From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 03:48:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD9FB97249 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 03:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D4D31BDD for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 03:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=I+gKDICgDRhqt77BjSCpFwJOSlXsfqktDKtFb2IDg9A=; b=Y+ryll2/60ppyLXnY51rBX4Pbs yXrcF77s8jefnCYs1L7FzNrp2s9IX9nChWjgxWpGEwrNBo4liI045e8N9GxFxo54oJdy2UXexJSwZ XozWldyfJmOY0Ef9eRP7hOLD0+FfOI55S8D4f3v5NP8Wc7ZK9m0+s0G3hpTNFqhDeSfo=; Received: from [114.120.239.210] (port=45028 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bOcR0-002JeP-3f; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:08:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:07:56 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Yubin Ruan Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level Message-ID: <20160717110756.27e3d480@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <578AC4E9.7080108@gmail.com> References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <578AC4E9.7080108@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 03:48:14 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 07:36:09 +0800 Yubin Ruan wrote: > On 2016=E5=B9=B407=E6=9C=8817=E6=97=A5 06:25, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: =20 > >> Hello, > >> > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was > >> surprised to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > >> > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in > >> dev.cpu.x.temperature and fans run high (not able to get rpms). > >> > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite > >> low. > >> > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user > >> login in console. > >> > >> Do you have any clue? =20 > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > > =20 >=20 > How to check whether the powerd configuration is right ? >=20 you need something like powerd_enable=3D"YES" powerd_flags=3D"-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" # set CPU frequency in /etc/rc.conf Check the manual for the possible flags. This are settings which do not provide the best result on a typical desktop but are a good start.=20 Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 08:36:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B4B9917E; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ablacktshirt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C892E1E79; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ablacktshirt@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id fi15so51521289pac.1; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jOTONpUYcWwXyElIAXcyQBoE0fuiMddigw/VgWapjoU=; b=JPplEHHcJmoZITAC8anEa9/eOqRcoNBVZJLJIcvrtFwtHa9z/bf+BWf/qjVUck7rHU 9YitlMywTD3ozbSFX04nLEDuEAxM0IRs2YftkBnXrKNbUAcL8SvKDAkXYn3W2a1IXVJK ewqanivF7Tos/KiMLKtC16gIberpgHSsFU5wo/KCIJF1gfreqFDNIRaFNDMWNeStb0zs TQzSllEcXraA/i0rLIg2QcxxyN5j9rEKv22T/A2kA3K8t0DA0CP2GAX+oPYq8hGM7GBH bgr9uUuUHL7MQPPucW8zNTbcFhLSO1S/gx8P97VQzX0UTXqw+v2Xo/2MZSaIGoA8Iw5G 81kg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jOTONpUYcWwXyElIAXcyQBoE0fuiMddigw/VgWapjoU=; b=kkL27m6JYN/1iw971StMnJyNC5YU/DtWKqXkROabl9UnYmCIc4KXQ716sO3T7ExISN D2YyfNZH8w5ioSsZkjhaMEEy+XoWG96pmTDDKG+l3y9irFg3G4jjf79wzBqIkiZGfK3S f+igeCp1LfdNn4mNHRmppWKwAU4YRxKkQlcEdt/h/rFVh8G8SgmPi3jBRr7g3ZuW8f9t NCZx+GzYNqPmvnl9zcZX5KZL54GzzT74D/Ll5heMObFyPF+2S7w2EPYbTDNagyJOpCuo x7/WjuJRpCBNwYSs/qmg3YY757Yk3My/HamgP+2A7RpkcBPr+x7m9eTuVDc139eYRfb1 vTdg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLMfbWTWGh8YUnflR2jDz3voqL4xi+XWilTnVucI2El8JqJT5iH3IksXe4jkam5EA== X-Received: by 10.66.197.195 with SMTP id iw3mr33504089pac.82.1468744588077; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.108] ([110.64.91.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d5sm4485746pfa.44.2016.07.17.01.36.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Jul 2016 01:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org From: Yubin Ruan Message-ID: <578B4386.4080301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:36:22 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:36:29 -0000 On 2016年07月16日 21:58, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, Reference: >> From: Yubin Ruan >> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:56:01 +0800 > > Yubin Ruan wrote: >> Hi, >> I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the >> Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I >> try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that >> "Failed to execute login command" >> (Any idea why would that happen?) >> So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is >> suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? >> >> How can I switch back to the console to tune the system? > > (Ive never heard of Slim, but) general procedure: > From another net connected host: > rlogin / telnet / ssh yourhost > cd /var/log ; ls -ltr > ls -l xdm.log messages Xorg.0.log > + whatever logfile might be appropriate for your Slim > ps -laxww > kill some processes, watch if they restart > vi /etc/ttys > change eg > ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure > to > ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > maybe you are using ttyv0 for xdm > (I use ttyv1 to leave 0 for errors) > kill -HUP 1 > sometimes screen still wont come back, > if desperate then reboot > > PS I dropped cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > as this has nothing to do with that CPU, & freebsd.org list rules > say dont cross post more than 2 lists. > > Cheers, > Julian > Thanks, I just manage to install a proper desktop environment(Xfce) to use and it seems to work fine. However, still, I cannot manage to do tty-switching using ( didn't work either). Strangely, whenever I press , the whole desktop block. I don't know why, it just block everytime I press ( the _ stand for number 1...8) My /etc/ttys file looks like this: console none unknown off secure ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure . . (the same ) . ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm-nodaemon" xterm off secure #serial terminal ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure . . ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure #Dumb console dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure Any idea? Thanks, Ruan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 09:59:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB73B9B0B2 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1BE91AE8 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id w127so148072708vkh.2 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 02:59:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Cm1Es+gOfG5NzyQWGD1H+iHb1x11H1FHoK7BkoAa1o8=; b=QKXsN89KHfgucJORcPcyR3XH2VcgH5e2P8GODNE7KI61px75Hnm9WC8rOUeMO41UwD PcG9MTQE+b6krzdJ4qAGMv4AgCRsrddXPpgzJbr8QjVvCn++drzZZOWbm4unaAV4PpjF Q5iIzK6lFsq1gC2Cr/957A4MVuW73xjWR6UMQ9NtWrk4cLffevnPBsGY+Ds0qTI0BveE aM70Q59ktcdqPSye4v87utPUO6q8xGBRVt2qrtaDk5H2QFyqpgcWJ7ceZ2JzJg9A09Gg Th9b7RizZKEDFG2XOD5HWVgY5CzzFo73VWl4Apl/oGFjNNdXb2h1mTjprMUcZlCmT8Mr pNtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Cm1Es+gOfG5NzyQWGD1H+iHb1x11H1FHoK7BkoAa1o8=; b=bB6vRU5m3TWx976aJ2iVML+AmanHblfnGhR3wi4Znz7T3vTmYWEABraWX6CVy20zQr iTeyRP9Ld5u90UozdFDX7YQrhfXLM1FSe1U/Aqh6hj2ofCGXmld0+6+efaHfak/xWz7A p3rcwdcoQGympHwLv+BNf7evYG0Hc/mnlx10rmjMHUEj87PvVK6wUrZ7RV4Tk7TDSHUO QEFiWtGmBwbfnCtS85xvK2QJt8cj4oeZyLBVU2B4p1hjZoQl0TVpcgU00i8fTHSiuCj0 wdLkbUorKufZU6KVbHWCHI33I/NdCkAzCIFoNiI1QOFygONf7MHY4o5vpzWFyn4dW5SW 9ppA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIKvGExyNr+B+GkqWpb29OLHH1sqL6/RfG45o+/ZoPJt5DWMaqf3RD18aWbTPHHFsEI3HavNDfEHyMGqA== X-Received: by 10.159.55.206 with SMTP id q72mr12770866uaq.152.1468749573365; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 02:59:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.44.84 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 02:59:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David Demelier Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:59:35 -0000 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >> >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >> >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. >> >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in >> console. >> >> Do you have any clue? > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux and I got an average much lower (41C). By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux sensors is 55. I have no idea what's wrong. :( -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 10:38:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72C9B9C06A; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE54117B; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from smtp.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-76-188-217-142.neo.res.rr.com [76.188.217.142]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 47f9a499; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 06:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id dc5bef72 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 06:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1468751677.23217.10.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: How to change back to the console when stucked by the desktop environment From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Yubin Ruan , "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 06:34:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <578B4386.4080301@gmail.com> References: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> <578B4386.4080301@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:38:36 -0000 On Sun, 2016-07-17 at 16:36 +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > > Thanks, I just manage to install a proper desktop environment(Xfce) > to  > use and it seems to work fine. > However, still, I cannot manage to do tty-switching using Alt>  > ( didn't work either). Strangely, whenever I press  > , the whole desktop block. I don't know why, it just > block  > everytime I press ( the _ stand for number 1...8) > > My /etc/ttys file looks like this: > >      console     none                   unknown    off   secure >      ttyv0    "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"   xterm      on    secure >      . >      .          (the same ) >      . >      ttyv7    "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"   xterm      on    secure >      ttyv8    "/usr/local/bin/xdm-nodaemon"  xterm  off  secure > >      #serial terminal >      ttyu0    "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"   vt100   onifconsole secure >      . >      . >      ttyu3    "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"   vt100   onifconsole secure > >      #Dumb console >      dcons    "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"  vt100 off  secure > > Any idea? > > Thanks, > Ruan Maybe it could be KMS related? Try swithing the console driver from sc(4) to vt(4) by adding: kern.vty=vt to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting. Vt(4), also known as newcons is the UTF-8 and KMS friendly console driver. Vt(4) will be the console driver for 11.0 (r274085) but the older sc(4) is the default on 10.x. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 12:48:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBFFB9ABC2 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DB8B1F70 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u6HClkGP010763; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:47:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question To: Polytropon References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <947ab84e-f3a0-e8be-6555-a5f0a1f24f45@bananmonarki.se> <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <411dbfa0-580f-5817-543c-5077daa9d61a@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:47:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160716173613.956c8469.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:48:05 -0000 On 2016-07-16 17:36, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:21:31 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >> On 2016-07-13 21:55, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> I notice that whenever I start typing text into the serch-bar of >>> Firefox (on my FreeBSD 9.3R daily-driver desktop system) it suggests >>> completions for me, implying that Google has my identity pegged. I use >>> TOR when surfing & followed the advice of a thread a few weeks ago >>> about a FF setting to prevent those suggestions. I also have cron >>> delete cookies & other cruft from the .mozilla directory nightly. How >>> do they still have me ? TIA & have a good one. >>> >> Well the simple solution to that is turn of javascript. > Which renders 99% of "modern" web pages totally unusable > (as in "stop using that web page")... Not really. I only accept javascript from a select few, five at the moment. If the homepage is */completely/* broken i surf to some other page. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 12:49:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DB4B9AD10 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 620EC11D7 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6HCnpf3008655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 07:49:52 -0500 Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <2ab232fb-0476-a5be-a9ad-14b9c63adcef@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 07:55:21 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:49:54 -0000 On 07/17/16 05:05, David Demelier wrote: > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : >> On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised >>> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >>> >>> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and >>> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >>> >>> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. >>> >>> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in >>> console. >>> >>> Do you have any clue? >> Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system >> is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have >> an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. >> > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux > and I got an average much lower (41C). > > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux > sensors is 55. > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( > I have had issues w/ FreeBSD apparently not reporting accurate temps on this box, AMD jaguar desktop, FreeBSD 9.3R. YMMV & all that rot .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 15:46:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E18BB9C87B for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF7AB196A for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u6HFiQGN071168; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:44:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <2ab232fb-0476-a5be-a9ad-14b9c63adcef@hiwaay.net> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <899e0044-6016-4b47-aade-5d701766c0e0@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:44:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ab232fb-0476-a5be-a9ad-14b9c63adcef@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:46:42 -0000 On 17/07/2016 13:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 07/17/16 05:05, David Demelier wrote: >> 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : >>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was >>>> surprised >>>> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >>>> >>>> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature >>>> and >>>> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >>>> >>>> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. >>>> >>>> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user >>>> login in >>>> console. >>>> >>>> Do you have any clue? >>> Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system >>> is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have >>> an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. >>> >> Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as >> suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little >> effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux >> and I got an average much lower (41C). >> >> By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than >> Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C >> almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux >> sensors is 55. >> >> I have no idea what's wrong. :( >> > > I have had issues w/ FreeBSD apparently not reporting accurate temps on > this box, AMD jaguar desktop, FreeBSD 9.3R. YMMV & all that rot .... > Ditto. This is a small and old Atom based Zotac system running 10.2: root@zotac:0# sysctl dev.cpu|grep temperature dev.cpu.3.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.2.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 27.0C dev.cpu.0.temperature: 27.0C The digital thermometer right next to it is reporting 33.9C in my office (we're having a hot spell by our standards). There's no way the CPU can be colder than the ambient temperature. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point. 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[184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 39sm7214159iop.25.2016.07.17.08.58.12 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:58:18 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OpenVPN with xp & win7 clients Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:58:14 -0000 Hello List; I travel outside of my home country a lot and can not access some web site content because internet connection is from foreign ip address range. I see many how-tos for installing and configuration VPN on a FreeBSD host. But all most all of these how-tos assume the client will be a FreeBSD box also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, win xp & win7. The official OpenVPN website does offer clients for xp & win7 but configuration info is not available. Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it assumes server and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on setting up IPsec/VPN on xp & win7. I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into watching tv programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will IPsec/VPN inject longer hesitations? Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming and then have the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the program file to my laptop for viewing? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 17 17:41:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FD9B9C0C5 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341241831 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 335F9B9C0C4; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3300FB9C0C3 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4535182F for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id f126so79080785wma.1 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wAcatERU6mEKRZz+aGK+/7dfaX7YU6PzjUulnioJklA=; b=mUf4k4f6A2tAob+1CGLM889f6PQeA0zjNAjqfGHcotM4S/FCHoeajjtXUM2lVDh6hW /vdoVJuhuCQzRmCaZCbuhCrohZPyQz9LFOcwUSGNr1Fhe+6rzG9EDRoJL4tJb0pppzgW gRpxlmSBm/GejT5dXmjC0U+HH7G6UpK+iSIkOPdsN4xq01LloAyA71B1T7cEAdtBrDYh bBNqFfGG7FnDKlCklLTkbQ9jg+1vj5pnMKcCYoTcP3x2sNeFEtxBlvSlwQXFcrAQP4ff ARN+YRoiUaRqO5wPMyQ9heZg4YyB6D14ltzLIfd4hMXqX2qKTAyXj+/eaaD2/W2wyDWK ixqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wAcatERU6mEKRZz+aGK+/7dfaX7YU6PzjUulnioJklA=; b=I95tsRzHfUWaOeeJYiq72pDTdFxeEhkTqYOkTZDNMN0OLed98nLYmK7HHoanpg6TGU QQpalXgu6fvk/dptEOjurFWCY/J8h7ndbZICfVSSL3cMEjjnk3uwFw6vhAH4W0Kdcc+G UeBH/GXhFIwV0Xd0B9Z9U4dhaoVA2YBt/bKNYy2AUA+zRl3Dqr+p4dKc9PhbtKwb/UVb 0xED3IiL7rpX1pYYKIQ+RzpQriacuoRq/D0JXuNzXXTyU1NYDTfsG7F3og1i6oepTGRB ChMftb3VpU1obJK91VP4kO8qIV+3Gooa0D9LNrrs+eCuDlQfmgGO59F7vfOkGlBd/ZWe Hy/A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJFuKPX4gJc41FjPly9nZDGaQwvcbF4bpJInVBQX8KM+GbIVZ7Isgz9gl+ukzy1ix1Io0QUW88jG2R/0A== X-Received: by 10.28.30.83 with SMTP id e80mr30867068wme.97.1468777301844; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.162.137 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:41:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> References: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:41:02 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenVPN with xp & win7 clients To: Ernie Luzar Cc: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:41:44 -0000 On 17 July 2016 at 18:58, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello List; > > I travel outside of my home country a lot and can not access some web site > content because internet connection is from foreign ip address range. > > I see many how-tos for installing and configuration VPN on a FreeBSD host. > But all most all of these how-tos assume the client will be a FreeBSD box > also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, win xp & win7. The > official OpenVPN website does offer clients for xp & win7 but configuration > info is not available. > > Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. > For Windows client, use the following: http://download.securepoint.de/?d=Securepoint%20SSL%20VPN%20Client/v1.0.3 > > The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it assumes server > and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on setting up IPsec/VPN on > xp & win7. > For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/ > > I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into watching tv > programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will IPsec/VPN > inject longer hesitations? > I cannot tell about the latencies (I guess that is what you call hesitation :-)) because I haven't tried it. > > Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming and then have > the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the program file to my > laptop for viewing? > That is beyond the scope of FreeBSD questions I guess :-) But maybe someone has done it and will give you their story. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." 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[184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e63sm3410438ith.0.2016.07.17.13.18.10 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <578BE812.9000601@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:18:26 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington CC: questions Subject: Re: OpenVPN with xp & win7 clients References: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:18:12 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > On 17 July 2016 at 18:58, Ernie Luzar > wrote: > > Hello List; > > I travel outside of my home country a lot and can not access some > web site content because internet connection is from foreign ip > address range. > > I see many how-tos for installing and configuration VPN on a FreeBSD > host. But all most all of these how-tos assume the client will be a > FreeBSD box also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, win xp > & win7. The official OpenVPN website does offer clients for xp & > win7 but configuration info is not available. > > Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. > > > > For Windows client, use the > following: http://download.securepoint.de/?d=Securepoint%20SSL%20VPN%20Client/v1.0.3 > > > > > The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it assumes > server and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on setting > up IPsec/VPN on xp & win7. > > > For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: > http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/ > > > > I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into watching > tv programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will > IPsec/VPN inject longer hesitations? > > > I cannot tell about the latencies (I guess that is what you call > hesitation :-)) because I haven't tried it. > > > > Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming and then > have the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the program > file to my laptop for viewing? > > > That is beyond the scope of FreeBSD questions I guess :-) > But maybe someone has done it and will give you their story. > > " For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/" That link content is out-dated. The openvpn port/pkg does not include the easy-rsa scripts build-ca, build-key-server, build-key, build-dh that are described in that how-too. The certificates are the backbone of security for VPN and without correct documentation that how-to is useless. To make things even worse, the easy-rsa port is lacking a manual page. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 00:22:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAFEB9C732 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94A34167E for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-209-65.knology.net [216.186.209.65] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u6I0MYT0019435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:22:35 -0500 Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160717002508.591a61ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <2ab232fb-0476-a5be-a9ad-14b9c63adcef@hiwaay.net> <899e0044-6016-4b47-aade-5d701766c0e0@qeng-ho.org> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <074ac533-6e95-49ba-76a1-980142615561@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:28:04 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <899e0044-6016-4b47-aade-5d701766c0e0@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:22:42 -0000 On 07/17/16 10:50, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 17/07/2016 13:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 07/17/16 05:05, David Demelier wrote: >>> 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : >>>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was >>>>> surprised >>>>> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. >>>>> >>>>> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature >>>>> and >>>>> fans run high (not able to get rpms). >>>>> >>>>> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. >>>>> >>>>> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user >>>>> login in >>>>> console. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have any clue? >>>> Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system >>>> is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have >>>> an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. >>>> >>> Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as >>> suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little >>> effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux >>> and I got an average much lower (41C). >>> >>> By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than >>> Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C >>> almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux >>> sensors is 55. >>> >>> I have no idea what's wrong. :( >>> >> I have had issues w/ FreeBSD apparently not reporting accurate temps on >> this box, AMD jaguar desktop, FreeBSD 9.3R. YMMV & all that rot .... >> > Ditto. This is a small and old Atom based Zotac system running 10.2: > > root@zotac:0# sysctl dev.cpu|grep temperature > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 24.0C > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 24.0C > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 27.0C > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 27.0C > > The digital thermometer right next to it is reporting 33.9C in my office > (we're having a hot spell by our standards). There's no way the CPU can > be colder than the ambient temperature. > > > Word dat, my observations exactly .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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But all most all of these how-tos assume the client will be a >> FreeBSD box also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, win xp >> & win7. The official OpenVPN website does offer clients for xp & >> win7 but configuration info is not available. >> >> Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. >> >> >> >> For Windows client, use the following: >> http://download.securepoint.de/?d=Securepoint%20SSL%20VPN%20Client/v1.0.3 >> >> >> >> The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it assumes >> server and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on setting >> up IPsec/VPN on xp & win7. >> >> >> For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: >> http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/ >> >> >> I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into watching >> tv programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will >> IPsec/VPN inject longer hesitations? >> >> >> I cannot tell about the latencies (I guess that is what you call >> hesitation :-)) because I haven't tried it. >> >> >> Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming and then >> have the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the program >> file to my laptop for viewing? >> >> >> That is beyond the scope of FreeBSD questions I guess :-) >> But maybe someone has done it and will give you their story. >> >> >> > > " For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: > http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/" > > That link content is out-dated. The openvpn port/pkg does not include the > easy-rsa scripts build-ca, build-key-server, build-key, build-dh that are > described in that how-too. The certificates are the backbone of security > for VPN and without correct documentation that how-to is useless. To make > things even worse, the easy-rsa port is lacking a manual page. > > That link is very comprehensive, but also if you applied a little common sense, you'd realize that you can install easy-rsa either using the pkg or ports. That's what I did and things work so well. root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # locate easy-rsa /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/Makefile /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/distinfo /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files/easyrsa.in /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-descr /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-plist /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2 /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/Makefile /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/distinfo /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-descr /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-plist root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # pkg search -x easy-rsa easy-rsa-3.0.1_1 Small RSA key management package based on openssl easy-rsa2-2.2.2 Small RSA key management package based on openssl root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # I used that link and it works wonders. I have users roaming everywhere. All I have to do is generate client certs for them, download it to their PCs, install the VPN client, configure it (change tun to tap, enable lzo, disable prompting for username/password) and voila! Well, just search around for other HOWTOs. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 14:05:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24E6B9D71B for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF2F218CA for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u6IDfPlv045335; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:41:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:41:25 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: David Demelier cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:05:14 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 632, Issue 8, Message: 21 On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 David Demelier wrote: > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised > >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > >> > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and > >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). > >> > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. > >> > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in > >> console. > >> > >> Do you have any clue? > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux > and I got an average much lower (41C). We really need to see what speed the CPU is running at when idle. I think the fans running high - presumably from the sound and airflow? - rules out the sort of sensor errors Arthur reported (ie below ambient :) and I assume the box actually feels warmer .. 57C suggests a busy CPU or two .. but then it is summer there; what background ambient temp. range? > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux > sensors is 55. > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( Normally I'd suggest posting this to freebsd-mobile@ as it's not been such an uncommon issue, especially with some makes/models, but you could try showing these to see if anyone spots something strange: % sysctl hw.acpi % sysctl debug.acpi % sysctl dev.est # assuming intel? if not, maybe dev.hwpstate? % sysctl dev.cpu # best while idle, maybe plus when busier A small script you can run at times showing a few useful sysctls related to CPU speed, load, states, and relevant temperatures can be handy. Here: smithi@x200:/var/log % x200stat Mon Jul 18 23:10:33 AEST 2016 dev.cpu.0.freq: 800 0.00% 0.61% 99.38% last 321us { 0.01 0.01 0.00 } 0.00% 0.94% 99.04% last 277us { HPET one-shot } dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 44 43 -1 44 34 -1 32 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 44.0C tz1: 42.0C dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0 _speed: 3354 high capacity: 97% time: unknown rate: 0 mW voltage: 12394 mV but dev.cpu.0.freq, load averages and relevant TZ temps are the main thing for watching what powerd is doing under different sort of loads. The above, less longwinded parsing of acpiconf -i0 for battery data, is: #!/bin/sh # x200stat smithi freebsd 9+ 2 CPUs # last polished 7/12/15 SN="sysctl -n"; t=' ' # a tab # backtick haters need not apply [ `$SN kern.eventtimer.periodic` -eq 1 ] && p=periodic || p=one-shot echo -n "`date` "; sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq echo "`$SN dev.cpu.0.cx_usage`${t}`$SN vm.loadavg`" echo "`$SN dev.cpu.1.cx_usage`${t}{ `$SN kern.eventtimer.timer` $p }" sysctl dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal echo -n "`sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature`" echo "${t}tz1: `$SN hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature`" echo -n "`sysctl dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level`" echo "${t}_speed: `$SN dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed`" [..] cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 14:55:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D337B9D35D for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu [IPv6:2a02:2770:15:0:21a:4aff:feaa:e902]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A27018B2 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5487385515; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:55:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:55:38 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out Message-ID: <20160718145538.GD2783@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:55:42 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline When I try to mount a NFS share of my provider with mount -t nfs -o tcp,nfsv3,nolockd my.provider.tld:/the/shared/directory /mnt/mountpoint the share won't mount. Instead I get the following error after a while: [tcp] stor2.tilaa.nl:/stor2/clients/15337/1: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out My provider requests to use nfsv3 and nolockd that's why I define these options. In /etc/rc.conf I have rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" And I started both with service rpcbind start service nfsclient start The funny thing is that I can telnet to both 111 and 2049 without any problems. In addition there are no relevant outgoing/incoming packages being blocked in pflog0. `rpcinfo -p my.provider.tld` gives program vers proto port service 100000 4 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 local 111 rpcbind 100000 3 local 111 rpcbind 100000 2 local 111 rpcbind 100005 1 udp 839 mountd 100005 3 udp 839 mountd 100005 1 tcp 839 mountd 100005 3 tcp 839 mountd 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs However `showmount -e my.provider.tld` gives RPC: Port mapper failure showmount: can't do mountdump rpc after a while. This seems really strange to me because I have no problems to reach the server via telnet. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? Any help is very much appreciated. 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Stacey" References: <201607161358.u6GDwTi1040789@fire.js.berklix.net> <578B4386.4080301@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anthony Jenkins Message-ID: <578CF42C.5000604@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:22:20 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <578B4386.4080301@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:22:28 -0000 On 07/17/2016 04:36 AM, Yubin Ruan wrote: > On 2016年07月16日 21:58, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> Hi, Reference: >>> From: Yubin Ruan >>> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:56:01 +0800 >> >> Yubin Ruan wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I just tried FreeBSD-10.3 stable and get stuck when trying to use the >>> Mate desktop environment. I use Slim as the login manager. But when I >>> try to login, with correct username and passwd, Slim tell me that >>> "Failed to execute login command" >>> (Any idea why would that happen?) >>> So I try to switch back to the console use "Alt-F1...Alt-F8", which is >>> suggested by the doc. But that doesn't work. Why ? >>> >>> How can I switch back to the console to tune the system? >> >> (Ive never heard of Slim, but) general procedure: >> From another net connected host: >> rlogin / telnet / ssh yourhost >> cd /var/log ; ls -ltr >> ls -l xdm.log messages Xorg.0.log >> + whatever logfile might be appropriate for your Slim >> ps -laxww >> kill some processes, watch if they restart >> vi /etc/ttys >> change eg >> ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" >> xterm on secure >> to >> ttyv1 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" >> xterm off secure >> maybe you are using ttyv0 for xdm >> (I use ttyv1 to leave 0 for errors) >> kill -HUP 1 >> sometimes screen still wont come back, >> if desperate then reboot >> >> PS I dropped cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org >> as this has nothing to do with that CPU, & freebsd.org list rules >> say dont cross post more than 2 lists. >> >> Cheers, >> Julian >> > > Thanks, I just manage to install a proper desktop environment(Xfce) to > use and it seems to work fine. > However, still, I cannot manage to do tty-switching using > ( didn't work either). Strangely, whenever I > press , the whole desktop block. I don't know why, it > just block everytime I press ( the _ stand for number > 1...8) > > My /etc/ttys file looks like this: > > console none unknown off secure > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > . > . (the same ) > . > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm on secure > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm-nodaemon" xterm off secure > > #serial terminal > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > . > . > ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > #Dumb console > dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure > > Any idea? > > Thanks, > Ruan If this is a laptop, remember some laptops require you to press an key to send the - keycodes (this is often configurable in the BIOS). So to issue the ++ key sequence, you actually have to press +++. -- Anthony Jenkins From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 16:34:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AA9B9C41E for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trainings@forumis.org) Received: from lwandile.forumis.net (lwandile.forumis.net [41.169.88.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0703E1C3E for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trainings@forumis.org) Received: from lwandile.forumis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lwandile.forumis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CB8C3C9721 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:32:38 +0200 (SAST) Authentication-Results: lwandile.forumis.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=forumis.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=forumis.org; h= message-id:date:date:x-mailer:content-type:content-type:subject :subject:to:reply-to:from:from:mime-version; s=dkim; t= 1468859556; x=1469723557; bh=/0KQGibs6bsaa8HZX696F9qvT2p+fCxtVlf ILLCKlRo=; b=TKAaeaNHlkhv8uxotx3vEeD/ZSoo0zpmXKyQ1Cat7qXuTyAOkU6 3Dt+pXzSwsXdbKmbriMqMms1ziNgnY4QHmpOWfagUShWSygSD3Be4hO0Cz3vZMua Wredi4ZzDu9bhWIvhiABupjnbeJOelKz+bFreQKMELZiq2L4ZKH9fPRU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lwandile.forumis.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.526 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.526 tagged_above=2 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.365, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=2.43, RAZOR2_CHECK=1.729] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from lwandile.forumis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by lwandile.forumis.net (lwandile.forumis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bX2f-W5y40pm for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:32:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: from service.acaeglobal.co.za (unknown [41.169.88.110]) by lwandile.forumis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B30D9C3C972C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:32:36 +0200 (SAST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Jabulisile Gumede" Reply-To: lombwa@forumis.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Workshop Invitation to the Planning, Monitoring and Evaluating for Development Results X-Mailer: Smart_Send_3_1_6 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:33:59 +0200 Message-ID: <1204328847521662231733@testadminpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:34:05 -0000 Thank you for accepting this workshop invitation. You may please unsubscribe here if you no longer wish to receive our emails From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 20:27:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728BEB9DFCB for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6491651 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5A5B0B9DFCA; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A026B9DFC9 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:3d::42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8CD1650 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (danm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6IKRQ10080454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id u6IKRPmL080453; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:27:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Way to have portsnap follow the same ports tree PKG uses? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:27:27 -0000 Hey all, There's some disconnect between the ports tree and pkg-ng -- there's no good, easy way to say "I want to build this port with some custom options, but I want all the dependencies installed via pkg. (You can get run-time dependencies by installing it and removing it, then building your port -- but this still doesn't help build-time dependencies, which usually result in a string of "crap, crap, ctrl-c, pkg-install [build dependency], rinse repeat" That said, since recent versions of FreeBSD started following the quarterly build cycles, it means that if you build a port against whatever portstap pulls in, it can potentially require newer versions of libraries than what you sanely have installed. My question is: is there a way to have portsnap pull down the same "quarterly" that the pkg tree is being built against? And if so, can it be made the default? -Dan -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 20:53:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FFBB9B9AC for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F24194D for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7E63DB9B9AB; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC2EB9B9A9 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22b.google.com (mail-it0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3535E194C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f6so1920233ith.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EpCl4YILJkfsFva5ghux6iluT0ehAeC8kmVuoa4irGQ=; b=N5PoRbXN4hUnr+Us4Rzmu+5b2d6ceYMSmxZYOQYZVe2GMKWLK9avp3eKpzmWxvzOBg 50+r3CVvYFVw/8aPqbJLdLuHuPs0m2dROv8RUgwxgFgwNPJ5jH+Bv1nbqpRp3OimEE2O CapW54EQcpd2WQmnfLEuCTIWPynfFNfipwBKHgVSh4xEbJDhF504ctyQdxagb/KFDawK 5S6XHUsls7VYaPJ/99Q+WHBJKHG/76cHByJvKPWCYPthg90vLR53MFZnBVVu/f7lKXrJ Bcj+kZKYhu6AZdaDKNw0Ii5vcyJkgr+vtkWZRES1RsdMj9xiPFPfyjyh5MPihpSzcR6Z rTZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EpCl4YILJkfsFva5ghux6iluT0ehAeC8kmVuoa4irGQ=; b=UMR+rY8UwYSqq8bF+1Mmw64umXptXCh9gyWABoz9+Gycc4wkp6Z3/CkN8xEUp+l0yh iy2pp6HHWD795499faQBboOdaHUtpRNsTFrNiXpm3ZbJhItnWKmQp/IVOPFfFBy6Nk8x DEz5IfMtTQo1WsVxwK/X78dgwPUyJ+vHzX8Xg+tJbyn1800zE6aJgGrdvyp9GEwtjVZX dBvuBvMaaj+W4xT0d9b1Xj4dbp7lmdIVQuXChNucAi6UuKHcXwnFMDuhx+CLPs94Ww4K 8XCp2Km/Z5ZYJP0Kvex5HBFfGU2TK6tU8Nnd3Nw2HRo5dApCDX9J20a77AjkWZ+WsiTl qujA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL1DBiUozKR1ruMgbt/mG+EUZslBGIbR9Wk37JsH7c3SGEgo1J3+eUuT7CNuQeOAQ== X-Received: by 10.36.10.196 with SMTP id 187mr366154itw.93.1468875192622; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-184-56-210-236.neo.res.rr.com. [184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m203sm9599939iom.21.2016.07.18.13.53.11 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <578D41BA.5070705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:53:14 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington CC: questions Subject: Re: OpenVPN with xp & win7 clients References: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> <578BE812.9000601@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:53:13 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > On 17 July 2016 at 23:18, Ernie Luzar > wrote: > > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > On 17 July 2016 at 18:58, Ernie Luzar >> wrote: > > Hello List; > > I travel outside of my home country a lot and can not access > some > web site content because internet connection is from foreign ip > address range. > > I see many how-tos for installing and configuration VPN on a > FreeBSD > host. But all most all of these how-tos assume the client > will be a > FreeBSD box also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, > win xp > & win7. The official OpenVPN website does offer clients for xp & > win7 but configuration info is not available. > > Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. > > > > For Windows client, use the following: > http://download.securepoint.de/?d=Securepoint%20SSL%20VPN%20Client/v1.0.3 > > > > The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it > assumes > server and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on > setting > up IPsec/VPN on xp & win7. > > > For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: > http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/ > > > I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into > watching > tv programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will > IPsec/VPN inject longer hesitations? > > > I cannot tell about the latencies (I guess that is what you call > hesitation :-)) because I haven't tried it. > > > Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming > and then > have the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the > program > file to my laptop for viewing? > > > That is beyond the scope of FreeBSD questions I guess :-) > But maybe someone has done it and will give you their story. > > > > > " For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: > http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/" > > That link content is out-dated. The openvpn port/pkg does not > include the easy-rsa scripts build-ca, build-key-server, build-key, > build-dh that are described in that how-too. The certificates are > the backbone of security for VPN and without correct documentation > that how-to is useless. To make things even worse, the easy-rsa port > is lacking a manual page. > > > That link is very comprehensive, but also if you applied a little common > sense, you'd realize that you can install easy-rsa either using the pkg > or ports. That's what I did and things work so well. > > root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # locate easy-rsa > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/Makefile > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/distinfo > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files/easyrsa.in > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-descr > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-plist > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2 > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/Makefile > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/distinfo > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-descr > /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-plist > root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # pkg search -x easy-rsa > easy-rsa-3.0.1_1 Small RSA key management package based on > openssl > easy-rsa2-2.2.2 Small RSA key management package based on > openssl > root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # > > I used that link and it works wonders. I have users roaming everywhere. > All I have to do is generate client certs for them, download it to their > PCs, install the VPN client, configure it (change tun to tap, enable > lzo, disable prompting for username/password) and voila! > > Well, just search around for other HOWTOs. > > Thanks for the details. I see the problem now. That how-to is based on easy-rsa2-2.2.2 which was installed as part of a older version of the openvpn port. The current version of openvpn port installs easy-rsa-3.0.1_1 which is way different than easy-rsa2-2.2.2 which makes that openvpn install how-to out dated. Another difference is the version of openvpn installed by the current openvpn port is different than the openvpn version installed with the easy-rsa2-2.2.2 version of the port. Openvpn-2.3.11 now at start time wants "Enter Private key password". Need to find a way to stop this prompt so openvpn will start at boot time without human intervention. 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:14:35 -0000 On Fri, July 15, 2016 12:49, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > I apologize for derailing this conversation. Privacy on the web is a > worthwhile concern, but I've grown tired of the overwrought paranoia > that accompanies that concern. To most of the world, including the > people you meet every day, you are not Ralph Madorf. You are not > William A. Maheffey III. You are a faceless number nobody cares > about, . . . Today. But maybe tomorrow some entity may come to view you as a threat. 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[63.231.158.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h67sm2496003ioe.40.2016.07.18.16.16.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:16:22 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: "Dan Mahoney\, System Admin" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Way to have portsnap follow the same ports tree PKG uses? In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:16:21 -0500 Message-ID: <86oa5u4jwa.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:16:25 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin writes: > Hey all, > > There's some disconnect between the ports tree and pkg-ng -- there's no > good, easy way to say "I want to build this port with some custom options, > but I want all the dependencies installed via pkg. (You can get run-time > dependencies by installing it and removing it, then building your port -- > but this still doesn't help build-time dependencies, which usually result > in a string of "crap, crap, ctrl-c, pkg-install [build dependency], rinse > repeat" > > That said, since recent versions of FreeBSD started following the > quarterly build cycles, it means that if you build a port against whatever > portstap pulls in, it can potentially require newer versions of libraries > than what you sanely have installed. > > My question is: is there a way to have portsnap pull down the same > "quarterly" that the pkg tree is being built against? And if so, can it > be made the default? portsnap can only fetch from the HEAD of the ports tree Subversion repo. You need to use Subversion to actually fetch the quarterly branch. The alternative is to change the package repository from "quarterly" to "latest," as per the instructions found at the top of /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf. The former will give you all quarterly packages and ports; the latter, all rolling-release packages and ports. You may also be interested in ports-mgmt/synth, which is capable of mixing packages and ports while avoiding conflicts. You can configure it to fetch packages when possible (that is, when custom port options don't conflict with default package options), including build dependencies. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 00:21:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691DEB9DB20 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815A1BA0 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 57637B9DB1F; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5705CB9DB1E for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from host203.r-bonomi.com (host203.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DA21B9F for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by host203.r-bonomi.com (8.14.9/8.14.7) id u6INl6lj099086 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:47:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bonomi) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:47:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201607182347.u6INl6lj099086@host203.r-bonomi.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems upgrading O/S and hardware on HP XW4400 workstation. In-Reply-To: <201607142223.u6EMNoPq016357@host203.r-bonomi.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:21:17 -0000 > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:23:50 -0500 (CDT) > From: Robert Bonomi > Subject: problems upgrading O/S and hardware on HP XW4400 workstation. > Solved. At least on this platform, if one lets the 3ware crd install it's own BIOS (ostensablably to be able to boot off a drive attechted to the 9650) The machine locks up. Disabled the 3ware bios installation, and the system boots, and can see all the disks. > > Have this HP XW4400 workstation, currently running FreeBSD 8.4 (Dual boot with > Windows XP-PRO). Has 8 gigs ram, 3 SATA HDD (1.4TB, 160gb, 80gb), and a SATA > DVD-RW (DL). FreeBSD on the 1.4TB disk, WinXP on the 160G disk, twiddle the > boot device order in ROM BIOS to select which disk to boot from. > > I am running a custom FreeBSD 8.4 kernel, with all the 'un-necessary' stuff > stripped out -- added the 'twa' driver to my previously 'happily running' > kernel when I put the 3ware card in -- with no drives attached to the card, > I do get the 'twa' device created. > > Attempting to move up to FreeBSD 10.3, and add 3 more SATA disks and 2 more > SATA DVD drives -- adding a 3ware 9650SE-12ML sata card for ll the extra > devices. > > Running into all sorts of weird problems (It seems I have a talent for -that-) > first off, NEITHER FreeBSD/i386 8.4 on the disk, nor FreeBSD/amd 10.3 on > distribution DVD (the proverbial 'DVD1') will boot fully if there are any > hard disks attached to the 3ware controller. Both _start_ to boot, and then > die (I don't even get a crash-dump to dissect ). FreeBSD 8 gives me > the inital boot menu, and when I hit F1 for the primary boot partition, I get > one '-' on the screen, and then a total freeze-up. power-cycle required. The > FreeBSD 10.3 DVD gives me the 'BTX loader' chatter and starts listing the > "BIOS" devices. lists the CD as 'cd0', and the floppy as 'disk0'. then it > totally freezes. power-cycle required. Without anything attached to the > 9650, 10.3 continues to announce the additional drives/slices as 'disk1' > through 'disk4' (the 1.4 TB drive -- ada0-- has 2 slices on it, both with > BSD partition tables on each slice -- 'slice1' is 32gb, and has partitions > a, b, d, e, f, g, and h on it. 'slice2' is 1.3tb+, and has partitions d and h > n it.) > > Booting from the 10.3 dvd with nothing on the 3ware card, I get /dev entries > for 'ada0', 'ada0s1'i (but no 'inferior' partitions on it), 'ada0s2', > 'ada0s2d', and 'ada0s2h', 'ada1', and 'ada1s1' (the Windows drive, as > expected), and 'ada2', 'ada2s1', 'ada2s2', 'ada2s3' which represent 2 FAT32 > partitions, and a 'Windows recovery' partition' on the 3rd (80-gig) drive. > Apparently the 10.3 boot loader doesn't see the partition table on 'ada0s1'. > HoWEver, if I use the 'live CD' on DVD1, and run bsdlabel on ada0s1, _it_ > shows me the "expected" partition info. > > None of this makes any sense to me. > > The 3ware controller _is_ 'known good' -- booting Windows works just fine > with the add-on driver for that 3ware card. And it sees all the disks attached > to the 9650 just fine. > > Has anybody got any ideas, suggestions, etc. about whats going on, how to > diagnose/troubleshoot/fix, or a better place to ask these questions? "Help" > says me, groveling. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 09:00:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F48B9D347 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EAA1AD7 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5CAF8B9D345; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C489B9D344 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC6C1AD5 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id f65so131752817wmi.0 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:00:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dO4XOc8fJ22ODbiBOzsrrTjKB+VQixyPI1NG/GKyAfA=; b=j949VIC3GD47Axx5ExRsBNLauPOWmSn2zbM0hpkb2J5B4Xgl4BsshiIv3i75gpT+r1 wxgY1seTPIFDfnOB6By04J+ju+USrYEAVXl1U4QUYxdXb4f0BaSE+1DTH57CvhQSHJ6A ndHchI75Wzu8i6f4MBV9E5w6ySl2FKhb/cBe5JgPFNqUyJrPe8j/fO9zxEV8Ow4VIYC4 vu4jl6mM+n/+ce7VNr4bEtZwH465wcc64usM8BnvXWsa1YnatD3pLKMupeq4ZRVJBssO jqp5R2BGVlplW5Mto5VZfXYzQAb92ZfyJiql77GjJLRTniOtyKt4GxLTfUXZNPKrgjQO G1wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dO4XOc8fJ22ODbiBOzsrrTjKB+VQixyPI1NG/GKyAfA=; b=E4+BthPt+E1ZjrbEKXYrusopQOIjTJ3/N2byxpi6wbFqJio7UEWqz+iqmwwqigPvkU raW8uBV3g4aE4I5Hx2lMSvfoYYtABZMjHpAkpeLQmHDhZV5TLUzvijBh4ogS1yAesOmQ Ykky6sRduszXf9ib9U1slxnz13VzAHiA8CwHNm2hIAbYFPAnsgokS/diwkt+poAUtm2p sGRp24seqaudKrIv3OfIe09QwofEVO19X8MnMEo8yx06AgWN2xpJF0x4oX+bftBIu8Bo vAlrOe/RmFqpHxh47TAhGggClw7yWxyvNlhPND+ZmTvLkBEagR0Km1oadl/BtfCEKB6E JPdg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIiBHmINJnk9xzJ3fA7BC1OYS1un7KhLLNPJaWtkkBkQMua2GGxp2KUG3nPML0PoFgxu4hutUhXlYYvYQ== X-Received: by 10.28.30.83 with SMTP id e80mr2393566wme.97.1468918816448; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:00:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.162.137 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 01:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <578D41BA.5070705@gmail.com> References: <578BAB1A.2010109@gmail.com> <578BE812.9000601@gmail.com> <578D41BA.5070705@gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:59:36 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenVPN with xp & win7 clients To: Ernie Luzar Cc: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:00:18 -0000 Howtos can be outdated. No one is paid to maintain them. About the prompt for the "Enter Private key password", please review how you generated your certificates. Did you assign a passphrase? You don't need to! On 18 July 2016 at 23:53, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> >> >> On 17 July 2016 at 23:18, Ernie Luzar > luzar722@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Odhiambo Washington wrote: >> >> >> >> On 17 July 2016 at 18:58, Ernie Luzar > > >> >> wrote: >> >> Hello List; >> >> I travel outside of my home country a lot and can not access >> some >> web site content because internet connection is from foreign >> ip >> address range. >> >> I see many how-tos for installing and configuration VPN on a >> FreeBSD >> host. But all most all of these how-tos assume the client >> will be a >> FreeBSD box also. In my case I have 2 laptops I travel with, >> win xp >> & win7. The official OpenVPN website does offer clients for >> xp & >> win7 but configuration info is not available. >> >> Looking for how-to to setup VPN client on xp & win7. >> >> >> >> For Windows client, use the following: >> >> http://download.securepoint.de/?d=Securepoint%20SSL%20VPN%20Client/v1.0.3 >> >> >> The FreeBSD handbook has section on IPsec/VPN, but again it >> assumes >> server and client is a FreeBSD host. Looking for how-to on >> setting >> up IPsec/VPN on xp & win7. >> >> >> For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: >> >> http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/ >> >> I have 2 concerns. How much hesitation will VPN inject into >> watching >> tv programs or movies on my laptops in a foreign country? Will >> IPsec/VPN inject longer hesitations? >> >> >> I cannot tell about the latencies (I guess that is what you call >> hesitation :-)) because I haven't tried it. >> >> Can I use the remote VPN client to start the show streaming >> and then >> have the VPN host record the program? Later down loading the >> program >> file to my laptop for viewing? >> >> >> That is beyond the scope of FreeBSD questions I guess :-) >> But maybe someone has done it and will give you their story. >> >> >> >> >> " For setting up the server, use the following: Use this link: >> >> http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/install-configure-openvpn-freebsd-10-2/" >> >> That link content is out-dated. The openvpn port/pkg does not >> include the easy-rsa scripts build-ca, build-key-server, build-key, >> build-dh that are described in that how-too. The certificates are >> the backbone of security for VPN and without correct documentation >> that how-to is useless. To make things even worse, the easy-rsa port >> is lacking a manual page. >> >> >> That link is very comprehensive, but also if you applied a little common >> sense, you'd realize that you can install easy-rsa either using the pkg or >> ports. That's what I did and things work so well. >> >> root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # locate easy-rsa >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/Makefile >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/distinfo >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/files/easyrsa.in >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-descr >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa/pkg-plist >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2 >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/Makefile >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/distinfo >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-descr >> /usr/ports/security/easy-rsa2/pkg-plist >> root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # pkg search -x easy-rsa >> easy-rsa-3.0.1_1 Small RSA key management package based on >> openssl >> easy-rsa2-2.2.2 Small RSA key management package based on >> openssl >> root@waridi:/usr/local/etc/fail2ban # >> I used that link and it works wonders. I have users roaming everywhere. >> All I have to do is generate client certs for them, download it to their >> PCs, install the VPN client, configure it (change tun to tap, enable lzo, >> disable prompting for username/password) and voila! >> >> Well, just search around for other HOWTOs. >> >> >> > Thanks for the details. I see the problem now. That how-to is based on > easy-rsa2-2.2.2 which was installed as part of a older version of the > openvpn port. The current version of openvpn port installs easy-rsa-3.0.1_1 > which is way different than easy-rsa2-2.2.2 which makes that openvpn > install how-to out dated. > > Another difference is the version of openvpn installed by the current > openvpn port is different than the openvpn version installed with the > easy-rsa2-2.2.2 version of the port. > > Openvpn-2.3.11 now at start time wants "Enter Private key password". > Need to find a way to stop this prompt so openvpn will start at boot time > without human intervention. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." 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Hartmann" , freebsd-questions References: <20160627120315.36072692@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:55:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160627120315.36072692@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:55:14 -0000 https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/sendmail-cookbook/0596004710/ch03s03.html On 2016-06-27 12:03, O. Hartmann wrote: > We use a monitoring server (icinga2) based on FreeBSD embedded in a closed > network (no external access) with a M$ mailexchange server. > > I try to configure local sendmail in a way so that all email going to the > localhost are delivered to the local machine itself, but email for an external > email account is passed to the mail hub server. This mail hub server is > accessible by any host in the closed network without authentication (this is > given by a higher instance as a fact I can not change). > > I tried to figure out with the recent handbook but the explanation of how to > configure sendmail is really poor. Since I'm not that familiar with sendmail > itself anymore, I appreciate some startups here. > > As I understand the docs, the files > > hostname.localdomain.mc > > and > > hostname.localdomain.submit.mc > > are the only ones I need to touch, along with > > mailertable > > for the resolution of the target domain and the mail-hub server to contact. > > The target email domain would be foobar.bla, so I use an entry in mailertable > like > > foobar.bla esmtp:[IP4] (no MX record usage) > .foobar.bla esmtp:[IP4] > > There is no suitable access to a DNS for MX resolution (all Microsoft crap), so > I have an /etc/host entry for the mailhub server - or mail relaying server. But > nothing works so far. Checking the mail queue with mailq gives me always on all > outbound emails > > host map: lookup (foobar.bka): deferred > > What is wrong? > > Please CC me, I' do not subscribe this specific list. > > Thank you in advance, > > Oliver > > P.S. I ggoled for that specific error and got lots of how-tos but it seems that > none of them worked so far. I guess I miss something. I already did a > > make all install > > in /etc/mail after every change. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 14:19:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8C6B9EF47 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: from box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu [IPv6:2a02:2770:15:0:21a:4aff:feaa:e902]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0151B34 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdin@niklaas.eu) Received: by box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B56D385515; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:19:28 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out Message-ID: <20160719141928.GL2783@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160718145538.GD2783@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160718145538.GD2783@box-hlm-03.niklaas.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:19:39 -0000 --iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff [2016-07-18 16:55 +0200] : > This seems really strange to me because I have no problems to > reach the server via telnet. Does anyone have an idea what could > be causing this? Just to let you know: It was a problem on my provider's side. Works now. 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I would like to triple boot windows 10 + FreeBSD 10 + Linux everything installed on a single disk. Is it possible? If not with GPT, would it be better to fall back to compatibility mode and MBR partition scheme? Has anyone played with this? Thanks in advance. 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Message-Id: <4tyracmftyru.GO40PJh9EnUI01-FKwH_2A2@tracking.justriding.com> Reply-To: orders@justriding.com Sender: Just Riding X-Mailer: tracking.justriding.com X-Msg-EID: GO40PJh9EnUI01-FKwH_2A2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:24:35 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 21:31:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EA5B9EED9 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 644CC1A99 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id o80so42347238wme.1 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=gytmaOoDxHz3oKi6HGq9pf9ymMpNLfwWtzRYOYQws3I=; b=SMKLzvWlQTTC+RsI0wYamlee80fNiAAaWTbHfZ398hvpN1fbew/9VdZIC5T7KyHMpi 9Ga+lWWQ3XG8wvfla5THGoKTWXg6yEmtL0UDy1o8Su3xkrWOWD2TpuJ+icGGtfIfJM61 zrSmM2jVyQfDrQOyIbpPHjtL0KhJwhppmJDAMO4mXqKrxDpv+p/s8PALkLiMlQWQTmgk 13uOqe/aCPw/EsFX9IBD1ZoLkiq57ESDwMaCd7rzsi2aHgp9U3P2YxijUryA+r2406+7 xdliC/ruScre9mFBDhHYLnbbdad5vBlQQhD+cj+TrhJpJcvTzIpyNYD6IT5nI+2oa4aA 6f2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=gytmaOoDxHz3oKi6HGq9pf9ymMpNLfwWtzRYOYQws3I=; b=J/U3bfiPkToAyBWClIvfTNLWRES4CVBD9l0giw3m6Gvl5TztyHEc2iw4bXSEoccpjp nckiIJnMGZROPng0g4nFBSE9TTE+X4gcpTfr5kC0TcNh1leohguL+aG/OkV5bvOWBa7g meFlMLKMU+lAh6ifW8Sx4pdeZjn0f11ZOcKkNYQTuKQPsbevKdqLTEyY/2Fa5noxj9N7 AmgSOEmTjDIcbTtCVEEamZFXIapvAqiUAxtywch3YTioyDDnurDx2jEHQSwvMhFj82hi 0gvlL0IZqL5K2cGKeuFWNt7WK/nka7EZnBl+GSUxeM+JUpO7+NQPa5f+Z+AxtKABl6xM Lx1w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLEetbH3/NsPFvSYkNzFxE7vrVJZAdkue40V14kW1H6h9a7Zsnv3aO8n6bAB2w8Vhfma51I6AmYaXXePw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.207.197 with SMTP id f188mr6527792wmg.69.1468963878784; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.222.169 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:31:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EFI and GPT status From: Ben Woods To: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:31:20 -0000 On Tuesday, 19 July 2016, Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote: > Hi, > > What's the status of EFI and GPT support on FreeBSD? I would like to trip= le > boot windows 10 + FreeBSD 10 + Linux everything installed on a single dis= k. > Is it possible? > > If not with GPT, would it be better to fall back to compatibility mode an= d > MBR partition scheme? > > Has anyone played with this? > > Thanks in advance. > I dual boot my laptop with Windows and FreeBSD using a single hard drive. I find the easiest way is creating 2 new GPT partitions (1 for ZFS and 1 for swap). I then manually copy the FreeBSD EFI boot loader to my EFI partition, by mounting the existing EFI partition that comes with the laptop as msdosfs to /mnt, copying /boot/boot1.efi to /mnt/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi. Lastly, I install refind on my efi partition to allow me to select between the Windows EFI loader and the FreeBSD EFI loader at boot time. http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ Regards, Ben --=20 -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 02:34:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78EEB9FEDB for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A549A194C for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u6K2YtGZ038476 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:34:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u6K2YtVo038469; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:34:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:34:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Ben Woods cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= , User Questions Subject: Re: EFI and GPT status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:34:56 -0000 On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Ben Woods wrote: > On Tuesday, 19 July 2016, Fernando Apesteguía > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> What's the status of EFI and GPT support on FreeBSD? I would like to triple >> boot windows 10 + FreeBSD 10 + Linux everything installed on a single disk. >> Is it possible? >> >> If not with GPT, would it be better to fall back to compatibility mode and >> MBR partition scheme? >> >> Has anyone played with this? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> > > I dual boot my laptop with Windows and FreeBSD using a single hard drive. > > I find the easiest way is creating 2 new GPT partitions (1 for ZFS and 1 > for swap). I then manually copy the FreeBSD EFI boot loader to my EFI > partition, by mounting the existing EFI partition that comes with the > laptop as msdosfs to /mnt, copying /boot/boot1.efi to > /mnt/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi. > > Lastly, I install refind on my efi partition to allow me to select between > the Windows EFI loader and the FreeBSD EFI loader at boot time. > http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ I do a similar thing, but my UEFI Dell notebooks allow setting each EFI boot loader as a menu entry. So no additional software is needed. 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[193.248.44.112]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm4508833wmi.0.2016.07.20.03.46.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jul 2016 03:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level To: Ian Smith References: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Demelier Message-ID: <578F5688.8010207@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:46:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:46:37 -0000 Le 18/07/2016 15:41, Ian Smith a crit : > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 632, Issue 8, Message: 21 > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 David Demelier wrote: > > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised > > >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > > >> > > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and > > >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). > > >> > > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. > > >> > > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in > > >> console. > > >> > > >> Do you have any clue? > > > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > > > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as > > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little > > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux > > and I got an average much lower (41C). > > We really need to see what speed the CPU is running at when idle. > > I think the fans running high - presumably from the sound and airflow? - > rules out the sort of sensor errors Arthur reported (ie below ambient :) > and I assume the box actually feels warmer .. 57C suggests a busy CPU or > two .. but then it is summer there; what background ambient temp. range? We have air-conditioning at work so ambient temperature is normal, somewhat between 24-28. > > > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than > > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C > > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux > > sensors is 55. > > > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( > > Normally I'd suggest posting this to freebsd-mobile@ as it's not been > such an uncommon issue, especially with some makes/models, but you could > try showing these to see if anyone spots something strange: > > % sysctl hw.acpi > % sysctl debug.acpi > % sysctl dev.est # assuming intel? if not, maybe dev.hwpstate? > % sysctl dev.cpu # best while idle, maybe plus when busier > Thanks for your answer, here I posted the output of the sysctl variables you asked for: http://markand.fr/files/result.txt I've ran them on a FreeBSD memstick, I needed to install a Linux distro until I can find a solution because this drains my battery a lot. The average temperature was 50C, a bit less than the installed version on hard drive where I have seen higher values. This is interesting. I will double check if something else makes the CPU more busy. Regards, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 12:03:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AF7B9BDEC for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pipfstarrd@openmailbox.org) Received: from mail.openmailbox.org (mail.openmailbox.org [62.4.1.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C42B71D07 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pipfstarrd@openmailbox.org) Received: by mail.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 20002) id E29CD20125C; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:53:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1469015585; bh=Amf0YrF15pI+0W3vnlH8O1TKCoyxlF+IQ2ul+bGM4Lc=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=Wcwwdl6IqyGtVV3gAblZ0XJuDmTVLXkU7TsUFLG6zwv5NPC2WRta26JhDDCwKaGe2 3W7LamQLIJmbKfumvuVS6Y4BELHWvw5L0L8ZzqisRm1bH8yvnF2ELZOKsrdH4RiaJi Yu4KRkkmPVhroWMAYZU+VoB7eSKN7MqR7xetZFn0= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on h3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1469015585; bh=Amf0YrF15pI+0W3vnlH8O1TKCoyxlF+IQ2ul+bGM4Lc=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=Wcwwdl6IqyGtVV3gAblZ0XJuDmTVLXkU7TsUFLG6zwv5NPC2WRta26JhDDCwKaGe2 3W7LamQLIJmbKfumvuVS6Y4BELHWvw5L0L8ZzqisRm1bH8yvnF2ELZOKsrdH4RiaJi Yu4KRkkmPVhroWMAYZU+VoB7eSKN7MqR7xetZFn0= From: twilight Subject: Unable to mount with mount_smbfs while smbclient works fine Message-ID: <094cb9cb-79fc-ee1f-062d-a1153b5e7fc6@openmailbox.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:51:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:03:12 -0000 Hello guys! I'm trying to mount a samba share (actually a D-link sharecenter) in my local network to my freebsd machine. But for some reason mount_smbfs does nothing, exiting with status 1. Dmesg is empty on errors releated to mount. PF firewall lets out packages to local network, so it must not be the case. I've read the man twice, the isn't anything covering the possible errors. I'm confused, what should I do? Here are the pf rules: ~> sudo pfctl -s rules scrub in all fragment reassemble block return out all pass out quick on lo0 route-to lo1 inet proto tcp from any to 127.192.0.0/10 flags S/SA modulate state pass quick on lo0 all flags S/SA keep state pass quick on lo1 all flags S/SA keep state pass out quick inet proto tcp all user = 256 flags S/SA modulate state pass out quick route-to lo1 inet proto udp from any to any port = domain keep state pass out quick inet from any to 192.168.1.0/24 flags S/SA keep state pass out quick inet from any to 192.168.0.0/24 flags S/SA keep state pass out quick inet from any to 192.168.2.0/24 flags S/SA keep state pass out route-to lo1 inet proto tcp all flags S/SA modulate state twilight@equestria ~> sudo pfctl -s nat rdr pass on lo1 inet proto tcp all -> 127.0.0.1 port 9040 rdr pass on lo1 inet proto udp from any to any port = domain -> 127.0.0.1 port 53 Here's an example of how it looks: ~> smbclient //192.168.2.12/Volume_1 -U guest params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "/usr/local/etc/smb-client.conf": No such file or directory smbclient: Can't load /usr/local/etc/smb-client.conf - run testparm to debug it Enter guest's password: Failed to load upcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules Failed to load lowcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.15] smb: \> pwd Current directory is \\192.168.2.12\Volume_1\ smb:\> ⏎ ~> sudo mount_smbfs -I 192.168.2.12 //guest@192.168.2.12/Volume_1 /nmnt ~> echo $status 1 ~> mount zroot/ROOT/default on / (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) bootpool on /bootpool (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) zroot/tmp on /tmp (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/home on /usr/home (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/src on /usr/src (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/audit on /var/audit (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/crash on /var/crash (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/log on /var/log (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/mail on /var/mail (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/tmp on /var/tmp (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot on /zroot (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) map -hosts on /net (autofs) If any extra information is required, I can provide it by your requests. -- Cheers~ PGP key fingerprint: 07B3 2177 3E27 BF41 DC65 CC95 BDA8 88F1 E9F9 CEEF You can retrieve my public key at pgp.mit.edu. 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[193.248.44.112]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f3sm1002906wjt.30.2016.07.20.05.17.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A question about modifying autoboot delay time To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2016072011093115531210@chinadtrace.org> From: David Demelier Message-ID: <578F6BD2.4080408@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:17:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2016072011093115531210@chinadtrace.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:17:25 -0000 Le 20/07/2016 05:09, Nan Xiao a écrit : > Hi all, > > My FreeBSD is running on VMware virtual machine. I modify /boot/loader.conf file > to prolong autoboot delay time: > > # cat /boot/loader.conf > autoboot_delay="60" > > After rebooting, I find the prompt is still default value (10s), and the screen looks > like hung (The image is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NanXiao/FreeBSD-101-Hacks/master/images/boot_kernel.JPG). > But the actual delay time seems taking effect, about passing one minute, the system boots up. > > Is it a bug of running FreeBSD on VMware virtual machine? Could anyone help to explain it? Hmm, I can reproduce the same problem (on my machine) with less seconds, also happens here with a delay of 30. I think the loader was designed to have 10 as value to show at maximum? Regards, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 12:24:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE1CB9D6C6 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9D0618DE for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 917E327725; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:24:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6KCOM2q002636; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:24:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:24:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: twilight Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount with mount_smbfs while smbclient works fine Message-Id: <20160720142422.520d2d08.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <094cb9cb-79fc-ee1f-062d-a1153b5e7fc6@openmailbox.org> References: <094cb9cb-79fc-ee1f-062d-a1153b5e7fc6@openmailbox.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:24:33 -0000 On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:51:13 +0000, twilight wrote: > I'm trying to mount a samba share (actually a D-link sharecenter) in my > local network to my freebsd machine. But for some reason mount_smbfs > does nothing, exiting with status 1. Dmesg is empty on errors releated > to mount. PF firewall lets out packages to local network, so it must not > be the case. > > I've read the man twice, the isn't anything covering the possible > errors. I'm confused, what should I do? Allow me to provide some information refactored from a post I wrote 5 years ago - I'm not fully sure it still applies today, but it did work as intended. Even though I use mount + fstab, mount_smbfs is at the center of this approach. In order to use mount (mount_smbfs), provide the "login information" as needed in /etc/nsmb.conf (replace uppercase placeholders), for example: [default] workgroup=YOUR_WORKGROUP_NAME [SERVERNAME] addr=192.168.2.2 [SERVERNAME:USERNAME] password=TOPSECRET where SERVERNAME and USERNAME correspond to the server's name and the username you use to access the share (with the proper password). See "man nsmb.conf" for details. You could use a hostname instead of an IP, for example by adding an entry in /etc/hosts for the target. Parts of the above information should then be reflected in /etc/fstab, maybe like this: //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/share /smb/share smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 This should allow you to use # mount /smb/share a bit easier (and automatically, if desired). If the target exposes more than one share via "drive letters", you can use a similar approach in /etc/fstab: //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/a$ /smb/a smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/c$ /smb/c smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/d$ /smb/d smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/e$ /smb/e smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/f$ /smb/f smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 The "generic" mount command will then work as mentioned above. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 12:31:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFF0B9D9D5 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590511C7F for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-96-167.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.96.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 506042781E; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:31:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u6KCVRar002656; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:31:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:31:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Nan Xiao" Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: A question about modifying autoboot delay time Message-Id: <20160720143127.d93ff2ff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2016072011093115531210@chinadtrace.org> References: <2016072011093115531210@chinadtrace.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:30 -0000 On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:09:33 +0800, Nan Xiao wrote: > Hi all, > > My FreeBSD is running on VMware virtual machine. I modify /boot/loader.conf file > to prolong autoboot delay time: > > # cat /boot/loader.conf > autoboot_delay="60" > > After rebooting, I find the prompt is still default value (10s), and the > screen looks > like hung (The image is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NanXiao/FreeBSD-101-Hacks/master/images/boot_kernel.JPG). > But the actual delay time seems taking effect, about passing one minute, > the system boots up. > > Is it a bug of running FreeBSD on VMware virtual machine? Could anyone > help to explain it? Did you try the "simplified" boot screen? In /boot/loader.conf, define the following: autoboot_delay="60" beastie_disable="YES" Maybe it's just a "display thing" error related to the menu screen... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 13:20:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BEEB9E446 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A47A1580 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u6KDKBar046328; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:20:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:20:11 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: David Demelier cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: High CPU temperature and high fans level In-Reply-To: <578F5688.8010207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160720214809.M324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160718224548.T324@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <578F5688.8010207@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:20:35 -0000 On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:46:32 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > Le 18/07/2016 15:41, Ian Smith a crit : > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 632, Issue 8, Message: 21 > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:59:32 +0200 David Demelier > > wrote: > > > 2016-07-17 0:25 GMT+02:00 Polytropon : > > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:06:07 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > > > >> Hello, > > > >> > > > >> I was trying FreeBSD 10.3 on my laptop (hp probook 4510s) and was surprised > > > >> to see high CPU temperature and fans running high. > > > >> > > > >> No apps running, I get a temperature of 57C in dev.cpu.x.temperature and > > > >> fans run high (not able to get rpms). > > > >> > > > >> On a 4.6.3 Linux distro I get an average of 48C and fans are quite low. > > > >> > > > >> Both tests were kept in tty. No Xorg running just a boot and user login in > > > >> console. > > > >> > > > >> Do you have any clue? > > > > > > > > Did you enable powerd? It can slow down the CPU when the system > > > > is idle, and increase the CPU speed when needed. This should have > > > > an effect on CPU temperature and fan speed. > > > > > Yes, I had powerd enabled, I tried -a adaptive, -a hiadaptive as > > > suggested by Erich but it seems that only -a min has some little > > > effect. I could get a temperature of 52C. I've tested back on Linux > > > and I got an average much lower (41C). > > > > We really need to see what speed the CPU is running at when idle. > > > > I think the fans running high - presumably from the sound and airflow? - > > rules out the sort of sensor errors Arthur reported (ie below ambient :) > > and I assume the box actually feels warmer .. 57C suggests a busy CPU or > > two .. but then it is summer there; what background ambient temp. range? > > We have air-conditioning at work so ambient temperature is normal, somewhat > between 24-28. Ok, just checking. So the temperatures are indeed obviously excessive. > > > By the way the other sensors in hw.acpi.tz* are also much higher than > > > Linux (using lm_sensors). The highest value is my tz5 which is at 78C Isn't that tz2? tz5 is only 55C in your listing (and not active), but tz2 is indeed 78C and working the fan moderately hard. > > > almost 5 seconds after boot while the maximum tz value in Linux > > > sensors is 55. > > > > > > I have no idea what's wrong. :( > > % sysctl hw.acpi > > % sysctl debug.acpi > > % sysctl dev.est # assuming intel? if not, maybe dev.hwpstate? > > % sysctl dev.cpu # best while idle, maybe plus when busier > Thanks for your answer, here I posted the output of the sysctl variables you > asked for: > > http://markand.fr/files/result.txt Thanks, that's a useful format. Well, a couple of things .. > I've ran them on a FreeBSD memstick, I needed to install a Linux distro until > I can find a solution because this drains my battery a lot. But did you start powerd after the memstick boot? From the CPU speed, assuming it was generally idle, I suspect not? The big surprise is that CPU frequency (at least when you asked) is at maximum (except for Turboboost mode) and that it's only using C1 state when halted. C2 and C3 states provide a huge win for power consumption - and so proportionally less heat. Alexander takes it to the limit at: https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 # the 'master setting' for cx_lowest # ==> sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 14427us dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 [..] dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 13756us dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/1 C3/3/162 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2101/35000 2100/35000 1600/23888 1200/15000 dev.cpu.0.freq: 2100 Also noted that it's running on battery (which is good for this purpose) hw.acpi.acline: 0 hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5 hw.acpi.battery.units: 1 hw.acpi.battery.state: 1 hw.acpi.battery.time: 91 # can likely be doubled of better hw.acpi.battery.life: 79 > The average temperature was 50C, a bit less than the installed version on > hard drive where I have seen higher values. This is interesting. I will > double check if something else makes the CPU more busy. Well you need to duplicate basic conditions when booted from memstick; after boot, as root you should be able to: # service powerd onestart # sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=Cmax and then observe dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.cx_usage .. Though whenever you plug it in, or unplug it, you'll have to set the sysctl again, unless you update the settings in /etc/rc.conf (possible?) Which should a) have it drop back to 1200 MHz and b) allow it to use C2 and probably C3 .. you might check dmesg for any mention of 'C2' or 'C3' as certain combinations of chosen timecounter can limit C3 or even C2 use, and will say so (usually to do with use of the TSC as timecounter) On 9.3 one still had to explicily set these: !grep cx /etc/defaults/rc.conf performance_cx_lowest="HIGH" # Online CPU idle state economy_cx_lowest="HIGH" # Offline CPU idle state !grep cx /etc/rc.conf performance_cx_lowest=C3 economy_cx_lowest=C3 But on head sources from a couple of months ago: !grep cx /usr/head/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf performance_cx_lowest="C2" # Online CPU idle state economy_cx_lowest="Cmax" # Offline CPU idle state So you might want to check what is there for 10.3? Setting both 'Cmax' (or at least to C2) should be safe, the head defaults above are likely more conservative for a few boxes that aren't happy with C3 and higher. If that works, with powerd running CPU at 1200 MHz, it should save lots of power and run plenty cooler. Good luck! Warner Losh has suggested disabling Turbo mode on these if having heat problems, by adding (in your case) '-M 2100' to powerd_flags, but that might be something for later. Meanwhile go for C2 and C3+ if possible. As for fans, tz2 and tz0 are the only ones with 'active' cooling, though tz2 is the only one also with passive cooling, so is most probably the CPU/s - see acpi_thermal(4). This one doesn't turn on passive cooling (ie slowing the CPU) until only 3C below critical shutdown temperature, which seems a bit close to me. At that moment it was above 45C and below 62C, so running at level 3. hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TSP: 300 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC2: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._TC1: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._ACx: 84.0C 74.0C 62.0C 45.0C 38.0C 30.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._CRT: 108.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2._PSV: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.active: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.temperature: 53.0C This fan is also active at level 3 (0-based, so above 72C, with 3 higher speeds to go). It can be hard to tell what TZ matches what 'device'. hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 105.0C 96.0C 87.0C 72.0C 64.0C 57.0C 30.0C -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 108.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 78.0C That one seems pretty high. I'd suspect the GPU(/s?) but you're not running X, so hmmm .. definitely not CPU though. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 13:21:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33DBB9E4D3 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AB78169D for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id m101so47114248ioi.2 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 06:21:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HoO6mlW6H2aBFsnPj0Mk92Z2rUBOy0djxO72oMtAnWw=; b=vElUs5W0ZyO3CncDVRRzxH0amZANysNOeEjMqcGsuG9Em+DAE0cT2L+J7fqu0s6APP N/xZbVgoJvVo/Q35oZsEwCCo69siXWW7FLbQh2pRc8qt0vu47g1SJSapvxMcCcd/3QED Sqj6jPkF8yK/1lumkzDoo8owN6UHJkKUmdAvYaQAMROmKc/45iqW76C+sdgZsaQA7QZv UGtf7cb5MYBTbaCIsqH4aw47DlTirSvBA2SwYPGU5Gf04J63vaTYVqlkD+2uAunvIEdS xYISvx7DUXD3PNdXN1/F0zXu9qcNkBrfAzRSDLN3G6sY4E6snXzahVpHUnGVU26EO8LR BxSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HoO6mlW6H2aBFsnPj0Mk92Z2rUBOy0djxO72oMtAnWw=; b=elNZDf/pQPORX6jModeEKdcnClJ0hsxmh4OJ0nmvny/dWwNEFOaiY8M0zK8+B9ntG4 5xiZCL6fV3+XThP5PjLMFv4PKvg8vF1tX8pcGkdIw22fTT+08CLukQrdUosJ+Ul3rcV4 m3Zsd9QaHxBSQs/hWFjfeoMLzeyjFVEJE6XRTGu3KSHLQStP9Y9Rf1D1j5ltzuloOoOi SBsOA/3CKL8bzKBMSZuorVZoWdfaaMWDOcfI2cLnm9cQK8ek0n6k/tj4MPHWVaZoOc5j GinbJLe9cEpqjrbaWrJPSBCEQ5byYeRQR+lhyO5snhqcbtXNqKQ+xeiZw7Mlw1x6H8nV /Jcw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL3EsRxYm6TLeCMICxCujt+VdXNq5MmlpstxoAUxlcxgR88xQFHwikxgo5v0iKDAg== X-Received: by 10.107.26.16 with SMTP id a16mr27075105ioa.30.1469020865831; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 06:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-184-56-210-236.neo.res.rr.com. [184.56.210.236]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i80sm1381988ita.5.2016.07.20.06.21.05 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jul 2016 06:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <578F7AC3.9070702@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:21:07 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: Nan Xiao , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: A question about modifying autoboot delay time References: <2016072011093115531210@chinadtrace.org> <20160720143127.d93ff2ff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160720143127.d93ff2ff.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:21:06 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:09:33 +0800, Nan Xiao wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> My FreeBSD is running on VMware virtual machine. I modify /boot/loader.conf file >> to prolong autoboot delay time: >> >> # cat /boot/loader.conf >> autoboot_delay="60" >> >> After rebooting, I find the prompt is still default value (10s), and the >> screen looks >> like hung (The image is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NanXiao/FreeBSD-101-Hacks/master/images/boot_kernel.JPG). >> But the actual delay time seems taking effect, about passing one minute, >> the system boots up. >> >> Is it a bug of running FreeBSD on VMware virtual machine? Could anyone >> help to explain it? > > Did you try the "simplified" boot screen? In /boot/loader.conf, > define the following: > > autoboot_delay="60" > beastie_disable="YES" > > Maybe it's just a "display thing" error related to the menu screen... > > You did not state what version of Freebsd your running. If your running any of the available 11.0 systems then the problem may be with the default vt console driver. You can code boot loader to use sc driver instead to see if problem is still there. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:16:58 -0000 El 20/7/2016 4:34, "Warren Block" escribi=C3=B3: > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Ben Woods wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 19 July 2016, Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa < fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What's the status of EFI and GPT support on FreeBSD? I would like to triple >>> boot windows 10 + FreeBSD 10 + Linux everything installed on a single disk. >>> Is it possible? >>> >>> If not with GPT, would it be better to fall back to compatibility mode and >>> MBR partition scheme? >>> >>> Has anyone played with this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >> >> I dual boot my laptop with Windows and FreeBSD using a single hard drive= . >> >> I find the easiest way is creating 2 new GPT partitions (1 for ZFS and 1 >> for swap). I then manually copy the FreeBSD EFI boot loader to my EFI >> partition, by mounting the existing EFI partition that comes with the >> laptop as msdosfs to /mnt, copying /boot/boot1.efi to >> /mnt/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi. >> >> Lastly, I install refind on my efi partition to allow me to select between >> the Windows EFI loader and the FreeBSD EFI loader at boot time. >> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ > > > I do a similar thing, but my UEFI Dell notebooks allow setting each EFI boot loader as a menu entry. So no additional software is needed. Thanks for the tips! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 17:05:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4C8B9F300 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8041C1BBE for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from dalet402 ([96.51.29.244]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id PutHb4MaA32mrPutIb7bcO; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:02:37 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20150330; t=1469034157; bh=t1EKVWMjKYSL62oYBUs3cEtNey2tI8/oLq/Z6DnMZLs=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=KPhs/kDJ5rulxoa2sXANuVffocff2rQawnShIgb9d8Q600KDMRscqOdx/3t/h7JUm ZlWf2yDydJyxkIb4eAhiKAq4QBvM5jBREBhSxy08EC2pysSdRczK6atO2bl+F4/M+g Q4i8mEdSGX2ZRCKgbArfFBY56TB8mFoEYm1q1pHxaSgQhyLJCNY+x2A5eEIa7HdsqY dW2tNtVxphJ8euhCs/INMT3C5kJCGoOaG7JbeRpOsTO8wGldJx1nXEpfMwORui9cey FckULRDVZfwYiKAS/LFA5eabEB18pEolE+Q253u2mMEm38ps8quGQBQ80MFY/eEFdH P/Z2Y6HzoduTg== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=ROzxJMq+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=mx2mDpWj7B94LQ/P08kUsw==:117 a=mx2mDpWj7B94LQ/P08kUsw==:17 a=lNGk4Rm3YwcA:10 a=ygMALhXUAAAA:8 a=5mcg790sAAAA:8 a=jU4qhlNgAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=yZ61MkXYUknTpHV_adUA:9 a=SoY9KruQZiHiNw2_:21 a=6Gt7Evj19xftKEwS:21 a=8DtKGnlmIJIA:10 a=_Hf-veiSMv1dfX9obJIg:22 a=uQeDYW1NI25gHNlrW_eK:22 a=Yzj368saxjB-0pgflKQk:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=JlwNWS_Myq4plbCuGd51:22 From: "Dale Scott" To: "'Alexander Sadovski'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: =?windows-1255?Q?RE:_Question_about_Tape_services=FE?= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:02:37 -0600 Message-ID: <00ed01d1e2a8$85450090$8fcf01b0$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKq1a0okri7nu9FepxBUk7KBLAx055vouuw Content-Language: en-ca X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJkZJ7phxC+vqoRSKUlpXY1KX55/AZGOd1x5M6YEfNFHpqVoYJqhnOzi6oVSRpUsSdME9T8rx2+fsWjoon9tWYiz4vSQ3QNrXCSwainZzpYCYP8j7Akv kIqCB0EdKx2Zil33btlqtYGA1mCRFTuMsjBp+fYfZdtPUN4H1SNv16X5jb9ti+93vGvgzxwpWD+wcX8iQzkAEtfKgi/uREl39pk= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:05:14 -0000 http://tapeconversions.com/ I used their services in 2006 to get the data off a number of QIC cartridges. I couriered the cartridges and they emailed back zip files = (the tapes arrived later). I was very pleased with the promptness and cost = (at the time US$35/cartridge, plus return shipping cost). --- Dale R. Scott, P.Eng. dalescott.net Transparency with Trust Blog: http://www.dalescott.net LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dalescott -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alexander = Sadovski Sent: July 20, 2016 8:51 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question about Tape services=FE Dear Mrs./Mr., =20 I have a few 1/2" Magnetic Tape reels written by Data General 6021 Tape Drive on Nova 840. Is it possible to read them and write ASCI content on CD for Windows 7 = PC? Please answer me by email. =20 Best regards, Alexander Sadovski =20 Prof. Alexander N. Sadovski, Patriarh Evtimii Blvd. 25, Fl. 4 Sofia - 1000, Bulgaria Phone: (+3592) 981-5586 email: alexsad@hotmail.com =20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 19:31:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB069B9E428 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 680831C0E for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmatalka@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id i5so8408436wmg.2 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=CeSaPtJFIxbEh4rcP5UsURwDvg21HEghaB3J6TfWfNg=; b=rWs/e1UOufsr63IsXg59hazetjEWMK9qkxb+gOd7V7lTgSBmjLEWbHb6NPa/syZYP1 odnBM1pIt0CJemteIP8iPHtJFBc+IyUSJJ3xBuhdhSOIaoc+LIYoMZSAxQ4nZn009fOS ETB5a9DHF4LkzS0Mij0NqGaViKpCVoArjxaJwNYtP8O+IZpR7sFEZRZL9xlliB+E0Qz+ LXTAqZDSgdPkRsWuvLO7MVlQHTiQUHyQcSB5TSpD4MTi1lwJ7GaYTWIvEst4UqmYYaCN 2G8BaUc0Xwv95PGgZnpvpDs1ggSGCipSQ1wcfqZl9qFrlIBweIbtoYss3WnjmML+BFjJ pAxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=CeSaPtJFIxbEh4rcP5UsURwDvg21HEghaB3J6TfWfNg=; b=kcvv94VOFF45WoZBPiX9mTvJrc2nmo4U9bd3hjrVQipLaHmlBUaVraesAXZfeQ2quO nZvhvlCHjv3HV+CEVOqnTQcMTehiGherNcMFwvLy0SvM2MeALx62PceWS+4x75KLl6e/ zBu7R5WLzVJXWV9eI1YH53ZAh08vdSbBOmKj4U3oGBzVOjSPJOM6Ethaf9FwdeO4SjIt Uw5Zo6gMHegobIHMcSF2Y9IA0/x183uTVuJ+pb29TRfCUrWB/OUTSdIZfQD0Mcx3iGWx VJ11s9kWzbj+Zf+IIlQ5kqJVBsNDDbfQR+jt8L6HdoI2iCV7hPaUb1LFhQbWrQ2VZxiM mKtw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJv92y3znT3BUgX1rwSwmcZ3Hp0pK1/3afR/+njTfEjYRKAxquZ8bPmZYNcZCVyZw== X-Received: by 10.194.71.104 with SMTP id t8mr3062684wju.128.1469043099529; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([37.153.108.22]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a2sm32994064wma.2.2016.07.20.12.31.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Malcolm Matalka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sound from laptop headphones quiet and distorted Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:31:37 +0000 Message-ID: <867fcghzs6.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:31:42 -0000 I'm on an Asus ZenBook UX305CA and I am experiencing oddness in the quality of music with headphones. Some sounds are quite loud and clear, and other sounds are kind of distorted or it sounds like the sound is recorded really far away from the microphone. Things sound fine through the speakers. On top of that, in general sounds are not as loud as they should be. I have to run at near 100% sound (putting it to 100% makes it sound distorted like a if you max out a speaker, even though the actual sound is not loud). The only thing I've done is I have the following in my device.hints so that pcm0 is both speakers and headphones and it mutes the speakers when I plug in the the headphones: hint.hdaa.0.nid33.config="as=1 seq=15" I also turned the equalizer on for pcm0 in hopes that would help me fix the issue, but no dice: hint.pcm.0.eq="1" The output of a verbose boot is below. This is from a verbose boot prior to modifying device.hints, but the situation was no better. Anyone have any suggestions on where to go next? Thanks, /Malcolm hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0 hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 hdaa0: Subsystem ID: 0x10431cfd hdaa0: NumGPIO=3 NumGPO=0 NumGPI=0 GPIWake=0 GPIUnsol=1 hdaa0: GPIO0: disabled hdaa0: GPIO1: disabled hdaa0: GPIO2: disabled hdaa0: Original pins configuration: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa0: 18 90a60130 3 0 Mic Fixed Digital Internal Unknown 1 hdaa0: 20 90170110 1 0 Speaker Fixed Analog Internal Unknown 1 hdaa0: 23 40000000 0 0 Line-out None Unknown 0x00 Unknown 0 hdaa0: 24 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 25 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 26 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 27 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 29 40479b45 4 5 SPDIF-out None Analog 0x00 Pink 11 hdaa0: 30 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 hdaa0: 33 04211020 2 0 Headphones Jack 1/8 Right Black 0 hdaa0: Patching widget caps nid=29 0x00400400 -> 0x00700400 hdaa0: Patching pin config nid=20 0x90170110 -> 0x9027011f hdaa0: Patching pin config nid=25 0x411111f0 -> 0x41111140 hdaa0: Patching pin config nid=27 0x411111f0 -> 0x41111120 hdaa0: Patched pins configuration: hdaa0: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa0: 18 90a60130 3 0 Mic Fixed Digital Internal Unknown 1 hdaa0: 20 9027011f 1 15 Headphones Fixed Analog Internal Unknown 1 hdaa0: 23 40000000 0 0 Line-out None Unknown 0x00 Unknown 0 DISA hdaa0: 24 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 25 41111140 4 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 26 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 27 41111120 2 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 30 411111f0 15 0 Speaker None 1/8 Rear Black 1 DISA hdaa0: 33 04211020 2 0 Headphones Jack 1/8 Right Black 0 hdaa0: 3 associations found: hdaa0: Association 0 (1) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=20 seq=15 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) out: hdaa0: Pin nid=33 seq=0 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) in: hdaa0: Pin nid=18 seq=0 hdaa0: Tracing association 0 (1) hdaa0: Pin 20 traced to DAC 2 hdaa0: Association 0 (1) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 1 (2) hdaa0: Pin 33 traced to DAC 3 hdaa0: Association 1 (2) trace succeeded hdaa0: Tracing association 2 (3) hdaa0: Pin 18 traced to ADC 8 hdaa0: Association 2 (3) trace succeeded hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 0 (1) hdaa0: Looking for additional DAC for association 1 (2) hdaa0: Looking for additional ADC for association 2 (3) hdaa0: Tracing input monitor hdaa0: Tracing nid 35 to out hdaa0: Tracing other input monitors hdaa0: Tracing nid 18 to out hdaa0: Tracing beeper hdaa0: nid 29 traced to out hdaa0: FG config/quirks: forcestereo ivref50 ivref80 ivref100 ivref pcm0: at nid 20 and 18 on hdaa0 pcm0: Playback: pcm0: Stream cap: 0x00000001 PCM pcm0: PCM cap: 0x000e0560 16 20 24 bits, 44 48 96 192 KHz pcm0: DAC: 2 pcm0: pcm0: nid=20 [pin: Headphones (Fixed)] pcm0: + <- nid=12 [audio mixer] [src: pcm, speaker] pcm0: + <- nid=2 [audio output] [src: pcm] pcm0: + <- nid=11 [audio mixer] [src: speaker] pcm0: + <- nid=29 [beep widget] [src: speaker] pcm0: pcm0: Record: pcm0: Stream cap: 0x00000001 PCM pcm0: PCM cap: 0x000e0560 16 20 24 bits, 44 48 96 192 KHz pcm0: ADC: 8 pcm0: pcm0: nid=8 [audio input] pcm0: + <- nid=35 [audio mixer] [src: speaker, monitor] pcm0: + <- nid=29 [beep widget] [src: speaker] pcm0: + <- nid=11 [audio mixer] [src: speaker] pcm0: + <- nid=29 [beep widget] [src: speaker] pcm0: + <- nid=18 [pin: Mic (Fixed)] [src: monitor] pcm0: pcm0: Master Volume (OSS: vol): -65/0dB pcm0: +- ctl 1 (nid 2 out): -65/0dB (88 steps) pcm0: +- ctl 10 (nid 12 in 0): mute pcm0: +- ctl 11 (nid 12 in 1): mute pcm0: +- ctl 16 (nid 20 in ): mute pcm0: pcm0: PCM Volume (OSS: pcm): -65/0dB pcm0: +- ctl 1 (nid 2 out): -65/0dB (88 steps) pcm0: +- ctl 10 (nid 12 in 0): mute pcm0: pcm0: Microphone2 Volume (OSS: monitor): 0/30dB pcm0: +- ctl 15 (nid 18 out): 0/30dB (4 steps) pcm0: +- ctl 36 (nid 35 in 6): mute pcm0: pcm0: Speaker/Beep Volume (OSS: speaker): -34/12dB pcm0: +- ctl 9 (nid 11 in 4): -34/12dB (32 steps) + mute pcm0: +- ctl 11 (nid 12 in 1): mute pcm0: +- ctl 34 (nid 35 in 4): mute pcm0: +- ctl 35 (nid 35 in 5): mute pcm0: pcm0: Recording Level (OSS: rec): -17/30dB pcm0: +- ctl 3 (nid 8 in 0): -17/30dB (64 steps) + mute pcm0: +- ctl 15 (nid 18 out): 0/30dB (4 steps) pcm0: +- ctl 34 (nid 35 in 4): mute pcm0: +- ctl 35 (nid 35 in 5): mute pcm0: +- ctl 36 (nid 35 in 6): mute pcm0: pcm0: Input Monitoring Level (OSS: igain): 0/0dB pcm0: +- ctl 11 (nid 12 in 1): mute pcm0: pcm0: Mixer "vol": pcm0: Mixer "pcm": pcm0: Mixer "speaker": pcm0: Mixer "rec": pcm0: Mixer "igain": pcm0: Mixer "ogain": pcm0: Mixer "monitor": pcm0: Playback channel matrix is: unknown, assuming 2.0 (unknown) pcm0: Automatically set rec source to: monitor pcm0: Recording channel set is: Front Left, Front Right, pcm0: Recording channel matrix is: 2.0 (unknown) pcm1: at nid 33 on hdaa0 pcm1: Playback: pcm1: Stream cap: 0x00000001 PCM pcm1: PCM cap: 0x000e0560 16 20 24 bits, 44 48 96 192 KHz pcm1: DAC: 3 pcm1: pcm1: nid=33 [pin: Headphones (Black Jack)] pcm1: + <- nid=13 [audio mixer] [src: pcm, speaker] pcm1: + <- nid=3 [audio output] [src: pcm] pcm1: + <- nid=11 [audio mixer] [src: speaker] pcm1: + <- nid=29 [beep widget] [src: speaker] pcm1: pcm1: Master Volume (OSS: vol): -65/0dB pcm1: +- ctl 2 (nid 3 out): -65/0dB (88 steps) pcm1: +- ctl 12 (nid 13 in 0): mute pcm1: +- ctl 13 (nid 13 in 1): mute pcm1: +- ctl 23 (nid 33 in ): mute pcm1: pcm1: PCM Volume (OSS: pcm): -65/0dB pcm1: +- ctl 2 (nid 3 out): -65/0dB (88 steps) pcm1: +- ctl 12 (nid 13 in 0): mute pcm1: pcm1: Speaker/Beep Volume (OSS: speaker) pcm1: +- ctl 13 (nid 13 in 1): mute pcm1: pcm1: Input Monitoring Level (OSS: igain): 0/0dB pcm1: +- ctl 13 (nid 13 in 1): mute pcm1: pcm1: Mixer "vol": pcm1: Mixer "pcm": pcm1: Mixer "igain": pcm1: Mixer "ogain": pcm1: Playback channel set is: Front Left, Front Right, pcm1: Playback channel matrix is: 2.0 (disconnected) hdacc1: at cad 2 on hdac0 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 hdaa1: Subsystem ID: 0x80860101 hdaa1: NumGPIO=0 NumGPO=0 NumGPI=0 GPIWake=0 GPIUnsol=0 hdaa1: Original pins configuration: hdaa1: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa1: 3 58560010 1 0 Digital-out None Digital 0x18 Unknown 0 hdaa1: Patched pins configuration: hdaa1: nid 0x as seq device conn jack loc color misc hdaa1: 3 58560010 1 0 Digital-out None Digital 0x18 Unknown 0 DISA hdaa1: Tracing input monitor hdaa1: Tracing other input monitors hdaa1: Tracing beeper hdaa1: FG config/quirks: forcestereo ivref50 ivref80 ivref100 ivref From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 20:26:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EF2B9F758 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pipfstarrd@openmailbox.org) Received: from mail.openmailbox.org (mail.openmailbox.org [62.4.1.34]) (using 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mount with mount_smbfs while smbclient works fine DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1469046398; bh=j1SdvpFW1BFBAhZ3r5q5rY0673ojxT/4w6EgBMyK5PY=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DXcA3tnxnKc2sY+bJSx+7GTjI3lNfqsD5H97dlW7Jmh9HFfMqBMz4RjPDFu+71EZb W0QCPkGE4z7YsXQXMwNqbHOFlI8+AUQg+D4h4XjPI2Gu4vzpHmcVvWO+U9b2I78Wf1 50+THwR4MjzQ4l0BsYeKQvI+TAngl+YB89iNOHQ0= To: Polytropon References: <094cb9cb-79fc-ee1f-062d-a1153b5e7fc6@openmailbox.org> <20160720142422.520d2d08.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: twilight Message-ID: <8f5054ed-5d66-10d4-92c3-8ada9c84d20b@openmailbox.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:24:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160720142422.520d2d08.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:26:42 -0000 Thanks, it kinda worked, but nothing is shown in the mount point. When I try to touch(1) a test file it is viewable through the smbclient(1), but is not displayed with the ls(1) command. Also, none of the existing files are shown. On 20.07.2016 12:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:51:13 +0000, twilight wrote: >> I'm trying to mount a samba share (actually a D-link sharecenter) in my >> local network to my freebsd machine. But for some reason mount_smbfs >> does nothing, exiting with status 1. Dmesg is empty on errors releated >> to mount. PF firewall lets out packages to local network, so it must not >> be the case. >> >> I've read the man twice, the isn't anything covering the possible >> errors. I'm confused, what should I do? > > Allow me to provide some information refactored from a post I wrote > 5 years ago - I'm not fully sure it still applies today, but it did > work as intended. Even though I use mount + fstab, mount_smbfs is at > the center of this approach. > > > > In order to use mount (mount_smbfs), provide the "login information" > as needed in /etc/nsmb.conf (replace uppercase placeholders), for example: > > [default] > workgroup=YOUR_WORKGROUP_NAME > > [SERVERNAME] > addr=192.168.2.2 > > [SERVERNAME:USERNAME] > password=TOPSECRET > > where SERVERNAME and USERNAME correspond to the server's name > and the username you use to access the share (with the proper > password). > > See "man nsmb.conf" for details. > > You could use a hostname instead of an IP, for example by adding > an entry in /etc/hosts for the target. > > Parts of the above information should then be reflected in /etc/fstab, > maybe like this: > > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/share /smb/share smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > > This should allow you to use > > # mount /smb/share > > a bit easier (and automatically, if desired). > > If the target exposes more than one share via "drive letters", you > can use a similar approach in /etc/fstab: > > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/a$ /smb/a smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/c$ /smb/c smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/d$ /smb/d smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/e$ /smb/e smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > //USERNAME@SERVERNAME/f$ /smb/f smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 > > The "generic" mount command will then work as mentioned above. > > -- Cheers~ PGP key fingerprint: 07B3 2177 3E27 BF41 DC65 CC95 BDA8 88F1 E9F9 CEEF You can retrieve my public key at pgp.mit.edu. 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Flix Premiere Ltd: Company = Number 09455299 | VAT Number 236 0004 58 Physical location: Churchdown = Chambers, Bordyke, Tunbridge, England TN9 1NR, UK Sent: 2016-07-20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 06:50:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2A9B9E24F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C03E19D1 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DEE134A882 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Problems with pkg Message-Id: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:06 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:50:43 -0000 I have a recently installed 9.3 system that has been upgraded to the = latest patches available with freebsd-update. I tried to install = postfix using pkg and here are the initial results. Backup% uname -a FreeBSD Backup 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28 = 00:19:32 UTC 2016 = root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Backup% su Password: Backup# pkg install postfix Updating repository catalogue digests.txz 100% 2137KB 2.1MB/s 1.4MB/s = 00:01 =20 packagesite.txz 100% 5592KB 2.7MB/s 2.0MB/s = 00:02 =20 pkg: package field incomplete: comment Incremental update completed, 25142 packages processed: 21260 packages updated, 2245 removed and 3882 added. pkg: Unable to find catalogs At this point I tried it again and got: Backup# pkg install postfix Updating repository catalogue The following 1 packages will be installed: Installing postfix: 2.11.1_1,1 The installation will require 13 MB more space 1 MB to be downloaded Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y pkg: = http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/All/postfix-2.11.1_1,1.txz:= Not Found Backup#=20 I don't have this on other 9.3 systems. How do I get around this? =E2=80=94 Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 09:01:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4391BA07A3 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6922F1E8F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id i5so16658103wmg.0 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xt1KPrZVMnr/nwuCQDb2gGoyvG0/OZez4f8eJxkdzwI=; b=YdEoMfKtLeg+QugSpjMOx/k0qEfCZpGek4r7SLlJ+f4JStFOkgJ1krj1n9bAYovlDK 3+jRzhoz6Fed7KhmWNRjlXM2zoFLEmwt7amOXH2HLgm0jSpGc+2NKSWKp2EpkaZyA95s K9BwDUSXKfOL6VoaBwXyXj7JWUcNYOPszMF4Q41Eody0HSuS10WwDZv0ZX8ZjC/LuXJL hTsHVbQCJkv+wtwQ3dNfWluudYSx1rRdJiRQN48PFa7HrE0q2wL9NarTQy1s+p9TqhpT TPusVFoNE84IrSVvCinFJ/bNlc1e/q210HfnRXPr9vGXi1lCHDM6GUfzUI3yFSFk8OmM aI+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xt1KPrZVMnr/nwuCQDb2gGoyvG0/OZez4f8eJxkdzwI=; b=LMmbmrIr2wHErXRC1rg++iRVoB2kUk9iTrW+iw9OjJBlBcAl9GSCetAgwmvSAKOIZT s1AG+dUvPVNAjf4TP1K/zp5JxIEzwBPbpCima9kp8mpUg+L2K6gzx0DCHa6LhvDwg8wq sbY2jOP2WgZepy1f4Sxltdm/06H2Z0QIbMFyQoa/lPpmo+M9zE44ZC5JPp4sB0p2YCLn B4MRh0c4lbPRhaExQWZnCTjp4FO2TcoJAwzTgigIyQqqHA6qsBt0pOU7S9JOJC1wwnt+ +m24XPWroEri1HWBOA+m9J1gk+DUa5GNc9VWy/ZUKj8YFWGoD0n7P+pxdZkl6iIuRL9e D6dA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK82Pze4aDSGO4ZyhaaVmoBmI/TI7UZ1PpMqikTvOOg0b0zjVFxoWW5O0AiRnOZ2Q== X-Received: by 10.28.216.67 with SMTP id p64mr16761314wmg.56.1469091673752; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([2.157.189.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t188sm2298436wme.19.2016.07.21.02.01.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:01:06 +0200 From: maxnix To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with pkg Message-ID: <20160721110106.30de19fa@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:01:15 -0000 Il giorno Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:06 -0700 Doug Hardie ha scritto: > I have a recently installed 9.3 system that has been upgraded to the > latest patches available with freebsd-update. I tried to install > postfix using pkg and here are the initial results. >=20 > Backup% uname -a > FreeBSD Backup 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28 > 00:19:32 UTC 2016 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 Backup% su Password: Backup# pkg install postfix > Updating repository catalogue > digests.txz 100% 2137KB 2.1MB/s 1.4MB/s > 00:01 packagesite.txz 100% 5592KB 2.7MB/s > 2.0MB/s 00:02 pkg: package field incomplete: comment > Incremental update completed, 25142 packages processed: > 21260 packages updated, 2245 removed and 3882 added. > pkg: Unable to find catalogs >=20 >=20 > At this point I tried it again and got: >=20 >=20 > Backup# pkg install postfix > Updating repository catalogue > The following 1 packages will be installed: >=20 > Installing postfix: 2.11.1_1,1 >=20 > The installation will require 13 MB more space >=20 > 1 MB to be downloaded >=20 > Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y > pkg: > http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/All/postfix-2.11.1_1,1.txz: > Not Found Backup#=20 >=20 >=20 > I don't have this on other 9.3 systems. How do I get around this? >=20 > =E2=80=94 Doug >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Try forcing an update of the repositories with: # pkg update -f and then try the installation again. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 09:05:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FCFBA0A0C for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0D131E for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@mail.sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C189534A9E9; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Problems with pkg From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160721110106.30de19fa@max-BSD> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:05:37 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8098910D-816B-44F9-A66F-8B28CB3A30F8@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160721110106.30de19fa@max-BSD> To: maxnix X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:05:47 -0000 > On 21 July 2016, at 02:01, maxnix wrote: > > Il giorno Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:06 -0700 > Doug Hardie ha scritto: > >> I have a recently installed 9.3 system that has been upgraded to the >> latest patches available with freebsd-update. I tried to install >> postfix using pkg and here are the initial results. >> >> Backup% uname -a >> FreeBSD Backup 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May 28 >> 00:19:32 UTC 2016 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> amd64 Backup% su Password: Backup# pkg install postfix >> Updating repository catalogue >> digests.txz 100% 2137KB 2.1MB/s 1.4MB/s >> 00:01 packagesite.txz 100% 5592KB 2.7MB/s >> 2.0MB/s 00:02 pkg: package field incomplete: comment >> Incremental update completed, 25142 packages processed: >> 21260 packages updated, 2245 removed and 3882 added. >> pkg: Unable to find catalogs >> >> >> At this point I tried it again and got: >> >> >> Backup# pkg install postfix >> Updating repository catalogue >> The following 1 packages will be installed: >> >> Installing postfix: 2.11.1_1,1 >> >> The installation will require 13 MB more space >> >> 1 MB to be downloaded >> >> Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y >> pkg: >> http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/All/postfix-2.11.1_1,1.txz: >> Not Found Backup# >> >> >> I don't have this on other 9.3 systems. How do I get around this? >> > > Try forcing an update of the repositories with: > > # pkg update -f > > and then try the installation again. Exactly the same output as before. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 11:16:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AA6BA0524 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7D911B99 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id i5so20949887wmg.0 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=shHcxzhvg72CGjsXQFHwVee8C8MVS4vYF6FXnC4v9/E=; b=MUneWRg5D1hApT7xYO96owmjbvdZbkTKWhJz8KGmy70eMBgwFlRAOAWMgRSqB/5RGR Z0ypIeBKX6Hw02EcWBIi2ndxLAz+sQk0XZC4YcK5X/jfBM2yhOAjRlUYR3tuiduvZMnx dZ90dEZyqMltE171EWV1lRVQcbZdJJDr8YBFRou380OKJYOEmjWWevMqHTC6Q9ixTq0M LojUEO2g/jQefM2jGXEbrfVu04gANNxfuSSkdwTzhxNxnj1oVf9j4WZI/u3jGZSj7bJu 0gnshIhd+2eW/qlZphqvjFDLf65jeLzn/RQz6ZCb3K0wQT6EY1yU6z09Xt70/JNM4lsA E/RA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=shHcxzhvg72CGjsXQFHwVee8C8MVS4vYF6FXnC4v9/E=; b=GQ9qjVenSZZ69185qZDL8ndJOCE6AFP/DJ0h+mZTFAt8zymv/e4yOSWKnhIFuuLmSz XXvIvFNcLgLISOQPTo05sBhbjTNj8k+bBU2dS+6XzzrMSoUJBG+BNvFMAOsAlplTTa8T 4tMwxzt/EU2SU4G1JGylML0/6wRLzQQj+g4ygiPXjUG6y0ppVw40Z5XsgnJx2mXDMqHI 9thL/ZIcQVdZiVBjWfox7plOhJv4N1NCQW6UeOz316w7Jgx1UM40dL1eCQ23sE2NgziV StPkE1+JrQLsH+t+G8j5LYPs1oTAnC9QcJFL6YtYMDI/K5PSINDgEoYLZPflhKT69vRA IqeA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIqsgeprc+L4X9oVJTV1aV19XGRqM+sx0hIep915TIN5/PuBAsQKD3e6ECw8qURcA== X-Received: by 10.28.203.6 with SMTP id b6mr4982938wmg.78.1469099801838; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([5.86.116.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u125sm3182615wmg.22.2016.07.21.04.16.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:16:35 +0200 From: maxnix To: Doug Hardie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with pkg Message-ID: <20160721131635.5b2f4244@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: <8098910D-816B-44F9-A66F-8B28CB3A30F8@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160721110106.30de19fa@max-BSD> <8098910D-816B-44F9-A66F-8B28CB3A30F8@mail.sermon-archive.info> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:16:44 -0000 Il giorno Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:05:37 -0700 Doug Hardie ha scritto: > > On 21 July 2016, at 02:01, maxnix wrote: > > > > Il giorno Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:06 -0700 > > Doug Hardie ha scritto: > > > >> I have a recently installed 9.3 system that has been upgraded to > >> the latest patches available with freebsd-update. I tried to > >> install postfix using pkg and here are the initial results. > >> > >> Backup% uname -a > >> FreeBSD Backup 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May > >> 28 00:19:32 UTC 2016 > >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > >> amd64 Backup% su Password: Backup# pkg install postfix > >> Updating repository catalogue > >> digests.txz 100% 2137KB 2.1MB/s 1.4MB/s > >> 00:01 packagesite.txz 100% 5592KB 2.7MB/s > >> 2.0MB/s 00:02 pkg: package field incomplete: comment > >> Incremental update completed, 25142 packages processed: > >> 21260 packages updated, 2245 removed and 3882 added. > >> pkg: Unable to find catalogs > >> > >> > >> At this point I tried it again and got: > >> > >> > >> Backup# pkg install postfix > >> Updating repository catalogue > >> The following 1 packages will be installed: > >> > >> Installing postfix: 2.11.1_1,1 > >> > >> The installation will require 13 MB more space > >> > >> 1 MB to be downloaded > >> > >> Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y > >> pkg: > >> http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/All/postfix-2.11.1_1,1.txz: > >> Not Found Backup# > >> > >> > >> I don't have this on other 9.3 systems. How do I get around this? > >> > > > > Try forcing an update of the repositories with: > > > > # pkg update -f > > > > and then try the installation again. > > Exactly the same output as before. > > Pheraps you are using an old version of pkg? If so, install the latest from ports. This should solve the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 19:02:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D4DBA0782 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 176D31609 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [85.181.67.83] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bQJEv-00010C-PN; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:02:34 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u6LJ2WTB002548 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:02:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u6LJ2WJr002547; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:02:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:02:32 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Dale Scott Cc: "'Alexander Sadovski'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Tape =?utf-8?Q?services?= =?utf-8?B?4oCP?= Message-ID: <20160721190232.GA2491@c720-r292778-amd64.fritz.box> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Dale Scott , 'Alexander Sadovski' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00ed01d1e2a8$85450090$8fcf01b0$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <00ed01d1e2a8$85450090$8fcf01b0$@shaw.ca> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 85.181.67.83 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:02:46 -0000 El día Wednesday, July 20, 2016 a las 11:02:37AM -0600, Dale Scott escribió: > http://tapeconversions.com/ > > I used their services in 2006 to get the data off a number of QIC > cartridges. I couriered the cartridges and they emailed back zip files (the > tapes arrived later). I was very pleased with the promptness and cost (at > the time US$35/cartridge, plus return shipping cost). It's a bit off-topic, even off-thread: I own an old 9 track tape from the years 80' which should still contain a bootable Amdahl UTS system, an UNIX for IBM compatible mainframes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_UTS Any chance to boot from this somewhere nowadays? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wer übersieht, dass wir uns den anderen weggenommen haben und sie uns wiederhaben wollen, kann von den Kämpfen der letzten Tage keinen verstehen. Und kann natürlich auch keinen dieser Kämpfe bestehen." Hermann Kant in jW 1.10.1989 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 20:58:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F98BBA0497 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 053F81A9F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB69161F0C for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:58:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gCBnzISF8gZp for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CD3B61335 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:58:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1469134695; bh=qj/gO2/x2JNpgQrHay04Q6+3O4asMxwZzXwr75EPJms=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=aBZL16qNCgR4I1LV1SYrzuA7WoPxKUnuK1+9rlk2dBbGy8+DTuhChR/DXMc4qG+Nf GTmIEiVg9/Wx/apHKdf5OEAeAfZDwMO4RpoPdVJVplQUrJ8hKwis54PkqLf9MHs1/8 7YYuPNuLCG8+x58yQVVdRadH+eI6fuEcpX+Vi20rwXGg02lugTJiFFyC3cJbO9O+3y KLg9mzWNTxMV/kkFDjaLg+2pccXQw2gY3ComWb+kf2iyfjCdQ64QcgC3y4JDgFgogE PXRtNui5LSGMiVg14Ot4tz2UPUOZhIbVUrhF0o4d29tV0JOmqXtqMliluCrDEaJZA2 NeqgeFFkInLZg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:58:15 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:58:15 -0400 Subject: Samba-4.3 FreeBSD-10.3 Roaming Profiles From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:58:26 -0000 Has anyone on the list gotten Roaming Profiles to work with Samba43 on FreeBSD configured as as an AD-DC? I have followed the steps given on the Samba web-site and while I can get the User Home Drive Shares to be assigned to a user profile the Roaming Profile share is not created. There are differences between the instructions given for user profile and user home drive share permissions. But even if I duplicate the settings for the User Home Drive on the Profiles share it is still not created when added to the User profile. If someone could point me to a current comprehensive guide as to what needs to be done on FreeBSD; or can walk me though the exact steps that they took to get this part working on their Samba install, then I would greatly appreciate it. The official guide for the Roaming Profile set-up on the Samba wiki is not as comprehensive as that for the User Home Drive set-up and I suspect some trivial piece of assumed knowledge is absent from the roaming profile write-up. Sincerely, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 22:08:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FC9BA1658 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jornane@fyrkat.no) Received: from epost.ufisa.uninett.no (epost.ufisa.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2::152:65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42370144D for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jornane@fyrkat.no) Received: from feniks.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:1:64:5c61:6ae0:1340:a816]) by epost.ufisa.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F5476E03F5 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 00:08:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 FreeBSD-10.3 Roaming Profiles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: =?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gw4VuZQ==?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 00:08:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a64cDC871OhqUBAxU0nwggoR5SEIsobM5" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:08:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --a64cDC871OhqUBAxU0nwggoR5SEIsobM5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TWflsM7duxBhcBluJxkBhbuu2Ile2bPvu" From: =?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gw4VuZQ==?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 FreeBSD-10.3 Roaming Profiles References: In-Reply-To: --TWflsM7duxBhcBluJxkBhbuu2Ile2bPvu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Den 21.07.2016 22.58, skrev James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions: > Has anyone on the list gotten Roaming Profiles to work with Samba43 on > FreeBSD configured as as an AD-DC? I have followed the steps given on > the Samba web-site and while I can get the User Home Drive Shares to > be assigned to a user profile the Roaming Profile share is not > created. >=20 > There are differences between the instructions given for user profile > and user home drive share permissions. But even if I duplicate the > settings for the User Home Drive on the Profiles share it is still not > created when added to the User profile. >=20 > If someone could point me to a current comprehensive guide as to what > needs to be done on FreeBSD; or can walk me though the exact steps > that they took to get this part working on their Samba install, then I > would greatly appreciate it. >=20 > The official guide for the Roaming Profile set-up on the Samba wiki is > not as comprehensive as that for the User Home Drive set-up and I > suspect some trivial piece of assumed knowledge is absent from the > roaming profile write-up. It's been a while, but if my memory serves me right, it works like this: When you set a roaming profile in AD-DC, it tries to create the profile directory using your privileges. It then uses your administrative privileges (so you're in admin users) to change the owner and lock you ou= t. When I set up Samba a while ago, I decided that I did not like that I essentially needed to be root in order to create a share. So in order to work around that, I use the =ABroot preexec=BB-directive in smb4.conf = so that it can create the users' directory when the user actually logs in. I used the magic [homes] share, but you can just as well use another one.= The only backside of that method is, when you set the roaming profile, you get an permision error. But the field is set anyway, and when the user logs in the profile directory is created. -- J=F8rn =C5ne --TWflsM7duxBhcBluJxkBhbuu2Ile2bPvu-- --a64cDC871OhqUBAxU0nwggoR5SEIsobM5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJXkUfDAAoJELwV7XZn5VZr+iEH+gMeMvVojjZLlloWFwNaub8d EPXa36VZEogSwDkVS7qpmqUqWGmhmbhCd6fkiqKQ3p3OF8zTFBcK+z5fenFY5bll nly9wHHF4bUZUTCMTuCJxUiWRbLvmAJllOV1VTIqB2Xtkgjh5JqJOAf/OH9NsROp mBfZVuTFasI565e8s435H6NXDIivsfJH1reXzrAYEjkooRrl6/sqHSiAJlUjJezY oif2MZ+7lX/TCWnNWjcEzMG/x0Em1z1zQKzNXBx9PDCrETEQVTBEWrMmLxGGheKK i0o9h8+wFPQxdr+oADP3MaI3FLNSaOlU3BbTsZB3kCYCdSmmG+7neg2fiQMKBAM= =ZQZk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a64cDC871OhqUBAxU0nwggoR5SEIsobM5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 21 22:37:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1A6BA1CB1 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@remotesupportservicesllc.com) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59601445 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@remotesupportservicesllc.com) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (unknown [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64E7734A9E2; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Problems with pkg From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20160721131635.5b2f4244@max-BSD> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:37:24 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4063D44B-1F87-4C9C-86CA-7F0869327B46@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160721110106.30de19fa@max-BSD> <8098910D-816B-44F9-A66F-8B28CB3A30F8@mail.sermon-archive.info> <20160721131635.5b2f4244@max-BSD> To: maxnix X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:37:27 -0000 > On 21 July 2016, at 04:16, maxnix wrote: >=20 > Il giorno Thu, 21 Jul 2016 02:05:37 -0700 > Doug Hardie ha scritto: >=20 >>> On 21 July 2016, at 02:01, maxnix wrote: >>>=20 >>> Il giorno Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:32:06 -0700 >>> Doug Hardie ha scritto: >>>=20 >>>> I have a recently installed 9.3 system that has been upgraded to >>>> the latest patches available with freebsd-update. I tried to >>>> install postfix using pkg and here are the initial results. >>>>=20 >>>> Backup% uname -a >>>> FreeBSD Backup 9.3-RELEASE-p43 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p43 #0: Sat May >>>> 28 00:19:32 UTC 2016 >>>> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >>>> amd64 Backup% su Password: Backup# pkg install postfix >>>> Updating repository catalogue >>>> digests.txz 100% 2137KB 2.1MB/s 1.4MB/s >>>> 00:01 packagesite.txz 100% 5592KB 2.7MB/s >>>> 2.0MB/s 00:02 pkg: package field incomplete: comment >>>> Incremental update completed, 25142 packages processed: >>>> 21260 packages updated, 2245 removed and 3882 added. >>>> pkg: Unable to find catalogs >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> At this point I tried it again and got: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Backup# pkg install postfix >>>> Updating repository catalogue >>>> The following 1 packages will be installed: >>>>=20 >>>> Installing postfix: 2.11.1_1,1 >>>>=20 >>>> The installation will require 13 MB more space >>>>=20 >>>> 1 MB to be downloaded >>>>=20 >>>> Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y >>>> pkg: >>>> = http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/All/postfix-2.11.1_1,1.txz:= >>>> Not Found Backup#=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I don't have this on other 9.3 systems. How do I get around this? >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Try forcing an update of the repositories with: >>>=20 >>> # pkg update -f >>>=20 >>> and then try the installation again. =20 >>=20 >> Exactly the same output as before. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Pheraps you are using an old version of pkg? If so, install the latest > from ports. This should solve the problem. Apparently 9.3 doesn't update pkg using pkg. Building from ports takes = a long time over a slow internet connection, but eventually it did work. = I ended up having to rebuild the ports database once again. Don't = quite know why. Thanks for the suggestion. =E2=80=94 Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 06:55:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6BABA1965 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp208.alice.it (smtp208.alice.it [82.57.200.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3B31956 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (87.16.63.56) by smtp208.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 57178E9711FA657F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:55:03 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u6M6t2OE099855 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:55:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 FreeBSD-10.3 Roaming Profiles To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <07a54ce7-bf28-3b7c-c5ad-8ab856652f37@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:55:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:55:12 -0000 On 07/21/16 22:58, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > Has anyone on the list gotten Roaming Profiles to work with Samba43 on > FreeBSD configured as as an AD-DC? Yes and no. Yes: I have set up a couple of AD domains with roaming profiles; AD DCs are jails on 9.3 or 10.3. No: I don't have the roaming profiles on the DC; I leave the file server role to a different Samba instance. If such a setup might suit you, just ask. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 09:10:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7DBA0F24; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF67018B1; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id o80so57240656wme.1; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2kDX0EkL2UhjbvHuI/1pgNWhg3KzBlU5sM+KiWc4ZHQ=; b=IWrDCFRSq2HgcTnFSW89nNUT9d+dt98I3YUWVKdMFDPgdWdncL8GVL+HyEbOBfvui3 qjqXz1NV9p3Aq1UQdjtu0PG8aBwHTcufrfwMQK2D8yXBG8tY/LvQg+XweAq+BHovj1P7 gPlK0VkudlnX4aETx+XPCebp8Bbg7NvQXmDlbtv+X6EoD3xbp5FX+a20hpce+2hn9h7C zPTnH0tew/5WPF4mGRKefOaCPCmozDxjFZytVDs5Y/tm9cEBRLyVHSB2Gb+ydh9aFybE hqvnl2KADkZ17UWurTnZ5woMdg+efL6JnU8xB+S0CHcT+n5iRDhQqnX7Zr5xTjDULx4v eyzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2kDX0EkL2UhjbvHuI/1pgNWhg3KzBlU5sM+KiWc4ZHQ=; b=WOjxa+k0RbQaYR5qXXH3BruteSdiBD5QZajDFnuo5UfCN5e6u1kwOzAxA1HnF2xqma eS76xXJWsG66Kw02AVi0i6vP4PXP1KOxtE4phPTH+Jq7Fwptx56rqoYY3oKQlIa0rnev qt2mF12Zusc+LkNPtxOLLWggx/6kGRTz+twMQUmvvbgHD6t/ZhOQhhyPZKfvLQGwuZM/ 8ArwDf/IrBkDSRc0SPHdxxSifYYqaefCktVaGKoGrpWVc+pmUE5PPaPdlK03tdZ8K62q K0NR5jRvD5PzdD0P5dW56K7rwJo7GbLL2vA+X9aePQsZdBSJPLNE2sTumSrutGKQEBd7 wg3w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJxRESVeb5IqwDPZ2CUK3n+fUi+H2L6aRCnQCn4gNyeWUCBwEgr81RSO4Q5jywIPA4HSOJwcDyJXTdgog== X-Received: by 10.28.69.203 with SMTP id l72mr22750584wmi.51.1469178636504; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:10:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.216.81 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:10:35 -0700 (PDT) From: krad Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:10:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:10:39 -0000 Hi, as 11 is getting closeish to release is there anything special we need to do in order to upgrade from 10 -> 11. I usually use the makeworld method, but I heard that in 11 the base os would be packaged in a different way using pkgng. I cant find any hard information on this though, so currently is just looks like a normal makeworld type upgrade will work with all the normal caveats. Am I correct in my thinking? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 09:41:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC101BA1815; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70F6A18BF; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxnix.bsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id o80so58304669wme.1; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:41:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J4o6F5IzDsX2vilaqtnEMudA1tufdUTxFKSfFnBqy8E=; b=R5Nk/mOn0UCAK0Scv/IDMJIDHiewHlFpf7qxvOaEz7OcSFNFlx6PNXVVVo5Ly7b8Oc iYE6A63NIz6e5EzKi0i1h2m7G8ZkZz2IbEWyQQfrmV0kD5tR9TWqyc9w578xADFgFKKy cdDbOC7DGuQp2K4J6PH6vci8fOyZDc0ZKJEFibUwdE1Rku5dnDgqEq6wz8ED8JJbut/V wjrgI4Kpg4USH5eMJFy//FhQO52Ic+Pp7xaYG2cFsVlsgSrwd/BnqBbYOBoR9lg6UrLk qSmVmt3g6ox+WuVX5tCUskVpEpweQbBqInmRHfwEo5XUr9VRcj1IwHnH1k4JbJxLqDwb Y5wA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J4o6F5IzDsX2vilaqtnEMudA1tufdUTxFKSfFnBqy8E=; b=HvXfb/SCGxJkyaycLWkz8JLBdN14h5zINC3OxFxXShr4+9X7AaSbkdrVv7cRfwBs2Z 7YjnhmK1FXC0XkZCCPZY6JZ+k9gyXgFK+9LyploINjll72akdwrwr1xP0wBhT3C7PSUP dY+zafWJlx+FljXJq3C0Wy4FBj8+tLjS7YZNO3sFMdo0Seh/vgx6WzPsOESpcxMM13si YeEpDiGig8wJ/2SQ21k+4wZ+ZXZ7WRUwn1+adQYjL98QiJHePGDUEmGcUVS9DeP99WDH PNWBwEp86vA52Nu3Pz53GMh5izEwOIOAbdhZsYbADE9ip2YW3OJi0vXNh79zXrZFZ2/2 aGgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoout9WpO3jvfJVIxprgkP7hBqFJsqy8WJIOJm2nTaVxX+olC9qaOqtPV15tU5KscK4A== X-Received: by 10.28.61.11 with SMTP id k11mr4397096wma.34.1469180507079; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max-BSD ([5.87.77.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p23sm11698582wme.8.2016.07.22.02.41.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:41:39 +0200 From: maxnix To: krad Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 Message-ID: <20160722114139.31579fc1@max-BSD> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:41:49 -0000 Il giorno Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:10:35 +0100 krad ha scritto: > Hi, as 11 is getting closeish to release is there anything special we > need to do in order to upgrade from 10 -> 11. I usually use the > makeworld method, but I heard that in 11 the base os would be > packaged in a different way using pkgng. I cant find any hard > information on this though, so currently is just looks like a normal > makeworld type upgrade will work with all the normal caveats. Am I > correct in my thinking? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This concerns binary upgrades. Source-based upgrades are untouched. You can look here for more infos: https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 09:44:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E93BA1ABD for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 422931B89 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 971938100 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/971938100; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:43:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qv7CKLbQR6tlLS1LhIM8q090MOw4bk7th" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 References: In-Reply-To: --qv7CKLbQR6tlLS1LhIM8q090MOw4bk7th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/22/16 10:10, krad wrote: > Hi, as 11 is getting closeish to release is there anything special we n= eed > to do in order to upgrade from 10 -> 11. I usually use the makeworld > method, but I heard that in 11 the base os would be packaged in a diffe= rent > way using pkgng. I cant find any hard information on this though, so > currently is just looks like a normal makeworld type upgrade will work = with > all the normal caveats. Am I correct in my thinking? Assuming you're talking about running 11-STABLE, then yes, a normal makeworld cycle will get you upgraded to 11.0 -- plus all the extra bits needed for a major version upgrade, like reinstalling all your ports so they link against the new shlibs in the updated system. If you want to run 11.0-RELEASE, once it comes out, you can use freebsd-update(8) to upgrade to it. Packaged base is coming, but it's not going to be in place for 11.0-RELEASE. Current plans are it will go live with 11.1-RELEASE, and there will be detailed instructions on how to manage the 11.0-RELEASE (freebsd-update) to 11.1-RELEASE (PkgBase) transition at that time. If you'ld like to help testing and developing base packages, subscribe to the freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org mailing list and start by following the instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase At the moment though, all the PkgBase stuff is entirely voluntary -- you can choose to opt in if you want. There's no expectation that 11.0 systems will have base system packages registered, and you can manage an 11.0 system exactly as you have previously been managing earlier system versions. Cheers, Matthew --qv7CKLbQR6tlLS1LhIM8q090MOw4bk7th-- --8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXkerXAAoJEABRPxDgqeTnbhcP/1yX4tZi3EfV9IlLOxU4HZg8 s4RUER5IFjeBPOJkcIQ5OnsLpmJyi1bnmhLnZ0itLZ2y3gJ1yC065JKe8bN25RkR cxZwmIIWrfGEH0xe6wegqC7FCJp8Z5Zir7GXB7sI37GCvGty8a7O8mgTA2+cRh+P NiwK1IdHXQFVJ+YhTFH2YgOKK83IvfQsHlw7Veadcu0KisRQxrjsg+wUIiS4c5yl 8uY4E79T6uFpkMhmmxTwCQZsOaCj5/4XwUhQMp9/jgvysIV1nk8rjWzVwOlrMgG8 irYtXgR7wBrMskpRM3PJYYnYzyH9GIOTq2RemhGaZJWNmZ/vlr9U2Hx/Y6/2gbox NszGXRdIZs8+Fp7UyatTL7M88HTg5KcS0944ZYIXhF3B3knm0f+7wZ3SXvsEQdOi JE/vcYKZYEx0UZb6MQvvw6X3JYJvnPK4DLkbwRi+FT5I7XHBXrDLYNgR78etKrJr 9UkbW2yrfRD0E6GDWT61O5mgAiOaK7JrQKK4e/rdCVtxd2xoVBpPTXUjkOJ4Tcv3 WYsOWcbjv0WS1Z1aSbRgeBTemsla4TMIYOYcQYGSQcwayZjUzuY3a1/ChwZ51G++ RrBFFXc/svyVsh1tuW6L41WJB0eANnFtyLmJfyXTCV9cDgwokr4/rTSSLAfB9jpz sJqiQ+PNt8mqPwouScHZ =NnWK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 09:47:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84567BA1D9D for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B22A1D89; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id i5so58437625wmg.0; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:47:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OBN2cqnUJ7StpnlQFlLH/jYPqdLyeMbYJIGG6Z13twc=; b=DqCAgf0grBZHOaw+iLBjAK91hWA62AUZFbmzaNQf2Jp1KhbCCXQ9UvQyEn4qUyVPbW q9D9QSgyXk5UaUWXhCRu4Opn1+QR9gzJvWGO3wRYVUQnsBnLR0N6ytm0lub50uI/tkIK 3/kQ2J23jAFLdFVeFeBPdORj2SiooUnQ8RguMl+8RedfhUlTJP/aLdxq2W7DbFxkUV7d C9QSU9MsCESscBLpZU8bwMS8ZRUwEja+Fka4jWB14a1/RKA5WQcsvu+EZY/RfgRps2lT f3D3SwO085qtueQTig8+kV0s1moAgQWiYmN70dXV1PRJGXcxCN4KJqEDn1NgBvoMnAa9 8AVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OBN2cqnUJ7StpnlQFlLH/jYPqdLyeMbYJIGG6Z13twc=; b=U64gNvRYWCU2JiOZV1mQwtPFXHubYerF8SKg2ZaSYT1PnvvfpnUPOail6oq43pR/31 krd03yFlnhFK7rZ0+lwCjT+P+XPfF41CLobE2JtejpLAC12IywIRVWFkToMATbS0XNOM Vs5HawJKdAraXeam6PgXmtwLKyaSfX4DtFAJUWTycd8q3Riq38HnCEB+v2vkeqqOa0yz IuF7xJrhHGoacIqOFim1AfLYiBsaT9e5rIr9U7mRP2+yDEQpDcPV8ohr3ZlNrn+mfiOZ NmnGimWv5tE2xBTLKOy4GQaXeJhuPYaZvt/bHUZJfprgsOdlzvlWkdNGoiGFCr9L/i9t UZLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousw3mEdwtzEjnmndx0G3QqUdoYVOv7eD9S0e56hspDLMm7YvyEgnGBoPgrQXce/XnM1wky1j4iMg5fZCw== X-Received: by 10.194.95.105 with SMTP id dj9mr66382wjb.20.1469180829158; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:47:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.216.81 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:47:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> References: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> From: krad Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:47:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:47:11 -0000 excellent, so its a soft introduction then by the looks of things. Presumably with a view to a fully fledged implementation for 12? On 22 July 2016 at 10:43, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 07/22/16 10:10, krad wrote: > > Hi, as 11 is getting closeish to release is there anything special we > need > > to do in order to upgrade from 10 -> 11. I usually use the makeworld > > method, but I heard that in 11 the base os would be packaged in a > different > > way using pkgng. I cant find any hard information on this though, so > > currently is just looks like a normal makeworld type upgrade will work > with > > all the normal caveats. Am I correct in my thinking? > > Assuming you're talking about running 11-STABLE, then yes, a normal > makeworld cycle will get you upgraded to 11.0 -- plus all the extra bits > needed for a major version upgrade, like reinstalling all your ports so > they link against the new shlibs in the updated system. > > If you want to run 11.0-RELEASE, once it comes out, you can use > freebsd-update(8) to upgrade to it. > > Packaged base is coming, but it's not going to be in place for > 11.0-RELEASE. Current plans are it will go live with 11.1-RELEASE, and > there will be detailed instructions on how to manage the 11.0-RELEASE > (freebsd-update) to 11.1-RELEASE (PkgBase) transition at that time. > > If you'ld like to help testing and developing base packages, subscribe > to the freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org mailing list and start by following > the instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase > > At the moment though, all the PkgBase stuff is entirely voluntary -- you > can choose to opt in if you want. There's no expectation that 11.0 > systems will have base system packages registered, and you can manage an > 11.0 system exactly as you have previously been managing earlier system > versions. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 11:20:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E982BA1392 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa5qjh@xmission.com) Received: from out03.mta.xmission.com (out03.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 180CE1C97 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa5qjh@xmission.com) Received: from in02.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.52]) by out03.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bQXOw-0005pb-Ig for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 04:09:50 -0600 Received: from [203.111.224.51] (helo=[192.168.8.100]) by in02.mta.xmission.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bQXOv-0000Ll-Qg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 04:09:50 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: wa5qjh Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:09:37 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XM-SPF: eid=1bQXOv-0000Ll-Qg; ; ; mid=; ; ; hst=in02.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=203.111.224.51; ; ; frm=wa5qjh@xmission.com; ; ; spf=neutral X-XM-AID: U2FsdGVkX1/TO6HrxlEYMaB3zofPqsMJ X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 203.111.224.51 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: wa5qjh@xmission.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on sa07.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_60, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 1.5 BAYES_60 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 60 to 80% * [score: 0.6130] * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 161 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.07 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 4.3 (2.7%), b_tie_ro: 3.0 (1.9%), parse: 0.84 (0.5%), extract_message_metadata: 2.7 (1.7%), get_uri_detail_list: 0.35 (0.2%), tests_pri_-1000: 3.6 (2.3%), tests_pri_-950: 1.28 (0.8%), tests_pri_-900: 1.01 (0.6%), tests_pri_-400: 15 (9.2%), check_bayes: 14 (8.6%), b_tokenize: 3.2 (2.0%), b_tok_get_all: 4.2 (2.6%), b_comp_prob: 1.60 (1.0%), b_tok_touch_all: 2.7 (1.7%), b_finish: 0.66 (0.4%), tests_pri_0: 118 (73.3%), check_dkim_signature: 0.51 (0.3%), check_dkim_adsp: 3.8 (2.3%), tests_pri_500: 4.4 (2.7%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: KDE panel , how to remove widgets? X-Spam-Flag: No X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 05 May 2016 13:38:54 -0600) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:20:18 -0000 How do I remove some of the widgets and re-order placement of the ones I keep. It's very easy to add widgets and some get added for you. but of late they've re-ordered, some have re-sized, and some now overlap each other. How do I get rid of a few of them? -- -- Gary Corell Experience keeps a dear school but a fool will learn in no other. Ben Franklin's Poor Richard's Almananc From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 11:24:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AACBA15C8 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lan@zato.ru) Received: from mail.zato.ru (mail.zato.ru [178.255.248.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.zato.ru", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CFBD1489 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lan@zato.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zato.ru; s=mailserverdkimkey; h=Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:To; bh=ppQVCV9yd2F2xrsnYY4B22RqKrwy/f78i5u+QNTb2XA=; b=sGJ3DPSFjqC1hxRyfs+GbwZ5VHmOQMmnY9oBLcb4Hy4Fm9bPIzd4NzRXB+L93leUWvYq0QKci3tihFJwiprWuY/0ChqMvJdq884Un9sLsqhLnVe/adPqlWzh3woRJFWXbKhBAY6uWCFdbTF20OLc5LHY67MnZlN9Rlp+6gBd87U=; Received: from startsnto.ru ([81.200.243.105] helo=[192.168.75.50]) by mail.zato.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bQYZI-000Pa7-Ff for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:24:39 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAINCdLiDQm9GD0L3QtdCy?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:24:36 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Test: Matched lan@zato.ru X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.200.243.105 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lan@zato.ru X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.zato.local X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: exim error SSL_write: (from ) syscall: Permission denied after upgrade 9.1 -> 10.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.zato.ru) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:24:49 -0000 Hello everyone. After upgrading FreeBSD 9.1 to 10.3 with appropriate upgrading of packages a mysterious error started to show. (exim-4.87 was rebuilded and reinstalled from ports, because prebuilt package doesn't include LDAP, which is used in our system). FreeBSD send periodic(8) mail to root@, and all root@ mail (by aliases file) are going to my @gmail.com account. And in the morning i see in my @gmail.com account mail from mailer-daemon@, in example: "Warning: message 1bPLy3-000C8V-O5 delayed 24 hours". On server i see this: # mailq 26h 6.5M 1bPLy3-000C8V-O5 root@domain.ru If i try to force exim to deliver message, it shows this: # exim -v -M 1bPLy3-000C8V-O5 ...skip... SMTP>> STARTTLS SMTP<< 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS ...skip... SMTP<< 354 Go ahead 77si558883lfu.292 - gsmtp SMTP>> writing message and terminating "." LOG: MAIN SSL_write: (from ) syscall: Permission denied LOG: MAIN H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [108.177.14.26]: gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [108.177.14.26]: Permission denied But if I try to send mail from root@ to @gmail.com from command line (and also from lan@ via thunderbird), it will be sent right away: 2016-07-20 08:34:40 1bPk9Y-000NP6-6u <= root@domain.ru U=root P=local S=695 2016-07-20 08:34:41 1bPk9Y-000NP6-6u => myaccountongmail@gmail.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.163.26] X=TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128 CV=yes C="250 2.0.0 OK 1468992881 m4si562022lfd.328 - gsmtp" 2016-07-20 08:34:41 1bPk9Y-000NP6-6u Completed If i try to send night mail from queue, it is always SSL_write: error. I've already tried to rebuild exim, to remove old spool dir, to use gnutls instead of openssl with no avail - night mail from queue is not sended, SSL_write error, but i can send mail via exim right now. Also, some emails give me this error everytime, i.e. i couldn't send email to exim-users@ list from this server, because of SSL_write error. exim is: # exim -d Exim version 4.87 (FreeBSD 10.3) uid=0 gid=0 pid=90040 D=fbb95cfd Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 use_setclassresources PAM Perl Expand_dlfunc OpenSSL Content_Scanning Old_Demime DKIM DNSSEC PRDR Experimental_SPF ...skip... Library version: OpenSSL: Compile: OpenSSL 1.0.2h 3 May 2016 Runtime: OpenSSL 1.0.2h 3 May 2016 : built on: reproducible build, date unspecified ...skip... changed uid/gid: forcing real = effective uid=0 gid=0 pid=90040 auxiliary group list: 0 ...skip... changed uid/gid: calling tls_validate_require_cipher uid=26 gid=6 pid=90041 auxiliary group list: 6 tls_validate_require_cipher child 90041 ended: status=0x0 openssl option, adding from 1100000: 1000000 (no_sslv2 +no_sslv3) openssl option, adding from 1100000: 2000000 (no_sslv3) I wrote this question to exim-users mailing list (using other mail server) and received this answer: ================================================================= > SSL_write: (from ) syscall: Permission denied Some form of permissions or security-enforcement issue with the build you did. You may get better help from a FreeBSD mailing list or forum than here; this looks like a pretty low-level problem between the exim user process and the kernel. ================================================================= I have this IPFW rules in firewall: # ipfw show 00050 10935146 1162976580 fwd 127.0.0.1,3129 tcp from 192.168.75.0/24 to any dst-port 80,8080,8000 in recv bge0 00100 494798 869115690 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00400 0 0 deny ip from any to ::1 00500 0 0 deny ip from ::1 to any 00600 3 244 allow ipv6-icmp from :: to ff02::/16 00700 0 0 allow ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to fe80::/10 00800 2 172 allow ipv6-icmp from fe80::/10 to ff02::/16 00900 0 0 allow ipv6-icmp from any to any ip6 icmp6types 1 01000 0 0 allow ipv6-icmp from any to any ip6 icmp6types 2,135,136 01100 3322447 1364993954 allow ip from 192.168.75.0/24 to 192.168.75.0/24 01200 2584569 197934553 nat 122 ip from any to 10.88.1.0/24 01300 2182578 174237565 nat 121 ip from any to 10.90.90.0/24 01400 0 0 nat 120 ip from any to 10.44.44.0/24 01500 63842 3235008 nat 119 ip from 192.168.75.0/24 to 10.60.60.0/24 01600 0 0 nat 119 ip from 10.60.60.0/24 to 10.60.60.127 01700 0 0 nat 118 ip from 192.168.75.0/24 to 10.3.3.0/24 01800 0 0 nat 118 ip from 10.3.3.0/24 to 10.3.3.2 01900 2087132 194863649 nat 123 ip from 192.168.75.50 to any out xmit bge1.5 02000 49098822 4894965993 nat 123 tcp from any to any dst-port 2222,8888,20,21,7071,110,25,465,995,143,993,443,5223,222,22 out xmit bge1.5 02100 1141 521449 nat 123 udp from any to any dst-port 1194-1196 out xmit bge1.5 02200 339310 19901782 nat 123 icmp from any to any out xmit bge1.5 02300 124574754 152157798928 nat 123 ip from any to me in recv bge1.5 02400 0 0 deny ip from any to table(2) 02500 0 0 allow tcp from any to me dst-port 222,80,25,1194 02600 0 0 allow tcp from 192.168.75.0/24 to me dst-port 3128 02700 243411 14335521 allow tcp from 192.168.75.0/24 to me 02800 0 0 deny log ip from table(1) to me 02900 0 0 deny log ip from table(2) to me 03000 179641895 173847999372 allow tcp from any to any established 03100 4948751 849323309 allow ip from me to any 03200 0 0 allow ip from any to me 03300 2153299 275535558 allow ip from 192.168.75.0/24 to any 03400 180977 56263582 allow ip from any to 192.168.75.0/24 03500 0 0 allow ip from 10.60.60.0/24 to any 03600 0 0 allow ip from any to 10.60.60.0/24 03700 0 0 allow ip from 10.19.0.0/24 to any 03800 0 0 allow ip from any to 10.19.0.0/24 03900 0 0 deny ip from 10.88.1.0/24 to any 04000 0 0 deny log ip from not 192.168.75.0/24 to me 65000 48716 6677994 deny log ip from any to any 65535 23 1486 deny ip from any to any In security log nothing about SSL or mail ports. In maximum level of exim debug i see this: SMTP>> DATA tls_do_write(0xbfbfa43c, 76) SSL_write(SSL, 0xbfbfa43c, 76) outbytes=76 error=0 Calling SSL_read(0x291ef200, 0xbfbfb43c, 4096) read response data: size=42 SMTP<< 250 2.1.0 OK a78si15464344pfj.35 - gsmtp Calling SSL_read(0x291ef200, 0xbfbfb43c, 4096) read response data: size=42 SMTP<< 250 2.1.5 OK a78si15464344pfj.35 - gsmtp Calling SSL_read(0x291ef200, 0xbfbfb43c, 4096) read response data: size=43 SMTP<< 354 Go ahead a78si15464344pfj.35 - gsmtp SMTP>> writing message and terminating "." writing data block fd=7 size=8189 timeout=300 tls_do_write(0x29058000, 8189) SSL_write(SSL, 0x29058000, 8189) outbytes=-1 error=5 LOG: MAIN SSL_write: (from ) syscall: Permission denied writing error 13: Permission denied ok=0 send_quit=0 send_rset=1 continue_more=0 yield=1 first_address is NULL tls_close(): shutting down SSL LOG: MAIN H=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.189.26]: alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.189.26]: Permission denied -- Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 12:38:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0606BA1D90 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B96C4184C for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C5A206D5 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:38:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=xiH tDnpC/HTFNJWaGjcva+tSCCI=; b=o7Ew13EVp1Cb3wYY1QtUcsw3GWicSN47/GD kJHeIe6GFcX83YF+nMSp4XnC7s0NyIWvMswika6eOKfmxiLbU3HFm01iA132kNYu IBd07iGu8b5Gg9gGOYB1KcjNuULIZYwC8ynB52xMydKWdtCeUekXzYk/DjdzHFN3 nT6gt/3A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=xiHtDnpC/HTFNJWaGjcva+tSCCI=; b=Xglxw wY1HqIkGLRkdJxQM0Uk5xs0sbUIafKniOIt+pa40GJ0tmKqIsMCP6ZgZoi/NrtZ2 I0bMoEvNHQBmMdOCmFwprBjFToUjcsqL7DjX+0H4TJS5U2zVmqaAYJJein1NBQi3 vyXAr1ozaxVWwTcePuQ7bc2fnqJCN88PrZI6vc= X-Sasl-enc: WToEIXZXKQRRzfChwDyr5lgGyMN0VcQihVvUPh4vC3gk 1469191132 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [82.70.91.102]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 203F3CCD81 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tech-lists Subject: making a server entirely without X Message-ID: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:38:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:38:55 -0000 Hi, I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation for make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? thanks -- J. 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[96.249.243.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm7232336qke.36.2016.07.22.05.43.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 05:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X From: Jim Ohlstein X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:43:39 -0400 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> To: tech-lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:43:43 -0000 Hello, > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:38 AM, tech-lists wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation for > make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? All X components are part of the ports/pkg system. If you don't want them, d= on't install them.=20 -- Jim= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 12:54:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AC5B9F304 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 696B412CA for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D882042C for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:54:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=4lDeQSlIUuAdbqN3h57VpkAOXGo=; b=UAifd6 Eg159+BcJ4b3EUPKFghcw/Twxn7RsRJECn9adzQwr37d66+YMCDkIQyjI7TQ3CsG i6+lBKmA3KQZo8plPDcfwVUmFgRPlxZgzIs6dcRtYsp/1GZ6GGT8fwLOxl5wPR6P 9DF+PErmGEP4sv2VLXEDH4HmxSe35Cuxk4KEI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=4lDeQSlIUuAdbqN 3h57VpkAOXGo=; b=G8V3wt9ubIJbP+0Uh0Fmj0gXb3yMm9gHizsJwQSBSs0TugZ oyW+fFfhGh3RGwEVoQVHdYBctKqMEsgSawshUA7tcyxHCK3xehqRjTYszj44sH9e /M3sfaqKuUXwHvX9pY8y1qtAj6JyWmK1ngh+U92CR1ceFibsqFWvnAU/edWY= X-Sasl-enc: og52Dj4gPi4nUh+bC8hGHcuROF+EnYNkJ1sKOC0UTkoM 1469192098 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [82.70.91.102]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E3A7DF29F3 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> From: tech-lists X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:54:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:54:59 -0000 On 22/07/2016 13:43, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Hello, > >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:38 AM, tech-lists wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation for >> make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? > > All X components are part of the ports/pkg system. If you don't want them, don't install them. But some ports will build X (or parts of X) as dependencies. Or dependencies on dependencies. I want to prevent that. It used to be something like WITHOUT_X11=YES in /etc/make.conf but that was a long time ago and I think the syntax has changed. I'm looking for the new syntax. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 13:01:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3BDB9F60A; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-188.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2E771705; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u6MCp4jb049315 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:51:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u6MCp46r049314; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:51:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: tech-lists Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:51:04 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> Message-ID: <0504030bdaa003bc66cae75c96a9f87a@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:01:13 -0000 On 2016-07-22 7:38 am, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation > for > make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? > > thanks I have this in my make.conf, Not really sure where I got the idea to put these in there though, its been sometime since I did and I have just been using them ever since. OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 X GUI -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 13:04:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A77B9F70E for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78FE4195F for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FC92047B for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:04:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=x9StGoGtp2GW3TRlXpAn0k+jaRk=; b=SzFurc 2PaZIl3veCPcrfHW4xBLhYqQbSB4Ena2gr+I1PWKeIAC7M1eWy3JjI97uB3JGT49 tsrCMWXECHpDVyeQhS3MsDsLPMk16e9AM5tdKEHA5v5DOKZY2AAuMGdD/gpOIsX1 Zht7p/+OzyhYeSnj2n56lDcbu+3hKaIXQhGwA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=x9StGoGtp2GW3TR lXpAn0k+jaRk=; b=buZETIW/TzQ9eY/buHJx5/kFwPMsbPJ4LRx4ACeSbOFocBo NqC8CUJZ+FN5IzMEc9WaW50Cwx863EmSuqrCknNwVyETwVwkAnHvluEjozyH4WGn aD5DmYQkoMV4FYE5d2AIgjxEmJQ5kOTF/M2fdD8EbO4F5YNeJz5K6iy/tBWw= X-Sasl-enc: wJZP3UtsYYiU0gODVZqEDgH3x+OAvs/+1I//OTRojyWz 1469192650 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [82.70.91.102]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A215ACC01B for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> <0504030bdaa003bc66cae75c96a9f87a@dweimer.net> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <59767909-65a0-ec06-904f-72833592d2b4@zyxst.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:04:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0504030bdaa003bc66cae75c96a9f87a@dweimer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:04:12 -0000 On 22/07/2016 13:51, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 X GUI I think that's the one I was trying to remember. Many thanks. -- J. 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[96.249.243.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w7sm7306776qkb.7.2016.07.22.06.04.20 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X From: Jim Ohlstein X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:04:19 -0400 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D32E331-84ED-4F08-8259-E6A2493C5ADA@ohlste.in> References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> To: tech-lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:04:22 -0000 Hello, > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:54 AM, tech-lists wrote: >=20 >> On 22/07/2016 13:43, Jim Ohlstein wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:38 AM, tech-lists wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation for= >>> make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? >>=20 >> All X components are part of the ports/pkg system. If you don't want them= , don't install them. >=20 > But some ports will build X (or parts of X) as dependencies. Or > dependencies on dependencies. I want to prevent that. It used to be > something like WITHOUT_X11=3DYES in /etc/make.conf but that was a long > time ago and I think the syntax has changed. I'm looking for the new synta= x. For ports I believe that you can set "OPTIONS_UNSET+=3DX11" and X11 support w= ill be deselected, but you'll still have to go through options on each port a= nd its dependencies to remove opens that may pull in X11 dependencies.=20 -- Jim= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 13:19:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2E9B9FCC4 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E99111B1 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE85061F9F; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:19:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id grS_Uw7FtMXQ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0366F61F9D; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:19:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1469193567; bh=rNLVROYSmkQRG1h5kCf/4TU3aBeq/6t5JTzwDO5TtC0=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=efZkVoUOkaufHbirGjCtL6rpyqrwQZCmJWSIbBiEGZA0mFoytY5QBrbXkm2UXF3uL yB+9iYoyWERrnN0PWH4DphaMUYUhyovZAmqxwFS/BnxGVMAd0KRPGzIGJgljFxYauq 4mlg1T7tskbuXDIj5nXWFqO+sMfHqIlYBRQ7ic4wyVEDpgNX4UMmtLd14/AipeikEn 3Zon3lSF9DlpKPdKsrnrZRwXVdtD7211JX75c28jETvczd6rscRsWZ03KZ6FdSaks+ 843zylovSzbeQp3N9KQ4rj6oADYZzpSV+C+iA0BmsGgLMbQuicRQ5aO5Xkrfs5f3v7 m4YcakUe2C4ww== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:19:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Samba-4.3 FreeBSD-10.3 Roaming Profiles From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Andrea Venturoli" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:19:32 -0000 On Fri, July 22, 2016 02:55, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 07/21/16 22:58, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Has anyone on the list gotten Roaming Profiles to work with Samba43 >> on >> FreeBSD configured as as an AD-DC? > > Yes and no. > > Yes: I have set up a couple of AD domains with roaming profiles; AD > DCs > are jails on 9.3 or 10.3. > No: I don't have the roaming profiles on the DC; I leave the file > server > role to a different Samba instance. > > If such a setup might suit you, just ask. > > bye > av. > > Anything that works will suit me at them moment. Do you have a write up of what steps you followed for the 10.3 arrangement? What bothers me is that the users share gets created as expected but that the profile share does not. Due to my lack of experience with AD I do not understand why the set up for the two shares differ on the Samba wiki or what the implications of the differences are. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 13:21:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DF9B9FE95; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from bsd.zplay.eu (perso.pw [62.210.240.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bsd.zplay.eu", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4F291308; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from bsd.zplay.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bsd.zplay.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ff0e1c41; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:26 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=perso.pw; h=to:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from :cc:in-reply-to:references:message-id; s=selector1; bh=HtuuX0rMp Q1ak/jZ8MYjk76IbIo=; b=VE8iTW7q4Zfh6E8zX7ZWEOX1nn77r8vz0IegGcFqm T0HacsoRut6+HGtPfx4xTG4vZanVCjSO2RGr9Dt2MltK57A0m/PwmXeBpifiBL/N V56+VUryQUHHh3GsANaLbUQYzrD/SpK/ffXjWDUUp9nyLc/ZeD4/Cgo9xnVWOcN4 yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=perso.pw; h=to:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from :cc:in-reply-to:references:message-id; q=dns; s=selector1; b=fF/ XGF6teZvToNGTYc2WhpqJ1dZjNyBd6bfk3VgWRR/R1CyPJzaF5itW1GYvx0Vgr06 Q8ynmvxBue+Gpijks8AUcyYr3SYTAKW3R1LTDR1VEKpitIvfjV4Z6ua+DZr/tgoa NYj/8UHqpsBQF8k+3HzO2EgH9nqbACeBx6D7TG7w= Received: from localhost (bsd.zplay.eu [local]) by bsd.zplay.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id f9999a5a; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:25 +0200 (CEST) To: tech-lists Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:25 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sol=C3=A8ne_RAPENNE?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> Message-ID: <1c471b3f4106a88a12107bc7368cdfd7@mail.zplay.eu> X-Sender: solene@perso.pw User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:21:11 -0000 Le 2016-07-22 14:54, tech-lists a écrit : > On 22/07/2016 13:43, Jim Ohlstein wrote: >> Hello, >> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:38 AM, tech-lists wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation >>> for >>> make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? >> >> All X components are part of the ports/pkg system. If you don't want >> them, don't install them. > > But some ports will build X (or parts of X) as dependencies. Or > dependencies on dependencies. I want to prevent that. It used to be > something like WITHOUT_X11=YES in /etc/make.conf but that was a long > time ago and I think the syntax has changed. I'm looking for the new > syntax. Hello, You may have problems with some ports if you want to build them without X11. I had to remove WITHOUT_X11=yes because of some ports, I don't remember their names but they were related to images creation (like ImageMagick etc..). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 13:25:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8958BB9FF67 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 551121651 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bQa8b-0006pd-F1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:05:09 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bQa8q-000GK0-Ea for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:05:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:05:09 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making a server entirely without X Message-Id: <20160722140509.4d58c715c8821c72b9013987@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> References: <4fe29709-c000-43ac-01c5-38b607887f19@zyxst.net> <2AE900AC-9B5D-42D4-9715-4F7A5FBA6ADA@ohlste.in> <945bba5d-ffb4-10cb-1467-f1f7ca4d73db@zyxst.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:25:19 -0000 On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:54:49 +0100 tech-lists wrote: > On 22/07/2016 13:43, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > > Hello, > > > >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:38 AM, tech-lists wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I want to build a server entirely without X. What is the incantation > >> for make.conf please? Or is it incanted elsewhere? > > > > All X components are part of the ports/pkg system. If you don't want > > them, don't install them. > > But some ports will build X (or parts of X) as dependencies. Or > dependencies on dependencies. I want to prevent that. It used to be > something like WITHOUT_X11=YES in /etc/make.conf but that was a long > time ago and I think the syntax has changed. I'm looking for the new > syntax. X11=NO should do the job AFAICT. Disclaimer - I haven't tried it, just seen that bsd.sanity.make says X11 is the replacement for WITHOUT_X11. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 15:14:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790E8BA1B86 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iron_order_sucks_ass@openmailbox.org) Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org (mail2.openmailbox.org [62.4.1.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E1B1266 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iron_order_sucks_ass@openmailbox.org) Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17AAA10610C; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:13:59 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1469200440; bh=OHMAqC4SYN5lO9D+SNrxBVl3D4cHP3tRJyLSEWinD6g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=dPfmGFj8qzUy9MjcjEnyUK32MBjrQfNIwy5bY3oANBEK2hPXT5IdE1U3LtfmdPgsg i90k4dT89YhebzdpBEVyG2TDI6W2MNIYNa3aYgonqvYuEK6rEKoe7G35RS/Dh/wYbl i9rsAAsgnp1ivW+GWX2jwhmlimWjS6DFrIJsc7t4= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on h4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:13:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1469200435; bh=OHMAqC4SYN5lO9D+SNrxBVl3D4cHP3tRJyLSEWinD6g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ack/7j2oj81qykNpZs/ofdhqoxCP5C5o0hgXQviuB8NQiUrwCghOoTFwaGEEBiJUU ftCVtaGA9CCXRaVkJ04Co7/mHdSbsq3+vRLSwjKCXZc8BXkz9TIZq68AbQdbzudvac q/SD1xBhEKa+d+mefmNbayOMk7pwZKnTi5zUc5AU= From: Blurgh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE panel , how to remove widgets? Message-ID: <20160722101355.52bad2a2@FTF.FTG> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.20; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:14:09 -0000 On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:09:37 +0800 wa5qjh wrote: > How do I remove some of the widgets and re-order placement of the ones I > keep. It's very easy to add widgets and some get added for you. but of > late they've re-ordered, some have re-sized, and some now overlap each > other. > How do I get rid of a few of them? > > Right-click on the panel in an empty area and choose panel options->panel settings Then when you float your cursor over an icon, it gives you an option to remove it, or left-click on it and move it to where you wish on the panel. -- http://www.roadblock.org/rights/ Know your rights about and at roadblocks! http://fija.org/ Learn about Jury Nullification! Take back your rights from the over-reaching: police, justice system and government! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 15:50:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC4B9F653 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98C2416AE for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.15.239.55] (helo=[10.46.83.55]) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcie-0002qo-0O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:50:32 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Subject: Re: KDE panel , how to remove =?iso-8859-1?Q?widgets=3F?= Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:50:29 +0200 User-Agent: Dekko/0.6.20; Qt/5.4.1; ubuntumirclient; Linux; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <471b847b-028e-4e86-854a-1a0b1b0a4e04@unixarea.de> In-Reply-To: <20160722101355.52bad2a2@FTF.FTG> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.15.239.55 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:50:36 -0000 On Friday, 22 July 2016 17:13:55 CEST, Blurgh=20 wrote: > ... >=20 > Right-click on the panel in an empty area and choose panel options->panel= > settings >=20 > Then when you float your cursor over an icon, it gives you an=20 > option to remove > it, or left-click on it and move it to where you wish on the panel. Do you (or someone) knows how to tweak the KDE4 pannel, desktop app icons,=20= features ... by editing config files or using command line stuff? This=20 would it make more easier to setup your desktop after new installation. Thx matthias --=20 Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 16:23:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF73B9FED7 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@shinnok.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x236.google.com (mail-vk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7727A1877 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@shinnok.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id s189so163647611vkh.1 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shinnok-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version; bh=uiCs1K5rC5J6L48TTyQYjZox3XHdUw9gKuVWOQl5qd0=; b=jo/HGuZkaUr+lKvpm2+OIy5ehpvmOm1caCm4wJe6vVBqdJf7T2/bESYNy76ry/tToX Y815pj0WlNAWiT6BCJJNrJInshzoY3yvsQ9cnA18/dOXz3IQfx7HFNPzPVZhrxxQ3dUb pungZXparvUmIrh5VCaPtt5EK5dFPhVsnCpJ2JQEkV9KUeHvOzbVmJ43165L6lHq56qN JsSy2uXC7DqCNT0COs/HYdOtHkFy6N+ndxo2GkKT7hCstWglDbcCxWIW5gFAQlCo8JqZ X4gEsFl+vLLDHCkJ8I+JjT10Jk/fSxYtskq+Rh2MiQVBr15Teen90kjaWzF0mAqS8xBV b3Kw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:subject :message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=uiCs1K5rC5J6L48TTyQYjZox3XHdUw9gKuVWOQl5qd0=; b=nFrbVOgBz1ek4zNGtL4E7nlPy7/GxgW33mB0TznYTmjIrNWmOnyAoNPNFFdXVNPhnL i0uIBKTtbfoocFneVkCiOD29E20apFxFI03GO0C3mHd7NMfMYfk6mkHznvJUrq4JcO8Z UH2OzB2pTC2vwLyYqk7sEY3HbvVyLznxGlvXbrGzVnaJZiDsaR0jx/QTOfh/jpL2Qb1s s6plT8q+5qCuiaSt/yvuGDl1Wb02Rg/187Lfy/tnBt5gYka6Sax/XqKHX+lJWGQ9qGrd YcqIRzhYVps9s2gQFkI8gbq7fEkAx2kabwYzMRUOY5tvL3Y7h2EfmclcnlOGvJa8wz6z TLtA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvbn26HVU4Wj/uwqOSHaVHqJTcGH0CxLvCy412DOWurQO7UsnNqBw9k8x212Rpbpw== X-Received: by 10.31.13.85 with SMTP id 82mr2235883vkn.87.1469204596229; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.128.54] ([96.85.235.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l36sm2234149ual.19.2016.07.22.09.23.15 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:23:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Shinnok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: /etc/periodic question Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:23:13 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:23:17 -0000 Hi, Is /etc/periodic daily, weekly, monthly scheduling more like anacron = than cron? Cron will skip a schedule if the system is off or hibernating, whereas = anacron will execute with the next opportunity, thus no missed = intervals. If not, then what's the best option for scheduling tasks on non 24hour = systems like laptops? Thanks, Shinnok= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 17:19:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B82EBA1C5A for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C651861 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EF8082D1 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/1EF8082D1; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: /etc/periodic question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <0542d31e-53c6-3951-bff5-c0fef5e98ab3@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:19:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s8Qqb6JRPiPgcQLsxsE4OI7L4r998HK8E" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --s8Qqb6JRPiPgcQLsxsE4OI7L4r998HK8E Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9ivsD019Hw0RoMluQVgGQRxF97GRvcPvb" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0542d31e-53c6-3951-bff5-c0fef5e98ab3@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: /etc/periodic question References: In-Reply-To: --9ivsD019Hw0RoMluQVgGQRxF97GRvcPvb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/22/16 17:23, Shinnok wrote: > Is /etc/periodic daily, weekly, monthly scheduling more like anacron > than cron? >=20 > Cron will skip a schedule if the system is off or hibernating, > whereas anacron will execute with the next opportunity, thus no > missed intervals. >=20 > If not, then what's the best option for scheduling tasks on non > 24hour systems like laptops? It's not just cron-like -- periodic scripts literally are run from the system crontab file /etc/crontab. That means if your machine is switched off or hibernating overnight, the default periodic jobs simply won't be r= un. There are a few solutions to this you might want to consider: - change the time that the periodic jobs run to some time when the machine is more likely to be up. Note that periodic jobs can involve quite a lot of disk IO, and this may have a noticeable affect on performance. - Install anacron from ports and use that instead. Don't forget to disable the entries in the system crontab, or you'll be bound to end up with the periodic jobs running twice at some unexpected time in the future. - Don't worry about running periodic jobs at all. Periodic jobs are fairly non-critical and nothing particularly bad will happen if they aren't run religiously every night, especially on a personal laptop where there's only one user to worry about and you aren't modifying the passwd and group files that often. You can achieve the same results as the periodic scripts by other means where necessary -- occasionally running the scripts by hand works, and having comprehensive backups (which you should do in any case) will be sufficient to replace a number of the periodic jobs. 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[174.30.254.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z128sm6129364iof.4.2016.07.22.11.54.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:54:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <20160722101355.52bad2a2@FTF.FTG> <471b847b-028e-4e86-854a-1a0b1b0a4e04@unixarea.de> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE panel , how to remove widgets? In-reply-to: <471b847b-028e-4e86-854a-1a0b1b0a4e04@unixarea.de> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <86lh0twljg.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:54:51 -0000 :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- Matthias Apitz writes: > Do you (or someone) knows how to tweak the KDE4 pannel, desktop app icons, > features ... by editing config files or using command line stuff? This > would it make more easier to setup your desktop after new installation. There is no such thing. KDE is configured entirely through graphical interfaces. Virtually no KDE applications have command-line options, and I don't recall ever seeing a KDE applications with a man page. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 19:34:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB60ABA20B1 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 403311B0C for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from archlinux.localdomain ([97.66.215.44]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MATlG-1bb6XP0GGA-00BbG5 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:29:33 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:29:07 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE panel , how to remove widgets? Message-ID: <20160722192906.GA426@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20160722101355.52bad2a2@FTF.FTG> <471b847b-028e-4e86-854a-1a0b1b0a4e04@unixarea.de> <86lh0twljg.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86lh0twljg.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2 (2016-07-01) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:rtslE+eZHadCeP2bpbIxLc5N1pxLFhAOAzHoeIcs5ghjzazb+sF mh7lM7YAAT926rK1kX9BLc3K3AMTXix8i2sMYc00IoE8NwcUKMJUWwcZARi/PlxOxoR8mKt pdHJ3sIMtqMtyO05I5m7Kot+BAEJeHNtftLSjNwp6SPbSt0/Pcf8MSIzWttFFFy2lZn8lKP cOvvDleO4QNHhul/Y5ArQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:A7HZ+SmZmDM=:5hGvGJJQgHRpt20uoapeoL wIH4QX0pqPUdqj8bCC1yYWwEvOUBmhEPqMIFzOPhaNs3hS6u8FGj1+S2zA11mtfob+zkQZxuW 0/ATp84FMkzqtiyS0l6Vwi4Gts+g1bUu3r+3Dj97F+9Ct4/F+wqTH0RDzi549jUZMU5oSoN9W sQvEoWlKRmTSv9ZJ0zQTEIN/D3xLPsW/M/B0JWYBM8YfLLAHaa0Dwr2fCuS5QLjnet+mflE7l Mq/tZNivBUcZQxFX9DXakIEdd+6QjHyowWpnrEYNkYPFuHL21Y1DqYx4LgDhZL2aK90LMDfzi wYS81dY3cFCTQLnMXzj7/SYR6hdbK7TMkfpwKE7T2ltKYkA10rxHBTVDxxLC14Eq7zWuUc4oh Feq+83IyqEm5n3G5NEJ98qDRngmomxLZFtP+3X/MWoZeIckeZIaRuQq4s0Oa5wTRiNaKKY/HH 5LMYEVjVWsVHWINW5rt3pgJDZenMT6s7/vEkDFNsMnGW61LPFkVlrGNmQ2EsZtmAH6PTDKMGl xWPZ3oodg8lvtEmsbBDzZu9l7PfgXbWaUgqQUWqBuORYZ+2Wf8h+IsUk4GaX1MxGUEnNcsWAg 06CoVOpRh1+C3EURyRVhh2FL3weaVkZmzXGpdOj6uzIlsznc5H9qz6cVAspbFP+4efeGLXYDw 1abj7pdg1o8e4T5wCMaLeehxn4R1vRYmFhHCKYGUxj0ZvxFeteu2TsgzhAvPdhwL2DQAn7FXB gnuBMlgNQw7leyBfAeblOOOpDLeT4JY1lbr+/K26PYJoikTddMiNyVXz6DE= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:34:54 -0000 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 01:54:43PM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > :: Brandon J. Wandersee > :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com > :: -------------------------------------------------- > :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' > :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- > Matthias Apitz writes: > > > Do you (or someone) knows how to tweak the KDE4 pannel, desktop app icons, > > features ... by editing config files or using command line stuff? This > > would it make more easier to setup your desktop after new installation. > > There is no such thing. KDE is configured entirely through graphical > interfaces. Virtually no KDE applications have command-line options, and > I don't recall ever seeing a KDE applications with a man page. It may be different on freebsd, but on my linux installation I have the following manpages that have "kde" in the name: ~ $ man -k kde amor (6) - A KDE creature for your desktop ark (1) - KDE archiving tool blkdeactivate (8) - utility to deactivate block devices blockdev (8) - call block device ioctls from the command line checkXML (1) - An XML lint tool for KDE DocBook XML documents. checkXML5 (1) - An XML lint tool for KDE DocBook XML documents. fixincludes (1) - Reduce the number of #includes in KDE source files kalzium (1) - A KDE based chemistry teaching tool kate (1) - Advanced text editor for KDE kconfig_compiler (1) - KDE configuration compiler kcookiejar4 (8) - KDE HTTP cookie daemon kcookiejar5 (8) - Command line interface to the KDE HTTP cookie daemon kde4-config (1) - Prints KDE installation paths kded4 (8) - KDE daemon - triggers Sycoca database updates when needed. kded5 (8) - KDE daemon - triggers Sycoca database updates when needed. kdeinit4 (8) - KDE process launcher. kdeinit5 (8) - Launcher for applications built with kdeinit support, and for KIO slaves. kdenlive (1) - An open source non-linear video editor. kdenlive_render (1) - Render program for Kdenlive. kdeoptions (7) - Common commandline options for all applications based on the KDE libraries kdestroy (1) - destroy Kerberos tickets kdesu (1) - Runs a program with elevated privileges kf5kross (1) - KDE application to run kross scripts. kf5options (7) - Common commandline options for all applications based on KDE Frameworks 5 kfind (1) - file find utility for KDE khangman (6) - The classical hangman game for KDE kig (1) - an interactive geometry program by KDE kjs (1) - KDE ECMAScript compatible interpreter kjs5 (1) - KDE ECMAScript compatible interpreter kjscmd (1) - KDE KJSEmbed interpreter kross (1) - KDE application to run kross scripts. ksshaskpass (1) - prompts a user for a passphrase using KDE ktouch (1) - a typing tutor for KDE kwallet-query (1) - KDE Wallet command-line manipulation tool makekdewidgets (1) - Builds Qt(TM) widget plugins from an ini style description file. meinproc4 (8) - KDE translator for XML meinproc5 (8) - KDE translator for XML Further, if you are using the XDG-style of configuration files, I have the following in ~/.config (and I didn't parse the directory for all that may apply): -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 101 Jul 17 08:26 gwenviewrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 107 Jul 11 16:49 kactivitymanagerd-switcher -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 219 Nov 28 2015 kactivitymanagerdrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 143 Nov 28 2015 kalarmrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 18 Apr 14 20:35 kalgebrarc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 3068 Jul 21 21:06 katemetainfos -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 2263 Jul 19 14:03 katepartrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 1878 Jul 21 21:01 katerc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 194 Jul 19 14:02 kateschemarc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 7993 Apr 21 13:45 katesyntaxhighlightingrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 419 Nov 28 2015 katevirc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 33 Dec 13 2015 kcalcrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 277 Dec 16 2015 kcharselectrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 113 Jul 11 16:52 kcminputrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 2140 Jul 11 16:49 kconf_updaterc drwxr-xr-x 2 dutch dutch 4096 Jul 11 16:50 kde.org -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 83 Apr 13 06:20 kdebugrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 803 Apr 12 09:09 kded5rc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 1113 Jul 2 18:33 kded_device_automounterrc -rw-r--r-- 1 dutch dutch 5968 Jul 21 21:01 kdeglobals -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 73 Apr 13 06:20 kfontinstuirc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 26 Mar 2 19:34 kgammarc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 12202 Jul 11 18:48 kglobalshortcutsrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 31936 Jul 11 16:49 khotkeysrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 472 Dec 10 2015 kickoffrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 104 Mar 6 07:04 kiorc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 149 Nov 28 2015 klaunchrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 27259 Dec 20 2015 kmail2rc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 74 Nov 28 2015 kmixrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 586 Jul 2 16:28 komparerc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 532 Jul 18 09:58 konsolerc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 88 Jul 11 18:48 korgacrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 454 Jul 11 18:48 krunnerrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 142 Jul 11 16:50 kscreenlockerrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 86 Nov 28 2015 kscreensaverrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 502 Jul 2 13:32 kservicemenurc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 868 Dec 9 2015 ksmserverrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 61 Jul 11 16:50 ksplashrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 1426 Apr 14 20:39 kstarsrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 498 Mar 5 20:09 ksysguardrc -rw------- 1 root root 257 Jul 2 16:33 ksystemlogrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 102 Nov 28 2015 ktimezonedrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 225 Mar 4 06:03 kwalletrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 3212 Jul 11 16:49 kwinrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 18 Jul 11 18:48 kwinrulesrc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 603 Feb 27 18:32 kwriterc ... -rw-r--r-- 1 dutch dutch 53 Dec 16 2015 plasma-localerc drwxr-xr-x 4 dutch dutch 4096 Nov 28 2015 plasma-workspace -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 25 Jul 11 16:50 plasmarc -rw------- 1 dutch dutch 550 Jul 3 01:23 plasmashellrc Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the response. 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I'm trying to do some automation on my machine and I would like to have freebsd-update and portsnap ran weekly. I want to send a notification to my X session after completing the update fetch, that new updates are available (updating automatically would not be desired as a good case due to uncontrollable results). But I've came across a problem: fetching fresh ports and freebsd updates requires the scripts to be ran from root, but in root session I'm unable to notify-send anything to my display. I've tried to set `export DISPLAY=:0`, but that didn't work out. Also I've tried to use `env DISPLAY=:0 su twilight -c 'notify-send "...."'` but that didn't work out either. Searching the net also lead me up to the same advances. What am I doing wrong? I'd be very thankful for any advice -- Cheers~ PGP key fingerprint: 07B3 2177 3E27 BF41 DC65 CC95 BDA8 88F1 E9F9 CEEF You can retrieve my public key at pgp.mit.edu. 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[174.30.254.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k186sm6291685ioe.22.2016.07.22.14.12.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <20160722101355.52bad2a2@FTF.FTG> <471b847b-028e-4e86-854a-1a0b1b0a4e04@unixarea.de> <86lh0twljg.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160722192906.GA426@archlinux.localdomain> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Dutch Ingraham Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE panel , how to remove widgets? In-reply-to: <20160722192906.GA426@archlinux.localdomain> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: <86k2gdwf5n.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:12:39 -0000 Dutch Ingraham writes: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 01:54:43PM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> >> :: Brandon J. Wandersee >> :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com >> :: -------------------------------------------------- >> :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' >> :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- >> Matthias Apitz writes: >> >> > Do you (or someone) knows how to tweak the KDE4 pannel, desktop app icons, >> > features ... by editing config files or using command line stuff? This >> > would it make more easier to setup your desktop after new installation. >> >> There is no such thing. KDE is configured entirely through graphical >> interfaces. Virtually no KDE applications have command-line options, and >> I don't recall ever seeing a KDE applications with a man page. > > > It may be different on freebsd, but on my linux installation I have the > following manpages that have "kde" in the name: > Sorry, I meant Plasma and its different interface components---things like panels, KRunner, etc. Although I seem to recall that some major applications like Konsole don't have man pages either. I'm sure there are various text configuration files for KDE applications and components---I shouldn't say otherwise---but then there are dozens of components that make up the basic KDE desktop, as well, and KDE is insanely customizable. The only central configuration is the graphical "System Settings" interface, and trying to configure things like desktop panel and menu contents, Dolphin panel arrangements, global keybindings, or widget placement by hand would be a infeasible. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 23 13:16:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3A9BA1EEA for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel.kessler@posteo.de) Received: from mout02.posteo.de (mout02.posteo.de [185.67.36.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.posteo.de", Issuer "StartCom Class 3 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 778961708 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcel.kessler@posteo.de) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EA6F209F1 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3rxSh12Md6z1043 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:15:59 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Marcel Kessler To: freebsd-questions Subject: Write-Command timeout on MacBook Air 2013/SSD Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:15:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1469279285-sup-1766@Marcels-iMac.fritz.box> User-Agent: Sup/0.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:16:11 -0000 I am trying to install FreeBSD on my MacBook Air 2013 with an installed SSD. Sadly i get some write Errors, seems like the SSD doesn't respond some times. The exact error is: (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0:0): WRITE_FPDMA_QUEUED. ACB: 61 ... (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0:0): Retrying command The installation process will continue, but is pretty slow. The error occours randomly. But often while extracting the ports.txz. When i minify the data which needs to be extracted via excluding ports.txz, doc.txz, lib32.txz, ... and i have some luck, i can install FreeBSD without an error. But the error still occours while using the installed system. The SSD is fine. Works with MacOS, Debian, Arch, OpenBSD, ... I tried diffrent Flash-Drives and even two SD-Cards via the CardReader. I also tried the netinstall. I tried every option in the UFS-settings (TRIM, v1, ...). I am trying to install FreeBSD side-by-side with MacOS (like i always did with linux Distros). I have enough free diskspace. Hope you can help me. Thanks! Greetings From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 23 21:07:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1ABA2314 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C3071F49 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1469308015; bh=Aixdcautth6/hRKA3j1ddb29zRnYpv640ly9uFT6sr8=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=Ik/NMJI67BphUvpGuizvr6wPbMvL3gWLNKZl5wDZVP4hgTamkk7HVBANvQWrMsvEctKJgh4me8cGCT6IK9/LsRjpdmOPHY1fbqyL/r8uQCFYoA6MHdpl8cS0BY3jIqkIRS+PIawYxxTW3snx9cDHZSit8bqs7SuN4lMHL5ACUPLs3pcN8fwruQG6dIGrnmAKqw75iYntZpb2a+4Hw+PoKbz3nrW4yECfHQPhCcbWfYBDNbTWfetZIABJfo8oKRB95a3hNLduLuYk4WrUQCgpxQepJUwbRUDY9cImsuF9110Cjkg0HcbGMZ+Wfb/j9hkV/Zln0Fz0tAuHUewpj8mzVA== Received: from [66.196.81.171] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2016 21:06:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.199] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2016 21:06:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2016 21:06:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 479111.26234.bm@smtp208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EkdKu.wVM1lywt0ieopP6WutUyjMtxUUP6l6KjQeKwqBDOH Ih9NumHAf5kn93KRqlZ8vTqxl2goTt7N5k.Dt2ShXOdYSmVHmXJs_FiCqolI rylHAXG.6yrTtg4xMrFCyCOm6wZ09lqeGgKZazRaduBQ3I7FhrJQB8sS6WLr J9KFtzFtxbxmfaDIT4FVTWVEMuOvV4Evb.cxMIBnj3E6fpMBcGtUfUqt35ze 1CHCrBtZKo5X25HrMQOsooKG8OPMnxtVaLYvnMG.8SiefJs6o2bpsxRnbjMg v0W2CvAR8Xirq.87zuxId1tNNlt8qPmKPMK8g.s5m2R7ahLi.cu0MkHhdwgl b3.o7FKB.Vs711I9BrAwiVW1jmSJ5KOgrznzNxrv8yyIwS3zfsrfoeQSzLfp OTlnfA6IS5pA0TThPnF7WPS6CnH0FN.6XRmqlvEGxJ.dSDt7ImpnxTO0PQCz d8TnDbctmWgqrERZn9vHQdfWduz3f39UjccILM_W4SsjqaqjPiiERY7iBPs9 Y4pmtfgwaAsYXdht1Mw4iJc3vYZPbZW1XJRlokKmmpnhlXDjAoOc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: h3Xqg6.swBC0yI913RMMwp94grO_cg-- To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: pathiaki2 Subject: Fail2ban python regex issue Message-ID: <1b35e652-1540-6eb3-9a6e-47a0cf4ce97a@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:06:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:07:02 -0000 Hi, I'm extending fail2ban to catch things on FreeBSD. Right now I'm looking at dovecot. This is the standard file. # Fail2Ban filter Dovecot authentication and pop3/imap server # [INCLUDES] before = common.conf [Definition] _daemon = (auth|dovecot(-auth)?|auth-worker) failregex = ^%(__prefix_line)s(%(__pam_auth)s(\(dovecot:auth\))?:)?\s+authentication failure; logname=\S* uid=\S* euid=\S* tty=dovecot ruser=\S* rhost=(\s+user=\S*)?\s*$ ^%(__prefix_line)s(pop3|imap)-login: (Info: )?(Aborted login|Disconnected)(: Inactivity)? \(((auth failed, \d+ attempts)( in \d+ secs)?|tried to use (disabled|disallowed) \S+ auth)\):( user=<\S*>,)?( method=\S+,)? rip=(, lip=(\d{1,3}\.){3}\d{1,3})?(, TLS( handshaking(: SSL_accept\(\) failed: error:[\dA-F]+:SSL routines:[TLS\d]+_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol)?)?(: Disconnected)?)?(, session=<\S+>)?\s*$ ^%(__prefix_line)s(Info|dovecot: auth\(default\)|auth-worker\(\d+\)): pam\(\S+,\): pam_authenticate\(\) failed: (User not known to the underlying authentication module: \d+ Time\(s\)|Authentication failure \(password mismatch\?\))\s*$ ^%(__prefix_line)s(auth|auth-worker\(\d+\)): (pam|passwd-file)\(\S+,\): unknown user\s*$ ^%(__prefix_line)s(auth|auth-worker\(\d+\)): Info: ldap\(\S*,,\S*\): invalid credentials\s*$ ignoreregex = [Init] journalmatch = _SYSTEMD_UNIT=dovecot.service I have a line I want to match. However, every python interpreter that I hit says this works.... However, fail2ban doesn't catch the line. The line: Jul 23 00:02:48 dovecot: auth: ldap(valeria,91.200.12.148): unknown user (SHA1 of given password: e557ee1b78fd6978af5ea1f614597f79dc13c40e) I'm trying this: ^%(__prefix_line)s(: auth: ldap\(\S+,\):) unknown user\s*$ What am I missing? There's no error with the interpreter, it's just not matching the line.