From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 00:11:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5A9C95756 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dereks@lifeofadishwasher.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x241.google.com (mail-qk0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A8191EB2 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dereks@lifeofadishwasher.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x241.google.com with SMTP id e1so11508391qkh.1 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:11:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifeofadishwasher.com; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=R7sIVcYca/P7rFIbHguCA3uRJLVGSyCYAzXxaqCwd+g=; b=ALVRLnqNGNA+VfRemH+46JuQEYMQzdNnpgvYVi3tdpAzpdwEzCwprT4obvBQBV3ykQ YvDICpa+6udp4lAXFD26XEuoM+nPm2vqxHvnFDyz5OVmAjYioj9b4PR2ToeGZZ9mkEKQ psuFPgRqoipf48ctWj2cgnOWn+5ge1vurGezc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=R7sIVcYca/P7rFIbHguCA3uRJLVGSyCYAzXxaqCwd+g=; b=kF6gemIKg78DNkeySM8hI6DRufK1QzoQFo5N5LQDNyjaMsP8hzJvrarmB4CtzifVcm nxynZiRLtQDLJby0mpWJkMBWPROmjIbyxBy6OruYi5k9X3bwcXl/lpki2geNy5NLHF8Y T9gWd+HP/NOqXidQz4Q8s43V+X3yCI9bDuXLUDuoiLw8vVb/WlYcop1dpoU3YCeF4Blr 6E/xiBqpnqwU6Xm2Pm+zU7ndZri+lZ8LjpeEYyinUGJDvQI9ZRfM8AZkrlSSzmZc69on WtJW+riqUaOM2bXWlpnLtXDSF1np00lsfEMdjRLqFB+4xn1IEN8BqbLr6nYTaqXTG3rh Vu+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKcu+B7r3e2VRUrta8GT+7mJ/EEoeKMHSkrN9y7InmMh+tfFTcBNDZRB9Ien6VuRw== X-Received: by 10.55.185.133 with SMTP id j127mr77932889qkf.39.1483834313737; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lifeofadishwasher.com (c-24-131-227-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [24.131.227.67]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z22sm15205qkb.22.2017.01.07.16.11.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by lifeofadishwasher.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 Jan 2017 19:11:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:11:51 -0500 From: Derek Schrock To: Adam Vande More Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [samb4] Where Is The User Database? Message-ID: <20170108001151.GE5334@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions References: <659a54ac-b48d-d308-4f29-7a603c06bd1b@tundraware.com> <8a20a242-22b4-3687-512c-66b16afa9b1c@tundraware.com> <20170106223905.GA5334@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> <20170106224307.GB5334@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> <18a3e9c3-9caf-bc04-ea88-92167e60e223@tundraware.com> <20170106233152.GC5334@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> <20170107095439.GA1312@hephaistos.local> <20170107142416.GD5334@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:11:54 -0000 On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 02:42:57PM EST, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Derek Schrock > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 04:54:39AM EST, Martin S. Weber wrote: > > > On 2017-01-06 18:31:52, Derek Schrock wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 05:54:39PM EST, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > > > > On 01/06/2017 04:43 PM, Derek Schrock wrote: > > > > > > /var/db/samba4/private/ is that the new location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, you nailed it, that's where it lives now. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks ... > > > > > > > > > > (It never occurred to me to read the smb manpages ... D'oh ... :) > > > > > > > > The location is altered in the ports Makefile hence the difference > > > > between the man page and installation. > > > > > > If the port Makefile alters the path in one file, it should alter the > > > path in all files. That's a bug in the port. > > > > This would be a bug with samba configure/build not the port. If you > > provide an alt location for lock dir, config file name, etc (search for > > SAMBA4_PORTNAME in net/samba4[34]/Makefile) then I would expect samba to > > update its own installed documentation. > > > > Why in the world would Samba honor FreeBSD Ports specific variables? > Should Samba then honor variables set by whatever buildframe work the > project is pulled into? Can you name a single other non-FreeBSD specific > port which does this? > > This is incumbent on the port itself, not the project. They shouldn't have to honor the FreeBSD Ports specific variables but it seems reasonable if alternative locations are passed to their own waf build system they could in turn update documentation on the fly. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 13:19:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C13DCA5D6A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FB86182A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v08DIuo0054640; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 00:18:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 00:18:56 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Derek Schrock cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [samb4] Where Is The User Database? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170109000845.J48410@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 13:19:15 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 657, Issue 10, Message: 6 On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:11:51 -0500 Derek Schrock > On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 02:42:57PM EST, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Derek Schrock > > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 04:54:39AM EST, Martin S. Weber wrote: > > > > On 2017-01-06 18:31:52, Derek Schrock wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 05:54:39PM EST, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > > > > > On 01/06/2017 04:43 PM, Derek Schrock wrote: > > > > > > > /var/db/samba4/private/ is that the new location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, you nailed it, that's where it lives now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks ... > > > > > > > > > > > > (It never occurred to me to read the smb manpages ... D'oh ... :) > > > > > > > > > > The location is altered in the ports Makefile hence the difference > > > > > between the man page and installation. > > > > > > > > If the port Makefile alters the path in one file, it should alter the > > > > path in all files. That's a bug in the port. > > > > > > This would be a bug with samba configure/build not the port. If you > > > provide an alt location for lock dir, config file name, etc (search for > > > SAMBA4_PORTNAME in net/samba4[34]/Makefile) then I would expect samba to > > > update its own installed documentation. > > > > > > > Why in the world would Samba honor FreeBSD Ports specific variables? > > Should Samba then honor variables set by whatever buildframe work the > > project is pulled into? Can you name a single other non-FreeBSD specific > > port which does this? > > > > This is incumbent on the port itself, not the project. Of course. Nor should it be a difficult patch for $someone to offer. > They shouldn't have to honor the FreeBSD Ports specific variables but it > seems reasonable if alternative locations are passed to their own waf > build system they could in turn update documentation on the fly. Find out experimentally by filing one bug against the port and another against the Samba project, then see which one is attended to first! :-) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 14:42:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C846CA58DD for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 14:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65D62138B for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 14:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FD2209A4 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 09:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 08 Jan 2017 09:42:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=T1DhYZpme7R+m9BmzRcID00riP8=; b=FBF7C8fdnRFDvShm9SmMn eLOyO5nYliKvSky+ieNUQLITWOlsIKUif8Fac4ghN0OIIuCGJ9kKGQ+2dTDHhRKm ZbQbd4aSnBTP7iaL+QYEuA1MGMtPNAlzxZ5Ej4pWJKtIqdLs5G6LlZJ8b476c5me yZ1w9N6E21xWe6emBPSXcI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=T1DhYZpme7R+m9BmzRcID00ri P8=; b=bMlCGiATXP5Mxs0A93mvmXjxR8pbuAP/ugFXoMJRqlZ2D/5IJkFaG4kUS QqnfDhpcgXuBZkcu9euD7tgMvBS4fa6hLtxODmqQlOdI1LhExc6WyDI9NOyVPFbQ G4t5/2C27zy0RzaNc+qBflp1MVu+3e41TVPeTtQRMRU+lcpf6M= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id E04AF6ABED; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 09:42:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:42:16 +0100 Subject: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 14:42:18 -0000 work ,but some missed rc.conf hostname="sony" keymap="german.iso.kbd" wlans_iwn0="wlan0" # from loader originaly wlans_iwn0= "WPA inet netmask" # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=0x08530501 #iwn0: device timeout #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=5 # & ... deleted that and used as above create_args_wlan0="country DE regdomain ETSI" local_unbound_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" moused_enable= "YES" dumpdev= "AUTO" wpa* ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant eapol_version=2 ap_scan=1 fast_reauth=1 network = { ssid=" myssid" key_mgmt=WPA_EAP # WPA_EAP not "WPA-EAP" or ? identity="my iden" password=" my passwd" priority=5 } poweron ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid # myssid not "myssid" #system accepted ,but no message ifconfig wlan0 # message from system # status -no carrier ,suspect form author must be associated #ssid myssid #channel 1 2412 mhz (can be changed with ifconfig arguments) # privacy -off ,suspect from author must be on # txpower 30 - setting in 0.5 db ,that is not correlated # with watkins-johnson ,naval research laboratory ,lincoln laboratory # must be 1 dbm # http://www.rfcafe.com/references/articles/wj-tech-notes/Rec_dyn_range1.pdf # watkins johnson/triquint CIA Receiver WR8617,F-22 radar # http://www.triquint.com/ # http://www.turma-aguia.com/davi/skolnik/Skolnik_chapter_3.pdf # see not sensivity ,sensivity related to bandwitch # example limit -174 dbm to 1 hz # GPS receiver sensivity -160 dbm related to tracking band 1-2 hz ############################################# -2. pkg install no txz ,created two files /etc /local/etc as stated in man pkg the same answer wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muy6DtnZ2Xg swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 15:56:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF4CA5D13 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 15:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F2451671 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 15:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 16:59:20 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 447B33CBF9; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:56:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v08FuU4I002040; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:56:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:56:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install Message-Id: <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 7CA146BE68D X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2489 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:56:42 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:42:16 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > work ,but some missed > > rc.conf > > hostname="sony" > keymap="german.iso.kbd" > wlans_iwn0="wlan0" Yes, those are correct. But there is the following entry missing: ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" Change for your actual SSID name. Also play with the options (WPA, DHCP, SYNCDHCP). Because I don't know your network, I cannot tell which features it requres. You either try this by yourself, or ask one of the admins, they _should_ be able to answer such basic technical questions. > # from loader originaly wlans_iwn0= "WPA inet netmask" Not from the loader, but from the installer, and I doubt the installer would have put that nonsense line there (those parameters correspont to an ifconfig_ setting!). > # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=0x08530501 > #iwn0: device timeout > #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=5 Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially defective firmware? > create_args_wlan0="country DE regdomain ETSI" That looks reasonable; however, I don't know if this is even needed. > local_unbound_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > moused_enable= "YES" > dumpdev= "AUTO" Correct, except the spaces. > wpa* > > ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant > eapol_version=2 > ap_scan=1 > fast_reauth=1 > > network = { > > ssid=" myssid" > key_mgmt=WPA_EAP > # WPA_EAP not "WPA-EAP" or ? The correct setting is "WPA-EAP" (hyphen, not underscore). You can find that out easily: "man wpa_supplicant.conf" - this local manual has the options listed in the correct manner. So key_mgmt=WPA-EAP is the setting you will need. A mis-spelled setting won't work for obvious reasons. > identity="my iden" > password=" my passwd" > priority=5 > > } Looks good so far, but make sure no superfluous spaces are present (except your password _really_ starts with a space, which is quite uncommon, but technically possible). > poweron Simply use the command # reboot to restart your system. It's much more comfortable. :-) > ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid > # myssid not "myssid" > #system accepted ,but no message The SSID name is in quotes in the configuration file, but not when you call the ifconfig command. When no further message is issued, the system has _successfully_ processed your command. The basic idea behind most system messages (or their absence) is: You asked for it, you got it. :-) > ifconfig wlan0 > > # message from system > # status -no carrier ,suspect form author must be associated The status message will change when the status changes. This will happen when the device connects. > #ssid myssid > #channel 1 2412 mhz (can be changed with ifconfig arguments) Yes. > # privacy -off ,suspect from author must be on This indicates if encryption is _required_. > # txpower 30 - setting in 0.5 db ,that is not correlated > # with watkins-johnson ,naval research laboratory ,lincoln laboratory > # must be 1 dbm Why don't you simply follow the basic diagnostic steps listed in the online documentation (pointed out several times): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html The command # ifconfig wlan0 up scan is a good point to start. Just make sure you're not trying to connect to a wireless network with options that this particular network doesn't even support. Again, let me remind you of the diagnostic commands: # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf # dhclient wlan0 This is basically a "step by step" way to manually perform what the system does automatically at startup. It's a great help to find out where the connection problem occurs. > -2. pkg install no txz , Without Internet connection, you won't be able to install software packages from the Internet. :-) Honestly: Get _one_ problem out of the way, then take the next task. Currently, getting your WLAN working should be your top priority. Concentrate on what you're doing, compare with the instructions. > created two files /etc /local/etc as stated Nonsense. /etc is a directory which the installer creates and populates; /local/etc doesn't even exist. > in man pkg > the same answer Probably not. "man pkg" is the local manual for the pkg command, with additional pages like "man pkg-add" or "pkg-delete" for the sub-commands that pkg understands. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 16:22:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92D8CA5399 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B85C2103D for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B2A2072C; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 11:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:22:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=OGFn2u6oqVvTDJIsiNbVt2NHo8 s=; b=H9doqy63vDkL0/vAu2t67Lpg1IBsVKua5HeQjepQYJhCHaf50r6qGIS251 mhDVfU+hbsUAcimlg9cIZId+oe0j7DzceX6YG0vk7Vyajo64NyqFd9cqzPb9BqZ/ QUm3Y9kWEo3WF/wtpnMm3cJSYwK4GvRxtZu7LnlyYIoE6xb2w= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=OG Fn2u6oqVvTDJIsiNbVt2NHo8s=; b=eekqCThCVSaf2sxdWhGZtiyfOSOtfh7oLw WwPoeDTUYsH313Qcf5zf8WmV4KFRXA5kB2wz3RkBf8q+kSiI2oO9wA6/YYeHUxre ONTF8k42yp5l+uwAjH971trXH4/MUgZIarAUQyxtT7YN8hq8ds82grfN+PLpMKsv nmygYnl+Q= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 2DCFD6ABED; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 11:22:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483892527.3093246.840971961.57D12E9A@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:22:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 16:22:09 -0000 1.Thank you for assistance 2. will test your suggest today ... 2.1.> ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" 2.2 .... Correct, except the spaces. would use all without space example hostname ="sony" key_mgmt="WPA-EAP" if not work key_mgmt=WPA-EAP 3. The command > > # ifconfig wlan0 up scan would test ... used before from ifconfig man ifconfig wlan0 list scan 4. > Again, let me remind you of the diagnostic commands: > > # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 > # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > # dhclient wlan0 Your respectfully -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 04:56 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:42:16 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > work ,but some missed > > > > rc.conf > > > > hostname="sony" > > keymap="german.iso.kbd" > > wlans_iwn0="wlan0" > Yes, those are correct. But there is the following entry missing: > > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > > Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: > > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" > > Change for your actual SSID name. Also play with the > options (WPA, DHCP, SYNCDHCP). Because I don't know your network, > I cannot tell which features it requres. You either try this by > yourself, or ask one of the admins, they _should_ be able to > answer such basic technical questions. > > > > > # from loader originaly wlans_iwn0= "WPA inet netmask" > > Not from the loader, but from the installer, and I doubt the > installer would have put that nonsense line there (those > parameters correspont to an ifconfig_ setting!). > > > > > # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=0x08530501 > > #iwn0: device timeout > > #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=5 > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > defective firmware? > > > > > create_args_wlan0="country DE regdomain ETSI" > > That looks reasonable; however, I don't know if this is > even needed. > > > > > local_unbound_enable="YES" > > sshd_enable="YES" > > moused_enable= "YES" > > dumpdev= "AUTO" > > Correct, except the spaces. > > > > > wpa* > > > > ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant > > eapol_version=2 > > ap_scan=1 > > fast_reauth=1 > > > > network = { > > > > ssid=" myssid" > > key_mgmt=WPA_EAP > > # WPA_EAP not "WPA-EAP" or ? > > The correct setting is "WPA-EAP" (hyphen, not underscore). You > can find that out easily: "man wpa_supplicant.conf" - this local > manual has the options listed in the correct manner. So > > key_mgmt=WPA-EAP > > is the setting you will need. A mis-spelled setting won't work > for obvious reasons. > > > > > identity="my iden" > > password=" my passwd" > > priority=5 > > > > } > > Looks good so far, but make sure no superfluous spaces are > present (except your password _really_ starts with a space, > which is quite uncommon, but technically possible). > > > > > poweron > > Simply use the command > > # reboot > > to restart your system. It's much more comfortable. :-) > > > > > ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid > > # myssid not "myssid" > > #system accepted ,but no message > > The SSID name is in quotes in the configuration file, but not > when you call the ifconfig command. > > When no further message is issued, the system has _successfully_ > processed your command. The basic idea behind most system messages > (or their absence) is: You asked for it, you got it. :-) > > > > > > > ifconfig wlan0 > > > > # message from system > > # status -no carrier ,suspect form author must be associated > > The status message will change when the status changes. This > will happen when the device connects. > > > > > #ssid myssid > > #channel 1 2412 mhz (can be changed with ifconfig arguments) > > Yes. > > > > > # privacy -off ,suspect from author must be on > > This indicates if encryption is _required_. > > > > > # txpower 30 - setting in 0.5 db ,that is not correlated > > # with watkins-johnson ,naval research laboratory ,lincoln laboratory > > # must be 1 dbm > > Why don't you simply follow the basic diagnostic steps listed > in the online documentation (pointed out several times): > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html > > The command > > # ifconfig wlan0 up scan > > is a good point to start. Just make sure you're not trying to > connect to a wireless network with options that this particular > network doesn't even support. > > Again, let me remind you of the diagnostic commands: > > # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 > # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > # dhclient wlan0 > > This is basically a "step by step" way to manually perform what > the system does automatically at startup. It's a great help to > find out where the connection problem occurs. > > > > > -2. pkg install no txz , > > Without Internet connection, you won't be able to install software > packages from the Internet. :-) > > Honestly: Get _one_ problem out of the way, then take the next > task. Currently, getting your WLAN working should be your top > priority. Concentrate on what you're doing, compare with the > instructions. > > > > > created two files /etc /local/etc as stated > > Nonsense. /etc is a directory which the installer creates and > populates; /local/etc doesn't even exist. > > > > > in man pkg > > the same answer > > Probably not. "man pkg" is the local manual for the pkg command, > with additional pages like "man pkg-add" or "pkg-delete" for the > sub-commands that pkg understands. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 16:43:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEA9CA5940 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 889BD1A0F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:43:17 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 983133CBF9; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:43:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v08Gh3TL002436; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:43:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:43:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install Message-Id: <20170108174303.70efaf58.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483892527.3093246.840971961.57D12E9A@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483892527.3093246.840971961.57D12E9A@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 9B62E68343B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1862 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 16:43:14 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:22:07 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.Thank you for assistance > > 2. will test your suggest today ... > > 2.1.> > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" > > 2.2 .... Correct, except the spaces. > > would use all without space > example > hostname ="sony" ^ There us a space again. _NO_ spaces. > key_mgmt="WPA-EAP" > > if not work > > key_mgmt=WPA-EAP I think the quotes can be omitted here, as you can see in the example at 30.3.4.1.3.2. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html > 3. The command > > > > # ifconfig wlan0 up scan > > would test ... used before from ifconfig man > ifconfig wlan0 list scan Yes, test that - and you should probably see some kind of "network identification" of the WLAN you want to connect to, and it should match the information given to you by the network maintainers. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 17:39:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA374CA5074 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (forward2j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A0731A74 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (smtp1j.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.59]) by forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BF1BF20DA9; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E6AED3C80668; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:48 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 7YNfG4fJMQ-cmvKbRUG; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:38:48 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install To: Polytropon , swjatoslaw gerus References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:39:02 -0000 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon пишет: >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=0x08530501 >> #iwn0: device timeout >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=5 > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > defective firmware? IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. Is it actually loaded? PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 18:03:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6067BCA58D8 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 18:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCE1A1775 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 18:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 19:04:46 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 255DF3CBF9; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 19:03:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v08I3ce7001968; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 19:03:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 19:03:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Boris Samorodov Cc: swjatoslaw gerus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install Message-Id: <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 1D01768345D X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1985 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:03:50 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon пишет: > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=0x08530501 > >> #iwn0: device timeout > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=5 > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > defective firmware? > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > Is it actually loaded? Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the available firmwares). > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 8 22:05:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AECA673E for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www-data@innosoft.ro) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16EE1D6F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www-data@innosoft.ro) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BDE5ECA673D; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8E3CA673C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www-data@innosoft.ro) Received: from mail.innosoft.ro (mail.innosoft.ro [86.122.147.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ED41D6E for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www-data@innosoft.ro) Received: by mail.innosoft.ro (Postfix, from userid 33) id E96F2607A8; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 00:04:35 +0200 (EET) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Account notification From: Paypal Message-Id: <20170108220435.E96F2607A8@mail.innosoft.ro> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 00:04:35 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 22:05:19 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 01:24:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1304FCA5D6B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 01:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8D7E17DC for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 01:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ezSsIxs9CTI9gPJKfO4A0Io+qV9eZv+kHwW+luOo60A=; b=RMu4ePHtwHhuM28muUtBHJbuqo ea9zHFGTPLyMBSE24+X+U1xKGLYq0i4tfF8Q3+pfPhbdNAKrkpCOdNVfLDYsOFmInfQI3gUUBN5wT LoVR1xpPH16ePZYv7hOZtp61A8XJk1AASv83mhG8cICLqz5nWRI27vLKKfyDW2cU2yxU=; Received: from [114.125.74.141] (port=39582 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cQOhS-002bqT-VN; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:24:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:24:31 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11 Jails and PKI Message-ID: <20170109092431.47967394@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 01:24:47 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 12:01:57 -0500 "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" wrote: > If I want to make a binary application available to all jails do I put > it in /usr/jails/basejail/bin or somewhere else? Or is this > impossible? > > If possible then do such applications need to be statically linked? > > Similarly, given that I wish to maintain a common repository of pki > keys and certificates that are shared between jails, do I place these > in or under /usr/jails/basejail/usr/share/openssl/? or somewhere else? > Or not at all and place them separately in each and every jail that > requires TLS? > > The main issue I am dealing with is that we run a private PKI CA and > need to add our root certificates to the ca-bundle after each update > to /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt. > you have two options. Copy the files required to run your program into each jail or hard link them. But - very big but - do the hard linking only if you know what you are doing. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 09:22:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5A6CA6DDB for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) Received: from relay-b01.edpnet.be (relay-b01.edpnet.be [212.71.1.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 597B51F17 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1483953734-0a7ff53071043f0001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan ([213.219.148.14]) by relay-b01.edpnet.be with ESMTP id twxpMYHNuVUeniWr (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:22:16 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien@perdition.city X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 213.219.148.14 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:22:14 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11 Jails and PKI Message-ID: <20170109092213.GG15696@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: FreeBSD-11 Jails and PKI References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QuX0r7ZseMwydPce" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1483953734 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.221:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1825 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5000 1.0000 0.0000 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.35653 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 09:22:27 -0000 --QuX0r7ZseMwydPce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 12:01:57PM -0500, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questi= ons wrote: > If I want to make a binary application available to all jails do I put > it in /usr/jails/basejail/bin or somewhere else? Or is this > impossible? >=20 > If possible then do such applications need to be statically linked? >=20 > Similarly, given that I wish to maintain a common repository of pki > keys and certificates that are shared between jails, do I place these > in or under /usr/jails/basejail/usr/share/openssl/? or somewhere else? > Or not at all and place them separately in each and every jail that > requires TLS? >=20 > The main issue I am dealing with is that we run a private PKI CA and > need to add our root certificates to the ca-bundle after each update > to /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt. you should manage this with a CMS (Saltstack for example) >=20 > --=20 > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail >=20 > James B. 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Tested mutiple days -suspect date/measurement are relevant ------------- a.not found equal "watch" by FreeBSD=20 b.found S =3D -76 ,N=3D -95 by myssid=20 Anna Ipod S-61=20 &=20 But change was small -73 -83=20 Not clear how calculated=20 ########################### --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 07:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >=20 > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x08= 530501 > > >> #iwn0: device timeout > > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > > defective firmware? > >=20 > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > > Is it actually loaded? >=20 > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > available firmwares). >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. >=20 > I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... =20 --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 09:33:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF728CA52E4 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A37E01714 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DE821ABE; 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Mon, 9 Jan 2017 04:33:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483954433.3271803.841580609.3CACCC21@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon , Boris Samorodov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483953900.3528029.841566129.683EDB76@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:33:53 +0100 Subject: University Hamburg Notation Re: Edison tactic - keymap="de",wlans_iwn0="wlan0",ifconfig_wlan0="WPA & WPA2 Enterprise " ...privacy on In-Reply-To: <1483953900.3528029.841566129.683EDB76@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 09:33:54 -0000 University Hamburg Notation Authehtication WPA2 Encryption AES EAP Type -EAP-TTLS Outer identity -anonymous@uni-hamburg.de=20=20=20 Authentication method PAP User ID myid@uni-hamburg.de passwd mypassd --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 10:25 AM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: Edison tactic - > 1. >=20 > keymap=3D"de" > wlans_iwn0=3D"wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA & WPA2 Enterprise "=20 > ...privacy on=20=20 >=20 >=20 > In University linux notation was tunneled TLS=20 > and PAP , if entry was allcorrect ,but without PAP > - not worked=20 > ---------------------- > 2.Only mobile application=20 >=20 > Need some equal indicator of wlan network as Hewlett Paccard=20=20 > Linux 16.04=20 >=20 > watch -n1 iwconfig=20 >=20 > Can see segnal level in sec ... -54 dbm -84 dbm in 5-10 metr=20 > by -84 dbm network crashed , ...browser ...parsing due worst network > connectivity .. >=20 > Tested mutiple days -suspect date/measurement are relevant > ------------- >=20 > a.not found equal "watch" by FreeBSD=20 >=20 >=20 > b.found S =3D -76 ,N=3D -95 by myssid=20 > Anna Ipod S-61=20 >=20 > &=20 >=20 > But change was small -73 -83=20 >=20 > Not clear how calculated=20 > ########################### >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc >=20 > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 07:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > >=20 > > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x= 08530501 > > > >> #iwn0: device timeout > > > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > > > defective firmware? > > >=20 > > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > > > Is it actually loaded? > >=20 > > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > > available firmwares). > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. > >=20 > > I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >=20=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > unladen european swallow >=20 --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 10:17:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69B5CA646D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BA131C33 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA521AD5; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:17:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=gWzjn0vA2QdxqSgUqeTTbtfKlC w=; b=Sy1ild7pM8om9H4NBEYYfNRC3rdH09qj/PiPSNFhT7vTWqO+cgj/4wFogc vRUFrLd1fke5iBX8thyugKNPYkpY4vM1QLg9aTJoE6uT3idx1qX7XnkKW/p7XFNw g/HXDpaEp4DKU6LQ7ZNJLAj4afg9h1AyGWa/ar/pEtl0BDUsk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=gW zjn0vA2QdxqSgUqeTTbtfKlCw=; b=YUkgz0PyIu5lSDfESezE+ny2UmPLyGYBr7 eYdC1iChtQGue8tUPlb1tZJISw0rL7TVfdbTrmMpfGqFtlpu4WHza4pQ4E8ideDF WsHQuhOUf0sj5EqKqMqYxXxb6glsMuzkfQ01eBMTeKeAX+AfFUmGzz5JngXKRjlT aMckoBM+g= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id F1EDF626D0; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:17:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483957057.146959.841616041.4E29575C@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483892527.3093246.840971961.57D12E9A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108174303.70efaf58.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:17:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170108174303.70efaf58.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install -space checked ,all was correct by sony X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:17:39 -0000 -space checked ,all was correct by sony ------------------ work by linux 16.04 64 bit myssid WPA & WPA 2 Enterprise Tunneled TLS anonymous@uni-hamburg.de # # that is outer identity equal by 20 000 + students PAP myid@uni-hamburg.de mypasswd Deutsche telecom RA Zertifikate -avoid Ipv4 -automaticaly -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 05:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:22:07 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > 1.Thank you for assistance > > > > 2. will test your suggest today ... > > > > 2.1.> > > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > > Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: > > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" > > > > 2.2 .... Correct, except the spaces. > > > > would use all without space > > example > > hostname ="sony" > ^ > > There us a space again. _NO_ spaces. > > > > > > key_mgmt="WPA-EAP" > > > > if not work > > > > key_mgmt=WPA-EAP > > I think the quotes can be omitted here, as you can see in the > example at 30.3.4.1.3.2. > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html > > > > > 3. The command > > > > > > # ifconfig wlan0 up scan > > > > would test ... used before from ifconfig man > > ifconfig wlan0 list scan > > Yes, test that - and you should probably see some kind of > "network identification" of the WLAN you want to connect to, > and it should match the information given to you by the > network maintainers. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 10:24:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F18CA6969 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17691153D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ECA21E39; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:24:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=5xdFR4udUlsvO7bU5QdSFPozF2 E=; b=IThjEoAg+JpcunrmvFNa33sMpA2cSkiRl1+AQTDDiaA4TFIg6XwUiVTVZ4 BoMj3LOYewcyaVpTAJUoB4eTIrG6igafbq22Kx0kIiERuXHDUA21UzVFBRkfWbTk ROml/BBXb2G7dQLSjtGQm1InRjp2JaoJ0DD01WCwcd7RH0Whk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=5x dFR4udUlsvO7bU5QdSFPozF2E=; b=YcTPMVejWZxrIVQ4PWc08sG2LYr1vyR0NN PSkhfzjEh9g5AUC1KoDZtrzEYwccXiUz4vV5Ml09ALgbKkyozbsTCAVJ6hPCM2Y7 dX5BxfgHeFnPjtEpeM8zzBc2A46geqEioLZjmbKhMyXr2ZB7xUDxJv5xY3sEDrjd 4pSNauBEs= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id EA21B626D0; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:24:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483957480.148106.841621305.4DB86D38@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483892527.3093246.840971961.57D12E9A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108174303.70efaf58.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483957057.146959.841616041.4E29575C@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1483957057.146959.841616041.4E29575C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:24:40 +0100 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - Uni Hamburg force all linux advicers out s 4.0ct 2016 ,worked as is ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:24:42 -0000 Re: Edison tactic - Uni Hamburg force all linux advicers out s 4.0ct 2016 ,worked as is ... If ask ,answer would - " ... We are not support freebsd ,it is your risk ,all linux advisers forced out &" https://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/services/netz/downloads.html If you are using an operating system we do not offe r a preconfigured software or profile for please configure the 802.1X access manually by applying th e following parameters: Authentication: WPA2 Encryption: AES EAP type: EAP-TTLS Outer identity: anonymous@uni-hamburg.de Certificate: "Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2" Authentication method: PAP User id / password: Your UHH user id and password Domain: uni-hamburg.de https://www.eduroam.org/support/eduroam-documentation/ author ssid is eduroam -that is standart -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 11:17 AM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > -space checked ,all was correct by sony > ------------------ > > work by linux 16.04 64 bit > > myssid > WPA & WPA 2 Enterprise > Tunneled TLS > anonymous@uni-hamburg.de # > # that is outer identity equal by 20 000 + students > PAP > myid@uni-hamburg.de > mypasswd > Deutsche telecom RA Zertifikate -avoid > Ipv4 -automaticaly > > > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 05:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:22:07 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > 1.Thank you for assistance > > > > > > 2. will test your suggest today ... > > > > > > 2.1.> > > > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > > > Or maybe you need to specify the SSID here: > > > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid WPA SYNC" > > > > > > 2.2 .... Correct, except the spaces. > > > > > > would use all without space > > > example > > > hostname ="sony" > > ^ > > > > There us a space again. _NO_ spaces. > > > > > > > > > > > key_mgmt="WPA-EAP" > > > > > > if not work > > > > > > key_mgmt=WPA-EAP > > > > I think the quotes can be omitted here, as you can see in the > > example at 30.3.4.1.3.2. > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html > > > > > > > > > 3. The command > > > > > > > > # ifconfig wlan0 up scan > > > > > > would test ... used before from ifconfig man > > > ifconfig wlan0 list scan > > > > Yes, test that - and you should probably see some kind of > > "network identification" of the WLAN you want to connect to, > > and it should match the information given to you by the > > network maintainers. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free > -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 10:26:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E651CA6A46 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348CB1641 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2D121E47; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:26:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=l165tCGAftW1ZQ9xw3aykY/xeV E=; b=Pdtns7IbFGx1ebaSLcxH2vkphdpDfpoyFJrdtNED4dFnb69q8q/HY5HMxh zFPnltPRVAxs/Ka4j6Fcm+puPEXwGLI1YX0+XbiwaimWFeT9fhQ/eS0NczcJsE3q bqFW0gstUAQ/aPeQ4Twve5KrShVBIUiZykBWwm7QhtCo8SDsk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=l1 65tCGAftW1ZQ9xw3aykY/xeVE=; b=Mindn6QqUPE8esyOKBFvnULfyydZU692hC ZGl7KyKTlZuv8hj5tabbUSE9Ip45M9Ou7GPHCMXiYAt9YWhAJ+Q0ih1pYnNkLm3B Z+Wxmnseo2UMk7qjuL9oRJwYWleB+T8eQNJMg+F6VNsPgwjvuW9i61hTlJH5mjI5 y3vpUwByQ= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 21EB2626D0; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483957562.148684.841626937.5127861C@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Boris Samorodov , Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> In-Reply-To: <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:26:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. ...would check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:26:03 -0000 Re: Edison tactic - PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. ...would check=20 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 06:38 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >=20 > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x0853= 0501 > >> #iwn0: device timeout > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > defective firmware? >=20 > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > Is it actually loaded? >=20 > PS. 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I've included my email below for ease of reference: On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I was on your page - http://freebsd.mirror.solnet.ch/es/ports/science.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. I found it whilst doing some research for our ultimate guide to NetCDF which has just been published and might make a good replacement if you are updating the page. Here's the link - http://wiht.link/NetCDF-resources. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Best, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 10:57:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C6ACA586C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F09461CBB for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AB321DD5; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:56:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=gAXaz7yp2rIsJ6A/GV40hwWRIs g=; b=QHOZlRqNEBkb9BnaeZX+9a5bMIHIuk7tzwMyv+WhT3lzoZ928HfJLFLNCN 3eujYPtGE6IF8LqdmVAWsSTTh4J5Bm5b0CNfaHcYGhvcd/4GV0kUP8JNup5z4pa+ khG2kOaXcnwBAuJTaPPttR7MSuvBv+0FlXq88Rk5SrlULwn4c= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=gA Xaz7yp2rIsJ6A/GV40hwWRIsg=; b=de19LGKkDdI0X140fVGqe4wD0O5TQBlRWK Qm1Uj4wqfzvNIZ7IffOkmHGF8aouU1aIHifeaHtk658stvvS91rJZP5t4Eun0MSI k90CHO1g0DhLuVDkJASefjPqL9aq5rLy32fCUpzBoZduFtfA7pj+T+XcDIJ8SWZ0 isS7YiRDI= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 54FDE6ABF2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 05:56:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon , Boris Samorodov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:56:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:57:02 -0000 Re: Edison tactic - checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? if file not exist ,which of another methode suited ? ... If rememmber correctly by installer default was Intel 5010 5010 ,it is not listed by man iwn processor is p8600 2*2.4 ghz=20 how define wireless card (receiver-transmitter) and software by freebsd on sony ? Which command ist it ?=20 =20=20=20=20 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 07:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >=20 > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x08= 530501 > > >> #iwn0: device timeout > > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > > defective firmware? > >=20 > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > > Is it actually loaded? >=20 > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > available firmwares). >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. >=20 > I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 11:34:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4680CCA67EF for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward3o.cmail.yandex.net (forward3o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::288]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC3AE1230 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (smtp2h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.145]) by forward3o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7EEED20DB0; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:34:26 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C18FC782013; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:34:23 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id aooceBKWbi-YM2awuLZ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:34:22 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? To: swjatoslaw gerus References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:34:22 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:34:30 -0000 Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. Thank you. 09.01.2017 13:56, swjatoslaw gerus пишет: > Re: Edison tactic - checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? man loader.conf > if file not exist ,which of another methode suited ? Just create it. > If rememmber correctly by installer default was Intel 5010 5010 ,it > is not listed by man iwn I'm not sure such adapter exists. > processor is p8600 2*2.4 ghz > > how define wireless card (receiver-transmitter) and software by > freebsd on sony ? > > Which command ist it ? man pciconf If/when driver is not loaded try this: % sudo pciconf -vlc | grep -A5 none Else if a driver is loaded (say, iwn) then: % sudo pciconf -vlc | grep -A5 iwn HTH -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 11:35:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC351CA68EE for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9199414C3 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E821E92; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 06:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:35:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=UH3cYLR2syy+9s/lfBDPgJdzuh o=; b=MaR9Ram5ZVrBjR0FN+3urmKq86OFJjC2q80h234tTExsg9NCj3evQ85OLl kewyYdz4pEKcKkazT9A3RLBSUC7KcOkgGzekzoNeNh9pEVDDd3oO3utbdzJvbAYV Nadax9qnJ65IfXa6ovcum4hq9Lk26KDvile051pKDQ0cgNyFY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=UH 3cYLR2syy+9s/lfBDPgJdzuho=; b=eWFMRNtyPWZ75BzxjIQSJ2zXRSZfr+U+jw zhjpkD2LKg840yYdvwjkKAsYBQRSuhsn3Pvva2OlU0HSzzY6kYof3OnlRof3YwDu ROoad4SwBabl+SGNcUaOdgwonr3NaRF5AZYHZEzHJhKq+C9iylJFKGjuxAw8pOHj im0b+vplA= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8E3C86ABF2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 06:35:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483961716.3293434.841684617.1D9968A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon , Boris Samorodov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Subject: linux eduroam UniversityLeibnitz wpa* ... suspect can be relevant for Freebsd Hamburg References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:35:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:35:18 -0000 linux eduroam UniversityLeibnitz wpa* ... suspect can be relevant for Freebsd Hamburg=20 https://www.lrz.de/services/netz/mobil/802_1x/802_1x-linux/ https://www.lrz.de/services/netz/mobil/802_1x/802_1x-linux/ --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 07:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >=20 > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x08= 530501 > > >> #iwn0: device timeout > > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > > defective firmware? > >=20 > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > > Is it actually loaded? >=20 > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > available firmwares). >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. >=20 > I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 11:37:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF73CA6A39 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 609131737 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F8B21AD7; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 06:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:37:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=rviUMq5B6+uPDddhwkQ/BFTvAW o=; b=BxPw3t6Mg9765TvUzyW61zeXeG5S0oTPOEejHLXb8E1ggehAPd2D7NykCr jGHdOabTD6SOQPop9hC2vvY31l4LlYfxnK4jLAK8WELOHUDI7/7S0naYOS4ObRwQ u2q1A2Q70hBVEd2kOSF90KGfeVJVrYc6vhUnTTFaq4bc78KT0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=rv iUMq5B6+uPDddhwkQ/BFTvAWo=; b=kSkPwdb5E7cBWUM58lO6GNOH5d3IUHDFI7 cwjHnNfLvdPFGRxVLWHMuuahjWPEAbh90XWgfks8CKJqsWtIT4xLyrNQpUGZZxyC MZMs8sFMuRIGXmHfXCR+GncrDFNJ6AG8hQFYwlS+ApOh9ln0L/ELbgJjSfVhVmYa Iw4vs3N50= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 388146ABF2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 06:37:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483961868.3294043.841686945.494AB419@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon , Boris Samorodov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483961716.3293434.841684617.1D9968A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:37:48 +0100 Subject: Re: linux eduroam University Hamburg -sorry only graphics ...germany text ,can translate In-Reply-To: <1483961716.3293434.841684617.1D9968A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:37:49 -0000 Re: linux eduroam University Hamburg -sorry only graphics=20=20 http://wpad.wlan.uni-hamburg.de/wlan-linux-kurz.pdf --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Mon, Jan 9, 2017, at 12:35 PM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > linux eduroam UniversityLeibnitz wpa* ... suspect can be relevant > for Freebsd Hamburg=20 >=20 >=20 > https://www.lrz.de/services/netz/mobil/802_1x/802_1x-linux/ > https://www.lrz.de/services/netz/mobil/802_1x/802_1x-linux/ >=20 > --=20 > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc >=20 > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 07:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:38:47 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > 08.01.2017 18:56, Polytropon =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > >=20 > > > >> # after that fat in display iwn0:iwn_read_firmware:ucode rev=3D0x= 08530501 > > > >> #iwn0: device timeout > > > >> #iwn0:iwn_panicked:controller panicked iv_state=3D5=20 > > > > Hmmm... maybe you have one of the devices with the partially > > > > defective firmware? > > >=20 > > > IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > > > Is it actually loaded? > >=20 > > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > > available firmwares). > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. > >=20 > > I'm almost sure I wrote this alrady, maybe several times... ;-) > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >=20 > --=20 > http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web >=20 --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 11:39:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5C0CA6C1F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9961C1A4A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cQXmF-0002MA-Qc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:06:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 12:06:11 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? Message-ID: <20170109110611.GA6185@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:39:41 -0000 El día Monday, January 09, 2017 a las 11:56:55AM +0100, swjatoslaw gerus escribió: > Re: Edison tactic - checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? > Please learn how to use your MUA to write mails and replies. Re/ your question, read 'man loader.conf' matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-176-38902045 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 14:31:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486FACA7BEB for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x233.google.com (mail-ua0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06727172E for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x233.google.com with SMTP id i68so358697163uad.0 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:31:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=R6FIYCMQV6kwyGzncaB14bmmfx0dOZ0pZ4uOOevfUlk=; b=dD4TCQ7/Qy8bgE45LWuIzAbNHOh8v8Nu67ZGOl3zvuIGnf+2h1kWt/udShF+auS3iD 4dW8eC5dEuACBvv643VJTM5KM8Z7eNpPpfHIQGC1ERmiwGXxXxU9iX+zoFgYpCk+OKnY 7Ai0TpfIQl9DhL++MR/S6BzyBDW0OQo9isxE7MfGvoTMKhpTHCzCziAKm6jHLk4s5OTy W/9RkSiMV9jAIY1iP1lbfGSyJnnL2Q6C+g36MSHz4uncpFsZmWsYmG1C/3LzQn5SK+VO /lPa48u/5AudFuejymXnfXyJeXw7ghGVI5GXXJp8nwHR/7bvOyVuoSHGSV4qksfyHw1W rFng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=R6FIYCMQV6kwyGzncaB14bmmfx0dOZ0pZ4uOOevfUlk=; b=mb+KC+lIzI4w8BsQh0BMZId4iXb8zv+Ulrkd64rwnmvmGlnHTw+h436+05mDugIvbO UKy9oUmGiMyOptPDxe2TRFSoPB+Y2/pGQsrr7lnTU+IYSY5GBFz96itPlpYU6gw2T8+8 sQFD9PZ/4CFPHPFpwGXYftyHwN6R6ycBXPMLhwMlhw6f9dMNXsPn5HCU9UecinyaklPO PFBmbkd1kek/46qjrVXvYTrzDLeRUEMvRTl0RfVPfDIZctN2K/gq2oSCrOOSvXguDp4p WMdWOTwSAfpGmP+cItDtyDa/ZFr7CcOE6edcelL0pG6Dvj15qAgUfGtGZjHvxCEv9LO6 4VuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLjeKLArHOzxMx2QDUCV6VXGmjOkLg9VLC0y5bDwhDgiQi6gyaqKDuPlZk7vZKGnmPNEe84LlVKoalcVA== X-Received: by 10.159.34.237 with SMTP id 100mr69245606uan.53.1483972279956; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:31:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.65.196 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 06:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: Pavel Timofeev Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:31:19 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: How to allow mlock(2) in jail? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:31:21 -0000 Hello! I'm trying to deploy security/vault in freebsd jail. Usually this tool locks some memory for security reason. I can run vault on my bare system without any problems. But in jail it complains mlock(2) is not available. So my question is how to allow mlock(2) in jail? P. S. I know, I can disable mlock(2) use in vault config as workaround. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 15:31:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F78CA7F46 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 15:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward1p.cmail.yandex.net (forward1p.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1465::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C622D10F9 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 15:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp3j.mail.yandex.net (smtp3j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:1::12]) by forward1p.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EEA5520D1B; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:31:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3j.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6F5B36240CFB; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:31:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id V4UaQBiOMp-V3LC1rpG; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:31:03 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: Dear Sir , Did Author understaand your suggest correctly - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. To: swjatoslaw gerus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483959415.3287060.841649409.385941EF@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483969029.3315983.841788905.40F553E1@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <42ed31fd-708c-cd4d-a46a-1eb7bafcdc04@passap.ru> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:31:02 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1483969029.3315983.841788905.40F553E1@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:31:09 -0000 Please, do not drop maillist address when replying (restored). 09.01.2017 16:37, swjatoslaw gerus пишет: > Dear Sir Did Author understand your suggest correctly > - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. > > > If not please correct the author You still use top posting. Google for "top posting". You do not use inline quoting (inline replies). Google for "posting style". Do you see the difference between your mails and mine? I, for one, can hardly read your mails (it's not the language but formatting that makes your mails almost unreadable). > ---------------------------------------------- > > 1.pciconf -vlc|grep -A5 iwn > Intel Wi-Fi link 5100 OK. > 2. man iwn > > ... > device iwn5000fw > device iwn5150fw > ... > device iwn6150fw > > 5100 not listed .Attempt install freebsd false ? 5100 is supported and it is clearly stated at the man page. Please, read full man page. > ############################################ > 3. man loader.conf > the file /boot/loader.rc must contain folloving two lines > > include /boot/loader.4th > start This information seems to be correct. But it's about /boot/loader.rc. Read the man page again. > 4. more loader.rc > > include /boot/loader.4th > try_include /boot/loader.rc.local > initialize > check-passwd > include /boot/beastie.4th > beastie-start > > # start as in p3 not included This file has nothing to do with your problem/question/case. Read me previous answer. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 16:00:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3A4CA7BC6 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 559B6185D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8507A21C93 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:00:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=J9hbaAdXnsYhhRbLNoh0msSG+c0=; b=CjrKLrz/tMZejpSWLhFdj nZRDYly6w8vvGWh3ktfoq5HmIX4f6xjZjuhTju0vfFr9wYXZ1XCfgI4VhcsJrnSP 4pa6VRsc6ekBoxUs0Z8JcgiCGooZVKE36KQ5/RTs5EGu7uMVTZaSXuTDW5SqpzHJ J291QQn7zzanVPKCp+/Dbw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=J9hbaAdXnsYhhRbLNoh0msSG+ c0=; b=DUh9ANGZfIxzUsGkSXUokp6dWWfWp1olVf7ZLvsLH6NuDEYeEq8IN7/HP UTw4d69rMffbNX83INR8kKmSaUVIr9GFGstLsdK8qFlNMunjivTDFrwORBYzgmvR jwnnLPUp5MvgBoytEt+y8QS3IBb1DgE5dK6B3CA4oMyxZmn+F0= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 64A456ABF2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:00:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Subject: Dear Sir ,Did Author understand your suggest correctly - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483977552.3345169.841962217.771E7522@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:00:02 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:00:04 -0000 In top-posting, little or no editing is done on the quoted reply: The quoted context is in reverse chronological order. It's hard to read for anyone joining the discussion later. Every message is quoted and re-quoted in its entirety - address, signatures and all. People who top-post and only read the top few lines of each message are oblivious to the size of the text they are quoting. Dozens or hundreds of lines of quoted material get re-quoted and passed on in every message. The message gets larger and larger. Since every new message contains all previous messages, if you try to text search your email for a specific phrase, your search returns not just the message you want, but also all the messages that redundantly quote that message. The redundant signatures pile up at the bottom of the message. ################################ Dear Sir Than you for your suggest , sorry but author not used google ,fb,linkedin ,twiter & , do not watched TV s 1982 and planned not any relation to software industry but will try to perform your suggest author would send only questions and answers simple demand tty, x11 without any desktop env ,not planned have in compjuter any 1kb of date (have 256 gb disk) only browsers firefox,opera,chromium ,tor wine ,virtualbox and some 300kb application software no any e-mail adress related to os in case of author task is simplier 1 x11 with signal parametr -level, frequency band ,free channels 2 x11 -to start application software ,browser youtube for pause and only 4 desk (exception until 6 in one time ) grinder on freebsd poker computer setup. Playing 6, 12 and 24 full ring cash game tables at the PokerStars online poker card room. The operating system is Windows 7, that is running as a virtual machine on a FreeBSD 9 open source operating system. The monitors are 24", running in a 16:10 resolution of 1920x1200. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cskHgiqva7g wish good mood ,would check your writing Callas O don fatale (Eboli) Don Carlo 1962 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcLPqpSJ6g -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 16:18:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9D6CA7466 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14AE619EC for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:21:03 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 684DB3CC3F; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v09GICuH001985; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dear Sir ,Did Author understand your suggest correctly - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. Message-Id: <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 979786BE6F9 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2237 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:18:24 -0000 On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:00:02 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Dear Sir > > Than you for your suggest , sorry but author not used google > ,fb,linkedin ,twiter & , do not watched TV > s 1982 and planned not any relation to software industry That has nothing to do with "mailing list politeness". On this mailing list, as on many others, top-posting is discouraged because it destroys the "reading flow". Look at my replies for example: I only quote what I reply to, and I write my replies below the text I'm referencing. This might help you understand why top-posting is such a problem, especially in (more or less) technical discussions: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Or even simpler: A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? I think it is clear now. :-) > but will try to perform your suggest author would send only > questions and answers Learn to use your mailer program properly. Use the "reply to all" or "reply to mailing list" function for the answers you got. Do not open a new discussion thread with every reply. Do you have an idea how terrible this looks in the mailing list archive? > simple demand tty, x11 without any desktop env ,not planned have > in compjuter any 1kb of date (have 256 gb disk) > only browsers firefox,opera,chromium ,tor wine ,virtualbox No problem. All this software is available on FreeBSD. But you need to get your priorities right: FIRST is to get your wireless networking up. SECOND is to install the software, THIRD is to configure it to your needs. Additionally, you _always_ need to conform to "list politeness" by doing your "homework": 1. Read the documentation mentioned. Re-read messages that also covered the topic or question. 2. Write what you did, exact command line preferred. 3. Write what the system replied or how it reacted, exact message preferred. 4. State what diagnostic steps you have already taken. Consider the messages that have already been written. You will find most answers there. > and > some 300kb application software 300 kB? What software would that be, please? ;-) > no any e-mail adress related to os You can use a good GUI or TUI mailer (Thunderbird, Sylpheed, alpine and others you can choose from, "connected" with IMAP), or just use a crappy web mailer. :-) > in case of author task is simplier 1 x11 with signal parametr -level, > frequency band ,free channels > 2 x11 -to start application software ,browser youtube for pause That is where FreeBSD shines in comparison to many mainstream Linux distributions: You can exactly select which software to install and how to use. > and only 4 desk (exception until 6 in one time ) Virtual desktops? Those can be added to fvwm2, and they are built-in to WindowMaker. Please re-read the suggestions and examples for window managers. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 16:40:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4090CA7BD4 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22c.google.com (mail-vk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E72F1B4D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id r136so7074267vke.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 08:40:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LhRuMM5ac7dkMPufbx+VuKj+QqXvBQVMYGbPrEQkovU=; b=CF/MzBenSF9WPbCzOaqUrA5r9Rt7QKAaxxm7W3bWUgtv/wxOMCCkSLozZO2Zl8YLvy bpG/+gqdTASSSA3lEnn/4aKDCzJYYBby+jsKQQ88OCuL5CT+FCGxPK9aZgKAkLa/tdCE sD8SGhKyVcyOX36R9m9spgptQvOz+rhY5xKCFCcVNTcKF1TQGnXleB3i0n5880+NDAXM wh6iL9hFyyOlopy2TzFA2hM7AuE0CbnIox80uh3id5Zk8nVn8dzLxj7YSEAR1hyGjiq3 glMTGr0xPKCMzDguxT8xLqdmBpEogEwRlagYSLKH20ZvK4G6h2T8RnPmYWPx73iMyg6v O+gA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=LhRuMM5ac7dkMPufbx+VuKj+QqXvBQVMYGbPrEQkovU=; b=KP1upFyL+lIjhkAPUVcaHL5Op/37Y8M9u5D4nK7uJC2qZEaip678WFEemPeASvbXp7 ntTFtPpeAqcfbEBwj19bwMtbWJ3vMgt9lIdU6OeJVFuH6HWGWm2ddklZQeJ2hdAn3/GX GZoT9CHTLTU2YQcl7svFqqHUMk5vx8eCmXXGpEn1GOn8eZFzmYlmOUzEYEgKscvSeLwT VU7lszWJ5+F/hhkH0ZeKGRga+11mFTHLYfY1Qvxi21vFhguPgGRInerNd3WlXWwvLtKw 6jV4xnkxfpB/hXLC+0+nBzJJkb1Obur4sUysEby930hqBwtyJvChx6rsDgNCOvnvsc2u COxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXK6KK059KHIMHq8k5wKsq+VLzpTJQXjqT0aAJYfgFdz7zBp1dJ8qOOINXyk0ikW/7gKzrO+K/jG10i2uw== X-Received: by 10.31.226.65 with SMTP id z62mr467513vkg.11.1483980018457; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 08:40:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.94.132 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 08:40:18 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bycn82@dragonflybsd.org From: Bill Yuan Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:40:18 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:40:19 -0000 Hi, Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a process is the root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can someone please help to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. #top 52 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU: 3.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 95.9% idle Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 25592 root 10 25 0 778M 9272K uwait 3 0:38 19.02% .swap 25599 root 1 20 0 7416K 2596K CPU0 0 0:00 0.11% top #ps -axd | grep swap 25481 0 S+ 0:00.00 | | `-- grep swap 22927 - Ss 172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap #uname -a FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Regards, Bycn82 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 17:04:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A95CA78C8 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3969416A2 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v09H4GCT039160 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:04:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v09H4Gg0039157; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:04:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:04:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: bycn82@dragonflybsd.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:04:16 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:04:26 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > Hi, > Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a process is the > root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can someone please help > to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. > > #top > 52 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU: 3.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 95.9% idle > Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free > Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 25592 root 10 25 0 778M 9272K uwait 3 0:38 19.02% > .swap > 25599 root 1 20 0 7416K 2596K CPU0 0 0:00 0.11% top > > #ps -axd | grep swap > 25481 0 S+ 0:00.00 | | `-- grep swap > 22927 - Ss 172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap > > #uname -a > FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu > Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 > root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 That does not look good to me. A hidden file named ".swap" that is *running*, and as root? I would immediately disconnect that machine from the net and then check to see if that's a compromise, because it sure looks fishy. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 17:09:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D57CA7023 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0854B10FA for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:11:42 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2893CBF9; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:09:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v09H9J3c002242; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:09:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:09:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - keymap="de", wlans_iwn0="wlan0", ifconfig_wlan0="WPA & WPA2 Enterprise " ...privacy on Message-Id: <20170109180919.f4726ed4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483953900.3528029.841566129.683EDB76@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483953900.3528029.841566129.683EDB76@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with D3B29683427 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.3787 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:09:30 -0000 Allow me to summarize your many "unthreaded" messages. Honestly: Please learn to use your mailing program (or web interface) properly. It isn't that hard. Show some respect for the participants of this mailing list. On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:25:00 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: Edison tactic - > 1. >=20 > keymap=3D"de" > wlans_iwn0=3D"wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA & WPA2 Enterprise "=20 > ...privacy on =20 I assume you did use the _correct_ setting for infoncif_wlan0, and what you presented is just a paraphrasing placeholder. :-) > In University linux notation was tunneled TLS=20 > and PAP , if entry was allcorrect ,but without PAP > - not worked=20 That is a somewhat strange description. > ---------------------- > 2.Only mobile application=20 >=20 > Need some equal indicator of wlan network as Hewlett Paccard =20 > Linux 16.04=20 I have no idea what "Hewlett Paccard Linux 16.04" is. The version number looks like Ubuntu is meant. > watch -n1 iwconfig=20 >=20 > Can see segnal level in sec ... -54 dbm -84 dbm in 5-10 metr=20 > by -84 dbm network crashed , ...browser ...parsing due worst network > connectivity .. >=20 > Tested mutiple days -suspect date/measurement are relevant > ------------- I still suspect it's a firmware issue with the specific wireless network card that you have... > a.not found equal "watch" by FreeBSD=20 Have you even tried "man watch"? > b.found S =3D -76 ,N=3D -95 by myssid=20 > Anna Ipod S-61=20 You're starting to explore the fun of wireless diagnostics. :-) On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:33:53 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > University Hamburg Notation >=20 > Authehtication WPA2 > Encryption AES > EAP Type -EAP-TTLS > Outer identity -anonymous@uni-hamburg.de =20 > Authentication method PAP > User ID myid@uni-hamburg.de > passwd mypassd Okay, _that_ looks like understandable access information. You already have the relevant settings for access control in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf (hopefully _correct_, as I said, spaces matter). So basically you need to activate the correct _mode_ for the wireless network interface. On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:17:37 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > -space checked ,all was correct by sony Excellent. > work by linux 16.04 64 bit=20 That is _Ubuntu_, right? > myssid > WPA & WPA 2 Enterprise=20 > Tunneled TLS=20 > anonymous@uni-hamburg.de # > # that is outer identity equal by 20 000 + students=20 > PAP > myid@uni-hamburg.de=20 > mypasswd=20 > Deutsche telecom RA Zertifikate -avoid=20 > Ipv4 -automaticaly=20 Good, so you'll get an address via DHCP. Why don't they just write "DHCP"? On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:24:40 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: Edison tactic - Uni Hamburg force all linux advicers out s 4.0ct > 2016 ,worked as is ... I have no idea what this means... sorry... > If ask ,answer would - " ... We are not support freebsd ,it is your > risk ,all linux advisers forced out &" You don't need OS-specific support, just the correct information that the wireless network expects you to implement so you will be able to connect to that network. Even though this information is reflected in different files and formats across the many versions of Linux, as well as on FreeBSD or Solaris, it's more or less the same "idea" behind it. > https://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/services/netz/downloads.html The relevant information is stated here: https://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/services/netz/daten/manual/wlan-uhh-en.pdf You also got your individual user information (name and password), so _after_ you got your network _hardware_ to work properly, you're good to start. > If you are using an operating system we do not offe > r a preconfigured software or profile for please > configure the 802.1X access manually by applying th > e following parameters: > Authentication: > WPA2 > Encryption: > AES > EAP type: > EAP-TTLS > Outer identity: > anonymous@uni-hamburg.de > Certificate: > "Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2"=20 > Authentication method: PAP > User id / password: > Your UHH user id and password > Domain: > uni-hamburg.de > author ssid is eduroam -that is standart=20 Good you know that. Now you can configure /etc/rc.conf according to that information. On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:26:02 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: Edison tactic - PS. Use "man iwn" for more info. ...would check=20 If you do so, you'll find out that your wireless network card needs to load a specific firmware. On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:56:55 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: Edison tactic - checked man iwn ,where is loader.conf file ? See "man loader.conf", the path is /boot/loader.conf. > if file not exist ,which of another methode suited ? Just create it, for example with an editor (because you need to put some information there anyway): # ee /boot/loader.conf add line: if_iwn_load=3D"YES" iwn5000fw_load=3D"YES" Esc Enter Enter -> save & exit Of course you need to know _which_ firmware you must load. The brand and model of your network card will tell you. There are several firmwares to choose from: iwn1000fw_load=3D"YES" iwn100fw_load=3D"YES" iwn105fw_load=3D"YES" iwn135fw_load=3D"YES" iwn2000fw_load=3D"YES" iwn2030fw_load=3D"YES" iwn4965fw_load=3D"YES" iwn5000fw_load=3D"YES" iwn5150fw_load=3D"YES" <=3D=3D=3D I assume this one. iwn6000fw_load=3D"YES" iwn6000g2afw_load=3D"YES" iwn6000g2bfw_load=3D"YES" iwn6050fw_load=3D"YES" Use only _the one_ that applies to your actual hardware. Again, I'm not sure if you need to do this (I don't own that kind of hardware), or if you've just misconfigured something in a different place (WLAN connection configuration, not WLAN hardware configuration). As soon as this aspect is working, your WLAN connection should be working (given that the authentication information is valid). > If rememmber correctly by installer default was Intel 5010 5010 ,it > is not listed by man iwn It should be covered by the 5000 family. And as you said you already have an entry for iwn0 in "ifconfig -a" output, it looks like the iwn driver supports your card (or it wouldn't have been loaded). > processor is p8600 2*2.4 ghz=20 This has nothing to do with networking. > how define wireless card (receiver-transmitter) and software by > freebsd on sony ? The card is already supported, it's probably just missing the firmware. There is nothing you need to "define". > Which command ist it ?=20 All the required commands have been presented and explained several times. There is no "one command". The information, depending on the aspect of the wireless connection, has to be entered to the appropriate files, which you should have done by now. I assume only minor configuration tweaks are needed. If you want to find out which hardware the wireless card is, use the following command: # pciconf -lv | less or just # pciconf -lv and use the Scroll Lock key to scroll up if there are more lines than your display will show. You will then see all the relevant hardware in your computer. Look for the one that looks like a wireless network adapter. Here is an example, look for something similar: wpi0@pci0:3:0:0: class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x10118086 chip=3D0x42278086 rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' device =3D 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' class =3D network Note the "vendor" and "device" information. You'll quickly find it when you look for "network". On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:35:16 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > linux eduroam UniversityLeibnitz wpa* ... suspect can be relevant > for Freebsd Hamburg=20 >=20 >=20 > https://www.lrz.de/services/netz/mobil/802_1x/802_1x-linux/ They suggest the wpa_supplicant.conf method as well, followed by obtaining an IP via DHCP. wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf=20 dhcpcd -n wlan0 oder dhclient wlan0 On FreeBSD, this works similar, as I already wrote. There is also an example for wpa_supplicant.conf (my translation of the german comments) to connect using PEAP/MSCHAPV2: network=3D{ ssid=3D"eduroam" key_mgmt=3DWPA-EAP eap=3DPEAP ca_cert=3D"/etc/ssl/certs/Deutsche_Telekom_Root_CA_2.pem" # must match Radius-Real / Radius-Server phase2=3D"auth=3DMSCHAPV2" identity=3D"kennung@eduroam.mwn.de" # replace eduroam.mwn.de by matching Radius-Realm ersetzen domain_suffix_match=3D"radius.lrz.de" # this option is only available to newer versions # of wpa_supplicant; must match Radius-Realm / Radius-Server=20 subject_match=3D"radius.lrz.de"=20 # only for older versions, is weaker than domain_suffix_match, # must match Radius-Realm / Radius-Server anonymous_identity=3D"anonymous@mwn.de" # or anonymous@heimat-uni-realm password=3D"XXXX" # alternatively create hash: # https://wlan.lrz.de/cgi-bin/nt-password-hash.py=20 # password=3Dhash:XXXX } But that's for Bavaria, not Hamburg, so don't copy 1:1. :-) To connect via TTLS+PAP, they suggest: network=3D{ ssid=3D"eduroam" key_mgmt=3DWPA-EAP eap=3DTTLS identity=3D"kennung@eduroam.mwn.de" # eduroam.mwn.de ggf. durch das passende Radius-Realm ersetzen domain_suffix_match=3D"radius.lrz.de" # die Option ist nur bei neueren wpa_supplicant-Versionen # verf=FCgbar, muss zum Radius-Realm bzw. Radius-Server passen=20 subject_match=3D"radius.lrz.de" # f=FCr =E4ltere Versionen, ist schw=E4cher als domain_suffix_match, # muss zum Radius-Realm bzw. Radius-Server passen anonymous_identity=3D"anonymous@mwn.de" # bzw. anonymous@heimat-uni-realm password=3D"XXXX" #(wird f=FCr PAP im Klartext ben=F6tigt) ca_cert=3D"/etc/ssl/certs/Deutsche_Telekom_Root_CA_2.pem" # muss zum Radius-Real bzw. Radius-Server passen phase2=3D"auth=3DPAP" } I don't need to translate all this, you can see the obvious difference (last line). On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:37:48 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Re: linux eduroam University Hamburg -sorry only graphics =20 >=20 > http://wpad.wlan.uni-hamburg.de/wlan-linux-kurz.pdf I get only timeouts here... On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:37:49 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >=20 >=20 > Dear Sir Did Author understand your suggest correctly > - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting.=20 Yes. > 1.pciconf -vlc|grep -A5 iwn > Intel Wi-Fi link 5100 Okay, the model 5100 might be covered by the 5150 firmware, at least it's worth a try. > 2. man iwn=20 >=20 > ... > device iwn5000fw > device iwn5150fw > ... > device iwn6150fw >=20 > 5100 not listed .Attempt install freebsd false ? No. You already seem to have the card recognized and the driver attached, so check that firmware thing. Additionally, when I look at https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Diwn&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D4&man= path=3DFreeBSD+11.0-RELEASE&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml I read the following DESCRIPTION The iwn driver provides support for: [...] Intel Centrino Wireless-N 5100 [...] I assume that shows the device is supported. It's just a question now _if_ it needs additional firmware, and if yes, _which_ additional firmware must be provided. > 3. man loader.conf=20 > the file /boot/loader.rc must contain folloving two lines=20 >=20 > include /boot/loader.4th > start Do you see the difference between "loader.con" and "loader.rc"? You need to concentrate. The relevant configuration goes into loader.conf. The file loader.rc has been created by the installer. See the "FILES" section at the bottom of the manual: FILES /boot/defaults/loader.conf default settings -- do not change this fil= e. /boot/loader.4th defines the commands used by loader to read and process loader.conf. /boot/loader.conf user defined settings. /boot/loader.conf.local machine-specific settings for sites with a common loader.conf. /boot/loader.rc contains the instructions to automatically process loader.conf. You need to create /boot/loader.conf. > 4. more loader.rc NB: "more" is "less". :-) On FreeBSD, "less" is the pager people typically use. > include /boot/loader.4th > try_include /boot/loader.rc.local=20 > initialize=20 > check-passwd > include /boot/beastie.4th > beastie-start=20 A correct content - but the wrong file. Check: # less /boot/loader.conf If it isn't there, create and populate it as instructed. Again: I do not own a laptop with Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100, so I cannot tell you if the 5150 firmware might work with that piece. But you can quickly try it. I still think you have some problem in your WLAN configuration. Compare with the examples again. Concentrate on the details. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 17:31:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B0BCA7E31 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CBEF114F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C9221CA2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 12:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:31:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=X9tAzLSJuJB9mQDX6gw/gKAe3s k=; b=doPbGdkaG1C91jC2Jffc9qBJScI0zTLlJPS94AqaHFHdfCaSnncz0Xlss1 9OLM1fVuhocXhyU6+mGNHkuNnrAhcMO7Hfg0+lx6SGUgKJWc5IzfjLH5Vc5YTHEX NvG2gIgPFA3hN5VTrRgPnJHxlByeuAXoSgLpDIjenK470IZnc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=X9 tAzLSJuJB9mQDX6gw/gKAe3sk=; b=I0xPsc62u3WDEkHN39LCEMczCH43pVDu1u c+3T/wXVmigq3MNhP7HDTOCXGyWe+Du6cBPT2OND44+asb4YjOIVWUOcUGv+VeRx /ZH5b+LbTcALg0w3MmG2YKqFbHhj5eG4zyPSoZspdGKsjBomr0x5nzDP+3evicSZ jExb/aFYw= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 3426E6ABF2; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 12:31:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483983089.3364458.842076465.19FCF1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 In-Reply-To: <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: test -Use the "reply to all" References: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:31:29 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:31:31 -0000 Use the "reply to all" test is it correct ? Excuse the author for stress ,which was made for all participants After bsd installed or author would come to point ,that not suited for freebsd please delete thread .Author need only one time in life Your respectfully Wish good mood Renata Tebaldi/Sophia Loren "Ritorna Vincitor" from Aida https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03QPuO9XTs -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 17:59:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1F7CA781C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E242814AB for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:59:25 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E36D3CBF9; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:59:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v09HxC21002480; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:59:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:59:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: test -Use the "reply to all" Message-Id: <20170109185912.d285b30c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483983089.3364458.842076465.19FCF1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483983089.3364458.842076465.19FCF1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 2159B68343B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:59:23 -0000 On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:31:29 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Use the "reply to all" > > > test > > is it correct ? Yes, looks correct (reply received directly and from the list). But use it on the message you reply to without changing the subject (the subject line usually keeps the same across the whole thread, only "Re:" is prefixed for replies after the initial post). Example: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question Re: Some question This is how a thread with several "question and answer turns" could look like. > After bsd installed or author would come to point ,that not suited > for freebsd I don't think there is a specific FreeBSD-related "unsuitedness", but the problem might be a more general one. Why not keep using Linux for the time being, and asking on a Ubuntu-related mailing list or web forum for your Tor problem? Keep the FreeBSD install intact, re-read the messages, compare to the manuals and the online documentation, and fix your configuration. Once your WLAN connection works on FreeBSD, install the additional software you need. But don't make it a top priority for now. When using FreeBSD, you'll see that you're using a much more comprehensible, maintainable and logically structured system compared to most Linux distributions. You get _safe_ software, much less bloated, on top of a carefully designed secure operating system with powerful tools and excellent documentation. Of course there is a learning curve - denying it would be stupid -, but there is a learning curve everywhere. As you are located at a university, attempting to gain knowledge, experience and understanding, learning "how to FreeBSD" is nothing that would be wrong in general, even though it _might_ not be your first priority for now. Depending on _what_ you're studying, FreeBSD could become a valuable tool for you to achieve your goals during the educational course (as it was for me). > please delete thread .Author need only one time in life It's not possible to delete messages from a public mailing list that has several public mirrors and archives. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 23:22:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5DCA8B6F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 23:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from hz.citrin.ru (hz.citrin.ru [88.198.212.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22F631FDA for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 23:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from x220.lan (c-24-60-168-172.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [24.60.168.172]) by hz.citrin.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23E9D29A32F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 23:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Anton Yuzhaninov Message-ID: <8b8e732e-42cb-9337-02ad-25115a17edb8@citrin.ru> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:22:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrin.ru; s=s0; t=1484004140; bh=XKj52mNY2OEnfWruW/6NyV+sj2xrEiu6UyZUuikkubo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5oRG/v9oCrqtT+ncH40TpuAQB3LVq0FFHvXQcj3oDW8+fq+E/Tet0PP5D8rnyMPVwf+5GMSFqg3IMB0rAxliwUNjOU9ZYqBy+AcVlqm61WTIeFaiJig50j3c8yyFAPJd3iESgvkCf/mXgN+jKfD3ZdluHWwc42/Ya41WTUREV0Q= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 23:22:29 -0000 On 01/08/17 13:03, Polytropon wrote: >> IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. >> Is it actually loaded? > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > available firmwares). > Firmware for iwn is build as module and can be loaded from modeles path. There is no need to add entries to loader.conf dmesg should contain strings like: iwn0: iwn_read_firmware: ucode rev=0x12a80601 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 23:58:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07317CA85E3 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 23:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ACD517B0 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 23:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:58:15 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDDA33CBF9; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:58:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v09Nw15L003570; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:58:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:58:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Yuzhaninov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install Message-Id: <20170110005801.a089a5b3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8b8e732e-42cb-9337-02ad-25115a17edb8@citrin.ru> References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <8b8e732e-42cb-9337-02ad-25115a17edb8@citrin.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 7EA3168343E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1859 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 23:58:09 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:22:18 -0500, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On 01/08/17 13:03, Polytropon wrote: > >> IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. > >> Is it actually loaded? > > Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? > > If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be > > added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the > > available firmwares). > > > > Firmware for iwn is build as module and can be loaded from modeles path. > There is no need to add entries to loader.conf > > dmesg should contain strings like: > iwn0: iwn_read_firmware: ucode rev=0x12a80601 Thank you, _that_ is really valuable information. I have seen the modules, but I wasn't sure if they needed to be loaded via loader.conf or if this would happen automatically. So for the OP, firmware is not the problem, as "ifconfig -a" already stated that the iwn0 and wlan0 devices are available. He's probably kust lacking the crazy configuration details that the wireless network requires. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 00:06:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70315CA8C2F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C865D1FBA for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:06:52 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F6A3CBF9; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:06:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0A06d0D003605; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:06:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:06:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: test -Use the "reply to all" Message-Id: <20170110010639.29084e1a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1484004203.3434576.842460689.758FEE06@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483983089.3364458.842076465.19FCF1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170109185912.d285b30c.freebsd@edvax.de> <1484004203.3434576.842460689.758FEE06@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with CA1A868343E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:06:44 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:23:23 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > How can see output of command > > ifconfig wlan0 ssid eduroam channel 1 roaming AUTO > > can not see > > can see > > ifconfig wlan0 You don't need to manually call those commands if you are sure about the settings; just enter them to /etc/rc.conf. If you want to do some testing, refer to the procedure I provided you: # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf # dhclient wlan0 # ifconfig -a Make sure /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf has all the details. Things like the SSID will be configured _there_. The files you need to pay attention to are /etc/rc.conf (WLAN basics) and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf (WLAN access). Those need to reflect the setting the WLAN requires. > loader.conf setting correctly Yes, nothing is needed additionally. > can see by poweron first speedy text > but iwn0 effect is not eliminated Try this: # dmesg | less The program "dmesg" will display the system messages again. Or when you are on the 1st virtual terminal (where the boot messages appear), press the Scroll Lock key and use the arrow and page keys to scroll up and read; press Scroll Lock again to return to "conversational mode". > With chance 90 % author attempt install BSD is false I'd say it's 99 % that you just made a mistake in your WLAN access configuration - nothing you cannot resolve when you pay attention to the details. > checked setting by university Berlin,Hamburg It's a very crappy configuration, but not impossible to implement. It needlessly complicated in my opinion, but hey, _I_ am not running a students' WLAN. ;-) > that all linux ... Software freedom and software freedom live from diversity, not from monoculture and "security by obscurity". You will eventually understand that, and those who try to impose a specific OS on you will understand as well, or have the shit hacked out of them some day. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:48:46 -0000 Pavel Timofeev wrote: > Hello! > I'm trying to deploy security/vault in freebsd jail. > Usually this tool locks some memory for security reason. > > I can run vault on my bare system without any problems. But in jail it > complains mlock(2) is not available. > So my question is how to allow mlock(2) in jail? > > P. S. I know, I can disable mlock(2) use in vault config as workaround. > A jail has no kernel so no memory to lock. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 01:04:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB25CA6CA2 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from hz.citrin.ru (hz.citrin.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d16:10c3::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E28CF1C71 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from x220.lan (c-24-60-168-172.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [24.60.168.172]) by hz.citrin.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1165429A32E for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: How to allow mlock(2) in jail? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Anton Yuzhaninov Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:04:51 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrin.ru; s=s0; t=1484010293; bh=UMjAvUBiIWQxbqvP54Q1GLTTQ09blSU8/BmiSBCIDdc=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ch/7mq+ayLI0Cm6lP6q44ppUk9Oj4EwQou4YSCDWJBOHbi51jURbnLd3rjMkQctXQej3UkS4DivkuJYI9bBvMHVCN3XEo1KXRFTUXwlwpbJ/uAnhZrwoKyqshWC4oWFSWdKel+aysSIaTyxP4YZOVkDJ5nII19v1NbgjlvGxl7w= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:04:56 -0000 On 01/09/17 09:31, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > I'm trying to deploy security/vault in freebsd jail. > Usually this tool locks some memory for security reason. > > I can run vault on my bare system without any problems. But in jail it > complains mlock(2) is not available. > So my question is how to allow mlock(2) in jail? Currently mlock(2) is not available inside jail. I think it is possible to implement new jail parameter to allow mlock. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 01:19:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411ACCA7746 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x241.google.com (mail-pf0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 193CB1680 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x241.google.com with SMTP id y143so4954086pfb.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:19:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y246Ji+l+YQTyaGZJZ8PsdAv2a9qWex7mfX9aWNTFk4=; b=TLxdYrWcnkXEprLoRdO+deTkh+NKwWsNBOLxOOadKRbpIRvxsIZbg5q2iThyhgnSs7 u5i5pQ8Mk+/H3EqjLEaUuSXysn8pHxFyAR0sjfpfQ9dMs0Yo+pfHLU97fUMfFhMiSC/k KB1JozPsH8uQaCkwUdnxIaaYFbx9+UlXkTiA7qmfcdQfwbmXuMS7W3i+2mOamfswop3I fsmByxqBqZDQ7MMvjdVUYYZOGrWFSRArvOMwD+VPlQF6x7cVv7O57Ihjm2ZOGMCu6PZs CvJkSbkTLVowj2MDqeb+O7Y4BOv6zIVAipDaxkIdFcbx/xpFNbcc25kVsYMNSDoVAbAq l/QQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y246Ji+l+YQTyaGZJZ8PsdAv2a9qWex7mfX9aWNTFk4=; b=Bz0/jCdGl5jqK8vDVdqYYqSevQapLB3zP763NnaVouad6Vr4LzYHdjdaxCjF94Swrx joFnvzyOmfQkWkkGj3ZHgzf3UbELhn7T9WWD6KAyGtHI6jHTw5sRMZAH/5px9SvzFqkn U7dAL7M8940+CdlfnBD3L2myBCByir2t/bW84+MTXkK+IoGkHlc+nrsZiW6iLetp4/aZ x9D9ZK3pSYQZU5hG5RTFZLQsf49RAWRcvR0FGjsU6Q71DP7FfHYT9WNtdaHpuIktEv3r Gorz21VqExNeLXc8+FcffFE0H9tWy5Vke7eD1KPhf4fS6cdDB8/0CEkNEbkLiByNZFdt b+eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKQjBd6SVbOQ5lU6TLH1EDworCytZISOqnd0Oq2KhYqzF6kh3D+yz6RThZWtB0HXA== X-Received: by 10.84.164.231 with SMTP id l36mr935666plg.33.1484011198637; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([120.29.76.161]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 89sm299720pfi.70.2017.01.09.17.19.57 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <587436BE.20207@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:19:58 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve O'Hara-Smith CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Resource Limits Within Jails References: <118410c1-1e3e-2388-ea5b-682515bc39f1@ssimicro.com> <20170105191847.705e2e863078640a98bfb330@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20170105191847.705e2e863078640a98bfb330@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:19:59 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:53:55 -0700 > markham breitbach wrote: > >> I am trying to figure out the best way to manage resource limits for a >> particular daemon within a jail (specifically memory usage), without >> having to limit the entire jail and other processes within. > > Not specific to jails but one way is to start the daemon from a > shell script and use ulimit to set resource limits before execing the > daemon. > I remember reading about resource limiting functions being added to the base system in 10.x or maybe it was a port. I don't recall its name. It has ability to do jail resource limiting. It has also been talked about on this list. Do a find on "resource limiting" in this list archives. 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[209.85.218.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l6sm155790oia.22.2017.01.09.17.33.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 3so529588672oih.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:33:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.202.102.227 with SMTP id m96mr267513oik.5.1484012027638; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:33:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.8.84 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:33:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <587436BE.20207@gmail.com> References: <118410c1-1e3e-2388-ea5b-682515bc39f1@ssimicro.com> <20170105191847.705e2e863078640a98bfb330@sohara.org> <587436BE.20207@gmail.com> From: Jov Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:33:27 +0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Resource Limits Within Jails To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:33:49 -0000 hi, It is rctl. man rctl get more info. and you should add kern.racct.enable=1 to /boot/loader.conf and reboot to make the function enabled. 2017-01-10 9:19 GMT+08:00 Ernie Luzar : > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:53:55 -0700 >> markham breitbach wrote: >> >> I am trying to figure out the best way to manage resource limits for a >>> particular daemon within a jail (specifically memory usage), without >>> having to limit the entire jail and other processes within. >>> >> >> Not specific to jails but one way is to start the daemon from a >> shell script and use ulimit to set resource limits before execing the >> daemon. >> >> > I remember reading about resource limiting functions being added to the > base system in 10.x or maybe it was a port. I don't recall its name. It has > ability to do jail resource limiting. It has also been talked about on this > list. Do a find on "resource limiting" in this list archives. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 02:55:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A0FCA8041 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x236.google.com (mail-vk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E42413A9 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id r136so14632137vke.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:55:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=8ulu6yV1gUdM5JOT7BPbj7+Fc1E33KXE3RrZOkxsF0s=; b=BncqsW9Ih/hEZNfmIW8YcgR/MGwIlRJ8Kh2HQj58ok6Ia1zkheqIYXRe6h2DPcywgi rWSxLicwcYjXxTbgSw6rlFA9E2WMMq6LHkQijaTbw/6vs+XWPogMag6ySvhcUGUExEuV cocEZbUOhpeGb6+bR28xzXHBPutLxeQToMkP2le3KGmpMKAVHq5XbGGgw4cnv9+cIqPh WDiPeyBKvX93/DQVO2utOYHeF+GJWySzK9qRB2jhrM2og0xfjLvj+AvIvv9R6b2EHmAK glnz5YJICVN6SfZ2yr/WpRlKAKNtGT9QdfPPAUHHLYd9nMZtwAIvozTEsoia/D37FVW5 cXmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8ulu6yV1gUdM5JOT7BPbj7+Fc1E33KXE3RrZOkxsF0s=; b=eFAf6qMmrQ0zB+pDJSrGYSVjKe/X3iHkwgB6WcDaLYnSnMyJBqYtfu0bWtgqIiBr29 AoKEzI7RlCWdHaP3ZQKbVHQfaiVLXyngSBibbmGgxeQvkCPBzKB7OHEQLZydMt7Ml5MQ FqM1GD2YykUhzR5yjMRsDH0a079lmo77Ni9aPZwPh9I6Q/vYjKKP3iA+dRlxDyiPka34 +kEVCJHZFgt99r+fOG5MSc+bOYlUHoMBwVhgboHoWln1wdwQQcM7YBvaNxfbJ4O6mX99 XaOaEjQje5Qf8FRdLr/kFbE6tu91hTYNip1Myktfx/GpXLnZWGosBfgUTJVZQrLRhSQy AH0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLbPAzD80yiTacsqFe+J2/Ns/SppbYJzlU4z7NTJxxXsBp5NJlrZGpfOXhBJMIMYXi10pAaOtKhVjXg0Q== X-Received: by 10.31.214.7 with SMTP id n7mr438810vkg.36.1484016926552; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:55:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.94.132 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 18:55:26 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bycn82@dragonflybsd.org In-Reply-To: References: From: Bill Yuan Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:55:26 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy To: Warren Block Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:55:27 -0000 I =E2=80=8Bt is inside my dev environment, but I want to know what it is.=E2= =80=8B On 10 January 2017 at 01:04, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > > Hi, >> Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a process is th= e >> root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can someone please >> help >> to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. >> >> #top >> 52 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie >> CPU: 3.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 95.9% idle >> Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free >> Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free >> >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >> COMMAND >> 25592 root 10 25 0 778M 9272K uwait 3 0:38 19.02% >> .swap >> 25599 root 1 20 0 7416K 2596K CPU0 0 0:00 0.11% >> top >> >> #ps -axd | grep swap >> 25481 0 S+ 0:00.00 | | `-- grep swap >> 22927 - Ss 172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap >> >> #uname -a >> FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu >> Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 >> root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> i386 >> > > That does not look good to me. A hidden file named ".swap" that is > *running*, and as root? I would immediately disconnect that machine from > the net and then check to see if that's a compromise, because it sure loo= ks > fishy. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 04:09:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FE9CA8E69 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0987146A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0A49p09007122 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:09:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0A49pZk007119; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:09:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:09:51 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bill Yuan cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:09:51 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:09:53 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > On 10 January 2017 at 01:04, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > > Hi, > Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a process is the > root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can someone please help > to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. > > #top > 52 processes:  1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU:  3.5% user,  0.0% nice,  0.6% system,  0.0% interrupt, 95.9% idle > Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free > Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free > >  PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE   C   TIME    WCPU > COMMAND > 25592 root            10  25    0   778M  9272K uwait   3   0:38  19.02% > .swap > 25599 root             1  20    0  7416K  2596K CPU0    0   0:00   0.11% top > > #ps -axd | grep swap > 25481  0  S+       0:00.00 | |   `-- grep swap > 22927  -  Ss     172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap > > #uname -a > FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu > Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 > root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > > > That does not look good to me.  A hidden file named ".swap" that is *running*, and as root?  I would immediately disconnect that machine from the net and then check to see if that's a compromise, because it sure looks fishy. > I​t is inside my dev environment, but I want to know what it is.​ It is not a standard file, let's start with that. Again, I would isolate it until I was very sure it was not a problem. Do you have some sort of blogging software or exploitable PHP web thing installed? Can this questionable file be killed without coming back? pkill .swap pgrep .swap What kind of file is it? file /tmp/.swap When was it put there? ls -lh /tmp/.swap From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 04:35:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6D5CA8FA0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB4D17D2 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 328C0CB8CB5; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:35:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.209.236.147 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:35:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50217.69.209.236.147.1484022926.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 22:35:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Warren Block" Cc: "Bill Yuan" , "FreeBSD Questions" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:35:33 -0000 On Mon, January 9, 2017 10:09 pm, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > >> On 10 January 2017 at 01:04, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a >> process is the >> root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can >> someone please help >> to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. >> >> #top >> 52 processes:  1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie >> CPU:  3.5% user,  0.0% nice,  0.6% system,  0.0% >> interrupt, 95.9% idle >> Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free >> Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free >> >>  PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES >> STATE   C   TIME    WCPU >> COMMAND >> 25592 root            10  25    0   778M  9272K >> uwait   3   0:38  19.02% >> .swap >> 25599 root             1  20    0  7416K  2596K >> CPU0    0   0:00   0.11% top >> >> #ps -axd | grep swap >> 25481  0  S+       0:00.00 | |   `-- grep swap >> 22927  -  Ss     172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap >> >> #uname -a >> FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 >> r306420: Thu >> Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 >> root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> i386 >> >> >> That does not look good to me.  A hidden file named ".swap" that >> is *running*, and as root?  I would immediately disconnect that >> machine from the net and then check to see if that's a compromise, >> because it sure looks fishy. > >> I​t is inside my dev environment, but I want to know what it is.​ > > It is not a standard file, let's start with that. Again, I would > isolate it until I was very sure it was not a problem. This sounds to me like compromised system as well. There are two indications of attempt to disguise it: name of the file and the fact that it is "invisible" file ( .xxxxx ) > > Do you have some sort of blogging software or exploitable PHP web thing > installed? This is another question: how the compromise happened. It quite like is the combination of exploitable service and local elevation of privileges, as daemons listening on external ports are usually run as non-privileged users, except for few like sshd (and sendmail in the past - don't know how it is now, use postfix for almost two decades). I really would at this point switch effort to forensics on the system, as Warren suggests, go shortly over few things that can disappear upon taking system off line (if "hacker" is careful one), then disconnect the box from the network, and investigate the rest off line. It is big work, good forensics can take weeks. There is no room to describe it on the list. Good luck! Valeri > > Can this questionable file be killed without coming back? > pkill .swap > pgrep .swap > > What kind of file is it? > file /tmp/.swap > > When was it put there? > ls -lh /tmp/.swap > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 04:38:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED77CA80CC for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22f.google.com (mail-ua0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A659F18FF for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bycn82@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 96so54523905uaq.3 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 20:38:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=qMz6LxTAEuDhNAPCwPJ3welWAcnWTQ6uDR4nkbXiFJs=; b=ljwd8Ewwp/g3NBQhkTlDpGPYDOW0AzyR42cOnSG/JeOKrEr4JbfIuOvJsky3Wo3WWl X++WDtv0IqajoDTvnZq9xi1dxYLFBHBAfuO04YoQ+bx4jt7eeZBpzP0JQIiXrNmzcWES UutctFdN2t9zhIc8Kr024tVhtUZB5F13hw+pn5zYk42YLOW3C++0ZBqOfWBA0iqWXktb NKLX7WLey0PCow6ehjWJWTXvMkfpE46paokajA7xtW931FSOKMz0D9Qy44iyb+GncKLZ Les4WBIKrSdfxDT5xbJhxvN6pl0icH1T8XpMGYCaDtmGofMCkpo7By3nHBt2bhEero7O +R8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qMz6LxTAEuDhNAPCwPJ3welWAcnWTQ6uDR4nkbXiFJs=; b=L+q4g2xvG/vHvBMKCnvi4TeyMckvWI2VasSwHjQ7kNkSD5j6pki7GXFVuKjgnJ6Xr5 IllehZrHQZEFcFLpC5PnR/qa1waEkNG1jYwLQuphaPTFxjVAn32Nf9S2KewSDMEowMn+ HjFPns8/kKwW4m5Hb9Anaez5F68kQdPPwU8mcdKttioxTiWPyhbSUobS2XacskhEmNRz c2GYQOXpsyQWu0ZCS5l5GoWusXkxhzOdBfWBz+0oROK6B38njwcWuFKSMzR5XPTx/yaz PWtLkCPXonvB2XlWiun9WhIYl8wJs4MMf81w080UP6tEravZeMUmebxyykeK5b1VPouN gt0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIixLyixPrVFbWgn25JPyAA6/c1qwqG2AQ+W2Uztt2go950Hd3VyQioNq6OV7VQc74IeLYsbW5dzHj4kw== X-Received: by 10.159.48.79 with SMTP id i15mr628692uab.13.1484023109799; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 20:38:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.94.132 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:38:29 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bycn82@dragonflybsd.org In-Reply-To: References: From: Bill Yuan Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:38:29 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy To: Warren Block Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:38:31 -0000 Confirmed, Someone hacked into my DEV environment, the password is too insecure :( Thanks. On 10 January 2017 at 12:09, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: > > On 10 January 2017 at 01:04, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Bill Yuan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Need support here. I just noticed my machine is busy and a >> process is the >> root cause, I am not familiar with the memory/SWAP, Can >> someone please help >> to take a look? any info is required? please let me know. >> >> #top >> 52 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie >> CPU: 3.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, >> 95.9% idle >> Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free >> Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free >> >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C >> TIME WCPU >> COMMAND >> 25592 root 10 25 0 778M 9272K uwait 3 >> 0:38 19.02% >> .swap >> 25599 root 1 20 0 7416K 2596K CPU0 0 >> 0:00 0.11% top >> >> #ps -axd | grep swap >> 25481 0 S+ 0:00.00 | | `-- grep swap >> 22927 - Ss 172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap >> >> #uname -a >> FreeBSD NetGate1 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 >> r306420: Thu >> Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 >> root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> i386 >> >> >> That does not look good to me. A hidden file named ".swap" that i= s >> *running*, and as root? I would immediately disconnect that machine fro= m >> the net and then check to see if that's a compromise, because it sure lo= oks >> fishy. >> > > I=E2=80=8Bt is inside my dev environment, but I want to know what it is.= =E2=80=8B >> > > It is not a standard file, let's start with that. Again, I would isolate > it until I was very sure it was not a problem. > > Do you have some sort of blogging software or exploitable PHP web thing > installed? > > Can this questionable file be killed without coming back? > pkill .swap > pgrep .swap > > What kind of file is it? > file /tmp/.swap > > When was it put there? > ls -lh /tmp/.swap From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 05:27:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9004CCA87C6 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC5F012F0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v0A5R1AV035928 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:27:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:27:01 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy (fwd) Message-ID: <20170110162559.Y2318@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:27:13 -0000 Der .. forgot to cc the list .. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:23:18 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bill Yuan Cc: Warren Block Subject: Re: /tmp/swap is causing my CPU busy Hi Bill, Warren. Excuse the lack of threading .. I won't get your messages till this evening so I'm manually quoting copied from the archive .. Firstly, what Warren said .. plus a few extra notes .. > #top The first line would have indicated uptime. Have you rebooted since? > 52 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU: 3.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 95.9% idle > Mem: 53M Active, 997M Inact, 133M Wired, 44M Buf, 791M Free > Swap: 2100M Total, 2100M Free Looks like 2GiB RAM and 4 CPUs, right? The zombie process may or may not be significant - what is it? > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 25592 root 10 25 0 778M 9272K uwait 3 0:38 19.02% .swap > 25599 root 1 20 0 7416K 2596K CPU0 0 0:00 0.11% top Note size of .swap here is 778M, most of the 997M inactive, but it's only 9MiB resident. Also it's consumed 38 seconds of CPU time and is 19% busy (on 1 CPU) so /4 ~= 4.75% of total (if 4 CPUs), matching 96% idle reasonably well - ie, apparently not much else is busy, going on the little you've shown. I couldn't find 'uwait' in top(1) or ps(1), but have seen it before. > #ps -axd | grep swap > 25481 0 S+ 0:00.00 | | `-- grep swap > 22927 - Ss 172:10.74 |-- /tmp/.swap Presumably this ps was earlier than that top .. note /tmp/.swap here had been running for 172 minutes! CPU time, with a lower PID than the one in top, so it's restarted itself, or you killed it or rebooted and it's come back? Also note that it has 10 threads. 'top -SHCP' will reveal more. I'm with Warren .. this looks nasty on the face of it. If you haven't already deleted it, I'd copy it to somewhere safe (a noexec mount? or a memstick perhaps) for later forensics, before you do. If not obvious where it came from, strings(1) may give you useful unique string/s that you can search the whole filesystem for with find(1), eg: 'find / -type f -exec grep SOME_STRING {} + -ls' HTH, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 06:21:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294FECA99E5 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from waltertaylor1399@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x243.google.com (mail-vk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9DAF137B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from waltertaylor1399@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 23so1968393vkc.2 for ; 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Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([120.29.76.161]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r68sm3898171pfk.85.2017.01.10.01.38.53 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:38:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5874ABC5.4050208@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:39:17 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: what is the command to show what services are listening on Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:38:55 -0000 Hello list; Haven't had the need to use it in a long time. Now that I need it I don't remember what its called. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 09:46:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC25CA6F9A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zakharov.vv@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x232.google.com (mail-lf0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67DD319C6 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zakharov.vv@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x232.google.com with SMTP id m78so90526276lfg.2 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:46:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=UXwV5oxcyLpMoA3KgfDGQc/b9nbVG9t+tDo9Tp8R42s=; b=GqCJ7vCU+UPtgc3kCHVHDM9P1wrApUYRqxwqOsD/Fp877TX4Xq54Me97vBSOgh7VU/ g0124Xr3z6b+FBXc0ZYPhMHrIzUDAN3sVF9al454g3irPZ/0xJGtGN2S3emVQPqQriq7 UETexknrmdCrZek0TjxwL2+IixTmyt8GS1KTxctI/k2rIfUI8QvPB4lfiNW2z/e4t3Eg Z8sOVbBMSHhjQcbZZVql+ky8UMgkAIhWYWDVY3+vOsJdHOgati9LXE38Fm0gasw5t7JO 1YRQQ0kg8fuMKvLhQaxwVmKqzKH26oG8zqVjwOrnwMCRw+Y+fop+eqzImWmgJl69Mh6m 5wVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=UXwV5oxcyLpMoA3KgfDGQc/b9nbVG9t+tDo9Tp8R42s=; b=fts85WVtDjRwx0C4taHRb52W4Ub/WbSLeL/3/QXyhCQKsM94kiGl/90k16UgRftBIH kenBwtzki/6Zf6JIHxAWVTKX6AOuUL93PhDQow1GytyJGd216eDswPtSJkwhO7U4UG/g HKA9HMCWXXohkoUfiZX3S5oXibfKoX5xpcbRDOijSCzFy09NDS+KA0Xh9qxMMVdXPGP9 sNIt1ZXNWGu5JqiIr4dR3ObFEGu+M8PwdHioVgJHrVKZsTdUTj71mNY2IA/s+1S6uCBC lz/oZJM/0qBSY+pRW+JZhNSfzv+SGh4pN2LAM53mJU5NcEiDOsyiVDw0ofqVO/Vniv9K aRAw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJljz9Y/D357Dzp4Uw3nFROBkjG4aAFhWKClXEmTE1jz2jo32HekSZ5wQ8xXkqBWw== X-Received: by 10.25.166.131 with SMTP id p125mr852705lfe.83.1484041576652; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([81.19.73.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s70sm341419lfi.0.2017.01.10.01.46.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:46:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:46:15 +0300 From: Vladimir Zakharov To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: what is the command to show what services are listening on Message-ID: <20170110094615.zf3ukdifil7jdtol@vzakharov> References: <5874ABC5.4050208@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5874ABC5.4050208@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT amd64 X-PGP-Key: http://vzakharov.ru/pubkey.asc User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161126 (1.7.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:46:19 -0000 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello list; > Haven't had the need to use it in a long time. Now that I need it I don't > remember what its called. > > Thanks sockstat(1)? -- Regards, | "In theory there is no difference between theory Vladimir Zakharov | and practice. In practice there is."- Yogi Berra From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 09:54:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96C4CA8391 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789391E34 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1484042079-0a7b8d175b89160001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan ([213.219.148.14]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id lQgMMyERhkvAd9vd (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:54:41 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien@perdition.city X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 213.219.148.14 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:54:39 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: what is the command to show what services are listening on Message-ID: <20170110095439.GN15696@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: what is the command to show what services are listening on References: <5874ABC5.4050208@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rKOZBEg9ux5nbisz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5874ABC5.4050208@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1484042079 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 720 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.4995 1.0000 0.0000 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.35672 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:54:51 -0000 --rKOZBEg9ux5nbisz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 05:39:17PM +0800, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello list; > Haven't had the need to use it in a long time. Now that I need it I=20 > don't remember what its called. sockstat ...? >=20 > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --rKOZBEg9ux5nbisz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE7vn2l0to0nV7EWolsrs3EKIEI8AFAlh0r1wACgkQsrs3EKIE I8BZRg/+JGNDjGcUu6F3QLZ3JNvzhmIZwKDoMiV0oNdnA6ftwOFVSooN0OQUhKtY x7b3CJddilHw7/+LMvc5se085zueYppEFUZ5b0QQAq0KOtn7xpNi8uEIP6RMHJLM yM9i2855kyThe6h9n/CwkeJf926uVGdSZp3UmNyR4y+/zoJ9gTXI02baytf2dRgt EYCgfxqkHvktFSa/e5cMkAV2NXOMN83GP093TjQbp7EnANiSJkDmVBj9aFG0u/jY c4gU807aJz6AUNeMcpWAB/44HmO3sBSdt5Bdx7bgu7TffK2XdzJUY1p6KgqECVrQ XM2zPW7ga30dQeuSCfXO5WMMgJBNSwpIB6qDAEVoSpLiL/GcbSwdephByltx796H 9cwYNuVA8ga7xCgD8Bggmj0nfi/aDVJOVRT82iGUtMmdab3gks4XioUA79iuhLN+ VGlYRadIFaI+P4uc0hYXkCEvJhI6oxicehXRF21CFuzl2wYLSXDRYzP1fXL4k6Ag TEp4kLy++HQYLoQWuetc042kXLLTPk2I8iD5xhyVXl26TQLkM3rBMxweKyfUhjyc m8Kmb4M+jSkVEn4MKWLihIZG1EfOO6xzDFGNVog6ogqfJUaGD6xDX9zKvcRfJaJu 9BJUS2avvqhc3psrJ96dAtOBYTgl9VgzzBHTBHWEnaIlDEpJn9s= =udOK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rKOZBEg9ux5nbisz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 10:29:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B19CA96A4 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) Received: from server.whoishostingthismail.com (server.whoishostingthismail.com [104.236.126.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75CCB1D26 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whoishostingthismail.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:From:To:Date:Sender:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=OnGEKv4hy6jDs/CpxrfNtbxfsTJCumqsOMYkvuYT0cw=; b=f7Yu5cK/aPyHeNLY2AmdvxZHt gEQuTSWeT+Q55j4B6AA6fvJq4OiTvLn+LHc+UmdrrHvF9aJXEIzUUPRA7HKN3AAdiwtU3rwyf4nXx eXd21Y2nHcAaTe/otarHFnTpMNXMkmg86pvxp4Yky43sFOQ25heE7GwVA9x9eDxvXpQWRRl86XM2y akxuUVFT/A3CrLeWp6hIUwzorj8ntk20J5RuWAlLCeuHJ10K9Y9DUJJujzzD69VuoiyZZjADIYEjo qR4WrClsKJSOGyrV09nBulz0mnqxqcIfcCi/NQcxfnw3+aQbgma41mCgCtzUDmJx/EvJwDA4+oBc8 IeFBFLNIA==; Received: from ec2-54-196-36-156.compute-1.amazonaws.com ([54.196.36.156]:41383 helo=whoishostingthismail.com) by server.whoishostingthismail.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cQtg9-00016r-JJ for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:29:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:29:21 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Delgado Reply-To: Mike Delgado Subject: Re: One of your pages has a broken link Message-ID: <5606734.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.whoishostingthismail.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - whoishostingthismail.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.whoishostingthismail.com: authenticated_id: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server.whoishostingthismail.com: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:29:28 -0000 Hi, I know you're busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day as I noticed the link is still broken. I've included my email below for ease of reference: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I was on your page - http://freebsd.mk.ua/ports/math.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. I found it whilst doing some research for our ultimate guide to NetCDF which has just been published and might make a good replacement if you are updating the page. Here's the link - http://wiht.link/NetCDF-resources. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Best, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 10:49:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4386ACA9EC5 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068401BC0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1786F200B1 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:40:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D13920111 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:40:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from scarecrow.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2A45201ED for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:40:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <5874BA2E.9090401@saunalahti.fi> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:40:46 +0200 From: Heikki Lindholm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; fi; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One of your pages has a broken link References: <5606734.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> In-Reply-To: <5606734.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:49:52 -0000 10.1.2017 12.29, Mike Delgado kirjoitti: > Hi, > > I know you're busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day as I noticed the link is still broken. I've included my email below for ease of reference: > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: > > Hi, > > I was on your page - http://freebsd.mk.ua/ports/math.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. The whole freebsd.mk.ua seems to be more than 10 years out-of-date. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 11:43:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34411CA93EF for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x241.google.com (mail-pf0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 073651E1C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x241.google.com with SMTP id 127so28678681pfg.0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:43:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0TjdmL9QxlfcWWD60BN9YIuyQIj5JTuhnYemrM/jmr4=; b=R/0Buu7jCqlbmkAJubE7mXHyhrd6A4LIZj7TMwI6tbw8ZkSaDAOiATMDdBZAYLpUe5 deVJu0rKZpKN5tBya3gg4/fx0bDB84u+jaQW+1yO8iNDHCIBAFvms+E3tVzTnzCR5qx1 650tckar6ELIhvxAM1ZYFFaleqs1VEbqHUMXaAdHybCw3Bo2qhosxu/SwrXPNPE80Qd5 XVrE9wUwQPlBlrVhZ5o+kMAhbn3VNmWWoHhnKUzgYIuIRY56RU2Ff14XT1AN8+veIguI 7VPovAMDBmgPNjRQFFPlbwEVWaezyUlYbqgbhdVfJm+BG0bAY0ctfNqI272tXLq8SZkl OIww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0TjdmL9QxlfcWWD60BN9YIuyQIj5JTuhnYemrM/jmr4=; b=ojXEYWtjSD/K6b8stXpl92EahpJv3WmBrh2V3fqa64OM+bXiGrI9Qyq8mkLQs3YZ2Y nuY4R42IoJARPLpD01MB5NdpgLMt0QvMa+AM3sEbHGLozd4xytvOTgQiECwicnvF0Nfh /KwHmMsjrx9t0drSgEcXeXcqk/aVlyEd0IUPmU+ihuCmv+W3PDwf9W2YdBeHcacBrxCZ 4Q0PjRMQQjD1aoUe+MEMSqwYOyqNJoIwIhsZh7eCsnifAWzUpV0l6MUIgUUEb+wjkVEg TZ/wiBVVWsHwaKNi8OvlkPIE2eAUaw1VNFMdk1tkXL5CQbPYWJys+GA/4qPQqb89FQL0 VxwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIcvLKGejbyyuC3wRMJZY1sbiNtrJZCnSSzleBtTkFiSWU7S8MwD1m6aRIoBO6EeQ== X-Received: by 10.99.116.80 with SMTP id e16mr3385135pgn.135.1484048605423; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([120.29.76.161]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm5124169pge.16.2017.01.10.03.43.24 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:43:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5874C8F9.5020103@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:43:53 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: /dev/bpf in a jail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:43:26 -0000 I trying to run tcpdump inside of a jail. Get following error message tcpdump: (cannot open device) /dev/bpf: No such file or directory Is it technical possible to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 11:45:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07FBCA95D7 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward1p.cmail.yandex.net (forward1p.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1465::11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF04A1033 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp2j.mail.yandex.net (smtp2j.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.60]) by forward1p.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BFFEE2101B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:45:29 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2j.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 54CE43EC1A3F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:30:06 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id u82jRS0Bfy-U5WSAPvP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:30:05 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Subject: Re: Edison tactic - 1.ifconfig wlan0 ssid myssid , work but some missed ,2.pkg install To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1483886536.3077593.840915257.60D1F4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170108165630.540acb46.freebsd@edvax.de> <941e4b56-0d6b-ee11-bf87-0a3b96ccd80a@passap.ru> <20170108190338.682794e7.freebsd@edvax.de> <8b8e732e-42cb-9337-02ad-25115a17edb8@citrin.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <4ef4f71b-d360-353c-9cdd-7db55143e9ec@passap.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:30:05 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8b8e732e-42cb-9337-02ad-25115a17edb8@citrin.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:45:43 -0000 10.01.2017 02:22, Anton Yuzhaninov пишет: > On 01/08/17 13:03, Polytropon wrote: >>> IWN(4) states that an iwn adapter uses a lodable firmware. >>> Is it actually loaded? >> Isn't that firmware already part of the GENERIC kernel? >> If not, "man iwn" has the relevant items that should be >> added to /boot/loader.conf (or "iwnfn" for all of the >> available firmwares). > > Firmware for iwn is build as module OK > and can be loaded from modeles path. > There is no need to add entries to loader.conf Please, show an example of configuration files (the relevant lines) to prove that. We are speaking about auto/boot/start, aren't we? Disclaimer: I have an iwm (not iwn) device, but I managed to invoke wireless networking only by loading firmware via /boot/loader.conf. > dmesg should contain strings like: > iwn0: iwn_read_firmware: ucode rev=0x12a80601 -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 11:51:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DE9CA984F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x229.google.com (mail-ua0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C057148A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 96so60553670uaq.3 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:51:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ROdGAstf57ZXhaa2Guz0y9Ly5Yrw1Tk1+dX5Dh4NPeM=; b=DzuqVCt5XTxwpOALCSM4Mt6K7RXzN7u1KZzzPmfYi4xnk1kx4Aq0ANtBc8h8QYLiY2 NeGdeVS0+Y445/vy0HurLv/8q5jCx+FPhPp0GkkWJlREzzHv4JlNQzi5nE/jsvdLKW4f u2HIetd2tznNBNDQ04bgTzYkwDDn5Cf4/fGdkWmSjz0jhE4z88RKffKNMeOnDeCan9OR IblbLwFb2LuOG9nK5DqjTuu6+NDPnA/wvtdvBy7+7uSaIMGlZlbhyFI4XIxC0b5Vt2JX PlmEh7y6wVkXg1qsGMMOogGfX2X+Uf6zQr+uxHWCTGes99MFFFwSgqXUrLXbAQGPQ77G kjJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ROdGAstf57ZXhaa2Guz0y9Ly5Yrw1Tk1+dX5Dh4NPeM=; b=rEyZQtY3EbYowuzimdmXDHE3RD6u+hy5JNnIeKh2MzbHtBTRK9tqmtPZFypCdy1TJZ v7hUlIIOyw58f57buZm5bO2r8aqx3UmNg/KtgtydrXQ4G6Zdn/lZdeEQVYZ/iFultqM/ B05aIn2IYhTXJ2qBTpLigtRBsG8bf7mrM8+PcY4Smy/Kp87DsAYh1M3/vc/HFZ8yxAFv a4ur+hRUqzE+We9VftNbZt/L2jUYixUfcLRR8Ugtjq+HnQdKQZ60DU+UA/VenM+Dg+39 G70lZPxJssc0gCre3DnqkevIwvj4P38Ouo3k8IQu6y5Ken+M7Lu0qsjFk+iyX9iUCg2O vHgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJHNEekjlne3BTymaWdkN7JNvNhWViTqKv55CM6cSPY5jD/DcGCruqif9aQfNHCwS+In/EpvVuydRXyBQ== X-Received: by 10.176.91.72 with SMTP id v8mr1361407uae.23.1484049069559; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:51:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.86.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.86.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:51:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <58742F6C.8050801@gmail.com> References: <58742F6C.8050801@gmail.com> From: Pavel Timofeev Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:51:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to allow mlock(2) in jail? To: Ernie Luzar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:51:10 -0000 10 =D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B2. 2017 =D0=B3. 3:48 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0= =BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Ernie Luzar" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: Pavel Timofeev wrote: > Hello! > I'm trying to deploy security/vault in freebsd jail. > Usually this tool locks some memory for security reason. > > I can run vault on my bare system without any problems. But in jail it > complains mlock(2) is not available. > So my question is how to allow mlock(2) in jail? > > P. S. I know, I can disable mlock(2) use in vault config as workaround. > > A jail has no kernel so no memory to lock. Thank you for the reply! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 12:14:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AD3CA89D1 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 481C81585 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E940E20987 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:14:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:14:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=i5uxGu1g6Qf9td8x/bIcB1dQkew=; b=nd9mkdxNhMCPG3pSJZJ1K HgBn98+Uclk/q+hBDrhybQtSFNbVKzgnLbTD+A8Q/+0FPoKJHkXpmnj94jTxElhD 1j3DK+zcae/VOGkizkilMMJznpGT9lxGLUtz+LD9VgGmnFw8C3SC1MesbdlcMppO Kgf5r9ItDmo1xwjrD+oZWQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=i5uxGu1g6Qf9td8x/bIcB1dQk ew=; b=Leycf9ofvk9NwXusxXjeFCmNL9+cqcBKdLk1uXmD+XWNKw+bc+NzrOPi1 A0kW05LVRhvLFVPkJHsq8ekUehdBxOOke8pux3uO3WHklXHStaBfRqXzxn0sznYK qxY6UXKP89kNI5sVrcjn58cmKza1rsJ3FoIXUMBdmF269E7H0c= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id C89B76ABF3; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1484050483.3581104.842980993.3CF18E82@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1484050451.3581085.842975417.06F2DCB0@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: Fwd: iwconfig format , if free bsd have not , author is false person for freebsd -only mobile application 16 hours per dday Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:14:43 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:14:52 -0000 iwconfig format ,if freebsd have not equal ,author is false person for freebsd -only mobile application 16 hours per day ###########################################################################= ################## Solaris 11.3 do not have ,possible version 10 have or ? relevant comment would appreciated watch -n1 iwconfig=20=20=20=20 annd in x11 can see with 1 sek interval time signal level 18.01.01 -56 dbm 18.01.02 -58 dbm=20 level ist tested 2 month 14 -16 hours per day in Centr of university complex of Hamburg can be level -52 dbm -90 dbm=20 by -84 dbm browser do not work ... that is good correlated=20 ###################################################### with limit -174 dbm for 1 hz bandwitch=20 GPS reseiver sensivity in tracking mode bandwitch 1-2 hz --160 dbm but wlan 40 mbit -approx 40 mhz =3D 40*10=E2=81=B6/ 1 ... 76 db=20 -160 dbm+76 db for 40 mhz bw =3D -84 dbm for 40 mbit/sec=20 http://www.susegeek.com/wireless/iwconfig-wireless-interface-configuration-= utility-in-linux/ opensuse11:~ # iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg ESSID:=E2=80=9Dxxxxxxxx=E2=80=9D Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:11:22:33:44:55 Bit Rate=3D54 Mb/s Tx-Power=3D15 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=3D2352 B Encryption key:xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx= xx-xxxx-xxxx [2] Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality=3D96/100 Signal level:-32 dBm Noise level=3D-69 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Alternatively, you can run the command with an interface name like the following: opensuse11:~ # iwconfig wlan0 wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg ESSID:=E2=80=9Dxxxxxxxx=E2=80=9D Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:11:22:33:44:55 Bit Rate=3D54 Mb/s Tx-Power=3D15 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=3D2352 B Encryption key:xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx= xx-xxxx-xxxx [2] Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality=3D96/100 Signal level:-32 dBm Noise level=3D-69 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 12:21:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F115CCA63F3 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g-22276245252-22357-2200631121-1484050898218@bounce.marketing.aldubailuxury.com) Received: from sxocto.nu.ecm-cluster.com (sxocto.nu.ecm-cluster.com [91.192.42.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782941CE9 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g-22276245252-22357-2200631121-1484050898218@bounce.marketing.aldubailuxury.com) Received: from app56.muc.ec-messenger.com (app56.muc.domeus.com [172.16.9.36]) by mta05.muc.domeus.com (READY) with ESMTP id 365E630023362 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:21:38 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marketing.aldubailuxury.com; s=ecm1; t=1484050898; bh=N2xtVjsTDI+tMYJSoJfhm4Mbe0ba5zYRtPLtoC+3790=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Help:X-CSA-Complaints; b=WEaMXRwyIJ66tmP2y9wISD1xZa6NnAlmtQGLmAQfxF7kJ6s7NNBcerWrqpWnK3Dyj cKC6zfjBnc6y77wClOOdztGG2RQBZVbZgFlODW5S0DYgKx1RHPxl/DWZohcLtZJgX2 H/pIvx1KEWvWJNvl09vD5aaW6nbdrEO7u77JeOcY= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:21:38 +0100 (CET) From: Al Dubai Luxury Reply-To: Admin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Tennant=E2=80=99s_new_summer_hit_=E2=80=93_EIS_investment?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eC-messenger-mid: 2200631121 X-eC-messenger-cid: 22357 X-eC-messenger-token: 10e75u9Ia8ep8uc X-eC-messenger-sender-domain: bounce.marketing.aldubailuxury.com X-eC-messenger-sendouttypeid: 0 X-eC-messenger-addresseeroleid: 1 X-eC-messenger-recipienttypeid: 2 X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complaints@eco.de X-Mailer: eC-Messenger Build 6.90.2763.9 X-eC-messenger-email: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:21:41 -0000 To unsubscribe from this newsletter, click here: http://marketing.aldubailu= xury.com/public/unsubscribe.jsp?gid=3D2200100691&uid=3D22276245252&mid=3D22= 00631121&sig=3DDGMICMKOANPOJAJG&l=3DD0I10e75u9Ia8ep8ucI&slt=3D4. 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If that is correct,than author false person in unix world no demand for data management -no any 1 kb of data in 256 gb HD no network administration -single user but 16 hours per day wireless application wlan and possbly umts as reserve for wlan ############################################################ Problem of author - Desktop environment (Gnome,KDE & icon )in linux os must be forced out only demand for composite "standart " window manager -compiz or ? it was not simple by ubuntu 16.04 64 bit (force gnome ,unity &) but can try another ... or old solaris 10 have iwconfig ? relevant comment would appreciated -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:06:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B13CCA862A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) Received: from relay-b02.edpnet.be (relay-b02.edpnet.be [212.71.1.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0A64107C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1484057186-0a7b8d175dbecc0001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan ([213.219.148.14]) by relay-b02.edpnet.be with ESMTP id N7cXAFgrAl4Dvjmx (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:06:28 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien@perdition.city X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 213.219.148.14 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:06:26 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Inventory and Monitoring Commands for Linux, Solaris and AIX Message-ID: <20170110140626.GO15696@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Fwd: Inventory and Monitoring Commands for Linux, Solaris and AIX References: <1484056483.527323.843074345.3B3F745F@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8so8ZvRz607RvwFp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1484056483.527323.843074345.3B3F745F@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[213.219.148.14] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1484057186 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.222:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1934 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5000 1.0000 0.0100 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.01 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.01 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.35675 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:06:34 -0000 --8so8ZvRz607RvwFp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 02:54:43PM +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Inventory and Monitoring Commands for Linux, Solaris and AIX >=20 > https://www.netiq.com/documentation/ps_recon37/recon_user/data/bipfhdm.ht= ml >=20 > If author understand correctly and list above ist correct=20 >=20 > exist no command in UNIX ,which is related only to wireless as=20 > folloving commando in Linux=20 > ################################################################ >=20 > iwconfig,iwlist=20 >=20 >=20 > Correct ?=20 man ifconfig /wireless >=20 > If that is correct,than author false person in unix world=20 >=20 > no demand for data management -no any 1 kb of data in 256 gb HD=20 > no network administration -single user=20 >=20 >=20 > but 16 hours per day wireless application wlan and possbly umts as > reserve for wlan > ############################################################ >=20 >=20 > Problem of author - Desktop environment (Gnome,KDE & icon )in > linux os must be forced out=20 >=20 > only demand for composite "standart " window manager -compiz or ? 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Or that is too aggressive, so I need to do 9.3 -> 10.3, then 10.3 -> 11.0?? I guess there is so much danger lurking in 9.3-STABLE -> 11.0-STABLE using source upgrade, but not 9.3-RELEASE -> 11.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update. The former method is prone to failure while the freebsd-update method is not. Why so? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:16:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43680CA8BDC for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-vk0-x233.google.com (mail-vk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 006F31774 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-vk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id 137so360373054vkl.0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:16:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mxRN0HbNu7KWUjSaqqGsnEX7QpiDlZ1Xqfi0Y8Irffc=; b=PD7NyemwTqFyg6apYNkUdiksJefqTLUdzDuvDjDa9aFe/EqluI9eBpzBUIqa7W0KyE HJcBmwLNZ30OpnuW0nKavkas6vXCTesmp8loViw0hganHxBG4T/kJ/YGOT/cDcvNF0tY euEjbYNmb3p5AXe6f+m+OmRTLEL7LRe8UF8TZPqPgc3OO/tRT+Svmph3LFRA5sHo9cKF iGWaahYpZYDJeH3x0Q2Ap62x603E+bczRrTgkqSg1zpu26H3AFU0oj+W/kVWFNFBdoyz hG3ypohkhSL6sOlaEJbh8LfjCL8LkGVEMvsfBN6Kxy9/G7jJB82KolqiwlQEnyiJcxp5 at5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mxRN0HbNu7KWUjSaqqGsnEX7QpiDlZ1Xqfi0Y8Irffc=; b=VhujxS8aME/Bf8YUKQX2fBsIAyau3SMitpsZVFwYMBzSudq4PzaLkg2ggIQNBNZ0Y6 B+6+BrdIgzH2GyuelyPcajjzLyQqLvWWKb/UMsEAdyTTuYjuDyW6xgHK58xOdym15Y0M P0ocriVWKhXkivPOtHBzR1o2fzXhRBkDmkfzg6iY3ySD4AGxzUK527fA0/VSOMufdQd+ HMqZvIKNMq7C+CNeK5Z6g0TTUfCZb1Lx+F8qYHFZzQ0OiKOyx9rv+xXJMk8d3bnDkMNC qUIXWsiX/g7yWEZCugNO0Ik84+Zcehku6z4Mt9pL0x8CZykM4DKVmSWisE0gd/XNGYDi HSCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLydAbnQnjelmS1QY1f7Itz2Vt5qUO8cxrrDhmpz61znt6dJKasOvtWBXQMdfu/rIxOZsb1V524JF4YTg== X-Received: by 10.31.205.129 with SMTP id d123mr1537450vkg.166.1484057806803; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:16:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [IPFW] stateful session timeout To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:16:48 -0000 Hello list, My initial post on the forums [1] having garnered a grand total of 0 replies, I'm taking the liberty of asking anew in here. We currently use PF on 8-STABLE and 10-STABLE boxes. I'm playing around a bit with ipfw and have not found a way to replicate PF's *per-rule* custom session lifetimes. Anyone's got anything on the subject ? ;) Cheers [1] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/59053/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:21:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9BBCA8E7F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0E519DC for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E555903; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=b6KIrxDm05dEgqXegVX7nSud2WE=; b= XW01tHlx3SkCfU7HzFEZawWnWxxnQys724TZP3llns9oG74oP0q73BHR27urxhql CBrYew+SovS0FHTjmuy2JeoPTf7UfvFpfMgBcFzEQPPnIgxqzZy6EQK58y7lMfaD IscTEN63YznFtLT/yyffFnzld2F9V8Mbic8L5TWdhZw= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [124.149.143.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E5655839; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C0B2B333; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:21:43 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:21:43 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Upgrade Questions Message-ID: <20170110142143.rtcbhcgfvewqmxij@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161126 (1.7.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:21:55 -0000 On Tue 2017-01-10 17:06:11 UTC+0300, Odhiambo Washington (odhiambo@gmail.com) wrote: > Can I update FreeBSD 9.3 -> 11.0 using source update?? Or that is too > aggressive, so I need to do 9.3 -> 10.3, then 10.3 -> 11.0?? I suspect the GCC toolchain on 9.x may be too old to build 11.0 from source. FreeBSD 11.x moved to Clang for the base C compiler, removing GCC, so it's possible 11.x requires a recent-ish version of Clang to build, among other things. > I guess there is so much danger lurking in 9.3-STABLE -> 11.0-STABLE using > source upgrade, but not 9.3-RELEASE -> 11.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update. Well "danger" is overstating it. The build will either succeed or not. If not, your system is still usable, and nothing is lost. If you're apprehensive you could install 9.3-STABLE in a temporary virtual machine (or a spare PC) and experiment with upgrading that. > The former method is prone to failure while the freebsd-update method is > not. Why so? The former method shouldn't be "prone to failure" if you upgrade to 10.x in the interim. freebsd-update doesn't support upgrading from -STABLE versions, so you can't use it in this instance. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:24:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E860CA8FD1 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx1.mailbox.org (mx1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 485B11C6B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C08B43E35 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:24:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by spamfilter02.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter02.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.116]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id I-ROi4jscOKS for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:24:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:24:16 +0100 Message-ID: <86o9zft2lr.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /dev/bpf in a jail In-Reply-To: <5874C8F9.5020103@gmail.com> References: <5874C8F9.5020103@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:24:28 -0000 Ernie Luzar skrev: > > I trying to run tcpdump inside of a jail. > Get following error message > tcpdump: (cannot open device) /dev/bpf: No such file or directory > > Is it technical possible to do this? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jail+bpf Second link: Solved - tcpdump not working in jails | The FreeBSD Forums https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/49380/ Read the full thread! Hint: security -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:26:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1068CA90D7 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ua0-x231.google.com (mail-ua0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADAF41D89 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-ua0-x231.google.com with SMTP id i68so383737927uad.0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=g9J48pPSAmYrDtdpv8LaJBuEUO50wjuJx3wRSHJOYMs=; b=i2NDeI+Rx3CzjWTNfWIvFnwCfWOUJd1O2ltdqj46BTLWMg39Aw2XvcXjAeOqFxYYaS loBk8KdCstevAJO2ONZdSF+Au3oQKjIavCuDMiRphTG6jrQxN2nRAeM2A7iOWi+YmKeS RRNGIPEhh18frmz32+xod5QXVBoEj6QyCIW/DUNQDazsIgIB7clcuQdQpH7jG4+Lmzqo jpTz8fzFg1oKBR6w8gFn2sRW2GclnLUXZpShmTHuhDAS/P5qFN6Kjxq1QNFssoZlZwdk 7djl89eZYbJ9GPR+ERnHG4Lt2esghtiJrXUvaWjZMfndBwSyU6jj23ielyq2kqsDt8GY hvWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=g9J48pPSAmYrDtdpv8LaJBuEUO50wjuJx3wRSHJOYMs=; b=sMf3WayJg3YAN6Oz9yZCLndSK13QCml/+ylQSCobVo637hhD6xexFNsEGHYiDIrkCV QxEDPnyeg7tOoC8HKs6ynfYoHWcdqVhpmFqfpS0xOs3JB4NC6Z0yxXmqxuWVabcEG3sq rZ0ZcLk9vuBD9fFfWycA9Zn12XcAfFYEUv57hkRDnso0CMaTOiIvXb3DiXWDDWCLv8eh QsHynufvHrH6/ySza7gliWN4Qw3YAFMShz4urDuuHUqGSMM/aLtc4i96jSA2vftRuBSh tbvHh/TzMVdnOo9K6/XjfmHbC6sWoc7bW2aEdwndkkp2xkwC2V1kYClfbltm9jW40wQe 7UHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIcvPHbPoONwNi5rybxEM5fTv9qIjlEeQeZWMh7h616xmlqEa/ronDFH8JyTxP9dBwXdl3cbUlcmlXg9A== X-Received: by 10.159.48.85 with SMTP id i21mr1430152uab.73.1484058413748; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:53 -0800 (PST) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:26:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:26:55 -0000 Hello list, Is there any place that lists orphaned ports, as in ports lacking an actual maintainer ? Being a sysadmin and not a dev, I'm looking for a (very) entry level port, something which doesn't require deep programming knowledge. Cheers -- dfl From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:45:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A6FCA9F12 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anastasios@mageirias.com) Received: from iserver.iopen.gr (iserver.iopen.gr [144.76.108.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DE041F13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anastasios@mageirias.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by iserver.iopen.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDC731001F4 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:37:33 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iserver.iopen.gr Received: from iserver.iopen.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iserver.iopen.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 777qAunyPWzh for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:37:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (athedsl-226935.home.otenet.gr [85.74.206.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: anastasios@mageirias.com) by iserver.iopen.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3FEF431001EE for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:37:33 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Anastasios Mageirias Message-ID: <440827ae-5467-72cd-c49d-6cc7bd80f835@mageirias.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:36:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:45:08 -0000 You can find here everything that you need. https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/36243/ On 01/10/2017 09:26 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Hello list, > > > > Is there any place that lists orphaned ports, as in ports lacking an actual > maintainer ? > > Being a sysadmin and not a dev, I'm looking for a (very) entry level port, > something which doesn't require deep programming knowledge. > > > > Cheers > > -- > dfl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:50:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61DACA9057 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 783FB1092 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22C4C921D for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/22C4C921D; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Upgrade Questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <98d41a8e-492b-c5e3-f531-a376a58ece3b@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2Fa2GO44tx0txPBDT9lp6ku7rb7g8ekkw" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2Fa2GO44tx0txPBDT9lp6ku7rb7g8ekkw Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Mq4M0Fb3iEC7cMmXu0iCmeN3LOBq2n0gS"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <98d41a8e-492b-c5e3-f531-a376a58ece3b@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Upgrade Questions References: In-Reply-To: --Mq4M0Fb3iEC7cMmXu0iCmeN3LOBq2n0gS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017/01/10 14:06, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Can I update FreeBSD 9.3 -> 11.0 using source update?? Or that is too > aggressive, so I need to do 9.3 -> 10.3, then 10.3 -> 11.0?? You will need an intermediate step via 10.3 -- there is a problem compiling 11.0 on earlier than 10.3 release. This is quite an unusual circumstance -- although the requirement is that you should be able to upgrade to (X+1).0 from the last X.Y, most of the time in the past you could upgrade from pretty much any FreeBSD to the latest. > I guess there is so much danger lurking in 9.3-STABLE -> 11.0-STABLE us= ing > source upgrade, but not 9.3-RELEASE -> 11.0-RELEASE using freebsd-updat= e. Even if you use freebsd-update, you will need to go via an intermediate 10.3-RELEASE step. However, this is for different reasons -- there were changes to freebsd-update itself, which are in 10.3 and are needed to get to 11.0. Cheers, Matthew --Mq4M0Fb3iEC7cMmXu0iCmeN3LOBq2n0gS-- --2Fa2GO44tx0txPBDT9lp6ku7rb7g8ekkw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYdPSkXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTny0MP/R5i1w8x5EiAdncw/mOhQP3r u/Sp/rU8u/hJTYEM0AjJx25/2uFNWsjckpbYr22RGAPB+dQKJY3yHa+TCMQAZEKa fJRyOrGXXY2M059TPWqqU9U0asGZdBbRYmRlmqK2l7n/XRunqIQfW8Y5v8r+55GI Sfi4IEBBn2SSpUfQGQ4/fDbPz+gN1KAGvYVrrbeb5qUDa0bQ46bF/OLB3aizZuYq w1VY6NMlQkB2r3AU2jgmShRrbSs9qwTIznp6BScDTAUmF0xMU4Zwc3KxJ3qE/G9+ AIMA1P8UBVv7mwvCHtNKQ5UKlklYa1fnTS3sX05w30xlAGc4XPkv6JIyXbkehYq2 uY7hpph9/RAtBYIqXWRKS0oty4v0M6zMwGK31LWoySQ17PvyyV85ei+h24ZuW2kk t0mR8jzK0S4GoRVVXTYlW8yCajGQmcavai+u1W7sIpCkHMN4CuIpKtw+zK03UHdz KRGBOK8plZMtbtwQ70Fg1FbjUWfJKQEEUEvwOUEKFNdsrQ/kiVsYXF2AU33KOJvv sYrLS/AysW1TVUGAtRnYAQ3CsEml8WqDTbaUUmcpLsoibyXAQjoJzIwhD1y60BxN /iUWl0xb2BcK6tGuq1zG3tfCBTCVllYV3VV2pdiiuad/DfRZwFC+BzroeZUzfAyD sKLGI/3AlUyZHO0ZwoLN =dFaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2Fa2GO44tx0txPBDT9lp6ku7rb7g8ekkw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 14:57:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B726CA92C6 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C60E615F7 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:57:32 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DE6E3CC3F; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:57:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0AEvJoO002104; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:57:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:57:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: iwconfig format , if free bsd have not , author is false person for freebsd -only mobile application 16 hours per dday Message-Id: <20170110155719.9664865e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1484050483.3581104.842980993.3CF18E82@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1484050483.3581104.842980993.3CF18E82@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 14FC9683443 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2553 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:57:26 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:14:43 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > iwconfig format ,if freebsd have not equal ,author is false person for > freebsd -only mobile application 16 hours per day If it works on Linux, it'll probably work on FreeBSD. It's not a matter of the "false" person, but of the person's knowledge and engagement to get the configuration right. On Linux, there are scripts provided by the maintainers of the network which do... something. If you're okay with running arbitrary software on your computer, then, well, it's easier for sure. But is it more secure? And in case of problems, easier to debug? FreeBSD doesn't have different tools for each kind of network. The "ifconfig" program (see "man ifconfig", entries related to "wireless") is used to control the WLAN card. Heavily simplified, imagine it like this: Y | NIC ---> hardware | iwn ---> driver | ifconfig ---> control the interface *1* | wpa_supplicant ---> make the connection *2* | dhclient ---> get the IP via DHCP | user programs ---> do things on the Internet Points *1* and *2* require custom configuration, such as proper mode settings, access credentials etc. If you fail to provide them, the whole "stack" won't work. Do not expect the impossible. > Solaris 11.3 do not have ,possible version 10 have or ? Solaris isn't supported - you said "Linux only". And honestly, Solaris is harder to use than FreeBSD. :-) > relevant comment would appreciated > > watch -n1 iwconfig > annd in x11 can see with 1 sek interval > time signal level > 18.01.01 -56 dbm > 18.01.02 -58 dbm > > level ist tested 2 month 14 -16 hours per day in Centr of university > complex of Hamburg > can be level -52 dbm -90 dbm > by -84 dbm browser do not work ... that is good correlated It's good when you know about the signal strength and which levels are required for operation. That information can also be found in "ifconfig" output. > with limit -174 dbm for 1 hz bandwitch 1 Hz? One (whole) Hertz? I doubt that's true... :-) On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:54:43 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Inventory and Monitoring Commands for Linux, Solaris and AIX > > https://www.netiq.com/documentation/ps_recon37/recon_user/data/bipfhdm.html > > If author understand correctly and list above ist correct > > exist no command in UNIX ,which is related only to wireless as > folloving commando in Linux Correct. Such a "the one command" does not exist. It simply isn't _needed_ because UNIX in general tries to implement the concept "create one program that performs one task, perform only _that_ task, and perform it well; make it able to connect to other programs" - and that's exactly how the net- working "stack" (mentioned above) works on FreeBSD. > If that is correct,than author false person in unix world You seem to have basic UNIX skills, so why waste them? Of course there is a learning curve, and you need to get the basics (!) right. > no demand for data management -no any 1 kb of data in 256 gb HD > no network administration -single user A simple X installation, a simple window manager, a web browser, maybe other tools - exactly what FreeBSD can provide you as soon as you got your network configured correctly. > but 16 hours per day wireless application wlan and possbly umts as > reserve for wlan Get your WLAN working, and it's possible. > Problem of author - Desktop environment (Gnome,KDE & icon )in > linux os must be forced out That is not possible. Linux operations heavily rely on those tools, and most distributions concentrate around a specific desktop environment. Of course there are distributions that allow you the freedom of choice like FreeBSD does, but they _might_ be too complicated for you at the moment. > only demand for composite "standart " window manager -compiz or ? That is possible, and the pointers on how to achieve this have been provided several times. There is a whole section in the handbook designed to help you. > it was not simple by ubuntu 16.04 64 bit (force gnome ,unity &) but > can try another ... Of course you can try different Linux distributions, and it's so much easier because you can try them from a USB stick or a CD / DVD _withouth_ needing to install them. Go ahead! > or old solaris 10 have iwconfig ? No. And _old_ software should be avoided anyway, even if it's Solaris. And... doesn't Solaris use Gnome, too? I mean, _after_ CDE... ;-) PS. Don't forward ("Fwd:") to the list, _send_ to the list. The list will "forward" messages to all subscribers automatically. You don't need to do the list's work. :-) The list's address belongs in the To: or Cc: field. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=YX qgJFpubWMPIEMX1jXhDp5wb5Q=; b=olRTTD/6e596gz4SaAfc76k1c5e1qBeJj6 5lzxen4sbDLgxgWFL+kr1kxCvl2mHSDlK7yYXGgQ+D7LJxBuZ29WTnGqRaS3rxXv GmAQTlbHz6pgxqewPOqoiq/v4kTPIIw4ymoyBel6CKVQy08FWwP/C/PhzTHUkKxm S6BAwEXjI= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6D9A248002; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:44:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1484066695.568939.843273841.33313BCA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Subject: Re: Fwd: iwconfig format , if free bsd have not , author is false person for freebsd -only mobile application 16 hours per dday In-Reply-To: <20170110155719.9664865e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1484050483.3581104.842980993.3CF18E82@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110155719.9664865e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:44:55 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:44:57 -0000 Polytropon > > with limit -174 dbm for 1 hz bandwitch=20 >=20 > 1 Hz? One (whole) Hertz? I doubt that's true... :-) #################################################### More practical if normalized to 1mW in a 50=CE=A9system =E2=80=A2Np (dBm/Hz) =3D 10log(4.004e-21/.001W) =3D -174 dBm/Hz =E2=80=A2Using this equation we can now relate the Np to a 50 =CE=A9test sy= stem at 1 mW =E2=80=A2This is common standard for communication test equipment =E2=80=A2Therefore: -174 dBm/Hz is the output power of a 50 =CE=A9resistor = at the average temperature of the earth in a 1 Hz bandwidth Sorry Gentlemen=20 Need not your opinion to this question check publication of Draper Laboratory=20 http://www.draper.com/solution/gps-modernization --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 17:04:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168CCA9832 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from mail.robroygregg.com (173-13-147-189-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.147.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A8AA1C42 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from beak.h.net (beak.h.net [192.168.32.10]) by mail.robroygregg.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 447e3629; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:04:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: Robroy Gregg X-X-Sender: robroy@beak.h.net To: Ernie Luzar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /dev/bpf in a jail In-Reply-To: <5874C8F9.5020103@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <5874C8F9.5020103@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:14 -0000 Good day Ernie, On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: > I trying to run tcpdump inside of a jail. > Get following error message > tcpdump: (cannot open device) /dev/bpf: No such file or directory > > Is it technical possible to do this? Yeah, I have tcpdump working in a jail on 10.3-RELEASE, named "beak." Here's the jail.conf for it: exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.clean; mount.devfs; host.hostname = $name; path = /j/$name; interface = igb0; beak { allow.raw_sockets; devfs_ruleset = 7; enforce_statfs = 1; ip4.addr = 192.168.32.10; } And here's the /etc/devfs.conf for it: [devfsrules_jail_bpf=7] add include $devfsrules_hide_all add include $devfsrules_unhide_basic add include $devfsrules_unhide_login add path 'bpf*' unhide Wellbeing to you, Ernie. Robroy From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 19:11:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6CACA994D for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E646151A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3B20A82; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:11:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=QKqmVX9GysWLd1JvcdOFapmg1M M=; b=bmH6pLKIgks4EFs8mu4YCuq4bF88QjZIoHPkRNeh03DOvLbRt5oIFCxmkm JtuSHUIHVOYZFXG7w0rOgxnsJsK+L9c36Mf3FKQPNTmRse9gwIrT9JnYciFrZk/d MXRLVZ7/mQb4bAsVUvv32dnDG+zCZypAKJC9Q/OQshOlzUAS0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=QK qmVX9GysWLd1JvcdOFapmg1MM=; b=XKwx3p8q8WxdZRy4QrEkiMpvvbnr8AW/Sg tCysoNbA2ugdsyKAohrBiERyTh7XXr/AEdIqhcPmqRCLc9MqXW1lpx2lGEMWR9JY EMXpLckvjchpQjgclCYoFvOrQNWnp81rfbrQPnQSSiGmcjGf8SWvucUhs0EE88gC AmG6jie2c= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 46B2F6ABF3; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:11:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Jochen Neumeister , Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 In-Reply-To: <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103160657.GB43153@neutralgood.org> <20170103203023.b2396c95.freebsd@edvax.de> <861swjx6mv.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> <1483475176.874533.836320369.7B612577@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:11:48 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:11:49 -0000 Dear Sir You have a right Author was false with ideja to use freebsd and solaris on he's notebook It is not suited Please delete the thread ###################### Excuse the author .... wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpmOTGungnA -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 05:18 PM, Jochen Neumeister wrote: > Pls, stop this spam!!! > > thx -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 19:35:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92E0CAA4CF for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29BC819F0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:38:11 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FA583CC3F; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:35:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0AJZMuY004130; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:35:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:35:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 Message-Id: <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103160657.GB43153@neutralgood.org> <20170103203023.b2396c95.freebsd@edvax.de> <861swjx6mv.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> <1483475176.874533.836320369.7B612577@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 979AD6A3562 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2405 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:35:39 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:11:48 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Dear Sir > > You have a right > Author was false with ideja to use freebsd and solaris on he's > notebook You'll probably have better experience with Linux, at you current level of knowledge and understanding. That's nothing bad (and not meant as an insult). You might consider using a different distribution which is more to your liking (no Gnome, no convoluted desktop, no autorestarting Tor etc.), which you can install on the FreeBSD partition (after you've freed that disk space). You will find a good distribution for sure. And Linux is still a place where you can learn valuable skills in using a computer. > It is not suited It's definitely _not_ the fault of the operating system. By reviewing the many messages, their form and their content, this can be taken as granted. > Please delete the thread This is not possible, and I already mentioned the reasons in a previous message. Even better: It will stay on the Internet forever. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 19:54:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A9DCA90FA for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8EEC1B7C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748F620A8F; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:54:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=9C91B1FLQzkUtgplXXxf3frFLJ I=; b=XAyK07ojTztgjqCFz3hmLl4XlBNYjhUOZO6D3PiJFAMSse3fSOCmcjluGs AMAVJkvGLSGUbpWdGbiFp2fcuilAlfaIAXY+uxltQ2/ms84UyDDWo/OVC+5Stb85 nX4JhvXLl5zuPQlrqbvW149/v6SjClQFh63wt0GsuOxbwBnfM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=9C 91B1FLQzkUtgplXXxf3frFLJI=; b=sburTtxgS4QVgWfgsDNmSTlhs7oFwQPOyJ kk5s0obl7jIwDCca4h33NijHHBuO/IRWlgI7EqVMUHKsyu3ULQet2UQsPxXuKBUM ecFFnMP4SGf5GmY6MXBCjdUCNPaKgjDp3Veo750jjB0QIInBhFOyS8SKgwldCVl5 IncuG0j1A= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 518156ABF3; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:54:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-34b48c55 Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103160657.GB43153@neutralgood.org> <20170103203023.b2396c95.freebsd@edvax.de> <861swjx6mv.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> <1483475176.874533.836320369.7B612577@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:54:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:54:13 -0000 Gentlemen Discussion is ended .Author have not any demand for freebsd and solaris They are both not adressed mobile communication 16 hours per day They both have not dedicated command for Wireless Communication as iwconfig ,only subset in ifconfig They both adressed sysadmin with 100 users SAP ,Oracle ,100 TB ,which used wlan 3% And not planned to have any understanding of both -Solaris and Freebsd No any relation to software industry ------------------------------------------------------- Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmOcEhobSdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek5BslaS7DM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Spe_r_c6y8 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 08:35 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:11:48 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > Dear Sir > > > > You have a right > > Author was false with ideja to use freebsd and solaris on he's > > notebook > > You'll probably have better experience with Linux, > at you current level of knowledge and understanding. > That's nothing bad (and not meant as an insult). > You might consider using a different distribution > which is more to your liking (no Gnome, no convoluted > desktop, no autorestarting Tor etc.), which you can > install on the FreeBSD partition (after you've freed > that disk space). You will find a good distribution > for sure. And Linux is still a place where you can > learn valuable skills in using a computer. > > > > > It is not suited > > It's definitely _not_ the fault of the operating system. > By reviewing the many messages, their form and their > content, this can be taken as granted. > > > > > Please delete the thread > > This is not possible, and I already mentioned the reasons > in a previous message. Even better: It will stay on the > Internet forever. ;-) > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 21:37:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3216ECA9060 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A062F1243 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:29 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 792793CBF9; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0ALbGtM002036; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 Message-Id: <20170110223716.80190211.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <861swjx6mv.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> <1483475176.874533.836320369.7B612577@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with DF4F968343F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2260 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:37:28 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:54:11 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Discussion is ended .Author have not any demand for freebsd and > solaris They are not officially supported by those who run the WLAN you want to connect to. If you are not able to configure a real UNIX system to properly connect (which is possible), you need to stick with what they want you to use and give up your individual choice on that topic. It's up to you to do so, nobody forces you to use software that you don't like - except when you start working, then you have to do whatever your boss tells you to do. ;-) > They are both not adressed mobile communication 16 hours per day Nonsense. I actually have two (!) laptops which are online via WLAN 24 hours per day. Claim falsified. > They both have not dedicated command for Wireless Communication > as iwconfig ,only subset in ifconfig Because it is not needed to stuff everything into one monolithic command. That is the basis of FreeBSD as a versatile (!) operating system. > They both adressed sysadmin with 100 users SAP ,Oracle ,100 TB ,which > used wlan 3% Nonsense. Guess what? I made an experiment today. I borrowed my neighbor's son. He's 15 years old and uses Linux for about a year now. I gave him the access data for my WLAN and a FreeBSD laptop (installed from scratch), and I opened my web browser with the relevant FreeBSD handbook pages. After a few minor questions, he was able to get connected in less than 30 minutes! What did he de? Basically what the handbook said, plus a few advices and from my side (like hints that "ee" is the default editor, or that manpages can be checked without online connection). I don't want to make any implication or insult with this statement. It just falsifies your claim and provides a refreshing counterpart to today's common "click & grunt" dumbphone generation. ;-) > And not planned to have any understanding of both -Solaris and > Freebsd Allow me to answer by quoting Andrew Carnegie: He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not is a bigot. He that dare not is a slave. I may add that a fundamental understanding of the working of modern day technology (such as wireless networks and computers, their software, and how to use them) should not be foreign to anyone attending university. I hope that does not reflect your general mindset regarding science, research, learning and understanding. ;-) > No any relation to software industry You have, if you want or not. Software defines our lives. And your urge to be on WLAN for 18 hours per day proves you wrong. Richard Feynman: "What I cannot create, I do not understand." And what you don't understand will finally control you. Good luck. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 10 22:19:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9ABCAAA33 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lrh@alum.mit.edu) Received: from nm33.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm33.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAA531050 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lrh@alum.mit.edu) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1484086773; bh=6365xmsUjiTxSDjq/rZpK4r4QTQBd6i+MGwxPAAjp0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=CFJHTXf7HvlUreI0n0RbuvdWweT37PBJhCKUFe1yrs+j8bKY00QziyaPqJXRpqrrGrl4KSZWUQGiUuonwMmlMvDQBABNEmCGdZTdG/CjEog0TZ0FkKCZB4uUmcnQ8wkjbtw10X/JpVD/69UbrRby/xxK89KYLF4fc/crmo6PDBTUlfZj0KDSOEcV0tGkaeYEi7BerAJh9CLSg0FnO/Qao1RuM3hm4uWAM6mifM5kkIwiJcVMYfVSJRg+1517Gd1xlyqWxcK+R+ZRlFyqbBBj2xi1cS5Ic0wfRNIFq1PDfRD1YbrJ3pu/XsHOs8TeELixIJlxRCcdptPsVKIaM4ikJg== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm33.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2017 22:19:33 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.181] by nm33.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2017 22:14:44 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.220] by tm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2017 22:14:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2017 22:14:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 570985.51261.bm@omp1028.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: rLTZkUgVM1lwlmK9flsYJ5MYoY8B6IDdkWLg2SGQ04_mMZ0DyKj0PoZ.y_KPSsZ 64wEzXGFvPutJOjbhsXo4FiaPginJBO2QrdZXMVmVA6NqBAE.aSA4g1Zp0Gl77.RtS8BT5VxDYFX NITxIJbFXbdcNEQTmsOZkDhE64XyqmXT.TfDfRc5oHoQCm3tEkUsX8giFiC.3Kws15uGpYFBW44j CQVZVVTQ5DRVOacOrzLYHJ79iDdJaWkjuNxW.rAz1pe24K.NjeZWmuMbP3sptG2iPkSdZFpxbHe2 qpSBPj6M7b2n8aFrZ.njDAHdtW4Ta1qz3eyiIFpdctCwe4KoBzyDxMjrahUetv5UuHyk7bThLdSq 8qxod_vq.XbXbxwT4QQJLU4Yg3mSej9KbUorB6Vd29yKLRSWa0SwEPFNdVLvGEU8yG13q__SzRdy hkA4lAjmVO1kbCy4QZC5IILYeb7EhSHHAsBu00cJqDzUwy5vfW6u8lHKGU5cGIJlsPYpSReLh0o6 1WOev.j6IxQ-- Received: from jws300004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com by sendmailws113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:14:44 +0000; 1484086484.188 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:14:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Dr Lyman Hazelton Reply-To: Dr Lyman Hazelton To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <1935423203.1052397.1484086483831@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: X11/KDE on FreeBSD 10.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1935423203.1052397.1484086483831.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:19:40 -0000 Hi. I have purchased the FreeBSD installation DVD from FreeBSD Mall. =C2=A0I am= installing on a newer AMD 64 system. I have had no issue with getting FreeBSD UNIX up and running on this machin= e. =C2=A0However, when I try to use either pkg install xorg or I try to make the port of most anything (like, for example, emacs), the = install always fails. The fail when attempting to use pkg install happens when pkg install tries = to update the catalogue, where it says there is no address record. =C2=A0Th= en it says a pkg update is required. Doing a pkg update seems to do nothing= and the install fails in all events. Trying to install anything using a make install clean in the port directory= appears to die when it can't find pkgconf and, again, says there is no add= ress record. What am I doing wrong here? =C2=A0I have what appears to be a happily worki= ng FreeBSD UNIX that talks to the Internet just fine and does all the basic= things it's supposed to do. =C2=A0I want to get X11 and KDE running on thi= s system. =C2=A0I finally got a port from=C2=A0freebsd.kde.org/ports.php to= compile and install, but I have not been able to install X or anything els= e (like emacs or pkgconf). Any wisdom about this, please? =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lyman From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 06:22:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D3ACAA8EA for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95B191917 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id v0B63rHN059601; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:03:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: X11/KDE on FreeBSD 10.3 To: Dr Lyman Hazelton , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" , lrh@alum.mit.edu References: <1935423203.1052397.1484086483831.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1935423203.1052397.1484086483831@mail.yahoo.com> From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: <1f0ea53d-74ca-d18e-7e80-a1e8ee98e9ef@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:03:53 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1935423203.1052397.1484086483831@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:03:54 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:22:58 -0000 On 01/10/17 15:14, Dr Lyman Hazelton wrote: > I have purchased the FreeBSD installation DVD from FreeBSD Mall. I > am installing on a newer AMD 64 system. I have had no issue with > getting FreeBSD UNIX up and running on this machine. However, when I > try to use either pkg install xorg or I try to make the port of most > anything (like, for example, emacs), the install always fails. The > fail when attempting to use pkg install happens when pkg install > tries to update the catalogue, where it says there is no address > record. Then it says a pkg update is required. Doing a pkg update > seems to do nothing and the install fails in all events. Trying to > install anything using a make install clean in the port directory > appears to die when it can't find pkgconf and, again, says there is > no address record. What am I doing wrong here? I have what appears > to be a happily working FreeBSD UNIX that talks to the Internet just > fine and does all the basic things it's supposed to do. I want to > get X11 and KDE running on this system. I finally got a port from > freebsd.kde.org/ports.php to compile and install, but I have not been > able to install X or anything else (like emacs or pkgconf). Any > wisdom about this, please? It would help if you would post the actual commands you are using and the output. It may be a DNS error; does DNS resolution work? What's the output of host ftp.freebsd.org What's in /etc/resolv.conf? If nothing, do: echo '208.67.222.222' >/etc/resolv.conf which is an opendns.com nameserver. You will probably want something else permanently depending on your ISP. I build from ports so I'm not much help with packages. However, this article: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/47515/ indicates pkg update -f may resolve the problem once you know DNS is working. 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ct7sm7753377wjc.2.2017.01.11.02.19.31 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 02:19:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 02:19:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:19:31 GMT Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0BAJVk0073260 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:19:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v0BAJVjH073259 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:19:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201701111019.v0BAJVjH073259@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: help with mixer settings Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:19:35 -0000 Hi My skype4 sound quality is quite bad. (Yes I know about jitsi. It used to work great, but for a couple of weeks I cannot see or hear and cannot be heard or seen). I wonder if part of the issue is to do with my mixer settings: Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer speaker is currently set to 74:74 Mixer rec is currently set to 37:37 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Mixer ogain is currently set to 100:100 Mixer monitor is currently set to 67:67 Recording source: monitor mixer(8) man page doesn't really explain what each setting refers to. Can anybody explain or point to a more detailed source of information. Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 10:24:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757DCAAE34 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 473C61FE7 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E3F20D9D; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 05:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 05:24:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=h9e/T/t4xbIue+aR102Mt2GwtC g=; b=ATvwthfoDz0yFuzov0dtjpfAc6qDK3RDeA9u+YG1Or1qTxiR9ULK8QbY1b 9yrzOYn34Mcx5OjIX3tqlHwONeiZ2nry+q+Pw2DaxXp1emr7p5vlwPSZrNRFbU7s O8UmRH8PR7bQRL82GzVH+tTLEO3R+LgkSEpmsjPUe+4pdDEUs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=h9 e/T/t4xbIue+aR102Mt2GwtCg=; b=sx0b/IhK/GumHrrKEB9JES8LaEVE43aAeW scjD8IwF3N5sYfpp5YSTipy3ylilXcqWyAzM5InzAWzX+PJ/CFwKZOJ7CAybnzox 2zOOhwZYJLpkF1CUaq7zu2q42Odo8j2ChPAZSIApUAjwaYQrEMNtaeH4n+0T6bZr +mUk+BggM= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6682B48001; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 05:24:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1484130280.804449.844099752.7D133F77@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-92a17122 In-Reply-To: <20170110223716.80190211.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <861swjx6mv.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> <1483475176.874533.836320369.7B612577@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110223716.80190211.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:24:40 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:24:42 -0000 Gentlemen Thank you for your assistance by unsucessfull freebsd instalaltion attempt Author solely responsible for misfortune Disscusion is ended .Author will not make stress to anonther participants of forum . Please remove thread and remove author from automatical e-mail distribution list Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7aOnRO1v9E > > > They are both not adressed mobile communication 16 hours per day > Nonsense. I actually have two (!) laptops which are online > via WLAN 24 hours per day. Claim falsified. > No, author have had suggest of experienced(20 years ) Solaris ,Oracle ,Cisco Sysadm He have said before installation attempt ,that author is false with UNIX attempt . Author suspected that he have a right ,but tryed to test Freebsd and Solaris both are not suited for mobile communications of single user ,the both adressed social group of system administrators .Exceptions can be - germany argo - Compujter Freak ,but it is not the author ---------- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 10:26:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B599CAAFBF for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A07F81133 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id WyQl1u00l07iGuj01yQnFR; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:24:47 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 123fc by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:24:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:24:45 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Damien Fleuriot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [IPFW] stateful session timeout Message-ID: <20170111102445.GA53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:26:01 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:16:46PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Hello list, > We currently use PF on 8-STABLE and 10-STABLE boxes. > > I'm playing around a bit with ipfw and have not found a way to replicate > PF's *per-rule* custom session lifetimes. > > Anyone's got anything on the subject ? ;) Is this about dynamic rules? Because looking at ipfw(8) you can only set th= at globally via the net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_* sysctls. From the manual: Dynamic rules expire after some time, which depends on the status of t= he flow and the setting of some sysctl variables. See Section SYSCTL VARIABLES for more details. For TCP sessions, dynamic rules can be instructed to periodically send keepalive packets to refresh the state= of the rule when it is about to expire. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEV1MzJBZhsP6Nk/ztQPbV3KOKM+AFAlh2B+YACgkQQPbV3KOK M+Dn0g/9GJ0SwxT+t+jPHnTAAfQK6/CSL1e/h2bdfjJvHP9Aht5ksjFzOBddSfoJ xqtiHOmIemtZ/e6p9fRTYGlRsyrxn/bzr7PBqFYtE5kYWFFO9+SxTAUvDv2jtIcQ otC9qmrnMi2mBGQHsFZo0vYHR3PaMvguTqenuRHCWQm74CCfFmD4HUGHV1M1KHS4 Ik5nZwZpUhG52KF3WSU5KVhoe9fF8//jk1ngyG9wnW2uLCb/pSRHeyg+NQoFHGWK 1aKTv/bkFieOdElyijtazRv1oUU9o6Cj+r2CToabPTXxunmQ85ryGxK91EJMR9mm /Jx1ALrjuj4ejYrMbG7G4piXjkxXQ0+Y/AwtlD4ZJ4R5MGeMarKGrO2WdPnioWj4 5j9SPxAyk0o09U2Y+//PtRHEuaZE9XE8wY/g5xh8CeaFkR8HLFnXqVYf+b6EfPsm vw4nUftbDZi23Te020L4Qp2q07UOc/Kxdv6pqa06QpLv4ApcAJD0p2tiTN7AFCY3 y7QD6E9PgdiTCVvGETLJK+sorgflNYOy4xmTIVDASaVMewGiCYccEW/pdpICItN+ eoPLDCs6NY3MJ+FPu+66bpeF9+VWjlf09JSHuZNjebX83EpGBZ0JOiLiueZda4Zo FBCkjelqcE3wZmAcS4OiP6F/pXixAw7zx7TPQmE73WwdR5iWvdk= =F/46 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 11:06:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9B1CABAE2 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65FFD15C5 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id Wz6a1u00307iGuj01z6b7P; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:06:35 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 123f3 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:06:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:06:34 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Damien Fleuriot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain Message-ID: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:06:37 -0000 --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:26:53PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Hello list, > > Is there any place that lists orphaned ports, as in ports lacking an actu= al > maintainer ? The answer in the forum post (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/36243/) li= nked to by Anastasios Mageirias is good but not complete. The state of a port as an orhpan is not as black-and-white as it might seem. Ports that have no maintainer *and have no relevant mailing-list* have their maintainer listed as =E2=80=9Cports@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D. These are clearly= orphans. But (for example) python or ruby related ports that have no dedicated maint= ainer have their maintainer listed as =E2=80=9Cpython@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D or =E2= =80=9Cruby@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D, i.e. the relevant mailing-list. Look for example at the math/py-numpy port. This has python@freebsd.org listed as maintainer, but is still regularly updated via PRs. > Being a sysadmin and not a dev, I'm looking for a (very) entry level port, > something which doesn't require deep programming knowledge. Look for orphan ports with a relatively short port Makefile . :-) The aforementioned math/py-numpy is a case in point. At 103 lines it is not a p= ort for beginners, I'd say. Something like for example audio/wmrecord for examp= le would be better suited. But most important is probably that it is a port *you use and care about*. A port where you don't mind checking the website for updates and submitting a= PR with port updates. 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I cannot remember if the web version of Skype is working yet, I try to avoid Skype like the plague but that's going off topic. >From what I can see the mixer looks fine to me. I assume you've tried to verify your hardware works by playing music or a sound of some kind? Sorry I cannot be of any more help. On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 02:19:31AM -0800, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Hi > > My skype4 sound quality is quite bad. > (Yes I know about jitsi. > It used to work great, but for a couple of > weeks I cannot see or hear and cannot be heard or seen). > > I wonder if part of the issue is to do with my > mixer settings: > > Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 74:74 > Mixer rec is currently set to 37:37 > Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer ogain is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer monitor is currently set to 67:67 > Recording source: monitor > > mixer(8) man page doesn't really explain > what each setting refers to. > > Can anybody explain or point to a more detailed > source of information. > > Thanks > > Anton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kind Regards Kai Sent via Mutt Email Client From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 11:44:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FF3CAB6F5 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.117.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC7341E69 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986ED20090 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:36:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs20.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA942008C for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:36:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from scarecrow.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 749AF2001F for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:36:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <587618C8.7090003@saunalahti.fi> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:36:40 +0200 From: Heikki Lindholm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; fi; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with mixer settings References: <201701111019.v0BAJVjH073259@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <201701111019.v0BAJVjH073259@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:44:46 -0000 11.1.2017 12.19, Anton Shterenlikht kirjoitti: > Hi > > My skype4 sound quality is quite bad. > (Yes I know about jitsi. > It used to work great, but for a couple of > weeks I cannot see or hear and cannot be heard or seen). > > I wonder if part of the issue is to do with my > mixer settings: > > Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 74:74 > Mixer rec is currently set to 37:37 > Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer ogain is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer monitor is currently set to 67:67 > Recording source: monitor > > mixer(8) man page doesn't really explain > what each setting refers to. Older skype has been really sketchy after the MS acquisition and after they started modifying the network. I don't see how mixer settings could affect sound quality other than too much gain -> distortion. Ever heard of other alternatives like Tox or Ring? Both better technologies imho than the ones mentioned. In freebsd you can at least pkg install utox. Not sure if Ring (ring.cx) is available. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 11:53:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0D1CAB975 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ua0-x232.google.com (mail-ua0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 891D6133A for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-ua0-x232.google.com with SMTP id 35so74652431uak.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9qWSz70GTZEoFFpRvhfZr85R9XfLqK9fPzJqTwoAtkU=; b=Nq2JoEA1N5/kIsXKO8XZb0qdhS3yPi3ZUsz3zUpXaparaBHBrhM5WtZgr8TL94IUEZ hgtrP9TWMW3bm7QKLthV4W0OuO1gPmbIaHoINIvTxMHELXdFPbOmEIIjyley24o+d7mf nGiYdTAcKiQ19jpk6Ftd2gYNz4zfoV41aJyO7h75TeB/xH988ggJIJabkg7XYyUwi+fr df2GYcACLT1AGTk+qPpKU6adYKCz0S8vBe7zaudM2d0zLuhR85TxObE6gAhGo9LgZWOi U2AGsb5OuGa7VTfxlxeBesx3NWUqIVRkp0sd0ceWfnLs+JzFJDP3/Az1R4mH7EJp3WzS zAIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9qWSz70GTZEoFFpRvhfZr85R9XfLqK9fPzJqTwoAtkU=; b=ViwNLm05vTf2IRZqHFFJShqdQ25RRc4MWPM3i7rgdCCLIdhWu714BwtTvvnJY5lbhJ 3rhl+yxP3cCOBIDVwIOwLoXP6B6twsAdsU6EBiacwjEKDee65j5hASejeU4BYwMAGgLE Tebit745YctgOAWFoq5G2cReDr1g+cuwMPpR0zriBfDGeeK2Pe1GvTNS/fVGwiH45d3D +qJc6/qCxjv4MJpOkvIH1eVD3XdqpcClBUPIE2Me4yJAri5RuTPJaaNFwumDajNfqynT qU3qJK+HbzhpdiRqy++9mEC7l4vINL8rRf1RGU9K6Y2G1FECyXQ6+N7+Ab5Y03XwHUj/ dRNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJM2tFTHBaDXOOt97GQ8pknnX7Q9fKuYXiP+H7flSR2UTTU60HlNg7ocSIL86CeY723xTzhShKn/JtLuw== X-Received: by 10.176.1.119 with SMTP id 110mr3565540uak.143.1484135582636; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:53:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:53:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:53:03 -0000 Thanks for the additional input Roland. I currently have my eye on shells/lshell, which we use here on 10-STABLE for PCI-DSS compliance (restricting and logging commands). It so happens the current (0.9.16_2) version on FreeBSD suffers from a nasty case of shell escape : https://github.com/ghantoos/lshell/issues/151 root:~$ echo () sh && echo # ^-- uh oh... I cannot seem to reproduce when using the latest master branch, and am seeking confirmation in the bug thread that I'm actually trying to reproduce correctly. If it should transpire that the problem is indeed fixed in the master, I shall try and update the port to the latest version. On 11 January 2017 at 12:06, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:26:53PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> Is there any place that lists orphaned ports, as in ports lacking an act= ual >> maintainer ? > > The answer in the forum post (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/36243/) = linked to > by Anastasios Mageirias is good but not complete. > > The state of a port as an orhpan is not as black-and-white as it might se= em. > > Ports that have no maintainer *and have no relevant mailing-list* have th= eir > maintainer listed as =E2=80=9Cports@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D. These are clear= ly orphans. > > But (for example) python or ruby related ports that have no dedicated mai= ntainer > have their maintainer listed as =E2=80=9Cpython@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D or = =E2=80=9Cruby@freebsd.org=E2=80=9D, > i.e. the relevant mailing-list. Look for example at the math/py-numpy por= t. > This has python@freebsd.org listed as maintainer, but is still regularly > updated via PRs. > >> Being a sysadmin and not a dev, I'm looking for a (very) entry level por= t, >> something which doesn't require deep programming knowledge. > > Look for orphan ports with a relatively short port Makefile . :-) The > aforementioned math/py-numpy is a case in point. At 103 lines it is not a= port > for beginners, I'd say. Something like for example audio/wmrecord for exa= mple > would be better suited. > > But most important is probably that it is a port *you use and care about*= . A > port where you don't mind checking the website for updates and submitting= a PR > with port updates. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 12:04:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397BBCA7A1D for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s19.hotmail.com [65.55.90.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F25BA1EAB for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-VE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.90.72]) by SNT004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <0E298B806E3FE340B685A50250DB511E@eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 11 Jan 2017 12:04:28.8707 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VE1EUR01HT220 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2017 12:04:31.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD9B90E0:01D26C02] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:04:32 -0000 On 01/11/17 15:56, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > I have purchased the FreeBSD installation DVD from FreeBSD Mall. ?I am in= stalling on a newer AMD 64 system. > I have had no issue with getting FreeBSD UNIX up and running on this mach= ine. ?However, when I try to use either > pkg install xorg > or I try to make the port of most anything (like, for example, emacs), th= e install always fails. > The fail when attempting to use pkg install happens when pkg install trie= s to update the catalogue, where it says there is no address record. ?Then = it says a pkg update is required. Doing a pkg update seems to do nothing an= d the install fails in all events. > Trying to install anything using a make install clean in the port directo= ry appears to die when it can't find pkgconf and, again, says there is no a= ddress record. > What am I doing wrong here? ?I have what appears to be a happily working = FreeBSD UNIX that talks to the Internet just fine and does all the basic th= ings it's supposed to do. ?I want to get X11 and KDE running on this system= . ?I finally got a port from?freebsd.kde.org/ports.php to compile and insta= ll, but I have not been able to install X or anything else (like emacs or p= kgconf). > Any wisdom about this, please? Hi, As Gary already said, this should be something related to incorrect DNS=20 settings. To confirm, do the following : ping 8.8.178.110 ping www.freebsd.org If 1st command works and the 2nd does not, it confirms bad DNS. You can=20 then set things right with : bsdconfig networking If you do not have your own DNS settings, use OpenDNS - that is what I=20 use myself. DNS1 =3D 208.67.222.222; DNS2 =3D 208.67.220.220 Regards Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 12:05:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EEACA7ADC for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com (mail-ua0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2EAB1F78 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i68so404692883uad.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:05:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9x6KH+o1WLN4zCso7mg77GFIgm8v1sknHlv4+t0wXFc=; b=YIS9gX/oSkGRuOeiBznYZ4QywowNh4YL9H/eRsSP4NdsbR2v9B0kLeOFNYhxQ45Lr5 QYrfSRKuT360KbhYek/Hfp0uM/2EymCyRxg4M7ptYcexzPZscdLOjUfSxqcCampjijNK ZxLVRYPSuivaliLWZdfG9rIyGOzetA02AyC+kN52drQkhHDuuDNXSYU0LjZ1Nqgx7HnV 5CJpxidts7tJ89PzTBshbekTDGivHMxUVH4b66YLrCKRLDKivREXwR63o0ERIQwvkF8z MutmYzOd33Vz2Ru3pSIFd8MrFs/8w+mWgE/NfKmLCeqH5YRgWZbb078NxA+NsfT0mVhV GQOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9x6KH+o1WLN4zCso7mg77GFIgm8v1sknHlv4+t0wXFc=; b=ABFk0C/bvJitZnShjxSfhRiKb9qsbI0Nq+JIF6mnQlkEkDLQ/3Kp1/JkPW9h/lDHW4 jabYTrtljnWG57ZwPM82kzUhmx5ltaF/teMvbrkXF41qHRNuhrxpf3ACvY2rjRAGeFrx ZbF7aPxOi9DK9Hxkadvr7I9rqC9pxHAFGLA1sFsPnG5kmXmh0DYIBlYlRLZuiEpfyrEh F174xfqvpB0t11u7e+l07IZxGALVo4KCzUk7CuMoDjFheFJItDe5SUZEmIHBmJvAACxh biek/61J8MzcAcbnt8s0SAe8qei7P1KOP8FSdkrh/qrlbHIwfmpACCiDCjKXQNdNJEFo pZMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIFEk+VGcIxV1NwzgiKIZIelGjLKxm7VssoKcyDYVeEb7r2tWE15EO8UcHpUGBoI8xEnieGsijhGzuWag== X-Received: by 10.176.1.174 with SMTP id 43mr4429773ual.44.1484136311012; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:05:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:05:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170111102445.GA53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20170111102445.GA53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [IPFW] stateful session timeout To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:05:12 -0000 On 11 January 2017 at 11:24, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 03:16:46PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Hello list, > >> We currently use PF on 8-STABLE and 10-STABLE boxes. >> >> I'm playing around a bit with ipfw and have not found a way to replicate >> PF's *per-rule* custom session lifetimes. >> >> Anyone's got anything on the subject ? ;) > > Is this about dynamic rules? Because looking at ipfw(8) you can only set that > globally via the net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_* sysctls. From the manual: > > Dynamic rules expire after some time, which depends on the status of the > flow and the setting of some sysctl variables. See Section SYSCTL > VARIABLES for more details. For TCP sessions, dynamic rules can be > instructed to periodically send keepalive packets to refresh the state of > the rule when it is about to expire. > Aye, that is my actual problem, a global timer as opposed to PF's per-rule capability. I understand that is an edge case, however that is one that strongly prevents the use of ipfw in PF's stead. For example, we use very aggressive timers on PF to prevent resource and state exhaustion attacks, however for some protocols we use slightly more permissive timers. Say our nginx client body timeout is 20s, I'll set us up a tcp.established timer of 22-24s on the HTTP/HTTPS rules. However, I'll stick to a regular 10s on our other rules. I'm afraid I shan't be able to do that with ipfw, killing any plans of moving to it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 14:04:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523CCCA9D90 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com (mail-qt0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C0351DBC for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id v23so195803033qtb.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:04:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lmL628jQ14ZNsWTsW3M8lSzawa4Uy680qlsPqjV7Buo=; b=HZVffLzd+86xmtXbhQtFNz8Mj1ofe82J3zghpxYhlZQsG5j6kkUNU5PTHonWgY5T47 olFC2DoCc1jOU+71Y7NJAnQotQ46hnGH4DPIjmZqxUNu7WjO8/mixZZbfGva6VOQUVi9 JV3Tl4yUzsaQgUUcibEI+KnxI+nvR94a080ZotoKSjZ+UUMuuaWMUWmBncgn0CoIRYje fUvAqIaF9zj6logkOEd+Nd7OHSREplEkzlsbfX0mMR2o38wPcPTg5uhhEZokTrQqhvvW 65ZauFEpgnrGViC5mejh0iQxddCnr39iPTojNZrqp9LZn+d/lB8EcCm9KQxLDeU2LOgv yqhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lmL628jQ14ZNsWTsW3M8lSzawa4Uy680qlsPqjV7Buo=; b=uij7dYNfrlWUHVjne2ot06UlLTQwbBH3ydQNeul8zDtaYTI8QRBabV61TqDZpNGJ3t KbXNSx5UzJnQphF6yAV3PJa1eyJsDpoGOZ/LvGAnRUJtFKmo/DqIVKKgiIQDyAOse1Kr zpUhOrjc8AL8dDoofa0Kk4k3C+XOoorwioo6ek6e8MzyhjJjFcJJ1J7Pg6X8mMbHJvyJ WcZB1++3XqqN75rlTLtcv/vG7H15vFgvUTXboy7JqitLQ9GLs8+xreyefwAk2Ktw4ys5 Sr937ULTJqEKUIpVciO+rFh2wFPw3IR0OOJQUPaN1HES/fFuz6Xd14gzu3k5NLXSNdz0 wJuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLu7aYtTPapUGRj7gOIjB1D2dTpwJiisJxkaKbqeVCsNFcz4ggxU7r1zuWu0IM3PEgQcjbpYn6FwXNuxw== X-Received: by 10.237.48.139 with SMTP id 11mr7611102qtf.219.1484143463641; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:04:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.215.135 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:03:43 -0800 (PST) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:03:43 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: No dialogue for `make config` after upgrade to 11.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:04:25 -0000 I have upgraded a system from 9.3 -> 10.3 -> 11.0 using source upgrade. root@waridi:/usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 # uname -msr *FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE amd64* I seem to be having some serious problems with it when it comes to building applications. 1. When (for instance) I cd /usr/ports/www/apache24 && make config *The usual dialogue to select the options I want doesn't come up*. 2. Some applications that I used to compile manually don't want to let me go past `configure`. I get this error of: *....* * checking type of off_t... unknown* * configure: error: Unsupported off_t type* 3. Ports don't want to obey the DESTDIR macro: root@waridi:/usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 # make DESTDIR=/opt/dovecot2.2 ===> Creating some important subdirectories ===> /tmp subdirectory has been successfully created ===> /dev subdirectory has been successfully created ===> Starting chrooted make in /opt/dovecot2.2... chroot: /bin/sh: No such file or directory ===> Chrooted make in /opt/dovecot2.2 failed ===> Cleaning up... *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 I am wondering what I could be missing which has led to these.. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." 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[50.243.135.133]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 81sm3397273itj.6.2017.01.11.09.57.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:57:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:57:59 -0700 From: Sergey Manucharian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: help with mixer settings Message-ID: <20170111175759.GF7500@skypond.pcs.pcsplungerlift.com> References: <201701111019.v0BAJVjH073259@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201701111019.v0BAJVjH073259@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:58:00 -0000 Excerpts from Anton Shterenlikht's message from Wed 11-Jan-17 02:19: > My skype4 sound quality is quite bad. > (Yes I know about jitsi. > It used to work great, but for a couple of > weeks I cannot see or hear and cannot be heard or seen). You probably have settings in Skype to let it control volume/mic levels. That doesn't actually work with the Linux version of Skype running in FreeBSD. I would suggest to turn those options off, then with trial and error find good settings and create a script to set you levels before starting a Skype session. -- Sergey From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 18:50:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05E5CABB6F for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x235.google.com (mail-qt0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EB6F12C0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x235.google.com with SMTP id v23so203994931qtb.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PEOsjUzaH8nZ7tW9p3ydQrFzPItZiQaN+n2hqekfO1M=; b=YHqMrLbgPzSDzNsv3Yf7m86cDCINufvUEtVCt10LJibmaXn9sXGZeaGQuMRlaY+QuK mq2+kKSXMQXzAiAMahr8fWjXccGzjgUK0JjzNGPl1C/L680lSf0yQEzObasNGE+vcihi f3PTuLA4V+7QCHvQcEF6XewUg7cksrusN24oRoxpnpYPMlj10Le5S1ZJex6KsT6SVQNQ pbEKdkx2Mzg+CUuj2gMp2wnol0Tg15IKwRKKIT6l7RcYw4jE15lCAFhmYloPdSjguD6G iNFHrWzlWLWYHbrcLPrO0ywBq2c4U51ff9enJA5kahevmPgoG6Dx0xdAYSen3pdTI7hP /ODg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PEOsjUzaH8nZ7tW9p3ydQrFzPItZiQaN+n2hqekfO1M=; b=RRalim09citXm82P97f2I3dcZ/w8DFlRhkr7mGfhpd/pXL+LU3orfR5jKe8x5+mjpC VpdY8KeuFAkm/gZYIwQpjiZzCh1Gs0/Czbn9vVRKMIDoJcYvUbAVZNzo4ChwlkGGCmGe qXA6ZLXTqhBk3KxE2tGGygXwMw1XjIBLf0zJTqIEaYne4lfiDfymTlle3+RFXumVM1GT BGxlPT1oMTLfEm/aEB7w6fc7cQjCPir6wB7vmOHccKN0hj0yIpeA2gSs0HrpSFJ+kh// FQ2W1aW4kOgmUIcMVXxne0ggoDVEway0vQGOjwc2IXzBkZ6XJ1goig2W08cHfQFkjczK uVlg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKsm+RWLEkzhGER9AeXVFeHonCd4NHYHmKa73k+tCgUhshLkvnqrisR0OS2HHseqvb5fAZfBwVOX/I2UQ== X-Received: by 10.200.50.157 with SMTP id z29mr8831185qta.131.1484160653738; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:50:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.215.135 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:50:13 -0800 (PST) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:50:13 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: No dialogue for `make config` after upgrade to 11.0 [SOLVED] To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:50:55 -0000 On 11 January 2017 at 17:03, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have upgraded a system from 9.3 -> 10.3 -> 11.0 using source upgrade. > > > root@waridi:/usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 # uname -msr > *FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE amd64* > > I seem to be having some serious problems with it when it comes to > building applications. > > 1. When (for instance) I > cd /usr/ports/www/apache24 && make config > *The usual dialogue to select the options I want doesn't come up*. > > 2. Some applications that I used to compile manually don't want to let me > go past `configure`. I get this error of: > *....* > * checking type of off_t... unknown* > * configure: error: Unsupported off_t type* > > 3. Ports don't want to obey the DESTDIR macro: > > root@waridi:/usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 # make DESTDIR=/opt/dovecot2.2 > ===> Creating some important subdirectories > ===> /tmp subdirectory has been successfully created > ===> /dev subdirectory has been successfully created > ===> Starting chrooted make in /opt/dovecot2.2... > chroot: /bin/sh: No such file or directory > ===> Chrooted make in /opt/dovecot2.2 failed > ===> Cleaning up... > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot2 > > > I am wondering what I could be missing which has led to these.. > These major version upgrades aren't interesting! I think fresh installs should be a lot easier now that I have experienced this! The solution is delete all ports, then install them afresh all at ago, not just one by one :-(. > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 20:45:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297EDCAB82B for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 041861655 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 3727CB6A4; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:48 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484167548; bh=KUZz7AzEbIzayr04/mZnReQQuTiX0cCtpiGBum6L6mA=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=YdjqD3YwPwZc0fYGqUUyiRSsUg6hhkKAtKvH2X6aZARPTN9kInyDOm0ofST/TXMrZ VMUltkfvj0j7MU+wqCRSps8AOlaTW18D+BTpvI1prWnXb86lgml/NqFSuqap8zWl3C f+uD6ZO2HQCqHw+PQD8Pp+p0CTQav2BfG39kw0fA= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3470B69B for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484167547; bh=KUZz7AzEbIzayr04/mZnReQQuTiX0cCtpiGBum6L6mA=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=YMFcEMwH6re4YdjNxfjJWiwdgjGwKm136cxtT/MPW3xoHJ05NKzVQ402rCgYIpDrH hTM2rzbcHMLQRx8IZXDi43IbtOdfwcdvpJZ+L29Dvyu8Dzwdw5z+89KNaQMZ8X/L/M j9a2LLsUYtbkqhtS3itY4KLwbR3u4J0f7MUOWRJo= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-ID: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:45:55 -0000 Howdy, I've been happy using postfix+spamassassin for a long long time, and it's always worked great. However in the last few weeks it's not been scoring spam high enough, and in the last 10 days the spam is getting through in a torrent. I see a lot of scores in the 1-2 range, for what is obviously spam. I'm not really comfortable setting the threshold to 1, say. I basically use it out of the box with a few tweeks for performance, but I haven't changed anything in months. Does anybody know if something happened upstream, or was there some other relevant change, that I should be aware of? Starting here in case it happened at the ports level. Thanks, Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 20:51:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8460CCABB17 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oceanview.tundraware.com", Issuer "oceanview.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C21D1CA2 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.43.211] (mobile-166-175-187-183.mycingular.net [166.175.187.183] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v0BKnqN8030267 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:49:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:49:43 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:49:54 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: v0BKnqN8030267 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:51:44 -0000 On 01/11/2017 02:45 PM, Russell L. 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In the past, I have very occasionally found it necessary to uninstall the port, do a make rmconfig, and then make all install clean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 21:30:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A53CAAD7A for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com (mail-io0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F23401BB3 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id l66so3804216ioi.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:30:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=cRhXYHwSn6NUIqwZSF5mK7+VYLY3cPQI9JwTsH5bnYg=; b=mihAwoxWryGK8kzmv8OozDZ5MQ73H5m7utqE1qZKKZmYk0p+F5EVZN6g0qNPfg5RWs 6TZQnYjUYDInaLR0ILMqxfigd4gZ8wATlFD5/Cu04C5Jrhx7ANcHf7uHWw0OHwMqjQ8m 59x0Mb4JQia0MotqZnCpxGzcn6/bT3tMFVZiQL5lSs77rx5JPQBOOOtk+Rb77wq0CS2L IX2W0ztKgwSwNrcBqz76OUCXdp73CbhfDpt/SmOs2/Z8WAEixE3ggJPSjOea4Ci9RgFE TcfQpIAB03XYe4IbJCmYJ82ZcCpVF5vi7ByHGvkW4vZJV02Wfrxi0EKYkwGVmpv040PB nCNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJYWuG07m9LJQU9wk4M2FanACL5V+Gtrx5TWLvb9laZQeti8HfH3VNDkEsJlrWCWQ== X-Received: by 10.107.48.210 with SMTP id w201mr9821608iow.89.1484169878367; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorkBox.homestead.org ([184.97.148.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g76sm3654070ioj.36.2017.01.11.13.24.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (WorkBox.homestead.org [local]) by WorkBox.homestead.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 0e1c8817; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:24:36 -0600 (CST) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 25.1.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: No dialogue for `make config` after upgrade to 11.0 [SOLVED] In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:24:36 -0600 Message-ID: <861sw9ffxn.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:30:04 -0000 Odhiambo Washington writes: > I think fresh installs should be a lot easier now that I have experienced > this! > > The solution is delete all ports, then install them afresh all at ago, not > just one by one :-(. That's normal for major version upgrades. The Handbook says as much: whether you upgrade FreeBSD from source or using `freebsd-update`, or just install FreeBSD from scratch, you'll need to (re)install your ports or packages. So it's always been. There is a work-around in the form of the "misc/compatXx" ports (e.g. misc/compat10x) that will allow you to temporarily continue working with your currently installed ports while the upgrade is in progress. If you just use packages, upgrading everything at once is fine. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 21:51:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CA4CAB571 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9536C1B26 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cRQ54-0001Z0-5A; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:05:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cRQ5i-000Mxc-Gx; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:05:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:05:07 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-Id: <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:51:44 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 "Russell L. Carter" wrote: > Howdy, > > I've been happy using postfix+spamassassin for a long long > time, and it's always worked great. However in the last > few weeks it's not been scoring spam high enough, and in the > last 10 days the spam is getting through in a torrent. I > see a lot of scores in the 1-2 range, for what is obviously > spam. I'm not really comfortable setting the threshold to > 1, say. I had a similar setup until recently, and like you I've been seeing spam getting through more and more despite regular running of sa-update, most of it botnet sourced. I've pretty much eliminated it now by a combination of installing dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin (reduced the spam getting through by 70% or so) and adding a backup MX with a free service that only accepts messages to relay when the primary is down (it's amazing how much spam stopped coming in when I did that). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 22:02:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF15CAB8B8 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oceanview.tundraware.com", Issuer "oceanview.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C0611DF for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [10.167.208.251] (mobile-166-175-187-183.mycingular.net [166.175.187.183] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v0BM10Pq031516 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:01:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) From: Tim Daneliuk To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , "Russell L. 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 22:11:41 -0000 I cannot seem to discover where one obtains the php5 module for apache24. On my CentOS6.8 boxes running Apache2.4.9 I do this in php.conf LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so But I cannot even locate a libphp5.so for FreeBSd to load. How is php invoked? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:11:05 -0000 Indeed, that was the entire problem. =C2=A0Sorry I took a while to get back= to you... the power supply on the new machine died in less than 12 hours o= f operation. =C2=A0It has been replaced and no loss at all. =C2=A0xorg is c= urrently being installed. THANK YOU!! =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Lyman =20 On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:05 AM, Manish Jain wrote: =20 =20 On 01/11/17 15:56, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > I have purchased the FreeBSD installation DVD from FreeBSD Mall. ?I am in= stalling on a newer AMD 64 system. > I have had no issue with getting FreeBSD UNIX up and running on this mach= ine. ?However, when I try to use either > pkg install xorg > or I try to make the port of most anything (like, for example, emacs), th= e install always fails. > The fail when attempting to use pkg install happens when pkg install trie= s to update the catalogue, where it says there is no address record. ?Then = it says a pkg update is required. Doing a pkg update seems to do nothing an= d the install fails in all events. > Trying to install anything using a make install clean in the port directo= ry appears to die when it can't find pkgconf and, again, says there is no a= ddress record. > What am I doing wrong here? ?I have what appears to be a happily working = FreeBSD UNIX that talks to the Internet just fine and does all the basic th= ings it's supposed to do. ?I want to get X11 and KDE running on this system= . ?I finally got a port from?freebsd.kde.org/ports.php to compile and insta= ll, but I have not been able to install X or anything else (like emacs or p= kgconf). > Any wisdom about this, please? Hi, As Gary already said, this should be something related to incorrect DNS=20 settings. To confirm, do the following : ping 8.8.178.110 ping www.freebsd.org If 1st command works and the 2nd does not, it confirms bad DNS. You can=20 then set things right with : bsdconfig networking If you do not have your own DNS settings, use OpenDNS - that is what I=20 use myself. DNS1 =3D 208.67.222.222; DNS2 =3D 208.67.220.220 Regards Manish Jain =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 11 23:18:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208E6CAB0CC for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C5B17E5 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 3FAC0CB8CA4; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:18:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:18:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:18:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Tim Daneliuk" Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:18:41 -0000 On Wed, January 11, 2017 4:00 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Milter greylist also helps considerably > I'm usually using sqlgrey for greylisting. In addition to that I'm using amavisd (that harnesses spamassassin, clamav (and/or other anti-viruses, - yes, I have windows people receiving their mail on our UNIX servers), and variety of distributed spam signature databases. Also, in postfix configuration (that we use as MTA) we add some RBLs: reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, I hope, this helps. Valeri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 00:13:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CD8CAB686 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C071118CF for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 40008BD9A; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:13:48 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484180028; bh=c+KT3jT55rxQStyguUUXaJ8NlDCOx+lQ0SnuBbm+54U=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To; b=paxwjuyD8KeqjMd0TmVh7/N9uD5Q4hgBhcBwZOmInWPSJhZnZBCXtfK9SfhIxq2Ca TAtPJPzk5YEMY6pRxkd1bHkcRWtFltEbhxo3v28k/hwk+9hD65iesRknq7UT4RH2yd eAgv3DBRJzi579SwDqGhURSkZy55fn5Ml8LXZ3IM= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B870BD72; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:13:46 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484180026; bh=c+KT3jT55rxQStyguUUXaJ8NlDCOx+lQ0SnuBbm+54U=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CTSwp00IL6yMURtEqHdHHnAmSrZH9xyeanDGl1+y1QlFbEgynbzDPRQd6oBxj/0If 1akEeuAqWTVW+HOAioQB4H+UlG2bkbDGEoJZSk7kR3L049R/hYL37h+dBZMRkXumGQ dPKslably4qIeUlPbEhkjJPT8xlzpD3ZmQP0E+FA= Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: Steve O'Hara-Smith References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:13:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:13:50 -0000 On 01/11/17 14:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 > "Russell L. Carter" wrote: > >> Howdy, >> >> I've been happy using postfix+spamassassin for a long long >> time, and it's always worked great. However in the last >> few weeks it's not been scoring spam high enough, and in the >> last 10 days the spam is getting through in a torrent. I >> see a lot of scores in the 1-2 range, for what is obviously >> spam. I'm not really comfortable setting the threshold to >> 1, say. > > I had a similar setup until recently, and like you I've been seeing > spam getting through more and more despite regular running of sa-update, > most of it botnet sourced. I've pretty much eliminated it now by a > combination of installing dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin (reduced Ok, good things to do. I was sorta hoping the answer wasn't going to be "need moar weapons!" but I guess that's the way it is. Several people asked if I was running sa-update regularly, and yes I am, through the sa-utils script in /usr/local/etc/periodic/daily. Checking my logs I don't see any new rules coming down lately, though. I have the threshold set at the default 5 out of laziness. In the past I've been as low as 3, but as I mentioned, a whole bunch of spam is getting through lower than that now. It's all SPF verified, etc. > the spam getting through by 70% or so) and adding a backup MX with a free > service that only accepts messages to relay when the primary is down (it's > amazing how much spam stopped coming in when I did that). > I'm not sure what you mean here, can you elaborate a bit more? I can do anything I like with my MX hosts so I'm game. I *think* I'm already doing that. I have multiple domains, and so I have a primary MX and a couple of backup MX hosts (one of which is effectively a passive dovecot replicator, lordy that works fantastic). The backup MX hosts are lower priority than the primary. Are you doing something different? Thanks everybody for the suggestions. I will start incrementally adding to my weapons stash and hope for the best. Thanks, Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 00:15:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985C1CAB90E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FB21A33 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:18:24 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B25F3CC42; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:15:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0C0FeSa002083; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:15:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:15:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1 Message-Id: <20170112011539.3c0fd4e4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1484130280.804449.844099752.7D133F77@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103214548.1d726a06.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483564140.1178887.837521761.7D1930C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105004510.44e54ddc.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483639288.1431717.838467905.64F6B28C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105193234.37780fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483644016.1447892.838558553.55CAAF02@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105204020.73eb19f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483648277.1462181.838634977.0F96BE41@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170105220725.2022bbbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483719401.1709945.839480929.51C6A762@webmail.messagingengine.com> <902ba502-8c0b-0eaa-ef88-759278d55cc2@bsdproject.de> <1484075508.3668815.843446345.5B026C57@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110203521.ac271bef.freebsd@edvax.de> <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170110223716.80190211.freebsd@edvax.de> <1484130280.804449.844099752.7D133F77@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with B7A006A356D X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2511 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:15:51 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:24:40 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Thank you for your assistance by unsucessfull freebsd instalaltion > attempt > Author solely responsible for misfortune Well, yes, I think that is true. > Disscusion is ended .Author will not make stress to anonther > participants of forum . It's a mailing list. ;-) > Please remove thread [...] The mailing list is public, and it has many public mirrors. It simply isn't possible to remove a thread. > [...] and remove author from automatical e-mail > distribution list See the instructions at the bottom of each list, which say: To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > No, author have had suggest of experienced(20 years ) Solaris ,Oracle > ,Cisco Sysadm > He have said before installation attempt ,that author is false with > UNIX attempt . I don't think that's a good point of view. Sure, you need some computer basics, but I found that you actually _have_ basic UNIX skills, which are a good foundation to build on. Basically reading, understanding, and deciding - that's how you get to learn FreeBSD. > Author suspected that he have a right ,but tryed to test > Freebsd and Solaris both are not suited for mobile communications > of single user , That is nonsense. Okay, I can't speak for Solaris which I am not using for mobile use, but FreeBSD _definitely_ works for that. Sadly you never followed the suggestion to try TrueOS (which was known as PC-BSD). It's quite comparable to Linux: It has a graphical installer, provides preinstalled and preconfigured applications, but basically _is_ FreeBSD, so you can have all the advantages of that OS. It aims at "less skilled" users (or at those who are too lazy to configure things to their preference). https://www.trueos.org/ Have a look at the screenshots: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trueos I think this is more what you expect from an operating system (even though this view might be considered quite limited). While FreeBSD is multi-platform, TrueOS explicitely targets the desktop use. And I think it even has a GUI WLAN configuration tool. ;-) > the > both adressed social group of system administrators . This is nonsense as well. FreeBSD is used by many individuals who just want a free, secure, stable, organized, well documented, compatible, interoperable and accessible OS on their computer. I have many friends using it, and _none_ of them is a system administrator. Regarding Solaris, I partially agree, is mostly found in "bigger" environments and administrated by skilled people, but used by "normal" people through thin clients. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 00:24:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F5CCABC2C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 132691FF5 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id c7so1392495itd.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:24:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GiIbTHQWe3aB1Dq/hSSvKPs0Z0x1eYGatLUbN7MDD5k=; b=bz0pMnhU/wVHeZOYmbOVwOY87W6dM4RmMkpmHqxMlg9jA/eccHYUDm1k84f+KyvgZY 2K/iXtMJQvIeQUyfPWFQ1YDc+fdVT5r/i05WqUpunKOlZfOplrSpMKaRnD+SzFLv2ofO WlreRMaD/UaNdTbraPEEFEUe4iF8ZJNnkgbotNRX07bvMuXaizUDQ+VDkT7X8dTUObDp znhfNaDSHoa+5MNcQ3RHrSwsv60usF27y3JCSaSnmHBxj1MOcrtiNAK0aAFI9AO3YNSE y34lBNFdOGXVN2sktki6avZ/mJbVeYVaUmk871feX9hraObGSf2hNdp2Go1B5QEhuNk6 xGdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=GiIbTHQWe3aB1Dq/hSSvKPs0Z0x1eYGatLUbN7MDD5k=; b=VPGFy2JSyCCgCZGS7uZwESfrBQycmrxTuwSegZmNidoSkoRjRgSTHkpozjRd0Bx9jM HLVp1wH9xAEw2I8hDsLhcIv1Zwt7SbaJyH4n5as9HbvkLRE9R/Q4YID8NEFwhUShTx6I BSRSaZGw5FnJZ9IZhwQIYUYh6tapBcqwQ+2uM/U3+bQeKGQlhGIXb0Uf2Yixw02Y8uSc COankUudxe9PmiKenMK3bIaXG0pmicHoArLSHbSaXHtZ3+albER3GrHnkSEH+Wu9Nlgc GlVy6xCZs8fADFdb0kjrg6/TjY/vc2x3ZX0/uguLFIrgVadqWG4ncU4T2j2zjzTyDc7H VpZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKnwwDpqW2wn8uImjSnEI+lntAFPH/4GenTPdl+h4EZeEyzCZICWikbSjjoo2SKSzVz0raSKHHJtTQxEg== X-Received: by 10.36.88.65 with SMTP id f62mr8021994itb.89.1484180690167; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:24:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.125.132 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:24:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> From: Kurt Buff Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:24:49 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:24:51 -0000 Snippety snip... On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 14:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 >> "Russell L. Carter" wrote: >> most of it botnet sourced. I've pretty much eliminated it now by a >> combination of installing dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin (reduced >> the spam getting through by 70% or so) and adding a backup MX with a free >> service that only accepts messages to relay when the primary is down (it's >> amazing how much spam stopped coming in when I did that). >> > > I'm not sure what you mean here, can you elaborate a bit more? I can > do anything I like with my MX hosts so I'm game. I *think* I'm > already doing that. I have multiple domains, and so I have a primary > MX and a couple of backup MX hosts (one of which is effectively a > passive dovecot replicator, lordy that works fantastic). The backup > MX hosts are lower priority than the primary. Are you doing something > different? A secondary MX that refuses mail when the primary is up and running foils one of the favorite tactics of spammers - they will often target the secondary MX because those are often not as up to date with anti-spam measures. Most spambots try one MX, one time only. Many spambots will try that secondary MX, get refused with a 4xx error, and not bother to try the primary MX at all. It can be a big win, in the right situation. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 01:34:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31ADCAA8A2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC46110DC for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 36B9FBFEE; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:34:28 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484184868; bh=LBVSttTISrjX/Vh6s/llLiTq2YBejI2NM7tS4dGFqBM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YnsVgm3ApMbHA+sY9F6fQ/9PT43Ol7jgeSA+AAnapqQ6MVW/yw59KaEgR1RobXcgz kpwzjHXswLOLf7f7W/JCm78y9o2xGFW8EtB3XOr98VQ3wVfTgONpfvGrVmmcvgFal/ SGw7MqErnNg7uY8Ti3WlvEXAeSwrbq+vFU+aeZWU= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3822BFD6 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:34:26 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484184866; bh=LBVSttTISrjX/Vh6s/llLiTq2YBejI2NM7tS4dGFqBM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=VALZZbmuJOOxbrJclq6dv6/HQZvlZZ4LIH7Y7jG8aZNJuYIIa6D7gA+CF+LJV63rA pz9f8b/i3QBvvxQAhycHTwNcLr/IywV1FAQXTFP5j1rbCVBGVMb9rzVrQLfL1ZmMDg QxeKFj0XcFbl3hHLVMh8Y25Cc0i9yaZUVgKPGpto= Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:34:26 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:34:30 -0000 On 01/11/17 17:24, Kurt Buff wrote: > Snippety snip... > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> On 01/11/17 14:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 >>> "Russell L. Carter" wrote: >>> most of it botnet sourced. I've pretty much eliminated it now by a >>> combination of installing dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin (reduced >>> the spam getting through by 70% or so) and adding a backup MX with a free >>> service that only accepts messages to relay when the primary is down (it's >>> amazing how much spam stopped coming in when I did that). >>> >> >> I'm not sure what you mean here, can you elaborate a bit more? I can >> do anything I like with my MX hosts so I'm game. I *think* I'm >> already doing that. I have multiple domains, and so I have a primary >> MX and a couple of backup MX hosts (one of which is effectively a >> passive dovecot replicator, lordy that works fantastic). The backup >> MX hosts are lower priority than the primary. Are you doing something >> different? > > A secondary MX that refuses mail when the primary is up and running > foils one of the favorite tactics of spammers - they will often target > the secondary MX because those are often not as up to date with > anti-spam measures. Most spambots try one MX, one time only. > > Many spambots will try that secondary MX, get refused with a 4xx > error, and not bother to try the primary MX at all. > > It can be a big win, in the right situation. Ah. Awesome. How do I do that? Russell > > Kurt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 04:05:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FCFCABD19 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22d.google.com (mail-it0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA9AE1085 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id x2so1306697itf.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:05:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZcB3VWaGy8eeMqO8Oh1pyycsoiOL0dspGdC2lbnE+sg=; b=KLuoKX5pcT27q+CYHj7NYjiFs2qg/DiyIfIMif6B2gmoxpx0/+e8/EwxY+usyq9+MQ tH3vrErGnB8jeN9UuGOuXzuA32TxbUO3OBp57aRAmWn7Os5xz1tFSi6f8anLor1QBat2 eVPft2vWxyqbfrJ8Vj6xVENOkbA0OuRguIiG9UYLc57vvaVdeGKPgIqoT6LMdKmpSydn DD/3vuROPH+NqDgNlwxgZ4rBWc9azeN1QdH4pCFuk4VjcOXIfSFDA9CFq7eXbxagTKhn kHUPTCrYiVsS4QAfmvRO9OkfrBLTU+qna1lOZHwDMuYensTETOBV0rw9Fg2/oK7xgO86 ZmUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ZcB3VWaGy8eeMqO8Oh1pyycsoiOL0dspGdC2lbnE+sg=; b=hQqfqIFWi8XlQ5oDoJQqiqYkNur8IOvRr5hr47OFVf4GLk3U2CiG3mpLExl/uuQ+ls oQeHn4hcJ17wTVIWRfpcxZ3j4p1ISKheQ5hFt+Tehsdn7TVTRGZ71gFwx/J4ZYdIaOvK SmC2X4IcxddnYZ4bF4xnLoeV322JEiDP4D1J2aKgE3cL/cwsAH7lFFR7/S1m3VADDpQ4 XXf1qtbaoczcst+xarnxsCCLS4LO9PM8kirM2FghzCanM71ncz1zvey2eaYeDSQOk85p uv6R5cQGCkqreEt2udoQAEakwJsAxVN1Ayva6PuYJ6FGu86qtzqkR0qEE8m+AO7j3gaS 32MQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJkzlJ5OEmDdgCVSaOBgBAbTPIjfFlvVjYQyh3NyvJtBgN1hcpRb77VGoJZG5/Bv8l3dOo/ZO8lC7Xvow== X-Received: by 10.36.88.65 with SMTP id f62mr8688050itb.89.1484193949997; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:05:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.125.132 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:05:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> From: Kurt Buff Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:05:49 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:05:51 -0000 On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 17:24, Kurt Buff wrote: >> >> Snippety snip... >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Russell L. Carter >> wrote: >>> >>> On 01/11/17 14:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 >>>> "Russell L. Carter" wrote: >>>> most of it botnet sourced. I've pretty much eliminated it now by a >>>> combination of installing dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin (reduced >>>> the spam getting through by 70% or so) and adding a backup MX with a >>>> free >>>> service that only accepts messages to relay when the primary is down >>>> (it's >>>> amazing how much spam stopped coming in when I did that). >>>> >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean here, can you elaborate a bit more? I can >>> do anything I like with my MX hosts so I'm game. I *think* I'm >>> already doing that. I have multiple domains, and so I have a primary >>> MX and a couple of backup MX hosts (one of which is effectively a >>> passive dovecot replicator, lordy that works fantastic). The backup >>> MX hosts are lower priority than the primary. Are you doing something >>> different? >> >> >> A secondary MX that refuses mail when the primary is up and running >> foils one of the favorite tactics of spammers - they will often target >> the secondary MX because those are often not as up to date with >> anti-spam measures. Most spambots try one MX, one time only. >> >> Many spambots will try that secondary MX, get refused with a 4xx >> error, and not bother to try the primary MX at all. >> >> It can be a big win, in the right situation. > > > Ah. Awesome. How do I do that? > > Russell As Steve O'Hara Smith wrote, there are free services that can do that. Perhaps he can mention which one he uses. But, if you have a spare public IP address, I suppose you could set up another MX with postfix and have it respond to all inbound with a 4xx. Greylisting, as someone else mentioned, is probably a really good alternative - that responds with a temp fail message, and again most spambots won't try again. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 04:29:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB4CAC5A1 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5CDA1CAB for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cRX18-000618-Bw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:29:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cRX1n-0000LC-0m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:30:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:29:32 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-Id: <20170112042932.8122cad1de2080563f36b801@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <8016faa3-5af4-6c2d-acdf-9b02f7f1afc8@pinyon.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:29:49 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:05:49 -0800 Kurt Buff wrote: > As Steve O'Hara Smith wrote, there are free services that can do that. > Perhaps he can mention which one he uses. I use the one provided by junkemailfilter.com, they provide two backup MXs the first accepts mail only when the primary MX is down, the second is a pure honey trap. I have no connection with them and no reason to believe their service is any better than any of the others around but I'm happy with it and the price is right. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 12:26:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1607DCAAF16 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s17.hotmail.com [65.54.190.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF1010FA for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR01-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.124]) by BAY004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:25:41 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=E/u2F8gsJuq4OK1p0v+vGxHsGLu/7wu2JhiM93Hting=; b=tfKr/4Qoi4rcd03rYpZun30mNGsk/CP+/Fhhda3zRYd4vKOyIQ2GT1FHnGJ+0AVdG3eZ2jDe7h0cQB1T0wFW8gje/jNI0GHzeDF1YigtzN/SXWbBDMr7ANZFz8sITO8A2c7mrwsMvqLafADlrrdQggRTs8Dac43z4hFOiWL45RnwRs3dgsLP4huWGdbZBVGBxK7rM7RemN28bkaOoOKnN7YbSs71m+eE78jcCAEaTit2DHUd1q0ztN2Df7fggxkj+L/9MVcp/qnBFEgkYJHfIwa8ALUA13+b7aM/yd1rQfSYKLX0LlAFxJlUtN3Bp6MypN7di+ptzmqv3Ou2e38FBA== Received: from HE1EUR01FT023.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.0.58) by HE1EUR01HT022.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.0.219) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.789.10; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:25:39 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.152.0.51) by HE1EUR01FT023.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.0.162) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.803.8 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:25:39 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) by VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) with mapi id 15.01.0845.014; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:25:39 +0000 From: Manish Jain To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Thread-Topic: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? 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Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 12:27:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072B7CAAF9D for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+12001@bounce.crsend.com) Received: from mx011.de-mx.crsend.com (mx011.de-mx.crsend.com [178.77.121.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx011.de-mx.crsend.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A7411A4 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+12001@bounce.crsend.com) Received: from 008.de-mx.crsend.com (008.de-mx.crsend.com [178.77.121.174]) by mx011.de-mx.crsend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175395EAA04 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:27:04 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 mx011.de-mx.crsend.com 175395EAA04 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crsend.com; s=mail; t=1484224024; r=y; bh=c527NwvvTJFALiOxsaJKXKTrk+q14MhN9hnepXCn6yk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type: From; b=UYHW5NERB4IjfoYu+kGyBWJo/JOAiPFIHonCsveq9A7n5XrW2JhmZB54/v4ZYHBQJ I0wwuTTjg2N/7cE+IVCGstZ5dz0meNJFLCHDU7gQnb3GIqPMKAuIBz3+SCwlmMQ7GA /AsqVaV4CktOj58v2SC5UDiFI+bcvvI8C+wXMIiQ= Received: from localhost (cron-eu.crsend.com [178.77.121.134]) by 008.de-mx.crsend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EF367409F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:26:54 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 008.de-mx.crsend.com 39EF367409F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crsend.com; s=mail; t=1484224014; r=y; bh=c527NwvvTJFALiOxsaJKXKTrk+q14MhN9hnepXCn6yk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type: From; b=WrmUZB4e+WVJZEQ5IbCYXCup4q6fQbQbMZl21PlgEKy054tLRg0Rdt5X8fiZ8Oqg/ QG3XpqRrSRGEIw+rgjEMv7fSfo1c4E7LxjOQNdjSDaDZZvyr1FIWsp4/Ob+3fQlJg2 QZlwW74ZMKehdUcmnkflQ6fXZkfmolrmuAWvWpQU= Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:26:54 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Fotopica International GmbH Subject: Weltneuheit Motto Becher Message-ID: X-client: 12001 X-mailing: 10985258 X-customer: 37386 X-email: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-CSA-Complaints: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:27:11 -0000 SWhyIEUtTWFpbCBQcm9ncmFtbSB1bnRlcnN0dWV0enQgbGVpZGVyIGtlaW5lIEhUTUwgRS1NYWls cy4gCgpIaWVyIGZpbmRlbiBTaWUgZGllc2VuIE5ld3NsZXR0ZXIgb25saW5lOgpodHRwOi8vMTIw MDEuc2V1LmNsZXZlcnJlYWNoLmNvbS9tLzEwOTg1MjU4LzAtZDJkZDM3N2M1YjJiMWViOTk2MDU2 N2NiOWY0ZmY3YzgKCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 13:06:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B221FCAB133 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED9E1BB4 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cRf59-0004YI-Bb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:06:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:06:19 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-ID: <20170112130619.GA13786@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:06:27 -0000 El día Thursday, January 12, 2017 a las 12:25:38PM +0000, Manish Jain escribió: > > Hi, > > Replying to posts at freebsd-questions, I often need to yank out the > recipient email addresses and the subject being referred to. Yeo, MUA 'mutt' which supports 'list-reply' (letter 'l') and sends the reply only to the list. Why will you 'yank out the subject'? You should not. 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Please let me know your thoughts, Thanks, Katie Martin Database Consultant If you don't want to include yourself in our mailing list, please reply bac= k "Leave Out" in a subject line From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 13:23:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54396CAB9CF for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp206.alice.it (smtp206.alice.it [82.57.200.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE49D17A8 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.52.25.226) by smtp206.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 58760B3A002F10F7; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:16:48 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0CDGfDq011396; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:16:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? To: Manish Jain , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:16:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:23:04 -0000 On 01/12/17 13:25, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi, > > Replying to posts at freebsd-questions, I often need to yank out the > recipient email addresses and the subject being referred to. > > I currently use thunderbird for email, but am wondering if there is an What's wrong with ThunderBird's "Reply List" or "Reply All" buttons? bye av. 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Thread-Topic: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? 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Hi Andrea, That works nicely (like for responding to your message), but only when=20 the post has been addressed/cc'ed to you. If not, getting the addresses=20 and subject set up needs a lot of copy/paste. roberthuff@rcn.com says it is possible to burst the digest. I will=20 probably have to google that. Thanks for replying. 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Thread-Topic: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? 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But that sounds > like an issue someone of your experience would understand and have > solved. > If I'm wrong about the latter: > 1) There's a way to "burst" a digest in Thunderbird. I don't > remember /how/ off the top of my head, but I know I can do it. If you > don't like the native method Google reports at least one add-on. > 2) My default client is VM under emacs, which can burst a > digest in no more than three keystrokes. > I assume other modern clients can handle this as well. > =09 > Or am I completely misunderstanding? You got it spot on. I want to break up the digest into component mails=20 so that responding to a particular post becomes easier when the post has=20 not been addressed/cc'ed to you, only to the list. Following a google search based on your suggestion, I have this - There is a Thunderbird add-on Undigestify which does that job by=20 resending the mails individually to you. So I have an answer there. Thanks for replying. 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Message-ID: <20170112144859.59a26366@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <22647.32558.161082.682351@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:49:04 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:58:51 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > > You got it spot on. I want to break up the digest into component > mails so that responding to a particular post becomes easier when the > post has not been addressed/cc'ed to you, only to the list. Why are you using digests? Digests are about the most inconvenient way there is to to read or post to a mailing list. I'd suggest that you subscribe to the actual list, organize your mail a bit better and file individual mails into folders. As separate emails they can be threaded. Alternately you can read and post to most unix/FOSS lists by NNTP on news.gmane.org. Thunderbird supports news accounts. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 15:16:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9426CAC696 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EAB31387 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id r144so4385892wme.0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:16:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=onfWtB62mVv40gwDFqzuJCZUKqCuvkxDXTcy+tP4YLo=; b=XTzX/aWavn0DolG47cPvKgLh1AGTfpXMeVAloktmWrTfiv4nldb+6FEryJxukNaW76 2J9KSLB6fcLukvmw0uYt383ZwIatAt+VVeubWI8vAAoKffF1+IGkkDq7AW5DYdEZqbBs BYeMJkt+TXqMkn91M9krgDr5aE3P28IP7seqkAzMpcw7vc+cr2UPQa3wDez4pTqgvRT/ U/KCrBLIq/428/ExcKoenm30NGSQtGTwGpyTHA50JEgPH/lJHNtny7ePXzwkAB/dIuK/ omNzq4Y39ncyiZmEyeTmIUjQIUWrj058vrYZmiV1bMqsaEKIWUFD/Ki7HnovEcwcAaOd KS2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=onfWtB62mVv40gwDFqzuJCZUKqCuvkxDXTcy+tP4YLo=; b=RR4M+Hnzw6nBxj3bURVOdJv4+NHuysiWnBbv/y6R7MrzPPAp1WIHmzjKUR0ECsD10Q 8B93PhBiieaVZKOE+LksZSAxGuebapw1ItgYHtJrKkzNEco1LmhTAo06gUCAzaWSo10I K0wxBF7BeKGoyjYcPLMHIpmr7db05GDDtvoHa9+4fpfyCx6XyCRL4HEWWrsr1YoA/sDB UIQP1tx2Ah2glMR4MzYkZaCVN5xpPHIBvVTlJTZ9Zj42i8HvCvfX/v857SZo/jf9xHD7 zpKAsUvVFzyrGyRcZPP1AGv8hf8FpYTP6141lRazDa1SpA3EXAkqKFXHom6Une1EDwe7 hCOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJafUG31FMBIaZZtSd7i2Kg8tfXbBRUh8lyk3xSbvWI5wZ7Eo7OUMDW0cySxs/okQ== X-Received: by 10.28.94.10 with SMTP id s10mr8303419wmb.1.1484234185339; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w8sm3659422wmw.4.2017.01.12.07.16.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:16:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:16:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-ID: <20170112151622.40493b27@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:16:27 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:45:47 -0700 Russell L. Carter wrote: > Howdy, > > I've been happy using postfix+spamassassin for a long long > time, and it's always worked great. However in the last > few weeks it's not been scoring spam high enough, and in the > last 10 days the spam is getting through in a torrent. I > see a lot of scores in the 1-2 range, for what is obviously > spam. I'm not really comfortable setting the threshold to > 1, say. It sounds like you are either not using Bayes or it's not working well. If you use Bayes with auto-training it is liable to go "off the rails". If you're just filtering your own mail the best thing to do is to turn-on Bayes, turn-off auto-training, and train manually (running sa-learn as the correct unix user). Another thing is that if you do spam filtering, you should run your own non-forwarding DNS resolver. Shared caches can get blacklisted by domain and IP blocklists because they can go over the usage limit for a single IP address. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 15:17:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5479CAC7BC for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37D45169E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:19:33 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A7083CC3F; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0CFH79K002112; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-Id: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 19FA7683427 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1991 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:17:17 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:25:38 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > Replying to posts at freebsd-questions, I often need to yank out the > recipient email addresses and the subject being referred to. That shouldn't be needed. The mail client should handle the recipient information (To: and Cc: headers) just fine, and the Subject: header should have only one (!) Re: prefix since the first reply. Most modern programs like Thunderbird, Sylpheed and Opera Mail (and even the "old fashioned" ones like alpine and mutt) will have no problem with that part. > I currently use thunderbird for email, but am wondering if there is an > email client which understands the list messages as separate actionable > emails. They actually _are_ separate actionable messages. You can usually switch between "message vies" and "thread view"; in Sylpheed, it's Ctrl+T. On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply to mailing list". I found that on _this_ particular list, "Reply to all" is preferred, so someone who asks a question can receive feedback even when he's not subscribed to the list, or receives the list in daily / weekly / monthly digests. > If such exists, replying to a post could be as trivial as just > clicking a button with recipient addresses and subject already set up. That's what I'm doing for probably 10 years now. :-) Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. It's a lightweight and powerful GUI mail client with all the neccessary functions, it's customizable (e. g., display and create messages as plain text, not as HTML garbage) and can be easily integrated with sendmail / fetchmail / POP / SMTP and IMAP. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 16:35:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2A8CAC2D3 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B651603 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1484238751; bh=OvxjlmDcW7/zu56eDJx81SFoPOo047g3D9AavLM4HLk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=K+PFvLxx6aN4Gknfspb+xj+ZyaBG515wXmyI8g7IkGmvchsgmttrzksG8vcBbjhwlEY2mjuekYuV0yPo8ttFa1taz+BIJQfAM6XnNyT7ErWn4L1m7HIk0sGx3bH0RbZa6LznoMDMsu3vT43E+J/3dT81HnTRJ19vsJTpGe3OPwuRzUMG5sBaJ5x7c+kYBOBZVgeDlkP33RaVQQXs0zhTt3RuoTWvLHGoc/bNELGJTdovqDhwClhxowMp5i2iUTWPr9dskAhTPhN3u9pHSUKkL2gb6c/lcmk5nsSDpBaQhZKJROECTlsN656nm9IFVvwp4F9cJgpeJqlgfdTtTkMUKQ== Received: from [212.82.98.58] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:32:31 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.73] by tm11.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:32:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 15:45:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 650265.90672.bm@smtp110.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _ofxdEUVM1nLTeeWFWKLHKvY1nYkmcZUr4zrsNKaUGf6Pvg GIMSe9Jdy2sE53a1MR53oAhTRqnhQKfzX1_gp9RPLsvTRWc4cHt4rM4957OI 1Afn3xcUILJK22gqXAs5sDkyGEYBtx45NMzwU2JyNSFKyBbghqJMEVNmdbKa UkYhqsslVOR03uo2bcVBCwFXchzdXn8p77yiEq15PDr.kVmIEmV7OCEsA.T9 ji20QqZ6qoaXxj1wiG6Lw3E3NrgkGQyGpZ26xdce4dqkAyYV67uq4Ah3X8Bw tnu0CeW.V3IujKopiOBw.Ma478MyTj0znGLIe5Z5IajpGBT.5gj_ZfdfYoFr JX1Dbi91jZnJ79jgTHmJEbOxFYiW6sENYhpCdRvkTD3ilsQqvQTLIaFZJA3U JKx1F77pA2ucwU.5ujD98zA1VG4DmNQodmXmSfeVihuYbWccz.O5tPc0mjxH LgL0HwxriNfCdW3NXDbqEbQv60jczsChjhHw5Qz5jU2geiXyGbJIxxMKON5P S9fzsyrJNbXWQ99qasPtObLMcPw1pQszsDMzPOsLhvpBCY6J5nSXiDEtFJb3 YtAxVNcr1f63iqfylyYbfCJ9VBQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-ID: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:23 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply >to mailing list". > >Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. Evolution OTOH invokes mailing list replies by "Reply to all". MUAs invoking mailing list replies by "Reply to all" only reply to the mailing list, but Claws does reply to the mailing list, as well as CC'ing to Reply-To: Polytropon if I use Claws-Mail's "Reply" (invoking a mailing list reply) or "Reply to Mailing list" option. The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the mailing list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman lists sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon from the CC address bar. Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add the mailing list address manually. Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the behaviour of different MUAs. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 16:47:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D125ACAC838 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm2-vm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502061E1E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1484239469; bh=6LFhqW1oKtLOEt/lBgcelGUESLUw1KBIPxjWIMleukk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=uflCFU1iGQ9hMAiI4HofFcCytrQdcuxXwIjVQ1IlfH0VuzV9RsbsTS9Of8lpqClwWqVXoahMHu9vMACoLSWzVrSRZQ/LmUaw0VGnv+ukDfPD2Cn+/3s7dX+B4Ve7Xz1o0ZiqeB7tpNT4N6XgHOKGeIYNicu7pbnBW9YnGUM6RdjDgSxsOHlYoZUGivhVnuT1E3GGlDfWOd3tTDaD7kMC4eBtNkLUe5eUkExtgsswUGrNKkjetw5DnvAdoOxSLPHji1n4TLHRi57bQ8ssMkl13TJUkq/CoXS0wtyD7etNGywcqPxwceopPTepGvs8aF0QydiesbMMdvGmxMZYiXBSQg== Received: from [212.82.98.52] by nm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:44:29 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.88] by tm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 16:44:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 15:55:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 252483.45513.bm@smtp125.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: e_IsUC0VM1lcJKUfIzUbQYaj8BxXcq7TBd0QbToyaBKAE8z VEDaGVkJp.9Svkp_u2hqXHqphym8XQuwhJdphnhk88NIMdSNUsYM31W1cVsg tdSGyYeI3XZfyFnfK0bYaQaChqdGnhTIsLm0Y_ISwycN82f0wJehO7pjvdQF yqAxoDbtMLTA2cwx8ywvJ5v74FXjh_R7lWonzUONZ_nR.G9WWR4aCe46.uLO _OvGfcfHm0Yo3N4pHRpGOBZdX31rBDY8yAF5_c5g4oD8.Xps1rl_rAssSfzd ZpYoAMiXFkAcJkhxwBSFanOSe3Xl7FUL.SADl24XXXIJ3yyJ6UQz1onYduLM saMPbRhQpsyivNED9iR2F0hQXhB3dviz_ZNxb2HMKwK2PnXZfcCm6j.hk4XI mfZcKcH6BSvoCA2iRN9aryThVqWeNjKSugRC54RlABJ_RvZdbsDugQwCAYdt J0soZzBFY67PddTP_0C1p9PNdLaVLw8jOBLvInVgLJY.Kfe3NidoOCZs5xqh VWlyGNUZLcC8Qvw3oBg1oIwfIHnLBKMETU1hp7ucXVHrbvNM7Iu5sFOfkIC. QQSHliHT1Aco.amEh3TR18uyK7Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:55:47 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-ID: <20170112165547.097193be@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:47:46 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >>On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply >>to mailing list". >> >>Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. > >Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" >and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, >depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the >mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact >that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. Evolution >OTOH invokes mailing list replies by "Reply to all". MUAs invoking >mailing list replies by "Reply to all" only reply to the mailing list, >but Claws does reply to the mailing list, as well as CC'ing to > >Reply-To: Polytropon > >if I use Claws-Mail's "Reply" (invoking a mailing list reply) or "Reply >to Mailing list" option. > >The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD >does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the >mailing list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman >lists sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the >original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. > >The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon > from the CC address bar. > >Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by >using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately >would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since >mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply >to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add >the mailing list address manually. > >Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply >possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't >understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the >behaviour of different MUAs. PS: Correction. Evolution distinguishes between "Group reply" and "Reply all". Not "Reply all", but "Group reply" invokes a mailing list reply. Anyway, it doesn't matter since the issue I'm referring to is related to those MUAs, that can invoke mailing list replies by "Reply". From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 16:48:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79578CAC8CC for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BA6F1EF0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id XUn81u00807iGuj01Un9DT; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:47:09 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 12454 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:47:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:47:08 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Damien Fleuriot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain Message-ID: <20170112164708.GA73939@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:48:21 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Thanks for the additional input Roland. >=20 > I currently have my eye on shells/lshell, which we use here on > 10-STABLE for PCI-DSS compliance (restricting and logging commands). In this case you might want to look at auditing; https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/audit.html While the handbook explains how it works, I haven't really found good examp= les of its use. > It so happens the current (0.9.16_2) version on FreeBSD suffers from a > nasty case of shell escape : > https://github.com/ghantoos/lshell/issues/151 > root:~$ echo () sh && echo > # > ^-- uh oh... Oops. Looking at the discussion of the issue, I get the impression that there are some fundamental problems with the way lshell parses and executes commands. > I cannot seem to reproduce when using the latest master branch, and am > seeking confirmation in the bug thread that I'm actually trying to > reproduce correctly. > > If it should transpire that the problem is indeed fixed in the master, > I shall try and update the port to the latest version. The port now uses SourceForge, which is getting a bad reputation these days for adding crap to binary installers. This is probably not an issue with tarballs, but it makes me wonder if they are still trustworthy. You might want to consider switching to github. If you do, read /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk on how to properly do that in the port Makefile. 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Abdulla Member Foreign Economic Relations Directorate (FERD) B= uilding 100, Road 1702, Block 317, PO Box 333, Diplomatic Area Manama, Kin= gdom of Bahrain Tel; (011 973) -16,199093 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 17:39:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EF2CACF7A for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CFDC15EE for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:40:46 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7B53CC42; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0CHd1or003003; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-Id: <20170112183901.5df2b5fa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 0766369041F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2425 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:11 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > >On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply > >to mailing list". > > > >Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. > > Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" > and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, > depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the > mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact > that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. That is correct. Actually Sylpheed has four "reply modes", if my observation is correct: Reply -> reply to Reply-To: address, or to From: address if no Reply-To: address is specified Reply to sender -> reply to From: address explicitely Reply to list -> reply to Cc: address(es), usually the list Reply to all -> reply both to Reply-To: (or From:) _and_ Cc: address(es) On this mailing list, I've read the suggestion several times that "reply all" is preferred, so that users who write a question to the list without being subscribed to the list can receive answers directly, and still the list will get the reply for the subscribers. > The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD > does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the mailing > list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman lists > sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the > original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. > > The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon > from the CC address bar. That is correct so far. :-) > Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by > using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately > would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since > mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply > to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add the > mailing list address manually. I think that's what the "reply to list" function is intended for. Personally, I have no problem with (sometimes) receiving replies two times, I just continue using the mailing list message so the message IDs and thread information is kept. > Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply > possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't > understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the > behaviour of different MUAs. Yes, there are several such aspects that depend on mailing list user preference ("we prefer 'reply to all'" or "only reply to the list"), and mailing list system configuration (dealing with sender information, From: and Reply-To: headers). It is not possible to automatically find out which aspects apply to a certain mailing list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 18:51:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668B5CABB3C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C7231A03 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id v0CIpJVZ070510 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:51:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Gary Aitken Subject: ramifications of tweaks to subject line Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:51:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:51:21 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:51:32 -0000 Can someone summarize the ramifications of tweaking the subject line in a post? Assume: Some-original-subject Normal reply yields: Re: Some-original-subject If a reply is made and the subject line is (mistake, whatever) trashed, then manually re-inserted, does re: Some-original-subject (change in case of Re) preserve threading? Does change in case of words in subject line preserve threading? More generally, what permutations of the original text still preserve threading -- addition/deletion of various kinds of white-space, etc. Is threading solely in the domain of the mail reader, or is there something in the header besides the text of the header itself that aids threading? If a subject digresses and one changes the subject line to Re: New-subject (was: Some-original-subject) is threading preserved? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 19:01:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95022CABF8C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karly@kipshouse.net) Received: from mgmt.ironboy.kipshouse.net (ironboy.kipshouse.net [IPv6:2001:470:835a:4242::42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx.kipshouse.net", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 440A21223 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karly@kipshouse.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=kipshouse.org; i=@kipshouse.org; q=dns/txt; s=kh-ss; t=1484247691; x=1515783691; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; z=Date:=20Thu,=2012=20Jan=202017=2010:36:32=20-0800|From: =20Karl=20Young=20|To:=20Gary=20Aitk en=20|Cc:=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20 List=20|Subject:=20Re:=20r amifications=20of=20tweaks=20to=20subject=20line |Message-ID:=20<20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse. net>|References:=20|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20; bh=v9OTlphR+S0Ea+HU/6s/pC2dNRExKfbggPi3RFhWG8g=; b=tUv3CO2vttPqVIg6R0ySclPcRMVVo4alFlaKnFR2MlEPDwRzku0SMqC2 pfYHs/MwkwNdh6ZuIu44MrMK51F0HEF+VibebNvOeYe54Qy7AIT4yvji+ Aay5tMV8wjNl1DP+bpZ7lOZRc3meldbu9mpTuuDgZgZ3GxmR1mo7Ha0lx qiFmLAg8dinV0joq6PGA03FVsRXEs9DN4q9HU7rgkf6W4gW0Ik2voO4wW rkeja9v22NHnEYHB14FSUrMrip/xKXpPVSuqL439abn4g51V8kjuESMyR HsCOoMpBGb+eY9F5mWh8ELurXpkmR2NeOgdirOe/G1XnK1DKqmNvKwZsr w==; Authentication-Results: d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=None smtp.pra=karly@kipshouse.org; spf=None smtp.mailfrom=karly@kipshouse.net; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of karly@kipshouse.org) identity=pra; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="karly@kipshouse.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of karly@kipshouse.net) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net) identity=helo; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-SBRS: None X-MID: 231319 X-RemoteIP: 2001:470:835a:1010::26 X-RemoteHost: 2001:470:835a:1010::26, mailboypriv.kipshouse.net X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5700,7163,8406"; a="231319" Received: from mailboypriv.kipshouse.net (HELO mailboy.kipshouse.net) ([IPv6:2001:470:835a:1010::26]) by d2.ironport.kipshouse.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2017 11:01:30 -0800 Received: by mailboy.kipshouse.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id F24A943F91; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:36:32 -0800 From: Karl Young To: Gary Aitken Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: ramifications of tweaks to subject line Message-ID: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.kipshouse.org/karly X-Work-URL: http://www.cisco.com/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:01:30 -0000 It depends on the MUA. I use Mutt, which uses the In-Reply-To header for threading, so changing the subject doesn't affect threading. I'm fairly certain that not all MUAs use this header, or even insert it. RFC2822 says: in-reply-to SHOULD occur in some replies - see 3.6.4 references SHOULD occur in some replies - see 3.6.4 -karl Gary Aitken(freebsd@dreamchaser.org)@2017.01.12 11:51:19 -0700: > Can someone summarize the ramifications of tweaking the subject line > in a post? > > Assume: > Some-original-subject > Normal reply yields: > Re: Some-original-subject > > If a reply is made and the subject line is (mistake, whatever) trashed, > then manually re-inserted, does > re: Some-original-subject > (change in case of Re) preserve threading? > Does change in case of words in subject line preserve threading? > More generally, what permutations of the original text still preserve > threading -- addition/deletion of various kinds of white-space, etc. > Is threading solely in the domain of the mail reader, or is there > something in the header besides the text of the header itself that > aids threading? > > If a subject digresses and one changes the subject line to > Re: New-subject (was: Some-original-subject) > is threading preserved? > > Thanks, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 20:08:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39017CAC5E6 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04D8D1E34 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id v96so27532453ioi.0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:08:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=X9X5MXIvk4BEl9b2xAjIQ9HDraQzaxZT5pXmkA5KqqU=; b=EEcPmxz4+PAUggf6Ok2oihLpyZcgKnJexsd/zIeh+9hVtJzkH4oS4sl2dA2nsSz8FU 8d6UrusfmxkZ2Y4+2JEVjOGWhli7Ko73qXawEM6uZV8w3CTbeB4oYUu+qB8m4t6uc4Xu +wp8uDm1mqSlBVLdo0rqRlizQECgrkacmCM7Kbv1nVq+5lWOM4uu220f+TbDkBGqPH/h ouz4LVg+lBPdGXwL5d6efP4LydH9Vum2/CaeWe1lQU+rwvSttJtkSg53GWzKcsMd7tXT L04zqqO96vKs0mdok+kB7ljbjIrhBXz8n+4KU96vn2puQGRfg2SFPFllaB2RvvAoFizk VyWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=X9X5MXIvk4BEl9b2xAjIQ9HDraQzaxZT5pXmkA5KqqU=; b=U8diR6Pe2hKm06dovLsmTM2SE8pjiEHuHPlcjdS62rouVupfqMd4hy25MeE3nxtFtJ EqMJVNQHlbQVYPgg4J0bHfVuhZRMKwm+pVEMeg2eKLzDbC4UW2MB2+iRmUdbR29AXRpM x+yy7Jpe1D0yO2jM1W17P8uG1S+2u8yvnispoHHVA+PUU/rLyY+r1VClFuJtWYMLJ3au pLJYq/ZT/mxlS9yZ9ob37e3XVUHFESW7Nerj2G2vYbKWpM7EY5oOGBTuoDh5ZvmCC2z4 pB3HDnwc6xNLhOrImEqs1BRXZlHGkFQ8vCe0Eb6nUaXdDTIfAgwMh2J8GH+3Dcmib9t/ eDaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKP9uC/yySbkPBjTu0+GQtMvZPOiD3Q2BSdnBIa/y69pYGcvUrICFAA7cMghrNVhgnUshBPIA6n+jf8Wg== X-Received: by 10.107.50.147 with SMTP id y141mr10514467ioy.130.1484251731015; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:08:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.125.132 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:08:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Kurt Buff Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ramifications of tweaks to subject line To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:08:52 -0000 Gmail doesn't follow message headers for threading - it seems to use the subject line, though that looks problematic at times. But, changing the subject line guarantees that threading is lost to Gmail users. Possibly others as well. If the thread branches because the matter under discussion changes, then it's reasonable to change the subject line. Better for everyone, though, is to start a new thread, with a new message that isn't a reply-to or forward from the original thread, possibly using copy/paste of desired content. Kurt On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can someone summarize the ramifications of tweaking the subject line > in a post? > > Assume: > Some-original-subject > Normal reply yields: > Re: Some-original-subject > > If a reply is made and the subject line is (mistake, whatever) trashed, > then manually re-inserted, does > re: Some-original-subject > (change in case of Re) preserve threading? > Does change in case of words in subject line preserve threading? > More generally, what permutations of the original text still preserve > threading -- addition/deletion of various kinds of white-space, etc. > Is threading solely in the domain of the mail reader, or is there > something in the header besides the text of the header itself that > aids threading? > > If a subject digresses and one changes the subject line to > Re: New-subject (was: Some-original-subject) > is threading preserved? > > Thanks, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 20:21:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06695CACB92 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ua0-x242.google.com (mail-ua0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9F0D15A4 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-ua0-x242.google.com with SMTP id d5so2535860uag.0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:21:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OwccwWAehcn7tYbTTSbPHVyroplk2PvKm8nDMqgzZo0=; b=Wb5wSgZJRRcI1VEjmx++tPIQftXtFkyb59DRwU/bISKpq/B8tBSV5ySiSUOI+WJi4B ivC04kwJO/HKf2u9zhdJj6QEb2rbDe1MFM7UmvTjd8ivgsJ5Q/uGDM9JO4SZ/yj0gVQx A0qIjVVZbZFtXRbJpNza38ytpo4cpAQibguAu109lbIygxrK8kN7JNnbSlkwEMNa6h4E bXsq+hyNJQHakFf7zijk4i0bpa4Qg/3zMY7KqC1oT3bgjbB1q/tvl8KxM9UjkYVpf2vf AN1+RIlHhN7bEjvOuVE132eD2UP2XA0qiDUZbzHpXdkoE0InsuUNKgSTnqwold0jx7PY Ixcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=OwccwWAehcn7tYbTTSbPHVyroplk2PvKm8nDMqgzZo0=; b=tr9srSRurBq/1B2KXwM6NnVr2CBtL5yBqZeme4TGy1yVJA9rTJ7YFVtbHM8xU/txaU Lq5fv7VzlfhdQIy/DtBVpEPEROMLCiX9qgS80+cFt44W5cYcGqngvUgJyNDf4VzqpGoh S7uOVF3j6IXul26qaGICc4rXkdAiQxL9xF42IweK8OusjrJYab0DeXaIx2gr5rYtwFZ0 HsIcQsa3DGxf5kML8bNb3m2vNti7SoxTUFUG22rDXQff67apK4b7Dlp6p9XcRJahT8/H b/ItDxKXYBfxQYVKucejVSgxX0tC4ERXo4lARW1+I/cxFFLRdzCgN3Frh3GV6J+zPTfH Vecw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKnyVWomLVLU3fHDgRVBL89Z3rlC0pHBYbUU7aVW3f+eywoWQe9z13vzN5M354VT1zUCOLJ9Yfah9D1Tw== X-Received: by 10.176.1.119 with SMTP id 110mr7090862uak.143.1484252476767; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170112164708.GA73939@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20170112164708.GA73939@slackbox.erewhon.home> From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:21:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:21:18 -0000 On 12 January 2017 at 17:47, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Thanks for the additional input Roland. >> >> I currently have my eye on shells/lshell, which we use here on >> 10-STABLE for PCI-DSS compliance (restricting and logging commands). > > In this case you might want to look at auditing; > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/audit.html > > While the handbook explains how it works, I haven't really found good examples > of its use. > I thank you for the input and have indeed already looked at auditd. While it does provide very good logging, it only answers one of the prerequisites, logging, not actual command restriction. We do have another constraint which is that the software be portable to linux as well, so as to not maintain 2 different sets of logging/restriction stacks. >> It so happens the current (0.9.16_2) version on FreeBSD suffers from a >> nasty case of shell escape : >> https://github.com/ghantoos/lshell/issues/151 >> root:~$ echo () sh && echo >> # >> ^-- uh oh... > > Oops. > > Looking at the discussion of the issue, I get the impression that there are > some fundamental problems with the way lshell parses and executes commands. > Aye, bug reporter seems quite adamant that, quote, the software is entirely broken. >> I cannot seem to reproduce when using the latest master branch, and am >> seeking confirmation in the bug thread that I'm actually trying to >> reproduce correctly. >> >> If it should transpire that the problem is indeed fixed in the master, >> I shall try and update the port to the latest version. > > The port now uses SourceForge, which is getting a bad reputation these days > for adding crap to binary installers. This is probably not an issue with > tarballs, but it makes me wonder if they are still trustworthy. You might > want to consider switching to github. If you do, read > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk on how to properly do that in the port Makefile. > When (if) I manage to get Poudriere up and running (it's currently bitching about missing /usr/local/share/poudriere/jail.sh), I shall be able to submit run tests for a patched version of shells/lshell. The aim is to bring it up to upstream from github at version 0.9.18. Sadly lot of vulns were patched since 0.9.18 and there is no further release tag. I've asked for one today, wait and see. I shall take a look at bsd.sites.mk, I've currently put the actual URL in MASTER_SITES, but there may be a more elegant way such as using the GH macro. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 20:24:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB2ACACCEC for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 804EE1900 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1484252497; bh=vypVi+rjGRnYABQtoYRHJK9KLSaYuy89oHKIDvZBeXE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=kVGM1VFdxMbbGh+jpBx/WUW5/cxF3f2uOZNVbqDucIOc9eCl8LnsSy9fgSzNDOHmenRZF2VWVmOMzGOiVyQjLIozDrFJqSsHyFOq4v7/FwtlZCXf2G1/ODNbDNcOzqGpb2wNKmznE/LUjIN0T27Jy6XRF+dc0QkaGEIxGvKGx5MH+NMC+AeUoWlCz1dB7/sdduwoOC0/XNRgbeMkhNlBICDnVqIh2JUjHLCF4LW/tvojllNoDp6uc6m2wjxeVjVoEDfRDq372L+PrrM4f14Y7DTT8bKNouUYIiaIs8QupNIXfJvQxDFoKkYYFRD5inu4SYoMZFZIe5/1dp9mdq9+Kw== Received: from [212.82.98.51] by nm27.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 20:21:37 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.105] by tm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 20:21:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 20:19:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 102610.32148.bm@smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: alGVz30VM1nJRQjfU32RO5ORdEDqIJbSbgLIjqxVMIgDg.t 7bv4sfMSgkn0oeon3R3_cyiPGGXjQD5l4av6VffmHkGuyW.tGpobpTI7GXQr Ot6YMBGOLoqOYaXyop7Pvr2codrkdN.kfWCdXMnePHSWRMnQTxhSC5nMsXjA nex.7YM65Igr0O.AnkRa7Y98WAc4qZvK5.8Kx1V50MNgcTpopMDhwVDE1Nvn hZ9BiFifMxZduW40CxMOC9hxIgKirjkrHilspnPqftnJv21DSDPSBqUWGXp9 dw0xHEm98KxMhPo6vuO7N4DuIEUbEK.pfPX9gMjs_07ikYkyCQLAJ2zSEHlb xYP1YV4O9UGd8aPTiN8Irzoeu46zs3gYr_SxUiW2X7HRCladDzZBqSNYK4GO W_2ODtLCvzJ0jZZwSKaPNE6j6xGn2Pa7Tc2StnH0eBm0oXXCHBRE6niwq3P3 R7yJh5FnXmXDJLDs4iuKWxwa9fHCuqJUz1L9K6sr_IMgZrM2ksWFOkOuWr2O OylTa80SZgNCfmOJ.4RUUxu3a0sntJA1P.n9xxMKao6O_HXyFDxWPxDadRDu oA5GPrjgWaSiShXJd90bkqJvhxw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:19:12 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [no spam] ramifications_of_tweaks_to_subject_line :) - Was: ramifications of tweaks to subject line Message-ID: <20170112211912.1ca1a74e@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> References: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:24:18 -0000 Hi, I confirm Karl's reply regarding the headers. The thread is made of the email headers Message-ID In-Reply-To References so as a reference actually In-Reply-To References could be used. The subject has nothing to do with the thread. Some MUAs allow to fall back to the subject, trying to workaround broken threads. A thread is broken, if there should be something fishy with the mentioned headers. My apologies for deforming the subject, but this might demonstrate that the subject is irrelevant, if the thread isn't broken. I disagree with the claim that not all MUAs or even crappy web interfaces don't add the mentioned headers. There might be some exotic exceptions, but usually they are all doing the right thing. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 21:29:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509BCCAC900 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDE2A19F1 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id l2so6811208wml.2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4/+IY/ktVu4Kcb2ud7cyTMkaFDnKPRiuarlGxEZhtUA=; b=u2Lw+rDzy2ds2+lufSiVc7E77c1405NMGA1MEETs3G5bwpIcRJQhG5yG7kPZcrMYAC 5/n4XHwROSrhoMSHW9uWAP9QK/3r1KjYsf8Qr8A8vtMAXL4e2TkhirLiYWx/b3RyxHi+ dNJJ3sovXjj15wg4rFIoTskyysbjZVPuWVOIT4WajjU9mfGQvTKzngG9hkEyeMceAE1v otF3+o1uvEg8tMTi+iDjNxRnD7krubcNd7yh8NJRsFXB2khzn8WBkTFcHbKtjbBdj/MC uOpz8LpadFit0K77Iw/p8YRmaN9x86Ut8a7aZVZw3qKuZTfC/Bcjt34lHs7Pa73lGETy hx5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4/+IY/ktVu4Kcb2ud7cyTMkaFDnKPRiuarlGxEZhtUA=; b=Ta8kTC3uL5HSp9ZMkbwrbGhcYuuuT+FQZYiuw8sF73r8lVIvI3zG7PZgVqlwyMeueN 0ZvI6yyXDalfxjv1C4PfKxImjrYKPqQp/y1Dbl3nJHOH/faib9z7JtCP23xP+zI05vi4 4tzMF2U4KUJfaMPiDNNOFbVG3NmRwwQcBLX5ft0GG3DQG8owNzNQwzmAEAgEzRSG1RoP NY+JoPtF0fvmzjRx2s9dijHRpXQ9KIVJcB8J/cW0LI6WEMS+hYm/vqfD3TcZmBdGLMDY 207dDnPOml0jF+EovT4HKVkXYtYPCsB+tvOjfSUt5+ALoXSERM9cE+CqMwV8bdpny930 YW6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIxqGWChp7G+DQoM6kYGExEQTvPQ0coc5XvgUVDAQScM3kGAwtzgDKqSO4PylGsjQ== X-Received: by 10.28.92.21 with SMTP id q21mr104140wmb.71.1484256546104; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 204sm5666788wmj.7.2017.01.12.13.29.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:29:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:29:03 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [no spam] ramifications_of_tweaks_to_subject_line :) - Was: ramifications of tweaks to subject line Message-ID: <20170112212903.183c8015@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20170112211912.1ca1a74e@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> <20170112211912.1ca1a74e@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:29:09 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:19:12 +0100 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hi, > > I confirm Karl's reply regarding the headers. > > The thread is made of the email headers > > Message-ID > In-Reply-To > References > > so as a reference actually > > In-Reply-To > References > > could be used. The subject has nothing to do with the thread. Some > MUAs allow to fall back to the subject, trying to workaround broken > threads. A thread is broken, if there should be something fishy with > the mentioned headers. I don't know whether it's still the case, but there were some mail systems that didn't preserve the original Message-Id, so In-Reply-To and References could contain bogus values. There's a rather complicated document out there somewhere that details how to do robust threading that takes account of this, and it does include the subject. Whether any clients are still using this algorithm I don't know. > My apologies for deforming the subject, but this might demonstrate > that the subject is irrelevant, if the thread isn't broken. It demonstrates that an exact match on subject is not the sole mechanism, but we knew that anyway because that wouldn't allow for a "Re: " prefix, or sub-threads. Note that your modified subject ended in the original subject, like an ordinary reply would, just with a longer prefix. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 21:58:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504A5CADA2E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D51811FB for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 7CC1E1008D; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:58:11 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484258291; bh=lCxJD31VSzrJCKMChg/NdgE0SsHQHoX6pF+fGhOq73s=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Vnduw84llL9pCLT8qDV0Z9NkYZY/7VD7ouJ70SDcTcVEH989iucHWEZll69YeSGY2 AJubNpop9BbsppQ1Fp8dpF62unaWfmALpYxWkyeGz/l7OhPbKryyxw2sEzCF11Wfaf 9GpDqp0H3lzGlBNoyG5qA6RY1yxGOwpDmZgdZUSs= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on h2.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E7621007D for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:58:10 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1484258290; bh=lCxJD31VSzrJCKMChg/NdgE0SsHQHoX6pF+fGhOq73s=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CqwAtVatwvA8yxUCgPOzdBudUAi+sLI3nX/RZVp/0Lf++INJvvC/TK9jCv8w35oOy y17AjNRyo4e3dKCTqE6Ags3zUKY1MPNN1u32O+jHxSk4YIkhRJIHlaY2S/Uskf76Xl inKexSla+HhJcY1boo0qLjTC4Mroj2qeNGwoq4Lc= Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:58:10 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:58:18 -0000 On 01/11/17 16:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Wed, January 11, 2017 4:00 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Milter greylist also helps considerably >> > > I'm usually using sqlgrey for greylisting. In addition to that I'm using > amavisd (that harnesses spamassassin, clamav (and/or other anti-viruses, - > yes, I have windows people receiving their mail on our UNIX servers), and > variety of distributed spam signature databases. Also, in postfix > configuration (that we use as MTA) we add some RBLs: > > reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, > reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, > reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, > > I hope, this helps. I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, razor, and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't quite understand yet. I think I'll phase this stuff in, with greylisting first, and see what happens to the spam flow for each step. I am a little wary of putting even more chunks of perl and python into the critical path. Thanks a lot for the help, everyone. Russell (I just had a sad laugh recalling that I used to set up a mail server in 1995 using sendmail... and nothing else but exmh as the client) > Valeri > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 22:27:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C84CAD88C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from motty.cruz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x236.google.com (mail-pf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7AEC1511 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from motty.cruz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 127so19389311pfg.1 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:thread-index :content-language; bh=SRthiWm5GYHCGUUh0wiTZy7EIfLDJkh2fFLyFakN9pM=; b=EuIljA/G/07nJco6M3WukDku7Q2f20Yr2wV/KP3AAhK13uJw0QGgRZTC+auAB3j65N 04qtfFexipCAVTHiBQJMXElWF3HWNo442JyG7XLnL4nODdNmoFKbfpdZhFLrFrvFwGh7 MGqHuSMVM6CGfl9sFqOidpFGJidFgqCPk2IGD5RHc5tBj/zVZyRhuOM7+FLD/G/BLRKY qx16R8Kds6CHhgciDIAn4t6F7HN+KQqdJPn0KzZOCLCJJeQGhoR9Sm9gLxr5ayZtdSdz RghFOoth+NPQGx4S+o0MtRFmM3v3ToiJlzfq3DI8vISVwhgoervuPgYsVDMvq78Dgmnt +XeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=SRthiWm5GYHCGUUh0wiTZy7EIfLDJkh2fFLyFakN9pM=; b=EUn8XR+ZXJyQ6ZOUMpix0rvgMwtaVYRoTeiXDxGjgakOdBsRLLt4JUNeEdz8tHi/ro uX/VX6zXsv3IbhzQ3K5SGdDsVdRNc+1hLl7Qy/7EWCGlGPSe26ceEQfNNx22oUK+NxVP k4zH0Yq32K8dfsb8G28hux9SdzpBoCWGSYYh4EhLoSz467QWwX8htXHFZTsCpbspcho4 ZJloMCgCUPHRGTi1qISndj2775gAORsIqco8FcEv7krzRAqwTPswWXvqi62aDX8fE5gT s2iFgoQFF/rTsrqUI4tCvEysYl9kkYVp3Q7bbqxNmFZioRhx+QrOUMcUImIbpRjpPZHT K9/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI/qEtpfCAlcBqBtBPeIXCfsJRv4TqnInqoEcNy38usHN3OgJHzZCg4m7V10ZcRwQ== X-Received: by 10.98.107.136 with SMTP id g130mr19168743pfc.20.1484260033376; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from taliz (aswan.sscsinc.com. [199.96.38.41]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 89sm23954279pfi.70.2017.01.12.14.27.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:27:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <587802c0.dc08620a.da847.b4d7@mx.google.com> X-Google-Original-Message-ID: <01db01d26d23$0138ac60$03aa0520$@cruz@gmail.com> From: "Motty Cruz" To: Cc: Subject: libpkg.so.3: Undefined symbol "utimensat" Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:27:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdJtIwCsHdNKKYWWTjma42OiwgTmHA== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:27:14 -0000 Hello, I get the following error when I tried to do "pkg upgrade" on FreeBSD 10.2 64bit Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y [1/102] Upgrading xproto from 7.0.28 to 7.0.31... [1/102] Extracting xproto-7.0.31: 0%/usr/local/lib/libpkg.so.3: Undefined symbol "utimensat" Any idea how to upgrade force upgrade this package? Thanks, Motty From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 22:32:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F67FCADBDB for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCE131A29 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 203so21648342ith.0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:32:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CaQqrs7Tq0wdj/+cOx5aumZxLqxn4FCxpuUhC+gjNnY=; b=hFYHjd5FP1FktE+e3E7sJkRMaaDm5OuKmEY0ec/o4AZ72h4DVDykG/m1S9VZwxpD13 wZkbTHrxOhNtVx56vvU6lkzz6tMt7ObumLN7wsqa6dPKiLkeGZ90KKuYtAVWgZA/3seF 51VPDGDSzizu0JlNBtZjdoaf9WN970OYOnJc1hN+ZN6rQrrPHywAcFLqSdyjMiJXzoYB Ed9dny3UfqCTxok4RaU4IYeZBZW7YZPdIW+JL4mClvuet5iRNabO4wkwNVnM+pFsfhGN dxESbMKUgicFdDzHvVckYs5b6atx2ZnweoTvTW1sEsOtDUqwUQpal34tzfZwh+bFJEJC 2aIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CaQqrs7Tq0wdj/+cOx5aumZxLqxn4FCxpuUhC+gjNnY=; b=JUJ7gom7KouUdZaP4LNsOT9R/525hLWpow/9QNcI+/I2IsqQPSSftULEyhwsbq1lh1 iI2LfoT4lbeyu8vPBOUg3peydccTWbwf3RwpHI50A+PW+0f11h8wCaCpq5frZJA9lnOk dDldy3ErJr/4Ex5wKgCWTRRdNSS9jws//xkWrzOfbTHT1xUtGqV6iUv2Nn5ywh7Z0F8C p6i5NUXxucEedpvdraOdd4+sh+lPKAJgyp3XktVEV0bQnz/IeILSqapfbfE86Fp5UFot YlpCdbjxqZAcI5YZaE3vmRLfmP6Syi6UbjYPNNPac51hdDudT8r23pwGnoEldBessOnl Xg8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJkTiIK0OntvN7gIBInf8Wt/gs7uDg3wxlFRN7WcnmzT7+q2ovY201/FlnlR58T0neV8dvvCL9RVn62Sg== X-Received: by 10.36.36.216 with SMTP id f207mr490033ita.0.1484260337954; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:32:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.125.132 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:32:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> From: Kurt Buff Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:32:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:32:19 -0000 On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: > I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art > spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. > > Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, > razor, and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't > quite understand yet. > > I think I'll phase this stuff in, with greylisting first, and see > what happens to the spam flow for each step. I am a little wary > of putting even more chunks of perl and python into the critical > path. > > Thanks a lot for the help, everyone. > > Russell > (I just had a sad laugh recalling that I used to set up a mail server > in 1995 using sendmail... and nothing else but exmh as the client) One other suggestion - I set this up years ago, but was forced to retire it in favor of a Barracuda appliance, which does basically the same thing - security/maia. It worked very well for our 250 users, and was pretty easy to administer. It might be overkill for your situation - it's meant as a spam filter for an organization, but the pkg-descr is below Maia Mailguard is a web-based interface and management system based on the popular amavisd-new e-mail scanner and SpamAssassin. Written in Perl and PHP, Maia Mailguard gives end-users control over how their mail is processed by virus scanners and spam filters, while giving mail administrators the power to configure site-wide defaults and limits. WWW: http://www.maiamailguard.com/ Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 22:38:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6C1CADED7 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEC911D96 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1484260558; bh=CbeFmqX/kIXQh81sjWfutQUyrPemAX4ZqgXkEGya1Vo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=lR9fOf3hlVyslQVfcIO+B5vFm+lITEhhTgYIymVT2ybEN7XFC3jyC+Af6dY2NnY1cJGR9Ie1fFoY9cVXOMcpzwhkI5HbMMQHlvck5EuUGUFCAmgIwsslRD5V8h7P9m5CKxacrlDX17qMxq7CdOxYhSOqyqMVGfIk0QsoKp9/tF5rvSFIgsdoyi+vFz5VgxBhSdDgLiLRx8tidTPmQdT4fEpOwUvfazqmjCoU/T2jR//wuTgra6cljPoIuKtfqOQoEQFNqy1rX1VCeBKyVkCbeNoe9v0sQ4rRIzPAXGJHPJq5e23OD+g07VSFHsIEkLpAoOjwH6oI3pxf0FhNbPeRog== Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm31.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 22:35:58 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.82] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 22:35:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2017 22:35:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 823595.1787.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TOz7hlcVM1mPL03GJ_WksTaiKR9TcIMcJzU7_Km6YKsuUAC cvojWYi9M4Mh.WR5USryExeks6F42nJ2de3Qgn7LgBVJQzpTRtkxbKRHtD8p UVRb484nMC.ZQ21CtOBVT9fFCRdins.Lp5YIA2s32mkYeM7XFIIkv4uckrcw UpKW_ktAevBSvAhSioSHH8hmway8dY70GzOcHH4byxnMEcCf5ejROOUHW6DM ui99HLh.A7BTKMSYzSXq2uq.YLgzSnzhMsUDgDkhk5cXJWtyBZvQNa2OX4Bz hfbRGwRfSbSoFoN87FeYfi6hwq7.2dG9_jw_1HZkgybsnG4m0oAzE0LFV_Ni 5U1iKjPBWEf.9iDud_C0PGYo_Ju9EAZFT.kLBf4q2ySkMxgpnaIKS0nA8RjE g.AbfZ8ggiFWmJQB7k49Z8PuI5qktzyM2TQG6o11OhONdsoEN4WmWutQg_4G knSguPBbNdWoFp.0jugQ79lFiim8s57rVO7O7nt0VbQ2DqaQAHwMARPtEML4 _e65DrTN2DiOJyKfN.QfaVOlCY_9peNbTr72y.ejWFJz0nRbQz60knI.gGxG vZsiMFpm74ztFPDmz8ATgkaj5 X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:35:22 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [no spam] ramifications_of_tweaks_to_subject_line :) Message-ID: <20170112233522.658fd69d@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20170112212903.183c8015@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> <20170112211912.1ca1a74e@archlinux.localdomain> <20170112212903.183c8015@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:38:43 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:29:03 +0000, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >Note that your modified subject ended in the original subject, like an >ordinary reply would, just with a longer prefix. :D Good point, now it doesn't ;). Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:06:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704B6CADCB2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 089891FC0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id l2so7348978wml.2 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7BRE+b2aXvrvVrovn1xBQdqEiIoTefZSTGHaAEPmgp8=; b=CzsIS+Y+hiGa8XniUQ5ebaEZ1tBbl3yM7rWruDq+9zTxD5w6LCDNVrat3Qg5NrSt6l 0EATOd1moVojuG/97UhxQOBkWM7zw35BjW6U+gYA3KL1EwFZodGnnTxRBKMp/V9By0Jd xCw4xHEAH3BIc5dF3SSrDYJInSRfCFB1zpJd94bkt6Z3FUkVhcoW0hPQVAxl7F6ehFaB 3RiGtOw5KQEAn9/4dRQXWZNxfHrqO/NQybmkHIhpI1gywb6RCXd0hvPbZ+1fpxR+q0kF e32/8vCZjBXCuI+sODGn7VgKlj0CYKk91wS8KYincOw8ZJjfX0FaJhMz7k4tjEhj9QQb zOIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7BRE+b2aXvrvVrovn1xBQdqEiIoTefZSTGHaAEPmgp8=; b=Pdu2bGYAd/06YxtNzTvB5NCQhDjud2oIAN43olKcjLFbSXuIG9HhajNvBepXSY2TKg +MS92IwoQ4wa4TrXyEVRf50LSZ7334RK3N3xohhYwJ2xe3OV5UDE6ThPzhU6FVeWWLlH qiDihWZYxEPzIr3EvE09pjxWtr+ZLSeoOj7g1BG6ZKx5WqZlRZiZmHguQ4K0ax8SzpPY /uDokNTmhxBnJU7vDzZce4Wk/6V3cOoBrZW0t0ICps/1+Ht2qe/LSKIbZ+Dkzd4R9mAK ExTUGa10RVoNDK8E86pLfkKHgQI7gFe7rLvoRiWT0G0PjFWtLZpodsonBx17jeZ0MvHq 5mxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKgCuLJcFAxcuT6xbvo7h9vfXJGsR6cyd6s4xAhQBx0uWy1LwOZPzSZszSMvKekGg== X-Received: by 10.223.138.220 with SMTP id z28mr8919804wrz.26.1484262357958; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm6179960wma.5.2017.01.12.15.05.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:05:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:05:54 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-ID: <20170112230554.7b8db106@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:06:00 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:58:10 -0700 Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 16:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Wed, January 11, 2017 4:00 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Milter greylist also helps considerably > >> > > > > I'm usually using sqlgrey for greylisting. In addition to that I'm > > using amavisd (that harnesses spamassassin, clamav (and/or other > > anti-viruses, - yes, I have windows people receiving their mail on > > our UNIX servers), and variety of distributed spam signature > > databases. Also, in postfix configuration (that we use as MTA) we > > add some RBLs: > > > > reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, > > reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, > > reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, cbl is part of zen > > I hope, this helps. > > I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art > spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. You haven't actually determined whether you have a specific problem with SA, or whether your spam has just got harder. You might want to upload a few low-scoring spams to pastebin and ask on the SA user list. > Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, > razor, razor2 has been a standard part of SA and on by default, since 2006. > and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't > quite understand yet. be aware that dcc is not a test for spam, it's a test for any kind of bulk mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:07:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A7CADDAD for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 891BA10BE for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE0E62236 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:09:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kUFkwNRA8baF for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C4286216A for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:09:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484240997; bh=sUX6pQ8/y2wzQjwxkk0/U/N62S44VobPg3/ieUeVgTU=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=fIkoQm77cVt5o3d7+bjE/fC8ZioFcsC81OX73i2uaqn3i8UjhCkcEHgkQjcdDCzSQ AnaYl5+uungkAf3hr7IYWSQNQ7rfyXhJAZ1POt6q828pvweOyMjLjJFLoUXnzjzQgv VJ443HP+6gIlBBOyR1O5wVbIoGSXR733LASjajaae5TuYuq4oD6o+MsjJAXK1jYkm/ oqEA2SATUNE0vGEUgmeGm5Ov0NwDsmUAzPLs+Lwpib6hQevCqg5J2JwKNJR05ywHU0 eg2Kqf2fTQhvpqRaT7EkEZpPuosu4MHyJ0V2zhx3diDgE9oSHiA0SNfyPvU5Sd7Dpv Oiu3FeYOruhnA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <7dfc56f488bc98d1da4636bd22c43b6e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:09:57 -0500 Subject: going around in circles From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 -0000 I know that I successfully built p5-DBD-pg against Pg96 in the past because I have both installed and working together. However, I can no longer repeat the process. When I try to build p5-DBD-pg from the ports collection after setting the default value for postgresql to 9.6 in make.conf I get this error. In file included from quote.c:10: ./Pg.h:35:10: fatal error: 'libpq-fe.h' file not found #include "libpq-fe.h" So, where to get 'libpq-fe.h'? postgresql-libpgeasy maybe? Ok, but how to install? pkg install postgresql-libpgeasy. However, this leads to this: The following 3 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: postgresql-libpgeasy: 3.0.4_1 postgresql93-client: 9.3.15_1 and postgresql93-client: 9.3.15_1 leads to this: perl5.20: 5.20.3_15 whereas I have 5.24 installed. So, If I build libeasy from ports instead I see this: make install clean . . . checking for PQconnectdb in -lpq... no Error: libpq.so not found ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. . . . I know that I did not run into this back in December. There was a massive update to the ports collection applied today and I am guessing that just maybe that has something to do with this. My understanding may be faulty but I was under the impression that if one used the ports system then this sort of stuff was not supposed to happen. That if there were dependencies then the port build process would pull them in automatically. This is not happening in this instance and I am not sure whether this is a real problem or if I am somehow missing a step or using the wrong command. Is Postgresql96 not supported on FreeBSD? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:07:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A1DCADDAF for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 891FB10BF for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364336229F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:21:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hHCPZd2ATjW5 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04ED66229E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484238090; bh=lZlCm3khIvM84ry433muMLQs+8Uhr9X6t+5Rprnz/co=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=TD0zHa2vQtnHT79vqrfqcu53LwLxa4qcuEgtqCv9R5r9GoWSGW0R4fWhS6bAtIWHU rUhcUDgWSH1+c86XV6pDeObZmMPLjE2UxCMNo+MuGe78ZtXr9iDUgt8Gja2Lbpd7kP Tdu2aKk99dKrJ0Y6VsGsB9n+5aB5npjtjLcqy1ix6o8seRL2fQN90rN0Ut9KGw5RtF 75NRe2xP53JTh/lhIizdNX4nPSMZ2f4309JWwQIj1W1rN3pfnCM7cPjwgZC4L5Vq+p RQCtiCPrVQtUsxfyQH42i8nD9gKeI3+4ShazmfQljRAfem6/pwoYRUtbg8qHDgtwfX 1vK2vfcqseijg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:21:30 -0500 Subject: pkg management From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:17 -0000 In December past I installed these packages using pkg: postgresql96-server-9.6.1_1 postgresql96-client-9.6.1 postgresql96-contrib-9.6.1 postgresql96-docs-9.6.1_1 When I ran pkg upgrade today I saw this: pkg update Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. [root@inet13 /usr/ports/databases]# pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (53 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (53 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (2 conflicting) - postgresql93-client-9.3.15_1 conflicts with postgresql96-client-9.6.1 on /usr/local/bin/clusterdb - postgresql93-client-9.3.15_1 conflicts with postgresql96-client-9.6.1 on /usr/local/bin/clusterdb Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) The following 6 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REMOVED: postgresql96-server-9.6.1_1 postgresql96-client-9.6.1 postgresql96-contrib-9.6.1 postgresql96-docs-9.6.1_1 New packages to be INSTALLED: postgresql93-client: 9.3.15_1 Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: p5-DBD-Pg-3.5.3 (direct dependency changed: postgresql93-client) Number of packages to be removed: 4 Number of packages to be installed: 1 Number of packages to be reinstalled: 1 The operation will free 37 MiB. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: n Why is pkg trying to remove the version I have installed and replace it with an older one? Is there some switch I am to set somewhere to tell pkg not to do this? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:07:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD6BCADDAC for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8923910C0 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8C662272 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:14:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eXB4slayUJi9 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B13D662101 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:14:08 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484244849; bh=tiYXiUTJrJslS0xD9qEmRz3moe2zxdY2mXm2CVXaxzU=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=UFbGIsIgYiBnHMi+ncUhqhcfEaI6b8URZYqpE2V+fkXD4AZl0gDYDDQdarFMWt2QM P63mrvgCQ2PHpYxh1jvJNbavt3yR6gDPvVBToKem5C4J0CFc1b2zGaYFJmnQ3Dlx3L fDpIazLYPURcANKw3nRaRvxQ5FyzkTEsoapHPInrRZVkHlMsh/BvEkPP9IkDPUwL6/ O0jloWNqwpeaOemMa9sILnZYHWMfUKghS4DsJ5jKs6OZQO4GNJYOvqxDgeLvfELPi3 MqWcNVmuCon8YVqAbKUaRvcISC9srb6/Ozp0g3Kr2A+v8r8t0UKiMnh5r4+du9fi00 0nw6SHr5+YcEw== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:14:09 -0500 Message-ID: <23452361f18e06fccb64293d30f1b6eb.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:14:09 -0500 Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 -0000 On Wed, January 11, 2017 20:34, Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 17:24, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Snippety snip... >> >> A secondary MX that refuses mail when the primary is up and running >> foils one of the favorite tactics of spammers - they will often >> target >> the secondary MX because those are often not as up to date with >> anti-spam measures. Most spambots try one MX, one time only. >> >> Many spambots will try that secondary MX, get refused with a 4xx >> error, and not bother to try the primary MX at all. >> >> It can be a big win, in the right situation. > > Ah. Awesome. How do I do that? > If you have control over your forward zone DNS then you can simply create a bogus MX record with a lower priority (higher number) than any of your real MX records. example.com. 172800 IN MX 30 mx30host.example.com. example.com. 172800 IN MX 50 mx50host.example.com. example.com. 172800 IN MX 70 mx70host.example.com. example.com. 172800 IN MX 90 mx90host.example.com. ;# mx90host.example.com. is not real - no listener at this address. mx90host.example.com. IN A 192.168.0.90 There is nothing listening at 192.168.0.90 on port 25 so the spammer generally just goes away. If you wish to get fancy then you can honey-pot the source address instead. The assigned address could be your own or be one of the public junk mail submission addresses a la project honeypot. Just make sure to clear this redirection with the intended recipient before doing so. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:07:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C2DCADDAB for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8917710BD for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C576228C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:08:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id teruWaCrU9fD for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EE846216A for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:08:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484233733; bh=8tqJ2jI6YPwHMQE/5j0o7sjl8itOYNvvkhtlzMEWY2Q=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=ToFrscWxBKV9fXNBHpjhcxtq/mqQYei8M0huY236pqOntz4KoP1eqJaqAuoA/T5o1 VGRmzdNxnrSUaQ8CY1bvrNZFt8hneVJeeIfwkAu5Sbe9EWEKZBfA4GfeLLK0L5L3dN BJNoxSxQd7rIiK0Gm1KHOGh+AG3zxfemcL8TVu6QIiB7aWHpaSqnxOmxn5BF0HFsHD lwj8gd7MuY382YFzJRyDm/iZugfrYP4O0wXNEJnemhXc9ZR3SJPDs9iI13sMg9JEQp JFUpiKWSeB68dYU7eBKNTHkDbXMN9UCg1ICFH3JvXQXi/QkIAPGl31757uTEmw/Kqr aZsmWJhrUgF2A== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4138b6f141eb85bd1ae4a887eb2d2e13.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:08:53 -0500 Subject: Re: FreeBSD running PHP on Apache24 From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:07:16 -0000 On Wed, January 11, 2017 17:11, James B. Byrne wrote: > I cannot seem to discover where one obtains the php5 module for > apache24. On my CentOS6.8 boxes running Apache2.4.9 I do this in > php.conf > > LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so > > But I cannot even locate a libphp5.so for FreeBSd to load. How is php > invoked? > > Thank you for the guidance. I had everything installed except mod_php5. Which is why I could not find it. Why I could not see it listed at the top of my pkg search results remains one of life's little mysteries. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 23:43:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC2DCA973E for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43011DD1 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 38092CB8CA4; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:43:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:43:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <43156.128.135.52.6.1484264635.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:43:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Kurt Buff" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:43:58 -0000 On Thu, January 12, 2017 4:32 pm, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Russell L. Carter > wrote: > >> I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art >> spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. >> >> Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, >> razor, and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't >> quite understand yet. >> >> I think I'll phase this stuff in, with greylisting first, and see >> what happens to the spam flow for each step. I am a little wary >> of putting even more chunks of perl and python into the critical >> path. >> >> Thanks a lot for the help, everyone. >> >> Russell >> (I just had a sad laugh recalling that I used to set up a mail server >> in 1995 using sendmail... and nothing else but exmh as the client) > > One other suggestion - I set this up years ago, but was forced to > retire it in favor of a Barracuda appliance, which does basically the > same thing - security/maia. It worked very well for our 250 users, and > was pretty easy to administer. > > It might be overkill for your situation - it's meant as a spam filter > for an organization, but the pkg-descr is below > > Maia Mailguard is a web-based interface and management system based > on the > popular amavisd-new e-mail scanner and SpamAssassin. Written in > Perl and PHP, > Maia Mailguard gives end-users control over how their mail is > processed by > virus scanners and spam filters, while giving mail administrators the > power > to configure site-wide defaults and limits. > > WWW: http://www.maiamailguard.com/ > I was very enthusiastic about maia about 3 (or 2?) years ago. Until I tried to install it. The first thing I discovered was that at that moment it wasn't maintained for about a year. I probably should say "was no activity" on main maia project. Then I discovered excellent writeup of how to install mail server with maia being integral part - that was written by maia port maintainer. However, he is not who originally wrote maia. I must give him big credit for fixing things in maia in a course of maintaining that port. However, I didn't manage to make maia port work - as in my case I didn't want to follow all the decisions which are default for that port. Namely, I didn't want to have my mail users be kept in postgresql database... Anyway, whoever decides to follow it and use maia, beware to use port maintainer's howto (Find URL in port Makefile), or you may get into trouble down the road. Valeri > > Kurt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 00:03:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C75CAD475 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67CE1866 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8BA13CB8C9F; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:32:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:32:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34435.128.135.52.6.1484263940.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <23452361f18e06fccb64293d30f1b6eb.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <23452361f18e06fccb64293d30f1b6eb.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:32:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:03:21 -0000 On Thu, January 12, 2017 12:14 pm, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Wed, January 11, 2017 20:34, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> On 01/11/17 17:24, Kurt Buff wrote: >>> Snippety snip... > >>> >>> A secondary MX that refuses mail when the primary is up and running >>> foils one of the favorite tactics of spammers - they will often >>> target >>> the secondary MX because those are often not as up to date with >>> anti-spam measures. Most spambots try one MX, one time only. >>> >>> Many spambots will try that secondary MX, get refused with a 4xx >>> error, and not bother to try the primary MX at all. >>> >>> It can be a big win, in the right situation. >> >> Ah. Awesome. How do I do that? >> > > > If you have control over your forward zone DNS then you can simply > create a bogus MX record with a lower priority (higher number) than > any of your real MX records. > > example.com. 172800 IN MX 30 mx30host.example.com. > example.com. 172800 IN MX 50 mx50host.example.com. > example.com. 172800 IN MX 70 mx70host.example.com. > example.com. 172800 IN MX 90 mx90host.example.com. > > > ;# mx90host.example.com. is not real - no listener at this address. > mx90host.example.com. IN A 192.168.0.90 > > There is nothing listening at 192.168.0.90 on port 25 so the spammer > generally just goes away. I have one question and one comment to your suggestion. Question: why spammers would go to your lower priority MX instead of first going to your primary MX? Is that because on primary and only on primary you have greylisting? Why not to have greylisting on all MX serving your domain then? I'm in darkness about the logic behind doing it. Comment: Majority of spammers were simple scripts that just spit all onto your MX, but some time ago (over 5 years ago) many started using real mail servers, likely someone's poorly set up mail servers to pipe whatever their script spits out, and that real MX never "just goes away" it will continue attempts to deliver all that to each of MX records of your domain for a week. At least that is my observation lately (about them piping through real mail servers). Valeri > > If you wish to get fancy then you can honey-pot the source address > instead. The assigned address could be your own or be one of the > public junk mail submission addresses a la project honeypot. Just > make sure to clear this redirection with the intended recipient before > doing so. > > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 00:35:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A28CAC355 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D2518EB for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5AA2FCB8C9E; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:35:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:35:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <33158.128.135.52.6.1484267736.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> References: <2463a238-e10f-e81d-cab1-5a7eaf774590@pinyon.org> <20170111210507.2dc39818c6e9d439abb21ee6@sohara.org> <1598f8c4238.279b.0b331fcf0b21179f1640bd439e3f4a1e@tundraware.com> <41546.128.135.52.6.1484176714.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <62a3cbd1-e4c2-3829-208d-7e859d81d9e7@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:35:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 00:35:38 -0000 On Thu, January 12, 2017 3:58 pm, Russell L. Carter wrote: > On 01/11/17 16:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Wed, January 11, 2017 4:00 pm, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >>> Milter greylist also helps considerably >>> >> >> I'm usually using sqlgrey for greylisting. In addition to that I'm using >> amavisd (that harnesses spamassassin, clamav (and/or other anti-viruses, >> - >> yes, I have windows people receiving their mail on our UNIX servers), >> and >> variety of distributed spam signature databases. Also, in postfix >> configuration (that we use as MTA) we add some RBLs: >> >> reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, >> reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, >> reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, >> >> I hope, this helps. > > I had hoped I wouldn't need to do a deep dive on state-of-the-art > spam killing, but it's 2017 and the game has gotten tougher. > > Thanks for these suggestions. I'm implementing greylisting, pyzor, > razor, and the above client_recipient_restrictions. dcc I don't > quite understand yet. In our case amavid harnesses spamassassin, pyzor, razor and dcc (at least in one case we have local copy of dcc thus diminishing our traffic to them). I should have mention these explicitly... Valeri > > I think I'll phase this stuff in, with greylisting first, and see > what happens to the spam flow for each step. I am a little wary > of putting even more chunks of perl and python into the critical > path. > > Thanks a lot for the help, everyone. > > Russell > (I just had a sad laugh recalling that I used to set up a mail server > in 1995 using sendmail... and nothing else but exmh as the client) > >> Valeri >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Valeri Galtsev >> Sr System Administrator >> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics >> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics >> University of Chicago >> Phone: 773-702-4247 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 03:34:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938A2CADF92 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36D421347 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id v0D3Y0Rs073360; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:34:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: going around in circles To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7dfc56f488bc98d1da4636bd22c43b6e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <7b77af4f-b86d-dc87-29b1-1c4d57bb14aa@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:34:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7dfc56f488bc98d1da4636bd22c43b6e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:34:01 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:34:11 -0000 On 01/12/17 10:09, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I know that I successfully built p5-DBD-pg against Pg96 in the past > because I have both installed and working together. However, I can no > longer repeat the process. When I try to build p5-DBD-pg from the > ports collection after setting the default value for postgresql to 9.6 > in make.conf I get this error. > > In file included from quote.c:10: > ./Pg.h:35:10: fatal error: 'libpq-fe.h' file not found > #include "libpq-fe.h" > > > So, where to get 'libpq-fe.h'? postgresql-libpgeasy maybe? Ok, but > how to install? pkg install postgresql-libpgeasy. However, this > leads to this: > > The following 3 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > New packages to be INSTALLED: > postgresql-libpgeasy: 3.0.4_1 > postgresql93-client: 9.3.15_1 > > and postgresql93-client: 9.3.15_1 leads to this: > > perl5.20: 5.20.3_15 > > whereas I have 5.24 installed. > > So, If I build libeasy from ports instead I see this: > > make install clean > . . . > checking for PQconnectdb in -lpq... no > Error: libpq.so not found > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > . . . > > > I know that I did not run into this back in December. There was a > massive update to the ports collection applied today and I am guessing > that just maybe that has something to do with this. > > My understanding may be faulty but I was under the impression that if > one used the ports system then this sort of stuff was not supposed to > happen. That if there were dependencies then the port build process > would pull them in automatically. This is not happening in this > instance and I am not sure whether this is a real problem or if I am > somehow missing a step or using the wrong command. Is Postgresql96 > not supported on FreeBSD? I can't speak specifically to postgresql, but it looks like you have run into an inconsistency in the ports tree; which happens regularly but usually a portsnap fetch + update some (indeterminate) time later will clear it up. This thread gives a hint that there's an opportune time to update, but it's not clear to me when that is: https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=415100+0+archive/2016/freebsd-ports/20161120.freebsd-ports I've had mostly good luck syncing during the weekend, but haven't narrowed it down to the beginning or end of that period. success. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 05:09:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B71CADABE for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D67F317A4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cRu6v-0006pj-3g; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cRu7Z-000AaX-Nl; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:02 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore Message-Id: <20170113050902.937e8e721168218c24cfc0d6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <34435.128.135.52.6.1484263940.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <23452361f18e06fccb64293d30f1b6eb.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <34435.128.135.52.6.1484263940.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:09:18 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:32:20 -0600 (CST) "Valeri Galtsev" wrote: > Question: why spammers would go to your lower priority MX instead of first > going to your primary MX? Is that because on primary and only on primary > you have greylisting? Why not to have greylisting on all MX serving your > domain then? I'm in darkness about the logic behind doing it. Many botnet spammers assume that the primary MX has the best anti-spam measures and by going through a secondary they can bypass them. So having a secondary that rejects (preferably unless the primary is down) traps these spammers. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 07:53:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C447CADCC4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23F5A167A for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C2E4FDD4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/9C2E4FDD4; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: pkg management To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:52:56 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a1u0KhmIPMMISHsd83nmRThvxr1HG1mh6" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:53:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --a1u0KhmIPMMISHsd83nmRThvxr1HG1mh6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rcrp35aKOBfmQhAqC9hQDLIxo8B3drHrE"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg management References: In-Reply-To: --rcrp35aKOBfmQhAqC9hQDLIxo8B3drHrE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/01/2017 16:21, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > Why is pkg trying to remove the version I have installed and replace > it with an older one? Is there some switch I am to set somewhere to > tell pkg not to do this? You're trying to install a different package that has a dependency on postgresql93-client -- but postgresql93-client conflicts with postgresql96-client so pkg would have to remove it to install postgresql93 as you requested. Then it also has to remove postgresql96-{server,contrib,docs} as those all depend on postgresql96-client. postgresql93 is the default version of postgresql in ports at the moment. If you're using the standard system packages then anything that depends on postgresql will cause the installation of postgresql93-client, and result in the effect you described. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Wed, January 11, 2017 17:11, James B. Byrne wrote: > > I cannot seem to discover where one obtains the php5 module for > > apache24. On my CentOS6.8 boxes running Apache2.4.9 I do this in > > php.conf > > > > LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so > > > > But I cannot even locate a libphp5.so for FreeBSd to load. How is php > > invoked? > > Thank you for the guidance. I had everything installed except > mod_php5. Which is why I could not find it. Why I could not see it > listed at the top of my pkg search results remains one of life's > little mysteries. 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[85.171.136.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 81sm2963097wmw.7.2017.01.13.01.20.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:20:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:19:31 +0100 From: marcel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 11 & libressl Message-ID: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:20:37 -0000 Hi there ! I try to build FreeBSD 11 with libressl instead of openssl. I have tried several times but when I type openssl version, I always have Openssl freebsd... instead of LibreSSL... This time, I've followed this link https://github.com/Sp1l/LibreBSD, I've applied the patch, etc but when I make buildworld, it stops with this error: bmake[4]: exec(/bin/sh) failed (Argument list too long) *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[4]: stopped in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto *** Error code 1 [...] I've searched for this error, but all results report to a programation problems, but I am not a developer... The only things that is different of the LibreBSD github process is my make.conf and my src.conf. Here they are: make.conf MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER?=4 WITHOUT_X11=YES DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 NO_SENDMAIL=true WITHOUT_MODULES=ng_bluetooth src.conf WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=sound WITHOUT_AMD=yes WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=yes WITHOUT_BSDINSTALL=yes WITHOUT_FLOPPY=yes WITHOUT_GAMES=yes WITHOUT_HYPERV=yes WITHOUT_ZFS=yes WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=yes So, I don't understand why my make buildworld ends with error... And I believed that libressl will be native in FreeBSD 11, am I wrong ? Thanks ! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 10:06:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39716CAD003 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB224188E for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED76FFEE9 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/ED76FFEE9; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11 & libressl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <51f735a6-1fdc-d669-5516-9662edbb3544@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:02 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nakg9lWvVTgCom3nwdJap4K2WUQJg7gsk" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nakg9lWvVTgCom3nwdJap4K2WUQJg7gsk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Or7RrdAliEqkUPTpgH6LCqESUMSXDw1d4"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <51f735a6-1fdc-d669-5516-9662edbb3544@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11 & libressl References: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> In-Reply-To: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> --Or7RrdAliEqkUPTpgH6LCqESUMSXDw1d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/13/17 09:19, marcel wrote: > I try to build FreeBSD 11 with libressl instead of openssl. > I have tried several times but when I type openssl version, I always > have Openssl freebsd... instead of LibreSSL... > This time, I've followed this link https://github.com/Sp1l/LibreBSD, > I've applied the patch, etc but when I make buildworld, it stops with > this error: >=20 > bmake[4]: exec(/bin/sh) failed (Argument list too long) > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop. > bmake[4]: stopped in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto > *** Error code 1 >=20 > [...] >=20 > I've searched for this error, but all results report to a programation > problems, but I am not a developer... >=20 > The only things that is different of the LibreBSD github process is my > make.conf and my src.conf. Here they are: >=20 > make.conf > MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER?=3D4 > WITHOUT_X11=3DYES > DOC_LANG=3Den_US.ISO8859-1 > NO_SENDMAIL=3Dtrue > WITHOUT_MODULES=3Dng_bluetooth >=20 > src.conf > WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=3Dsound > WITHOUT_AMD=3Dyes > WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=3Dyes > WITHOUT_BSDINSTALL=3Dyes > WITHOUT_FLOPPY=3Dyes > WITHOUT_GAMES=3Dyes > WITHOUT_HYPERV=3Dyes > WITHOUT_ZFS=3Dyes > WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=3Dyes >=20 > So, I don't understand why my make buildworld ends with error... >=20 > And I believed that libressl will be native in FreeBSD 11, am I wrong ?= =20 Bernard's LibreBSD project is very much a work in progress, and not really suitable for people that /aren't/ developers. What OS version are you starting from? There are known problems building 11 on some earlier versions. I recommend that you start by upgrading to regular FreeBSD 11.0 as supplied by the project -- maybe even do a clean install on a new drive. Then try Bernard's patches to build the system with LibreSSL rather than OpenSSL from there. Cheers, Matthew --Or7RrdAliEqkUPTpgH6LCqESUMSXDw1d4-- --nakg9lWvVTgCom3nwdJap4K2WUQJg7gsk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAlh4pooACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OcBIg//YWcHjfODfxyizWIHOXLrbcu6Xw6a6DRQt9h7hyd+N+1GxdchPuabGePB vQ47n6RLpvIJqKp5FSX/2OzLGsPAlE/S8LnwSEH5zdWPcTp73OjbRlMKdTNpgeQp j7+6yxx+gOvMgS5O3Qt1pBvKcWNu3+6PRiz8o0BHEmvcSZqQDicWtkR8v1Bm0Tc/ Tzn4OeU6ZhATiyw89Xws7DBCJN8SHd4/LpKp6EIdRS3rbn3kwdhT3x/+FsAu+Emy 27AJMRc9SdSjxW565VyifXrv1vRs2KrxuB30JZV3kzalLVU4FvEXOLwPS/LbmJ0g 5Qs5+C2OtqQ2luCsAJmuDLx8BgqIHZN237KEZzN6tCO95rzc6ilQjsLvXbP71SIV zcOQ2maAkeFE653otDG8Ut5fwzD2so8ehN9tFBt28pt0/OGxUky3+T3gEf7rTho9 k8vqBKcrNKc+ErMe6DiSyTuJXp2WGQ4QS8BmOwR2uwcVQ6nsWpBRt0GcoulJFfb6 VyMspZQ6vny48rep+CI2j4v2Gt3uJY4sv4NVyB8+7EMOYR/QUV3QGsZ7KfmdRA9o r3hoMjRwf+e8u9q8cOmRQ5wGJxmk2EW9n6vRfIb3QY5MmQeTWhSyhigGbHBYQrXO JF44DFNHL7rHMrmkK5t8kp8JEC0jU6PkUi6qC9+LKmrlFvR86e4= =DO+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nakg9lWvVTgCom3nwdJap4K2WUQJg7gsk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 10:21:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5E7CAD606 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [78.47.239.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1926F1EB1 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439784DA40C for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:13:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34V428AaFG6Z for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:13:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.153.10.232] (tmo-106-205.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.106.205]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5865B4DA409 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:13:11 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Kukulies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:13:07 +0100 Subject: tunneling ports Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14C92) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:21:38 -0000 I don't know if this could be easily achieved, but imagine the situation tha= t you are in a network and the only ports being allowed for outgoing traffic= into the Internet are ports 80 and 443. Now you would like to access mailservers in the Internet to read your Email.= Ports 993, 587, 465,25. 22 wiuld be desirable,too. What I have is an outside server into which I could tunnel.=20 Is there any piece of software allowing me to divert ports into the outside s= erver through some kind of server? -- Christoph=20 Von meinem iPhone gesendet w=C3=A4hrend ich fuhr, a=C3=9F, tippte, las und e= inen Rubik cube l=C3=B6ste. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 10:46:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B47CAC486 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 629EF121B for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cRzN2-0006w7-Qu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cRzNh-000HPo-Fc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:02 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tunneling ports Message-Id: <20170113104602.61a37642564629a21f97362c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:17 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:13:07 +0100 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I don't know if this could be easily achieved, but imagine the situation > that you are in a network and the only ports being allowed for outgoing > traffic into the Internet are ports 80 and 443. Sounds like a tightly controlled work network. > Now you would like to access mailservers in the Internet to read your > Email. Ports 993, 587, 465,25. 22 wiuld be desirable,too. Presumably not to the network admins or owners. > What I have is an outside server into which I could tunnel. > > Is there any piece of software allowing me to divert ports into the > outside server through some kind of server? You could run sshd on port 80 or port 443 on the server and use ssh -D to act as a SOCKS proxy. You could run a VPN on 80 or 443 on the server but you probably don't have permissions to run the client and even if you do you're almost certainly compromising network security and risking getting fired for it. However some companies proxy and re-encode HTTPS traffic on port 443 and block it on port 80 which will prevent a VPN or ssh tunnel from working. The best thing is not to attempt to use the restricted network for private purposes (which is almost certainly not permitted) but instead use your cellphone's data feed. OTOH if you think you should be allowed to do what you intend to do then get permission and access from the network admins. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 10:46:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA4FCAC5E4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C32613B6 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-vk0-x234.google.com with SMTP id x75so30834703vke.2 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:46:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qqHm7miuSJ+GTajNw+tJ4KlEaIxVQf6LJ4hQsBkogvY=; b=gs43G9v5jtNrETg02PGG5sTb8eku/1i0/nLbsARlBe+q49LdeWndU6FbeaSx1kjnj8 CbIBIDJFksZ9ZM7xez7tTSBJzj28xRaAjj9qiZTK0L9Gig6YCmmX02a8M0vc2qWIUDBe q+cSY0BYJvyPP01TuJE5fIvp5woitFiQCPTt6m0RdDZLcUcikS+LTjmx7hzFvm+zRrJl CuceYdAUv6tLF6kIqrqko+PJgr4iRPD5mMAFO2F3juXx8vKjs7OWI2ZLePqwDbcIzR1q u1/Ig+IsCpWlygDCgwIpNrB42ONvl2sgeuTHseKwS3ua3MQsEH+BwpWikjCsZlCZrqhO mZ7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qqHm7miuSJ+GTajNw+tJ4KlEaIxVQf6LJ4hQsBkogvY=; b=pELpouynQKpRzQfoN9ZjI0CJf/8+6eMtGR46eQHqYH5oAM/MkmEZtxtG4PMGSASd3f 37LTMaNiZ0XIeAM64lyl1OK+AVsW6HBNnUsaba6FHGQIwJOPwPt7lAKtpKzPNaMvWYbI TMfQA21PLL/e/pk87jaR5BcxaeouCB2ARtYUok9rbGEa/1YghbnxKCxXB21Hhhr30jF8 zYsMeV5DT9n6RzOoNjqEybSBzpuIZW089xixAwQx57Sqot7KH49r2G6yltLSg7c2i0pc +aRStrAserO8SoY3P7iw0F77yLA9BY8kI1GZGAcgWAbtlz6I2He487ctf0gvQdKgCcH3 cHRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKFSL+BJIGVlYpf1Bv+78Gsy26RiJjkBcoaCIU21JwP6iddlnTjYn31utjSg3p5o/ywodRxQO+dZYd+NQ== X-Received: by 10.31.140.87 with SMTP id o84mr9107111vkd.133.1484304409231; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:46:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:46:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:46:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tunneling ports To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:50 -0000 On 13 January 2017 at 11:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I don't know if this could be easily achieved, but imagine the situation that you are in a network and the only ports being allowed for outgoing traffic into the Internet are ports 80 and 443. > > Now you would like to access mailservers in the Internet to read your Email. Ports 993, 587, 465,25. 22 wiuld be desirable,too. > > What I have is an outside server into which I could tunnel. > > Is there any piece of software allowing me to divert ports into the outside server through some kind of server? > Well well... somebody's trying to circumvent their netadmin's firewalls are they not ? It is not my place to question your motives, all I can offer is technical advice along with a warning. Warning first, these restrictions are in place for a reason, circumventing them puts both your employer's infrastructure and your work contract at risk. Technical advice now, get an OpenSSH server listening on port 443, and tunnel your ports over SSH. >From that point, you can do whatever you like. A quick google search yields the following examples : http://blog.trackets.com/2014/05/17/ssh-tunnel-local-and-remote-port-forwarding-explained-with-examples.html If your netadmin has somewhat advanced measures in place such as a transparent SSL proxy, you will get caught. And if I caught you doing that, I'd nuke your account on the spot. Just FYI ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 14:54:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF16CAE3D8 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0161D144E for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E8442031 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/8E8442031; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: libpkg.so.3: Undefined symbol "utimensat" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587802c0.dc08620a.da847.b4d7@mx.google.com> <20170113134432.GA52870@neutralgood.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <18620574-6ea8-bbef-53b3-5ef5f9168df7@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:53:57 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170113134432.GA52870@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="thDGsCQIQpJjpXvgbOfvnnXX6Prmk9r7m" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:54:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --thDGsCQIQpJjpXvgbOfvnnXX6Prmk9r7m Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GsAAuJkS2JXcN0EXEP26FFXXbfe8FFh3J"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <18620574-6ea8-bbef-53b3-5ef5f9168df7@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: libpkg.so.3: Undefined symbol "utimensat" References: <587802c0.dc08620a.da847.b4d7@mx.google.com> <20170113134432.GA52870@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20170113134432.GA52870@neutralgood.org> --GsAAuJkS2JXcN0EXEP26FFXXbfe8FFh3J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017/01/13 13:44, Kevin P. Neal wrote: >> I get the following error when I tried to do "pkg upgrade" on FreeBSD = 10.2 >> 64bit >> >> =20 >> >> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y >> >> [1/102] Upgrading xproto from 7.0.28 to 7.0.31... >> >> [1/102] Extracting xproto-7.0.31: 0%/usr/local/lib/libpkg.so.3: Unde= fined >> symbol "utimensat" > I have no idea how this happened. It's because utimensat(2) is a new syscall in 10.3-RELEASE and above, and as pkg(8) is now being built on 10.3-RELEASE (as that's the lowest supported 10.x RELEASE since the beginning of the month) it now tries to use that syscall. Means 10.1 and 10.2 users of the standard FreeBSD packages are going to be unhappy until they can upgrade to 10.3. A work around is to use pkg-static, but that's not completely foolproof either as any other packaged software could use utimensat(2) and suffer from the same problem= =2E Cheers, Matthew --GsAAuJkS2JXcN0EXEP26FFXXbfe8FFh3J-- --thDGsCQIQpJjpXvgbOfvnnXX6Prmk9r7m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYeOoNXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnRiAP/isJQmEYELmZpX39FhT+GPdi mwzAB++D4BSooQPocYHRz69RpiPE9XTxs2ch0aUDatMx7W8c9g2xapjS6AKq0dDx 8RGc6sNI5+qVWJ2QHyzy0WWrBY70S72i0qwarrZVhH0fWfHPwTMNiT+T31YkN149 aoLzZofbLeEqoDWLRFSH6W6AX99vPMlSmx2mx6mryIze1q7DoZRXMC4NANNefzpC wYUw1V0oo57pKnkJtv2MsflIpwVZMd3V86sGR/Is1AoIvwfDS9CYRD3eJ72UTO94 /qgpQdimiEkQOqDcHkJTsg/3rAXoOnf6F1rimHOhsVAh/AGLYLR1hskYGBJ5sq9U f8KuijArM1La9XF/W8Ip5ZG1sT7O0I72Lxx74owmfW7tMJQDWu4wvSJ81A5yAq39 m+7SSuqY7iZPKlxm8xTUQ2kBy4WFwbgKk/HHiYOdMs4gZfrFJHxItsq6xjfHBLrA PTlTSz6xT2Eynl8fhdbprazpE2gKnTKCLPjbK0QRYpT8JgVsZkVP0zZOln8MyyDG CrI5z27q9c9nTxYjXCKQ9ggv5wGSvPAUwdvm0GAoJKkgDkkCArIPa9qDXwUCsizN OUe2Foet7yMyz7FzjjOFlukMa0OrKLfZ1Au1J7wJS7QHLY233INB4UO3/ubxsQm7 UpVN4cas+hIjyL5xKb+D =1MYY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --thDGsCQIQpJjpXvgbOfvnnXX6Prmk9r7m-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 15:45:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5121ACAD263 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30E1143 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id A4BF4CB8CA0; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:45:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <26405.128.135.52.6.1484322336.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:45:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: tunneling ports From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Damien Fleuriot" Cc: "Christoph Kukulies" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:45:38 -0000 On Fri, January 13, 2017 4:46 am, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 13 January 2017 at 11:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> I don't know if this could be easily achieved, but imagine the situation >> that you are in a network and the only ports being allowed for outgoing >> traffic into the Internet are ports 80 and 443. > > Well well... somebody's trying to circumvent their netadmin's > firewalls are they not ? > > It is not my place to question your motives, all I can offer is > technical advice along with a warning. > > If your netadmin has somewhat advanced measures in place such as a > transparent SSL proxy, you will get caught. > And if I caught you doing that, I'd nuke your account on the spot. > Just FYI ;) I would second that. I had a user on my server who was piercing firewall of external place (at his new job) using ssh to my server with port forwarding. I couldn't kick him out (sigh), but I disabled his ability to forward ports on my server (sysadmins usually will take the side of another sysadmin than rogue user). And restricted his account in many other respects. You go some place to work at, you accept their rules, all comes as a bundle. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 15:57:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0602CAD704 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 640D417CF for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:58:21 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56FE3CC3F; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:57:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0DFvCpY002086; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:57:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:57:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: "Damien Fleuriot" , Christoph Kukulies , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: tunneling ports Message-Id: <20170113165712.eb279260.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <26405.128.135.52.6.1484322336.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <26405.128.135.52.6.1484322336.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with CC99169DB52 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2198 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:57:25 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:45:36 -0600 (CST), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Fri, January 13, 2017 4:46 am, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 13 January 2017 at 11:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >> I don't know if this could be easily achieved, but imagine the situation > >> that you are in a network and the only ports being allowed for outgoing > >> traffic into the Internet are ports 80 and 443. > > > > Well well... somebody's trying to circumvent their netadmin's > > firewalls are they not ? > > > > It is not my place to question your motives, all I can offer is > > technical advice along with a warning. > > > > If your netadmin has somewhat advanced measures in place such as a > > transparent SSL proxy, you will get caught. > > And if I caught you doing that, I'd nuke your account on the spot. > > Just FYI ;) > > I would second that. I had a user on my server who was piercing firewall > of external place (at his new job) using ssh to my server with port > forwarding. I couldn't kick him out (sigh), but I disabled his ability to > forward ports on my server (sysadmins usually will take the side of > another sysadmin than rogue user). And restricted his account in many > other respects. You go some place to work at, you accept their rules, all > comes as a bundle. A totally valid point of view. Lacking a "backstory" for the original question, it's possible as well that the user is in a "web-only" or "mobile first" network (which doesn't even have to be a _work_ environment) where everything has to be HTTP(S), because nothing else exists. This seems to be a common mindset in wireless networks which are only intended for people with smartphones, because a normal computer cannot connect to WLAN because it doesn't have a WLAN cable. Then some kind of lazy and uneducated "admin person" found a setting in the firewall called "The Internet" and activated it... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[74.125.82.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u13sm6334816oie.26.2017.01.13.12.23.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 104so10382218otd.3; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.3.40 with SMTP id 37mr9948952otv.117.1484339012038; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:23:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eric Joyner Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:23:21 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? To: freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:23:34 -0000 ^ Message ^ It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I don't know how long "forever" is. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 20:40:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E26CAE70C; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [198.144.209.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9468D1A36; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0DKe8xA083293; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:40:08 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v0DKe8g9083292; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:08 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Eric Joyner Cc: freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Message-ID: <20170113204008.GL9748@albert.catwhisker.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Eric Joyner , freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="S+yqHhea6nHkDc94" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:40:16 -0000 --S+yqHhea6nHkDc94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:23:21PM +0000, Eric Joyner wrote: > ^ Message ^ >=20 > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I > don't know how long "forever" is. > .... I don't have much historical information, but I do my builds within script(1), so that provides a (crude) estimate. ("Crude" because I use a csh alias to do it, so I invoke it by hand -- and as noted below, that also iincludes any manual mergemaster activities.) This morning (on my laptop), the build from r311974 -> r312063 started at Fri Jan 13 04:43:06 2017 and ended at Fri Jan 13 05:00:54 2017, which included buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, and installworld (as well as assorted mergemaster, &c.) So that was 17:48. The equivalent yesterday, for r311926 -> r311974, started at Thu Jan 12 04:48:24 2017 and ended at Thu Jan 12 05:12:42 2017. So that was 24:18. My build machine was a fair bit faster, but its work is done for the day, so it's powered off. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org How could one possibly "respect" a misogynist, racist, bullying con-man??!? See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --S+yqHhea6nHkDc94 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJYeTsoXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRDQ0I3Q0VGOTE3QTgwMUY0MzA2NEQ3N0Ix NTM5Q0M0MEEwNDlFRTE3AAoJEBU5zECgSe4XsrcH/jLtvKm1rE7AArBDDuei3OxM rjWjrGmtKxuZc8Q7WoCA5Jm8hp34YaGLXgxK8Jkkqf8Nra+qvOJcWHmzlcXslP6d p22/pnKHpNW8+TeB2XfRLzcJVXoOo7jWMBzFIA5v2QE85V25qA2yDqZthqV+GJIA NoglduC365KJygOWfnEUTZFJeRXkJvDyhGq9jPda9sQMiNge0ZWopouzvLtofuWa kBApdlMMuPYdqBj9wh3Uvdyj267nvp1GSyug0e+TrcHBQrpPtnXZsUTbraKchM9h tCU3NgPos5ugcwBVrMClz4xjWl4jXq/oSySZ5Gs74F3tDxGnOQYYRN8wSdZ6uL0= =+7SR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --S+yqHhea6nHkDc94-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 20:46:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF543CAEAED; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward3o.cmail.yandex.net (forward3o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::288]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43F5110AE; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (smtp3m.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.130]) by forward3o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6077320782; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:46:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6804A2840B6D; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:46:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id hPUrVwemH1-kAvKsNOs; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:46:10 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? To: Eric Joyner , freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current References: From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:46:09 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:46:16 -0000 13.01.2017 23:23, Eric Joyner пишет: > ^ Message ^ > > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I > don't know how long "forever" is. For me "forever" today was less then 3 minutes. ;-) Here is some stats: --- % cd /usr/obj % grep "World build" bw.amd64.log* bw.amd64.log:>>> World build started on Fri Jan 13 17:42:07 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log:>>> World build completed on Fri Jan 13 17:44:45 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.0:>>> World build started on Thu Jan 12 20:55:07 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.0:>>> World build completed on Thu Jan 12 21:00:37 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.1:>>> World build started on Thu Jan 12 11:54:28 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.1:>>> World build completed on Thu Jan 12 11:59:43 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.2:>>> World build started on Wed Jan 11 14:41:59 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.2:>>> World build completed on Wed Jan 11 14:46:36 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.3:>>> World build started on Wed Jan 11 13:15:03 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.3:>>> World build completed on Wed Jan 11 13:59:01 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.4:>>> World build started on Sun Jan 8 17:21:15 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.4:>>> World build completed on Sun Jan 8 17:30:30 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.5:>>> World build started on Sat Jan 7 21:27:06 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.5:>>> World build completed on Sat Jan 7 23:37:25 MSK 2017 bw.amd64.log.6:>>> World build started on Thu Dec 22 13:19:08 MSK 2016 bw.amd64.log.6:>>> World build completed on Thu Dec 22 13:40:22 MSK 2016 --- With "WITH_META_MODE=yes" at /etc/src-env.conf it's rather sane time. But not if clang or like changes. :-( The machine is: --- FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #39 r312075: Fri Jan 13 17:47:05 MSK 2017 bsam@bb055.bsnet:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BB64X amd64 FreeBSD clang version 3.9.1 (tags/RELEASE_391/final 289601) (based on LLVM 3.9.1) VT(vga): resolution 640x480 info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz (3092.27-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x206a7 Family=0x6 Model=0x2a Stepping=7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x1d9ae3bf AMD Features=0x28100800 AMD Features2=0x1 XSAVE Features=0x1 VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory = 8136523776 (7759 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 hardware threads [...] ada1 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada1: Serial Number Z1D5Y0X8 ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) ada1: quirks=0x1<4K> --- HTH & WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 20:57:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1127ECAEE95 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9118C170E for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id c85so14287530wmi.1 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:57:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=gMwYJYvsAA/KG4j6j3v5L8tW/kZ3F8WQ6StYUa2Bz08=; b=vXS8/OI3BNObG7Olb+aZ+jqllpUnXzz53GA6XebqpZJx1xUWhZkvcHAH+m3PxezSpv qMCUpYNTrjwXapl69TnQc+US56kSHxxGITzZCbVW3Dxw7NexByKZWwbaRw/zuW3/uzlg /Zhs3y7rF6vTb9uV+KyqhhYcH6KuDbXeXEue1l+KVExqkYuN10XHhD8MYa2NAw0AEAqN J23HNqC40KpH+wJFX+zUeuwH4qKaQ3ObSOYOVnjsyIV/8b65n8XjApdpR9sFoXAxElr6 yBiMffDrj6jmvJrCMuHzK8zLpiTfnlZYQ7oU9A7d40a1wHi5aXGJgYvRs7au9rFvnZDJ ePrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=gMwYJYvsAA/KG4j6j3v5L8tW/kZ3F8WQ6StYUa2Bz08=; b=s+zaJptlskZ6uc1DqH0Cffy7aOYW3mGsFsBaXKLnqTVi8FWrgRF3MoGdZ44v68hr+b VUisS+pHmvoohJPeJiHqbJBdWU/m61KPLuFyf12QuxXSIa2s0Ud3tRogCzwBEd1uLa6Q EXSfIiTIEap8sVc3j3xKQ7rKNJIilCh3zvrtCVsZQt9DRSy9duhDA2AJTvRaJkdYeZH7 mCDyVek09BPfjXzunIIzniMOWQjvINrwl00pcJFUCXB62DPHeaiEsjIryecs72dmwnM3 kL7JzXgFOxCvMhqaxknrteeZzSmfHHx3KWzDqcR1CcUMNMSusnmjz+zwN/dhg7kLh3Mr 5F5w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXL1Ul87m9RUpiii/ks25a0ole2ORk8P+asqlFOI6d9AdsyjE0R0+cYOaIXgi9+TGQ== X-Received: by 10.223.173.43 with SMTP id p40mr13382211wrc.163.1484341052837; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ip4d16c090.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de. [77.22.192.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y127sm6827884wmg.12.2017.01.13.12.57.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastian Schwarz To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [no spam] ramifications_of_tweaks_to_subject_line :) - Was: ramifications of tweaks to subject line In-Reply-To: <20170112212903.183c8015@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20170112183632.GP26386@mailboy.kipshouse.net> <20170112211912.1ca1a74e@archlinux.localdomain> <20170112212903.183c8015@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:57:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87a8auu18l.fsf@domain.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:57:35 -0000 On 2017-01-12, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > There's a rather complicated document out there somewhere that > details how to do robust threading that takes account of this, > and it does include the subject. Whether any clients are > still using this algorithm I don't know. You might be thinking of https://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html. mu implements that: https://github.com/djcb/mu/blob/67f74d44b0f525e6e588baf08c62cdaf668399fd/lib/mu-threader.c#L27 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 22:27:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B677CAEC39 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ua0-x229.google.com (mail-ua0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 058FF1DE7 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: by mail-ua0-x229.google.com with SMTP id y9so47011260uae.2 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:27:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=my-gd.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uj2iLZ79MCWH5AcQAkNWeFTEnMEIOfb5b2GMIP1rP3A=; b=BiUsuGIf7HXJvSCRYGOMD/pNrcm8hVucjqWElZsqd/jpBRM92cUIgXmhRAgRhdKmN/ iag9cyup87r4fVnns/i1loAokGXYzAfGnX0IKgzqV+3JehIYVMDhYKMGrmQZg8XrCdo8 eaEfTK+MfzLtsoynhBlin+X40PCJpeO1yaqyQahUR3KEYqjHuL6C1tBqgQa4l4gEGHAV QUxFgyUoyfXk1BW5kRDuoso0SsEKXHxMR4sG+yxvPQv6CNhEdhsNyRBXBwG7d3o7n/AC EJrIMwcLuyR+SClgiD0cqeQmvV64HwhPQeeul++bnilhsnTHFYEuf8vnQRLXsGuBwDeK vY3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uj2iLZ79MCWH5AcQAkNWeFTEnMEIOfb5b2GMIP1rP3A=; b=NgWHIJVuPSNcfiWyt5Ir6AwqeUxdtrwiMZcD/KetJlpTKwdQXKpblTNGdJWohhl2fg KpNa9ovpKugPZnemniOZsnz9gx0P1PZoFg2woAWDuHI+mcrHW3umjxmVwqehsxMB3Ul0 AWixTXJu730x1PlCL1HqXyt4kQDOII3RayD6BpSWR3ZgGYYAOvayW9XVvJrBfW3X6U1J K5e+1v+Vw5YFZJJKQNTF/tFl8TVYwsfvQ2xCZbfsm94xx7UCxzoWcVm6bkPqYCBPuzuj ozF2fT3qs1wNjuKPsS5HE8AZ0vDxm+l92TPzjs9xv5+lhFgH5HYaw1jEhDpoY4g4iX3o oQLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLIz4EqMeERE52ejii5YPzwvCMlwThR4XHcxEl/5krohLkaPPSfEsNoXsul5NuDhuDm4GwoA4NiwRwpEg== X-Received: by 10.176.1.119 with SMTP id 110mr9847805uak.143.1484346461135; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:27:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.48.213 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:27:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:27:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? To: Boris Samorodov Cc: Eric Joyner , freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:42 -0000 On 13 January 2017 at 21:46, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 13.01.2017 23:23, Eric Joyner =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> ^ Message ^ >> >> It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so= I >> don't know how long "forever" is. > > For me "forever" today was less then 3 minutes. ;-) > Here is some stats: > --- > % cd /usr/obj > % grep "World build" bw.amd64.log* > bw.amd64.log:>>> World build started on Fri Jan 13 17:42:07 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log:>>> World build completed on Fri Jan 13 17:44:45 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.0:>>> World build started on Thu Jan 12 20:55:07 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.0:>>> World build completed on Thu Jan 12 21:00:37 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.1:>>> World build started on Thu Jan 12 11:54:28 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.1:>>> World build completed on Thu Jan 12 11:59:43 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.2:>>> World build started on Wed Jan 11 14:41:59 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.2:>>> World build completed on Wed Jan 11 14:46:36 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.3:>>> World build started on Wed Jan 11 13:15:03 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.3:>>> World build completed on Wed Jan 11 13:59:01 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.4:>>> World build started on Sun Jan 8 17:21:15 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.4:>>> World build completed on Sun Jan 8 17:30:30 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.5:>>> World build started on Sat Jan 7 21:27:06 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.5:>>> World build completed on Sat Jan 7 23:37:25 MSK 2017 > bw.amd64.log.6:>>> World build started on Thu Dec 22 13:19:08 MSK 2016 > bw.amd64.log.6:>>> World build completed on Thu Dec 22 13:40:22 MSK 2016 > --- > > With "WITH_META_MODE=3Dyes" at /etc/src-env.conf it's rather sane time. > But not if clang or like changes. :-( > > The machine is: > --- > FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #39 r312075: Fri Jan 13 17:47:05 MSK 2017 > bsam@bb055.bsnet:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BB64X amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 3.9.1 (tags/RELEASE_391/final 289601) (based on > LLVM 3.9.1) > VT(vga): resolution 640x480 > info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz (3092.27-MHz K8-class CPU) > Origin=3D"GenuineIntel" Id=3D0x206a7 Family=3D0x6 Model=3D0x2a Step= ping=3D7 > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > Features2=3D0x1d9ae3bf > AMD Features=3D0x28100800 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 > XSAVE Features=3D0x1 > VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) > avail memory =3D 8136523776 (7759 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 hardware threads > [...] > ada1 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > ada1: Serial Number Z1D5Y0X8 > ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > ada1: quirks=3D0x1<4K> > --- > 'kay you got me curious here guys. Building 10-STABLE on a KVM with 2 CPU cores, 4gb of RAM and UFS filesystem with noatime takes actual, literal *hours* here. I think I build with debug + dtrace userland though, so that might extend the build time somewhat... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 22:27:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CB3CAEC71; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp9.server.rpi.edu (smtp9.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "canit.localdomain", Issuer "canit.localdomain" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33EC51E73; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.231]) by smtp9.server.rpi.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v0DMRoS2012474 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:27:50 -0500 Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE9658011; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead-qc124.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: drosih) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2929958004; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:27:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Garance A Drosehn" To: "Eric Joyner" Cc: freebsd-questions , "FreeBSD Current" Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:27:49 -0500 Message-ID: <61BD7C27-CD12-4082-89EE-F206D6F889F7@rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5319) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outgoing, @@RPTN) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 10.10] X-CanIt-Incident-Id: 02SvWrONN X-CanIt-Geo: ip=128.113.124.17; country=US; region=New York; city=Troy; latitude=42.7495; longitude=-73.5951; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7495,-73.5951&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.229 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:27:53 -0000 On 13 Jan 2017, at 15:23, Eric Joyner wrote: > ^ Message ^ > > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, > so I don't know how long "forever" is. I have scripts which do buildworld's for me, and they keep all kinds of extra information for each step (buildkernel, installkernel, buildworld, installworld). Unfortunately I haven't been building world very much lately, and I haven't built anything on release-11. I do build on older hardware, so it takes a long time. (hours, iirc) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosih@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 22:32:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A6CAE348; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp9.server.rpi.edu (smtp9.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "canit.localdomain", Issuer "canit.localdomain" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08AE019D4; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (route.canit.rpi.edu [128.113.2.231]) by smtp9.server.rpi.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v0DMWjrK013742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:32:46 -0500 Received: from smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB96758011; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead-qc124.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: drosih) by smtp-auth1.server.rpi.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF18958010; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:32:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Garance A Drosehn" To: "Eric Joyner" Cc: freebsd-questions , "FreeBSD Current" Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:32:45 -0500 Message-ID: <64F46DD3-600E-4E33-8CC1-5A29C1B39C46@rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <61BD7C27-CD12-4082-89EE-F206D6F889F7@rpi.edu> References: <61BD7C27-CD12-4082-89EE-F206D6F889F7@rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; markup=markdown X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5319) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outgoing, @@RPTN) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 10.10] X-CanIt-Incident-Id: 02SvWwJS5 X-CanIt-Geo: ip=128.113.124.17; country=US; region=New York; city=Troy; latitude=42.7495; longitude=-73.5951; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7495,-73.5951&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.229 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:32:48 -0000 On 13 Jan 2017, at 17:27, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > On 13 Jan 2017, at 15:23, Eric Joyner wrote: > >> ^ Message ^ >> >> It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, >> so I don't know how long "forever" is. > > I do build on older hardware, so it takes a long time. (hours, iirc) Here's some sample stats from a build of 9.3-stable back in May: start=2016-0505-15:30:49 real=9531.41 user=7850.36 sys=920.24 duration=9531 outsize=27322524 target='buildworld' start=2016-0505-18:09:53 real=1713.81 user=1323.83 sys=162.50 duration=1713 outsize=4611462 target='buildkernel' start=2016-0505-18:38:32 real=41.59 user=13.56 sys=4.68 duration=41 outsize=119067 target='installkernel' start=2016-0505-18:42:38 real=161.52 user=35.09 sys=17.70 duration=161 outsize=1235184 target='installworld' -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosih@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 22:48:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA42DCAE9AB; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x243.google.com (mail-pf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A3061325; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id b22so10037925pfd.3; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=K4DHTsvlHxNBLKQObLAk01GwjDAaScHfWK/JPnLdXbg=; b=BbmqyxKSdOU+CGAm3DZwzTc91+sB6z0cwmDEA0hzNv//u4gk5inAwt3d60G/fZqCx9 MoMXLQ9JuCSvk/kW0dVdo5J8BX1E/hw92aeI/qIX2zsJXxOdYDofmeCztu5tPVigqjrD mOfNd4hkJxdK0nER+X9K8VU0UqXdRyIQmsWm/ztf7a1i97tIUv4GxXBgAcmtfuleUN7Q wAmOgMRs0HzVMvdDuvVj6CeAJl8rTdxHWV2tlqmzWD0ExgvYkztfZtAfK5rFBLJhN129 NSUE3ty3Mkvsf4WK/mnRq11Ot+PnD1ccp+NGmq6fCwAUXCh0AlQ49+Tc3NrRHq4pYv0n grvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=K4DHTsvlHxNBLKQObLAk01GwjDAaScHfWK/JPnLdXbg=; b=gqi8bgCXrkOQZ8iQWxovX9SyRqJrPS9JKdujbYrAevN1HfhRFB1xXc4UtcPGKZcG9H j0YsRKjSvFZ2pMWKVHidAzTLzd7b552Rhdmg4uEIl0uuh4BvqePRLw7fDbJKJ1sSVUUt 7Av9sYqIm49+tf1QsBAViDtuNzOnIkcz94EgnXWT7Emspe2VInjXlKutEw6uyOEqcW8s 45RBlpeZxKMRHZix9F+d21t21Yx1io+ljC8DbWpqt2D0jch3ubcZ5xSaeWlV9nZlLORU 8TIShoMNO2WD+0iH/KMs7HJn1SbwqcGszG8TsQKhmUldfWdEICq2sRiC0hYjymvbf4pJ IgnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI4i/R9ol0Ks6SxgeqZgYZ0sqR763ezUBSGWrgZJiVrDelqxZotBG9d1Bg1Lc4m8A== X-Received: by 10.84.215.194 with SMTP id g2mr33141352plj.16.1484347727025; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinklady.local (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_37BAE0A7-9B7B-48BE-B95C-8EB5D81D42C5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:48:45 -0800 Cc: freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Message-Id: <7985A04D-3BA3-42A2-A616-A087CF937183@gmail.com> References: To: Eric Joyner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:48:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_37BAE0A7-9B7B-48BE-B95C-8EB5D81D42C5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:23, Eric Joyner wrote: >=20 > ^ Message ^ >=20 > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, = so I > don't know how long "forever" is. Using -DNO_CLEAN on my 12.0-CURRENT / amd64 / 3GB RAM / 3 cores / VMware = Fusion + open-vmtools VM=E2=80=A6 - =E2=80=A6 buildworld with special baked WITHOUT/MK options in = src.conf: 26 mins - =E2=80=A6. buildkernel of GENERIC/GENERIC-NODEBUG with stripped = src.conf and MODULES_OVERRIDE: 14 minutes Overall time: 40 minutes Granted, I=E2=80=99m pretty up-to-date (just upgrading a few hundred = revs at a time), but a from-scratch build on more ample = Sandybridge/Haswell hardware with SSDs shouldn=E2=80=99t take any longer = than 30 mins (if you optimize things heavily, it can be less than that). If you need a beefy box to play with for building en masse (since = you=E2=80=99re a FreeBSD dev), try the universe*.freebsd.org boxes. 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[73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n86sm31498467pfb.45.2017.01.13.14.51.52 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:51:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F3926570-0855-46D3-AF00-C4A02D5CF8F2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" In-Reply-To: <7985A04D-3BA3-42A2-A616-A087CF937183@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:51:51 -0800 Cc: freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Message-Id: References: <7985A04D-3BA3-42A2-A616-A087CF937183@gmail.com> To: Eric Joyner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:51:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F3926570-0855-46D3-AF00-C4A02D5CF8F2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 13, 2017, at 14:48, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:23, Eric Joyner wrote: >>=20 >> ^ Message ^ >>=20 >> It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, = so I >> don't know how long "forever" is. >=20 > Using -DNO_CLEAN on my 12.0-CURRENT / amd64 / 3GB RAM / 3 cores / = VMware Fusion + open-vmtools VM=E2=80=A6 > - =E2=80=A6 buildworld with special baked WITHOUT/MK options in = src.conf: 26 mins > - =E2=80=A6. buildkernel of GENERIC/GENERIC-NODEBUG with stripped = src.conf and MODULES_OVERRIDE: 14 minutes >=20 > Overall time: 40 minutes >=20 > Granted, I=E2=80=99m pretty up-to-date (just upgrading a few hundred = revs at a time), but a from-scratch build on more ample = Sandybridge/Haswell hardware with SSDs shouldn=E2=80=99t take any longer = than 30 mins (if you optimize things heavily, it can be less than that). >=20 > If you need a beefy box to play with for building en masse (since = you=E2=80=99re a FreeBSD dev), try the universe*.freebsd.org boxes. Important note: unless I have a good reason to test out GENERIC, I = always used GENERIC-NODEBUG, so needless to say witness and other debug = bits don=E2=80=99t add time to my build. Thanks, -Ngie --Apple-Mail=_F3926570-0855-46D3-AF00-C4A02D5CF8F2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYeVoIAAoJEPWDqSZpMIYVkIcQAKxI9LMwW4qLF5uYQZIEAFNa vQn8dDmYlq007+UNQzn2/ytTLSj/Bzg3fl9Xi7HC9OVKHP2YdidBM7GfKWraCYYs 5yqc4I3nLPDUQ1EKrSkxzWe0zhvKWFh2zEZC4ZQJghv9YPIA1m8SSB8eFlJ/Yvjo +FYFJejq6Tms+wvN4oHIAaRQq4liPejWG4bBF7MLxxpDv4JNSMgjaWwUs5QG9LBk mw+JSVi1lFvGpaSDnSSnzvWNmLRAaRS8rC5G2RNnt5gOc8mwSIYj7ERhV+aKrrvJ PIAHvsav8dmYQi8bufenfbHtfb2+30V8F7pUKr7BmYNt3q6PEvtMf28p5nT/W/To mz4iueKWuEqUVVbappmf9BrVQjj+E9YoMR8LiNbuzrslO8oy/ou+69KfdiigltyL swduE3r89I7Toa0aiKnkqzwewXmecr60Kqan7CsxFVzYPNDjOqYc+9tIE2HNMNqN /KA+fOygEegnH1jJGgRHZVUZema9GR00uzyiyXJWWOA9DbRuSopLI7cxoJneuTPy gYJAsDPWaVn+qJiZQRd0wmqpahv4SIQcVVwJn+wIgQaWBl2jgWGwom1r5FTUHd0y S/LXGxz7O0CHDo7qiX+03XOTlkQI6zFtwcqTpDZQKNRdTJecD96XbD2R8kcWu4lr n6OC0uEb3H20BbyV/Ufk =UL40 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F3926570-0855-46D3-AF00-C4A02D5CF8F2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 23:32:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3A6CAE195 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 635951BD4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04AC6228F; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n0dVRB4Yjekq; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43ECD62286; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484316346; bh=AYjTz58oBaaG59dpJowSnu4BmRJHrsc5WXy2PtuR4BY=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=pnS3DiBPWOFBeDGY8S9JJYFsa85eyNTqYOnC8Z9pNT6rbi7Vev+zejNt0TuOi5C8u NlOrkBwCA/yfBaeVdbYD9WwNrzsRQIw6qZg9+KRXskfRSF+4FGL+WsuK9VNFZfLy9d itfqmmaGojGqfbxJ+vzHSPwlEK/vfo1HlI9TBB1Y/he+z7LUoOZoWLnarISjLozdzP qCqbe6sfC/wNc3J+fBGNExZgNQUeKY8YanKHLw6xoz5z2PYqlYW+JdW/dD+3TLYIZN fJDvBHX/Ww0RN9Y6kHTiCQSn/xY+SZzWJgDdJXFhFZWRLPouSAmsJzFz2LEIIrXKNz yt0Q6L2SXm+xQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: <2ad6c8d4892981f0123799f6789206cd.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <34435.128.135.52.6.1484263940.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <23452361f18e06fccb64293d30f1b6eb.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <34435.128.135.52.6.1484263940.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:46 -0500 Subject: Re: spamassassin not lethal anymore From: "James B. Byrne" To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:32:14 -0000 On Thu, January 12, 2017 18:32, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > I have one question and one comment to your suggestion. > > Question: why spammers would go to your lower priority MX > instead of first going to your primary MX? Is that because > on primary and only on primary you have greylisting? Why > not to have greylisting on all MX serving your > domain then? I'm in darkness about the logic behind doing it. > The purpose of diverting spam noise to non-existent hosts is to lower the load on actual MX machines. It was noted by anti-spam advocates that in a significant number of cases spambot programs were targeting lower (lowest actually) priority MX services from the outset. The motivation for this behaviour is uncertain. Hypothetically it might be that spammers belive that secondary MX systems are frequently not as well protected as the the primary. Whatever the cause the effect was noted. Since most spam programs do not implement the SMTP particularly well it is believed that by stone-walling the first connection attempt from such scripts they would simply go on to their next target domain. Last year we were under a considerable assault from spam and I was given this idea from the SpamAssassin list. I may also have had it mentioned to me on the Postfix list but I cannot be certain. In any case, after implementing this we were able to detect a measurable drop in connection attempts to our actual MX services. All of our 'real' MX hosts are protected with exactly the same tools, including Postgrey and SpamAssassin with Amavis-new, and all are configured to the same degree of hardening. However, a packet not handled is a cycle saved for some useful work and diverting any amount of bogus traffic to a non-listening port works for us. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 23:42:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A55CAE6D3 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BCC31600 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6E362290 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:04:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YuZ8amOd6sM3 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DFDE62286 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:04:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484337895; bh=0YI92K8Q95VALbzz6KcSweSCyuVtG9cDh3siRERANf0=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=MnQv9y3R9hLhCRd1lJ7cRgi1pRpI1WMFIgjKkdLQv2DwvJZNU0N0xWI643NtcG7P6 MXaPy+YsuLW5m30iGs6fLwvANIR65EIDaQmAKi3j91HcJ9O4CPQzzqy+rp37gZ2CWY Fay+7wOtNjoYV2D7iOisWHwHsjaGsYR0FviM36aV1MC+c9g0hfO+m86sgJ9v2+KlvS J50K9lRLpo+o7cEMSy8vFgs6HZKLTvQjyboSlCqOm0GJO/5oirPDOf8p/FLOn0fdxD c8C1FD+r2tyoDdRwJpejczOuPa+r9cXTVRTsMi7+EvXa/tTbOW+sHW//fzr4vuFXHB d/Xg5PKEhT3vA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:04:55 -0500 Subject: Network problems at FreeBSD.org? From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:42:08 -0000 Now I am getting this message: The mail system : host mx1.freebsd.org[8.8.178.115] said: 450 4.7.25 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [216.185.71.28] (in reply to RCPT TO command) This also started to show up yesterday. Is there something going on with DNS somewhere? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 13 23:52:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F8ECAEBC5 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD3B01211 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FDD62291 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:55:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDMWTVHpOM-3 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C4CF62286 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:55:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484330152; bh=6LjnZFYRpWKp4A+nc24BCCUhtLyUxfIIJF5iLkVXmbM=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=Z7VKRLXfMSKBzpctgspmIQkBaZimYXogdqXxLaoJ9RPLN4PGn3Tjal5khb5WaQpp2 z3PV8w8Jb+crCHUo9T/yXDvfQmNbxpcS9Pg5afBlEEO5U+acWiluIpRLfswlUz2SfW C5iYh406E26YbBcRi1hooVs091sBYZUwjG6CPr9yj8Dj4oly9/IJUeU+J+qJJSdcPK UUnotWbgjuEqxSXpBtXIIKRLFwlSrNbatNogh3B46X51VDaMKHaod5fzSaxTcGQeUD P/ahkytdXd3vjM9eIqwniDVRjbdGFdOtzXndM4T8AtmEcpiph+WwNSqpHkeW/HXXJB p+rr7jvGBahqQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:55:52 -0500 Message-ID: <52330042975551414b91ef27b3b32c81.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:55:52 -0500 Subject: Network problems at FreeBSD.org? From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:52:09 -0000 Yesterday I began receiving these error messages from our MTA: This is the mail system at host inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca. #################################################################### # THIS IS A WARNING ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. # #################################################################### Your message could not be delivered for more than 0 hour(s). It will be retried until it is 5 day(s) old. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system : connect to mx1.freebsd.org[2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]:25: Network is unreachable Now, I realise that this is a temporary failure and evidence indicates that my messages eventually get through. However, I also note that the address given in the error message is in IPv6 notation and I am aware that our ISP presently does not provide IPv6 capability. Has something happened at the mailing list end to causes these errors to begin to appear? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 00:07:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F34CAE50C for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3818F1A21; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7149962285; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:39:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fKzyagQOADkZ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC68D622A3; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:39:36 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484343577; bh=VdEbMdKFg3UMK5MIFUuFHXSfRqaK/DrCJXCBqfEqHMY=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=Llk+A6rWYb/GbtBdzsha4NlhR+7YV9bDZe4yYQIxJ/5WX5vNA3Mf5a2KY9+6OYp2/ VKfQMDNQKyc+0VeECPIiLmRMIy6Szkp6tA+WelBgAy2Uph+IBO1gTubKsdSTSUjrhI Wd43d1aq6ybmCan7HidGNtQer5Dp7uR1I4NqHr34fpW/gMenymUGHL+8kRXiH6fO6s 5i2HqFT8uMIw8ClITZdChFHC+YfGQUDbH0UzQ17j1jWEesv97+alUZm7Lsev2Gv4E/ 0m3Gy4Gl7r9RLCBoOvVCGoMsXHSL57E7P0zZzIn0P0l8ma82VyHzw2vT+/sJnuKlpT VNzvuSnfr/DjA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: <8c89bd7186acad75c5e4050da3e90a22.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:39:37 -0500 Subject: Re: pkg management From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:07:09 -0000 On Fri, January 13, 2017 02:52, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > postgresql93 is the default version of postgresql in ports at the > moment. If you're using the standard system packages then anything > that > depends on postgresql will cause the installation of > postgresql93-client, and result in the effect you described. If you > want to use postgresql96 instead, then you need to build your own > packages > Which is exactly what I am trying to do. However, what once worked when building a port with a different default version for postgesql no longer does. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne" Cc: Matthew Seaman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:10:47 -0000 On 13 January 2017 at 22:39, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Fri, January 13, 2017 02:52, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> >> postgresql93 is the default version of postgresql in ports at the >> moment. If you're using the standard system packages then anything >> that >> depends on postgresql will cause the installation of >> postgresql93-client, and result in the effect you described. If you >> want to use postgresql96 instead, then you need to build your own >> packages >> > > Which is exactly what I am trying to do. However, what once worked > when building a port with a different default version for postgesql no > longer does. > James you got anything in make.conf with regards to the PG version you want to use ? https://wiki.freebsd.org/DEFAULT_VERSIONS From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 00:11:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F06CAE90E for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E1E1E2A for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by zoom.lafn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33AAB34AEB9; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:54:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Network problems at FreeBSD.org? From: Doug Hardie X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:54:39 -0800 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3F449409-E997-4EFB-AC47-ADA2BD736163@lafn.org> References: To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:11:01 -0000 > On 13 January 2017, at 12:04, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions = wrote: >=20 > Now I am getting this message: >=20 > The mail system >=20 > : host mx1.freebsd.org[8.8.178.115] > said: 450 > 4.7.25 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, > [216.185.71.28] (in > reply to RCPT TO command) >=20 >=20 >=20 > This also started to show up yesterday. Is there something going on > with DNS somewhere? I have been getting that sporadically for a few weeks now. freebsd.org = is the only mail server that I send to that has the issue. Some things = I found on Google indicated it was caused by either an incorrect RDNS = entry or SPF entry. I have no effective control over the RDNS and = correcting the SPF entry had no effect. =E2=80=94 Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 00:17:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033D8CAEC81 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB651320 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA00A622B2 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:39:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rcSyZZ099zUs for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E96662286 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:39:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484339953; bh=jdRKtgOSmU8Lu3BErCr4VsgE408nMkQULfLom2Gtlbk=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=l+K7eMqnE0Wtbhf5MQSt7bBaDL9e4pBqWXX8tAtBO1sZMoiC+fFwmI0VvkqvTVFus 4yzcUqoaajhQvjLflzmg8/hD7bK1rEeNeuXqYbbRjN53Bhqc0GiVedsBhRh2HRNcD+ J4jP3zgFt2w9MSRdd2UPFRwQTN3gDZaIbBk+0L3lNq+821fEwWfeZzRiJywU+5dTEf H7/a/103NmOW1Cg6LBtTBlm6j2XTqSCc5RUGpDSEQWUzL2mlyjRO8Fg3qxbOANx3fF /iFgfo6UaA61qvs9vHyyRHo3U/30y3hu+YWZtvpQTWgFC++c/k6gCUS4rt31eSImu4 I0xkuDoenU5jA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:39:13 -0500 Message-ID: <9759d7e21a401b7f89f9318c1656867e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:39:13 -0500 Subject: A question about php in a jail From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:17:09 -0000 This past week I have been setting up a jail for a drupal7 website. I am now at the point where I need to update the modules and I would like to employ the drush cli utility. To install this on a Drupal7 website it is suggested to run this command in the Drupal document root: php -r "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > drush However, when I run this inside the jail then I see this error, PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on line 1 PHP Warning: readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line 1. If I run the same command on the host system of the jail then I do not get this error. What am I missing with respect to the jailed setup? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 01:33:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4216CAF646 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81EE3162A for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id Y1YT1u00707iGuj011YVd7; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:32:29 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 123c9 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:32:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:32:27 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Damien Fleuriot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [ports] finding an orphan to maintain Message-ID: <20170114013227.GA69119@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20170111110634.GB53285@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20170112164708.GA73939@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:33:43 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 09:21:16PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 12 January 2017 at 17:47, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional input Roland. > >> > >> I currently have my eye on shells/lshell, which we use here on > >> 10-STABLE for PCI-DSS compliance (restricting and logging commands). > > > > In this case you might want to look at auditing; > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/audit.html > > > > While the handbook explains how it works, I haven't really found good e= xamples > > of its use. > > >=20 > I thank you for the input and have indeed already looked at auditd. >=20 > While it does provide very good logging, it only answers one of the > prerequisites, logging, not actual command restriction. There is another (somewhat heavyhanded) approach to restricting commands. You could copy binaries for allowed programs to a special directory (to be = put in $PATH) and remove read/execute access for others from the normal `bin` d= irectories. > We do have another constraint which is that the software be portable > to linux as well, so as to not maintain 2 different sets of > logging/restriction stacks. I thought OpenBSM was ported to Linux, but it seems to miss auditd because = of kernel support. Pity. > >> It so happens the current (0.9.16_2) version on FreeBSD suffers from a > >> nasty case of shell escape : > >> https://github.com/ghantoos/lshell/issues/151 > >> root:~$ echo () sh && echo > >> # > >> ^-- uh oh... > > > > Oops. > > > > Looking at the discussion of the issue, I get the impression that there= are > > some fundamental problems with the way lshell parses and executes comma= nds. > > >=20 > Aye, bug reporter seems quite adamant that, quote, the software is > entirely broken. Not a good sign. And I think he has a point, seeing how lshell uses Python's subprocess module. > >> I cannot seem to reproduce when using the latest master branch, and am > >> seeking confirmation in the bug thread that I'm actually trying to > >> reproduce correctly. > >> > >> If it should transpire that the problem is indeed fixed in the master, > >> I shall try and update the port to the latest version. > > > > The port now uses SourceForge, which is getting a bad reputation these = days > > for adding crap to binary installers. This is probably not an issue with > > tarballs, but it makes me wonder if they are still trustworthy. You mi= ght > > want to consider switching to github. If you do, read > > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk on how to properly do that in the port Makef= ile. > > >=20 > When (if) I manage to get Poudriere up and running (it's currently > bitching about missing /usr/local/share/poudriere/jail.sh), I shall be > able to submit run tests for a patched version of shells/lshell. For just one port, bringing up Poudiere is surely overkill? My workflow for modifying a port is generally as follows (using sysutils/co= nky as an example): > mkdir scratch > cd scratch/ > cp -Rp /usr/ports/sysutils/conky . > cp -Rp /usr/ports/sysutils/conky conky.orig > cd conky/ [Make whatever changes necessary, then run the following tests (from the Porters Handbook) *as a normal user*, unless otherwise (#) indicated] > make stage > make check-orphans > make package > portlint . # make install # make deinstall # pkg add package-filename # pkg delete package-filename When all this works, # make clean > cd .. > diff -ruN conky.orig/ conky/ > patch-for-conky.diff Attach the diff to a PR. > The aim is to bring it up to upstream from github at version 0.9.18. > > Sadly lot of vulns were patched since 0.9.18 and there is no further > release tag. > > I've asked for one today, wait and see. The documentation for github in bsd.sites.mk states that you can use a hash =66rom a commit as a GH_TAGNAME. 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x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 03:15:22 -0000 Le Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:06:02 +0000, Matthew Seaman a =C3=A9crit : > On 01/13/17 09:19, marcel wrote: > > I try to build FreeBSD 11 with libressl instead of openssl. > > I have tried several times but when I type openssl version, I always > > have Openssl freebsd... instead of LibreSSL... > > This time, I've followed this link https://github.com/Sp1l/LibreBSD, > > I've applied the patch, etc but when I make buildworld, it stops > > with this error: > >=20 > > bmake[4]: exec(/bin/sh) failed (Argument list too long) > > *** Error code 1 > >=20 > > Stop. > > bmake[4]: stopped in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto > > *** Error code 1 > >=20 > > [...] > >=20 > > I've searched for this error, but all results report to a > > programation problems, but I am not a developer... > >=20 > > The only things that is different of the LibreBSD github process is > > my make.conf and my src.conf. Here they are: > >=20 > > make.conf > > MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER?=3D4 > > WITHOUT_X11=3DYES > > DOC_LANG=3Den_US.ISO8859-1 > > NO_SENDMAIL=3Dtrue > > WITHOUT_MODULES=3Dng_bluetooth > >=20 > > src.conf > > WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=3Dsound > > WITHOUT_AMD=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_BSDINSTALL=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_FLOPPY=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_GAMES=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_HYPERV=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_ZFS=3Dyes > > WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=3Dyes > >=20 > > So, I don't understand why my make buildworld ends with error... > >=20 > > And I believed that libressl will be native in FreeBSD 11, am I > > wrong ? =20 >=20 > Bernard's LibreBSD project is very much a work in progress, and not > really suitable for people that /aren't/ developers. >=20 > What OS version are you starting from? There are known problems > building 11 on some earlier versions. I recommend that you start by > upgrading to regular FreeBSD 11.0 as supplied by the project -- maybe > even do a clean install on a new drive. Then try Bernard's patches to > build the system with LibreSSL rather than OpenSSL from there. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 >=20 Oooh I thought it was "nearly"-release and ok to build without being developer.=20 First, I tried with FreeBSD 10.3 STABLE but I was not following step by step the process and then I decided to upgrade to FreeBSD 11 STABLE because why not (I know it's a little bit stupid...) and followed step by step the process. What did you mean by regular FreeBSD 11 ? Thanks for reply ! Regards. 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(VPS 170113-1, 01/13/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 04:41:34 -0000 On 1/13/2017 11:55 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > Yesterday I began receiving these error messages from our MTA: > > This is the mail system at host inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca. > > #################################################################### > # THIS IS A WARNING ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. # > #################################################################### > > Your message could not be delivered for more than 0 hour(s). > It will be retried until it is 5 day(s) old. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > : connect to > mx1.freebsd.org[2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]:25: Network is unreachable > > > Now, I realise that this is a temporary failure and evidence indicates > that my messages eventually get through. However, I also note that > the address given in the error message is in IPv6 notation and I am > aware that our ISP presently does not provide IPv6 capability. Has > something happened at the mailing list end to causes these errors to > begin to appear? > Something changed on your end to either cause IPv6 to be attempted, or to send you unhelpful zero-delay warnings. maybe: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#delay_warning_time http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#inet_protocols -- Noel Jones --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 14 11:32:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F4BCAEFEC for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 644FD1DD3 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EEC52549 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/9EEC52549; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11 & libressl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> <51f735a6-1fdc-d669-5516-9662edbb3544@freebsd.org> <20170114041416.177815e2@marcel-laptop> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <8f835d91-fbe7-5ff6-98e9-521805d257a1@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:32:22 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170114041416.177815e2@marcel-laptop> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FBE8LlsONqSJjbVwtQ2GekGI3aUwb68nh" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:32:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FBE8LlsONqSJjbVwtQ2GekGI3aUwb68nh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IfNk3Wox3PRULJphdkDBi9noQHqVtB7hR"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8f835d91-fbe7-5ff6-98e9-521805d257a1@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11 & libressl References: <20170113101931.0924157e@marcel-laptop.lan> <51f735a6-1fdc-d669-5516-9662edbb3544@freebsd.org> <20170114041416.177815e2@marcel-laptop> In-Reply-To: <20170114041416.177815e2@marcel-laptop> --IfNk3Wox3PRULJphdkDBi9noQHqVtB7hR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/01/2017 03:14, marcel wrote: > What did you mean by regular FreeBSD 11 ? FreeBSD from freebsd.org without Bernards patches applied. 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charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:38:33 -0000 On 14 January 2017 at 02:32, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 09:21:16PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> On 12 January 2017 at 17:47, Roland Smith wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> Thanks for the additional input Roland. >> >> >> >> I currently have my eye on shells/lshell, which we use here on >> >> 10-STABLE for PCI-DSS compliance (restricting and logging commands). >> > >> > In this case you might want to look at auditing; >> > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/audit.html >> > >> > While the handbook explains how it works, I haven't really found good examples >> > of its use. >> > >> >> I thank you for the input and have indeed already looked at auditd. >> >> While it does provide very good logging, it only answers one of the >> prerequisites, logging, not actual command restriction. > > There is another (somewhat heavyhanded) approach to restricting commands. > You could copy binaries for allowed programs to a special directory (to be put > in $PATH) and remove read/execute access for others from the normal `bin` directories. > >> We do have another constraint which is that the software be portable >> to linux as well, so as to not maintain 2 different sets of >> logging/restriction stacks. > > I thought OpenBSM was ported to Linux, but it seems to miss auditd because of > kernel support. Pity. > >> >> It so happens the current (0.9.16_2) version on FreeBSD suffers from a >> >> nasty case of shell escape : >> >> https://github.com/ghantoos/lshell/issues/151 >> >> root:~$ echo () sh && echo >> >> # >> >> ^-- uh oh... >> > >> > Oops. >> > >> > Looking at the discussion of the issue, I get the impression that there are >> > some fundamental problems with the way lshell parses and executes commands. >> > >> >> Aye, bug reporter seems quite adamant that, quote, the software is >> entirely broken. > > Not a good sign. And I think he has a point, seeing how lshell uses Python's > subprocess module. > >> >> I cannot seem to reproduce when using the latest master branch, and am >> >> seeking confirmation in the bug thread that I'm actually trying to >> >> reproduce correctly. >> >> >> >> If it should transpire that the problem is indeed fixed in the master, >> >> I shall try and update the port to the latest version. >> > >> > The port now uses SourceForge, which is getting a bad reputation these days >> > for adding crap to binary installers. This is probably not an issue with >> > tarballs, but it makes me wonder if they are still trustworthy. You might >> > want to consider switching to github. If you do, read >> > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk on how to properly do that in the port Makefile. >> > >> >> When (if) I manage to get Poudriere up and running (it's currently >> bitching about missing /usr/local/share/poudriere/jail.sh), I shall be >> able to submit run tests for a patched version of shells/lshell. > > For just one port, bringing up Poudiere is surely overkill? > > My workflow for modifying a port is generally as follows (using sysutils/conky > as an example): > > > mkdir scratch > > cd scratch/ > > cp -Rp /usr/ports/sysutils/conky . > > cp -Rp /usr/ports/sysutils/conky conky.orig > > cd conky/ > [Make whatever changes necessary, then run the following tests (from the > Porters Handbook) *as a normal user*, unless otherwise (#) indicated] > > make stage > > make check-orphans > > make package > > portlint . > # make install > # make deinstall > # pkg add package-filename > # pkg delete package-filename > > When all this works, > > # make clean > > cd .. > > diff -ruN conky.orig/ conky/ > patch-for-conky.diff > > Attach the diff to a PR. > Well, it could be considered overkill in the case of just one package. However, lshell's code has been entirely refactored in 0.9.17 (removing calls to os.system I think it was). That on top of jumping 2 versions at once, sort of justify being extra cautious. Additionally, claiming MAINTAINER'ship over the port means I may have to submit diff files more frequently (although I remain skeptical, see my note at the bottom regarding upstream). Poudriere should help in running unit tests and ensuring the updated port works for everyone, out of the box. Furthermore, you lack context here. We use FBSD 8 and 10 boxes at work for firewalling purposes. These all come standard with nagios, ossec-hids, munin, bacula. Some of them run relayd, others have nginx and/or haproxy. I currently use a dedicated VM for the purposes of : - rebuilding kernel + world with custom src.conf and make.conf options (and custom kernel obviously) - building and upgrading packages from source The goal here is to only use that which we strictly need (which helps WRT PCI-DSS compliance, and reduces our attack surface in case of defects in modules or dependencies). My kernels have no sound or PCMCIA or ISA or wifi, my worlds have no X11 or CUPS, my ports have no NLS or IP6, for example. I currently build said packages manually, every month or important CVE I svnup ports, then portmaster to rebuild, and make the updated packages available over HTTP via nginx to our other boxes. I trust Poudriere is going to help with this process, although I think I shall have to keep 2 separate boxes now : - a -CURRENT box for Poudriere jails including 11.x - and my 10-STABLE box for world and kernel. Last but not least, this gives me an opportunity to : - learn (new, interesting things) - for free (weee) - from people who know better than do I (who better ?) I should be a fool indeed to refuse an offered hand and pass up the opportunity ;) >> The aim is to bring it up to upstream from github at version 0.9.18. >> >> Sadly lot of vulns were patched since 0.9.18 and there is no further >> release tag. >> >> I've asked for one today, wait and see. > > The documentation for github in bsd.sites.mk states that you can use a hash > from a commit as a GH_TAGNAME. > Aye I'd looked into bsd.sites.mk and figured that out mid-week, got a currently working port from the latest commit hash. Sometime this weekend when I'm bored I'll log into the host from work, get 10-STABLE and 11-STABLE jails up, run the port build and finalize this. I'm afraid however there may have been a loss of interest upstream, and I certainly shan't be able to fork/maintain the original lshell program. Thanks for all the feedback Roland ;)