From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 00:55:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FEFCC525E for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA5FD0C for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 37079CC525C; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B34CC525B for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) Received: from tissa.komkon.org (tissa.komkon.org [52.5.170.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tissa.komkon.org", Issuer "Komkon" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F22FED0B; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) Received: from tissa.komkon.org (str@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tissa.komkon.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v150tT0x030460 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:55:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=str.komkon.org; s=mail; t=1486256129; bh=V+5PkGOaDxmrJkTVgLbrjPASQtCDG/cfLKz6WJH4YoM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=m8Ey/JDm1Sj1b6vVlvoqmwMIHC8qoQ8Io/PCQzHHVu8QHFeZk+EAlEgYGZVk+mESM 2iaoOtgc2t9SADgFwbG+y5Jx2ivjuvFUM/yfoU3CGIK7r5QMetGLViNo3ojoVQFWO1 LVhMKojZkAULN+1g4W4jEyoMonHTa2Se1sIIjvto= Received: from localhost (str@localhost) by tissa.komkon.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v150tQbK030457; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:55:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd@str.komkon.org) X-Authentication-Warning: tissa.komkon.org: str owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:55:26 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin X-X-Sender: str@tissa.komkon.org To: www@freebsd.org cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Ports web-interface database is not updated Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at tissa.komkon.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tissa.komkon.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:55:32 -0000 Hello! As far as I can tell, this page's database has not been updated for many days: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openssl&stype=name&sektion=all i.e. results of the query for particular ports (for http://ports.freebsd.org ) are outdated. (I've tried this for several recently updated ports.) I see that the bottom of the page says: Last database update: 2016-01-01 06:08:21 UTC Is something stuck in this database? Thank you, Igor From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 08:04:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FA2CD131D for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460DF842 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 457F6CD131B; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45336CD131A for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38798841 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v15845sZ048048 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v15845sl048047; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702050804.v15845sl048047@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:04:05 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 08:04:05 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ comms/lirc | 0.9.0 | 0.9.4d ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ shells/bash-completion | 2.4 | 2.5 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 08:11:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812C9CD160F; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF46DBF6; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v158BcOY056878 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:11:44 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v158BXRE011122 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:11:33 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v158BXdF011121; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:11:33 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:11:33 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: lang/go 1.7.5 fails to install on Arm Message-ID: <20170205081133.GA11031@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 08:11:55 -0000 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to install lang/go on a RPi and it's failing because cgo.a is missing (see below). Looking through the sources it looks like it should exist but it's not built and there's no build error. Can anyone clarify whether the problem is the port or my build environment? (And, if the latter, does anyone have any suggestions what is wrong?) =3D=3D=3D> Installing for go-1.7.5,1 =3D=3D=3D> Checking if go already installed =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for go-1.7.5,1 pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/obj/usr/ports/lang/go/work/stage/usr= /local/go/pkg/freebsd_arm/runtime/cgo.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 74 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/go --=20 Peter Jeremy --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYlt41XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs07bEQAJMmXn+62LsxC0ybjaTDkouy oaOhc/hoymENcjUqYdIYqmrB4jzYfyZoq4bPc7GZFlKMzX5mfAceZYX7aNkugsZn UgzBtPZqMpqimXwuTlKwD2/ZQ+xHFZ/x7A8F3gzSGQkozA7zUT0gMZeghM/vn7e8 FcscNBeBhHr1DiBAjyZTNjPvHSSmsuwKDzdiU+9ZM6La+hKLWZOm0Y7T5RaHZoRL 8RegSehG6xVyzF5rWKvGsHfsYOKQ2xMr6Hge3CcR7E6f4m7c8VCtnaQSbi5qoUUz z05uGNE6haBP6Sscf2AE9JGfI13UAgMe7FyfIFx4nTyp7PSTqottaMDpJ0Di+VXi okxxso0gqzByeslWlIAjnLpGkbgG3nwzqeMJm/vQYue/BaK6enLr1EsKeoFeLLHg ieOQ14nVxa4KH/GTnRAeM6mw7WCzBT7e7UudwmFwGrb7FxyuUZhbT9IiZ15ilo+T RRDP2VtAbjOeUr6k3DgpBxe5fLMlw+Pxge7zn+MSmszfbOeq2++YTeAE8HbSIcyS NIL0DUMeKSorQdhrDS3IVaLbf3igql8MzKlLnU/j/TNtsYZ+Gtb5eW4cVp6te7Wp Y6KIsZdJkk8og7X5qjoFEzo85glzXRmdv9p5XYHhjBdno5DB+pHxqtQiLeRw6Yio SSsFaga5Bmbkt2TAaEBc =QflP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 10:50:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD42CD25B9 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [195.30.95.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D2E2236 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (aftr-88-217-180-160.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.180.160]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: idefix@fechner.net) by anny.lostinspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E25008963A6 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:50:37 +0100 (CET) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 anny.lostinspace.de E25008963A6 Authentication-Results: anny.lostinspace.de; dmarc=none header.from=fechner.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=fechner.net; s=default; t=1486291838; bh=t1HLSsXARX94GdRvWGA5WzXbazGWHaqDJ8dlBbGp8wg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lRi8DkE0erNU9wTgl+0utF+BMZtSuSR7OKb36WJ4aGEhU1m3k6llHUy7Eiudt5aM3 7qh+vQJEt+fvt/wBlf+0Yu28J4JpTgct5L4kfMzdePvptS1zlkzsMhbyynQh06Ze46 eDEvi+ow2jiA2rXu4idR/2acMl62oxuXuHcR7M+o= Received: from [192.168.0.151] (aftr-88-217-180-160.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.180.160]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD5A9948701 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:50:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: How to see package dependencies (scponly depends on ccache?) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <65bbf996-d0a2-ac78-eaa2-3b7138481b4f@fechner.net> <8637fugu85.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:50:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8637fugu85.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 10:50:47 -0000 Thanks Herbert, Am 04.02.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Herbert J. Skuhra: > % man pkg > % man pkg-info > % man pkg-delete > > 'pkg info -r' and 'pkg info -d'. but I cannot find a reason why scponly depends on ccache. I cannot see a dependency in the Makefile. > 'pkg delete -f ccache' should delete only ccache. hm, this is not really a solution and if I do an upgrade, ccache would be installed again. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 11:18:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22BFCD2CEA for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EF3610D5 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1caKqK-000NI2-Mq for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 12:18:52 +0100 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 12:18:52 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: (Relevant?) article on package mgmt at lwn.net Message-ID: <20170205111852.GD13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 11:18:53 -0000 Hi! There's an article on package mgmt, also referencing the topic of language-specific package mgmt, at lwn.net: Package managers all the way down https://lwn.net/Articles/712318/ -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 13:23:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0477BCD150F for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBCA4FC7 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF4A20681 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 05 Feb 2017 08:23:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=sXOb47VpSxX37rf BSxzU4ObzVV0=; b=vvIY6JJHEDHvU5HLXf/wuDM8II/U1X+W6o4gq6utgIDJU4N ZKi7K0kj0Zt1gUiS5q84bhCdWSj5apr3AlVUIbBWy5/wHHGoWTjy6QXn+2E3R1YO hY9+0dzzRpid4wMkIcNhDSQnj6raQ31G4GvEiLoRnHOwCknnc+9go9/apjk4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=sXOb47VpSxX37rfBSxzU4ObzVV0=; b=uWP05BHgPUlFFjxakupn gZRtFan1m+Em40YsP8u31CRQYgcCyZF+gylau/P5oATXw9HfZXk59qdI6xlycpuG SojtXR7PxpV4k85gMPQGmhQWvuhxSEW5Uc0IVYsm4AcCF0R3hdl2aB7pd6YrqWHP R8zCZzZNRUCxtpya/uy6h3c= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: Cjj6/z3QIB6E8dHfkgygjhYfVwXT5ToICEbV3CfR/qOs 1486300994 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 53F3B241E0 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:23:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How to see package dependencies (scponly depends on ccache?) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <65bbf996-d0a2-ac78-eaa2-3b7138481b4f@fechner.net> <8637fugu85.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <920f2cdb-e540-7115-1eb5-b71bfbb36e69@zyxst.net> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:23:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 13:23:17 -0000 On 05/02/2017 10:50, Matthias Fechner wrote: > hm, this is not really a solution and if I do an upgrade, ccache would > be installed again. does your /etc/make.conf have a reference to ccache ? -- J. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 15:07:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6048CD1561 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 626C0EE9 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id r141so88090076wmg.1 for ; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 07:07:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=N5qlM2bgt47iywpUfovooQqavDkhDQncUncf8S7zO88=; b=eZoB1YO95VnddTN18S5hcmQDWZ65ZKD/jVkMN2qWf14qAcXq1ytjkxknxgKq/9NW9M 9GP6AJ6YxIqw3imuIwZkMk/TA2pzZ1SwjIMMwlZvSYXEOsnEd5HPRLa7psVUVsDfxi0o VddQQaYkdDnrU0DSmobAIcredtZedB7b4Jd4/QFHVPJadMlCKkdk05HIk8lxQzzsSiW1 YrWbQwF+tbchSP3i5gxBbHdI8FuLhI5Nrsn/i2158nkOpOWi260aZZQTY2SH003llPbL E/vuLXJJdljHrW33OYz7Wh7K+fZ7xDRf7bvFVni9ncwDzSQMJtRiedyvU9Lrzcy8T328 rJZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=N5qlM2bgt47iywpUfovooQqavDkhDQncUncf8S7zO88=; b=oPy4WoOLOQKBRLAoUe6TLRULJpGRQYR4ReS215CACyJqpeK2dqIqk4xi056uUcpGK/ SuqngQ1VpilhBZJ06XgFCMTCphr7+Ko+wcsd2LYiVZesvpRzmkUReKyvKJvZjVbVDXAG urr17+BWZpqjuxCAmQPCwhFILduaYkToivZqz7iauamiRSViVVhgYeYZMF2zGDGLxIjD Vq/l8n4ZzpO1SZpcv0kHQl5cKrZZaYDQNF9Z6lK/BFcliiiAQHRBqqf6xqML4JVIpM/B 6A6ssNlSAOIET/m5QQvUb5YH03t6nMAk0gv+bIkh7SCc4e3/X11Yp7KoSN03Daqy99kS putQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJTt2aZMc5wZTyCxq9vDX5ZSIQJEt1TJtb0vF24taAwty0tzveSJRcL7PPoWH6kX+vCdDkdT4890oTGxA== X-Received: by 10.223.177.202 with SMTP id r10mr5581382wra.94.1486307221588; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 07:07:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.143.83 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 07:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Woods Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 23:07:01 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: ffmpeg build fails only if being built as a dependency of emby-server To: Tsaki Stan , FreeBSD ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 15:07:03 -0000 On 9 January 2017 at 23:52, Tsaki Stan wrote: > Hello, > > even though it's one of the dependencies that fails (ffmpeg), if I install > it separately it compiles just fine. I'm not quite sure who to contact. > I've attached the full log if you want to check it out. > > > [root@crystal ~]# uname -a > FreeBSD crystal 11.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 24 > 06:55:27 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > [root@crystal ~]# cat /etc/make.conf > OPTIONS_UNSET=X11 OPENGL XCB FONTCONFIG > multimedia_ffmpeg_SET=LAME OPUS SMB X265 > multimedia_ffmpeg_UNSET=VAAPI VDPAU FREI0R > graphics_ImageMagick-nox11_UNSET=16BIT_PIXEL PDF > [root@crystal ~]# pkg leaf > bash-4.4.5 > dialog4ports-0.1.6 > pkg-1.9.4_1 > portmaster-3.17.9_4 > samba44-4.4.8 > [root@crystal ~]# pkg autoremove > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Nothing to do. > [root@crystal ~]# make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server/ install > clean BATCH=yes 2>&1 | tee -a emby_fail.txt > ... > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_blockdsp_init_x86' > gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:131: ffprobe_g] Error 1 > gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_xvid_idct_init_x86' > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_me_cmp_init_x86' > libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_hqdn3d_init_x86' > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_h264_pred_init_x86' > libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_showcqt_init_x86' > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to > `ff_mpegvideoencdsp_init_x86' > libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_w3fdif_init_x86' > libavutil/libavutil.so: undefined reference to `ff_get_cpu_flags_x86' > libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_pixblockdsp_init_x86' > cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see > invocation) > gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:131: ffmpeg_g] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/ > work/ffmpeg-3.2.2' > ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. > Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to > the maintainer. > *** Error code 1 > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg > *** Error code 1 > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server > [root@crystal ~]# > > This works fine: > make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg WITH="LAME OPUS SMB X265" > WITHOUT="VAAPI VDPAU FREI0R" install clean BATCH=yes && > make -C /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick-nox11 WITHOUT="16BIT_PIXEL PDF" > installclean BATCH=yes && > make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server install clean BATCH=yes > > Am I doing something wrong? > > Thanks > Hi Tsaki, Thanks for pointing this out. I use poudriere to build my ports, so I had never noticed this, but was able to reproduce it today. Any porters out there have any idea why multimedia/ffmpeg would fail to build when being built as a dependency of multimedia/emby-server, but not if it is build directly? Regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 15:21:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B2BCD18DC for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16CAE17A6 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 76c86805 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:21:13 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails only if being built as a dependency of emby-server From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 08:21:10 -0700 Cc: Tsaki Stan , FreeBSD ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Ben Woods X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 15:21:21 -0000 > On 5 Feb, 2017, at 8:07, Ben Woods wrote: >=20 > On 9 January 2017 at 23:52, Tsaki Stan wrote: >=20 >> Hello, >>=20 >> even though it's one of the dependencies that fails (ffmpeg), if I = install >> it separately it compiles just fine. I'm not quite sure who to = contact. >> I've attached the full log if you want to check it out. >>=20 >>=20 >> [root@crystal ~]# uname -a >> FreeBSD crystal 11.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct = 24 >> 06:55:27 UTC 2016 = root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> amd64 >> [root@crystal ~]# cat /etc/make.conf >> OPTIONS_UNSET=3DX11 OPENGL XCB FONTCONFIG >> multimedia_ffmpeg_SET=3DLAME OPUS SMB X265 >> multimedia_ffmpeg_UNSET=3DVAAPI VDPAU FREI0R >> graphics_ImageMagick-nox11_UNSET=3D16BIT_PIXEL PDF >> [root@crystal ~]# pkg leaf >> bash-4.4.5 >> dialog4ports-0.1.6 >> pkg-1.9.4_1 >> portmaster-3.17.9_4 >> samba44-4.4.8 >> [root@crystal ~]# pkg autoremove >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> Nothing to do. >> [root@crystal ~]# make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server/ install >> clean BATCH=3Dyes 2>&1 | tee -a emby_fail.txt >> ... >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to = `ff_blockdsp_init_x86' >> gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:131: ffprobe_g] Error 1 >> gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to = `ff_xvid_idct_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_me_cmp_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to = `ff_hqdn3d_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to = `ff_h264_pred_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to = `ff_showcqt_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to >> `ff_mpegvideoencdsp_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to = `ff_w3fdif_init_x86' >> libavutil/libavutil.so: undefined reference to `ff_get_cpu_flags_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to = `ff_pixblockdsp_init_x86' >> cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see >> invocation) >> gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:131: ffmpeg_g] Error 1 >> gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/ >> work/ffmpeg-3.2.2' >> =3D=3D=3D> Compilation failed unexpectedly. >> Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=3Dyes and rebuild before reporting the = failure to >> the maintainer. >> *** Error code 1 >> Stop. >> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg >> *** Error code 1 >> Stop. >> make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server >> [root@crystal ~]# >>=20 >> This works fine: >> make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg WITH=3D"LAME OPUS SMB X265" >> WITHOUT=3D"VAAPI VDPAU FREI0R" install clean BATCH=3Dyes && >> make -C /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick-nox11 WITHOUT=3D"16BIT_PIXEL = PDF" >> installclean BATCH=3Dyes && >> make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server install clean BATCH=3Dyes >>=20 >> Am I doing something wrong? >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi Tsaki, >=20 > Thanks for pointing this out. I use poudriere to build my ports, so I = had > never noticed this, but was able to reproduce it today. >=20 > Any porters out there have any idea why multimedia/ffmpeg would fail = to > build when being built as a dependency of multimedia/emby-server, but = not > if it is build directly? ffmpeg does have a bad habit of finding headers or libraries in = LOCALBASE and mistakenly using them instead of its own sources, and = perhaps that's what's happening here. Presumably another emby-server = dependency is giving ffmpeg this opportunity. # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 15:48:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07781CD1EE6 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEB3566B; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id 30F5E2461; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, tsakistan@gmail.com, woodsb02@gmail.com Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails only if being built as a dependency of emby-server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20170205154802.30F5E2461@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) From: jbeich@freebsd.org (Jan Beich) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 15:48:03 -0000 Ben Woods writes: >> [root@crystal ~]# make -C /usr/ports/multimedia/emby-server/ install >> clean BATCH=yes 2>&1 | tee -a emby_fail.txt >> ... >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_blockdsp_init_x86' >> gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:131: ffprobe_g] Error 1 >> gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_xvid_idct_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_me_cmp_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_hqdn3d_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_h264_pred_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_showcqt_init_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to >> `ff_mpegvideoencdsp_init_x86' >> libavfilter/libavfilter.so: undefined reference to `ff_w3fdif_init_x86' >> libavutil/libavutil.so: undefined reference to `ff_get_cpu_flags_x86' >> libavcodec/libavcodec.so: undefined reference to `ff_pixblockdsp_init_x86' >> cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see Probably a regression from https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/428896 which would be fixed after https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215401 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 19:43:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12261CD26FC; 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:43:14 -0000 go/pkg/%%opsys_ARCH%%/runtime/cgo.a is in the plist, but for some reason it is not compiled on arm. is it the only error ? On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I'm trying to install lang/go on a RPi and it's failing because cgo.a is > missing (see below). Looking through the sources it looks like it should > exist but it's not built and there's no build error. Can anyone clarify > whether the problem is the port or my build environment? (And, if the > latter, does anyone have any suggestions what is wrong?) > > ===> Installing for go-1.7.5,1 > ===> Checking if go already installed > ===> Registering installation for go-1.7.5,1 > pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/obj/usr/ports/lang/go/ > work/stage/usr/local/go/pkg/freebsd_arm/runtime/cgo.a: No such file or > directory > *** Error code 74 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/go > > -- > Peter Jeremy > From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 20:57:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E81DCD1CC4 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don@zavitz.ca) Received: from mail.zavitz.ca (mail.zavitz.ca [138.197.148.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "zavitz.ca", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D88C61230 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don@zavitz.ca) Received: from [192.168.1.143] (S0106001b21729b7b.cg.shawcable.net [68.147.180.131]) by mail.zavitz.ca (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 154caa45 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:50:32 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Don Zavitz Subject: devel/libcheck Message-ID: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:50:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:57:15 -0000 I just went to update my ports today on a machine, and there was a conflict between devel/check and devel/libcheck. ===>>> All >> devel/check (6/7) ===> Installing for check-0.10.0 ===> Checking if check already installed ===> Registering installation for check-0.10.0 as automatic Installing check-0.10.0... pkg-static: check-0.10.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk *** Error code 70 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/check ===>>> Installation of check-0.10.0 (devel/check) failed ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for devel/check failed ===>>> Aborting update Ok, so I checked with portsmon and freshports, both said libcheck-0.10.0 was a deleted port, and no mention of this in /usr/ports/UPDATING Just want to know what pulled this package in and is it safe to delete it? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Feb 5 22:08:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB08CD2B03 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x234.google.com (mail-pf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E67ECB6; Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id y143so18543361pfb.0; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Zr//R6E4P2B7wBJaa4bU8am4b8XYQHPxh4peFPneX+0=; b=g7pqVAETnvXhJWjL5bWlcyaAw9/fw2Gb+Y4ieaAZ2jN8M3dIc0eY1cXcJn4OdGREoc jq0bv5ahsdLiEZn9jmGKKxMLZmah/0tHWfPnd+QSVUQLYvSBfTZ3AHyhYdTurpk73kHc nsFMwFJgd0bcGLwh+CQOEm4qJ+20A8UqHrx0dujBOIlrgSc5ZKMAI3DOCTmQeuRdCK9K iMTNYSX3hjWfiIbxD97WjWKELMlm0+oY/mkgOeyv1HGjlPFowk56EMW5Peb4oPHHt2V4 vgFf6iH3bkui6gpJqNfY6MkK5hbRQe/yWvohhuPAXhYRtHUe/lAevLYRV1HTUx6uYCtD T+QQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Zr//R6E4P2B7wBJaa4bU8am4b8XYQHPxh4peFPneX+0=; b=HJG4qXXmLzPsGa9iNN0q7lJkTO9RZsGlwyE2Y8Bt/K0PF1DhL/jpwf4rV1scA8rfqM JWQauN39CjRl/BFH5eW8VVgVG0H7CwFTqITqzZHkE2VwDOVyv4HiIMOqQtjVNd8uhOAA 2S61Xtp4g6OiifPjKM1PbeFHeytoWYzugJ2yJvC6JbyYDTHnSIJm9lj2bWr6mmY+d9uA u4GxOYAr4JruV18rkBd1OBah+E2qZg3o1g3Np7g8huYf5PYsEtiuS9hCPTFHhx5a5L/E oqskMSj/GUZu+bPn9oN8oWfzmYkNXGlWKYjeqlxrlhFCYTRNWWdsZMQGUEExdZ649/+y hxoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJGLgX3xXyKuC3jTw7EF6f503VU3DN5Xxk8uQsk6MXDoADtHiLJuODzzX+gRpO4wQ== X-Received: by 10.99.9.133 with SMTP id 127mr113572pgj.216.1486332502055; Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.206] (ppp59-167-111-196.static.internode.on.net. [59.167.111.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 19sm83262596pft.46.2017.02.05.14.08.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Feb 2017 14:08:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails only if being built as a dependency of emby-server From: Ben Woods X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) In-Reply-To: <20170205154802.30F5E2461@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:08:17 +0800 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, tsakistan@gmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20170205154802.30F5E2461@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Jan Beich X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:08:22 -0000 > On 5 Feb 2017, at 11:48 pm, Jan Beich wrote: >=20 > Probably a regression from https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/4288= 96 > which would be fixed after https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?= id=3D215401 Indeed, that looks like the issue. Thanks for pointing that out. Tsaki: looks like it will be fixed soon=E2=84=A2. Regards, Ben= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 00:20:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E96CCD107A for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F335CB3; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([77.182.71.165]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ls7MZ-1cRqlJ3wXX-013tOH; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 01:20:19 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1568E23CF84; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 01:20:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: svn commit: r432796 - in head/graphics: rawtherapee rawtherapee-devel To: marino@freebsd.org, Gerald Pfeifer Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports References: <201701291922.v0TJMlQE038923@repo.freebsd.org> <9c122c71-bc24-0ed4-e671-be49ab06431b@marino.st> From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: <62ff589b-534b-5a31-04bc-792655772e7e@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 01:20:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:T+zuQAWFJRGOIMqrGab3zQn+WDc+y3GasqkF3kadIptDnPeoHDC B85BW/y3Uc5b3E3h/cnQlK8Q5vc19lCt8GtXteIuYYGdFzbJjac5rfQOGscKGbGiof14c1R NsQeA4TJxfdcXP6zjoopyu9wxQ6kdZIacyKs+Ub2Dd803Tp1SR9A7BJkoZDRret8PX+gFAj xOeDmiyHCktqdIkjknANA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:F6esDqfKzQA=:pVp4VUpwqSAKcenfXM4Wy9 fj5v12z2oFDE9vi2ibv1tFhOTvg+DWdm+zvot1WLXhczac7FL/vIyP78T4ojK/aSnSZ3JL3jT /wU/iWMxbe2OoGbDP4d4UpmT3xrtd8lnXvKs7Tajv8b2eb95oSEW6mdIMWxkRsPGvFaGmRQLW B5tEbfHKs1SrVi2/V8Z8RzvhToytZJlgQhQD7gq72vfHAGIIG0YN/Cql4AjFcTv3JNSqxUclX UQET+zSxaNSv1eBhqw43lQnFFx59+uTte38MqFOMZrC9ljYyKkcCgUMiEETpWj2EtpdFrLW6V 5+rLP+x8M0gJLvpIstQ7q8Hj1O2G/dtDESOePT2mTWc9PcDyKeHGIK8Rbl3U1sVGv1y/4ypl1 zjFulBt5zybzkWP5OW7QHhIxASpIWjzLWV0ys6005wAe4Y6IHvDyp3lcKQF8o2HFGj1WEeUY3 0MdVGv7Y2MtxvXVvdFNIH+ZjUnx2W3qtcUcha/hLld+HT0Y+VKu1Gt2MIkU1ZGedon8jPmJDE 8W6uS+tcaO9u7TAK7Rck19ktpMDo0AmvmZdQhBQ9lwYFZMWQZzySQT+lVsjZuhBVPyvv1our7 6ouN6Zip49ENF00uRazf4pvo94D2wCRGC5ehmIs35NzOWnv7bRDISyZYhfY2mFjqaT55EfRLm NGVaUgQfBPNgLKzmlLyEe7hpV4FECy+dV/989wD6WramdQySXtrp2xe6GkqKMeV3VSUwEb3iQ 1y0HK/FhkeBJlUbhC8ZyAbw24ldws/ur5+ZQbzAuMr67lXYCAguoXucBugvIaAcQ1T8KJjXWd oydP2G6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:20:31 -0000 Am 04.02.2017 um 23:47 schrieb John Marino: > > Anyway ... > I don't discourage that coupling OPSYS with OSVERSION is documented. I > think the original idea is that the guideline would "ease in". maybe > we're already there because many people are following it on their own > now. Yes, but what good are handbooks that do not preserve the lore for posterity? :-) From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 00:42:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876B7CD1720 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753FC1789 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 67674CD171E; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EE0CD171C; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2558B1787; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caWtb-0007ls-K2; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 01:11:03 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caWtb-0000SK-IS; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 01:11:03 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:11:03 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "ports" CC: "gecko" Subject: Seamonkey update Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 16:11:03 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:42:52 -0000 pkg today updated seamonkey, now it segfaults,=20 every which way I try to run it. [This is from backup and a rewritten fstab. ]=20 linux-seamonkey also segfaults, first time I installed it. Deinstalled. firefox works only half as efficiently, but passably. seamonkey fails to build with gcc, clang49 or default... vs other times. attempting to fix that with nvidia-driver update,=20 which fails to build, API mismatch... which used to work after installing theolder nvidia.ko and nvidia-modeset from backup, ALSO AP= I mismatch. which I think I used in the past to fix a similar problem... Seamonkey is currently the=20 second most vital part of this=20 FreeBSD Jan 2004-2017 5x > v11 ,,, So the _4 _5 was quite a showstopper.=20=20 Working backup from a day ago was only coincidence. Any one know where to get _4 etc, i386, without reverting to quarterly repo= ?=20 portsmon is four weeks behind IIRC with a developer working on a fix... so= the .txz there are NGINX 502 or some error... Inaccuracies in the above, maybe. Apologies. Rushed today... And sorry for multi-topic most of which I hardly ever delve into fixing so = not really qualified nor time to fix or file PR on...= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 06:29:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F76DCD3580 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D5181729 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cacnd-000PZf-03; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 07:29:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 07:29:16 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Don Zavitz Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/libcheck Message-ID: <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:29:19 -0000 Hi! > I just went to update my ports today on a machine, and there was a > conflict between devel/check and devel/libcheck. It's more that libcheck was moved to check. According to /usr/ports/MOVED: devel/libcheck|devel/check|2017-02-05|Rename to match upstream naming -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 07:37:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234BDCD3CE1; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 07:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 979A71E42; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 07:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v167bYQt064586 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:37:40 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v167bTmg059317 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:37:29 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v167bTnD059316; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:37:29 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:37:29 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Julien Laffaye Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Ports ML Subject: Re: lang/go 1.7.5 fails to install on Arm Message-ID: <20170206073729.GF90481@server.rulingia.com> References: <20170205081133.GA11031@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 07:37:45 -0000 --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-Feb-05 20:43:12 +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: >go/pkg/%%opsys_ARCH%%/runtime/cgo.a > > >is in the plist, but for some reason it is not compiled on arm. >is it the only error ? If I comment that out of .PLIST.mktmp then Go installs without problem and there are no problems running a couple of relatively trivial Go programs. --=20 Peter Jeremy --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYmCe5XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs0tgIP/3Kj4CRZJ1eqwtAPNGPZjbCV 1OBgC3cjowusEQSzA9DnAirdS1YsZvEQ09PkKVL4WoM93UmZfg77XXq9XQHJqAko xI2Atp7eajinua67e6BKs4IW+sMaNYT274oiI43GLYCt363p6PVdzz2f00Ue1TBK uB+7yDob0anrLIzlbg/myJW0I0MV4xHaPAiQqWx9tnDMzmG8ZZzUUum/EpTakHPI omPVsCqWybvLtQpsCqae1GR+84JI+SyH80/AlFWoxMAZzW9CcMNBjWQISJaXkMDW KWRnd8vHQkuJAEvtA43uwFFJz4L6I9rMlc1UKGYpK6GVZMMKBKHvlYxlUKb+L01c XMJ8aihPr4XTmKe5EIBjSsdeWfTEqEzvicZOnyE9hPX3GGw2mcjIWX7tr/6qS65q y1Z9+DHBBs6mmI55cRZmwjZYMfdIUtF7BiAfpkNUvPNwmDd4wc7n0Ph63AM2EuLV n2a4FMcuDmpU59gh4vlSnCIGrJdm/I8+XoeV+S4456t3CakFHFJZkwfvx7gh0L5T oya2e4IPqQnbW4UdkI0O7zuR/4BG/kithwz7SjkpiFRKz7VP1jzoCot2/Ee/2Eb0 HmlCeF8vBiU9UbotlcOpTXhnje/0GSIu8echnnZzR6aUz/aIMVTE3EBs+bQsVO4m drw+08iSxrEeJMj75YQ9 =5PVl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 08:27:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069A7CD1C88 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from dd36626.kasserver.com (dd36626.kasserver.com [85.13.153.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C55511B00 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from phantomias.home.jochen-neumeister.de (p54894E8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.137.78.140]) by dd36626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F05F92E00777 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:27:43 +0100 (CET) To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" From: Jochen Neumeister Subject: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:27:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:27:53 -0000 Hello everybody, I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? Best regards Jochen From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 08:48:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46985CD21D5 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de (fmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1048F6CE for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from um-excht-a01.um.gwdg.de ([134.76.11.221] helo=email.gwdg.de) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1caeVa-000819-9O; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:18:46 +0100 Received: from krabat.raven.hur (79.210.250.118) by email.gwdg.de (134.76.9.210) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:18:45 +0100 Subject: Re: devel/libcheck To: Kurt Jaeger , Don Zavitz References: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> CC: From: Rainer Hurling Message-ID: <49464a20-dfd7-302e-4890-5e4dd6f5cf15@gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:18:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by clamav X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:48:28 -0000 Am 06.02.2017 um 07:29 schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > Hi! > >> I just went to update my ports today on a machine, and there was a >> conflict between devel/check and devel/libcheck. > > It's more that libcheck was moved to check. > > According to /usr/ports/MOVED: > > devel/libcheck|devel/check|2017-02-05|Rename to match upstream naming > For me, the following did the job: portmaster -o devel/check libcheck-0.10.0 Perhaps, this is something for UPDATING? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 08:51:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38871CD2467 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E73EDB8E for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id s186so48213709qkb.1 for ; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:51:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+cvjB7GOm7U1Y8kLeUfabuqMv5oW4nBKiuHs1u3lbDU=; b=R9wYh8b4pMnl7ZprwATGYMYw5PnLVQn/ZUYKXZLUA1mCEN2XjJSttXFk2l4BirZ7t8 80xG0xyaNTnlyoOFxAAw0QOWRNtpwiz9xsMki7DxE8Jhj4bfeut+wTgfbXff2Y7OJzhn XPIlqm2blZmZRfTajyfEJ5auaEEXfmwIFxnkQTNdqILTOiuvYPVdSHSfiyXCYO/6Ewof zs2KE2gvHmDnnt13l8lfht+f6eICrUnXA2SHwccsusaHLjukzjOj5LAWyFXKYTNIilJB YbWH8PIIMpPDzsu5uDQl6lsAR84NzP4bgqgsXym6nz9uosg4o2eQ/mWYGQDai0fdaOi0 RIkg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+cvjB7GOm7U1Y8kLeUfabuqMv5oW4nBKiuHs1u3lbDU=; b=W1MYIpTyPAbn3E6noa3Ya2w5zO4/fUDPr8OJeistpMTokCZEqRzGToZykqHiibmsvk Qyh9OzmqByMRw9eY6KjnLKGROJvp+TVSz3UmnQL3wGoJes5sfrD0rJe+jqng5J5xvtLT CW8X4QsE3XMp1piJw3ttiFGvWKEMy9T07SpiylVbKEKpXxBp7Wq14qoR0ntLnHAE4vsh bJJogHLFg5TskCwDd3q3Uw7Sps8SJygkmPzzTm9xrhqccOTGTd5VGGlpYtOlxkIupTzM GqLwH0i9hXC/ORs58/YeX2lyIusJYk20XLcFo8TSRx5y4SvUGwUs3sOKFrZ3PlXgS0dO DOdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mCu23UFTfNmQgBZGdg3ptKxk/ZiCZnVm880yI822CNX54PUV4cmiX499Ub1VeCsQTaoofrD3B6ccnMRQ== X-Received: by 10.55.102.148 with SMTP id a142mr8766180qkc.33.1486371097136; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:51:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.162.20 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:51:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49464a20-dfd7-302e-4890-5e4dd6f5cf15@gwdg.de> References: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> <49464a20-dfd7-302e-4890-5e4dd6f5cf15@gwdg.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Ladan?= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:51:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: devel/libcheck To: Rainer Hurling Cc: Kurt Jaeger , Don Zavitz , freebsd ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:51:38 -0000 2017-02-06 9:18 GMT+01:00 Rainer Hurling : > Am 06.02.2017 um 07:29 schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > > Hi! > > > >> I just went to update my ports today on a machine, and there was a > >> conflict between devel/check and devel/libcheck. > > > > It's more that libcheck was moved to check. > > > > According to /usr/ports/MOVED: > > > > devel/libcheck|devel/check|2017-02-05|Rename to match upstream naming > > > > For me, the following did the job: > > portmaster -o devel/check libcheck-0.10.0 > > Perhaps, this is something for UPDATING? > > No, UPDATING is for things humans need to do. portmaster should be able t= o figure this out from MOVED (which is mostly meant for machines). Ren=C3=A9 --=20 https://rene-ladan.nl/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 08:57:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17264CD25BE for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5365F1F for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1caf7P-000Pnv-D0; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:57:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:57:51 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Jochen Neumeister Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206085751.GF13006@home.opsec.eu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:57:52 -0000 Hi! > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? > > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? It can happen, especially if the problem is difficult to reproduce for the maintainer/committer. I'm testbuilding print/texlive-base right now. Looks fine to me. So there must be something else involved. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 08:59:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1B9CD26B0 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7572112A for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1caf9K-000Pof-Lv; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:59:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:59:50 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Jochen Neumeister , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206085950.GG13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <20170206085751.GF13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170206085751.GF13006@home.opsec.eu> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:59:51 -0000 Hi! > > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer > > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? > > > > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? > > It can happen, especially if the problem is difficult to reproduce > for the maintainer/committer. > > I'm testbuilding print/texlive-base right now. Looks fine to me. > > So there must be something else involved. Have you seen the pointer to https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212624 which describes that setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 or LC_COLLATE=C seems to fix the problem ? -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 09:19:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6FCD318D for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from dd36626.kasserver.com (dd36626.kasserver.com [85.13.153.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5A4921F for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from phantomias.home.jochen-neumeister.de (p54894E8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.137.78.140]) by dd36626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 413632E004BA; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:19:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? To: Kurt Jaeger , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" References: <20170206085751.GF13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170206085950.GG13006@home.opsec.eu> From: Jochen Neumeister Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:19:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170206085950.GG13006@home.opsec.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:19:45 -0000 > >>> I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer >>> until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? >>> >>> Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? >> It can happen, especially if the problem is difficult to reproduce >> for the maintainer/committer. >> >> I'm testbuilding print/texlive-base right now. Looks fine to me. >> >> So there must be something else involved. > Have you seen the pointer to > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212624 > > which describes that setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 or LC_COLLATE=C > seems to fix the problem ? > Your hint into the PR helps. Thanks Pi! What annoys me a bit: I write a PR, and he is not answered. I have some open PRs of this type. I know we all do it voluntarily. But it is not nice if a PR is not worked for several months. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 09:24:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F73CD3363 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527B1890 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cafXZ-000Pqx-Ve; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:24:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:24:53 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Jochen Neumeister Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206092453.GH13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <20170206085751.GF13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170206085950.GG13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:24:54 -0000 Hi! > What annoys me a bit: I write a PR, and he is not answered. I have some > open PRs of this type. I know we all do it voluntarily. But it is not > nice if a PR is not worked for several months. I agree, but if I look at my own list of open bugs https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=pi%40FreeBSD.org&list_id=157228 I understand why that happens -- it's just that the amount of transactions going on is flooding my capacity to process and react on all this. As hrs@ is also one of the core members, he's up to his neck in other things not related to ports... -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 09:38:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BF2CD386C for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2001:608:a02::33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C85451092 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [IPv6:2001:a61:128c:1f01:dacb:8aff:febf:62dd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: idefix@fechner.net) by anny.lostinspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 814118B2A2F for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:37:56 +0100 (CET) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 anny.lostinspace.de 814118B2A2F Authentication-Results: anny.lostinspace.de; dmarc=none header.from=fechner.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=fechner.net; s=default; t=1486373876; bh=sp/Jxcl/THz9qo1PBDPEItyrxBrvi45Vph4nrFX8yZo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=sPYzHr5UQDIKTm8xnpBRPo8tjiotm+QcutUnsjYFfXlIWbzbL6O4zAQbzTOUqYYWP 4E+9JZ3a1TqhF5dgbuNZWHSSfmiUdFa6VlQnjwfVAeLLYV9VPSjmOnPB9XTIV8U9+a 5ERNwvd9fytStigJfYH2WvaMPrOQzIo6NGiPq4c0= Received: from [192.168.0.151] (aftr-185-17-207-44.dynamic.mnet-online.de [185.17.207.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FA56969198 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:37:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: How to see package dependencies (scponly depends on ccache?) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <65bbf996-d0a2-ac78-eaa2-3b7138481b4f@fechner.net> <8637fugu85.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <920f2cdb-e540-7115-1eb5-b71bfbb36e69@zyxst.net> From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:37:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <920f2cdb-e540-7115-1eb5-b71bfbb36e69@zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:38:00 -0000 Am 05.02.2017 um 14:23 schrieb tech-lists: > does your /etc/make.conf have a reference to ccache ? /etc/make.conf is empty, only my poudiere make.conf holds the following: DEFAULT_VERSIONS=php=5.6 apache=2.4 mysql=10.1m bdb=6 ssl=openssl WITH_BDB6_PERMITTED=1 WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL=yes WITH_MPM=event OPTIONS_UNSET=DEBUG DOCBOOK EXAMPLES OPTIONS_SET=proxy dav ssl ldap DISABLE_LICENSES=yes All packages (build with poudiere on another machine) are installed using pkg. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 10:11:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9702CD30CD for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A04D1BA; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5083C3CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.131.195.205]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v169218r012237; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:02:01 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id v1691qDI020002; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:01:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1691T6v084723; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:01:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Jochen Neumeister cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , portmgr@FreeBSD.org, hrs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:27:52 +0100." Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:01:29 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:11:50 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Jochen Neumeister > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:27:52 +0100 Jochen Neumeister wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? > > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? > > Best regards > Jochen https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/policies_contributors.html "The time limit for a maintainer to respond to a PR is two weeks. After that period, ....." "A maintainer who does not respond to any port issues for 3 months may be reset by any ports committer." ... 13 days from now. https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/ I added CC portmgr@FreeBSD.org https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214665 I added CC hrs@FreeBSD.org in case of some mail filter blockage. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, quoted-printable. http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 10:55:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF225CD3B04 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B76CA1CB0 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cagxP-000Pxd-DX; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:55:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:55:39 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Jochen Neumeister , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206105539.GI13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:55:40 -0000 Hi! > > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? [...] > https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/policies_contributors.html > "The time limit for a maintainer to respond to a PR is two weeks. > After that period, ....." The problem in this case is that nobody suggested a solution, so what does the timeout help ? -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 11:02:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF75CD3D88 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.allbsd.org", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49486328; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-d.allbsd.org (p2027-ipbf1605funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [123.225.191.27]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v16B1T2U015902 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) (Client CN "/OU=GT07882699/OU=See+20www.rapidssl.com/resources/cps+20+28c+2915/OU=Domain+20Control+20Validated+20-+20RapidSSL+28R+29/CN=*.allbsd.org", Issuer "/C=US/O=GeoTrust+20Inc./CN=RapidSSL+20SHA256+20CA+20-+20G3"); Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:01:49 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail-d.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v16B0DLt076548 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:00:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v16B0AWc076544; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:00:12 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 19:59:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20170206.195956.1413994210073827079.hrs@allbsd.org> To: joneum@bsdproject.de, jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org, pi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 25.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Feb__6_19_59_56_2017_876)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:01:49 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.9 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, QENCPTR1,URIBL_SC2_SURBL,URIBL_XS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:02:09 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Feb__6_19_59_56_2017_876)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Julian H. Stacey" wrote in <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net>: jh> Hi, Reference: jh> > From: Jochen Neumeister jh> > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:27:52 +0100 jh> jh> Jochen Neumeister wrote: jh> > Hello everybody, jh> > jh> > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer jh> > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? jh> > jh> > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? jh> > jh> > Best regards jh> > Jochen jh> jh> https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/policies_contributors.html jh> "The time limit for a maintainer to respond to a PR is two weeks. jh> After that period, ....." jh> jh> "A maintainer who does not respond to any port issues for 3 months jh> may be reset by any ports committer." ... 13 days from now. jh> jh> https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/ jh> I added CC portmgr@FreeBSD.org jh> jh> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214665 jh> I added CC hrs@FreeBSD.org in case of some mail filter blockage. I am aware of this PR but I am still not sure of the cause since I could not reproduce it. Does defining USE_LOCALE fix it on your environment as Kurt described in the PR? -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Feb__6_19_59_56_2017_876)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEABECAAYFAliYVywACgkQTyzT2CeTzy1iXwCaAwzlhdDopsXxG5QDsqpItAOt ilkAnR3nXGPATwhapodqXHbzeR0itpYY =L0So -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Feb__6_19_59_56_2017_876)---- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 11:17:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97610CD3FE9 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F1B6AA9; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cahIK-000Pzb-JX; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:17:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:17:16 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Hiroki Sato Cc: joneum@bsdproject.de, jhs@berklix.com, pi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206111716.GJ13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> <20170206.195956.1413994210073827079.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170206.195956.1413994210073827079.hrs@allbsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:17:16 -0000 Hi! > jh> > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer > jh> > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? [...] > I am aware of this PR but I am still not sure of the cause since I > could not reproduce it. In this case, please write a note into the PR that you can not reproduce it. It helps the submitter to understand the situation. > Does defining USE_LOCALE fix it on your > environment as Kurt described in the PR? 8-) -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 11:40:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D7CCD3567 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 868C01560 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FE9781.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.254.151.129]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v16BeUAm017327; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:40:30 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id v16BeLAN020465; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:40:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v16Bdv6j015090; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:40:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201702061140.v16Bdv6j015090@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Kurt Jaeger cc: Jochen Neumeister , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:55:39 +0100." <20170206105539.GI13006@home.opsec.eu> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:39:57 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:40:31 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Kurt Jaeger > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:55:39 +0100 Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > > Is it normal that maintainers / committer will not respond? > [...] > > https://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/policies_contributors.html > > "The time limit for a maintainer to respond to a PR is two weeks. > > After that period, ....." > > The problem in this case is that nobody suggested a solution, so > what does the timeout help ? Purpose of Timeouts is to remove a Maintainer that is not responding &/or maintaining. Timeout works in my experience, eg I've both been removed from port[s] when not having time to respond & maintain, & on other ports after MAINTAINER= was zeroed out, I've been invited to become Maintainer, which put pressure on me spend more time researching & finding a solution. Zeroing out a Maintainer invites entire ports user base to volunteer for that port, & saves a Maintainer being further pestered for something they simply have no further time to maintain, & saves Ports Mgr & users writing enquiries for all eternity. > > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, quoted-printable. http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 12:36:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AA9CCF198 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from fmailer.gwdg.de (fmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A51D190C for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from um-excht-a01.um.gwdg.de ([134.76.11.221] helo=email.gwdg.de) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1caiXK-00019D-RD; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:36:50 +0100 Received: from krabat.raven.hur (79.210.250.118) by email.gwdg.de (134.76.9.210) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:36:50 +0100 Subject: Re: devel/libcheck To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=c3=a9_Ladan?= References: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> <49464a20-dfd7-302e-4890-5e4dd6f5cf15@gwdg.de> CC: Kurt Jaeger , Don Zavitz , freebsd ports From: Rainer Hurling Message-ID: <73899cc6-419d-0641-d507-fc53e9030a9f@gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:36:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by clamav X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:36:54 -0000 Hi René, Am 06.02.2017 um 09:51 schrieb René Ladan: > 2017-02-06 9:18 GMT+01:00 Rainer Hurling >: > > Am 06.02.2017 um 07:29 schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > > Hi! > > > >> I just went to update my ports today on a machine, and there was a > >> conflict between devel/check and devel/libcheck. > > > > It's more that libcheck was moved to check. > > > > According to /usr/ports/MOVED: > > > > devel/libcheck|devel/check|2017-02-05|Rename to match upstream naming > > > > For me, the following did the job: > > portmaster -o devel/check libcheck-0.10.0 > > Perhaps, this is something for UPDATING? > > No, UPDATING is for things humans need to do. portmaster should be able > to figure this out from MOVED (which is mostly meant for machines). Of course, I know this about UPDATING. In this case with devel/check, the automatism with portmaster does not work as expected, at least for Don and me. Shouldn't portmaster, after a successful build of devel/check, first deinstall libcheck and than install check? For some reason, this seems not to work as expected. When portmaster tries to install devel/check, it conflicts with a present /usr/local/bin/checkmk, because libcheck was not uninstalled before. I have no clue about the underlying reasons. Rainer > > René > -- > https://rene-ladan.nl/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 14:04:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84E2CD2579 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.wright@gmx.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF2518EF for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.wright@gmx.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 973CBCD2578; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DDDCD2577 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.wright@gmx.net) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 138AA18EE for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon.wright@gmx.net) Received: from [192.168.79.187] ([112.198.73.2]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2cDB-1cKS651rvh-00sNQA for ; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:03:57 +0100 From: Simon Wright Subject: Bug 215153: sysutils/apcupsd, change default options to enable SNMP driver To: ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <40773023-be65-2517-a028-9d1ab79d2385@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 22:03:52 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms010306000507080905060406" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:s6ng19RHqS8k1Uxy+EpWoB0rV1jxbxk+TJpacFxou1uEGvu3wgm IZ0GjTTatQaFpF8pIQ5cLwrijL+rSQRoeSkDhPcF94IEQR6hPJVi44sDQfHq6F1ox2F+owD gjwC+lQwi37TOhMpA/7TbY8NHdBMYi0Ixt3R9cLCeccuvUe+8mCMGmYkaf9m2qgLB5I3clH 3mFWF3HlDPonQ4Jnju9ow== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:uJwI4B4u7EI=:11VEiw6Ni/iaOKkNrmywql GN4C7WaG7ZwPRtjIZ27js0kD62mj2MgB/kdcnENtRJorZbvfX6L7lfoQsScGDiQtNp7o0sz23 xzqnTMrdewKaSrx0B8mCiFit4CwnLVAMhgc7EQ+7w2tfJB2Gmar2McpCyYnOqogRxJ65rUlJc 5Qa+KWWzbAmsQ1dJFTYAp97BK69rL5ateRsKvmWGKdW0XUjU17MjKYnHW8aWZMOh3mXOgOoWf o9l19kbs1ZP73OEyEc+Z6eySs8CAK4TIwUQrCYrfXObX8FQrYTJ64BnnxfnaOYiPULmJ4VV58 Gqu8Q7uvE2iDBDgwtGwl3xDxwyekOB62BObRZ7Pvzieww9iVBAhZyaUceGO9qQbrWDYCnL6Zh G6fPaeo4ZrczmgAnoEqZpcMpI7MuE+fm1qI1sfbNHG+F9tlyUJXb/YoSJyBQG5jSvZdGMiWEX gGeMMKBsGM8YGufqMChMhHbEPdoME0GdOCzIdEXtnjo8F/xjN48CM6X29fdbQ6/5VZmj8m0JE LDPyx6MitXHfiSp73MRUSbJ7wKjrfYi3GkjrRWlxA1NRneqGvFlx3s+2+n6DYtJAArquaRJ6p NVHPW8rPLZxMu9/vnDIL5Ek21YxiINjBBgH3F3gZcm47pZpw4Yi0oJscKz8YVJhKuw1S663gr 7TCWAPGHu7flzuLFLXHmQHHhJRHTE2ujgnEp8l9aaTE4wdnToUwRixnTP6QE8EVQEFZePwBJ0 HdWcGp8kI7AU7MSWFyq3eOq52hRVLcYPbODB1rlyNVxF5dYPzwBJJ5mAD8Q= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 14:04:01 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010306000507080905060406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I requested this change to sysutils/apcupsd so that it will be=20 possible to access/control/monitor UPS's across the network out of=20 the box. At present due to the SNMP driver not being enabled in the=20 default settings this is not possible. The maintainer has not responded to the bug or follow-up mails.=20 Would any committer be able to look at this suggestion and the=20 included patch? Any feedback appreciated. 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ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F34C021C; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdports@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ares.cloudzeeland.nl (ares.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.32]) by ares.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01ED4FE7E02; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:22:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.40] (styx.zeeland24.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ares.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F14A4FE7E0A; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:22:43 +0100 (CET) From: Jos Chrispijn Subject: /usr/ports/devel/check Port upgrade fails To: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:22:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ares.cloudzeeland.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 14:22:47 -0000 Dear port maintainer, Just upgrading my ports and get the following error: --- cut --- ===> Installing for check-0.10.0 ===> Checking if check already installed ===> Registering installation for check-0.10.0 as automatic Installing check-0.10.0... pkg-static: check-0.10.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk *** Error code 70 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/check *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/check ===>>> Installation of check-0.10.0 (devel/check) failed ===>>> Aborting update --- cut --- can you plstell me how to solve? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 15:15:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13A4CD3A2E for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A33E8319; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cal0P-0000RF-E9; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:15:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:15:01 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/devel/check Port upgrade fails Message-ID: <20170206151501.GK13006@home.opsec.eu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:15:02 -0000 Hi! > ===> Installing for check-0.10.0 > ===> Checking if check already installed > ===> Registering installation for check-0.10.0 as automatic [...] > can you plstell me how to solve? Thanks! Please look for the other mail thread a few hours ago, see: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107030.html -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 15:44:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB43CD36AE for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A92B81A5B; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1calRx-000P0l-BP; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:43:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:43:29 -0700 From: The Doctor To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/devel/check Port upgrade fails Message-ID: <20170206154329.GA79815@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:44:38 -0000 On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 03:22:44PM +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Dear port maintainer, > > Just upgrading my ports and get the following error: > > --- cut --- > > ===> Installing for check-0.10.0 > ===> Checking if check already installed > ===> Registering installation for check-0.10.0 as automatic > Installing check-0.10.0... > pkg-static: check-0.10.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files > into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk > *** Error code 70 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/check > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/check > > ===>>> Installation of check-0.10.0 (devel/check) failed > ===>>> Aborting update > > --- cut --- > > can you plstell me how to solve? Thanks! > I too am getting the same issue. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism God is dead! Yahweh lives! Jesus his only begotten Son is the Risen Saviour!! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 16:01:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4788BCD3A2A for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3466C313 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3016ECD3A28; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F941CD3A27; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8D09312; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caljN-0002gG-2Y; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:01:29 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caljN-0007Rw-0Z; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:01:29 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:01:28 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "ports" CC: "current" Subject: Re: Seamonkey update Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:01:28 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <22679.52207.6914.639479@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:01:33 -0000 On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:05:51 -0500, roberthuff@rcn.com wrote: >=20 > Jeffrey Bouquet writes: >=20 > > pkg today updated seamonkey, now it segfaults,=20 > > every which way I try to run it. >=20 > I am running SeaMonkey 2.46_5 (compiled today) under: >=20=09 > FreeBSD 11.0-RC2 #0 r304729: Wed Aug 24 06:59:03 UTC 2016 amd64 >=20 > . > So far, indistinguishable from _4. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Respectfully, >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff More progress but not so encouraging. Rebuilt the machine on which seamonkey segfaulted, to v12-CURRENT=20 .............. seamonkey still segfaults after _4 _5 [ a showstopper for the v11 OR v12 desktop on that disk ]=20 /usr/bin/cc segfaults, prohibiting port building after installworld [ a showstopper for v12 on that disk ] pkg -vv reports v11 FreeBSD.conf=20 containing FreeBSD:12:x86:32, containing /${ABI}/, containing FreeBSD:12:i386 each error out in some manner or another, making package not usable. [a showstopper for pkg usage on that disk ] Firefox prohibits 2 entry anywhere, so I cannot log into the forums as jb_fvwm2 on the newer machine to inquire there, not use most any search query containing the numeric digit(s) 2 and at least two others. [ a showstopper for firefox usage on that disk ] ................. None of these 4 problems were present on Feb 4 vs by the morning of today F= eb 6... From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 17:05:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DBCCD3E1A for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.grem.de (outcast.grem.de [213.239.217.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D72DBDEA for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: (qmail 8197 invoked by uid 89); 6 Feb 2017 17:05:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bsd64.grem.de) (mg@grem.de@194.97.158.70) by mail.grem.de with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2017 17:05:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:05:39 +0100 From: Michael Gmelin To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: cmake release builds don't disable assertions (NDEBUG) Message-ID: <20170206180539.43e98408@bsd64.grem.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:05:51 -0000 While debugging an unexpected assertion problem, I noticed that ports using cmake don't set -NDEBUG, even when building in Release mode. Is this intentional? 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[148.251.53.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y97sm14132845wmh.24.2017.02.06.09.40.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:40:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:40:06 +0100 From: Kirill Ponomarev To: Rainer Hurling Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Ladan , Kurt Jaeger , freebsd ports , Don Zavitz Subject: Re: devel/libcheck Message-ID: <20170206174006.GA78642@vein> References: <3df61113-0150-d487-a32b-7041d5ebd99f@zavitz.ca> <20170206062916.GE13006@home.opsec.eu> <49464a20-dfd7-302e-4890-5e4dd6f5cf15@gwdg.de> <73899cc6-419d-0641-d507-fc53e9030a9f@gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73899cc6-419d-0641-d507-fc53e9030a9f@gwdg.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:40:53 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/06, Rainer Hurling wrote: > > Perhaps, this is something for UPDATING? > >=20 > > No, UPDATING is for things humans need to do. portmaster should be able > > to figure this out from MOVED (which is mostly meant for machines). >=20 > Of course, I know this about UPDATING. >=20 > In this case with devel/check, the automatism with portmaster does not > work as expected, at least for Don and me. >=20 > Shouldn't portmaster, after a successful build of devel/check, first > deinstall libcheck and than install check? >=20 > For some reason, this seems not to work as expected. When portmaster > tries to install devel/check, it conflicts with a present > /usr/local/bin/checkmk, because libcheck was not uninstalled before. >=20 > I have no clue about the underlying reasons. It should definitely be in UPDATING, with portmaster example if portmaster can't handle it by its update (and it seems it can't handle it with 'portmaster -a') K. --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEJCHRFhEAQujKni1pDyI9/LMCykUFAliYtPQACgkQDyI9/LMC ykXIqgf6A6Z0wwah1LrudvmlBBU4iEkIiLH0+hUSWeBd+qWDgXo6ZjAnV2bAvNVL 85S7xUegFbae16svU9CrAqzUzDTazwPv8DivemeSNKaqDI1xNRqqdadgmD7e50kA KJfKWg/3LOIlgA1KHtSj2NlULzeR86/v5oTYg2SEF/EBJH30SsecNo8G3YrGO25m Nldw49qLWXmHQp7q6/tewLMHFCVkKooBU6eB/MFV0ElptjRMFdG2ovlq36El1mvZ 2AuSmdcF1tHAXPP/utePa6FUQlaVaIRNt4z6CcOhMIgMIKBgHr6krNGYRLJiZEBO 6gBAn8v6RJhcA+uJUsyqbjpPocH3Sw== =7UKy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 18:45:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F49CCD3745 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdports@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ares.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E32F72; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdports@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from ares.cloudzeeland.nl (ares.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.32]) by ares.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DD44FE7E03; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 19:45:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.40] (styx.zeeland24.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ares.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6ECFA4FE7E02; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 19:45:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: /usr/ports/devel/check Port upgrade fails To: Kurt Jaeger References: <20170206151501.GK13006@home.opsec.eu> Cc: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 19:45:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170206151501.GK13006@home.opsec.eu> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ares.cloudzeeland.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 18:45:20 -0000 Hi Kurt, Op 6-2-2017 om 16:15 schreef Kurt Jaeger: > Please look for the other mail thread a few hours ago, see: > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2017-February/107030.html Sorry, I have overseen that one - it worked for me. Keep up the good work, Jos From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 20:37:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C76CD3C1D for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.allbsd.org", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 019281BFE; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-d.allbsd.org (p2027-ipbf1605funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [123.225.191.27]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v16KajKO032406 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) (Client CN "/OU=GT07882699/OU=See+20www.rapidssl.com/resources/cps+20+28c+2915/OU=Domain+20Control+20Validated+20-+20RapidSSL+28R+29/CN=*.allbsd.org", Issuer "/C=US/O=GeoTrust+20Inc./CN=RapidSSL+20SHA256+20CA+20-+20G3"); Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:37:04 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail-d.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v16KZTwx092314 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:35:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v16KZPLT092306; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:35:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 05:27:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20170207.052701.822941695729815574.hrs@allbsd.org> To: lists@opsec.eu Cc: joneum@bsdproject.de, jhs@berklix.com, pi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20170206111716.GJ13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> <20170206.195956.1413994210073827079.hrs@allbsd.org> <20170206111716.GJ13006@home.opsec.eu> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 25.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Tue_Feb__7_05_27_01_2017_002)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Tue, 07 Feb 2017 05:37:08 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.9 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, QENCPTR1,URIBL_SC2_SURBL,URIBL_XS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:37:24 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Feb__7_05_27_01_2017_002)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Jaeger wrote in <20170206111716.GJ13006@home.opsec.eu>: li> Hi! li> li> > jh> > I have opened the PR 214665 on 19.11.2016. No reaction of the maintainer li> > jh> > until today. He also does not react to e-mails. What else can I do? li> [...] li> > I am aware of this PR but I am still not sure of the cause since I li> > could not reproduce it. li> li> In this case, please write a note into the PR that you can li> not reproduce it. It helps the submitter to understand the situation. Okay, I will do it more actively. Honestly I was leaning to working on upgrading TeXLive-related ports to the latest version instead of fixing issues which I could not reproduce but it has taken a longer time than I expected... -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Feb__7_05_27_01_2017_002)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEABECAAYFAliY3BUACgkQTyzT2CeTzy23GwCeNROsOc3Q7xbIBPDC5xEIAANL 6YUAnijhaesu8z+wVKVcgck2/Oyce6xF =Cfjd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Feb__7_05_27_01_2017_002)---- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 20:43:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CA8CD3E45 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D0CB1F82; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 20:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1caq8R-00015e-7m; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 21:43:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 21:43:39 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Hiroki Sato Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No reaction - what can I do? Message-ID: <20170206204339.GM13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <201702060901.v1691T6v084723@fire.js.berklix.net> <20170206.195956.1413994210073827079.hrs@allbsd.org> <20170206111716.GJ13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170207.052701.822941695729815574.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170207.052701.822941695729815574.hrs@allbsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:43:37 -0000 Hi! > li> [...] > li> > I am aware of this PR but I am still not sure of the cause since I > li> > could not reproduce it. > li> In this case, please write a note into the PR that you can > li> not reproduce it. It helps the submitter to understand the situation. > Okay, I will do it more actively. Honestly I was leaning to working > on upgrading TeXLive-related ports to the latest version instead of > fixing issues which I could not reproduce but it has taken a longer > time than I expected... I found, in the past, that if I can not reproduce something, if I then just add a "can not reproduce, please add more details" to a PR, that helps to get it closer to a solution -- because the reporter will try to add details and might find a solution himself. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! 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[62.195.200.241]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b8sm3696146wrb.17.2017.02.06.13.28.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: Raphael Kubo da Costa From: Raphael Kubo da Costa To: Michael Gmelin Cc: "freebsd-ports\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: cmake release builds don't disable assertions (NDEBUG) References: <20170206180539.43e98408@bsd64.grem.de> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:27:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170206180539.43e98408@bsd64.grem.de> (Michael Gmelin's message of "Mon, 6 Feb 2017 18:05:39 +0100") Message-ID: <86wpd3t3h6.fsf@orwell> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 21:28:30 -0000 Michael Gmelin writes: > While debugging an unexpected assertion problem, I noticed that ports > using cmake don't set -NDEBUG, even when building in Release mode. > > Is this intentional? Is it the software you're porting that checks for DEBUG or some library it uses? CMake code should check for CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE and adjust the compiler flags accordingly (if at all); so if the software itself is checking for DEBUG but not passing (or omitting it) I'd say the bug is there, not in Mk/Uses/cmake.mk. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 22:53:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF1FCD39B8 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 22:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.grem.de (outcast.grem.de [213.239.217.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B42813B9 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 22:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: (qmail 11990 invoked by uid 89); 6 Feb 2017 22:53:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bsd64.grem.de) (mg@grem.de@93.104.86.174) by mail.grem.de with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2017 22:53:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 23:53:29 +0100 From: Michael Gmelin To: Raphael Kubo da Costa Cc: "freebsd-ports\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: cmake release builds don't disable assertions (NDEBUG) Message-ID: <20170206235329.2952f667@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <86wpd3t3h6.fsf@orwell> References: <20170206180539.43e98408@bsd64.grem.de> <86wpd3t3h6.fsf@orwell> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:53:34 -0000 On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:27:01 +0100 Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: > Michael Gmelin writes: > > > While debugging an unexpected assertion problem, I noticed that > > ports using cmake don't set -NDEBUG, even when building in Release > > mode. > > > > Is this intentional? > > Is it the software you're porting that checks for DEBUG or some > library it uses? > > CMake code should check for CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE and adjust the compiler > flags accordingly (if at all); so if the software itself is checking > for DEBUG but not passing (or omitting it) I'd say the bug is there, > not in Mk/Uses/cmake.mk. Well, cmake.mk overwrites the meaning of CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE with the content of CXXFLAGS, are you sure that doing this is the right thing to do? I sampled a couple of smaller projects that use cmake in the ports tree and it seems like many projects don't do anything special to prevent assertions or debug code when built using CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release, which makes me think that the authors depend on the default behaviour of cmake, which includes "-NDEBUG" in Release mode (AFAIK default flags for build types are also compiler and platform dependent, so it kind of makes sense to rely on the defaults, doesn't it?). Thanks, -m -- Michael Gmelin From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 6 23:28:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A56ECB4128 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 23:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CB6539C for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 23:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id c85so25043794wmi.1 for ; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:28:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cordula-ws.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=to:cc:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DO4ZzjNOvxmKf/HnnyFRtqKnxRVUhp7boYLTwjmP/GI=; b=BDaepF26q2UPpAwKt8jSvheoylAPmjTgI4LrUtCnf/nITTcm2S4PezftiD+MMotWXO YdSOvbWbXe0mVLcSZq3HSXlZCHu/LSyanjYkP/n2mMmzbd5+W7FkVM+RIZnX1UFjPW3E P704805CtCSwsCUfMzXejVUmMCo57xUBnvsAa3f0ZhXXzPEgMo7xEvH+X8rGFTZuci0+ c+oF59haZQOztyymbvt9CVOqdCPUiSlBawCegc79I4dPbe2iXnMoG/s22RIzWtmsNvJ5 ddQx1i7wD0NT6ZjxJwN7gFmvXbynHMrBSXJmAQPijrp3Q1IOBnPeII2iDZcdAVw55oe4 B16w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:cc:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DO4ZzjNOvxmKf/HnnyFRtqKnxRVUhp7boYLTwjmP/GI=; b=gAXUhmqDgV7TiN2YZvnrZ+hLDhhlSUcSI/JXrSDt7Q/31Fg7IoZYPMb0l6yDCHzFuM 0A6vaULfTW31o6CfF7UmrZectOrEZZcI2UibfcscSlzmBd2C7YrvNxmBm2zJCJ5Aac2Y SehoBurbaAuJbhtkJaAPiVbJFNRUJbi/q/gVevNu4P421SpuREoqpiHt6xz0/E5CEvKl qyPYVxm+un7mZG3oIidJoaIujYp0PmqmVFjLuPNCu5kS6oGiTdYjVSh/AewfF+7+yT7V T7BhwlAxvzEse3CHowOUeN1v+GZI5xc9/vHB1GXYa2n87joHCq3yWywvsCQheQge9WwQ ly2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lGyOr68qcj+GVjE/Vm7MaQhXwuer0aZdg/wQ4J+TKJIoedI17GOBwkMm1I1gXbsQ== X-Received: by 10.28.132.2 with SMTP id g2mr9947568wmd.103.1486423698826; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from phenom.fritz.box (p54ACA3FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [84.172.163.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e74sm15590848wmd.2.2017.02.06.15.28.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" From: cpghost Subject: Tahoe-LAFS on FreeBSD? Message-ID: <1bf4b614-bd29-5297-78b7-09edd96cf06d@cordula.ws> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 00:28:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 23:28:21 -0000 Hello, is there someone working on a port of Tahoe-LAFS [1,2,3] for FreeBSD? Or maybe there is one already and I'm blind? [1]: https://eprint.iacr.org/2012/524.pdf [2]: https://github.com/tahoe-lafs/tahoe-lafs [3]: http://tahoe-lafs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 01:35:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE2CCD366B for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 01:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA1AEE9 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 01:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 75C15CD3667; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 01:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BE8CD3664; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 01:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A9F8EE4; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 01:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cauge-0001lc-8Q; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 02:35:16 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cauge-0002jt-79; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 02:35:16 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:35:16 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "pkg" CC: "ports" , "current" Subject: 12-CURRENT won't configure to download packagesite.txz yet Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:35:16 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:35:25 -0000 All the files /etc/FreeBSD.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf I edit time after time for {$ABI} which gives FreeBSD:11:i386 but I am on 12-CURRENT i386 Anytime I try to attune to freebsd:12:x86:32 or FreeBSD:12:i386 ... it downloads the packagesite again, as it does in the ABI example, but a te= rse error of wrong architecture, etc, and a fail to do anything to upgrade to = Pkg-12. Can the proper file be rename upstream to what its architecture in simpler = terms: like packagesite-i386-12.txz and a message printed upon de-TXZ the file so = that the proper nomenclature is given to put into each of those three files above so that the generic packagesite.txz will not error out upon download? Or, put the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING ?? since it is part of base?= =20 Or some other way to de-showstopper this v11 April 2016 CURRENT to v12 Feb = 2017 CURRENT upgrade which still has failed to enable seamonkey-2.46_5 to run non-segfau= lt [ ie cannot run ] vs seamonkey-2.46_4 which four days ago ran without EVER segfaulting?? And= cannot build from ports for obscure .h clang-header file related reasons?=20= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 05:59:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD62FCD27EE for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9471165 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A48CFCD27EB; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A36CD27E7; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (mx1.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B62F1162; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.59.59.57] (unknown [91.183.237.24]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3694013105; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 05:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 06:59:02 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: 12-CURRENT won't configure to download packagesite.txz yet To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com,pkg CC: ports ,current From: Allan Jude Message-ID: <4CC6808A-6F3C-4559-8663-4A493EEA2F64@FreeBSD.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 05:59:13 -0000 On February 7, 2017 2:35:16 AM GMT+01:00, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: >All the files > >/etc/FreeBSD=2Econf >/usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD=2Econf >/usr/local/etc/pkg=2Econf > >I edit time after time for >{$ABI} which gives FreeBSD:11:i386 but I am on 12-CURRENT i386 >Anytime I try to attune to >freebsd:12:x86:32 or >FreeBSD:12:i386 =2E=2E=2E >it downloads the packagesite again, as it does in the ABI example, but >a terse >error of wrong architecture, etc, and a fail to do anything to upgrade >to Pkg-12=2E > >Can the proper file be rename upstream to what its architecture in >simpler terms: >like packagesite-i386-12=2Etxz and a message printed upon de-TXZ the file >so that >the proper nomenclature is given to put into each of those three files >above >so that the generic packagesite=2Etxz will not error out upon download? >Or, put the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING ?? since it is part of >base?=20 > > >Or some other way to de-showstopper this v11 April 2016 CURRENT to v12 >Feb 2017 CURRENT >upgrade which still has failed to enable seamonkey-2=2E46_5 to run >non-segfault [ ie cannot run ] >vs seamonkey-2=2E46_4 which four days ago ran without EVER segfaulting??= =20 >And cannot build >from ports for obscure =2Eh clang-header file related reasons?=20 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-current@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" Please provide the output of: uname -a uname -K uname -U --=20 Allan Jude From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 07:41:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8AECD41FA for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niklas.blomdalen@lop.se) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D391F17 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niklas.blomdalen@lop.se) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9090ACD41F9; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9024CCD41F8 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niklas.blomdalen@lop.se) Received: from smtp2.i8t.com (smtp2.i8t.com [IPv6:2a03:6f20::a247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAAE71F13 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niklas.blomdalen@lop.se) Received: from i8t.com (unknown [94.247.173.144]) by smtp2.i8t.com (Halon) with ESMTP id c68e3d6c-ed08-11e6-be06-0050569a4444; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:41:02 +0100 (CET) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include full headers with any abuse report. X-AntiAbuse: You can cut your adress from the complaint, this message was picked up by server: i8t.com X-AntiAbuse: Please report missuse to ipabuse at lopnet.se or by using spamcop.net Received: from [185.84.29.210] (account niklas.blomdalen@lop.se HELO [10.188.22.10]) by i8t.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.20) with ESMTPSA id 32514904; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:41:53 +0100 From: Niklas Blomdalen | LOP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_71A3CD03-6B8C-4598-8DAB-7BE91C94440D" Subject: FreeBSD Port: php56-imap-5.6.29 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:41:01 +0100 Message-Id: <6C7522D6-964F-463C-B40E-9ABB78752AF0@lop.se> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org To: ale@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 07:41:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_71A3CD03-6B8C-4598-8DAB-7BE91C94440D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, i would like to suggest moving the imap extension loader priority = from 20 to 40. I have seen that imap needs to be loaded last to be satisfied. If i load it at 20 i get: # php -v Segmentation fault After renaming (in /usr/local/etc/php) # mv ext-20-imap.ini ext-40-imap.ini # php -v PHP 5.6.30 (cli) (built: Jan 21 2017 01:16:05)=20 Attached is the output of my pkg info command. Thanks for doing a great job! 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X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6IZaPQyswBAeyzp3urHRlQfBxGxx4Js3YAIn Subject: Re: 12-CURRENT won't configure to download packagesite.txz yet To: Allan Jude , jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com, pkg References: <4CC6808A-6F3C-4559-8663-4A493EEA2F64@FreeBSD.org> Cc: ports , current From: Jeffrey Bouquet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 03:09:12 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CC6808A-6F3C-4559-8663-4A493EEA2F64@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:09:22 -0000 On 02/ 6/17 09:59 PM, Allan Jude wrote: > On February 7, 2017 2:35:16 AM GMT+01:00, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: >> All the files >> >> /etc/FreeBSD.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf >> >> I edit time after time for >> {$ABI} which gives FreeBSD:11:i386 but I am on 12-CURRENT i386 >> Anytime I try to attune to >> freebsd:12:x86:32 or >> FreeBSD:12:i386 ... >> it downloads the packagesite again, as it does in the ABI example, but >> a terse >> error of wrong architecture, etc, and a fail to do anything to upgrade >> to Pkg-12. >> >> Can the proper file be rename upstream to what its architecture in >> simpler terms: >> like packagesite-i386-12.txz and a message printed upon de-TXZ the file >> so that >> the proper nomenclature is given to put into each of those three files >> above >> so that the generic packagesite.txz will not error out upon download? >> Or, put the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING ?? since it is part of >> base? >> >> >> Or some other way to de-showstopper this v11 April 2016 CURRENT to v12 >> Feb 2017 CURRENT >> upgrade which still has failed to enable seamonkey-2.46_5 to run >> non-segfault [ ie cannot run ] >> vs seamonkey-2.46_4 which four days ago ran without EVER segfaulting?? >> And cannot build > >from ports for obscure .h clang-header file related reasons? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Please provide the output of: > uname -a machine on which firefox, thunderbird, seamonkey, cc, pkg work: ....................... 11.0-CURRENT #2 R298350 Wed Apr 20 2016 I386 1100105 1100105 DEC22KRNL10 ( not GENERIC ) ................... machine on which firefox has broken numeric input [ I cannot log into the FreeBSD forum as my nickname has a "2" within it... nor use browser search in firefox that searches for terms with a "2" within the text field... jumps to another tab..., cc MAY be fixed, pkg still works only at v11, seamonkey segfaults, thunderbird segfaults, otter-browser has bus error, seamonkey won't build due to maybe clang header files: .................. 12.0-CURRENT #3 R313305 Mon Feb 6 2017 i386 1200020 ( guess from strings on the kernel) ... (forgot to run uname when booted into the system) 1200020 ( guess from strings on the kernel) " DEC22KRNL10 (not GENERIC) and per pkg -vv, still v11... > uname -K > uname -U > Again, maybe a ${ABI} set of three files (FreeBSD.conf (2) , pkg.conf ) that I could use as a template may fix the package issue and if that is fixed, could fix the seamonkey/thunderbird/firefox issues... Precise documentation is lacking in the limited time I have to test solutions in forum and mailing list posts. ..... From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 13:22:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FDBCD4B1E for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) Received: from taro.utanet.at (taro.utanet.at [IPv6:2001:938:1337:25::25:45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD07520B for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=utanet.at; s=rev1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=UJTLvKmGR7XPkjPmrkcoquzCtQitFZq1cZss0NxKkKA=; b=f84R9EW9lsbJ6huHXAiyTqQ4U0g6voOZSOr9WH7aeO9l5uAzpdM59QG06C8SQ4Sah1sC1DR/uC0x56Y0QPh4HEqAhfG6hVmV+hifWOgmBSuuQypPfJQ+JddY11qRqpC2D43ta9iCmZShYnI6Sj8JMB5H7Vyrd+HVU2f5H07/9SI=; Received: from plenty.xoc.tele2net.at ([213.90.36.8]) by taro.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cb5jS-0007hE-V5 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:22:54 +0100 Received: from 62-47-170-57.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([62.47.170.57] helo=[10.0.0.93]) by plenty.xoc.tele2net.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cb5jS-0003U6-SU for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:22:54 +0100 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Walter Schwarzenfeld Subject: shebangfix (deskutils/when) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 14:22:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TELE2-Authenticated-As: cf62768e218b4d81d95cc5390f1bd9dfc8b05683 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:22:58 -0000 I have a link in /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin/perl and set DEVELLOPER)yes. Only with DEVELOPER=yes, stage-qa states (port desktils/when and only with DEVELOPER=yes). Error: '/usr/bin/perl' is an invalid shebang you need USES=shebangfix for 'bin/when' *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 14:02:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81E9CD5754 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 14:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) Received: from tatiana.utanet.at (tatiana.utanet.at [IPv6:2001:938:1337:25::25:46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 619691BFB for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 14:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=utanet.at; s=rev1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Subject:References:To; bh=t76hEeu3rmi5a22MXFx73V9U6oyFtcERYSD7bNHlEFY=; b=w6136OWAf7wBENs2HOPIUKVdFYTSpQbTuJL3CsBX2jKNpLWF5C/oxCHunJBnxixsZdtNL/ZJtuBscq8LVoaNUcX5PKUGFfEe1zCveovHAWJbqwIZRNWgjlKY6qqt272h4xaISoT3kBtPGfBLft0Y32RzQxYPINGenj8+/U+QQrI=; Received: from paris.xoc.tele2net.at ([213.90.36.7]) by tatiana.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cb6Lx-0003Er-Gp for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 15:02:41 +0100 Received: from 62-47-170-57.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([62.47.170.57] helo=[10.0.0.93]) by paris.xoc.tele2net.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cb6Lx-0006lh-F6 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 15:02:41 +0100 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: Subject: Re: shebangfix (deskutils/when) From: Walter Schwarzenfeld Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 15:02:35 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TELE2-Authenticated-As: cf62768e218b4d81d95cc5390f1bd9dfc8b05683 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:02:44 -0000 It works if I remove the /usr/bin/perl link. (But I have to change all shebangs in the perlscripts ... it will be simpler with the link). From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 15:29:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D2ECD54B0 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 15:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from smtp.burggraben.net (smtp.burggraben.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:140:50a2::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns.exwg.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8AC1AA1 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 15:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F1C600099 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:29:37 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Scanned: by amavisd-new at exwg.net Received: from smtp.burggraben.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns.burggraben.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVG9+8w957Jd for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:29:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from elch.exwg.net (elch.exwg.net [IPv6:2001:470:7120:1:922b:34ff:fe56:321]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "elch.exwg.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (not verified)) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:29:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by elch.exwg.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4BFD301D6; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:29:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:29:35 +0100 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shebangfix (deskutils/when) Message-ID: <20170207152935.GA1560@elch.exwg.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 15:29:40 -0000 ## Walter Schwarzenfeld (w.schwarzenfeld@utanet.at): > It works if I remove the /usr/bin/perl link. > (But I have to change all shebangs in the perlscripts ... it will be > simpler with the link). The "/usr/bin/perl" hasn't been part of ther perl packages for quite some time - packages can't rely on it being present. But that's why w ehave USES+=shebangfix - it will fix all your shebangs for you (if used correctly). Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 18:04:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC606CD51E5 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1E11098 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A6BE6CD51E4; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CA3CD51E3 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8410E1097; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-246-6.lns20.per4.internode.on.net [121.45.246.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v17I45tu009687 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) To: "ports@FreeBSD.org" , Baptiste Daroussin From: Julian Elischer Subject: ports and dependency hell Message-ID: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 02:03:59 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 18:04:16 -0000 This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework people seem unaware of. It' getting too easy to get into dependency hell here (I've spent the last week fighting this) In a production system we have to choose packages from different eras. This is because on an average product different teams are responsible for different parts of the product, and they all have their own requirements. Not to mention the stuff that comes in from third party vendors which "must use version X of bar and Version Z of foo". This is something that is a fact of life in commercial vendors. Ports needs to support it, and fast because currently ports is a reason to switch to Linux. (ammunition for the Linux fanboys). We are only staying for the ZFS support but that reason will evaporate soon. We may need node.js 6.95 and a particular version of an apache mod for example, and a specific version off npm, which all only appeared in the ports tree at different times, so either we completely ditch the ports tree all together and import buildroot2 , which allows every package to have its own revision (but is Linux centric), or we need to generate frankenports trees. My curent iteration has 359 different packages, so you an imagine the hilarity if I need to slide 20 of those back or forth, all independently. There doesn't seem to be any understanding of this fact from the ports framework, and it means one has to keep one's own ports tree in source control, as a branch off the FreeBSD one. (maybe I should look at pkgsrc).. the problem is that the internal APIs of ports are changing too much. If you are going to change the API, then you need to be able to declare the version separately, maybe in a version/distinfo file that can be pulled in separately at a different rev, rather than having it built into the main Makefile of each port. Maybe the Makefile specifies a revision range it can be used with, but that would make a huge improvement right there. You can not just slide one port up by 3 months, and another down by 3 months to get the revs one needs because the damned Mk files have changed. If I coudl leave the bulk of the Makefile alone and just slide the 'distingo/rev' file, (or be able to select a rev from one htat gives many alternatives, that woudl be "wonderful". Please, ports framework people, think about how this can be done, If I have to edit a file, the game is lost. Can we please get some understanding from ports people that they are making things REALLY HARD on vendors and it really strengthens the hands of the "ditch FreeBSD and go to Linux" crowd when I need to spend a whole week trying to integrate in a set of 5 new ports into the product. The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want of each package and type make" is often heard around the company. And management is not totally deaf. If you want to see how its' done better (still not perfect), go build a busybox system. you can effectively select any version of any tool and they all communicate via the pkgconf mechanism and you get the result you want.(mostly). And the API is stable. On the pkg side of things we need the ability for pkg to say "yeah I know I'm looking for foo-1.2.3.txz as a perfect match, but I've been given some slack on the third digit and I can see a foo-1.2.1.txz, so I'll install that instead". Otherwise we just have to spend WAY too much time generating dozens of "matching sets" of packages , that must be kept around forever if just one machine shipped with that set, not to mention the fact that making the matching set is often a real task. The way to get around the problem above CAN be (not always) to install foo.1.2.1 first and THEN install the package you actually want, and pkg will accept it. The problem comes when pkg needs to install a dependency itself. Then it becomes "super picky", when there is actually a range of package revisions that would do. Instead of letting pkg install what it needs, we need to manually set up scripts to install the dependencies. so that all the work done by pkg is wasted. Please think about these two issues.. Julian From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 18:06:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC40CD5284 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F1CE1245 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DED20B7D for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:06:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=6Bnf27WX4RaFgWK fYoRV39F6DvU=; b=KatuXLvenykMHDRWlTeLvtrF7P5fYwdlM2oiYOEEs/Vtjva +M/uu1zJq0NI6j2u+aybt0BrSUAC5woENDp1HvgG5wp7MTM7V0bjYjg3nRiLdIuq 6AezYUgFgA/DHBt0Q+nZ5HevIGDxRqrHjIko4dYFUXgH4D7f7FwQH37fKWxk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=6Bnf27WX4RaFgWKfYoRV39F6DvU=; b=UjCKMADt5btm2WKKKOCT rNHjve6DGaz2gpAI+vd4iMIF5sJCkw8KuhV1kgVHjeCjcgx0gorvIcOtMojzH14+ mB5w1ooDi3ch5685xyuxYuQLrGEmnKCCXcDNDhnFUwkfATVLaWyb8HgzVLDXZ7aO n5sO++TbvMkyEeYxCa2g5LM= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: oZJgvRBFkKixBDhQxAaXYepABQYENUkXTqgXLAOyGowc 1486490762 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37C9E7E3BA for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:06:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How to see package dependencies (scponly depends on ccache?) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <65bbf996-d0a2-ac78-eaa2-3b7138481b4f@fechner.net> <8637fugu85.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <920f2cdb-e540-7115-1eb5-b71bfbb36e69@zyxst.net> From: tech-lists Message-ID: <57335130-5c8e-e17e-f341-12f310f5ba7a@zyxst.net> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:06:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 18:06:04 -0000 On 06/02/2017 09:37, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Am 05.02.2017 um 14:23 schrieb tech-lists: >> does your /etc/make.conf have a reference to ccache ? > > /etc/make.conf is empty, only my poudiere make.conf holds the following: > DEFAULT_VERSIONS=php=5.6 apache=2.4 mysql=10.1m bdb=6 ssl=openssl > WITH_BDB6_PERMITTED=1 > WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes > WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL=yes > > WITH_MPM=event > OPTIONS_UNSET=DEBUG DOCBOOK EXAMPLES > OPTIONS_SET=proxy dav ssl ldap > > DISABLE_LICENSES=yes > > All packages (build with poudiere on another machine) are installed > using pkg. Does the Makefile for scponly contain any ccache reference? Because if not, I'm stumped! -- J. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 19:17:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EF6CD4D6A for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 19:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [185.24.122.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E61D8FE9 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 19:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (ip-109-84-3-180.web.vodafone.de [109.84.3.180]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v17JHYpv076837 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 19:17:35 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host ip-109-84-3-180.web.vodafone.de [109.84.3.180] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 19:17:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 19:17:44 -0000 On 07/02/2017 18:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework people > seem unaware of. > (...) > > The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want of > each package and type make" is often heard around the company. And > management is not totally deaf. > Hi Julian, I may not fully understand how it works but what prevents you from getting sources for the version you want and typing make in them, exactly the way you do it in Linux? It should pick up the versions of dependencies currently installed in the system and compile for them. Is it only when you want to use the ports infrastructure that poses a problem? Grzegorz From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Feb 7 21:15:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CD8CD522C for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tingox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x234.google.com (mail-lf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6E3867E for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tingox@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id v186so70591186lfa.1 for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:15:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7DYYWTo+oRQYtQwOnzZtFqPmonjhbO1Y5FEBxIM7uxk=; b=anwdrdRABMA6QKBL6ocLm71a0DYn0TRBujRALrR/FDIt/TwLbt2Tfyp8bzCdefnhUC hbZRFUaAIr5jf1KsYCvM4shMe3PNfcwMx40SkO7HGa0u+VlAkxvQq0beeK+s8A5czpgm YmpeplG1lN3ckm6mewu4ccITAIc+qwBBRumxkS6Gzff9pjMf4byMTODA9/Vuzdm8ko/f RiFiCh3RRPvyA4f2FxGXi6NYHVXPG8xow9KOt8pFooh6IgX7g4TieZD570ZP7xFG1ppc T2ywgcL/uaem71HK4jR7GwRq43ciYdqUbGhNU3atxYSF+OKI5DlRWc9dHjYVjiyRnkjH CReg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7DYYWTo+oRQYtQwOnzZtFqPmonjhbO1Y5FEBxIM7uxk=; b=qmV4Q/s1S0Z5r9QMQ7sXs86Ej6oCVEkHogwwFTYrt868oQMRx/af2wa3mHU1DO7UOp ZJo8t75jE38uo6zeAtIhWXUK8Kb7tBUOAdVYTBpEI20oLPTS07vBo0aqHYw1DrakubMz qFQrt+uB9ziNhVhz5oKRaFL3JkBLVYyaUe870HanbUYe5s+5tCLklcrL5I5cwERieqko PGMwMLV6dh8Z6NAweTgpf7IAGSt1d0o3adaVzUcIffx5xxQEiX8D04/0Bx2VYV1X3sKd n2c4n4HZytalob+DATrk91DdoOzD79x87B3j0Zm47qMF4SnbNBNTYhB/bIhKf1QGeXdZ 0yEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mTb/ig/YaTfbEnasXeH8D9g3hsQhoWR7lrULeVzfPlH+KN6tsF7RTwmPXEInNtnkv0/FkV6KtWHtfEpA== X-Received: by 10.25.80.66 with SMTP id z2mr5599437lfj.157.1486502101620; Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:15:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.141.140 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:15:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6a4f3cca3061f7465eb556292822621b@lerctr.org> References: <5CC44640-544B-4997-97A8-725BC00CC85F@yahoo.com> <365a46d61b0ae80a2303e77abd2aae06@FreeBSD.org> <6a4f3cca3061f7465eb556292822621b@lerctr.org> From: Torfinn Ingolfsen Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 22:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: net/boinc-client: make LINUX option a default or Slave port? To: FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 21:15:04 -0000 Hello, On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > I'm working on making Manfred's sources used in the port, and will *NOT* > be flipping the LINUX option. I'll be pushing an update for > net/boinc-client > soon. > FWIW, the latest boinc-client in the ports tree installed without problems and works with boinc_curses root@kg-vm# pv boinc* [Reading data from pkg(8) ... - 59 packages found - done] boinc-client-7.2.33_7 = up-to-date with port boinc_curses-0.2.2_1 = up-to-date with port on root@kg-vm# uname -a FreeBSD kg-vm.kg4.no 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r311695: Sun Jan 8 20:58:02 CET 2017 root@kg-vm.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I haven't verified that it actually works yet (setiathome is down for maintenance, and I haven't compiled the binaries yet) as I don't have any project binaries for FreeBSD right now. (I tried binaries for Milkyway that I had laying around, but I'm not sure they actually work on FreeBSD 10.3) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 08:04:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E4FCD590E for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ABE3B6C for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-246-6.lns20.per4.internode.on.net [121.45.246.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v188421Z012239 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Feb 2017 00:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> From: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:03:56 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:04:09 -0000 On 8/2/17 3:17 am, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > On 07/02/2017 18:03, Julian Elischer wrote: >> This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework >> people seem unaware of. >> (...) >> >> The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want >> of each package and type make" is often heard around the company. >> And management is not totally deaf. >> > > Hi Julian, > I may not fully understand how it works but what prevents you from > getting sources for the version you want and typing make in them, > exactly the way you do it in Linux? It should pick up the versions > of dependencies currently installed in the system and compile for > them. Is it only when you want to use the ports infrastructure that > poses a problem? Nothing stops me from doing that. It's just that means that the ports infrastructure is useless and a complete waste of time right? I'm no ready to admit that, however I may just be in denial. also, downsides to doing that include: * not getting any FreeBSD related fixes (many packages don't work well on FreeBSD without patches) * not being able to play nice with software installed by packages * having a hard time installing FreeBSD specific software that is delivered by ports and pkg as it's primary means of delivery. * having to manually chase package revisions. In areas where I have no expertise. upsides include the ability to use autotools etc as they are designed to be used and pkgconf to knit everything together without worring about version problems. (downside is using autotools :-) ) So there is a price to pay each way.. I'm discouraged to not hear back from any of the ports 'committee'. > > Grzegorz > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 08:04:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26982CD5927 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C9DBA7 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 00F5ACD5924; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2971CD5923 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFF12BA4 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1884Fx6014592 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:15 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1884Fp0014591; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:15 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702080804.v1884Fp0014591@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:04:15 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:04:16 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ graphics/opencollada | 1.6.37 | v1.6.38 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ math/giacxcas | 1.2.2-57 | 1.2.3-25 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ science/gromacs | 5.0.6 | 2016.2 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 08:36:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674CCCD4523 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D3881E5B for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-246-6.lns20.per4.internode.on.net [121.45.246.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v188aEKN012351 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Feb 2017 00:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: (Relevant?) article on package mgmt at lwn.net To: Kurt Jaeger , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20170205111852.GD13006@home.opsec.eu> From: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <248c9e17-b427-9424-9eb0-395361e30e93@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:36:08 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170205111852.GD13006@home.opsec.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:36:20 -0000 On 5/2/17 7:18 pm, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > There's an article on package mgmt, also referencing the > topic of language-specific package mgmt, at lwn.net: > > Package managers all the way down > https://lwn.net/Articles/712318/ > very relevant FreeBSD ports/pkg issues are taking close to 50% of my time these days, and we are just using 400 or so packages. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 09:26:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4959BCD5810 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BAFD1D7; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cbOWZ-0006QG-Qu; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:26:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:26:51 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Julian Elischer Cc: Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell Message-ID: <20170208092651.GN13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 09:26:53 -0000 Hi! > I'm discouraged to not hear back from any of the ports 'committee'. I'm not from the committee 8-), but I think you raise relevant points. It is not easy to cover them. All of the pkg-developers have their tables full of work, so ... Crafting a well-reflected answer takes time. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 11:31:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2547CD69C0 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1CADA71 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486553374; bh=huEmZlDlksWgkOzYGyw2r4uadoChXMLtgoxyGvQ5MGI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=A4yN5ycW7bpqOuLqn3WOJaXS109zGwkVMZZoboCYJ7WZGNwc6Rejwu0YH9C0Y9OvaNKetrmQINndJxmr6yLk4UwGMYL/HryDk+BBaXD2mIRnmJxnFP8rIu/zobnSiMdjgaJeSxQZ2QMtlZ6CfQE1FnXveX0HXRPKC994gkLKgPE= Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:29:34 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:29:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:29:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 943723.6803.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: J5tz0IMVM1m2D3jEa8VPM14cXeyCFWUPDscLPIziXYuNBoV AN25LGZVQPfU_Roqfut7inRfOr.LNniZB2i4twtVBAcQFSGEI25HW.G8tHhQ JIEKFLWNELD.SKnqKILB3fihwS8eUfOMxGzkroXudr1Zv3KsF.oxpfsISiEw ldabNLeE5Ol0lVI2oxDs7XIt4c7MxPYrpvaafuacyh6NRh92JqEM537jmLqi RHnVobtbgvhK0YNO4kUd0vf9FbuvVa6dnmU3F3h70VQnO84_v.YdY1MPvCVY YRFltisPoJ9Ir9raxeykTs7O0sTwJW_V6ZVi5XQXhRuzJsECUiXhC2JGmZ_i xgeKD.18qYFnlkHeCxCWNcJI3pdCAZ0eY.usxaeu6Jhwac78yagNDZN1GTEE 8qY4f0jyIXDhX0KPKl8jOOH2DDdMeThC9qSSpZiA17CnX9Qjqgs2b0Xoc_iS dg63fnKtn01Xu6uSC6UqHb.7dXdq8nphVsvEa2uZQd1a3wQcfLVCu6Zlasc1 iGV8p5I1IhZjT28vD.wBEENLnNBX1TUPUwkQsjjOgsTolphC_3bRrCQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 06:29:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:31:33 -0000 I just tried to install the fuse-nfts pkg under 10.2 on my server-of-all-work. But after requiring me to "upgrade" pkg, the fuse-ntfs install failed, apparently because there's an undefined symbol ("utimenstat") in pkg itself! How do I extricate myself? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 11:46:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09B9CD6E1D for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61383137A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33FCC84924; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:46:10 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:46:09 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: scratch65535@att.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:46:20 -0000 > On 8 Feb 2017, at 12:29 PM, = wrote: >=20 > I just tried to install the fuse-nfts pkg under 10.2 on my > server-of-all-work. But after requiring me to "upgrade" pkg, the > fuse-ntfs install failed, apparently because there's an undefined > symbol ("utimenstat") in pkg itself! >=20 > How do I extricate myself? The latest supported release is FreeBSD 10.3 and packages are therefore build against it. It creates this soft breakage inside the fixed ABI, which quite a few people run into. There are two solutions: (a) Build the packages yourself on a FreeBSD 10.2. (b) Upgrade to FreeBSD 10.3 and do a "pkg upgrade -f" run. And for the wicked: (c) Let's please address this issue within FreeBSD so users don't run = into it. ;) Cheers, Franco= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 11:59:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0447CD511B for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E391A97 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B0030CD511A; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFE2CD5119 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC451A96 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486554980; bh=FkXfR2ZoniwCDEYSqtLPEE4Fr9KAqb/ZzLapcJCXC3Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=MJryKMcfzOem2QIFlQDpBZWfcUkmc/xJLbExN3gRII7tpWvu/oyoyEst9x0uX+eX4Mf2F0nrCpsEQk4jEaDEOF6jNYyPs4XxufcDARn0PBvfcizVmF5V6j3ghPX+VvBLItl7RVaIqTxhz44k1dI2WnI+gnI2qgEC2Be54V3ZD+k= Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:56:20 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.119] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:56:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 11:56:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 236873.62457.bm@smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nBFigqwVM1lvNU3ppDoa_eqNM8Qdg3y8tUKs_uwSyCXUlY8 9XCZrfvfQQzDr9sbw1ut13DI7nn.0c1kaCQaP4XRX3WWSbDYg9FMjFGZdqyf 2XKQN7DzpiY9QmQYjFc6FRJT45CKm4AWS58JTOdxFFzPEU.056vDkUTwtVaC QVTl06eU2a5p1J0ckCCXWL9PzMdpbWXE22OZKjXcGJKAH06HnPdcC8y3KlaU Sb2Q.7COpdSK.Ol7p5ozhelSzHB3U_qcqfFD3u_kSlTds6.lrKU0HjpSheEk XX3fKqe5MpzBk1V7bDbWIuolBIVbW_7zP8hWnokGCZSDNJOxfvniy1d6lsXy wptrbRXnujhjS9lBFCD8JDsTzFYhM0uyPYO5_4LQEv74GB0mMEAgE5nYME6C Tmimm.94Jb6PEChqNxrDsQjj9tio6hGI9.c8OYoytG8aFNCOVOC10TNsrlOc d8R9oN99.fYPlLhL6CIRpZk0JSfUqw9ZQwSUgIt2Vv7ys4.fZJIelVDFHZkt PXSmb9yMmacvGZMRGMvfWni8IY0mRUFGPBcqMwScpODZBUt7XyfJx7wE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 06:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:59:01 -0000 My bug report just got closed by Mathieu Arnold because "You are using an obsolete FreeBSD version, you need to update to 10.3." So, what's the deal here? To "encourage" people to upgrade, pkg will break their existing install? That is both hostile and deeply arrogant! I don't want to upgrade because (a) I'm perfectly happy with 10.2 and (b) I've never been able to upgrade in place. Every attempt has ended in my having scour everything down to the metal and reinstall. I'm not willing to waste days doing that for no good reason. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 12:08:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C61CD5E0D for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E24353 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6062CCD5E0B; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600A1CD5E0A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm9-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38894352 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486555509; bh=4Z0rhPOpQT5sDbLRSRU5IXeiZGmVIsNL5vo3PqJAsHo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=I+GY1SVt45xyyJbwfHYvwREIDofnpK+5msx+0HA96acRcIgvmjZSknogPfELFF9UKc5HzUyEe8iMz977QVj7guZtS1cJeKX1axT3U/Rzf3u4HQYgQnwqfp6rtpYT76EVlX31MBrC0gzxx3FZOkxjXcmWayRNDvqVSzBWrhyRcKY= Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 12:05:09 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 12:05:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 12:05:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 637390.61194.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PXdgHAYVM1nsJRtpcyWbQ_vDBG3lYVbnukQCQYSklmcqI9F HZFTcRXaROu5A1S8Uu9setqRwr6DtlTJPbp8XBggo749k2PfheWkUClpA5_1 jZ.1pdX44XO_klgHxq7lAHvry.csUtRfRLy8DIdMYHit5atT4mH8K8XNPAU7 Yi_GLofy.9FO7GdkZRjMboZtBIPs1o4abts4fRSW7Mmt45uJnHPQMA6mpHXw mLTMWGZLQU1LiqR43w1iQjkJVmaoD1oqg6npJcA.wzJmOdYsijoddxpdtJIo Bprk5LhsHqxqT9GS.Haoa3Ym_co5.PftZFggYlzFo3zYxVWxr2rZLC3krw2g eWAYcJWjKnDB8mp36Jj_lf7IGj4utTuQ1LZcj0ZAu1o.2DgzLjmWuBTC0x9c j74AC8VL8LgxpfL37LARcxvTWCXDCqKIT5B0xdwa4k3aC59e0LVQWOIksjog NBae63KpHb7TINPnDFFZdOBD_9T06imrl64BBapGfp3DKC051B7oj0W7Ryf7 _Xz9IbwxxsG7eRkItF08xOJYVn_8LkRfvhDAGgF4ev1ndZlDM2Sw61raHpu. t2m5t5HkDGaSMN9e7sNGzIQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 07:05:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:08:19 -0000 [Default] On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:46:09 +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > >> On 8 Feb 2017, at 12:29 PM, wrote: >> >> I just tried to install the fuse-nfts pkg under 10.2 on my >> server-of-all-work. But after requiring me to "upgrade" pkg, the >> fuse-ntfs install failed, apparently because there's an undefined >> symbol ("utimenstat") in pkg itself! >> >> How do I extricate myself? > >The latest supported release is FreeBSD 10.3 and packages are therefore >build against it. It creates this soft breakage inside the fixed ABI, >which quite a few people run into. > >There are two solutions: > >(a) Build the packages yourself on a FreeBSD 10.2. > >(b) Upgrade to FreeBSD 10.3 and do a "pkg upgrade -f" run. Perhaps it's just that I've spent too much of my life doing human-factors work, but if pkg doesn't want to do anything for me once my version has passed its use-by date, it damned well shouldn't do ANYTHING. It should just tell me "nope, 10.2 is too old, entirely toooooo olllllldddd. No packages for you!" The one thing it should NEVER do is break its existing install! I agree with your urging, Franco, that the problem be solved in a general and non-hostile way. Now, how do I revert the pkg version? :-( From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 13:35:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D36CD6C65 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10FCD1D9C; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::1f]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v18DYqwP006087; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:34:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: Julian Elischer , Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <795f5658-bc50-eeb5-5799-68c16c8107a9@m5p.com> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:34:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:418:3fd::f7]); Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:34:59 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:35:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QLbmmq1ARiTe4crmUg7OvvQLKS6aXE6FQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GxCvPpVffwvdk3QUERmhpXSRV0eKLcNh8"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: Julian Elischer , Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <795f5658-bc50-eeb5-5799-68c16c8107a9@m5p.com> Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> --GxCvPpVffwvdk3QUERmhpXSRV0eKLcNh8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08/17 03:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > [...] > I'm discouraged to not hear back from any of the ports 'committee'. > [...] Possibly because this has been the topic of a number of rancorous mail threads in the last few months already, and everybody is fatigued. What there *hasn't* been is a consensus on what to do about it. And with all respect perhaps that's inevitable in a vibrant and active open-source project run entirely by volunteers. I wish I could omnisciently propound the right thing to do(tm) so persuasively that everybody would immediately set to work on it. 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amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:47:39 -0000 On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:03:56 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: > On 8/2/17 3:17 am, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > > > On 07/02/2017 18:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework > >> people seem unaware of. > >> (...) > >> > >> The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want > >> of each package and type make" is often heard around the company. > >> And management is not totally deaf. > >> > > > > Hi Julian, > > I may not fully understand how it works but what prevents you from > > getting sources for the version you want and typing make in them, > > exactly the way you do it in Linux? It should pick up the versions > > of dependencies currently installed in the system and compile for > > them. Is it only when you want to use the ports infrastructure that > > poses a problem? > > Nothing stops me from doing that. It's just that means that the ports > infrastructure is useless and a complete waste of time right? > I'm no ready to admit that, however I may just be in denial. It wasn't entirely clear what you were comparing FreeBSD ports with, is it specifically buildroot2? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 14:43:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701B8CD6F96 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFA459E6 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E418B1ECC for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/E418B1ECC; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:43:25 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hBJPDuT2LgKMK8x8ot4XdCwF3Docnss2J" X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 14:43:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --hBJPDuT2LgKMK8x8ot4XdCwF3Docnss2J Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wlQ6jkkgC904Xp8IsCxmcXR9T8tGoBwpL"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: In-Reply-To: --wlQ6jkkgC904Xp8IsCxmcXR9T8tGoBwpL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08/17 11:56, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > So, what's the deal here? To "encourage" people to upgrade, pkg > will break their existing install? That is both hostile and > deeply arrogant! mat's response is more exasperation than anything else. This is a well known problem for which there have been /numerous/ bug reports. You're meant to check that there isn't already a relevant bug report when creating a PR in bugzilla. Anyhow: Your installation is *not* broken. If you build net-mgmt/pkg (yes, the latest one) from sources using the ports, you will find it works perfectly well. Or you can simply use pkg-static However, there is no guarantee that a) some other package will not suffer from the same utimensat problem (so be very wary of using the pre-compiled FreeBSD packages) b) or that the package you want will compile properly on 10.2-RELEASE (most will, but a number of packages will fall foul of compiler problems and the like which have been solved in 10.3-RELEASE.) Yes, pkg(8) should issue prominent warnings when used on a system that is out of support. However, your best recourse is to update your system, and then all of this grief will cease to bother you. Cheers, Matthew --wlQ6jkkgC904Xp8IsCxmcXR9T8tGoBwpL-- --hBJPDuT2LgKMK8x8ot4XdCwF3Docnss2J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAlibLo0ACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OdEcw/9FkPL6g6wolmUABrkcSugzPDZzsY/mKZgf1q0eT2kr11KXi4GiUIISZ+0 rp0kE5uW1tT7msNkKe4BCuCD44U9O24sMX44fQ8xRl5uM0SsV9yztvW88IXlXmaN 1jJhO59UsXDMIvrH7hzbHL1itmPxxyjKaTchWiX9HQ6Uze/E2L6IDF0YaWxHJekf IdYkAk5bYDZjQIcVmQYF7W9SMhm3v8X5NCGPwoaGTJeBPKeaZJHhhZRJJlCr0rAr dKVHioV7oFpwOvdF/hy7w4WBC/3wcuhCgO5bwOI8BMLEig4q7iv7eSlgU/IZP1YR 9JFOSVElkGllvdqcvnFPWeTeXAqLDW4pjwv5FiFPFya5I9joxWqlqqnHuCGWmQT/ ySaMe1nXgqeHTWP/lbrIYW4BgFfOWKdgGWavV1tAKeNfkoJD6Q7joZyDLTFR3Hat 2yDFVvNfmcOwtymYJDHlSVLpNfOooUzZq5maDb7wnF90YO0KyB3iXOFxVjfhjX1s LxkrjCx99XmSH1l0VE9MSBkJmTI0QxMf/dmorRkfmLyZYfruQdzBbkPitAx0ZpjF Chhl+SzH9iakYMQoKCXYBlM0rhF2OIlh6Og4rAn4lYIqFjWxSbIsRbN6/CUEkXY1 CMXWXTN5PNoo4LIaPUFgSTb9toS28jF3zq1gm2+v8yIgD/h1VNU= =AnZ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hBJPDuT2LgKMK8x8ot4XdCwF3Docnss2J-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 16:07:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B7ACD5C45 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810351FCE for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7D727CD5C44; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1EDCD5C43 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8D31FCD; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-246-6.lns20.per4.internode.on.net [121.45.246.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v18G6xQo014310 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:07:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) To: FreeBSD Ports Management Team , "ports@FreeBSD.org" From: Julian Elischer Subject: please fix the pkg downloads system Message-ID: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:06:53 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:07:05 -0000 please work on having the "Latest" image in a directory that has the cvs revision number in its name and make the current names just be links to there. I ONCE AGAIN (for the third time) got half of one release (432891) and half of another (433120) because the newest snapshot of the pkgs was replaced half way through my process of downloading a large set of packages. Then a couple of days later I managed to get all the files of 433274, but by the time I got to downloading the metadata it was changed to the next snapshot (433341), making my mirror pointless. (unless there is a script I can run to regenerate the metadata from the actual files. (I'm guessing there is). Please consider keeping two copies, at any time. this measn that someonewho starts copying the latest set has at least a couple of days to get it. So FreeBSD http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would be a link to the latest but someone who followed the link 20 minutes earlier and was copying files would keep getting a consistent set. the actual backing set would be called something like: FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433274/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All and the next would be: FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433341/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All then FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433529/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All etc. (real snapshot numbers) but http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would always point to the latest one. this would ensure that I don't keep getting HALF A RELEASE! 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Is there a way to override this behavior? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 17:16:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B8ACD6474 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012FA10BF for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 45E32243A1; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:16:39 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1486574199; bh=8aPo4rlZF+cM/7nQx09RrSZhNSTlHfh8fp+LcfDE+NE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=boUHWKcZl5h80kmv3dBu7PLBxCL1JUjALI5BBudl94Fs3/maqBDnianEG/7dgxXgd kAR5DZplpQ5X47xE8Tg0YEsMll/5pU5RPrd0Ujx/OsI4+Xehp4dtnZUOMYWigiZf3j a0bzRSjYwVN0IdTjcTZnLwFvIUSZql+FTUTw2HCU= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E4642438D for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:16:38 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1486574198; bh=8aPo4rlZF+cM/7nQx09RrSZhNSTlHfh8fp+LcfDE+NE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=IhVsRvu6Wyv4ON+X8D2ihjC6NE3PpZgADOE9blT/RV1gZRjVos/fh8dr9JzvVHGCC cffhVuiCx1SIsbkxV5t5wCubboQNmwKyqiPgplBcpstpNkhuJUVKEgLXlEsftnicn6 0iApVYdWplW1mVZiF4LI92Qjuu1K13RyNwRm+cVs= Subject: Re: please fix the pkg downloads system To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:16:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 17:16:46 -0000 On 02/08/17 09:06, Julian Elischer wrote: > please work on having the "Latest" image in a directory that has the cvs > revision number in its name > > and make the current names just be links to there. > > I ONCE AGAIN (for the third time) got half of one release (432891) and > half of another (433120) because the newest snapshot of the pkgs was > replaced half way through my process of downloading a large set of > packages. Then a couple of days later I managed to get all the files of > 433274, but by the time I got to downloading the metadata it was changed > to the next snapshot (433341), making my mirror pointless. (unless there > is a script I can run to regenerate the metadata from the actual files. > (I'm guessing there is). I must be missing something. For that I am sorry. But... if I was confronted with this problem I would just say f*ck it, I'll use poudriere. I think you've mentioned you've got a package set of something less than 400 packages. I use an 8 core AMD cpu + a big ssd + 32G of memory (~$500) to maintain nightly updates of an ~1300 package set. It's efficient enough that I can usually drop a new port into my ports file and run a bulk build that completes anywhere from a couple of minutes to less than an hour. (Though sometimes that stretches out to 6 hrs or more) With not very much capital in disk you could maintain as many sets of packages as you cared, with varying svn revisions, local options, local branches, etc. I know if my job depended on "reproducible" package sets that would be the only technique I trusted. Best, Russell > Please consider keeping two copies, at any time. this measn that > someonewho starts copying the latest set has at least a couple of days > to get it. > > So FreeBSD http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would be a > link to the latest but someone who followed the link 20 minutes earlier > and was copying files would keep getting a consistent set. > > the actual backing set would be called > > something like: > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433274/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > and the next would be: > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433341/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > then > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433529/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > etc. (real snapshot numbers) > > but > http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would always point to > the latest one. > > this would ensure that I don't keep getting HALF A RELEASE! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 17:38:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8F3CD6BBB for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDDF1D77 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 616E8CD6BBA; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61191CD6BB9 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm16-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3937E1D76 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486575272; bh=ef3CWdc4VZYSfonpNocMy+whaAXrKN5ABZiwYfV2/hI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=DPmtHjh92zd4+mmImgGqNa2A98BVU7Mfwovwe689Ulpss5wutqr+EZWVfejlPKdW/x0qGAs/+LoqxclTp3K+sBSEwkYejEg7fC+2qMvSeAmoxUZbO/6ZPGR0/6ZbVuyiCiKDrK9dzpogGy+Qx2bBku/6H6pJg264eiPiOD/YdLs= Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:34:32 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.145] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:34:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:34:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 442763.46741.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: g93Bzc4VM1nPLWGzdUy2NsquyUGyEVOJ0MWk5Oeq5NwIOJk XGfnCVyR18K.jItf.ptND.J6utmR5NChXA2RSPw5LyC1sWbnBIfGQ3PnXwUs Jiyj31ka73AtQq4nESCq751ZmDHmc4P.6p0VCpnH7fjCgAG5SQIx8QQEZARe nfZF8x86kRYT27smyTQE6XjF48d0yLXelElxxvbO.EfnRDnipS67iyxM.1mf ZV_8B0rUYcYEyP4Loto8SUcX_.BAl8TqmUmGTc.71na913tdFF5RdpuJx.y8 GCX0hOBrNNU_CeoiEoWcVKoOq5JPCj96xmkEPs5wlv.uCZGaohMcQ3x8yFk2 KbDM4KPo75GrQDl8z6121Zh10vbknpylcgQoyAJCjC2BkgWuVRqolfMIBb7T PYWuFG424AQ_Z92MM_OjhieId8KbAumMiA1VNnZrCKu4jOBnHwDqAQmKgDb6 XglF10VTbfBgg05dTMA41m7uA0WVR9LoyRsyK8XJL3o41WtrFMpluxcDb0aN 1eOUGE8PlHLrZSrqpL6S1jVZhUrvlOC4HBnMOEVFCbuPCiQMAErk2zQjaiHk xfii9_a.._MZFivpTdIjb2w-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:34:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 17:38:01 -0000 On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:43:25 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >On 02/08/17 11:56, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> So, what's the deal here? To "encourage" people to upgrade, pkg >> will break their existing install? That is both hostile and >> deeply arrogant! > >mat's response is more exasperation than anything else. This is a well >known problem for which there have been /numerous/ bug reports. You're >meant to check that there isn't already a relevant bug report when >creating a PR in bugzilla. I *did* check for bug reports. I did a search on "utimenstat" and found exactly one, which had been withdrawn as not being a bug. But it *is* a bug. It's a bug on several levels, the most significant of which is that the overly frantic schedule makes versions have the lifespan of a mayfly. And we're told "just upgrade", as though there's some physical law mandating the craziness. There are people for whom the system is a tool, not a hobby. They don't want to have to rebuild their tools any more than carpenters want to replace their hammers and levels every year or two. For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all but won already, and that's sickening. I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened I feel about that. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 18:15:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7407DCD6163 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E971F45 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 54459CD6162; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F03CD6160 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 289BD1F43 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1486574405; bh=3W1WorQK+3oD9q6L1zwkp3BTSA1s2OsCup+owfAlEEw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=G8Q9gXJYQAT4Du4kv+nN8u5TqppI4fjDqQph3WwU/7OtKr3Brgamx7JgFYDHQOI/jNuX0dhK4CN5d9gpfQW7Ip0cRxGk53ufFwLnj1duXPm+s0ZF86iO5XNAvds463pXS61tCAf4+5PCYFF5xzyQeneVD7nyMfNsVTrRoAIgb/GC3zg+DGQcbNUrcvn1EmpGotxmhoXc7QRgfbActa+e0cyjBk5LITPI7KoFv4h5CPUAcGPeCTkW4I0+QMCxFFpwkVMFx5Xe9A5N3SBM8ZGt0rEfJU7OfoaRKvQ03ODF6FDhbv9fOa3lTOY1UpvGJIqOSHprp/VOMzyTiXqLqNamjg== Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:20:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.63] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:20:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2017 17:20:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 275972.57759.bm@smtp214.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: pRnyM4cVM1lBxjKjlLviW17wHQ43XyevKxyO_bjN9lIW4HS nsang4MPs5iu3UV.hmDK.GwEvKnutNePqWv0dw8KJ2rKMX.3Fz2etaGX5dNx wzQ0lnHYJDFEe0HyV5wAwtj2nOLBprC6DS0izfNKNHQaIls9rKxGhUdrU4pY f4yKHeqEt3O.lViWQoU3P_br85Li0q6weHnDtbrd4i2pcfb3Bu1eucGSFk0x sp73AaQZigkWp7S9TFgRnke1qSvvdhHtXMe.cDu0Fa3DnOlfHgKrCADNgqiH o5LPFkm3C1RaWN3IydGG8T8NWCU00pUrV7ADrrx02YwphHOLluOQWYMnY87S eig3X.7ELr.8L6NxcWrSpW35lGWG_GrAkse.8f4JdmiWH3wz1PQ3MxLtXCtx vW9HIY_uT.HCAgX6aiOH3culWPCF0L2XhfhzZLPHRVSbyBilRy25pYVtnlDy sfg4zCgHRf05Lu2vgLSA8h6q9EK.Y9Sy5vGSS4JHAWVzVw2SiRcao_MnqB5x D7HySsEM5nnqd6wKI4Xm1mnHyMZhnYPEPVe3rSDoXv8NHV2f1pLOn1snnQ7k B X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6IZaPQyswBAeyzp3urHRlQfBxGxx4Js3YAIn Subject: Re: please fix the pkg downloads system To: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD Ports Management Team , "ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> From: Jeffrey Bouquet Message-ID: <2f908248-8f89-fe48-5e91-f1bb18689540@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:20:02 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:15:37 -0000 On 02/ 8/17 08:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > please work on having the "Latest" image in a directory that has the > cvs revision number in its name > > and make the current names just be links to there. > > I ONCE AGAIN (for the third time) got half of one release (432891) and > half of another (433120) because the newest snapshot of the pkgs was > replaced half way through my process of downloading a large set of > packages. Then a couple of days later I managed to get all the files > of 433274, but by the time I got to downloading the metadata it was > changed to the next snapshot (433341), making my mirror pointless. > (unless there is a script I can run to regenerate the metadata from > the actual files. (I'm guessing there is). > > Please consider keeping two copies, at any time. this measn that > someonewho starts copying the latest set has at least a couple of days > to get it. > > So FreeBSD http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would be a > link to the latest but someone who followed the link 20 minutes > earlier and was copying files would keep getting a consistent set. > > the actual backing set would be called > > something like: > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433274/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > and the next would be: > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433341/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > then > > FreeBSD-pkg/head/r433529/FreeBSD:10:amd64/All > > etc. (real snapshot numbers) > > but > http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/ would always point to > the latest one. > > this would ensure that I don't keep getting HALF A RELEASE! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" and include a /usr/src/USING_PKG to put methodologies, how to get sets for supported versions, for CURRENT if available, migration methods, reinstall methods, across-version upgrade CLI, formats for each of the three files (three or more) FreeBSD.conf and pkg.conf, their precedence, cli for sqlite3> fixing or altering of metadata, etc etc ....... I've a v12-CURRENT and a v11-CURRENT, the former suddenly has between feb 04 feb 06 all except ONE of its browsers unuseable .... qupzilla "cant load freebsd.org"... etc for ALL tested url seamonkey segfault firefox cannot accept 2 as input Anywhere qupzilla-qt4 bus error ........ vs opera, which TLS - hardened cannot see freebsd.org ...... and am in the process of for the first time since 2004 having to *maybe* reinstall or redo /usr/local, due to pkg not being able to have a v12 repository and/or a hosed set of libraries for seamonkey and it means about a months of downtime, relative to how efficiently I used the desktop previously... Not wishing to come across as complaining. Newbie still in many ways. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 18:37:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB87CD6AB4 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [185.24.122.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1815E1345; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (ip-109-84-1-89.web.vodafone.de [109.84.1.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v18IawGg006595 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:36:58 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host ip-109-84-1-89.web.vodafone.de [109.84.1.89] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: Julian Elischer , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: <1c5128f0-4dd2-dd08-1ccd-68bcb69350b5@gjunka.com> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:36:52 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 18:37:02 -0000 On 08/02/2017 08:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 8/2/17 3:17 am, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >> >> On 07/02/2017 18:03, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework >>> people seem unaware of. >>> (...) >>> >>> The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want of >>> each package and type make" is often heard around the company. And >>> management is not totally deaf. >>> >> >> Hi Julian, >> I may not fully understand how it works but what prevents you from >> getting sources for the version you want and typing make in them, >> exactly the way you do it in Linux? It should pick up the versions of >> dependencies currently installed in the system and compile for them. >> Is it only when you want to use the ports infrastructure that poses a >> problem? > > Nothing stops me from doing that. It's just that means that the ports > infrastructure is useless and a complete waste of time right? > I'm no ready to admit that, however I may just be in denial. > > also, downsides to doing that include: > > * not getting any FreeBSD related fixes (many packages don't work well > on FreeBSD without patches) > * not being able to play nice with software installed by packages > * having a hard time installing FreeBSD specific software that is > delivered by ports and pkg as it's primary means of delivery. > * having to manually chase package revisions. In areas where I have no > expertise. > Re 1, I believe you can still apply FreeBSD related patches after you have unpacked sources and before compiling them? Is 2 and 4 from your list somehow easier on Linux than on FreeBSD? As for 3, why would you need to compile them from sources, can't you just install them either from the official or a custom poudriere repository? Grzegorz From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 19:03:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E45CCD549E for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA31CC1 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 09078CD549C; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B08CD549B for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell1.rawbw.com (shell1.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63C1CC0 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from yv.noip.me (c-24-6-186-56.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.186.56]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id v18J3onY012390 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host c-24-6-186-56.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.186.56] claimed to be yv.noip.me To: "ports@freebsd.org" From: Yuri Subject: Please commit security/morphis Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:03:48 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 19:03:57 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=morphis&list_id=157608 Thanks! Yuri From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 19:16:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AEFCD58A3 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18FE615C0 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1cbXjG-00076C-Mm for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:16:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:16:34 -0700 From: The Doctor To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid Issue Message-ID: <20170208191634.GA27061@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 19:16:56 -0000 ===>>> Launching child to install misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid ===>>> All >> misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid (1/5) ===>>> Currently installed version: e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.3_1 ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid ===>>> Starting check for build dependencies ===>>> Gathering dependency list for misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid from ports ===>>> Dependency check complete for misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid ===>>> All >> e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.3_1 (1/5) ===> Cleaning for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 ===> License GPLv2 accepted by the user ===> e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 for building ===> Extracting for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 => SHA256 Checksum OK for e2fsprogs-1.43.4.tar.xz. ===> Patching for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's,/var/lib/libuuid,/var/run/libuuid,g' -e 's,/usr/sbin/uuidd,/usr/local/sbin/uuidd,' /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/uuid/*.[ch] ===> e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 depends on package: pkgconf>=0.9.10 - found ===> Configuring for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 configure: loading site script /usr/ports/Templates/config.site Generating configuration file for e2fsprogs version 1.43.4 Release date is January, 2017 checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0 checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0 checking for gcc... cc checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking for dlopen in -ldl... no checking for gcc... 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(cached) yes checking for fuse.h... yes checking for fuse_main in -losxfuse... no checking for fuse_main in -lfuse... no checking for optreset... yes checking for sem_init... yes checking for unified diff option... -u checking whether we can link with -static... yes configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating MCONFIG config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating e2fsprogs.spec config.status: creating util/Makefile config.status: creating util/subst.conf config.status: creating util/gen-tarball config.status: creating util/install-symlink config.status: creating lib/et/Makefile config.status: creating lib/ss/Makefile config.status: creating lib/e2p/Makefile config.status: creating lib/ext2fs/Makefile config.status: creating lib/ext2fs/ext2_types.h config.status: creating lib/blkid/Makefile config.status: creating lib/blkid/blkid.pc config.status: creating lib/blkid/blkid_types.h config.status: creating lib/support/Makefile config.status: creating lib/ss/ss.pc config.status: creating lib/et/com_err.pc config.status: creating lib/e2p/e2p.pc config.status: creating lib/ext2fs/ext2fs.pc config.status: creating misc/Makefile config.status: creating ext2ed/Makefile config.status: creating e2fsck/Makefile config.status: creating debugfs/Makefile config.status: creating tests/Makefile config.status: creating tests/progs/Makefile config.status: creating resize/Makefile config.status: creating doc/Makefile config.status: creating intl/Makefile config.status: creating intl/libgnuintl.h config.status: creating po/Makefile.in config.status: creating lib/config.h config.status: executing po-directories commands config.status: creating po/POTFILES config.status: creating po/Makefile ===> Building for e2fsprogs-libuuid-1.43.4 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/uuid/elfshared cd /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/util && gmake subst gmake[2]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/util' CREATE dirpaths.h CC subst.c LD subst gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/util' gmake[2]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: 'util/subst.conf' is up to date. gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: 'lib/config.h' is up to date. gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' ./util/subst -f ./util/subst.conf ./lib/dirpaths.h.in lib/dirpaths.h gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' cd .; CONFIG_FILES=./lib/ext2fs/ext2_types.h ./config.status config.status: creating ./lib/ext2fs/ext2_types.h config.status: creating lib/config.h config.status: lib/config.h is unchanged config.status: executing po-directories commands gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' cd .; CONFIG_FILES=./lib/blkid/blkid_types.h ./config.status config.status: creating ./lib/blkid/blkid_types.h config.status: creating lib/config.h config.status: lib/config.h is unchanged config.status: executing po-directories commands gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' cd .; CONFIG_FILES=./lib/uuid/uuid_types.h ./config.status config.status: creating ./lib/uuid/uuid_types.h config.status: creating lib/config.h config.status: lib/config.h is unchanged gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/et' ../../util/subst -f ../../util/subst.conf ./compile_et.sh.in compile_et /bin/chmod +x compile_et gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/et' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/ext2fs' ../../util/subst -f ../../util/subst.conf ./ext2_err.et.in ext2_err.et _ET_DIR_OVERRIDE=./../et ../et/compile_et ext2_err.et gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/ext2fs' gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/support' _ET_DIR_OVERRIDE=./../et ../et/compile_et ./prof_err.et gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/support' making all in lib/uuid gmake[3]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/uuid' gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target 'all'. Stop. gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4/lib/uuid' gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:416: all-libs-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid/work/e2fsprogs-1.43.4' ===> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to the maintainer. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid ===>>> make build failed for misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for misc/e2fsprogs-libuuid failed ===>>> Aborting update Why is this happeneing? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism God is dead! Yahweh lives! Jesus his only begotten Son is the Risen Saviour!! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 22:00:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB78CD6EAB for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7733A1D28 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 71167CD6EA9; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70517CD6EA7; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36A201D26; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbaHz-0003rl-Ra; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 23:00:35 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbaHz-0002mJ-Pu; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 23:00:35 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:00:35 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "roberthuff" CC: "ports" , "gecko" Subject: Re: Seamonkey update Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 14:00:35 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <22679.52207.6914.639479@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:00:45 -0000 On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:05:51 -0500, roberthuff@rcn.com wrote: >=20 > Jeffrey Bouquet writes: >=20 > > pkg today updated seamonkey, now it segfaults,=20 > > every which way I try to run it. >=20 > I am running SeaMonkey 2.46_5 (compiled today) under: >=20=09 > FreeBSD 11.0-RC2 #0 r304729: Wed Aug 24 06:59:03 UTC 2016 amd64 >=20 > . > So far, indistinguishable from _4. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Respectfully, >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff About to reinstall the 2004-2017 disk, when a forum tar -C of base.txz etc fixed the pkg v11 > v12 issue, which caused _4 to reinstall from pkg. Built from ports. _5 on i386 segfaults.=20=20 GENERIC was missing axe0 and ums0 in my kernel which I reverted (the kernel) ..... So aside from a wholesale from-backup of configuration files (the MANIFEST in /usr/lib/freebsd-dist did not contain the 'motd' etc which it overwrote = with new, unfortunately... two concerns remain. ..... Building from ports again works, seamonkey _5 segfaults. I restored _4 from= pkg. (v12) pf is nowhere to be found. Even if in the directory where I kldload pf.ko,= I receive a 'no such file' message from kldload.=20=20 As it was not my primary firewall, it is not a huge problem, but I would li= ke to know if something has changed in CURRENT.=20=20 .... As another aside, I could maybe 'jail' _4 seamonkey for a number of years so that it is effecively 'pkg lock seamonkey' without chance for error. But m= aybe that is a pipe dream... .... Apologies to the lists for recent messages needed newbie help which I got e= lsewhere but may still have questions unanswered, besides the one above and the seamonkey i386 _4 _5 breakage I assume to happen someday. .... Thanks for reading. Very relieved at the moment. J. Bouquet=20= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 22:11:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C360CD42D8 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826AD6DD for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7ED93CD42D7; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E801CD42D4 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: from mailgate.leissner.se (mailgate.leissner.se [212.3.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF56A6DA for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: from mailgate.leissner.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.leissner.se (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v18LouJO006269; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:50:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailgate.leissner.se (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v18LotUs006268; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:50:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: from pol.leissner.se(192.71.29.17), claiming to be "pol-server.leissner.se" via SMTP by mailgate.leissner.se, id smtpdwpA5zo; Wed Feb 8 22:50:53 2017 Received: from pol-server.leissner.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pol-server.leissner.se (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v18LorMU069417; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:50:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) Received: (from pol@localhost) by pol-server.leissner.se (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v18LoqXO069416; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:50:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se) X-Authentication-Warning: pol-server.leissner.se: pol set sender to list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se using -f Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:50:52 +0100 From: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:11:54 -0000 On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 12:34:36PM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free > operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret > race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since > otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't > work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a > strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all > but won already, and that's sickening. > > I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) > and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel > boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened > I feel about that. My feelings exactly. I've been a FreeBSD user and strong advocater since around FreeBSD v1/v2. But the last few years the management of FreeBSD has steered away from making the best server OS, and instead focusing on ... what exactly? Making the ports system capable of handling a totally overwhelming number of more or less meaningless ports of different versions and flavours, and rolling/retiring the base releases at high speed just to avoid drowning under the workload of keeping all those ports functional? Who needs/wants this evolution in a server OS? (Linux already owns the desktop, let's not waste any time discussing that regrettable fact.) I'm sorry, and apologies to all great heroes doing all the volunteer work on both FreeBSD base and the ports system, but this is how I feel about what is going on with FreeBSD. As I have never contributed to FreeBSD in any way, other than promoting it to others, I don't have a say in the matter, nor do I expect anyone to care about my view. But I'm just really, really sad to follow what in my opinion is the slow demise of FreeBSD. Sorry about all the negativism. Peter From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 22:25:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1159CD4908 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9914101C for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D605FCD4907; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A83CD4906 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward2m.cmail.yandex.net (forward2m.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:b030::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94AD6101A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (smtp1m.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:2519::121]) by forward2m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8055521612; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 01:25:24 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0DF6D63C0FBB; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 01:25:23 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Py9kpAv3h4-PNGKbK4D; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 01:25:23 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Subject: qupzilla, etc. bus error at FreeBSD-current (was: Re: please fix the pkg downloads system) To: Jeffrey Bouquet , "ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <08701a74-4142-7e33-a1fe-9fd4d5a112d2@freebsd.org> <2f908248-8f89-fe48-5e91-f1bb18689540@yahoo.com> From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 01:25:22 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2f908248-8f89-fe48-5e91-f1bb18689540@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:25:29 -0000 08.02.2017 20:20, Jeffrey Bouquet via freebsd-ports пишет: > qupzilla-qt4 bus error As for this particular error. I have seen those at FreeBSD-12 with qupzilla, otter browser, diligent and some other applications. All of them are regularly updated from the official repository. And only if I 'pkg remove' openssl package all applications work fine (guess with base openssl?). HTH -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 08:13:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52219CD753D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA162CC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3F167CD753B; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC90CD753A for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3214F2C9 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v198Dv57095665 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v198Dv9N095663; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702090813.v198Dv9N095663@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:13:57 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 08:13:57 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/ports@freebsd.org.html Port | Current version | New version ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ audio/libebur128 | 1.2.0 | v1.2.2 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ textproc/py-cloud_sptheme | 1.8.0 | 1.8.3 ------------------------------------------------+-----------------+------------ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. 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[148.251.53.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m84sm7673287wmf.10.2017.02.09.00.49.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 00:49:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:49:24 +0100 From: Kirill Ponomarev To: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 08:49:37 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08, list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 12:34:36PM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > > For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free > > operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret > > race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since > > otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't > > work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a > > strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all > > but won already, and that's sickening. > >=20 > > I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) > > and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel > > boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened > > I feel about that. >=20 > My feelings exactly. I've been a FreeBSD user and strong advocater > since around FreeBSD v1/v2. But the last few years the management > of FreeBSD has steered away from making the best server OS, and > instead focusing on ... what exactly? Your statement is based on what? > Making the ports system capable of handling a totally overwhelming > number of more or less meaningless ports of different versions and > flavours, and rolling/retiring the base releases at high speed just > to avoid drowning under the workload of keeping all those ports > functional? >=20 > Who needs/wants this evolution in a server OS? > (Linux already owns the desktop, let's not waste any time > discussing that regrettable fact.) >=20 > I'm sorry, and apologies to all great heroes doing all the > volunteer work on both FreeBSD base and the ports system, > but this is how I feel about what is going on with FreeBSD. >=20 > As I have never contributed to FreeBSD in any way, other than > promoting it to others, I don't have a say in the matter, nor > do I expect anyone to care about my view. But I'm just really, > really sad to follow what in my opinion is the slow demise of > FreeBSD. >=20 > Sorry about all the negativism. I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, collaborate with developers more, give your ideas and proposals, think about its future and try to improve it, particiapte in FreeBSD conferences and workshops, read code and code. Rephrasing famous quote - if you judge something, you have no time to love it. K. --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEJCHRFhEAQujKni1pDyI9/LMCykUFAlicLREACgkQDyI9/LMC ykUBqggAnnvBqQ1bZWb87xWX33Zalc/quu3KU05CH9LuaUCs+UF5gLEtB2f07Hao SKqHJ13XluK/75kiP6LJECeeIfrvtLrXTZBmAT85j5+vDMoEl1XVZNceFw4xmKxB NFHDGogDzCdiHDw2SLUyv5FnUI+emtQv7l3kOnhF5amk1gjpPe0PjToEvm4FGiJb JgAR0vJMWC7aoXyNcBZrJ1cJt6+VQ09LpWkoQZ+Etz8P7akSvgdj08vjIsouXB+P RZ01BJqiLOSuydgJL18QVksXt2axlqnlq2L1470YHOyPa8RpVgEAR7NTp2Z+OR7n yGIJyyPj10r6wnS/vIxxk002vOJy5w== =pDyn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 08:55:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4934DCD7765 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346991EF1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 33D64CD7764; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337C6CD7763 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0F941EF0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFCBA81D4C; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:55:29 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:55:29 +0100 Cc: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se, scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> To: Kirill Ponomarev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 08:55:32 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: > > I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, > the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, I'm going to stop you right there. That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and worst of all no newcomers. Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made due to project management policies. 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[148.251.53.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k195sm7740483wmd.7.2017.02.09.01.03.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 01:03:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:03:01 +0100 From: Kirill Ponomarev To: Franco Fichtner Cc: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se, scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:03:14 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 > > On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: > >=20 > > I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, > > the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, >=20 > I'm going to stop you right there. >=20 > That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of > maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and > worst of all no newcomers. >=20 > Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made > due to project management policies. I think I've dejavu, as I've been reading these statements since 15 years, and they've the same meaning and context, with the same argumentations and facts. The truth is - the dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. K. --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEJCHRFhEAQujKni1pDyI9/LMCykUFAlicMEMACgkQDyI9/LMC ykUVEwgAoisB2OlW1fKQkofBfAdxBktdIBSA1oa4nUhUlQOKJXuj3bxt8rnQe61l FK71sVrumSZ+etQHGFhYKEJoDpDJEFlSXZ+MZ1cKIKjm6x+GgTbWL3HtMsX6uF7F tLBYFyNcHZ5Idr4tqPMRTw2ixR7N/HGt0rYt5g9GuzmbxM1K5qoU9gjDjCYdylZF M6cBTyPR3qQkfXe5f7KepLPtrAffP3TSet94ss0oFEcqOhxYtGaQ5IuOdutYwNHJ QIALgdNLrnBJj/+u/+ZkEUAl5yPF7QV52Tr88MmuteUJvXsCcmLZ/A3H7dO+oiYt PYpdDVBPvBcpQycDeXcTsCA1+PdyLA== =CXAK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 10:33:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC2CD6C6D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealie@nicandneal.net) Received: from nicandneal.net (nicandneal.net [130.180.124.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "nicandneal.net", Issuer "nicandneal.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8647B168C for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealie@nicandneal.net) Received: from lappy.home (10.1.0.1 [10.1.0.1]) by nicandneal.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 6be9cbc2 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:26:40 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Neal Nelson Subject: Nim Port Update Needs Committer Message-ID: <77a0d0d0-e5d9-638f-9eb0-504b909b4798@nicandneal.net> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:26:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:33:24 -0000 Hi al. Sorry to hassle the committers, but I filed bug #215941, an update to the lang/nim port to the latest version a month ago and it has just languished in the bugs database ever since. If someone could look at committing it I would be very grateful. There's also bug #215304 for a new port for the Nimble package manager for the Nim language, which I think that all Nim users would find useful. This has been languishing for a couple of months now, but is very simple, so if someone could commit it, I would be very grateful. Regards, Neal. 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[148.251.53.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w70sm17730290wrc.47.2017.02.09.02.38.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 02:38:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:38:45 +0100 From: Kirill Ponomarev To: Neal Nelson Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nim Port Update Needs Committer Message-ID: <20170209103845.GA81663@vein> References: <77a0d0d0-e5d9-638f-9eb0-504b909b4798@nicandneal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77a0d0d0-e5d9-638f-9eb0-504b909b4798@nicandneal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:38:58 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09, Neal Nelson wrote: > Hi al. >=20 > Sorry to hassle the committers, but I filed bug #215941, an update to > the lang/nim port to the latest version a month ago and it has just > languished in the bugs database ever since. If someone could look at > committing it I would be very grateful. >=20 > There's also bug #215304 for a new port for the Nimble package manager > for the Nim language, which I think that all Nim users would find > useful. This has been languishing for a couple of months now, but is > very simple, so if someone could commit it, I would be very grateful. Sorry for delay, I'll try to take care of both reports. K. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEJCHRFhEAQujKni1pDyI9/LMCykUFAlicRrIACgkQDyI9/LMC ykVBKwf+NovMYNWACZeMPoHbrnqOBTA3RvU1WWV8zOyMHtahrw3ym+4vpL6jri4n yaR1K0Pu5EgWCFXsDJcLtFd7gWP+znKz5mKM6RVrXXbIMa4i9BzgcQugPwC9rHGV B9frPcdLxv4NbwEhjL3s6DRl8ibnf1I8f8dT1TZ0BijM6sOOtAgO/3PqljKfKXF+ OOzLWYbtBzkSf8eyDC3I9nul0Us+KpyxOtvVSZUHLDa/scqyP+0omx6O+ZeEjC6H qC+m+gPwJ2SoWMQWGO2vk4hKflv2Z2gC+XOnvDebBs1FfXX+zHv42DfCEBOUdEOG W+Sfpc7L9r6SvAOyTJCvmL0E+zaoxg== =kLDd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 11:28:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F6DCD7E0B for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7349511C5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 72A04CD7E0A; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F3CD7E09 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AC5111C4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B21783D0F; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:28:20 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:28:20 +0100 Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports , list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <00730CCC-E49F-4126-8141-B0830BC8BEC4@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> To: Kirill Ponomarev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 11:28:23 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 10:03 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: > > On 02/09, Franco Fichtner wrote: >> >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: >>> >>> I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, >>> the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, >> >> I'm going to stop you right there. >> >> That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of >> maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and >> worst of all no newcomers. >> >> Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made >> due to project management policies. > > I think I've dejavu, as I've been reading these statements since 15 > years, and they've the same meaning and context, with the same > argumentations and facts. The truth is - the dogs bark, but the > caravan moves on. The lack of an open reply is exactly what I was arguing for, so I'm not sure how much this stance helps your case. ;) Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 13:03:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0643CD62D9 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from domagoj.stolfa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58A69B7D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from domagoj.stolfa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id r141so18447169wmg.1 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 05:03:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :user-agent; bh=D+Wo9u6RA4GyEJgTUlRquFWNanTW9k8+sSQuw8RFNeo=; b=Xn9gLs331nYsfSyVOvLFclI6vI7TKsKwvGPMSU3Thwut2YyIbGz47ogC7ahXHWL86B 7Xn+pXq6psSbGIA6k/YSTj4NX8FtsakdnvVtnWYrREpxZQcah10cugwnV7I7vosBUpY9 UqBB3s+UdSGv13Fwb1q3HFiFrUM8Cl9OAqfBkgkfstEPKDLnxXo5qDxoyrQ+WJqAB4vP dMDRHcjtaxDwrYmDTg58p9U5gKyqjVbT8m+C0SQ7rhL2Lib6VHefSBuxsbLApDm4acA3 DX5a6kmqq6VMfY8TkWcHuGpLhqFKVqx/UpAMdH1gXUxofFTe2febGwkRHZzn3fiXaBEF 0qCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:user-agent; bh=D+Wo9u6RA4GyEJgTUlRquFWNanTW9k8+sSQuw8RFNeo=; b=GVFHtppve5rQV6BfNVCcfUSBrQ0sDaEUC6pD1afFLBxNzly1MXPTgwjN0+y7wmKbTI Kg8+U3tTINDfd1htqssk2gG9QGI4UhHLhd0GsOwZ6pBRuU8ZaM1W4/tGjkjvUYpiPdTK LWhFoSoud9PU0Q0Ru3XTYMiSo8723ikzwidMcgJrdNFXwvkXjpmKK95GPasU8HKI1F6B xASOkHPuN6x/cOSawOsZBPxTNGcA3kluS96TCLNCFb7TyHwXTuXyHp7kh3lLqWPvy2sT Az69lcfOauEoSkos34FjAP0as/kAkJF5CQzSheFEXbaMVb80NdBDes7KqWNv3Ck+Yvb9 0SEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nsWlQOpYB7IUzBThONY4hYGDEOTYnrVs1nZNLNUpyMrnV0asq04qeQ/wNMTBtHew== X-Received: by 10.28.140.140 with SMTP id o134mr23745532wmd.87.1486645437508; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 05:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mobile (141-136-229-176.dsl.iskon.hr. [141.136.229.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a72sm18377827wrc.48.2017.02.09.05.03.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 05:03:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:03:53 +0100 From: Domagoj Stolfa To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Firefox build broken Message-ID: <20170209130353.GA9668@mobile> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:03:59 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, It would seem that the firefox build is broken on 12.0-CURRENT. I've been getting the same error as seem on [1]. Has anyone else experienced this? [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-20170206/408053.html -- Best regards, Domagoj Stolfa --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEHQB+y96lmmv+IXofwxT+ikb0YU4FAlicaLcACgkQwxT+ikb0 YU6whAgAkIzZmZsBw2rFcbFDhMnNZvnMCxol97sBKOJfms3VduuYs7M4yaT2h7Sg 395pC849C7bbS/mWrk01mSzA/CJ4BdbKpFAOVkiKTcZBSdOGfHCdtVFeAa92J1n4 FsdmSZsR5CxPnjscQ+hiWtb914nmkpDkoAa+X4EZlcr1I6qM8Y0z68Z0P2MAetAN Pn9kKc6hOcmUE1phuLmQWXFwGE+TXC8mUsg0LTPFOJsMy61Ts3dOHasFHHROa3kx dZs6uyIM17oPS+0ghO9q2oY++WoFERNSy4796A6AQM35jO4u9p39uoeohOLp8w76 uC600mCa0i7fhJV8f1oKJTGe0TfYtw== =49qq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 13:05:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1949DCD6363 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B89DDC55 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19D5PlQ099076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:05:31 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: updating ruby To: FreeBSD Ports , carmel_ny@outlook.com References: From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:05:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qoo9JF0mr6fXd2XtfhTSEdEI2cKCROiSA" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:05:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:05:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qoo9JF0mr6fXd2XtfhTSEdEI2cKCROiSA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UKq3AsUpvMmntHwTEHN0kM2VfCvieLKIA"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: FreeBSD Ports , carmel_ny@outlook.com Message-ID: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: updating ruby References: In-Reply-To: --UKq3AsUpvMmntHwTEHN0kM2VfCvieLKIA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/08/2017 11:20, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On or about 20170109, the default version of ruby was updated from 2.2 > to 2.3. However, "pkg install" wants to install version 2.2 for ports > that require ruby. Is there a way to override this behavior? >=20 The packages are built from the quarterly branch, where 2.2 is still default. You could build your own packages from the head branch, or build from quarterly branch with RUBY_DEFAULT=3D2.3 in /etc/make.conf. Steve --UKq3AsUpvMmntHwTEHN0kM2VfCvieLKIA-- --qoo9JF0mr6fXd2XtfhTSEdEI2cKCROiSA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicaRNfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboSPACACUCB7XgpymJ4PMp29VLxQyBL0rWVmu 6k0zZOaHtj1dBS4+Fv+W5BbS68e3sV4SXl4Iy7pb7ABN08jT1KLrsL/g3FcjnmGQ 1IwimuMLEOAh4GBrkMiOTl2++RUiSW5cgXrQ8jQc2r8Gk7pElKo4CkEdkiciCiKr wI8Ii9MQg4RleNMWSykLI1dsYk79geSIlX6X96DY0gjLP/incLHi6kD2b9/LVzl3 n+OzXHYISHEmVdoS+F+9KsFXGHndRYfPXlu0cCR+R2U8F/WHKVBUBVhBJp9KKMs3 q1vqy371zPDx8QsiBklbNMfAEK6Vk+0XQnJizxT+j3oSMwN+Aw/Bsrf2 =JaUh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qoo9JF0mr6fXd2XtfhTSEdEI2cKCROiSA-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 14:18:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D57CD7B06 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from springbank.echomania.com (springbank.echomania.com [IPv6:2a01:7c8:aab2:81::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "springbank.echomania.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4221016F3 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at springbank.echomania.com Received: from coleburn.avinity.tv (unknown [77.95.97.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by springbank.echomania.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3659158012F; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:17:50 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <28102BA4-11B1-413D-A65C-A62C6F0D13F0@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AB57D3FA-BFDD-4841-8547-3080430B6AD4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Firefox build broken Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:17:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170209130353.GA9668@mobile> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org To: Domagoj Stolfa References: <20170209130353.GA9668@mobile> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 14:18:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_AB57D3FA-BFDD-4841-8547-3080430B6AD4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 9 Feb 2017, at 14:03, Domagoj Stolfa = wrote: >=20 > It would seem that the firefox build is broken on 12.0-CURRENT. I've = been > getting the same error as seem on [1]. Has anyone else experienced = this? >=20 > [1] = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-201702= 06/408053.html It's a problem in the DTRACE option. See = https://bugs.freebsd.org/216871 . For now, if you don't need DTrace support, just turn it off. -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_AB57D3FA-BFDD-4841-8547-3080430B6AD4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.30 iEYEARECAAYFAliceg0ACgkQsF6jCi4glqPS6QCgibchXbUrXUnKX9Ws0I4cfFj6 OZEAn14A0x3oQ+aTh5aZvQ04BLaO9b7G =k0Ob -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_AB57D3FA-BFDD-4841-8547-3080430B6AD4-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 14:51:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476B1CD6568 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulli@noc23.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E421BF1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulli@noc23.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2D9FCCD6567; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D413CD6566 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulli@noc23.de) Received: from dubhe.uberspace.de (dubhe.uberspace.de [185.26.156.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B25ECBEF for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulli@noc23.de) Received: (qmail 11727 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2017 14:44:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?IPv6:2a02:f28:1:d:224:d7ff:fe70:d994?) (127.0.0.1) by dubhe.uberspace.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2017 14:44:22 -0000 To: coco@executive-computing.de Subject: FreeBSD Port: gatling-0.13_1 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org From: Ulrich Kalloch Openpgp: id=346E4041EE3D83C48397D08D44BE4EB74E7625C8; url=http://noc23.de/0x4E7625C8.asc Message-ID: <3722bbb3-7ca8-ccc9-58a0-dd89f0bd4002@noc23.de> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:38:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pePbfjA4Fc5Q0VveXr77qHrDu4PQAc9mX" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 14:51:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --pePbfjA4Fc5Q0VveXr77qHrDu4PQAc9mX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gOwmV5nw0W54GAE2Odi0mRbw8qDkn9NLg"; protected-headers="v1" From: Ulrich Kalloch To: coco@executive-computing.de Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3722bbb3-7ca8-ccc9-58a0-dd89f0bd4002@noc23.de> Subject: FreeBSD Port: gatling-0.13_1 --gOwmV5nw0W54GAE2Odi0mRbw8qDkn9NLg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4368E1A9740D13014B19AE86" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4368E1A9740D13014B19AE86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The gatling Webserver is updatet and its a importent Security fix. Please upgarde ASAP Thanks sokrates --------------4368E1A9740D13014B19AE86-- --gOwmV5nw0W54GAE2Odi0mRbw8qDkn9NLg-- --pePbfjA4Fc5Q0VveXr77qHrDu4PQAc9mX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENG5AQe49g8SDl9CNRL5Ot052JcgFAlicfvIACgkQRL5Ot052 JcgcORAAhwcPiZbzHYmE9VxyOLMPdFgjDJuCvF1Ls90/yBq7NFGclUhqKYl2jehw BJdl8IGHOAm4xIZqpcHkhMHLRt8edyRVPX9egc+pfgYbMrbuWbOwGbgbV39iQnny NxkqqGfj/u1gORhTYKpd+TA/wpcjDGh51dq+6ngVBBYjqDSP1ZOjTPttlZHVoLk2 /WV05pKEfJEUUb9Q/SwbEV3tmLHKh+qXpzV3l5Sg0evWCfNB474NbCObcF43mDjj nXXyn7+Aqwe8H6sikpfJ0jdVD/4WYOJcc/9k+jDu1x7ZBCkq5V0oC9gW/WrluYzx SXGgSsnbsKrptozAqPpee8QQkvQj124kKMvz5oZoxlFewnbQmzvV7yMq2CfniOuh 29m4dkNIyY5h7OvP6FAfK8KHZ0HNLb1CGbCkj0Eiq29OWTx8avOLpK4mFYhHnQDS 4xGnBCv4Afc+xqVvzHGsr0TuBA+9dEPnQmA7GmVMh3i8R+H1PRPYMDVpee9QbTrO wLpXlzpLCKV8RB/sYQ4PeRyhLUi5JWyAfM7aMkwtNl3SFMNLmpeS6jKKQoc/tw0e r7w/McuO3ozhDV3y95qOsj5P2vRuif7xsuUFNzDu/ymlHqhsrHChZx9sKoMHuX0u cOCNv2ZH3J1SSTPsTh0lX3MNNoqqKggvyH/mCU5GSmbw37N8cMA= =IhVP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pePbfjA4Fc5Q0VveXr77qHrDu4PQAc9mX-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 14:56:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA68CD68D0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx2.mailbox.org (mx2.mailbox.org [80.241.60.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5047310AB for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ECA44417D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:56:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received; s= mail20150812; t=1486652160; bh=REyg+8cq/LXi7+Il8qG7Hm/NREfDQKb5c HxPkWNtuNU=; b=E7Qc6xE3EWxObHc2enTTIEPMN2z6hNA0qoVXwOwWS7gMN0pnI BplR0c76cVoiJrz+U+NhzkLWKzt28DZ92Pn0gecFrmwkoa3iXVvbvEkrAqlikICO npybbYfVXT6k6lBEpweFB4iELAXCfaD89zGJ0eoXza0HstIiaFVnIFM9CB4SZIdn VjMqXgbG+oz2Fw23uiAqb74JCd15sSs6UHM+/eiBRS0nKH3mdsshPwGC5cjoScLJ aztBmRXyO00KPGnzh8pymI4tE6WHRnPQvfFILvX0ZBlEJIkSXU4oGLq3eAq9cFI8 eucKQAO8qH7hQDf/Dz3cGFTn7pdUrYDABOwiA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by hefe.heinlein-support.de (hefe.heinlein-support.de [91.198.250.172]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 731-lkXzV4Mc for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:56:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:55:59 +0100 Message-ID: <867f4z9zwg.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating ruby In-Reply-To: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> References: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 14:56:16 -0000 Steve Wills skrev: > > Hi, > On 02/08/2017 11:20, Gerard Seibert wrote: >> On or about 20170109, the default version of ruby was updated from 2.2 >> to 2.3. However, "pkg install" wants to install version 2.2 for ports >> that require ruby. Is there a way to override this behavior? >> > > The packages are built from the quarterly branch, where 2.2 is still > default. > > You could build your own packages from the head branch, or build from > quarterly branch with RUBY_DEFAULT=2.3 in /etc/make.conf. DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ruby=2.3 -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 14:58:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0DECD6949 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A59411A4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19EwT0O000270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:58:34 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: updating ruby To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> <867f4z9zwg.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <4211a251-9507-8176-1390-4aa724d53783@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:58:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <867f4z9zwg.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8p5HVP5uGuLohb0B9FHidTBcUD6jpjqC5" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 14:58:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8p5HVP5uGuLohb0B9FHidTBcUD6jpjqC5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fvIg5ABAAK1A5xnRSPV16b1kSoDvWG75W"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4211a251-9507-8176-1390-4aa724d53783@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: updating ruby References: <668be0d7-1fdd-653e-691f-c75e83e76bcd@FreeBSD.org> <867f4z9zwg.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <867f4z9zwg.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> --fvIg5ABAAK1A5xnRSPV16b1kSoDvWG75W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 09:55, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >=20 > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Druby=3D2.3 Err, yeah, sorry, was too early for me... Thanks for the correction. Steve --fvIg5ABAAK1A5xnRSPV16b1kSoDvWG75W-- --8p5HVP5uGuLohb0B9FHidTBcUD6jpjqC5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicg5RfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboVxUB/4+Ga878J+0TPpxkhX2O9RSOm5KGYjF 8ICvPPafbDOGTYw2d4VhlHMi0B15SkUuwVoTgtL6WW8rZ6trozYpi7Uv8NuB0PKZ 1nv4KcfQv7Bpz9iR9cOD2hHM1o9EsjUvYFM4Kryvq+0siOtdxwMfUZj4f3pZnBA8 zlIUXuooVXZTS5Kb3je+b8JV76t02zA9RaH6wVAEZ0sc1pPZndnS9FjpYIb/AGm7 4n3ZrLZkpoLzKRfaAIUkLi31l7cQGeCQAckwkHrxd3t6m1+FkEyl8LU6fn6rpmRX hbuHvdaOO5ZMjkSrGisGiFOCQb1GfDlJ2m/EfKbQIscIHoKd/SeGL96F =DkoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8p5HVP5uGuLohb0B9FHidTBcUD6jpjqC5-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:02:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3D3CD6C4F for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE01671 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E3F31CD6C4E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E393FCD6C4D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A38C01670; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19F22x4000350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:02:07 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell To: Julian Elischer , "ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <6e92ff1b-78ef-d6c2-83e7-059122977783@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:02:02 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kpVOBug0ObM0Tl0jkHxXsGAJcEAE2uIE1" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:02:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kpVOBug0ObM0Tl0jkHxXsGAJcEAE2uIE1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fgfqQgqcWuL6hI4GlFrF6C2MCs3ssIplx"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Julian Elischer , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <6e92ff1b-78ef-d6c2-83e7-059122977783@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> --fgfqQgqcWuL6hI4GlFrF6C2MCs3ssIplx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Julian, On 02/07/2017 13:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework people > seem unaware of. To be honest, it's kind of a confusing post, at least to me. > It' getting too easy to get into dependency hell here (I've spent the > last week fighting this) >=20 > In a production system we have to choose packages from different eras.= >=20 > This is because on an average product different teams are responsible > for different parts of the product, and they all have their own > requirements. Not to mention the stuff that comes in from third party > vendors which "must use version X of bar and Version Z of foo". This is= > something that is a fact of life in commercial vendors. Ports needs to > support it, and fast because currently ports is a reason to switch to > Linux. (ammunition for the Linux fanboys). We are only staying for the > ZFS support but that reason will evaporate soon. >=20 > We may need node.js 6.95 and a particular version of an apache mod for > example, and a specific version off npm, which all only appeared in the= > ports tree at different times, so either we completely ditch the ports > tree all together and import buildroot2 , which allows every package to= > have its own revision (but is Linux centric), or we need to generate > frankenports trees. My curent iteration has 359 different packages, so > you an imagine the hilarity if I need to slide 20 of those back or > forth, all independently. >=20 > There doesn't seem to be any understanding of this fact from the ports > framework, and it means one has to keep one's own ports tree in source > control, as a branch off the FreeBSD one. (maybe I should look at pkgsr= c).. I found this all confusing and vague, but it sounds like what's happening is you need older versions of some software for whatever reason and to provide that you are pulling older versions of ports into a newer ports tree. Is that right? > the problem is that the internal APIs of ports are changing too much. Sorry, what do you mean? Can you define "too much" change? > If you are going to change the API, then you need to be able to declare= > the version separately, maybe in a version/distinfo file that can be > pulled in separately at a different rev, rather than having it built > into the main Makefile of each port. Maybe the Makefile specifies a > revision range it can be used with, but that would make a huge > improvement right there. The idea of having ports/packages support a version range for dependencies is an interesting one, but I'm not sure how that would work.= > You can not just slide one port up by 3 months, and another down by 3 > months to get the revs one needs because the damned Mk files have > changed. If I coudl leave the bulk of the Makefile alone and just slide= > the 'distingo/rev' file, (or be able to select a rev from one htat give= s > many alternatives, that woudl be "wonderful". You're better off finding the tree that has the right version of the oldest thing you need to use and then updating the things that you need updated. > Please, ports framework people, think about how this can be done, If I= > have to edit a file, the game is lost. >=20 > Can we please get some understanding from ports people that they are > making things REALLY HARD on vendors and it really strengthens the hand= s > of the "ditch FreeBSD and go to Linux" crowd when I need to spend a > whole week trying to integrate in a set of 5 new ports into the product= =2E >=20 > The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want of > each package and type make" is often heard around the company. And > management is not totally deaf. >=20 > If you want to see how its' done better (still not perfect), go build a= > busybox system. you can effectively select any version of any tool and > they all communicate via the pkgconf mechanism and you get the result > you want.(mostly). And the API is stable. Sounds like you've got a lot of folks who are used to the "LTS" mindset where they never have to update their software to work with newer versions. But ports is a rolling release in the head branch and quarterly for those branches, and that's how it is going to be unless someone wants to volunteer to maintain branches for longer. The LTS thing works because people are paid to back port fixes and you can get those for free. > On the pkg side of things we need the ability for pkg to say "yeah I > know I'm looking for foo-1.2.3.txz as a perfect match, but I've been > given some slack on the third digit and I can see a foo-1.2.1.txz, so > I'll install that instead". I'm not sure how you would do that in a general way that didn't add extra work for package maintainers. > Otherwise we just have to spend WAY too much time generating dozens of > "matching sets" of packages , that must be kept around forever if just > one machine shipped with that set, not to mention the fact that making > the matching set is often a real task. Packages should generally be maintained as sets, rather than individual packages, IMHO. > The way to get around the problem above CAN be (not always) to install > foo.1.2.1 first and THEN install the package you actually want, and pkg= > will accept it. The problem comes when pkg needs to install a dependenc= y > itself. Then it becomes "super picky", when there is actually a range o= f > package revisions that would do. Instead of letting pkg install what it= > needs, we need to manually set up scripts to install the dependencies. > so that all the work done by pkg is wasted. >=20 >=20 > Please think about these two issues.. You can always use 'pkg lock' to lock a particular version of a package. Steve --fgfqQgqcWuL6hI4GlFrF6C2MCs3ssIplx-- --kpVOBug0ObM0Tl0jkHxXsGAJcEAE2uIE1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlichGtfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboceSB/9N2qxEhpyagX08jrVdqx9I17OVwRQz RhMr/h6uQIij8coCjIuIl1iMDZ144ovZUBiL+wBazX7xf5ngCuYPa0KBhSfzZ0ED JzhE9k87IGcg1y0r4dm78yjiRwzxVrNuYzJR8pb7Ru1KX99w5Aae63W0rk8l5rbz 3/hx9OHk6vCHTtTx/brZpL9Du+9ona+Xz+bpUmee5YgGDCdk8jAYatDCqi5z9ZxT vWR34VhEc30sxL2A/JJkhTIJseNQByLKcFzRw4A8Hq5e2A3VlrXh1vB0vzcnEH6D y5U04oDhx3emYsTDOSQft7LwejSBSzd0v5qCNR4ZHv0i3zzPlf5N1QT+ =0jKC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kpVOBug0ObM0Tl0jkHxXsGAJcEAE2uIE1-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:03:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E46CD6DC7 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citapm.icyb.net.ua (citapm.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C519CA; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citapm.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id RAA15227; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:03:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1cbqFX-0005qS-IT; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:03:07 +0200 Subject: Re: Firefox build broken To: Dimitry Andric , Domagoj Stolfa References: <20170209130353.GA9668@mobile> <28102BA4-11B1-413D-A65C-A62C6F0D13F0@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org From: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <3fa09e48-f7a8-2a31-fb24-14731faa033d@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:02:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28102BA4-11B1-413D-A65C-A62C6F0D13F0@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:03:16 -0000 On 09/02/2017 16:17, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 9 Feb 2017, at 14:03, Domagoj Stolfa wrote: >> >> It would seem that the firefox build is broken on 12.0-CURRENT. I've been >> getting the same error as seem on [1]. Has anyone else experienced this? >> >> [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/Week-of-Mon-20170206/408053.html > > It's a problem in the DTRACE option. See https://bugs.freebsd.org/216871 . > > For now, if you don't need DTrace support, just turn it off. Can this be done by default? So, that the binary packages for "FreeBSD 12" can be built. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:09:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A67CD70BD for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7531DF4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D9F04CD70BC; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998DCD70B9 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAAE61DF3 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19F9Y8i000411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:09:41 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:09:35 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:09:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:09:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Message-ID: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: --ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/08/2017 12:34, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >=20 > I *did* check for bug reports. I did a search on "utimenstat" > and found exactly one, which had been withdrawn as not being a > bug.=20 >=20 > But it *is* a bug. It's a bug on several levels, the most > significant of which is that the overly frantic schedule makes > versions have the lifespan of a mayfly. And we're told "just > upgrade", as though there's some physical law mandating the > craziness. Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 would you have ports maintain support? > There are people for whom the system is a tool, not a hobby. They > don't want to have to rebuild their tools any more than > carpenters want to replace their hammers and levels every year or > two. =20 If you've having trouble upgrading that are causing you to rebuild, then that's a different issue, but not one I can help with. It doesn't change the fact that we don't support unsupported versions of the OS. > For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free > operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret > race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since > otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't > work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a > strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all > but won already, and that's sickening. Ports are maintained by volunteers. If you would like to volunteer to support branches for longer periods of time, let's talk about that. > I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) > and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel > boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened > I feel about that. I think ports are really improving and the rate of improvement is going u= p. Steve --ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk-- --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlichi9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboRySB/91+3rkkAPZtz0n4xrdnOdbDB1DH2LQ CwjJr2pBrZr0YLeYufAPIEiD1lxPs5+Hn7yNFwlbLvt5YrK1j/DiPGXseJ/7oUB7 lcveLKNpPfo/31jwHH1E9mJ6ooy3ym1Anlmd5x8U18Tz6YwoWy463+pfzPo5HP0B brWEZuIZc00Qd8uUL0O7RDC0gDbW80O2nHGxvvAf8bLBkX1Ic6cyvjVvFAGq5a8m +97lpp8WWLHj+mDmtixTJPAxNyMQ6PANyU3tG3Fe1AUUBVK2pyjYfJj4p9IEtbML mGbowkw04awIy9jP7e6VYtkyI8Gxs93Cv9zJ4zEC6V0WIV6hzofTGCXP =Irl6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:21:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F57CD753D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9048A5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9DED0CD753C; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D985CD753B for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CC1E891 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19FLFAk000503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:21:22 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Franco Fichtner , Kirill Ponomarev References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports , list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se From: Steve Wills Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:21:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mmDOJKEwUvvut05SbBLWkA6Amrpwe3WQ3" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:21:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:21:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --mmDOJKEwUvvut05SbBLWkA6Amrpwe3WQ3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0dfvMKAAl5Ahf8hJquaF8JD2RQiqW68f4"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Franco Fichtner , Kirill Ponomarev Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports , list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> --0dfvMKAAl5Ahf8hJquaF8JD2RQiqW68f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 03:55, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: >> >> I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, >> the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more= , >=20 > I'm going to stop you right there. >=20 > That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of > maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and > worst of all no newcomers. I'm currently mentoring or co-mentoring 5 people. I've done everything else I can to encourage others to mentor, I think. If you have suggestions of someone who needs mentoring, let us know and we can try to find a mentor. There's nothing we can do about lack of maintainer feedback except reset maintainers. But keep in mind that lack of maintainer feedback shouldn't be an issue, we can commit changes after maintainer feedback timeout. > Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made > due to project management policies. What policies do you think need to be changed and in what specific ways? Steve --0dfvMKAAl5Ahf8hJquaF8JD2RQiqW68f4-- --mmDOJKEwUvvut05SbBLWkA6Amrpwe3WQ3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAliciOtfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboen4CACpEECzYv1BV/+aP8noy1TaCA3BCRIH fn06C1NrqYn82BuXCv3fWad4Y73r/AZbjcMqHYCuCxvo+Bmam1AS+kM2eUeTFBL4 nMH6UhRixDYPlZHpiAjvwk2ZEXJpgtWKHQegTJFvGb/pTPX/QnznJyJZYRvKyotN lewI/HLD3r0mO191xl/4ur0wgvuDinCdJBlCYpzd3Dk6xsS4s3ZrG0TCsz+yr1zW AYyQoV/rCc5sapsI2759DtAE1tbpGVkbt9+QcZc0coa+pN2XjFCX7l+llisBSuWG 7m6xR9jFYSqT0rXqjSNJ3GIjOH36BrbgLToUYRpAWVsgdJKA3D8Sgqrt =nLnb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mmDOJKEwUvvut05SbBLWkA6Amrpwe3WQ3-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:30:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2F2CD7778 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79D3BC2 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A4132CD7777; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B8BCD7776 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D043BC1; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18303849CF; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:30:21 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:30:20 +0100 Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:30:24 -0000 Hi Steve, > On 9 Feb 2017, at 4:09 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is > using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end > support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 would > you have ports maintain support? The issue is quite simple and cause of multiple issues: FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. And since pkg acts according to the imposed paradigm of a unified ABI, this will continue to be a source of problems for users who cannot know what's going on, lest even know how to fix it. They simply run: # pkg upgrade And then their systems are unusable *and* not fixable with pkg. What are they supposed to do? They come here. They want to make everyone aware that this is a serious issue that shouldn't repeat in FreeBSD 11. It's not to late to do that by pinning the pkg ABI to 11.0 by forcing the proper feature macros. Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:40:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39D9CD7DCA for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00911291 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D683FCD7DC6; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D599CCD7DC1; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AB45128E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbqpL-0000XE-BI; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:40:07 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbqpL-0004hT-9P; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:40:07 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:40:07 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "ports" , "timothy.bouquet" CC: "gecko" , "current" Subject: r313305 libevent2 problem and workaround NEED FIXING... Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 07:40:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:40:12 -0000 A huge six-day fix of seamonkey breakage on 11-CURRENT of april 2016, upgra= ded finally last night to pkg 12-CURRENT feb 2017 working and etc by base.txz=20 overwrite etc... ............................................... I've many many hours to restore the desktop to full how-it-was-before, but = as it is working, now, a wholesale 3xxx reinstall of ports by pkg (which had to occur OUT OF Xorg for stall issues... and lack of granularity in the use of "pkg upgrade" (ie thirty-by-thirty) or lack of code in "pkg install" (terse deinstalls necc. where reinstalls were needed) as of this date.... ................................................. Mostly fixed as I write from the fixed system, but the only reason I am usi= ng seamonkey now, and also fixed firefox, just then, is the series of commands... which = I expect to maybe re-break when v12 upgrades _4 seamonkey to _5 which broke (segfaults)= here from ports the port... but in the meantime .......................................... cp -iv /[backup mount}/usr/local/lib/libevent-2.0.so.5.10 /usr/local/lib/co= mpat/libevent-2.0.so.5 cp -iv /usr/local/lib/compat/libevent-2.0.so.5 /usr/ports/www/seamonkey/lib= event-2.0.so.5-NECC-FOR-SEAMONKEY .......................................... backup restored a newly overnight broken seamonkey AND firefox, the former = not as of a day or so from ports being able to run. ......................................... This is quite the showstopper here... almost forced a reinstall of 2004-201= 7 ( this desktop) to a 2016-STABLE v11 new disk.... which I may have to revert to if seamonke= y breaks again or the next iteration of libevent/seamonkey/firefox does not fix up with CLI s= uch as this time. .................................... Out of time for a PR or bug report offically, and hope to gain more pressing urgency to this problem than might be attained, that way... out of= time also. ................................... Thanks for reading, and thanks for putting up with interim list messages in= the last few days which still had a bit of almost PBKAC combined with lack of documentat= ion combined with newbie-ness here which had yet to resolve...=20 and thanks for the forum post(s) which helped resolve the seemingly-lost-ca= use issue of the v11-CURRENT upgrade to v12-CURRENT which appears to have worked today vs s= everal days ago, IF seamonkey continues to be fixable locally. .................................... J. Bouquet=20= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 15:47:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3A2CD819D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B919D1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 05843CD819C; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0529BCD819B for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5F619CE for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19Fl31m000767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:47:08 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Franco Fichtner References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:47:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:47:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:47:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Franco Fichtner Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Message-ID: <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: --TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 10:30, Franco Fichtner wrote: > Hi Steve, >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 4:09 PM, Steve Wills wrote: >> >> Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is >> using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end >> support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 woul= d >> you have ports maintain support? >=20 > The issue is quite simple and cause of multiple issues: >=20 > FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of > "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, > and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. >=20 > And since pkg acts according to the imposed paradigm of a unified > ABI, this will continue to be a source of problems for users who > cannot know what's going on, lest even know how to fix it. >=20 > They simply run: >=20 > # pkg upgrade >=20 > And then their systems are unusable *and* not fixable with pkg. >=20 > What are they supposed to do? They come here. They want to make > everyone aware that this is a serious issue that shouldn't repeat > in FreeBSD 11. It's not to late to do that by pinning the pkg ABI > to 11.0 by forcing the proper feature macros. They're supposed to upgrade to a supported version of FreeBSD. Steve --TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW-- --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicjvdfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsbofp9B/0Xg7gcHCShysnc1WqiuLTFGM7zadoz low2Dy5wJooXeEEB9LWSW7lrgDo2/80O570JyUyy+D8q7C0n5oHb9ZJL82LeEroW UsrEG0csz4St6YfbNpDuioCbK6vk8AOnnxPl6sKuWjgEI0klsm0kskPEkDeaGYR0 Xy4Tqm2Abb/hmTC4tHPJHVejZcesxl2JQr68BK/a8iAVFqJ98r2NXI8vFoQ8Zork kgGJNStTanop7sGNbwJvdfSrhT1qfqkRjlXfg63w7Uzy3NhXf33aj+GLCMV4SAfT 3p1yJkEPXwSzkRBlW63p4EWm8KQdd4gieHZH2gfrFlTRIO78dJUO1ma+ =xCKO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:01:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86679CD84B0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710641F32 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7055ECD84AF; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF5BCD84AE for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (host64.kissl.de [213.239.241.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38F9D1F31; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12F1B80D76; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:40 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:39 +0100 Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <192DBE4D-339A-4645-8C88-AE8BAD344346@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:01:44 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 4:47 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > They're supposed to upgrade to a supported version of FreeBSD. pkg won't refuse the upgrade. And at least if it upgraded, it should not break itself. Imagine a GUI-driven appliance being bricked. There is nobody who can tell it "fetch ports and build pkg to keep using it". Don't get me wrong. Automation around pkg is really good, though that doesn't warrant it's perfect (yet). Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:11:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F788CD85AC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4546D8 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 299BCCD85AB; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27862CD85AA for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E509E6D7 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19GB2nU000999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:11:08 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Franco Fichtner References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> <192DBE4D-339A-4645-8C88-AE8BAD344346@lastsummer.de> Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports From: Steve Wills Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:10:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <192DBE4D-339A-4645-8C88-AE8BAD344346@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="60cjegjPk2bTljNL0NlBkifVbiGHVK34r" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:11:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:11:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --60cjegjPk2bTljNL0NlBkifVbiGHVK34r Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="e00nHBXFTdf0MSrXdf0HHJwgPIAIcX2Q2"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Franco Fichtner Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> <192DBE4D-339A-4645-8C88-AE8BAD344346@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <192DBE4D-339A-4645-8C88-AE8BAD344346@lastsummer.de> --e00nHBXFTdf0MSrXdf0HHJwgPIAIcX2Q2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 11:01, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 4:47 PM, Steve Wills wrote: >> >> They're supposed to upgrade to a supported version of FreeBSD. >=20 > pkg won't refuse the upgrade. And at least if it upgraded, it > should not break itself. Even if the update of pkg were done before the upgrade of the OS, if the user ran "freebsd-update" to upgrade to 10.3, the version of pkg that it updated to would work properly. > Imagine a GUI-driven appliance being bricked. There is nobody > who can tell it "fetch ports and build pkg to keep using it". Vendors should be building their own packages. > Don't get me wrong. Automation around pkg is really good, though > that doesn't warrant it's perfect (yet). I agree it's good, and nothing is ever perfect. Steve --e00nHBXFTdf0MSrXdf0HHJwgPIAIcX2Q2-- --60cjegjPk2bTljNL0NlBkifVbiGHVK34r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAliclJJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsbocnhB/91AMbXXkmvv5gmw+9Ryo6ENF6UxFN1 WTMjqgOpv7afm9dzuD1m1xq4K+PpSaRa2K5ND1VZIs3cszNHUTBokeHoWDRliB1o eFAkbHRShE8oX4v+Ow1yG+QkV0Mj1pT0eORLFLNd30aJbyHWU5muO1hLp8NNQw7r nGI2C5Evy18miJJzS/EYT8GRWuHvgOLraivd2cLU/TqkWgXRGMKTSGFnPLD2C/jy pTFHMc2OpD4d4pCQMcPpZSv9MKJAQU46tQu6lPfy/dtF/OErVl/ltuGpLNICww3l flXRnUQo6molzmbU0LlkuAtaR6H2+XapXGk46YscZDutqIFnjuCfJJzi =JCq4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --60cjegjPk2bTljNL0NlBkifVbiGHVK34r-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:13:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57454CD874F for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4FFA00 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3C9CCCD874E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3CCCD874D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85C359FF; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v19GCn0Y079970 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:12:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua v19GCn0Y079970 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v19GCnRk079969; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:12:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:12:49 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Franco Fichtner Cc: Steve Wills , scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:13:01 -0000 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of > "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, > and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. Stop spreading FUD. There is no ABI breakage on stable/10 branch, nor there is a breakage in the package sets. We only promise backward-compatibility, and this works as advertized. A binary compiled on later system, is not guaranteed to work on the early system even on the same branch. The current package set for stable/10 is built on 10.3 and is only guaranteed to work on 10.3 and later. Trying to make arbitrary combinations of binaries and base systems outside of the scope of the project. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:14:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6DDCD8803 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2526DB12 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 24857CD8802; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24269CD8801 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E074CB11; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C407483270; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:14:10 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:14:10 +0100 Cc: scratch65535@att.net, Steve Wills , freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> To: Konstantin Belousov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:14:14 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:12 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: >> FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of >> "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, >> and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. > Stop spreading FUD. There is no ABI breakage on stable/10 branch, > nor there is a breakage in the package sets. We only promise > backward-compatibility, and this works as advertized. A binary compiled > on later system, is not guaranteed to work on the early system even on > the same branch. > > The current package set for stable/10 is built on 10.3 and is only > guaranteed to work on 10.3 and later. Trying to make arbitrary > combinations of binaries and base systems outside of the scope of the > project. You're contradicting yourself here. Either it's compatible or it isn't? Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:22:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B484CD8A5C for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2B9AEF6 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19GLwan001103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:22:04 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:21:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KLlMbnjmxsESVqnGLro5wtAT0rEGLWBTG" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:22:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:22:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KLlMbnjmxsESVqnGLro5wtAT0rEGLWBTG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="crFI1og7IDtmjwXL4osX9ASuOXw1cm6De"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> --crFI1og7IDtmjwXL4osX9ASuOXw1cm6De Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 11:14, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 > You're contradicting yourself here. Either it's compatible or it isn't= ? >=20 Not at all. There's a difference between backwards compatibility (binary built on older release works on newer release) and forwards compatibility (binary built on newer release works on older release). We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. Steve --crFI1og7IDtmjwXL4osX9ASuOXw1cm6De-- --KLlMbnjmxsESVqnGLro5wtAT0rEGLWBTG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAliclyVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboVjpCAClvlVpw768xHBbD0OPP16Uy7SSx+oU L2ErFPbPvjact/Owv9xXZU1DoCw1aMHh27FSRvTxuI0DRMHi4xV0oOync5H+VP0I XkeUnen+Vn0rlec+8OKFyPlkFkObkmM1GxTXecNb3TcF8cSPzbDdwDoalZNgnPmj QjivkVSKIfbVCnhyK1lx9xx+op3Wm37hf9tiTzFObFv5gn6QD2vYLOgMFWNjgMWr NiGJbbxbj1LmBrH8T6ulwyqovsue3ivVQFi4FLopOnbcPR/d3QpkmTj0kf32zxTR wXrDLdFYKq4OZ3dnUxKVDMWrObkKBmCRGythytXS/YamdXOBvEitiJl9 =dEEe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KLlMbnjmxsESVqnGLro5wtAT0rEGLWBTG-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:24:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D36CD8AEC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (host64.kissl.de [213.239.241.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0873105A; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 737B583271; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:24:47 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:24:47 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:24:50 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:21 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. But don't you see that users won't know this? This is a good theory, yet it is difficult in practice because it is not being enforced. Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:24:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A1DCD8B01 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE3E710C6; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4440183271; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:24:57 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:24:57 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:24:59 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:21 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. But don't you see that users won't know this? This is a good theory, yet it is difficult in practice because it is not being enforced. Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:26:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D1CD8BB3 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DC111E1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 38432CD8BB2; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F0FCD8BB1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE3FB11E0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cbrXk-000AIt-VW; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:26:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:26:01 -0000 Hi! > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > > FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of > > "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, > > and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. > Stop spreading FUD. There is no ABI breakage on stable/10 branch, > nor there is a breakage in the package sets. On the one hand: Maybe we can agree that the pkg binary breaking between different 10.x versions was unfortunate ? I understand that it was not a break of the ABI promises per se, but I can tell you, I was surprised as well, when it bite me 8-} On the other hand: Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:42:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F62CD620D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA271CFC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BF501562 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/5BF501562; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:42:45 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QDBE6gU1SC2ks8LUmu893AFCGbNbtxrwC" X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:42:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QDBE6gU1SC2ks8LUmu893AFCGbNbtxrwC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WiIgqBSvbjHMsvawJliC57dxU2GSBbOPa"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> --WiIgqBSvbjHMsvawJliC57dxU2GSBbOPa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017/02/09 16:24, Franco Fichtner wrote: >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:21 PM, Steve Wills wrote: >> >> We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. > But don't you see that users won't know this? Forward compatibility has been the ABI stability guarantee basically ever since there has been a FreeBSD project. Anything you compile now will continue to work on later OS versions. However you cannot guarantee it will work on earlier versions. The fact that newer binaries frequently will still work on older releases in no way invalidates this claim. That's just a reflection of the fact that the system ABIs do not change particularly frequently. > This is a good theory, yet it is difficult in practice because it is > not being enforced. Why do you think it is not being enforced? Forwards compatibility means that during the lifetime of a major branch you can only *add* symbols to the system shared libraries, not remove them nor modify any existing symbols. The project has held to that for many years -- not breaking ABI forwards compatibility is a really big deal amongst developers. Cheers, Matthew --WiIgqBSvbjHMsvawJliC57dxU2GSBbOPa-- --QDBE6gU1SC2ks8LUmu893AFCGbNbtxrwC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYnJwLXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnuHEP/0Vs4WKOaQMBp0PzZwXmQKFy LYNZoFy3SqdomUzmIKEpCS+Wpq5UurrLcgo9blvOYgInOLAyQuEb7S+MeghA7Jn2 dRjcbib+rScFpl62tT1+xuBBFL9CZbCc86znoULvtJK0FcM512/+Mp4w7p3K+QtO 93k8RchSq2NJ2QvAAU9AoG73Y+9lhx4q07AWdFaPoWgoure8KGLe//kkOcL66GWN jPgopOjkDowVrVFTCYDlwhpsikQphCIe1cXP4WkEmpMPioXbTbHc5dHOVQZp6HGk tRBst5W0EkFjIZ9qgZcD8BHoMFT7/5+666X4QmHKLCeLoRRvIwDvCxAN/SMHA/0S f2IGP6hDLgwygKCBeZgBq+NgeaQyIMm74z6/qfIA6VGPzNvf7FIgBxazGds2Xf5J ZYYaobZtJD7JOiSVghTXWh7qa+l/GtZOe5yNziQ5RhUE3+1Na2njLtZFkAAXxYYP WhyuI+ETFMslbqO2DYpYb5aZes3Ek7QfHQeva/DBECRDVrm/s5W43dpznXVV4GCk dsbdn+1HiqhK3PPN0oAnz+i/7Av8Vl9IOgpAUS22imeYPVwzfH4t5IezX6qugqJT Lpuje+YfCtiNwLwQ+7N72Z9r1uvFUHWDfQo7KklJN7DOnQfseUrEP5/yRJKGnQH4 Dc0U5s8uyFbDNCKOQRgN =DAsE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QDBE6gU1SC2ks8LUmu893AFCGbNbtxrwC-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:44:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A50ECD6299 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5E31DB6 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0AB42CD6297; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A60FCD6296 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA7C81DB0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FD8284CA; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:44:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-86-49-16-209.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.16.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFE87284F9; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:44:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Kurt Jaeger , Konstantin Belousov Cc: freebsd-ports References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Message-ID: <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:44:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:44:15 -0000 Kurt Jaeger wrote on 2017/02/09 17:26: > Hi! > >> On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: >>> FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of >>> "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, >>> and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. >> Stop spreading FUD. There is no ABI breakage on stable/10 branch, >> nor there is a breakage in the package sets. > > On the one hand: > > Maybe we can agree that the pkg binary breaking between different > 10.x versions was unfortunate ? I understand that it was not a > break of the ABI promises per se, but I can tell you, I was surprised > as well, when it bite me 8-} > > On the other hand: > > Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary > to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break > and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... I don't have a problem with pkg / ports but I see the point from some others perspective. Why don't add some check in to "pkg" to deny (or warn user) upgrade or install on unsupported / EOLed system? Just check version on current system against some metadata info in repository. Is it too much to ask? Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:53:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D715CD6627 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFF766DA for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19GrPsH001499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:30 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:53:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:53:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:53:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> --AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 11:24, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:21 PM, Steve Wills wrote: >> >> We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. >=20 > But don't you see that users won't know this? Users who don't know their software is no longer supported and refuse to update can't be helped, IMHO. > This is a good theory, yet it is difficult in practice because it is > not being enforced. What would enforcement look like? Something like "Sorry, you can't pkg update because this system isn't supported any more."? But how would that be possible without also breaking things for those who build/ship their own OS and packages? Steve --AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU-- --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicnoVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboYLFCACAKpegsX3DuLB0XFmI06WSJpF9ZA9c Xr/jhOV2s9vs98z1qQGoFDwzLdmNSV3wKuqgnpJUN0ppPLdUz8hchY/x/cU9bZMf bGdh5Qh/4MugmIYpnj+QDr+6UTjybhrakS2P0KV9nDz/vad/kmeiHetgmQ0nkABe +Kxa4swGE0wIYVCnvLEVfNYCW/IqdnQJiC/Z0tKgXOoBIpppbZb/44rEAM6pidjF Xt/VeiE5QCQsYznEEyCbjkAHzigm9JPFqDrVLGujE8dm4vvq+XY8BStxbA7xxww6 tMjfzMo9VkWVGelOOlE5SkhoBQ6f+6W5vutQgiZ88uRswP/0axH/nN0f =rqIP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:57:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC4FCD6725 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219D48C5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 20F94CD6723; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A3CCD6722 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 916538C1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v19Gurwr008388 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:56:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua v19Gurwr008388 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v19GurAH008387; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:56:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:56:53 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209165653.GM2092@kib.kiev.ua> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:57:03 -0000 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:26:00PM +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > > > FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of > > > "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, > > > and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. > > Stop spreading FUD. There is no ABI breakage on stable/10 branch, > > nor there is a breakage in the package sets. > > On the one hand: > > Maybe we can agree that the pkg binary breaking between different > 10.x versions was unfortunate ? I understand that it was not a > break of the ABI promises per se, but I can tell you, I was surprised > as well, when it bite me 8-} The pkg did not break. Your usage of it and probably assumptions which lead to that usage, are broken. It is as simple as never use a binary which was built for later system, on earlier. Even if the binary run, you get undefined results, e.g. data corruption. We even grow kern.disallow_high_osrel knob to help people, who cannot manage herself, to avoid shooting into their foot. There are some obvious drawbacks from setting this knob on by default, which explains why it is not set (it makes recovering from other user mistakes much harder and the failure mode much more fatal). > > On the other hand: > > Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary > to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break > and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... > > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:00:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07748CD68A4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2880B0D; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0462F839B9; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:00:44 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:00:44 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <503F12E7-8108-455E-9374-824C170AA754@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:00:47 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:53 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > What would enforcement look like? Something like "Sorry, you can't pkg > update because this system isn't supported any more."? But how would > that be possible without also breaking things for those who build/ship > their own OS and packages? Let me try another way: Since pkg has feature macros for building correctly on different FreeBSD versions, namely 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3, the way to provide binaries without missing symbols is to build pkg with a fixed set of feature macros for 10.0. I've done this for projects to retain upgrade paths. It's not hard. It doesn't violate a policy or promise FreeBSD makes, does it? Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:00:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F05CD68C6 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8833BB71; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10330839B9; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:00:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:00:53 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:00:54 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:53 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > What would enforcement look like? Something like "Sorry, you can't pkg > update because this system isn't supported any more."? But how would > that be possible without also breaking things for those who build/ship > their own OS and packages? Let me try another way: Since pkg has feature macros for building correctly on different FreeBSD versions, namely 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3, the way to provide binaries without missing symbols is to build pkg with a fixed set of feature macros for 10.0. I've done this for projects to retain upgrade paths. It's not hard. It doesn't violate a policy or promise FreeBSD makes, does it? Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:01:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BF4CD6907 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3D5C95 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1B856CD6906; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2C0CD6905 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB47BC93 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19H130J001662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:01:08 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Kurt Jaeger , Konstantin Belousov References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> Cc: freebsd-ports From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <4463ac7e-7f94-1203-a67a-2a5b8951b1fd@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:01:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2AOLrilo3fBo9OscuJg0d0Evemo6EEqI7" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:01:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:01:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2AOLrilo3fBo9OscuJg0d0Evemo6EEqI7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pWTLaBUakI47IDHP8LurGv8WSsh5IHknc"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Kurt Jaeger , Konstantin Belousov Cc: freebsd-ports Message-ID: <4463ac7e-7f94-1203-a67a-2a5b8951b1fd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> --pWTLaBUakI47IDHP8LurGv8WSsh5IHknc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 11:44, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Why don't add some check in to "pkg" to deny (or warn user) upgrade or > install on unsupported / EOLed system? > Just check version on current system against some metadata info in > repository. I would be happy to see a patch that showed how this might be done. > Is it too much to ask? It's always too much to ask another to do work for you for free. :) Steve --pWTLaBUakI47IDHP8LurGv8WSsh5IHknc-- --2AOLrilo3fBo9OscuJg0d0Evemo6EEqI7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicoE5fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsbofL6CACRCvBUYddX4A+Qi5ctyeEtE4IOIJ0x 1W3v4p+0+bsQH++JPc70/SNiHEJYW9pvS5hBA++oOUDL2SDqzadeFVRX0CuhyAkA +NjdXjtXB+ycJKroCbyUPDp4mREjimKGWzuyGcc5j9ucB0elkAmDFjv6By49acRd OPxUXGKKKOR2g+pMP4Om981ovs6Oyjd7jTqP84EhMiiOCEDM+QGLcoqkQ6DJT9j0 VBAY2cSB3FkIcLTHI0ckWAvpCMIb/7WKR6+qAP/HfvR63UtTnfGGCjkQ4CtP0b3R qV3X+oBFeW3ZmQOqoe7UJDWMhJPVE8exyWzOpM4Z8HWnSzKGx03SyY7G =ipHw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2AOLrilo3fBo9OscuJg0d0Evemo6EEqI7-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:03:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F86CD6BA8 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD29E10BE for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19H3d91001695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:03:44 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Franco Fichtner References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Steve Wills Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:03:38 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uNcilc3jMAhljrMdkvIctNnmIOQajl7vJ" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:03:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --uNcilc3jMAhljrMdkvIctNnmIOQajl7vJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="HW92S6esa3384xuUvkCpEROIIb2GTOi6M"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: Franco Fichtner Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: --HW92S6esa3384xuUvkCpEROIIb2GTOi6M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 12:00, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 > Let me try another way: >=20 > Since pkg has feature macros for building correctly on different > FreeBSD versions, namely 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3, the way to > provide binaries without missing symbols is to build pkg with a > fixed set of feature macros for 10.0. >=20 > I've done this for projects to retain upgrade paths. It's not > hard. It doesn't violate a policy or promise FreeBSD makes, does > it? >=20 Just because you don't use any features of the newer version doesn't mean it's safe to run binaries built for the newer version on the older version, as far as I understand it. Steve --HW92S6esa3384xuUvkCpEROIIb2GTOi6M-- --uNcilc3jMAhljrMdkvIctNnmIOQajl7vJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicoOpfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboVvxCACM1jHdmArLWlIsCs2/pXVWs5COw69+ NGs254P+FDdfKsFGFnjzhyXgbDwddhRcHfrhZ978Yhy1yS8x4Sw9u9FYIqwkOTpv o0HetJZSHWUGldIkL8V08LhnWQEdSnSO1CxF8mxw3BJoZ35mY3L3cvB3v+Cli8zH YkwsJcvEsmiYnv0GNLoHxqRgoKGvWhXhvVT/4k3CshGsxM/IBQlHgKQQ9G74u4ty 6TSEEmlzifY3fs3Tv+hs66JbgVE/eDB2l05AM14kzs930ji6BwrXlR9f4wa5kzdE n2hB0s1doWvhXwVXVw9mT1nupyTcyGGtkHQT+4bpV/fyZ2SO8MpjRq9D =+iKq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uNcilc3jMAhljrMdkvIctNnmIOQajl7vJ-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:04:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FBFCD6BE1 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD41150 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1C8E8CD6BDC; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1D5CD6BDA; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp209.alice.it (smtp209.alice.it [82.57.200.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EBF114D; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.52.25.226) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 588F429D01D7F5C4; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:57:53 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v19GvoNq009741; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:57:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: CFT upgrade to xorg 1.18.4 and newer intel/ati DDX To: Baptiste Daroussin , x11@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20170123235516.o5lvu3sfwq5r5tsq@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <145494a4-8a14-76a4-d8f7-ca86bddf4e29@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:57:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170123235516.o5lvu3sfwq5r5tsq@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:04:04 -0000 On 01/24/17 00:55, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a call for testing for newer Xorg along with newer drivers: intel and > ati. Hello. Thanks for your work. I'm willing to test this, since I'm experiencing frequent X lock ups on an Intel-based laptop. I applied your patch to my port tree and added the following to my poudriere's build list: x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati (this is for another PC) x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel However xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse fail with: > ... > checking for asprintf... (cached) yes > checking for XORG... no > configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.7 xproto inputproto) were not met: > > Package dri3proto was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dri3proto.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > Package 'dri3proto', required by 'xorg-server', not found > > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > installed software in a non-standard prefix. > > Alternatively, you may set the environment variables XORG_CFLAGS > and XORG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. > See the pkg-config man page for more details. > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. I had never built these ports with poudriere before and they build manually, so I'm not saying these patches are the culprit... I'm just quite new to poudriere and looking for hints. Thanks for any pointer. bye av. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:06:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2486CD6D79 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7772E1300; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v19H6MBU033880 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Feb 2017 19:06:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua v19H6MBU033880 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v19H6Md8033878; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 19:06:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 19:06:22 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209170622.GN2092@kib.kiev.ua> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:06:28 -0000 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:42:45PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Why do you think it is not being enforced? Forwards compatibility means > that during the lifetime of a major branch you can only *add* symbols to > the system shared libraries, not remove them nor modify any existing > symbols. The project has held to that for many years -- not breaking > ABI forwards compatibility is a really big deal amongst developers. We try hard to not break ABI backward compatibility between branches as well, at least for user code (see below). In particular, versioned libraries in base must be fully backward compatible between branches. Whole set of the base C runtime libraries is versioned, i.e. rtld/libc/libthr/libm. libc++ is versioned as well. For non-versioned libraries, our promise is that on ABI breakage of any kind, the library version (the libXXX.so.N, the N part) is bumped so backward compatibility can be provided in some form by installing previous version of the library. This is done, besides other means, by misc/compatX ports. The explanation above is of course, simplified, and somewhat incorrect. To make it correct would require amount of work which is apparently too much for single person to do and still be sane. You can see it that the project' ABI promise is not formalized even on wiki. Place were ABI is very badly broken regularly is the management interfaces. For instance, you are almost guaranteed that ifconfig(8) from a major branch works only with the kernels on the same branch, and even then, you must have the binary built with headers from very close kernel version. Same for cam(4). Formalizing these exceptions is the hard part of writing the ABI guarantee document. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:07:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE620CD6DE5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8447913C0; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF9868241A; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:07:25 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:07:25 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <37CCAB80-C18B-4C29-B196-FEC5ECAF551A@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:07:27 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 6:03 PM, Steve Wills wrote: > > Just because you don't use any features of the newer version doesn't > mean it's safe to run binaries built for the newer version on the older > version, as far as I understand it. True. :) Yet the reports are for missing symbols in pkg and how to fix. It beats pulling a ports tree and rebuilding pkg which may or may not end up being replaced by a newer repo version on the next pkg upgrade. Plus you still get to garbage-collect compatibility features during major upgrade jumps. Fixing this issue in 25k at the same times ends up delaying a workable solution, whatever it may be. pkg first, then the rest, no? Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 17:09:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A029CD6E5B for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8F1816B7 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B32715A9 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/5B32715A9; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <16490599-dc62-f6ba-cf3c-0dceab96981b@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:09:10 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="75o2OUUpB8EdDQhmnEIAFveCNA1brIIX0" X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:09:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --75o2OUUpB8EdDQhmnEIAFveCNA1brIIX0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Vm7g692O10d3VQCfhG48kuXCGHMea7cGP"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <16490599-dc62-f6ba-cf3c-0dceab96981b@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <589C9C59.4050705@quip.cz> --Vm7g692O10d3VQCfhG48kuXCGHMea7cGP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09/17 16:44, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Why don't add some check in to "pkg" to deny (or warn user) upgrade or > install on unsupported / EOLed system? > Just check version on current system against some metadata info in > repository. Actually the metadata should be in the package, rather than the repository. We need to record the OS version the package was compiled under at the point the package is created, and then pkg(8) can compare that to the OS version at install time. This will work not just for the FreeBSD pkg repos, but for packages built for private repos too. And it will still work, even if you grab a bunch of packages from somewhere else and make your own repo from them. Even so, pkg(8) should not refuse to install the newer package on the older system; just emit a big fat warning that what you're doing is dangerous, and may lead you into regret and grief. (Unix has a tradition of not stopping users from doing stupid things, because that also makes it possible to do amazingly clever things...) This is complicated by such things as 'NO_ARCH' packages -- your pure perl/ruby/python code is still going to work almost regardless of the OS version. As will all sorts of type fonts or collections of desktop icons and so forth. Plus this will need to be carefully debugged when packages are cross-compiled or compiled in jails on a host system with a different kernel version. 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Is that right? > >> the problem is that the internal APIs of ports are changing too much. > Sorry, what do you mean? Can you define "too much" change? the specification of what you are getting is intermixed too much with the makefile components that interact with the .mk files. In a slightly theoretical world you would have two files.. one says "MAJOR=2 ; MINOR=2" (or similar) , and specifies the checksums etc and the other gives options and dependencies (which don't usually change as fast as you think) but uses all the complicted USES stuff for example. so you couth PROBABLY get a range of module versions to compile with the same base makefile as long as it matches the .mk files. > >> If you are going to change the API, then you need to be able to declare >> the version separately, maybe in a version/distinfo file that can be >> pulled in separately at a different rev, rather than having it built >> into the main Makefile of each port. Maybe the Makefile specifies a >> revision range it can be used with, but that would make a huge >> improvement right there. > The idea of having ports/packages support a version range for > dependencies is an interesting one, but I'm not sure how that would work. > >> You can not just slide one port up by 3 months, and another down by 3 >> months to get the revs one needs because the damned Mk files have >> changed. If I coudl leave the bulk of the Makefile alone and just slide >> the 'distingo/rev' file, (or be able to select a rev from one htat gives >> many alternatives, that woudl be "wonderful". > You're better off finding the tree that has the right version of the > oldest thing you need to use and then updating the things that you need > updated. but that is not reproducible in source control > >> Please, ports framework people, think about how this can be done, If I >> have to edit a file, the game is lost. >> >> Can we please get some understanding from ports people that they are >> making things REALLY HARD on vendors and it really strengthens the hands >> of the "ditch FreeBSD and go to Linux" crowd when I need to spend a >> whole week trying to integrate in a set of 5 new ports into the product. >> >> The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want of >> each package and type make" is often heard around the company. And >> management is not totally deaf. >> >> If you want to see how its' done better (still not perfect), go build a >> busybox system. you can effectively select any version of any tool and >> they all communicate via the pkgconf mechanism and you get the result >> you want.(mostly). And the API is stable. > Sounds like you've got a lot of folks who are used to the "LTS" mindset > where they never have to update their software to work with newer > versions. But ports is a rolling release in the head branch and > quarterly for those branches, and that's how it is going to be unless > someone wants to volunteer to maintain branches for longer. The LTS > thing works because people are paid to back port fixes and you can get > those for free. Commercial products are Hardly EVER rolling releases. they lurch from point of stability to point of stability, with large amounts of testing between releases. >> On the pkg side of things we need the ability for pkg to say "yeah I >> know I'm looking for foo-1.2.3.txz as a perfect match, but I've been >> given some slack on the third digit and I can see a foo-1.2.1.txz, so >> I'll install that instead". > I'm not sure how you would do that in a general way that didn't add > extra work for package maintainers. pkg would have to do it looking in the pkg index. > >> Otherwise we just have to spend WAY too much time generating dozens of >> "matching sets" of packages , that must be kept around forever if just >> one machine shipped with that set, not to mention the fact that making >> the matching set is often a real task. > Packages should generally be maintained as sets, rather than individual > packages, IMHO. See "required by different teams" in the first email. > >> The way to get around the problem above CAN be (not always) to install >> foo.1.2.1 first and THEN install the package you actually want, and pkg >> will accept it. The problem comes when pkg needs to install a dependency >> itself. Then it becomes "super picky", when there is actually a range of >> package revisions that would do. Instead of letting pkg install what it >> needs, we need to manually set up scripts to install the dependencies. >> so that all the work done by pkg is wasted. >> >> >> Please think about these two issues.. > You can always use 'pkg lock' to lock a particular version of a package. > > Steve solution by sledgehammer > From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 18:03:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478BFCD399A for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B4DE71 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2E8E0CD3998; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF49CD3996; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a098::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB955E6F; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [10.44.139.220] (nat-192-187-90-115.nat.tribpub.com [192.187.90.115]) by vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 84651eef TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: CFT upgrade to xorg 1.18.4 and newer intel/ati DDX To: Andrea Venturoli , Baptiste Daroussin , x11@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20170123235516.o5lvu3sfwq5r5tsq@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <145494a4-8a14-76a4-d8f7-ca86bddf4e29@netfence.it> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: <99df4935-8d14-5f2a-7b24-ac2914670384@nomadlogic.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:03:06 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <145494a4-8a14-76a4-d8f7-ca86bddf4e29@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:03:08 -0000 On 02/09/2017 08:57, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 01/24/17 00:55, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> This is a call for testing for newer Xorg along with newer drivers: >> intel and >> ati. > > Hello. > Thanks for your work. > > I'm willing to test this, since I'm experiencing frequent X lock ups > on an Intel-based laptop. > > I applied your patch to my port tree and added the following to my > poudriere's build list: > x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati (this is for another PC) > x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard > x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel > > However xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse fail with: > > ... >> checking for asprintf... (cached) yes >> checking for XORG... no >> configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.7 xproto >> inputproto) were not met: >> >> Package dri3proto was not found in the pkg-config search path. >> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dri3proto.pc' >> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable >> Package 'dri3proto', required by 'xorg-server', not found >> >> >> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you >> installed software in a non-standard prefix. >> >> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables XORG_CFLAGS >> and XORG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. >> See the pkg-config man page for more details. >> ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > I have run into the same issue, and I have reported this to the maintainers. This diff resolved the issue on my end, which allowed all Xorg packages to build: $ git diff Mk/bsd.xorg.mk diff --git a/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk b/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk index 295d7b9112a6..6110936583a3 100644 --- a/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk +++ b/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ USE_XORG+= xorg-macros . if ${XORG_CAT} == "driver" USE_XORG+= xorg-server xproto randrproto xi renderproto xextproto \ - inputproto kbproto fontsproto videoproto dri2proto xf86driproto \ + inputproto kbproto fontsproto videoproto dri2proto dri3proto xf86driproto \ presentproto glproto xineramaproto resourceproto scrnsaverproto # work around a llvm bug on i386, llvm bug #15806 # reproduced with clang 3.2 (current release) and 3.1 I believe this fix will be included in the upcoming release. basically we need to ensure that dri3proto is built along with Xorg as I believe some of the newer xorg drivers have a hard dependency on dri3. HTH, -pete From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 20:21:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD6BCD808E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 456FA26C; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvDT-0000Vu-BZ; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:21:19 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade deletes firefox? References: Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:21:18 +0100 Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (FreeBSD) X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 398f5522cb258ce43cb679602f8cfe8b62a256d1 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Scan-Signature: 7006e789400ccdeb5065f5d065827fb5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:21:22 -0000 Interesting: # 21:12:51 root@sjakie [~] pkg install firefox Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: No packages available to install matching 'firefox' have been found in the repositories I guess this is a temporary hickup. Ronald. On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:12:28 +0100, Ronald Klop wrote: > Hi, > > Today I get this... > > # 21:08:42 root@sjakie [~] > pkg upgrade > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.0MB/s 00:02 > Processing entries: 100% > FreeBSD repository update completed. 25950 packages processed. > Checking for upgrades (13 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (13 candidates): 100% > The following 13 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > Installed packages to be REMOVED: > firefox-51.0.1,1 > > Installed packages to be UPGRADED: > xkeyboard-config: 2.19 -> 2.20 > xconsole: 1.0.6_1 -> 1.0.7 > xauth: 1.0.9_1 -> 1.0.10 > vim-lite: 8.0.0252 -> 8.0.0301 > tmux: 2.3 -> 2.3_1 > opencollada: 1.6.25 -> 1.6.37 > mplayer: 1.3.0.20161228_2 -> 1.3.0.20161228_3 > libevent2: 2.0.22_1 -> 2.1.8 > libass: 0.13.5 -> 0.13.6 > gstreamer1: 1.8.0 -> 1.8.0_1 > gstreamer: 0.10.36_5 -> 0.10.36_6 > ffmpeg: 3.2.2_5,1 -> 3.2.2_6,1 > > Number of packages to be removed: 1 > Number of packages to be upgraded: 12 > > The operation will free 124 MiB. > 25 MiB to be downloaded. > > Proceed with this action? 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[141.136.229.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m188sm224044wma.0.2017.02.09.12.23.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 12:23:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:23:05 +0100 From: Domagoj Stolfa To: Ronald Klop Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: pkg upgrade deletes firefox? Message-ID: <20170209202305.GA73505@mobile> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:23:12 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This is due to the DTRACE option breaking the Firefox build currently. You can compile it from ports by disabling the DTRACE option. -- Best regards, Domagoj Stolfa On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 09:21:18PM +0100, Ronald Klop wrote: > Interesting: > > # 21:12:51 root@sjakie [~] > pkg install firefox > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: No packages available to install matching 'firefox' have been found > in the repositories > > I guess this is a temporary hickup. > > Ronald. > > > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:12:28 +0100, Ronald Klop > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Today I get this... > > > > # 21:08:42 root@sjakie [~] > > pkg upgrade > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > > Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 > > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.0MB/s 00:02 > > Processing entries: 100% > > FreeBSD repository update completed. 25950 packages processed. > > Checking for upgrades (13 candidates): 100% > > Processing candidates (13 candidates): 100% > > The following 13 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > > > Installed packages to be REMOVED: > > firefox-51.0.1,1 > > > > Installed packages to be UPGRADED: > > xkeyboard-config: 2.19 -> 2.20 > > xconsole: 1.0.6_1 -> 1.0.7 > > xauth: 1.0.9_1 -> 1.0.10 > > vim-lite: 8.0.0252 -> 8.0.0301 > > tmux: 2.3 -> 2.3_1 > > opencollada: 1.6.25 -> 1.6.37 > > mplayer: 1.3.0.20161228_2 -> 1.3.0.20161228_3 > > libevent2: 2.0.22_1 -> 2.1.8 > > libass: 0.13.5 -> 0.13.6 > > gstreamer1: 1.8.0 -> 1.8.0_1 > > gstreamer: 0.10.36_5 -> 0.10.36_6 > > ffmpeg: 3.2.2_5,1 -> 3.2.2_6,1 > > > > Number of packages to be removed: 1 > > Number of packages to be upgraded: 12 > > > > The operation will free 124 MiB. > > 25 MiB to be downloaded. > > > > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: > > > > > > Why would upgrade want to remove firefox? > > > > Regards, > > Ronald. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEHQB+y96lmmv+IXofwxT+ikb0YU4FAlicz6YACgkQwxT+ikb0 YU4QqAf7BFJDXDGrnxSFdtRXO7HwTUarYLSEeFWIOvF2wARYBOGCzxzcNO76vgeI 7n1Aw82R/D7StOrOCDeTqDNAECTb2eG8d9VobZCraVIc7h5D+yVf64ul8L2FX+s7 WfQTxC0MdPUaik7ZsnAy9sSCXApjmryH8utbQCpyzilGpPRAYMjLVh1tOLkg3xhM RzI7WbWUMawISy0p/EqedVOIE8GU7OnuvcUsGqROiWggoMiZrvMbjQcfnv71LLoz qgHDIEiY4o23lMbgyhcjARbkSRsxQMwlQ9ZTNVRBJBpLEByvTatuplQ7PewF8hzG BxP8TUquhvUhthZH1QSJP7cCeA6ASw== =3210 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 23:04:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E38CD8780 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@waschbuesch.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6EF1B30 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@waschbuesch.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C9492CD877E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F30CD877D for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@waschbuesch.de) Received: from relay.waschbuesch.it (relay.waschbuesch.it [IPv6:2a00:cba0:0:100::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.waschbuesch.it", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B0C91B2E; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@waschbuesch.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=waschbuesch.de; s=dkim; h=To:References:Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pTHZF56VexZx+sdsMxzy2RYa4z5iX5n4LY8JuPOAmd4=; b=elUW+7RJXAlimCYrWKsywmAm6 JgVv90I+YWQ1o/3SswygJHAr4HEPSGajMx+Upifwj7xpKC6N7uYCVgqxP+sMu7C3LFSMmIaNrDT78 l7BG/SwqTZo8g/hp55hvGWhvvWAhLUTJix3H0FiCPrkzPGtulPBBXpfz1ft958VErKq6I=; Received: by relay.waschbuesch.it with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1cbxlO-000HNe-4l; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:04:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell From: =?utf-8?Q?Martin_Waschb=C3=BCsch?= In-Reply-To: <34e34525-0e54-9033-270f-d1b9ddacd3db@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 00:04:27 +0100 Cc: Steve Wills , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1128C01F-C76E-470B-BF74-06480B08D8E7@waschbuesch.de> References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <6e92ff1b-78ef-d6c2-83e7-059122977783@FreeBSD.org> <34e34525-0e54-9033-270f-d1b9ddacd3db@freebsd.org> To: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:04:34 -0000 > Am 09.02.2017 um 18:14 schrieb Julian Elischer : >=20 > Commercial products are Hardly EVER rolling releases. > they lurch from point of stability to point of stability, with large = amounts of testing between releases. >>> On the pkg side of things we need the ability for pkg to say "yeah I >>> know I'm looking for foo-1.2.3.txz as a perfect match, but I've been >>> given some slack on the third digit and I can see a foo-1.2.1.txz, = so >>> I'll install that instead". >> I'm not sure how you would do that in a general way that didn't add >> extra work for package maintainers. > pkg would have to do it looking in the pkg index. For every package depending on another as a building block, there are constraints as to which version (or range of versions) can satisfy the dependency. If more than one package depend on the same building blocks but (which is more likely than not) depend on different versions (or ranges of versions) of that package, the constraints become ever stricter, narrowing down the possible combinations. When installing just a limited few packages then maybe knowing about compatible ranges of versions of those packages would allow for more flexibility, but it does not sound practical at all: A specific version of package A can be compiled against all versions of library B v1.1, 1.2 or 1.3. Now, unless the exposed symbols where identical for all three versions, we would need to build a binary package for every combination of A and B. And we have not even considered what other versions of package A people might want to install... REALLY few packages and versions are needed before this becomes totally unfeasible. Now, as I see it, what pkg tries to do is for each snapshot to have as few conflicts as possible when you mix and match arbitrary packages by doing pkg install . I am not saying there are no conflicts, but the system and the package maintainers(!) do a great job of keeping packages both up to date and compatible to each other. You get that stability by not having a lot of choice where versions are concerned. But if you need more control over versions and package options, poudriere offers a very flexible way to create a customized (sub)set of pkgs tailored to your needs. Do the default pkg repo or poudriere cover all possible scenarios? No way! But I fail to understand how they could be expected to do that. Thus, what you describe sounds, imho, like wanting to eat the cake and have it. Martin= From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 01:51:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB902CD83B2 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f740:c::4ae]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 960D79E for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:1c2:1401:9956:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2849650007 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:fe80::7102:4df8:1f13:5c55] (unknown [IPv6:fe80::7102:4df8:1f13:5c55]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D4D21688 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:51:00 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Mel Pilgrim Subject: Can't set maintainer-approval+ flag on an attachment Message-ID: <705473bd-9e65-ff1e-1a2d-9111854ff87d@bluerosetech.com> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:51:04 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:51:02 -0000 A PR for a port I maintain includes a patch. I'm supposed to set the maintainer-approval flag to + to approve the patch, but it doesn't seem to be working. When I go to the patch details page, I can set maintainer-approval+, but it doesn't stick, even if I include a comment. I found an older thread[1] from this list which mentions the patch has to be set to maintainer-approval? with my email address before I'm able to set maintainer-approval+. The patch did not have maintainer-approval? set. Is that bug still unfixed? 1: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-March/098255.html From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 05:53:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18356CD7FC8 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 05:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from anoxia.adamw.org (anoxia.adamw.org [104.225.8.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "anoxia.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D036F1CF4 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 05:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by anoxia.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 43a7deca TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 22:53:10 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Can't set maintainer-approval+ flag on an attachment From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <705473bd-9e65-ff1e-1a2d-9111854ff87d@bluerosetech.com> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 22:53:08 -0700 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <025A28A9-0B23-456A-A7BB-E78B76CAF7FE@adamw.org> References: <705473bd-9e65-ff1e-1a2d-9111854ff87d@bluerosetech.com> To: Mel Pilgrim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 05:53:12 -0000 > On 9 Feb, 2017, at 18:51, Mel Pilgrim = wrote: >=20 > A PR for a port I maintain includes a patch. I'm supposed to set the = maintainer-approval flag to + to approve the patch, but it doesn't seem = to be working. When I go to the patch details page, I can set = maintainer-approval+, but it doesn't stick, even if I include a comment. = I found an older thread[1] from this list which mentions the patch has = to be set to maintainer-approval? with my email address before I'm able = to set maintainer-approval+. The patch did not have = maintainer-approval? set. Is that bug still unfixed? >=20 > 1: = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-March/098255.html Which PR? # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 06:45:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28344CD8F24 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D8B198A for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 13320CD8F22; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B79CD8F21; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp207.alice.it (smtp207.alice.it [82.57.200.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9070F1988; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.52.25.226) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 588F4283023A3111; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:45:01 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1A6iwD1075705; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:45:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: CFT upgrade to xorg 1.18.4 and newer intel/ati DDX To: Pete Wright References: <20170123235516.o5lvu3sfwq5r5tsq@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <145494a4-8a14-76a4-d8f7-ca86bddf4e29@netfence.it> <99df4935-8d14-5f2a-7b24-ac2914670384@nomadlogic.org> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , x11@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:44:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99df4935-8d14-5f2a-7b24-ac2914670384@nomadlogic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:45:19 -0000 On 02/09/17 19:03, Pete Wright wrote: > I have run into the same issue, and I have reported this to the > maintainers. This diff resolved the issue on my end, which allowed all > Xorg packages to build: Thanks. Solved here too. bye av. 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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 12:26:32 -0000 On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote >Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary >to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break >and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and obsoleting? I haven't, but I'd like to read it if you know of an attempted defence! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 13:21:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22674CD6F7F for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041E1793 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 007C5CD6F7E; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0022BCD6F7D for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm10-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACA3D792 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486732650; bh=aCkzqcn09cZUwlTu4eXQ3WwVX3SvRJbiMceFrNDE/14=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=1zB87jj3DaBTiq3Wa9UXYxEkuUxDSu6SZKZVMDNtxacFBXtOzJQJGH/mWEnMQNHNTvj/a+d1Gq63dj4WPwRfhQ9NScRgyybM+86eyhn3w9peBz53Ft70MtDMGANQzvWvgh8YU1OoFshW71u7/KuHSqmnhv2SWow/MHDYJbRfVnQ= Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2017 13:17:30 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.144] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2017 13:17:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2017 13:17:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 93585.92771.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hkPJPZEVM1lw1efFWobXal3QnaVuUVRR3WfPh_28Lmpkq.d WS.vf..hFZy6Qh5WcQwkf92NMfTj91DqhnEzK0H1G0YAywpQq6rqK87cPqRL f3lN3RJe3khn97tLny7nmQEa7wEmd2Xv8VsfJJfyKNM9N4tLnZs.lWv4B_nF _ekCrpo4VezS1jevM08dPedJ2fEJNSL06bKbU06octr3VzIbps_OL..uN2Zm 7JT7pXK.Zuzy_WP66l22D0CSR0u0rJgvxMJtd1xiBcsCc05.2w2BrY3WjHMT IociQ25dqObDKUhegCOHyyAWq4.xqzZW1U3i2NVN7ZdwVjvt2Z3cJVsNxuNW UKvU._bfsjnWPZr4oCuHRD55Jsnce8cCeb3N86uFFHcy5sOu_5e3qt6KHbSH kUxnrFnwDO.SGWH0jtsFIRsXYdlr5it8J8P6SyXLSGWGDTW.5Z8UHKDN0Uos sn9FHcACgfcTgAFGHPcUvNGs_YEjnt0C8QYXkne_kuqNjpF6I6QQjjctzGU3 QmHKwSYlhN5f1NhrUOEqHFi89nKb6jU2T0g_f1dOo.oqNJFXtVGgr5b8wBWc RruMKcqzXWjB7yFj_4RrICg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 08:17:31 -0500 Message-ID: <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:21:02 -0000 On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:09:35 -0500, Steve Wills wrote: >Hi, > >On 02/08/2017 12:34, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> >> I *did* check for bug reports. I did a search on "utimenstat" >> and found exactly one, which had been withdrawn as not being a >> bug. >> >> But it *is* a bug. It's a bug on several levels, the most >> significant of which is that the overly frantic schedule makes >> versions have the lifespan of a mayfly. And we're told "just >> upgrade", as though there's some physical law mandating the >> craziness. > >Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is >using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end >support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 would >you have ports maintain support? A good rule of thumb from industry in the case of major software would be "forever", meaning until it's very unlikely that anyone is still using it because of hardware obsolescence, etc. "Support" for out-of-rev software need be no more than disc space, if that's all that can be afforded. I'd have been happy to get that package I thought I would get--it never occurred to me that the packages for 10.2 would all be summarily purged! > >> There are people for whom the system is a tool, not a hobby. They >> don't want to have to rebuild their tools any more than >> carpenters want to replace their hammers and levels every year or >> two. > >If you've having trouble upgrading that are causing you to rebuild, then >that's a different issue, but not one I can help with. It doesn't change >the fact that we don't support unsupported versions of the OS. But the transition to "unsupported" is not a function of physical law. It's a human choice, and can be revisited any time people are willing to do so. Why is Linux able to so easily replace FreeBSD? The desktop is gone. Servers are going. The new AMD chips are being tested against Intel on Linux boxes, not FreeBSD boxes. FreeBSD is being made obsolete. This not happening by accident. And it won't stop by itself. > >> For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free >> operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret >> race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since >> otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't >> work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a >> strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all >> but won already, and that's sickening. > >Ports are maintained by volunteers. If you would like to volunteer to >support branches for longer periods of time, let's talk about that. I'm a customer. I'm one of the people for whom the dev and porting work is supposedly being done. The problem is the lunatic turnover rate. It prevents things from being done in any kind of measured way. It's all firefighting, all the time. That guarantees that things fall through the cracks, tempers get short, and people burn out. Who benefits? > >> I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) >> and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel >> boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened >> I feel about that. > >I think ports are really improving and the rate of improvement is going up. Then why is Linux everywhere and fBSD is circling the drain? From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 16:46:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332D5CD9508 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF717D6 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F597CD9507; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F099CD9506 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37DB7D5 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ccEKt-000LU6-UL; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:46:18 -0000 Hi! > On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote > >Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary > >to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break > >and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... > > But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do not have alternatives. > Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even > tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and > obsoleting? Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? And if we try to keep up and for this, if we add features to the ports framework ? I'm doing this (application mgmt on unix systems) for a long time now, a quarter of a century, and I see no viable alternative in the problem space we work in. I also see that this very fast speed uses up huge amounts of person power and compute resources (all those folks rebuilding many ports in their build hosts). But it's not easy to stop off this planet 8-} -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 21:18:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D439CD9772 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CDE1064 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 86603CD9771; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860CFCD9770 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D2331063 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D45A7C1A; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:18:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:18:49 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:18:52 -0000 On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 08:17:31AM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > A good rule of thumb from industry in the case of major software > would be "forever", meaning until it's very unlikely that anyone > is still using it because of hardware obsolescence, etc. (Sigh.) And how many people do you think it takes to do such support? > Why is Linux able to so easily replace FreeBSD? The desktop is > gone. Servers are going. The new AMD chips are being tested > against Intel on Linux boxes, not FreeBSD boxes. FreeBSD is > being made obsolete. In other words, if we move fast enough to try to keep up with Linux changes, FreeBSD is obsolete. If we move more slowly than Linux, then FreeBSD is obsolete. I'm being serious. We get criticized either way. Also, for package sets, consider that size * each OS release * each architecture (ok, some architectures) = a lot of disk space. We simply have finite disk space. IMHO, the days that we can expect ports maintainers and committers to keep e.g. a FreeBSD 4.11 viable for years are over. By the EOL of 4.11, we were asking volunteers to support *4* major OS releases. That was crazy. As for the OS releases, we're trying to keep up with new disk technologies, new ways of booting, new wireless techniques, graphics APIs that change rapidly, and on and on. The pace of these changes is outside our control. We can keep up or become irrelevant. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 10 23:03:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E6DCD9789 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C048135B for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BFACECD9788; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5E7CD9787 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03CC35A for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OL60043CIYJW510@hades.sorbs.net> for ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:11:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Mark Linimon , scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:02:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 In-reply-to: <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:03:05 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 08:17:31AM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> A good rule of thumb from industry in the case of major software >> would be "forever", meaning until it's very unlikely that anyone >> is still using it because of hardware obsolescence, etc. > (Sigh.) And how many people do you think it takes to do such support? > >> Why is Linux able to so easily replace FreeBSD? The desktop is >> gone. Servers are going. The new AMD chips are being tested >> against Intel on Linux boxes, not FreeBSD boxes. FreeBSD is >> being made obsolete. > In other words, if we move fast enough to try to keep up with Linux > changes, FreeBSD is obsolete. If we move more slowly than Linux, then > FreeBSD is obsolete. > > I'm being serious. We get criticized either way. > > Also, for package sets, consider that size * each OS release * each > architecture (ok, some architectures) = a lot of disk space. We > simply have finite disk space. > > IMHO, the days that we can expect ports maintainers and committers to > keep e.g. a FreeBSD 4.11 viable for years are over. By the EOL of 4.11, > we were asking volunteers to support *4* major OS releases. That was > crazy. > > As for the OS releases, we're trying to keep up with new disk technologies, > new ways of booting, new wireless techniques, graphics APIs that change > rapidly, and on and on. The pace of these changes is outside our control. > We can keep up or become irrelevant. > Or the last strong hold you have - the server owners - get so p**sed off in reality they can't keep up with the OS updates that they migrate away... FreeBSD seems to have entered (trying to enter) the desktop market... good luck competing with Apple and Microsoft... I guess FreeBSD will be the next Solaris. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 00:20:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C9ACDAB78 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF87DCE9 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id ABE77CDAB77; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8B2CDAB76 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90F84CE8 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35899BE2; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:20:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:20:36 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Michelle Sullivan Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170211002035.GA11637@lonesome.com> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:44 -0000 On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:02:41PM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Or the last strong hold you have - the server owners - get so p**sed off in > reality they can't keep up with the OS updates that they migrate away... So we should give up on EFI, 4k drives, and SSD? mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 08:08:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062B6CDBBDD for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76AFB38 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E6E38CDBBDC; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69B2CDBBDB for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (portscout.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9FF2B37 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.ysv.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.123]) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1B87xKe093018 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.ysv.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1B87xEm093017; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <201702110807.v1B87xEm093017@portscout.ysv.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.ysv.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:07:59 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:08:00 -0000 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. 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From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 08:51:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4CDCDAB72 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A913A6 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 157C3CDAB71; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151C2CDAB70 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C1A13A4 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OL7001EECZTRG00@hades.sorbs.net> for ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:59:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: Mark Linimon Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211002035.GA11637@lonesome.com> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <87172bcd-3305-0e80-ddea-81f388291e2b@sorbs.net> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 09:51:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 In-reply-to: <20170211002035.GA11637@lonesome.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:51:46 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:02:41PM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Or the last strong hold you have - the server owners - get so p**sed off in >> reality they can't keep up with the OS updates that they migrate away... > So we should give up on EFI, 4k drives, and SSD? > > Not what I said, suggested or thought. There is a difference between adding drivers and installation/boot tools and an incessant push to get people to upgrade every (what seems like 5 minutes)... yes I know it's longer than that, it might be a year, it might be two, but the hardware is outlasting (by a long way) the OS. Tell me.... What is the reason for me upgrading those few production servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... baring in mind the following: The tools/utilities in the base OS (ntp, ssh, openssl, etc etc etc) have been removed/disabled. The ports I am using to replace the base utilities is still using pkg_* tools and is up to date for the 1000 odd packages I have across my environment. The environment does not contain any new hardware that is not already supported. Then after that consider this: On some of my servers I have been attempting to move services to using 'powerdns' which was marked as broken on 9.3 since August 2016... It failed to link with 'to_string' not a part of 'std' ... however with a little research and some help (as I know very little about c++) it turns out that the problem that caused it is the same problem that has been present since 2014 on 8.x and was reported on the mailing lists along with a fix... oh and since then it's been reported on 10.x as well... and still no fix... ... The fix it turns out was very simple it's a bad #ifdef/missing #define in the C++ headers/config ... Guess what... it's fixed on my systems, but get "9.3 is obsolete, please upgrade" if I ask for a fix or even suggest about patching the fix in.... Its not the only thing, but it shows the sentiment, if you're not running HEAD, then *most* are not interested in helping you... This is the reason I forked... This is the reason why linux has so many variants, this is why FreeBSD is either now, or heading to be "just another distro" ... we're better off with DeadRat, we can pay support put it on our servers and know that it'll be supported *and patched* for the 5+ years we'll have the hardware... and this is what I was fighting within the company but they're right FreeBSD is not a viable option for the company as the OS moves too fast for either our DCs or the on prem embedded hardware.... we're a security company, we can't afford to be running an unsupported OS, and we can't afford to have 90% of the company staff admins so that we can keep upgrading our DCs and all the appliances. I respect you Mark, have seen you about here for years now, you're not stupid, but you have to see where the forcing of upgrades and drive to keep up with the joneses is hurting the userbase and therefore FreeBSD as a whole.... and just as a parting shot, about to attempt to deploy my fork onto some Sun hardware and if it works (which I expect it to) I'm going to try the same fix on there to see if that also fixes the build/link problem. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 12:33:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD53CDA022 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1119F6 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AD25ECDA021; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCDFCDA020 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm6-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8761419F5 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486816270; bh=oLyab2R80XJnpHFEskonHX9U0bqZnFU9tHZeUjvmpU4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=EMlX5/lGZZoBvh6xeZOzjjhFi0dvlnkDoKmN6VdJkcxsAqZMRk8V4DJKA07sG7zkOsSlsiWz7iwSc3+Q9qERvMgC0ajzTUjBnVBYatW/5BN4yqKCSEcIONddMdRKineKvQU4kRDQJPcIvTtjAj1sfmeZMMuXFndyUDw6Is4V/yw= Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 12:31:10 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.145] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 12:31:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 12:31:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 116269.2996.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: WW_FldQVM1m6oENyP7eFjOR1LsHqn5bcBZLZATDoNqLANF9 2MEXtq1d0PGX7GTYAgyGJbQzEwJH06yEalCVNxTHtheIDowlAmp465iSpNcL S9xYNV2vawhmi8ViQd5RvevGJ1lWg2fQRX3Ya9YQ8uRwxBusL55cw.JbntoV 56WFc2DhQhj8augL5SzoRRObe.OBdfTIxQKNEu3ELV1eyZapMFvTL4IEEa0s 5KACfsKHjCfSeZxK9Xq0VbTbCDv0DrmoZmKp0ogOUNBX7VmXpEIyqwgFF9kX XdgK6BOae_5rdIa1sLCoesDlpeqgsnDDX3MyrilmkT2cH3Ksua1MIj7oHmve E9Bg3GWIOneS1TIG1.9fQbnyKdAn1QGtmOms7m3xu67lyPfE327ZvPU9T5dq gvseauhjBveMdeO0X5sJ1fJXfQDLN0LNQHkkHhKevWCnVq4rlagsoNOUxrf7 ZddwWNxdzv8vn6qr.fp2IPNRlJXTVvPU8rSmIAMtyacZUp794f8nOS98NQty w0Le3.iXvteByyOKy4e0x0HrnUes8SmOQV6LigPEOn46pV80GEdRO3EA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 07:31:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:33:01 -0000 On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! Moin! > >> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote >> >Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary >> >to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break >> >and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... >> >> But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. > >While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, >I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do >not have alternatives. Why not? What would happen to fBSD that's not already happening? Why aren't people asking what's going on and how to turn it around? Could it be because they're too busy being busy? There's a well-known problem that kills ground-attack pilots all the time (or it used to; maybe they have safety features built into the aircraft now). They become fixated on their target, and they bring the nose of their aircraft further and further down to keep the target in their sights. Which causes them to fly right into the ground! Fixation is a problem in other fields, too. > >> Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even >> tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and >> obsoleting? > >Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) >shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to >add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? It seems more like an excuse than a defence, to me. Is it pushing Linux back? If not, what *would* push Linux back? Why is Linux so successful even though fBSD is older and better, and was once completely dominant in the space? What are the Linux projects doing that we're not? > >And if we try to keep up and for this, if we add features to the >ports framework ? I'm doing this (application mgmt on unix systems) >for a long time now, a quarter of a century, and I see no viable >alternative in the problem space we work in. I trained as a clinical psychologist, not in computer science or ee. We learned that adults are notoriously resistant to change (not that we hadn't noticed that ourselves, most of us, but it was nice to have it confirmed "officially"). But change is possible, even for adults. The key to change is to realise, at the gut level, that change *is* possible, that things need *not* always be as they are now. That life really truly can be better. That's really hard for most adults to believe. The prospect of change is terrifying because it threatens us with loss of control. But we don't have to lose control. We can change a bit at a time, staying in control all the while. All we need is the will to do it. (The world is in the mess it's in because, it seems, most of those who have the will to change use it for malignant purposes --the last several US presidents being cases in point) > >I also see that this very fast speed uses up huge amounts of >person power and compute resources (all those folks rebuilding >many ports in their build hosts). But it's not easy to stop off >this planet 8-} I would never urge that we jump off the planet. It'd be too hard to breathe outside the atmospheric envelope. :-) But that doesn't mean we're currently doing the right things to regain share from Linux and save FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 13:35:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5D0CDB777 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF35D1ABE for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BBE6DCDB776; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EBDCDB775 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm9-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FBBC1ABD for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486819961; bh=IBjvzzjHJG0me9Om+Rvr0dvMNPOsI6ktJhNDb3xcKhk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=1ywWwmj/cZ56DFpRq2p9dxli0qdPP9zIuK3/rjyEfaj9DcUodFQzYe4/Ccmssq6G8H2Fs1VzYknNiB2Poa8/XXYb94OTo7cjhyLEJZ1U7RIal3WsyDWue0QF+B/3qYvsBFMvSfLi/1XixXmoD50Otw7ikkcRLg48Lg2Xfi376lw= Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 13:32:41 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.148] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 13:32:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 13:32:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 238730.25547.bm@smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: cZVgR7sVM1niZsqUjGuMqUP9S1k2OEH2fumvoxRzIMgrjqd YDF.dWE57BgxYQ5m7BZkGHR3aBUlKVemnUIJO67VCsYN.kyK6GTJ2XrzIOXX c1O6Q_qIixUBgEa2bx98H4Q0_f7p_HW1FTCvUns4xPUxZJNdUf2qB04V94R_ 3g7bJ6SWXYuu3FOjGn.vC4gImZrUv7GaKxIm_tUlBhJK6kJoinH28RNRhDGV gqGDpZzsAXAOMgZH6xafD313Iz3ygd6dlPbC420PZlLeZwDPRzRGXF9X8UOE 1qfvil.Qbq_2T2955GizEWpTu.c0JNAkFuKtoEz5D8nu9TjTj.c8svOnh.lg 6tI9EOMA6IVgX1SA_e_s4HsggjskwXkKVky_eqjkHtpIh4DQ1lavkHkRD8I4 rhuGkjb5Ow73auJkm6FxBqi8DyixpidbnfSHSuYdUzt7lVLl_pcildWijev1 3D2axqAeZ2hnGyD0aUF1nfEYoHoyl_r_uDolyy5gjDar1wbXCWKw7DDy6mdo 2KInFmHlJ3c3JCZC.m6dqFCGTfCjC67R.T1.kX1988SzNMrqwv9otlxI82j2 HTFeKK_Mf0rsFk4hXcIJILg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:32:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:35:34 -0000 On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:18:49 -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: >On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 08:17:31AM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> A good rule of thumb from industry in the case of major software >> would be "forever", meaning until it's very unlikely that anyone >> is still using it because of hardware obsolescence, etc. > >(Sigh.) And how many people do you think it takes to do such support? A variable number. Level-of-support is a continuum, not a point. Just don't purge the "obsolete" bits, if that's really all the support that can be afforded. It'd be more support than is provided today! > >> Why is Linux able to so easily replace FreeBSD? The desktop is >> gone. Servers are going. The new AMD chips are being tested >> against Intel on Linux boxes, not FreeBSD boxes. FreeBSD is >> being made obsolete. > >In other words, if we move fast enough to try to keep up with Linux >changes, FreeBSD is obsolete. If we move more slowly than Linux, then >FreeBSD is obsolete. > >I'm being serious. We get criticized either way. And is the "keeping up with" working, Mark? Are we regaining share from Linux? No. We're continuing to lose. That strongly suggests that "keeping up" in the way we're doing it is the wrong thing to do and should be stopped while we analyse the problem in a better way, focussing on understanding what Linux is doing that steadily gains them seats at our expense. It's the same competitive analysis anyone in the computer industry --or any industry-- must do if they want to survive. But as the roster of dead computer companies that were once dominant in their space should tell us, too many people just can't bring themselves to do what's needed. > >Also, for package sets, consider that size * each OS release * each >architecture (ok, some architectures) = a lot of disk space. We >simply have finite disk space. A problem that can be solved with money isn't a problem, it's an expense. > >IMHO, the days that we can expect ports maintainers and committers to >keep e.g. a FreeBSD 4.11 viable for years are over. By the EOL of 4.11, >we were asking volunteers to support *4* major OS releases. That was >crazy. Who's suggesting we go back to doing that? > >As for the OS releases, we're trying to keep up with new disk technologies, >new ways of booting, new wireless techniques, graphics APIs that change >rapidly, and on and on. The pace of these changes is outside our control. >We can keep up or become irrelevant. We're all but irrelevant right now and our situation continues to deteriorate, so clearly what we're doing is not working. That's the key take-home here: what we're doing is Not Working. The late theoretical physicist and systems expert W. Edwards Deming captured many situations, including FreeBSD's, in a nutshell: "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory." From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 14:02:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50F2CDBF7B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF43CC31 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BB9ABCDBF7A; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3EDCDBF79 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C2EDC2F for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ccYGA-000N0P-C5; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:02:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:02:42 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170211140242.GR13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:02:43 -0000 Hi! > And is the "keeping up with" working, Mark? Are we regaining > share from Linux? No. We're continuing to lose. How do you measure that ? -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 14:11:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C968BCDA0B3 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DDFE71 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B23B1CDA0B2; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DEECDA0B1 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73A5CE6F for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ccYOI-000N1F-Dp; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:11:06 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:11:06 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170211141106.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:11:07 -0000 Hi! > >> But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. > >While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, > >I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do > >not have alternatives. > > Why not? What would happen to fBSD that's not already happening? Maybe if other folks do not share your analysis that the fbsd world is loosing market/mindshare etc, they come to different conclusions on what they want from the system. > Why aren't people asking what's going on and how to turn it > around? Could it be because they're too busy being busy? My impression is they are busy innovating, and that is good and I thank them for it. > >Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) > >shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to > >add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? > > It seems more like an excuse than a defence, to me. Is it > pushing Linux back? If not, what *would* push Linux back? As I asked on the other mail: How do you measure this ? [Pathologising others] is not very friendly. > But change is possible, even for adults. So, we're changing a lot and now we hear you complain about those changes. Can you try to describe some changes that would help both groups (those that need innovation and those that need stability) ? > But that doesn't mean we're currently doing the right things to > regain share from Linux and save FreeBSD. Is this really a us-vrs-them thing ? I don't see it that way. There is innovation all across the board and to be able to co-innovation, certain things need to be done. In the base system and in the ports tree. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 15:17:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF77CDB656 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1ADD86 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 87578CDB654; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA6CDB653 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm20-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CE47D85 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1486826140; bh=yFMCfLmASN+2c2Zd+08LJuThDspLRHHNZ5xWw9d5uZE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=1nFzUkNafeeBAJCkRjE/+EdZFtl3JuLQ/rX+Dcs52dLCtz1+XzRpBUK/N11qvDvqdg19VNWPMLi2L9MRIHIRL83S9/yE82AZtYAdJaMzuYhP11ULkzrv17l3r9uk2ODgyKbnuDPcn8YraMbTdws5makqCLXrSUbFv1L1oT/KTGk= Received: from [216.39.60.175] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 15:15:40 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.147] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 15:15:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2017 15:15:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 498947.25482.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jypkK9gVM1ljZnN0vOYagHInJWUNMvwTXgGtSAbP05ByVe7 XRTBeDDpJCJtdfrKvaSQ.jDdmcinIft2t1Z959Z9y4xvD24j1XYnUe.jGWZv 8bM8A7wFQQLgrNOTxEbpNi203vctMbYpd8U6D7ikmG0qSkdTpespYGrWw8lJ kK2p0TVoR6NA_vlAT1oi5_yeDm_tWlpYtnDT1jkBxmMR205U5bnQdLdrnNVa gqdJ_hd9cGpK6ZVdaKodKMX8rzmdU20o0dA8.8mmX86dY9jrCKGXLUUS5h5z nkjdUx4XIuhlGQFC7g6GRJuJzzMqr9OHndg9nP8g1juaVhD6PQJ1YVSNL9r_ L7h84yTRPhfBGkwMRzvKVZzgcu4FQX3WW.i6W77FTblnSGLwhyMQhHl9_xmE Gr3sefQKq.T7p9u_px9E1Vi4bY1MrJsXOwbFZbWbp4feiA1H4mwzC3q0aSjE sbn49zcMpYM_q20jYY05n6n2YjMraF3e4XvoBUz9x3lO9z2GIIcJhAdYRtmx K2G3BwdOTimi5dlV.J4bUbDmzrt.71TdCPNzccu0aBdbxleaH3D0ZBQw- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Cc: Kurt Jaeger Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <1h9u9c5nl5m4f4qjbco8ftf9g166hhem08@4ax.com> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211140242.GR13006@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <20170211140242.GR13006@home.opsec.eu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:17:45 -0000 On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:02:42 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! > >> And is the "keeping up with" working, Mark? Are we regaining >> share from Linux? No. We're continuing to lose. > >How do you measure that ? Mostly I compare penetration of servers at web-hosting sites, availability of applications, particularly technical ones, and favorable mentions in the business and technical press. In all cases, FreeBSD is an afterthought, if it's mentioned at all. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 15:49:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05056CDBE6F for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAD111B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DC0B4CDBE6E; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB65CDBE6D for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A106E11A for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3F396E0081; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:49:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v1BFnOSI088184; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:49:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v1BFnNUs086898; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:49:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:49:23 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports , Kurt Jaeger Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170211154922.GB25286@e-new.0x20.net> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211140242.GR13006@home.opsec.eu> <1h9u9c5nl5m4f4qjbco8ftf9g166hhem08@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jLmGyUepE/aZfh+l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1h9u9c5nl5m4f4qjbco8ftf9g166hhem08@4ax.com> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p35 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:49:29 -0000 --jLmGyUepE/aZfh+l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 10:15:41AM -0500, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:02:42 +0100, Kurt Jaeger > wrote: >=20 > >Hi! > > > >> And is the "keeping up with" working, Mark? Are we regaining > >> share from Linux? No. We're continuing to lose. =20 > > > >How do you measure that ? >=20 > Mostly I compare penetration of servers at web-hosting sites, > availability of applications, particularly technical ones, and > favorable mentions in the business and technical press.=20 >=20 > In all cases, FreeBSD is an afterthought, if it's mentioned at > all. Which is mostly because even my grandmother heard of Linux while FreeBSD is mature and venerable but also mostly unknown even to IT people. It's not a technical issue in the first place. We just suck at promoting FreeBSD. --jLmGyUepE/aZfh+l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJYnzKCXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1twycH+QFjBtiF4JsDou6VM+U+Mjaw ElVk9TdnzBibjPL096ie4yAzkrUyLHfa5ZMkekJK78HNyLqkophrnRFfg2l+ZPC9 KImZS2kFpv5V395T6BD5CQDWgRebu7/vF/25ZqYZ4oTqcWfK7WFZ/BWrdznXHjlC zZRGyfv449T7FwvsK6nORXFpFV79sTPdrwlA84xWap12zKggDmq+r7zK5SyR8b+d IoqsgprdWAqa0EDPFPawinIQXj3UIMwZ/dQoIzdZaVluyfUsJeZvahI/UmsJq43c hH+JIEGN2u8ed5v2jdhRpg2YxpEWVq7glfeQHP6DlvdRzV5OPmU8dD9YBxWejxw= =NE5e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jLmGyUepE/aZfh+l-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 18:04:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236A0CD832E for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCE71EA1 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0D308CD832D; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD77CD832B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3D381EA0 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE49F2136; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:04:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:04:03 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Michelle Sullivan Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170211180403.GA14424@lonesome.com> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211002035.GA11637@lonesome.com> <87172bcd-3305-0e80-ddea-81f388291e2b@sorbs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87172bcd-3305-0e80-ddea-81f388291e2b@sorbs.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:04:07 -0000 On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:51:41AM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Tell me.... What is the reason for me upgrading those few production > servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... bearing in mind the following: There isn't any ... oh, except for no new security updates. The flip side is the more important question. Why should we ask developers to support a version of the OS that doesn't have: >From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html: * bhyve, drm2, rasbpi, nvme, several overhauled drivers and carp. >From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/relnotes.html: * mpr, mrsas, pms, autofs, other overhauled drivers. I recommend folks reading this thread should examine those links. As for things removed from base, my understanding is: * we have limited people to fix/regression test all the security problems in base/ software. A few notorious candidates have been factored out into ports. * there is an overall drive to move to an entirely GPL-free base system. Perhaps this is not important to you but there are others to whome this is important. I have some other thoughts on this but I am being called away to deal with some other crisis ATM. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 19:11:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4C4CDB77B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alfix86@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x241.google.com (mail-wr0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 551D2F4 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alfix86@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x241.google.com with SMTP id k90so18516525wrc.3 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:11:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C+/j5VxEQCaUtPRx2qkObDZDfax9H7agG+nXZx3zhkY=; b=M2U1pXsEpBs30/RNQHlmHfpS9xJszTxoB3QDqsWNEKykRpoNaptDhqH9BLuTrcm0ju AwL2vvqqeQ3WqI+cU0PXFAlyA/tTVELnnfKY+8aKbrK6mMp3TeewagIRkOIrUJwE/K6z C9xgEc6v/YRx7Eo/Lp5bjqlO8NWvduLB2zy1yCa6bxvkztrgvtzwrelaTaOAkO+UkE1J f+MS7GUwPM/NGSRRI42LHOuypRAni0+KrtqK/5qCgws+TJnzMXkCGUKIzVupSF+smioK 0XCEtFhs6jbLYqAtK44KYYbLch/XR7/tIMg8qIxcabi7yanQzklZBKP4Z/1m2SIjnIHw XX9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C+/j5VxEQCaUtPRx2qkObDZDfax9H7agG+nXZx3zhkY=; b=q0BJVqMB886l9Az/rUlGWztRFGUgE6IUQIK5nCfMKKPfC2uWCgby126IrVGZGGUUXo TwiAjbwwvBtYW5zGslQGSKdeydkGma1JrfF8cGzTFhlWONHuwNOjlbGIztTdcSkLqgC6 UA2in/SPmN4DxqiN3PBPkSqbFKmGynC9ujOVJmoyOdFVyj6Lz3AymH/NoA3QLWdTknNH YSvELPChUn/PLO81YBNGY6oOl5BI0yFyplb63Ou2re94qdyYaJaCb2gRTlqEFDW4uQPZ 0rLwTccz0lDQdVQHZEgAErvmlGLxW5Nnlr/IPRBA7zl+J0lVoeEWgp3pKHkAkKg4/Frw ZH1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39ntGx8ymH36WtzjOIMOkHGQ95qT68H/TW59V0msqL4dXuhelXqdnou/R+FSb1nHdA== X-Received: by 10.223.176.93 with SMTP id g29mr12753492wra.7.1486840272815; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from alfixfbsd ([151.47.58.197]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i73sm6136673wmd.11.2017.02.11.11.11.11 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:11:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:11:11 +0100 From: alfix86 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Averia font port Message-Id: <20170211201111.0ad4f9fbc6c82a076def150f@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:11:15 -0000 Hi all! This is my first email. I wish to create a port for Averia GWF font family [1], it comes with 3 .zip - AveriaGWF.zip (has 7 .ttf) - AveriaSansGWF.zip (has 6 .ttf) - AveriaSerifGWF.zip (has 6.ttf) Should I create 3 ports or just 1 merging the 3 .zips? Regard Alfonso [1] http://iotic.com/averia/ -- Alfonso S. Siciliano http://alfix.gitlab.io From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 19:26:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFED2CDBE86 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25D65E5C for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([77.176.11.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LmOLO-1c31df3Q0o-00Ztlh for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:25:57 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077F223D20E for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:25:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Averia font port To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20170211201111.0ad4f9fbc6c82a076def150f@gmail.com> From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: <4aa04921-f09a-a295-effe-f843bb493048@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:25:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170211201111.0ad4f9fbc6c82a076def150f@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DIZsjKaE3LQb7splwBocsrgBk55QdGcyOYCD+R9W/FbJWaZJede 2ZsAnwyba7r2H7qIVR772DXvVDSnma9RIVYZrSCHUHKR2hbp6pDB3XpNUzgjLLtdi8O9Xu1 k60QNKgepRUkqaVslR//ugrems1dRPx5vFMwZSsaYaCvhk7myPWUUVZOIdB0XL+yyOFhtoV FQolqnqMeP6rhPjcymLCg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:AW8KDcGutBs=:hu6i4ChCCxIOGcA7fBPmo8 5/yhQboZ02xq11utWn5n7K19uvHiqFGK6dkvNKT26V4f2ucVG6xrGpIgAv6y9UsOK+6sX260y sULZoOS82D/vokxGRM5p4FYOKcwmhvJNIUn0+JtDdBbtUV8vw5WL/5z/ahZ7V0eOStNpJ2j7U Zm7z1wjdE23F4gUU3L6cYuzWa6qxwWdyxu90gE4a4tYC80LB3iyg447Tz5JaaTBSj8NUGj38Y L/+07zHTiFJOlQ8A8criT0ABDNbGAWLcuZC9dvWNkZ+kvqBN/ob5deBLg2zAwV82iNBa+5oZX QL1Iz6rPrH/n1qSAFXMDRL5M0ruqwMb2x2qwarMvZ/1OKG5Yd+dWiQSoN5SprC/rNezgMeL8r DGSGBI/EKa86JYcPyI3IigHUwax6EKp+L7ZuvxhYNfl7MNmBHtEBH5Ffae6KIG4kku79qjRC2 wwkjc9AwvKgny/V7zcsi4cPPcoG7VNhwaZl3EXIK0UZY1AW9xOKQAjYVzWrdgw12YF7PDBgdx Xal3vk6L9g8frFkjiGZwPA5QmNl+Ms4WS0Mw/w7HBiv1jq4QUhOVaDALC8mgZvvPdcsh2AS8Q 95Xm2odn/sqGz1tKjh+gfQmxxvaEHry5wZ51+PW9Y25n53VMx7kAkVHZtsZP3+hKtp3qeMZTS EiWMxTPbRJJETvyl4yoz4InLZchhyPoRvMSS62o5DqihgkZG64fJCigeiPn08pvkm6bFMqAB6 sEQQ2hq2Df8XgnOSTkIqqdqiSfKOUnxX0ttSKF7yKHWYY+CfLTxBJJeKVAVAAa0+n/FglUNr9 nL4pbKH X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:26:06 -0000 Am 11.02.2017 um 20:11 schrieb alfix86: > Hi all! > This is my first email. > > I wish to create a port for Averia GWF font family [1], > it comes with 3 .zip > > - AveriaGWF.zip (has 7 .ttf) > - AveriaSansGWF.zip (has 6 .ttf) > - AveriaSerifGWF.zip (has 6.ttf) > > Should I create 3 ports or just 1 merging the 3 .zips? My personal opinion is, don't make it extra hard, and bundle everything into one font. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 20:45:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A419CCDB992 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913411749 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8DACACDB991; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4D8CDB990 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Received: from wodehouse.vesterman.com (s54.n236.n6.n64.static.myhostcenter.com [64.6.236.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plesk", Issuer "plesk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 420E01748 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Received: (qmail 14791 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2017 15:39:03 -0500 Received: from ool-43524da6.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?192.168.1.17?) (67.82.77.166) by s55.n236.n6.n64.static.myhostcenter.com with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 11 Feb 2017 15:39:03 -0500 To: spawk@acm.poly.edu Subject: FreeBSD Port: geomWatch-1.3.0_2 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org From: Robert William Vesterman Message-ID: <202ac006-bed5-ed89-caac-5064c5a445ac@vesterman.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:40:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:45:48 -0000 Hello, I just found the geomWatch port which you maintain. I have a question about it, but haven't been able to find the answer yet, so I hope you don't mind me asking you: I intentionally do not have a full blown MTA on my box, so I don't have anything listening at localhost:25. Instead, I use the ssmtp port, as suggested in the FreeBSD handbook section "Setting Up to Send Only" . ssmtp is then configured to talk to an external SMTP server whenever a local account tries to send an email. I tried setting up geomWatch, but it seems like it requires speaking directly to an SMTP server. Is this correct? Or is there a way to set it up so that it perhaps just uses something like the built-in "mail" command to send, which would (on my box) then use ssmtp behind the scenes? Or must I either set up an SMTP server on my box or else configure geomWatch to use an external SMTP server? Thanks, Bob Vesterman From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 21:54:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64451CDB2F4 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [IPv6:2407:e400:1::b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11293882 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (210-1-210-40-cpe.spintel.net.au [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D52974C1C48 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:54:15 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1BLsFvb087390 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:54:15 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:54:14 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: devel/check Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:54:23 -0000 I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to devel/check. (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this) But devel/check won't install because: pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would leave me without a window-manager! What should I do? -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:23:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E180DCDBB18 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [185.24.122.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E49416F8 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (093105243006.raciborz.vectranet.pl [93.105.243.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1BMNAZM005328 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:23:11 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host 093105243006.raciborz.vectranet.pl [93.105.243.6] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: <44504f75-befb-5c4d-c4f9-273fcff969a2@gjunka.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:23:04 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:23:20 -0000 On 11/02/2017 12:31, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100, Kurt Jaeger > wrote: > >> Hi! > Moin! > >>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote >>>> Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary >>>> to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break >>>> and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... >>> But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. >> While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, >> I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do >> not have alternatives. > Why not? What would happen to fBSD that's not already happening? > Why aren't people asking what's going on and how to turn it > around? Could it be because they're too busy being busy? > > There's a well-known problem that kills ground-attack pilots all > the time (or it used to; maybe they have safety features built > into the aircraft now). They become fixated on their target, and > they bring the nose of their aircraft further and further down to > keep the target in their sights. Which causes them to fly right > into the ground! > > Fixation is a problem in other fields, too. > >>> Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even >>> tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and >>> obsoleting? >> Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) >> shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to >> add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? > It seems more like an excuse than a defence, to me. Is it > pushing Linux back? If not, what *would* push Linux back? Why > is Linux so successful even though fBSD is older and better, and > was once completely dominant in the space? What are the Linux > projects doing that we're not? > I think the answer to this question is simple and is the same reason why Windows and MacOS have been successful over time - user experience. To be more exact - desktop user experience. People like me, developers, use computers not only for work but also to do their daily stuff - watch DVD, listen to music, catch up with people on Facebook, play games. Sometimes I do need to switch to Windows but if I could just use FreeBSD I would be done with that. I can do many of these things on FreeBSD now but it has always been an uphill path. Everything is much easier on Linux. Now we also have PCBSD/TrueOS but it shares the same pain as FreeBSD - lack of drivers. On Linux companies contribute drivers and dedicated applications and it's a win-win situation. More drivers mean people can more easily re-use their hardware that they bought for Windows, and more happy users means companies are contributing more drivers. Maybe the fate was set on Linux because FreeBSD was considered as a server operating system rather than a Windows replacement, which Linux was always trying to be? And good UI/desktop always provides a better user experience than a command line and terminal. And why would people want to switch between FreeBSD on the server and Linux/Windows on their desktop if they can just go Linux/Windows all the way through? I believe it's only by providing a good desktop experience that FreeBSD can survive. Grzegorz From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:37:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D6DCDBD6B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D4E91B61 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([77.176.11.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MI9n0-1cYqGq28fG-003qoU for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:14 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F1523D20E for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: 11.0-RC1 unsupported by ports? To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20170125042413.GK85666@cicely7.cicely.de> <20170125062045.GS13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170125075459.GL85666@cicely7.cicely.de> <20170125081318.GT13006@home.opsec.eu> <20170125084738.GM85666@cicely7.cicely.de> <9fa67c9b-0cee-3986-2226-e7e0f687cba5@FreeBSD.org> From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9fa67c9b-0cee-3986-2226-e7e0f687cba5@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KWrsoKWRL+ublv/iBjgyWskvAuE18fhsUQcaSrReIbDNZWvI7r/ 1Ep2U1Ky4DlJtkDxdDTyIXiJQCDTUvx+76PL2koQVFnIMh5aWXSvk74GXei1pf2zDQKk2er nj1MA15hdPv/R78UC/rPD6Z6hWzTHbjsroGR/+nj0yjSSS9l/+QyoN8kXeNqND6sFCUv2Mi BkHuV4fwoQos/VKQRJeXQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XiCpmJHEVsA=:DsluXBeLizsddWkt3OZ67C WgoWaPnJBU5t96d0CkenHGjkhIoPSICQxS+UaD5K5LgpMLRvKAPnPciVL2jV6vnnb1me3iiZG 47rLuWEPjpYVGCH/unwXZNz8gUHVVxWU/eSwtIex96tKZobWh6xcrxfW+MJNITigdQjNoOxp0 1AHhGOja766fCqjCD5njhKX9zUIqXa3OzeRjm1HHRx2NMMyR2nid5hWIxiYxTXH/x9dHFvQOk g6/MzG2xSJbBADZB1AMpBh6xNMwn//x6O85Vg1QbOZdHBPkDYmqMI7DFf/sd4oEImcWlwd7xf yXSwDAbRRYct7ppN+0FevFMNYy/bVK6cCN4crkrSw+HxJzOcKA8lPhY0yrLf6u1+/Bc90hmv8 PfzYVLIFjw5U4h8I8Sz+BQ7QE729y+vcU3WudwWOrli96g11dHoy80k/fXKaKVtJp88l27FkM oA6I+8lssqG/6bMZzHfdhRCD/iyhDcqHWRLYCRgJIrsJn6NAH8TKFOn3DU/q5U1yob1V1Vvid V4xBhLAYVERcf19ZoaAHHndWOzwse/yjK9z0q5H7hVD1CkczZEH6R7UoATuBtsuP/eNa7w84k hrKSmk9mStu/eTtJTGA1MulH6y5bd5pkqLPGUQLA+Uum7sSw0xvmberI7sBHw1NATd/UAdUur WFaEgRY7hLasawAEIo3tq2X2TnTPptB2heLQmTCmFN+9pwQD5dEi5qg1JB3zDxWcMJLCqGy2D jqS2DrJJFGKbBe+NtAT0nP+yok+A0wjmUl4AkOneaA2ZBBmjmYIOseqV27zIZdggDoArdV1yv BdWdJjp X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:37:18 -0000 Am 25.01.2017 um 11:39 schrieb Mathieu Arnold: > Buildworld on a raspberry isn't fun - if it works at all. >> Even if you crossbuild and just copy the binaries, the wear of >> MicroSD cards isn't something you want to test unless you really >> have to. > If you have other computers running FreeBSD, you can build /usr/obj on > the other box (using make buildworld TARGET_ARCH=3Dfoo (you may have to= > check the exact incantation)) copy the /usr/obj, and only run make > installworld. And the OP can tweak the INSTALL_CMD options to compare before overwriting, to reduce the amount of written data, too. From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:44:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D027CDB028 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [185.24.122.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7C7D96 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (093105243006.raciborz.vectranet.pl [93.105.243.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v1BMiTn9005683 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:29 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host 093105243006.raciborz.vectranet.pl [93.105.243.6] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <99cr9cp6o01ef949dig289bkspipl8mog7@4ax.com> <20170210211849.GB10806@lonesome.com> <20170211140242.GR13006@home.opsec.eu> <1h9u9c5nl5m4f4qjbco8ftf9g166hhem08@4ax.com> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: <9ad98998-41b2-bd24-e7ff-d661ffa5c8e4@gjunka.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:23 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1h9u9c5nl5m4f4qjbco8ftf9g166hhem08@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:32 -0000 On 11/02/2017 15:15, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:02:42 +0100, Kurt Jaeger > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >>> And is the "keeping up with" working, Mark? Are we regaining >>> share from Linux? No. We're continuing to lose. >> How do you measure that ? > Mostly I compare penetration of servers at web-hosting sites, > availability of applications, particularly technical ones, and > favorable mentions in the business and technical press. > > In all cases, FreeBSD is an afterthought, if it's mentioned at > all. https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-freebsd/all/all https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12199394 Grzegorz From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:45:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7775BCDB072 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx1.mailbox.org (mx1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF35184 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6150C44DB3 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:11 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received; s= mail20150812; t=1486852630; bh=0KZBju8/KhtW+XMNwNh7PSlJM0DbsNHkR 6HiI36VlcY=; b=taW6U3PXRprWWBjy//pZZYT5yvVnWudaJSGiQLrmigJzbjGUQ h10CyVjmpiEOkp89eEgdU0PF06CYgrBzbPrtD649IEvNT5y4k6Ug3cyEfUiCfm+2 6cDr7EjkKgCVwthFGq+Ex5CeXqybFC9sZGm/sx1UVWbqBSgT2/DdnL6yyge5Nitm Qc0uWkXqY5xw8OfXYOabYw6dWULbHt8HJTHo4sPhSw2Azqc3vf1pFdkQffgta34n M5T3QkrKGb7ReQpcIpt0gWoo/pcEH4gmgDc9cdzK8E7yVS/m1hlxxg1SAACmNG6P Q2zc5DzPPpgr2ypwDJ2RkNIUZqxP5ZV6q7vAw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by spamfilter03.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter03.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.117]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id XiW2BXH5eA6Z for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:37:08 +0100 Message-ID: <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check In-Reply-To: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:45:19 -0000 Andy Farkas skrev: > > I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to > devel/check. > (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this) > > But devel/check won't install because: > > pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files > into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk > > I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages > including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would > leave me without a window-manager! - pkg delete -f libcheck or - portmaster -o devel/check libcheck -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:48:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81860CDB13E for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAA94358; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([77.176.11.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDE6y-1cdo0c2yI0-00GXuM; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:48:42 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C1F23D20E; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:48:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: svn commit: r432323 - branches/2017Q1/print/texlive-texmf To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20170128132802.1D0B97470@freefall.freebsd.org> Cc: jbeich From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: <5c03414a-716d-5391-a6b1-7d0e3e989646@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:48:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170128132802.1D0B97470@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:l2yFdRS9nC+xq3NXkeNaFatIeGofX7xKVeoD+M8yY+uQ/E07lvK wGiJ+0VWF4t0v5dUSTnoH6gqO332JXAwa1oHg22Scfv0vr3NzNRiPEim7jFAQAkWgQXDk+s K7HXOdNiHdmYHEo7+sKDu7WlHKAvFOJ4uxgrnzEYN4Vy1lzd1Y4VCVCP73+iQ0nN7n2ELpK 52jpqCYIoRkw/9xlySehg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:4aNWzkd7Gbg=:o4EVKP0kkypApfqhtsQkpW ++7DFatERxyxTp7kGQMZjOmMW3Cr4I3bMgF1REQlWyv26gROnttG3pvCnk+Re+QlSrgSS2M84 +7nSHaxkIsBP9Mr3OUMCpRH701pzEW97/oaEMcaVmC1ouBmNmBynoexfAHQ2+Q99F/3PkcUXN 11F57cvGeiYUtiCM4ZXcYDbUsCbuuMhGOdHUr3A4pb6UfALEhw9uiNazufrx7FHg5yZ3P0OKG qx0E5TU/6rWnp8Jkx3gdHT0IAcXojHTZnwUic9tvSXRAUdYGAYJiYujhUfBe1FyyBRJU/yDZJ 5eEvwp2bOd0v5oePw6NS8LtyLAlDdYEptCJuhUVBkaCX8kkA9H7mr13IqCoi0iiDONAFa8kYe 4m/Z9VKwsF5ay1ypmfnDkP/Fz3FifhP5Ie8UbTfY4qHXfUzI6k9Qo4n+wGpNE48j/2/d9fdeN q3kWtW39llj/d0xtA9n7qNQdW92EuFhaSSW+/2qYlTkymmVhjGooq/vsFDVWsaO2SA+82P3fi rttK6OVctC6zKY5QoE/BiYnr+bKPCDxaE8mhIHzrq5YenfZsCNyTG2lnwiqp7JmFqmIDipu9/ bPowsMwC9oQFc7Mua9L19sWBFq+NoieQZnxRUBxqG3lyNbrZZSsq3W8WIG6jh/JuH2I53q/vQ 1Llkxq6W2si9sFNcJi/Ip38QpJ4nw3sZZfugniym30VtR7VfRjStra8xC90+IAJsfsf4isawT oYcLvbfNrapUj6ks6hbzmnw9AIYSRohmB5LLf3cCxDdBl5NiOJZld9AkzhBqabPSeUxuprP7C 4NaFOOJ X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:48:46 -0000 Am 28.01.2017 um 14:28 schrieb Jan Beich: > Jan Beich writes: > >> Author: jbeich >> Date: Tue Jan 24 11:48:07 2017 >> New Revision: 432323 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/432323 >> >> Log: >> MFH: r432322 >> >> print/texlive-texmf: unbreak on aarch64 on real hardware >> >> =================================================== >> ===> Building package for texlive-texmf-20150523_3 >> pkg-static: Warning: @exec is deprecated, please use @[pre|post][un]exec >> ====>> Killing timed out build after 3600 seconds > [...] >> +++ branches/2017Q1/print/texlive-texmf/Makefile Tue Jan 24 11:48:07 2017 (r432323) >> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ TEXHASHDIRS= ${TEXMFDIR} ${TEXMFDISTDIR} >> NO_BUILD= yes >> NO_WRKSUBDIR= yes >> NO_ARCH= yes >> +PKG_CREATE_VERBOSE= yes > Doesn't help. Any clue why? poudriere has MAX_EXECUTION_TIME=86400 by default, > so aarch64 buildbot appears to shoot itself in the foot. > > =================================================== > ===> Building package for texlive-texmf-20150523_3 > pkg-static: Warning: @exec is deprecated, please use @[pre|post][un]exec > file sizes/checksums [85605]: .......... done > packing files [85605]: ......====>> Killing timed out build after 3600 seconds > > http://thunderx1.nyi.freebsd.org/data/110arm64-quarterly/432603/logs/errors/texlive-texmf-20150523_3.log A belated answer, but anyways: I've seen similar things with texlive, llvm or other heavyweight ports, but the 3600 is a different timeout. Several operations in poudriere run with a *hardcoded* timeout of 3600 s. pkg info -q -l poudriere | xargs grep 3600 gives this when grepping, among other hits: /usr/local/share/poudriere/common.sh: max_execution_time=3600 /usr/local/share/poudriere/common.sh: max_execution_time=3600 /usr/local/share/poudriere/common.sh: max_execution_time=3600 /usr/local/share/poudriere/common.sh: max_execution_time=3600 In some situations it helps to run fewer builds in parallel (poudriere bulk ... -J 1 ...) HTH Matthias From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:58:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9391ECDB3E9 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [IPv6:2407:e400:1::b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3164798E for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3E7A4C1C50 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:57:58 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1BMvwcc087591 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:57:58 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:57:58 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:58:05 -0000 On 12/02/2017 08:37, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Andy Farkas skrev: >> I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to >> devel/check. >> (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this) >> >> But devel/check won't install because: >> >> pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files >> into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/checkmk >> >> I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages >> including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would >> leave me without a window-manager! > - pkg delete -f libcheck > or > - portmaster -o devel/check libcheck > Thanks Herb! The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8). How did you know about it? -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 22:59:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C23BCDB452 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35B2EA5F for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77FF411DE for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/77FF411DE; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: devel/check To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:59:44 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GwprVkWTu89UmMLJicl1XT6oS4XIho9Tl" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:59:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GwprVkWTu89UmMLJicl1XT6oS4XIho9Tl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GX18rEaevsDkf8rE1h7MhsuoihMGEHFFb"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> In-Reply-To: <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> --GX18rEaevsDkf8rE1h7MhsuoihMGEHFFb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote: > The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8). >=20 Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page. Cheers, Matthew --GX18rEaevsDkf8rE1h7MhsuoihMGEHFFb-- --GwprVkWTu89UmMLJicl1XT6oS4XIho9Tl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYn5dnXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT+Q0P/RmJMupZ03uzLzbfqTl4YSH9 AHS/u9s5/cWnXSoDkc9ywvab7Rtk+UGJSjoLGGdGolyHk9DNVyVfcW87xGIXC0+B 7ddFSO3RZ8m5aE8yt7BqWoG5VHEXwEbUpUWXtBllYdIcGwh6sEdyYAFzIFZNCRpg unM+woBxjIH30E7wYKyKjT2jOSyLfGI1xhEqPjuLNB75rW5j7DHgfb4oifjVm/b5 WeS/szPuyiyxTlKl1aylt1XVXtITJlU5ut66WWWDJ6GB9JyirESnLACLu6J8Mrrv EEpI++v5qkT33XIUk7BlUoOQGw8LTnGIWosakndRFjTpDkQSJc3/67sPrbrJXv2Z hLkQnkcTVcd9/l+TnyiQ+1W30HrZ9KG1l4YDfpeBnY2j+78cjpKW7jGJGywvPdtx ZcZpDcMWVYFVXaGVOBmvLWqItWtUwnUK084Dt7omhuzKPjPXMAPYNuTrHGwq90RR m6B117pbFUTTMcgz2Cwrz0qzqx/Gp7BOqe3tc3C30oy2nGcIvrMQ7PculVaThd+6 /e77Jnm16ECvXw3XB0+dKLLn9cZBRR1Yb6kTGjlaqlPTF0ySB5nWWDvo8snbxvgg SBbfaRhS02bxkv6ekizvAYtMnbib7/HOoEc1hpcPFBf5OcBhKRGy2m1qD2PVCdwQ SF/h+VB+TyvskimpI6dk =JKwb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GwprVkWTu89UmMLJicl1XT6oS4XIho9Tl-- From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 23:08:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84022CDB68B for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [IPv6:2407:e400:1::b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D58DF32 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E9334C1DD4 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:08:30 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1BN8TIr087625 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:08:29 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:08:29 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:08:40 -0000 On 12/02/2017 08:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote: >> The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8). >> > Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page. > To be fair, the pkg(8) man page does not mention that pkg(8) calls sub-programmes like pkg-delete(8). The only reference is in the SEE ALSO section. -andyf From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 23:24:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84E0CDBB92 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A7618DD for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8203DCDBB91; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A48CDBB8F for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x244.google.com (mail-wr0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A1F818DC for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x244.google.com with SMTP id 89so19034079wrr.1 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:24:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Yn68/oSWWXFn6uLGvDL5LsWUfI/ZOA3EUqK14QmqhY=; b=sFD+OGudbEiOE8RCy4wQ1ol6yMPsPwfPN5em/WRO+pNmR2XmyHXRZfYOUqCPuOQTP8 N7NAy3W997sB6dUtg6/cZeqnegvxSUTMtmj2GQrP00odakbpWvHggTEFlWnYHBi/26eR szA1rcWpNBw2VPMD5hK6wekfRt259/94sHa/AMrcabqjN76AHAiMizPmopHAxhhJYy4o 7PW9UgzjNI2T9BDfLWMyeI2QGrg+DsLpG5OlC7sk+rmuIged9XApTx6tWaQQU90aZgsW TeXneEQEGdBsDVEbq2XCD6CZxXM6Qs12HMw0IJUFzZdF8uPjDeYI5TP1FD8DDc03RMqd E15Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Yn68/oSWWXFn6uLGvDL5LsWUfI/ZOA3EUqK14QmqhY=; b=EjRZDynAKd2zN5lMFjiDralpKXsCqvs4jlkW2/SPZeTKBxgMdqV9ttdGSyOm7sCBAA B9Zf5/KWPSoVf1wUbw9xgVeDF5QT89Btb5JFT4IP9iUOdQUFQaPkeSbNUoccwz9wkLrA oKJMYZokz/p09QdPq50TVasALMo4qJ7oJhK35jUxvXqpfY7fxGz+Roh/pBfJum2VRSWN iY+xYbPXG/sFnGSMjbQea4k4xHuFxHOV44MVTVi/lJoylYo9LytFRG+RUpINa4aNF4Fy kNSO8RakET4muuYpGBjf8XlTq582ba0S9UQ/4KRgL8yNU8gmYroDaxLWIPRBlyISbEt/ Otsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nU/1KdoAYVhdT/WMnX1PpbqxmNuTak+EoDS82/w2i0DEiWRIF+GR3B6axP/r4hNA== X-Received: by 10.223.146.196 with SMTP id 62mr12321319wrn.199.1486855465508; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 202sm6695089wmp.20.2017.02.11.15.24.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:24:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:21 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check Message-ID: <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:24:27 -0000 On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:08:29 +1000 Andy Farkas wrote: > On 12/02/2017 08:59, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote: > >> The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8). > >> > > Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page. > > > > To be fair, the pkg(8) man page does not mention that pkg(8) calls > sub-programmes like pkg-delete(8). It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete". From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Feb 11 23:30:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C750CDBC67 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from alpine.spintel.net.au (alpine.spintel.net.au [203.23.236.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5526A19CC for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Received: from drunkfish.andyit.com.au (unknown [210.1.210.40]) by alpine.spintel.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50A234C17A6 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:30:28 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from snuggles.andyit.com.au (snuggles.andyit.com.au [172.22.2.2]) by drunkfish.andyit.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v1BNURT6087680 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:30:27 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from andyf@andyit.com.au) Message-ID: <589F9E93.3070100@andyit.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:30:27 +1000 From: Andy Farkas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/check References: <589F8806.7000605@andyit.com.au> <86y3xcgxrf.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <589F96F6.7040703@andyit.com.au> <589F996D.8020907@andyit.com.au> <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20170211232421.1be293d1@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:30:32 -0000 On 12/02/2017 09:24, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: > It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete". > My proposal is that the man page for pkg(8) should state this. -andyf