From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 14:24:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE453AF68C5 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) Received: from nm44-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B152C10F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1475677475; bh=w5r4USmDoYF0bFv0IVsGn6716iljqIhIbC8pAPqXnLA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=gM0/V62ej4OfW7vNF/uv81M36kjjsiT2XuVaiW1MuflMCN7BvAzXf/lhViAprpBSvqwnvFaWXb2mR2yPjRdzxBZBMCl6+sAjzIP22i1GVY8scP3FA4jKwB7oSTWNT8wtC5VLSUSD2OTBrvPqPILaldBXsdf1vH3WhuXOa1c9muzUDk63GL/5gm3syYflferZMPAdV8TG5MOGQWStStsHraWEzwPI24BPGHN/Hvli2eC2T4bVqo42YMP0guUk7zvRbdpE4LDrtPqfB88aUNel+TLNqR+2uZrowLrTDR7lCISZHGQj3WwgLW4aDPwblfj+bKfF9UVhb9j7dz85mRLLdg== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2016 14:24:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2016 14:21:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2016 14:21:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2016 14:21:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 654593.14541.bm@omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: ckXm9E4VM1lbQOqUhwZlzS.wwzw_26bNn2mx5yIcpBevdmvKamNvCoOG6upzV2W aHiKgCmdlrmJIFmCezyQkERWPhaRC7YQMXrV3HCwqsi5EXg3W9CsKrRi31M3pkRgW0AtuZsrol_k K4OWXVpZeypZIGbGTri3_4EPUD_zJ4tCVxtjFBV12tXXDLvAf63IlJjP9FV10n3Ld6M1S4uQNi.b J5Ng0NDEkCGEx.mwsT8gaq7c8v2KkEUJIe7juNJinuKtjd6W_hqG3AJ_nrYvNpdVloVutbgQBhuv bEeMLZzOd6UY.MpxwfRjgTxe3mQRgknLrkiUcehcYcMSCIX8kMltLRlypeU7nDVJdyH3VsKXuN5X noUpC7qopVLQkQ5d8X8jfH8ggHHXVyjfW4cyQSGB8GeNGO22eZtzZ72f9VZ7.Yx1B1bUmD2fjjtN HpOcm4h4vAhN5SlMOyo1Xi97_rUyRUQNbGBqsXWqKqnvaFA0RsfmLhyUZJCXjZXfVMgV6fe0CUXg L7YV0rIt6JaPNNkibX2Gy3YSAT7VJ8s7_5U5pB_F45B61SQ-- Received: from jws10056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sendmailws130.mail.ne1.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:21:34 +0000; 1475677294.210 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:21:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Jules Gilbert Reply-To: Jules Gilbert To: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: isn't this the worst possible report?? MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:24:37 -0000 Well maybe worse, that the deal with AT&T for the BSD franchise has fallen = apart... Okay, so I have a FreeBSD 10.1 CD-ROM,=C2=A0 believed to be a true copy and= authentic copy. And I loaded it on a computer.=C2=A0 I did this entirely offline.=C2=A0 I a= lso supplied passwords. Then I went online to get packages. Nothing unusual happened UNTIL the machine seized and when I rebooted I dis= covered it would hang and reboot.=C2=A0 A loop. I had done nothing to cause this.=C2=A0 I had not opened an X session nor d= one anything other than load packages such as maxima, cproto.=C2=A0 Nothing= involved in the area of security. I had thought this was pretty much impossible...=C2=A0 Remember, this machi= ne was brand new, I'd loaded FBSD-10.1 on it no more than an hour prior and= had not messed with any of the internals. From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 19:15:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9052BAF6058 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E882905 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from julian-mbp3.pixel8networks.com (50-196-156-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.156.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u95JF0bg050697 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 12:15:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: isn't this the worst possible report?? To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> From: Julian Elischer Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 12:14:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:15:03 -0000 On 5/10/2016 7:21 AM, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wrote: > Well maybe worse, that the deal with AT&T for the BSD franchise has fallen apart... > Okay, so I have a FreeBSD 10.1 CD-ROM, believed to be a true copy and authentic copy. > And I loaded it on a computer. I did this entirely offline. I also supplied passwords. > > Then I went online to get packages. > Nothing unusual happened UNTIL the machine seized and when I rebooted I discovered it would hang and reboot. A loop. > I had done nothing to cause this. I had not opened an X session nor done anything other than load packages such as maxima, cproto. Nothing involved in the area of security. > > I had thought this was pretty much impossible... Remember, this machine was brand new, I'd loaded FBSD-10.1 on it no more than an hour prior and had not messed with any of the internals. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > depending on where it rebooted, it really sounds like an infant mortality problem.. (failure in computer or drive). (brand new machines have a much higher chance of failure than middle aged machines, as all the components burn in.) why is this in 'security'? From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 02:15:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568BEAF6484 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) Received: from nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23C9A787 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1475720110; bh=QRPAuT3FHGwn7cObK9w42e3pYCrMUad/bEOIjioCKIY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=IMVBkCSXGSrnZDByjUaHG53+jMkKI8E1ue+z9eEp74utz4eaWfhiPFpRPQ5DsxZHa4/J9/zp3gHGsC9eTjiSnIR9yp+LN2R3B+Fq4z4oWMajE0hyyORj1uXspl32XpoSRQ1hiIXhclaO2c3c6AdmQYSCNEHWVwr1dEgbaeHxz9/CLua5xwpF1EPe4zieQkD1n6Kj/RsZ8zXh36Hl4T4J9mkYzI67KSyJIIfSPZWAmQIhPfVS5a6S7DCQ+kRQhr5LDFkGAMU96Wp6ccEOrDmRzswTgdN6ScJ8PF0WhTs81wTxCdwelIfrCqkjq8qtqt1CaAfioGsScgXN1oh/xeWHJw== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 02:15:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 02:12:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.167] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 02:12:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 02:12:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 970964.95763.bm@omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: 9sLoj3wVM1l8Z29yvAupt6yQrT0iQapzvFspRLq8S.KFQq77ylczh5yA1EStQpi ZaXkYd2TUXEMhAWAb_Q2xIjG1EngT3ezXBistKm1pd694Yq1SqKAmR3ySTVQzBqEWhVDXvxYuXG9 V4_P9UjF1t_TKqTdEUp9tuV7tmHOoQh.uaCPxpI0j97dZGFOuaYGoi7.hh_jo10JHQd0w3ZEN6Gc iAqCtDtIESSZdF4X9n2_.YLK9s8X2jsnTQVXsDi475RyPYXvCCXIWb7xf0eeKxo6BLtPMmvphwbk _AyMvK28kjnlE_aHrAnoTi80.qHXpNfUVHOh52qvMO3U8_0vsDDuEmjA04SJPhOtrbvzgY91VSdd yL07TpYLsS43jrQCtoSSOw2VkovlEUK_kp7aR.rZXrwX2zG0NeggXIuhh2fXOVPPEJ3uZ6qQWYQg HCpSrX1VMnXerQsA6ykvfb09jYgbI7OFsZkyBkxyxmJMLakNfxq6L6WNQhQIAxtt.rEMcPkcvzAX Irm1lwz8QrVpaLbrypou_76k1jxuFTuRBedTj9wIVW4oh Received: from jws100249.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sendmailws109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000; 1475719945.510 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Jules Gilbert Reply-To: Jules Gilbert To: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put a copy on a memstick; see attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 02:15:17 -0000 See attachment,=C2=A0 Simple program, in C.=C2=A0 Without access to=C2=A0 a= file, it "partially characterizes" it.=C2=A0 (My term for weakly predictin= g it.)=C2=A0 Why is this useful?, read on. But please help me.=C2=A0 These attacks are limiting my work efforts. =20 ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Jules Gilbert To: Julian Elischer =20 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:07 AM Subject: Re: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put= a copy on a memstick; see attachment =20 First, the machine wasn't new, it's more than five years old.=C2=A0 Sorry, = I thought my post was obvious, that the OS environment was brand-new.=C2=A0= Sorry to confuse you. Second, I've been getting hit everyday, everytime I put up a non-CDROM base= d OS.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 No matter the day, no matter the time, (which= makes me think it's not one person.) And why am I in this situation? Well, not that I know the reason,=C2=A0 but I actually do have repeatable c= ompression, except lot's of folks don't believe me. Some in the FreeBSD community have my give-away demo.=C2=A0 What I describe= is available, it's in C and not difficult for any programmer to follow. = =C2=A0 (And, except for the usual fopen/fgetc/similar, the program contains= no API references.) =C2=A0 I'm running off a CD, so I don't have it on the= disk (how do I mount the underlying disk?=C2=A0 I'm running Lubuntu, it's = the disk I had on hand.)=C2=A0 My point, if you ask I'll send you a copy. About my demo;=C2=A0 it serves two purposes. SCENARIO #1:=C2=A0=C2=A0 You are on machine 1, you want a file from machine= 2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This is without wires, wireless, media transfer, it's= all done by guessing, nothing else.=C2=A0 Lot's of people think it's right= 50% of the time, not so.=C2=A0 It's right (this version,) 75% of the time. You have the system PRNG (a random-number generator that is restartable;=C2= =A0 Both the SEND and RCVE machines must use the same key-seed.=C2=A0 How a= bout 1.0? It guesses 'p', where: int p =3D r >=3D d; (The function that does this is called "rdRELATION" in the code, it returns= a one or zero.)=C2=A0=20 Without knowing or having any access to 'd'.=C2=A0 The demo version is righ= t with a probability of 0.75 (that's 75%.)=C2=A0 The commercial version is = correct with a probability of 1. Now if you know 'p', then you can do a lot to infer 'd'.=C2=A0 You can iter= ate, XOR'ing 'r' through a sequence of values.=C2=A0 Let me not detail the = works but instead just say that deriving 'd' is easy. Again, to those people who work on FreeBSD, ask and I'll send you a copy.= =C2=A0=C2=A0 (I just spent a few minutes putting a copy on a memstick and a= ttaching it.) Okay, now it get's deep... SCENARIO #2:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Basically, the same problem, except now the = file containing the 'd' vector of values doesn't exist.=C2=A0=C2=A0 That fi= le won't exist for a week, which is when you'll sit down and write the mess= age to yourself. When you're done laughing... Except we (we geeks,) already do something very similar to this.=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 I'm not kidding. From: Julian Elischer To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:14 PM Subject: Re: isn't this the worst possible report?? =20 On 5/10/2016 7:21 AM, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wrote: > Well maybe worse, that the deal with AT&T for the BSD franchise has falle= n apart... > Okay, so I have a FreeBSD 10.1 CD-ROM,=C2=A0 believed to be a true copy a= nd authentic copy. > And I loaded it on a computer.=C2=A0 I did this entirely offline.=C2=A0 I= also supplied passwords. > > Then I went online to get packages. > Nothing unusual happened UNTIL the machine seized and when I rebooted I d= iscovered it would hang and reboot.=C2=A0 A loop. > I had done nothing to cause this.=C2=A0 I had not opened an X session nor= done anything other than load packages such as maxima, cproto.=C2=A0 Nothi= ng involved in the area of security. > > I had thought this was pretty much impossible...=C2=A0 Remember, this mac= hine was brand new, I'd loaded FBSD-10.1 on it no more than an hour prior a= nd had not messed with any of the internals. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > > depending on where it rebooted, it really sounds like an infant=20 mortality problem..=C2=A0 (failure in computer or drive). (brand new machines have a much higher chance of failure than middle=20 aged machines, as all the components burn in.) why is this in 'security'? _______________________________________________ freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 05:45:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E096BBD3CD0 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 05:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 401E9F55 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 05:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u965infO096855; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:44:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:44:49 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jules Gilbert cc: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put a copy on a memstick; see attachment In-Reply-To: <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20161006163807.Q6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 05:45:02 -0000 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wrote: > But please help me.  These attacks are limiting my work efforts. A lot of people make the mistake of using cheap aluminium foil. You have to use real tin. HTH, Ian From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 11:02:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39654BD36A1 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) Received: from nm46-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm46-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 078F9F5F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1475751769; bh=dShQniFCpVWyzv/AU9sFPdDgQVWjDKs7WcU6jJ/jn9g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=KIRbrc/pu6mxDbExffBnF6WnMz7KFPeanMaHb7XjDXGzYK3d4IMtf8y73KM9UTJ/SHFNdnHMToz+FOpP8xoO3Ui8h89gwBMakSWtd00J2yq9RqECJgikXR74MYez/x7rauFgM/ynBQkn3J2YpUUCL093uQLnyHcE4KtNTRw6LWfv2W5htZ7dkwBBilcoOcLA9o9mupYhiyQ85CLVrcQr0CMg7SSTkrqjqKmIaeD6WiD7esyuSTUNIQ5PaBF3uZDn5cMUfPFoUNEvakDC91HOMSHzypu28CNVhEZ7GrPfHK7V+lGLMTxkFUR6tYmgwaKt+CrmI/RXQtkC2CZmlb+c8Q== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 11:02:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 11:00:02 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.173] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 11:00:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 11:00:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 378806.59345.bm@omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: OBtiCWcVM1m150QlpNBlFxN.K0mpegk5Bv4rlKADWpSYvL7IozX_P7B9iV1BQ1Y ZdCecsRW.ggTEinEDOyUMHNHV6ZkrxMvLF2wltW3p0qa4CPbvXr9ecCXuuS30IW1v9sV2PoyPWZF 0Il07YalW4fyHtoR.r_6QZlMcnEbktmALj_fMTm.LSzUxBl6Wp8BqG4iuIg5f7v.xwlR8ur_0WFv b6ftrDB6s79LwyHpEkVbP.sq6ZlnYW13HA75HrV8zd4eZ21DK_53HHKbfpqTeAcraH96LRiXiVwN OAXJvdHORPsg2IWTieGmf5E9D8OyN_VAsm74tEJhG6vAIwT2w2XJsJ7hXAnK7Lm03XjNs1ly58Op XKmQ8fE1fQccO0MWHM4LwkZQz_iXIENbvv8rys9r_hbSZ0bldlDnZPczMlg659ZCfuk6cKQ1aFVx pXDFKqdkjDOUhwqbH6c79TInkdvSun.AghvTrX2ZR03aPJ0Q._LrAYyXpWj3btrXaWkn4E8GxEF5 ldO3mGAtZ_6Q_wPHtiHAyn8EqyF4AFIXVCM1myw3ML0MzNl741lM- Received: from jws100176.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sendmailws130.mail.ne1.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:00:01 +0000; 1475751601.968 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Jules Gilbert Reply-To: Jules Gilbert To: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <855060341.132670.1475751601497@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1195150513.127955.1475748488750@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> <20161006163807.Q6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1195150513.127955.1475748488750@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Fw: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put a copy on a memstick; see attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:02:56 -0000 =20 ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Jules Gilbert To: Ian Smith =20 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and= put a copy on a memstick; see attachment =20 what is wrong with you, Mr. Smith -- I was hit, I'm getting attacked by som= eone obviously skilled in such arts, and rather than trying to help or if n= ot that, being silent, you're being a jerk.=C2=A0 Why?, why would you do th= at?? If you think my work a fraud -- well, I give away that demo program for a r= eason!, run it, try it.=C2=A0 If it doesn't do what I say then you would ha= ve a complaint, but surely not yet, I posted it only five hours ago...=C2= =A0 My guess, you're just a bully at heart. TO OTHERS:=C2=A0 Please help me;=C2=A0 I blog at: emmettbrownblog.wordpress= .com My current work isn't related tile compression, that's done.=C2=A0 Now I'm = trying to design a Key-Exhange system for passing information to a prior-ti= me receiver station.=C2=A0 In fact I'm working on a demo of modest power.= =C2=A0 I really need the 'net! From: Ian Smith To: Jules Gilbert =20 Cc: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and= put a copy on a memstick; see attachment =20 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wrote= : > But please help me.=C2=A0 These attacks are limiting my work efforts. A lot of people make the mistake of using cheap aluminium foil. You have to use real tin. HTH, Ian _______________________________________________ freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 13:23:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B447BE9081 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-security-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7A4877 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-security-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 53F7C33C26; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 09:18:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "freebsd-security\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put a copy on a memstick; see attachment References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> <20161006163807.Q6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:18:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20161006163807.Q6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> (Ian Smith's message of "Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:44:49 +1100 (EST)") Message-ID: <44zimhy5sh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:23:47 -0000 Ian Smith writes: > On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wro= te: > > > But please help me.=A0 These attacks are limiting my work efforts. > > A lot of people make the mistake of using cheap aluminium foil. > > You have to use real tin. Jules Gilbert has been peddling the data-compression equivalent of perpetual motion machines in various fora for over two decades now. Neither insults nor ignoring him have been effective ways of getting him to go away.=20 From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 13:43:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2295CBE9801 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) Received: from nm44-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5E1E818 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repeatable_compression@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1475761414; bh=yadJJfWeIoQwVbyo3OLoVLfRh+dmlMXc7kia0EaGznw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=ol58BJGlgoWtvbtOeBA0JGjJo/zrvt1WUGsW36SvEtDO+/5JKBBeCwSm3GW49NRg96msdRKyLhBsiaO8oPCr4uQcrIyHd9+Zb1YS4YjSf0OVB2Xkdfi1cZUI5/zQUK1zdnvjhzJya1QP/vttWWT4pNXLeY1+d/nu/NcwhP6mxkgdF4bepijExwZJLNhK7grwyhlfZtaR6hki5wTQBUPakTRIuSi6Pq5wZ0fciSdRr1zlEa+EZ8AmO+GLX62lauqGOyKzPVL6t1pPW+j2Vkfkcdl7oy4b1m0JnxsfLcK4lSpfuIDNw4Jf3ZPN6lDOLyYbLpt5hzhbbwpk1zU8Rib5+g== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 13:43:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 13:40:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.163] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 13:40:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1064.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2016 13:40:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 28525.23066.bm@omp1064.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: o98prs8VM1n_2eR4IJFG.jIEnrg6Z3RObLPPSGEDX45sx8gh4qSTyQiBbYUVlIg LKHKg9Y1Gaqx0QLNUfmqNEcKdGyJbMTtK66XavlvePwJbXvDLBEMd6RZmcWr18sH8FBym7XoFsMd yVK.NxWkGj5GsdJ2tqBECduJDOHE9_44oWL6J8uWjkOj_wVYc.ccEEZ.P25ghuWDta5mbmdD_jq4 mZHe2TvVaSC8Ty8VQaMTAEgjSxcAkG6nQ5l8_G9FFWNOFsh5FpOqVdnwMFrFbRe.Qi7TK5YqLu2W LyBR6oLr4xH8SQVRU1WmGN9y.gbvVAvK8Wc4vFsZGyLmSLI5uxgLAmHGnC3TAyIYUMMcxXK1EWvG f3rt7yA4cqYak2gSjIjV20P.3IkLk4FAn_ZUy7cpKfUImR9VDXr5Wyru1.QRSb2FhY9rRl2Sv4iP XAxhZiRFSxXLgCA8JA5_GeSbUAONvtyNCft425nHtdnWVBwV8rjVmGL_Z7bLPfCICxcGeqL0D5N_ WmDsARDALioOGcPmUlBNA0RAv1Pvixt_kejpgZPLOqja8T8YL15.y4A-- Received: from jws100248.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sendmailws114.mail.ne1.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:40:43 +0000; 1475761243.530 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:40:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Jules Gilbert Reply-To: Jules Gilbert To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <628085999.183829.1475761243108@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <44zimhy5sh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1410500115.6001690.1475677275963@mail.yahoo.com> <307150697.750173.1475719669536@mail.yahoo.com> <1326548497.53590.1475719945105@mail.yahoo.com> <20161006163807.Q6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <44zimhy5sh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and put a copy on a memstick; see attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:43:42 -0000 Have you run the demo program I attached?=C2=A0 Because your remarks are we= ll, you can't tell the turth even on cnce in a row.=C2=A0 I guess you're st= ill working on twice...) Fact1:=C2=A0 Yes I have been involved in compression work for two decades.= =C2=A0 (I wonder Lowell, two decades ago, did you even know what a computer= was??) Fact2:=C2=A0 Yes I have a working system, and because it is pretty novel I = give away the demo.=C2=A0 It does what I say, eg., it predicts byte values = in files that may not even exist at the time the program is run. What the demo does is to predict the arithmetic relation, ("r >=3D d"), whe= re 'd' is a client data value, and it's right 75% of the time.=C2=A0 Since = this is a demo, it does look at the client file, but only to calculate the = match success. And Lowell, change your name!, I don't want people to think you're a relati= ve... This will be my last post here...=C2=A0 I would like help securing my compu= ter -- I've always regarded Linux as the weaker/dumber sibling of FreeBSD.= =C2=A0 But now, to get on the net free of hacking, I'm using a Lubuntu CD-R= OM.=C2=A0 Anyway... From: Lowell Gilbert To: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" =20 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Fw: isn't this the worst possible report?? -- i went back and= put a copy on a memstick; see attachment =20 Ian Smith writes: > On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:12:25 +0000, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-security wro= te: > >=C2=A0 > But please help me.=C2=A0 These attacks are limiting my work effo= rts. > > A lot of people make the mistake of using cheap aluminium foil. > > You have to use real tin. Jules Gilbert has been peddling the data-compression equivalent of perpetual motion machines in various fora for over two decades now. Neither insults nor ignoring him have been effective ways of getting him to go away.=20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =20