From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Sat Nov 26 17:13:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B57C579AF for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lepitbull@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E12781BC8 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lepitbull@shaw.ca) Received: from [70.66.40.61] ([70.66.40.61]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id AgWsciT6Dm7BbAgWucnT8P; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:12:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20150330; t=1480180369; bh=lvl8OWnQBQBfpIwkkRD+9igbSpprU8gBKGrPMoVQNic=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=SW/dqEEyMWY2M9t98Tj4lwSfNjd5y6vq+Eu95mjjpkX/EHpavZ51/X8opy0D4LmDH jBljqlk1XY1cJs4L5XkWJP1S7Eo/rEX6PVXVYKpEXb6khVA2serIAirS4McLQYeL9G ChqlCDbv14MUhg6zTHvxl+WlQpB2xTOXqmwB83zf4N7/4Z7u+B98nD5dDUV9B3FYdt SlveBO7V0pmVs8cqSupG+mk8LRSn+hAmAvpsOMx0/BsxMUUopDkc0LVbXZ1B5suFUU RrU1KOWoQx5A4dkSCjwWQsi8yBZeKKAYGK0aNDVsXcCHQe3ZTDHA29m6GRX/o/oMdl uR+X5Ll6Tsrwg== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=XqWKARN9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=tORxfVIGfU9J2sevdF2WKg==:117 a=tORxfVIGfU9J2sevdF2WKg==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=YeUUszjs-mmhwU_kU7IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HjoDVhQI-83L-P-0XGgA:9 a=wEEPxV9_jpH5yZzt:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org From: Darren D Subject: question Organization: Home Message-ID: <785bd845-f89e-5a00-04e6-f572ba02393a@shaw.ca> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 09:12:44 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCDDZTHW7qghHk4sWx8v+T9yq4DgxFYuQ3giLkIWaFXPaGSZZ3hLZlEPhFTERko0/siktd1E12Zsxx+e4b0PiVs3StDEFb7rjFNFpWlBT8L4u276No0a KnFPffGp/btGV1LRaeq2JPDbviCzqD5W3lYSxpbkBpvgCTNsL6smhrOz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:13:56 -0000 Nov 26 Nanaimo, British Columbia Western Canada Hi BSD, I am a computer user and my Vista is no longer supported (updates do not arrive anymore, a slow system, and new Windows OS's. That is not for me anymore. (I have lap top too running a buggy windows 10), I am totally up with Microscrap and I see I am not alone in this since that new Windows Presentation fiasco. Microsoft is forcing my desktop PC to Windows 10 and I see I will need a new home Computer too for Windows 10. I do not want to do that I still have an IBM P3, P4 and an old 386 too. I cannot for afford that. I cannot work and I am physically disabled as well. A decent PC is an essential tool. But in all it's good see an alternative OS instead of Windows. I want to switch to another Operating system, I was thinking to go with Linux but so many versions are leading to confusion ; Ubuntu, Mint, Puppy, Fedora, etc. I read forums where some users are commenting on Windows, BSD and Linux. I heard nothing bad about BSD and some swear by it and the fact it is Made in the USA and Berkley Computer Engineers and will maybe now give Microsoft a run for all their love of Money - not their users. I have been a one faithful Windows user since Windows 3.1. But new systems and new OS's to keep buying, have all run its course. Microsoft has no more testers and they release all their stuff and let the Chips Fall wherever... I am fed up now, But enough of that, for when comes to Microsoft. I can really start to vent. So will BSD give me back the love of home computing ? Will it be a large learning curve, and will my system be able to use what I do have (Web Cam, Skype) and more. An LCD monitor, Mouse, etc with no need to search for all drivers to run all my loved peripherals, in a duel boot system, Then I can move away from Microsoft, and soon never look back. So when I do visit the local computer Club I could suggest BSD to all who are fed up with Microsoft, and a lot are and still use XP, Vista and 7 (No 8's or 10). My system is as follows. So will it run BSD and will it be better than the Windows stuff and what Antivirus will I need to get or do I need one ? Regards, Darren D. lepitbull@shaw.ca HP Pavilion a1218n (Media Center PC) Operating System : Windows Vista Business 32-bit SP2 CPU : Intel Pentium 4 516 Prescott 90nm Technology RAM : 4.00GB Single-Channel @ 133MHz Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. Goldfish3 (CPU 1) Graphics : HP L1740 (1280x960@60Hz) HP L1740 (1280x960@60Hz) Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family (HP) Storage : 465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0 ATA Device (SATA) 465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKX-001CA0 ATA Device (SATA) (2 Physical Hard Drives and a Floppy 1.44 MB). 1 Optical Drive : HP DVD Writer 740b ATA Device Audio : High Definition Audio Device Bowser : Mozilla Firefox 5.0 Email app : Mozilla Thunderbird 45.5.0 From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Sat Nov 26 19:18:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58220C578F6 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4160BA98 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03C715F2; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:18:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:18:54 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Darren D Cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question Message-ID: <20161126191854.GA32422@lonesome.com> References: <785bd845-f89e-5a00-04e6-f572ba02393a@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <785bd845-f89e-5a00-04e6-f572ba02393a@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:18:58 -0000 I do not know the minimum requirements for running FreeBSD anymore for older systems. However, the "sparc64" bits will not work on any of your systems -- you will need either "i386" (32-bit) or "amd64" (64-bit) installations. You may have better luck asking questions on the FreeBSD Forums (forums.freebsd.org IIRC.) Good luck, mcl