From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 21 07:53:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DF9D77BA5 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 07:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAB614EA for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 07:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:53:38 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-153-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.153.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 287303CBF9; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:53:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v4L7raOV002045; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:53:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 09:53:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mfv@bway.net Cc: mfv via freebsd-questions , RW Subject: Re: GnuPG smart card && geli Message-Id: <20170521095336.bda4180a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170520165636.27ca80d9@gecko4> References: <20170517103822.GB16462@c720-r314251> <20170519101806.1674fda0@gecko4> <20170519161416.68df0fc8@gumby.homeunix.com> <20170519121514.21469751@gecko4> <20170519180708.0c8c6b84@gumby.homeunix.com> <20170520165636.27ca80d9@gecko4> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 91642683488 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1182 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 07:53:49 -0000 On Sat, 20 May 2017 16:56:36 -0400, mfv via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 18:07 RW via freebsd-questions > > wrote: > > > >On Fri, 19 May 2017 12:15:14 -0400 > >mfv wrote: > > > > > >> Is it possible to automatically read a password/passfile during boot > >> up from a USB memory stick without geli? If so, how? > > > >I've never tried mounting geli partitions at boot time but I would > >image you could do it by mounting the stick from fstab and passing the > >appropriate flag in rc.conf. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello RW, > > Thanks for this useful suggestion. It seems feasible for my skill > level. > > I know enough of FreeBSD to edit fstab but am not clear about the > specific settings in rc.conf. I think this pointer is related to the "mount early" and "mount late" mechanisms. The distinction can be made with the "late" option in /etc/fstab, and "boot time" ("mount early") is the opposite. ;-) > As I am not interested in using geli I looked in /etc/defaults/rc.conf > for an appropriate setting but could not find anything that could be > used. Did I miss something? If not, does that mean I have to roll my > own rc script and place it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d? A custom rc.d-style script would provide good contron over _when_ the mount operation should take place. If you want to mount something after normal system startup, you can use /etc/rc.local for scripting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 21 13:31:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FE6D76D1A for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from smtp2.bway.net (smtp2.bway.net [216.220.96.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2E98CB5 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfv@bway.net) Received: from gecko4 (host-216-220-115-148.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp2.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4480E9586E; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:31:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bway.net; s=mail; t=1495373466; bh=bnEkooZYhLH9ZTKuwndmnSq3qnve5JAE9MXPfAOqIPE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To; b=UbnFhcnvoatGDZJW4nKIPHK6HFXmtNYTYfH1IlvfGurp/9pGxQP1T25Dt5chUp0ve iDiPYbNTyuZI4uC1iklRFkd252SGndeQfq2JOYpUFJ3T86iRsUecdqKi0psP0DOPtf tF+5IjpdNdoIkoiFS5SEOnq2Iih29bPzjJtnlwmk= Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 09:31:05 -0400 From: mfv To: Polytropon Cc: RW , mfv via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: GnuPG smart card && geli Message-ID: <20170521093105.018dd27b@gecko4> In-Reply-To: <20170521095336.bda4180a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170517103822.GB16462@c720-r314251> <20170519101806.1674fda0@gecko4> <20170519161416.68df0fc8@gumby.homeunix.com> <20170519121514.21469751@gecko4> <20170519180708.0c8c6b84@gumby.homeunix.com> <20170520165636.27ca80d9@gecko4> <20170521095336.bda4180a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: mfv@bway.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 13:31:09 -0000 > On Sun, 2017-05-21 at 09:53 Polytropon wrote: > >On Sat, 20 May 2017 16:56:36 -0400, mfv via freebsd-questions wrote: >> > On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 18:07 RW via freebsd-questions >> > wrote: >> > >> >On Fri, 19 May 2017 12:15:14 -0400 >> >mfv wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Is it possible to automatically read a password/passfile during >> >> boot up from a USB memory stick without geli? If so, how? >> > >> >I've never tried mounting geli partitions at boot time but I would >> >image you could do it by mounting the stick from fstab and passing >> >the appropriate flag in rc.conf. >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> Hello RW, >> >> Thanks for this useful suggestion. It seems feasible for my skill >> level. >> >> I know enough of FreeBSD to edit fstab but am not clear about the >> specific settings in rc.conf. > >I think this pointer is related to the "mount early" and "mount late" >mechanisms. The distinction can be made with the "late" option in >/etc/fstab, and "boot time" ("mount early") is the opposite. ;-) > > > >> As I am not interested in using geli I looked >> in /etc/defaults/rc.conf for an appropriate setting but could not >> find anything that could be used. Did I miss something? If not, >> does that mean I have to roll my own rc script and place it >> in /usr/local/etc/rc.d? > >A custom rc.d-style script would provide good contron over _when_ >the mount operation should take place. If you want to mount something >after normal system startup, you can use /etc/rc.local for scripting. > > > Hello Polytropon and Matthias, Thanks to Matthias for raising this issue and to Polytropon for these additional tips. Will now delve into a better understanding of the boot process and rc.d scripts. Cheers ... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 21 18:04:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AE7D76E06 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 18:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x22d.google.com (mail-yb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B98D1DDD for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 18:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 187so19752050ybg.0 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DDB1Y58Jv5Q4G6kgD0eZgTlh9jlrf96/39Ec+ryH2Lw=; b=XyD/k6/IEn7Wc0N0Rytx7LZCyoZ0LU0IAPsjPqdqWfav+xkb9N9//ccSljk/Bo7mDX WucI2hh4xELloWYkDcPOK/HC1KWFPkGr+2mKSgpaW/bHIsxhpWA/c8GlieHk0+Mpr7cx 2ytsDtesajsDwjyuf08whserE7TnTW28VSM5Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DDB1Y58Jv5Q4G6kgD0eZgTlh9jlrf96/39Ec+ryH2Lw=; b=bzpiaTnj/dXQ/0I+Fslxzvzx3rbC88yzbsnxaR7n0zzDJzdCx8aGzBv0tuxWweI2ws LnttfclfK8tGCAVro6lWzZzJaN1Ztw1lZI+VadC89HXXZUdgIy4oz0Yp4DVppWIPR2Wj NmeupViPOtfiW1c9ajqMFIoqhL65C4Hr12XNG7X1dbnpZQdM+DiVVigQqui7LjXxEupJ RsMeRfdBae+MBcTEo4tbs42w0R98VV/Wl+1I6jEdgekjyWITZIXsAvPU2ocVcqI79O2z I4V3L4Em0NjnygjVksrmId95MVrGtAGIfWgbKl2r0hMQctZlB2PhfFf1Vb/FYyZXAwkn PfsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCjBlH5VP8rSAcDRZXXzPgxs/7H8az7We6XO9OpQSL1by5jjUrD qq989o6ZyFlSmuIbrix6LsIZQyF7jxTC X-Received: by 10.37.161.196 with SMTP id a62mr16357213ybi.9.1495389882710; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:04:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.173.28 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:04:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 11:04:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Hardware Rec for wireless router running pf-sense / FreeBSD To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Adrian Chadd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 18:04:43 -0000 Hi all, I'm in the market for a new wireless router and I'd like it to run pfsense. Requirements - 802.11ac - OS: pfsense - capable of booting of an SSD Ideally something cheap-mid price, forward compatible, and that will last. Thoughts? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 21 18:37:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A14D77A72 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 18:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x234.google.com (mail-qt0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695B5F0D for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 18:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x234.google.com with SMTP id t26so88015341qtg.0 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:37:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=l665rzb09Ro+HM++QDOViwdYqKuJBXlDFhCOiBEnQ08=; b=lisRx14ejDVN1l1Hxx1LyEtI+Uo8FdkEI/pr+l69cf1DzrqgGSZe9qIEp5K6BMluO/ x/2WaVmVCFcNGf8KFwiZsDKxQ6+KQY8qrvk/cBj8S7c69bVDmChKTevRBW8Qcj/yRa6z 8I4nXA0vXQiQ1hvuQBQRoELqJdOrwNp4075z3SbfVoAUfd8ICmVCMZJKSBletLIJbYcl wSbsjrXoWCwc9MWv/E4Ifx8grycKpVW4lRBpnZGQGfngQ68swWjlQ0BnsqB/Rc3IWsvX qWSk9Jm1PwEME4KQGFfvThxJYP6g83C9kuATKapSVsvTAUiYrnJ4YygKpISCav3iut12 dxeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=l665rzb09Ro+HM++QDOViwdYqKuJBXlDFhCOiBEnQ08=; b=Fu01/A9cMaDFNferLYn9UWeGl0mbRFXbDYYD8edyj7iHyObq3hfatDbW0v15MJu7Q5 zVhv7x1vjUvgqLeWFjdoKobP5o/4OUlcr1kwOOdAVI1Nhc1u6zqyeXANH/i1qXdUs1PY k3WPVnkTvJdSMm/VWuKNLqdQFVEj9Td8buQiCgXX/BcODjAAXHVqm7EuInITupBDnq04 3J3OVySfLGW0S8NkvFTRyMInpf2ByOBWOnh69Db3O8wOEQSZMdZ64ZsbJgPemAtq6zU9 heOtagbxfprms0OKXrABj7IIVP3ILi3VSDCqWgIP2s1QP0x1HA4INceZuy7v8uixhsSG F9CA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCUbokalVeaq4n6Tz6CJMG3vmnlLjZqOaskWuX+8TLljK9YN3Gr IOkgAhMcZ/4/ueEoPjqQn4i5kloJqX8q7zeZRw== X-Received: by 10.200.42.107 with SMTP id l40mr17468967qtl.32.1495391840974; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.40.20 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2017 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Sierchio Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 11:37:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware Rec for wireless router running pf-sense / FreeBSD To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 18:37:22 -0000 On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Eitan Adler > wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm in the market for a new wireless router and I'd like it to run pfsens= e. > Requirements > - 802.11ac > - OS: pfsense > - capable of booting of an SSD > > Ideally something cheap-mid price, forward compatible, and that will last= . > > https://www.pcengines.ch/ If you're attached to the idea of having it all in one box, get the apu2c4 and the necessary pigtails for the box antenna connections. Large capacity SSD mSATA drives are cheap. I generally find that it's better to have a separate access point, esp. w/PoE. 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amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 21:29:58 -0000 On Sun, 21 May 2017 18:46:27 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am on my primary box which is 10.3 amd64. > > I have a couple of filesystem questions : > > a) Mounting ext3 partition with the ext2fs driver works well, but I > see that the kernel does not accept the option discard. Since the > concerned partition is on an SSD, things would be better from my > viewpoint if I could get discard to work. Is there some way in the > coming days to see support for discard ? I doubt it. Since you are using ext3 I presume you sometimes mount it under Linux, in which case just run fstrim occasionally. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 00:28:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4785D77542 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 00:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (host-209-190-254-14.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4128912C7 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 00:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v4M0S83S012890; Sun, 21 May 2017 20:28:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 20:28:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Printer advice In-Reply-To: <20170516062449.a80c020072832c36a0c906a3@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <20170514171907.180a99c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <9fabe602-3f0b-0241-0f49-fb0c0fb27268@bananmonarki.se> <4f51c091-0896-22f9-dbf4-6210dac45853@yahoo.com> <20170515195054.3a97b56ccbbb246888be2d24@sohara.org> <20170515224907.76efed1e@gumby.homeunix.com> <20170516062449.a80c020072832c36a0c906a3@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 00:28:18 -0000 Just to conclude this... I did end up buying the HP M553. Like its predecessor, it's a color laser printer made by HP. It seems that some advances have been made since 2001. The only issue was that I had to change one thing in /etc/printcap - :lp= had to become :lp=9100@snowball (snowball being the printer's hostname). No need for CUPS or ghostscript or filters or anything of the kind. I can `lpr some_text_file` or `lpr some_file.pdf` with impunity, which is all I was looking for. It also prints fine from gnumeric's Print dialog box. After overcoming the printcap thing, I must say I'm pretty much delighted with this printer. It's a little smaller than, and about half the weight of, the 4550. And it is BLAZING fast. From a standby or sleep state, the first page is out in under 10 seconds, compared to a mimute or more with the 4500. I might change my tune when it comes time to buy toner, but for now it's great. Thanks to all who replied. PS: weight-wise, the M553 is 27kg. The old 4550 was 50kg, and, if you'll pardon my French, was a cast-iron bitch to get out the door. On Tue, 16 May 2017, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:49:07 +0100 > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 19:50:54 +0100 >> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >>> I got the Brother binary drivers working easily enough by >>> running CUPS in a Centos userland in a jail. >> >> Whats the advantage of that over using Linux CUPS under >> the ordinary /usr/compat/linux/ Centos install? > > The install scripts work in a jail, using compat you would have to > put everything in place by hand so you might as well use FreeBSD CUPS. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 05:11:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FACD77066; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu [18.9.25.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42AA91520; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) X-AuditID: 1209190d-e73ff7000000547f-81-592271aec2cd Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id F5.DB.21631.EA172295; Mon, 22 May 2017 01:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id v4M55n39024982; Mon, 22 May 2017 01:05:49 -0400 Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id v4M55ihC025472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 May 2017 01:05:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 00:05:44 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Ernie Luzar Cc: FreeBSD questions , "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: having trouble making changes to the handbook Message-ID: <20170522050544.GS39245@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <592041FB.9030408@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <592041FB.9030408@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrAIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrruuUCnS4P09U4tTZ7pYLV5+3cRi cf30JHYHZo8Zn+azeOycdZc9gCmKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK+PM5+eMBe2SFd+PrGZuYGwX6WLk 5JAQMJFYtvgRSxcjF4eQwGImif7XvUwQzkZGiavvmlghnKtMEpvvzGcEaWERUJX4ua+VGcRm E1CRaOi+DGaLANmbtzxlA7GZBYolXjR+YgKxhQWsJF5dWQlWwwu0bvfXeWBxIQENiYfzTrBD xAUlTs58wgLRqyVx499LoBoOIFtaYvk/DpAwp4CmxLlZ98HGiAooS/w9fI9lAqPALCTds5B0 z0LoXsDIvIpRNiW3Sjc3MTOnODVZtzg5MS8vtUjXSC83s0QvNaV0EyMoYDkleXcw/rvrdYhR gINRiYf3xA/FSCHWxLLiytxDjJIcTEqivBudlCKF+JLyUyozEosz4otKc1KLDzFKcDArifDu +wZUzpuSWFmVWpQPk5LmYFES5xXXaIwQEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CycpwcChJ8PIVAA0VLEpNT61I y8wpQUgzcXCCDOcBGm4IUsNbXJCYW5yZDpE/xagoJc6blA+UEABJZJTmwfWCEopE9v6aV4zi QK8I8y4HaecBJiO47ldAg5mABls/kwcZXJKIkJJqYAzzSjJIP6aednJzzcz915bFTdOxcV1x zZ6j4ZR/mcXLvwv6mY6tNlj2/pCEk+22fUfNRGs3TC5w//ErWTe6KOOJsL3fpGsxTh35gmdm lvr5aPuJ3/3LILbOOpX74ATb4xG1r8t37/czTAuyV3J+8+za8xKevpXLPV+kbD4tp5H/pVx8 kZufjxJLcUaioRZzUXEiALYh8K4DAwAA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 05:11:01 -0000 On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 09:17:47AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > I am following the info in this link > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ > > I installed the textproc/docproj package. > > The above link says that svn is installed as part of that port. But it > really is not. Have to use the built in svnlite command. It seems that https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/textproc/docproj/Makefile?revision=420130&view=markup has some logic to not depend on devel/subversion when /usr/bin/svnlite is present in the build environment, which is arguably not the best choice, since the build environment need not match the install environment when pre-built packages are in use. > The shown command > "svnlite checkout https://svn.FreeBSD.org/doc/head ~/doc" > downloads far more items than wanted. This needs better example of just > downloading the desired language version of the handbook plus any > "shared directories" required for "make command" to work. How do I do this? It is intentionally undocumented, as there are multiple parts from the root needed to build a translation tree (in addition to the english sources, which are used when translations do not exist). No one has gone through to enumrate the list and commit to keeping it up to date as the build system changes. That is to say, you are free to attempt it, but it will require some investigation and it will probably be simpler overall to just accept the extra bytes as the cost of convenience. > I ran the "igor -R filename.xml | less -RS" command on the chapter I > wanted to work on before making any changes. To my surprise a bunch of > error are shown. Since these error are all already in the handbook > source I see no reason why I should try to correct them. Just because errors are preexisting they should be ignored instead of fixed? To be clear, no one is going to insist that you fix all issues in a file before adding content to it, but it is also a fine idea to make an initial cleanup patch before starting to do further work. As to how this situation might arise, the existing content is often quite old, and igore is a comparatively new tool (and continues to receive updates), so it is not surprising that there is old content that does not fully comply to the current standards. > When I ran the "make" command the resulting html files are just written > into the directory that "make" was run from. How do I tell "make" to > write the output to a location of my selection? 'make install' should respect DESTDIR, of course, and I think (but did not test) that the usual OBJDIR-manipulation variables would work. > What is really lacking is a way to view the changed output in a command > line browser. Installing a desktop just to view the changed handbook is > not an acceptable solution. But, what would the other location of your selection be that would be differently viewable in a command-line browser than the html files in the build tree? I generally use a browser (desktop or not) to view the html files next to the xml sources, which is usually "good enough" for what I need to do. -Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 05:34:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D64D777D5 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D2281FE1 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 123so8850763wmg.1 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 22:34:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=htHzZixx3wzEaMNvnAI5Rcjp9S3wWdmOq/hwhryfoPM=; b=FhPgT9RSCQi2HlgG2CGU4wAK95K5BLtGmHUjYR1MQmdSuZMd+N9/+oUfp7GGKWImkn YOr5I6u00Uogu1IEqFrq20+A6B2nz9ra/BaWL7Kx7MhJ4OeVOgLZywMvK0wf1Yb8Z4WS qdYdPVskm3VGKwk3UASF6xCOhQQuSvygAnBYYw9yY+VSwWyodPxCqh3Y0Ytd4Shg4sZz 7nmySVZeZY26tmCnNMocDzmPN3T3HJXzVEXZGsT1jz3NPY89xl7ZYyerGZNmuqhe92wU m9TMWFFhglr11S9+dlLhJK8E0EcL3qFx5pRL7XkalF2OuxszLmrlPiC1jlMeq22MUfmF FNsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=htHzZixx3wzEaMNvnAI5Rcjp9S3wWdmOq/hwhryfoPM=; b=eKPT70ylu5rp5NH/QGwONK18Tu0XvJmpGSi63UOTGTXH1Hfq4RioujqBRyVVEhHbTP Q23n05Nd+vninCwAwTSxUFS8XgS3hEXC2hHt368U4SvK2QC7VvgV1UbBy3jpnAX8+y/Q vlh/2wu0n7JgsNVv/Aoc25RYTfYy8WhiCTxGMCJap3gfy9/bR6I/7WB/ajuELZPv1qil l6zJxAhJmNHq7zov0H/Mw1IX1qg8DtihdnRlaLJ/N+cDar1d2e4flt9UBep3syelRFHk 3LAA+S6Kdzpwj6AG5fTl3jRRCAmlMk1Ctsa0P4mOEIrOq2CcBdaNygCu54J0LA4pqkuQ 4r7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBdq4iwuCq8ng9/isC3GPantUStwUERVi7BFKW9sIXJXF2ZVpR4 HnnJ+Mmb7KiTPjn/uBmTybM7rqoWnQ== X-Received: by 10.28.132.76 with SMTP id g73mr13015968wmd.63.1495431239695; Sun, 21 May 2017 22:33:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.172.115 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2017 22:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170520031550.GA34110@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: <8b4c5f79-c389-e7dd-6d3f-3a81bc598e85@casidy.com> <20170520031550.GA34110@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> From: "Jack L." Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 22:33:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD shared web hosting solution? To: The Doctor Cc: freebsd@casidy.com, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 05:34:01 -0000 I provide private hosting for $5/m. shell/ftp based running FreeBSD 11, apache 2.4, php 7.1, mysql 5.7, postfix. Pretty much everything needed to run a CMS with email. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:15 PM, The Doctor wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 04:58:02AM +0200, freebsd@casidy.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It is been years I am using the same web hosting provider and there are >> a few points that bugs me so I am looking for potential new hosting. >> >> I searched online and at https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html and >> was able to find some virtual hosting but not much web hostings. >> >> What I am looking is >> - shared web hosting service >> - running on FreeBSD (or on *BSD) >> - multiple domain names >> - quick quick of mail aliases >> >> I don't want the burden to manage a host and mail/web servers the CMS is >> already enough for me :) >> >> Any 2017 recommendation? >> > > I am current doing that as http://www.nk.ca/ > > However what are you needs? > >> Thanks >> >> Philippe >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca > Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! > https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism > UK Stop Theresa MAy MT V2 and Impotent Corbyn, Vote Farron and LDEm!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 05:40:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3F4D7799C for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-freebsd-questions+freebsd.org@streturns.eu) Received: from mx-out-gi2.emailamp.com (mx-out-gi2.emailamp.com [89.238.184.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 317531119 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 05:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-freebsd-questions+freebsd.org@streturns.eu) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; s=email; d=emailamp.com; h=Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:List-Unsubscribe:From:To:Date: Message-ID:From:To:Subject; t=1495431625; x=1495453225; bh=k+HkIa+JKUQadOz+bfoGtjfUVvWM1Hc8F/EcVual+gU=; b=c1NmybSGrX8UtgXAbVpefZsS+AZULDsr0kZI+altoxEsGbxDosTB0PMAzA7+OwDJ1VgrIM5VqFxk Z0CzVk+Y2vzzvTflnlsnqdAKddvh6Q3ia134fABGwyTGwY6aI8UIG4d2ur8H+ACdfnsuj1LnwI6b c/9kNd7xGO5SEUOC8dlplx6gilzWMV1zKs9jj9/8z2o95R8o3x4oZ2bs3hJ8k1/KQe9JtsbQq7s6 DASG8FICrSCAt9HGI3Wp9KVJYGTZksl6h0TUktBaYg1O2wzrN8XyjtqmdZfxDiaTbrqEJLaJ4ChJ tNgbdwl7cID+f6StjRzHpylbtF1jFdgp/rEuQw== Received: by mx-out-gi1.emailamp.com id h49ssi2akmc8 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 08:37:57 +0300 (envelope-from ) Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Invitatie la dezvoltare - programele de training din perioada urmatoare From: Dynamic Training Solutions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 05:37:33 -0000 Message-ID: <592277bf35692d2321d43b4f@training-info.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 05:40:40 -0000 | ![](http://nl.training-info.ro/6gvfmgs04Y7JPHoyRDEApa9RYFifeZpIkW_GSpqh5d= 9o_CyBWCqpk-mMhyjEur6423nGHQC7bztJquVrbPzkPyp97T_2HTm1Zlwnij6GUlXLpN8HkAAG1= tPRn25Hc26mCl_-y0kt4xataTCc3GPMZ5EfYgatLeEpyudSztb7-epG-Oq6ege1Af6CqQLxgJGV= 3qvJWymrARERSswMFfwiVHtqGMYpWi3q-nh4Id3bQZfcqo8drqUgci6mE8eqCnR7wriOB6gFBrs= ekz2lUv_28jB_imAVTqczKEu3p8Aah6VRAPIDG01E4pCiLpCohhAFs-ViVM6dVjAyOrazit7WA9= _ccOk5Vb9K3yaPzN4ksAQ-LB-hY2nAur6oLr1eA7c12mVR-I6WlKtNVWPMiuItjca6oXLdup6mg= _Fzg9DZweBzGn18jS75-Ki5NVMQNPin7_EqSXii7eEC1MoOklIgVeBL7jtQYo-IskDuBVNab0Af= TcGCRh_VjmLOtv8dZdt_E_Fh0x8TJiV32UPmWNGVy2TrJyo) =20 --- =20 =20 **VREI S=C4=82 FII MAI BUN?** **VREI S=C4=82 =C3=8ENVE=C8=9AI MAI MULT =C3=8ENTR-UN TIMP MAI SCURT?** **Atunci, te invit=C4=83m la cursurile Dynamic Training Solutions!** =20 =20 | **Bine te-am gasit!** Pentru perioada **26 mai - 30 iunie** ti-am pregatit pentru dezvoltarea ta = sau a colegilor tai un numar de **33 programe de training**. 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B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: weird screen problem Message-ID: X-Sender: v.velox@vvelox.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3-beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 06:16:26 -0000 Recently had a power outage and after coming back up I started having the issue with screen below. csh: The terminal database could not be opened. csh: using dumb terminal settings. The odd thing is I don't have any issues with xterm or the like, just screen. So far I've been setting around this via. setenv TERM xterm Any one have any ideas on this? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 06:26:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A266CD78487 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com (mail-vk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B8C31317 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id h16so35446370vkd.2 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:26:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dsnCesgYOnkOOIcKOWwSp4ujtk6EJsXY/hWF45UEt2g=; b=sjJHoJbGAV/1Z7amN6Y275TAaDr5P0xCzTt4/Fneog6QUjSi6FMNInHIwxOiad0NOd 4iUgMsNr2RL+qnb4wORbRHIlxdn82C6aPmDF2P7cyRtnjwNcQswQyXLuUz4Io/GLNxhr QuIxJpBMhUY3RcziKLsAeeVH7UYKjnTNEbhVisQ0JTVUfs3mVPQlZhaRdQlEPlugp60P VvrILW6wUg6KXI+jLz0snYZRRk96jpPVlsSCq0XuuRrxrIebwQhEceJibwp2Va1hr1i7 9SyZHfJOgSoT4ncmNn2Knam0Lk37FUAND88/kvuknHe+gUV+YD5AGOkNzkwl8UD1H09Q Hz6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dsnCesgYOnkOOIcKOWwSp4ujtk6EJsXY/hWF45UEt2g=; b=l+Hyk+x/3dioHfWSdjCNr9ZbtoKngNEyPkyBg+UI2qQ+kp6nD9mhlSox6wjMIOO5Ew m5yjKY7Umnr3vWIx6s0H1WyOykZOcKafTcZ1IWKEamhNyH2BZ8PS+yilegqyP9HFlI7t TlcDjd6O2R6qkHexoe8G1cFoSdDp3vsGyTQrNtmkJLCXHsunjzMc4wbs8i/XhDfiCZaH uBX2zTsbBYjGXLpU9iOla4ciBxzpD5NlKXUGKs+2eEhCXQ6LNr2+q8LcSgPtcO1w7+IB M2FWzher5hJ4adQcZhAUVha1prW7IbEkdH1NGSpeiWFotXyWASp4qtp/lV2lEi1MW0xy 4v8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAWrp87VxEzzuyDqzBr3kK/CEF6eE+mDu0OfYCaQEMU1xMXNASP 61HDxStGtNnegoGjmoSGzHfUmFjYcj+R X-Received: by 10.31.65.73 with SMTP id o70mr6634384vka.85.1495434408351; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:26:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.148.75 with HTTP; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:26:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Aaron Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 23:26:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS root on single SSD? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 06:26:49 -0000 Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services since I haven't worked with either before :) There's a couple of bhyve front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. Really I just need to pick one and run with it. --Aaron On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: > The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As its a > home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I would > imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out weigh > the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are a > really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in > theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as > with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about > availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the contents > regularly. > > On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: > >> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm >> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare SSD. >> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root >> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, >> COW, >> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, even >> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support for >> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). >> >> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? >> >> --Aaron >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >> @freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 06:31:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FE8D78638 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louis@weboptimizes.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com (mail-qk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 706D31786 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louis@weboptimizes.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id u75so98159376qka.3 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=weboptimizes.com; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=w3bb9nyFrFn5E8SvvRNU5A9d/dHTV4evBPOAGcLzDjw=; b=cOssyILK8Ah5ZzUjiV17LbVm4AhqVjBxcngq1vhz3S416cqvEwUALAS+lJQ/OeKoEN 3UMiWStA5S/O52n7qeatOvg1YaU66vlxbLIUs76wppAT5OKODyyeYSGBnSH2bdsj13YJ /qTR7+gsy/8cvLIGJPPAvaSb1GXFFSM6mpVxk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=w3bb9nyFrFn5E8SvvRNU5A9d/dHTV4evBPOAGcLzDjw=; b=UWb0lTM8FlWvsO+wQ/zyOO/2PJy1b648FoJvoQF9QXc11QbSpOh2EERAqhrDqLpPmL geAVGWhWwTXg8NvSc/RfDuCgOF4OQgRcQvDwT7wN0yOTQ0fYcPsDKb6O0zvfrqm518EE LOnsyT2QiYy28un0YAfCsrfc9GdVBmyJLACdzKReUlGe2+2UUBO+51zo595wE9UZSmbK bSAmBqpFEGGFIkvze3l+EQMeZVTX+8aG/VXAOr2tMIw6nkPXvt9wfBvNHd+LNjVag9T9 reV+UqSKfna5F+aSQ791vvw796i9aQ5WK+N+kd5XWilONqHLZIwupA65ODyY4gj02SV/ JYcg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcC+BZKkyamWuZ4A3+jLaxae0xXXaTjCdWeOB87Lua+ffx8/gFHd T8aNf5EwHx4IFAa6H4B5E65IGbXB6vJVx58= X-Received: by 10.55.31.38 with SMTP id f38mr18470311qkf.267.1495434672292; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 52669349336 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 21 May 2017 23:31:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: Louis Parker From: Louis Parker Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 23:31:11 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 58-BYlW5_6wVu7ZO6SUEYDkUPUE Message-ID: Subject: Your Website Needs Attention!! 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To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CD/DVD USB plugin In-Reply-To: <0f844f2e-4188-c98b-4ddb-e832a7e0b681@columbus.rr.com> References: <28aad046-6ef7-fd47-9920-7d7078541de6@columbus.rr.com> <0f844f2e-4188-c98b-4ddb-e832a7e0b681@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <102d0d57f15ef989064131ce85d03111@vvelox.net> X-Sender: vvelox@vvelox.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3-beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 11:30:48 -0000 On 2017-05-10 15:24, Baho Utot wrote: > On 05/10/17 14:02, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 10, 2017, Baho Utot > > wrote: >> >> Does FreeBSD support a USB CD drive? >> >> If so what would be the entry in /dev? >> >> FreeBSD desktop.example.com >> 11.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p9 #0 r316958: Sat Apr 15 >> 09:25:18 EDT 2017 >> root@desktop.example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> Yes, usb devices are supported. To find the device, I would use dmesg >> after plugging in the device to the usb port. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> >> Antonio > > Yes that helped I found it and it works! > "camcontrol devlist" will also show you what USB and SCSI/SAS CD drives have as well. 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[74.141.88.57]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e126sm7805059ioe.12.2017.05.22.09.57.32 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59231887.7090100@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 12:57:43 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Kaduk CC: FreeBSD questions , "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: having trouble making changes to the handbook References: <592041FB.9030408@gmail.com> <20170522050544.GS39245@kduck.kaduk.org> In-Reply-To: <20170522050544.GS39245@kduck.kaduk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 16:57:34 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 09:17:47AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> I am following the info in this link >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ >> >> I installed the textproc/docproj package. >> >> The above link says that svn is installed as part of that port. But it >> really is not. Have to use the built in svnlite command. > > It seems that > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/textproc/docproj/Makefile?revision=420130&view=markup > has some logic to not depend on devel/subversion when > /usr/bin/svnlite is present in the build environment, which is > arguably not the best choice, since the build environment need not > match the install environment when pre-built packages are in use. > > The above reply makes no sense to me. svnlite is included in the base OS release. So it's there in the build & install environment by default. Are you trying to say the textproc/docproj port is in error and should be fixed to install subversion as a dependent? I used the OS default svnlite to checkout the whole doc tree and manually updated the desired chapter source through creating the diff file without any problems. Please expand and clarify your point. >> The shown command >> "svnlite checkout https://svn.FreeBSD.org/doc/head ~/doc" >> downloads far more items than wanted. This needs better example of just >> downloading the desired language version of the handbook plus any >> "shared directories" required for "make command" to work. How do I do this? > > It is intentionally undocumented, as there are multiple parts from > the root needed to build a translation tree (in addition to the > english sources, which are used when translations do not exist). > No one has gone through to enumerate the list and commit to keeping > it up to date as the build system changes. That is to say, you are > free to attempt it, but it will require some investigation and it > will probably be simpler overall to just accept the extra bytes as > the cost of convenience. > > My post never voiced anything about the different translations of the English version of the handbook. There is a separate doc on translations. My interpretation of your reply is that it is technicality possible to checkout the desired handbook source based on language and them checkout the parts of the master doc tree needed to "make" the html code version. That to date, nobody has updated the https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ to include this information and I am free to do so. >> I ran the "igor -R filename.xml | less -RS" command on the chapter I >> wanted to work on before making any changes. To my surprise a bunch of >> error are shown. Since these error are all already in the handbook >> source I see no reason why I should try to correct them. > > Just because errors are preexisting they should be ignored instead > of fixed? To be clear, no one is going to insist that you fix all > issues in a file before adding content to it, but it is also a fine > idea to make an initial cleanup patch before starting to do further > work. > > As to how this situation might arise, the existing content is often > quite old, and igor is a comparatively new tool (and continues to > receive updates), so it is not surprising that there is old content > that does not fully comply to the current standards. > So "igor" is am independent application whose purpose is intended for informational use only. It does not inhibit the flow of making changes. It may be skipped all together. If something is really codded incorrectly the "make" process will fail with very limited feedback about the what it doesn't like and "igor" may used to help in the investigation to fix the problem. >> When I ran the "make" command the resulting html files are just written >> into the directory that "make" was run from. How do I tell "make" to >> write the output to a location of my selection? > > 'make install' should respect DESTDIR, of course, and I think (but > did not test) that the usual OBJDIR-manipulation variables would > work. > I take this to mean there are existing methods to point the html code generated by the make process to a separate path. Being brand new to changing content of the handbook I am un-familiar with the DESTIR and OBJDIR variables. Please provide an example of how to code it on the command line. >> What is really lacking is a way to view the changed output in a command >> line browser. Installing a desktop just to view the changed handbook is >> not an acceptable solution. > > But, what would the other location of your selection be that would > be differently viewable in a command-line browser than the html > files in the build tree? I generally use a browser (desktop or not) > to view the html files next to the xml sources, which is usually > "good enough" for what I need to do. > There is a very big difference between viewing the raw html or xml code in a command line editor and what one sees when shown by a browser. The ports system doesn't have a command line browser capable of displaying the handbook content. I ftp the new generated html code to my ms/xp box and view it using firefox. This method brings to light visual errors that are syntax correct but not what you really wanted. > -Ben > When I have complete knowledge of how to change the handbook I am planing to update the fdp-primer incorporating this new information. Thank you Ben for you help and guidance. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 20:55:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14C1D775B4 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 20:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22c.google.com (mail-qt0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E7016F3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 20:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f55so112055039qta.3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ly4fIMVaKl1LVFeg64MOtmXGvQGMGXfGe7qfxDxYEBw=; b=cDvcDpZot/Xcne5N8R8J+/g+bdQ7uxgtYbLgaH5cO9HKVRcJoTDDyrE4+cb9z/ncEC 96/38G1AWGJ1D+oyeM3Y3D4xw+lALbEFgjKnSJlX4RH7dKzPuEF9xiLW6MaxAsNB2S/d edN18ryicwtkdBrhNcKgI01c+DtcrPPGpzz3uG+wPsTa2Ky3Qnzei9Me6csvEbOtigkK kWDvI6ZRJTzOjDR/QjdddSZKqlvN4XcSJwM4mSergPnIgNxchOKEI7gvQFPHkVJsuMDd Ku3+Wshkoboiw0Fjpkd0WGhg5UlYgaTCJ5UACiS7I9JWM4GtYFYKu5/lpsfUlZFTv4GP rTiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ly4fIMVaKl1LVFeg64MOtmXGvQGMGXfGe7qfxDxYEBw=; b=hJUjQf5wnJh7mtoiZmRFqTFBo+L8FEwAkhrgJIu98P1jSRqtEfSnfbu2kVQ/Kz2lf2 274TnBXcRyD7rPPNXwfcaxyp9ruF3y7UaljY784BR1HCx2JtEaC+XBSzqwMMH77yEzsR IgLxP2Dc/gFKQplw5t5Ld0JzqKU/D07jUez3bvJbPYjmYyhg3snKkGUQLTEwG1pcP9Ws epUXay7j/mrDCqJ3xuvQZZxksLDl7PFaaxeFyPCqnYoFDd5mFpYjfeybsjB0D/qMapAO 0Ot7rcTWWFGOi6Ar1BfsLTzm51S/XMARWogtz1hUOCYyvELMUGHLyr/2fnHf6F6pDRGA BcHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDgB4aGzeuUBLD+LJMZPbzDNQyuIId5IF2/wSQE8+5SGAuofxTn BPo1nG9i8MxlGa7HTs0VXwpKQEmFeA== X-Received: by 10.200.41.165 with SMTP id 34mr25319544qts.243.1495486504712; Mon, 22 May 2017 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.135.167 with HTTP; Mon, 22 May 2017 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: krad Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 21:55:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS root on single SSD? To: Aaron Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 20:55:05 -0000 stay with jails as much as you can, as they will be more stable and far more lightwieght On 22 May 2017 at 07:26, Aaron wrote: > Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst > case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from > backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services > since I haven't worked with either before :) There's a couple of bhyve > front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. Really I > just need to pick one and run with it. > > --Aaron > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: > > > The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As its > a > > home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I > would > > imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out > weigh > > the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are a > > really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in > > theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as > > with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about > > availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the contents > > regularly. > > > > On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: > > > >> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm > >> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare > SSD. > >> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root > >> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, > >> COW, > >> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, > even > >> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support > for > >> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). > >> > >> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? > >> > >> --Aaron > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > >> @freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 22 22:52:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72A7D7975C for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 387E312F0; Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id e127so8690559wmg.1; Mon, 22 May 2017 15:52:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RU49dvy2JUUVhbBAMuiRPr/eKnEwD2FUB+jIctcPNsM=; b=rYjVTeQA/aHC97N/3TQLQbh7b/IaOoWJNHVi+mETW6btg+Kz2jOxx4UnYrsfyKeLtm z6Alw2JkTN/PQNFEiWR/zpQXEoIIKunwUvhi1QTUKg2m4rp4di6ABt4syVThu8ZpQz52 In8roVrrV4Zj2y4grN5v++/Xn6qouyyP2TOhvldCz9qfvFFXmUFb9n68ADpSdIq83YFw APWQTU7P/SYCqplN1024J614Am3j7U0ASw3K2Ik2+8a6KXBru7lRXbBvrekfhXL80PGQ bIztJ0WIQ3CxKxU+36XMQAt+oFCRloVapXE/CdX5zbuVNsGjDCFiSJApfSb72pEYeVVL 5Xnw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RU49dvy2JUUVhbBAMuiRPr/eKnEwD2FUB+jIctcPNsM=; b=gxaJp5BYBg6QIn9nAlzqJskvP7o6O51RHa7eNE0/RJf1xALOEcFU9zzwdLbTANlVGo ddFsoivejPJlIF1IxQzaPvh+Gz/TloxiJR8Bh9re4IZo9m4jdsD/ca+9IyNmIbPAdk9l Zd+UdC0LhDx4WYTXCqCfxOypk4p0WsM4EhB4VsgYMHTSxip4m6Lpkuo7c6ju12Iswhu3 D2oRx2lVpGNdCXshRf5a1dml5olXRsPVKn/xYelzBUXcXrLVrQbx/b3NtrQVdh2JDUyY bFWPXhEWsr0zB4p4KP3e9WE7DNm9TR3eF3Erp+JpdV+UR7dIhWwmaxe5zwiXR4NX7Vat ul8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBSYMPMKFGkObLkSk1pxbi6gC8yfbbeMBW0z7VjzMcwgNi3Jf8+ KWw3j/5LVl5Eb60TjHXJ368smMBHDcN2 X-Received: by 10.80.134.213 with SMTP id 21mr18781094edu.73.1495493556140; Mon, 22 May 2017 15:52:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ben Woods Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:25 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware Rec for wireless router running pf-sense / FreeBSD To: Adrian Chadd , Eitan Adler , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:38 -0000 On Mon, 22 May 2017 at 2:05 am, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm in the market for a new wireless router and I'd like it to run pfsense. > Requirements > - 802.11ac > - OS: pfsense > - capable of booting of an SSD > > Ideally something cheap-mid price, forward compatible, and that will last. > > Thoughts? > > > -- > Eitan Adler I bought a Netgate RCC-VE 8860 with a built in 802.11n 2T2R Atheros wifi chip a couple of years ago, and it has been working absolutely great as my home wifi router. They have some cheaper models available also. I believe Atheros is your best supported chipset option for host access points. I dont believe FreeBSD or pfsense have 802.11ac support yet. I initially ran pfsense on it without issue, but switched to stock freebsd because I prefer it. Regards, Ben > -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 23 02:54:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239CAD799CF; Tue, 23 May 2017 02:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu [18.9.25.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB4D4120F; Tue, 23 May 2017 02:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) X-AuditID: 1209190c-07dff70000001ef4-1a-5923a31ab765 Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 7F.08.07924.A13A3295; Mon, 22 May 2017 22:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id v4N2mvhF013633; Mon, 22 May 2017 22:48:57 -0400 Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id v4N2mrM1030626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 May 2017 22:48:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 21:48:53 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Ernie Luzar Cc: FreeBSD questions , "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: having trouble making changes to the handbook Message-ID: <20170523024852.GV39245@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <592041FB.9030408@gmail.com> <20170522050544.GS39245@kduck.kaduk.org> <59231887.7090100@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59231887.7090100@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrBIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6noiu9WDnSYOVLAYtTZ7pYLV5+3cRi cf30JHYHZo8Zn+azeOycdZc9gCmKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK2PzqotsBU2OFTc+pTYw7jTuYuTg kBAwkXi8KKiLkYtDSGAxk8Sqxm9sEM5GRokVy++yQzhXmSQunp3P3MXIycEioCpxb9c1VhCb TUBFoqH7MlhcBMjevOUpG4jNLFAs8aLxExOILSxgJfHqykqwGl6gbRP+fGQD2SwkUCTxuTsf IiwocXLmExaIVi2JG/9eMoGUMAtISyz/xwFicgpoStx4IQJSISqgLPH38D2WCYwCs5A0z0LS PAuheQEj8ypG2ZTcKt3cxMyc4tRk3eLkxLy81CJdQ73czBK91JTSTYygQOWU5NnBeOaN1yFG AQ5GJR5ejcdKkUKsiWXFlbmHGCU5mJREefckKEcK8SXlp1RmJBZnxBeV5qQWH2KU4GBWEuG9 sBAox5uSWFmVWpQPk5LmYFES55XQaIwQEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CycpwcChJ8F4EaRQsSk1PrUjL zClBSDNxcIIM5wEaPg9seHFBYm5xZjpE/hSjLse7pR/eMwmx5OXnpUqJ875bAFQkAFKUUZoH NweUYCSy99e8YhQHekuY13MRUBUPMDnBTXoFtIQJaIn1M3mQJSWJCCmpBkY9BynNNNWNQWw3 JS8utr5yRojtSkpS1Zd10mv1av98nJStabbrzlce57evmV7olgQGzRZp4cvycFC6FJYS7z3/ 7t4/ahOLje9OSXsY2rVTmDP26Ydn3xq4Wea0X55++rdFvBXb7hPrFu7NT2ZiCRZkC+lVb205 ytxt9eB6vEvwVwHvNaWB95RYijMSDbWYi4oTAehKlAELAwAA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 02:54:10 -0000 On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:57:43PM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 09:17:47AM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> I am following the info in this link > >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ > >> > >> I installed the textproc/docproj package. > >> > >> The above link says that svn is installed as part of that port. But it > >> really is not. Have to use the built in svnlite command. > > > > It seems that > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/textproc/docproj/Makefile?revision=420130&view=markup > > has some logic to not depend on devel/subversion when > > /usr/bin/svnlite is present in the build environment, which is > > arguably not the best choice, since the build environment need not > > match the install environment when pre-built packages are in use. > > > > > > The above reply makes no sense to me. svnlite is included in the base OS > release. So it's there in the build & install environment by default. > Are you trying to say the textproc/docproj port is in error and should > be fixed to install subversion as a dependent? The WITHOUT_SVNLITE src.conf(5) setting permits installing base without svnlite. (There is also a WITH_SVN to install svnlite as svn.) So, in WITHOUT_SVNLITE environments, at present, building textproc/docproj will pull in devel/subversion. I am suggesting that, given the number of other dependencies textproc/docproj has, adding devel/subversion unconditionally would not be that large of an incremnetal bloat, and would make things less confusing for people in a similar situation to you, as 'svn' would actually work right out of the box. > I used the OS default svnlite to checkout the whole doc tree and > manually updated the desired chapter source through creating the diff > file without any problems. > > Please expand and clarify your point. Does the above help? > > >> The shown command > >> "svnlite checkout https://svn.FreeBSD.org/doc/head ~/doc" > >> downloads far more items than wanted. This needs better example of just > >> downloading the desired language version of the handbook plus any > >> "shared directories" required for "make command" to work. How do I do this? > > > > It is intentionally undocumented, as there are multiple parts from > > the root needed to build a translation tree (in addition to the > > english sources, which are used when translations do not exist). > > No one has gone through to enumerate the list and commit to keeping > > it up to date as the build system changes. That is to say, you are > > free to attempt it, but it will require some investigation and it > > will probably be simpler overall to just accept the extra bytes as > > the cost of convenience. > > > > > > My post never voiced anything about the different translations of the > English version of the handbook. There is a separate doc on translations. > > My interpretation of your reply is that it is technicality possible to > checkout the desired handbook source based on language and them checkout > the parts of the master doc tree needed to "make" the html code version. > That to date, nobody has updated the > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ > to include this information and I am free to do so. That is almost correct, in that I expect a submission to update the fdp-primer with the hypothetical instructions for this procedure would be rejected. (N.B. it is not my position to speak authoritatively on this matter, of course -- that would probably have to go to doceng@.) > >> I ran the "igor -R filename.xml | less -RS" command on the chapter I > >> wanted to work on before making any changes. To my surprise a bunch of > >> error are shown. Since these error are all already in the handbook > >> source I see no reason why I should try to correct them. > > > > Just because errors are preexisting they should be ignored instead > > of fixed? To be clear, no one is going to insist that you fix all > > issues in a file before adding content to it, but it is also a fine > > idea to make an initial cleanup patch before starting to do further > > work. > > > > As to how this situation might arise, the existing content is often > > quite old, and igor is a comparatively new tool (and continues to > > receive updates), so it is not surprising that there is old content > > that does not fully comply to the current standards. > > > > So "igor" is am independent application whose purpose is intended for > informational use only. It does not inhibit the flow of making changes. > It may be skipped all together. If something is really codded > incorrectly the "make" process will fail with very limited feedback > about the what it doesn't like and "igor" may used to help in the > investigation to fix the problem. That's correct. igor(1) is the brainchild of wblock@, and my memory feels like it's only a few years old, but then again time always passes faster than I think... > >> When I ran the "make" command the resulting html files are just written > >> into the directory that "make" was run from. How do I tell "make" to > >> write the output to a location of my selection? > > > > 'make install' should respect DESTDIR, of course, and I think (but > > did not test) that the usual OBJDIR-manipulation variables would > > work. > > > > I take this to mean there are existing methods to point the html code > generated by the make process to a separate path. Being brand new to > changing content of the handbook I am un-familiar with the DESTIR and > OBJDIR variables. > > Please provide an example of how to code it on the command line. `make DESTDIR=/path/to/web/root install` will install the compiled html files to the indicated path, but will also leave a copy of them in the source (doc?) tree where you currently don't like them. The one that I'm not entirely sure would work would be something like `make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/doc` which I guess would mirror the directory structure of the doc tree checkout (using absolute paths!) inside /usr/obj/doc instead of leaving html files in the source tree. But again, I did not test that to check. MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is documented in build(7). > >> What is really lacking is a way to view the changed output in a command > >> line browser. Installing a desktop just to view the changed handbook is > >> not an acceptable solution. > > > > But, what would the other location of your selection be that would > > be differently viewable in a command-line browser than the html > > files in the build tree? I generally use a browser (desktop or not) > > to view the html files next to the xml sources, which is usually > > "good enough" for what I need to do. > > > > > There is a very big difference between viewing the raw html or xml code > in a command line editor and what one sees when shown by a browser. The > ports system doesn't have a command line browser capable of displaying > the handbook content. I ftp the new generated html code to my ms/xp box > and view it using firefox. This method brings to light visual errors > that are syntax correct but not what you really wanted. It sounds like I misread the complaint, initially, then. The problem is that the compiled html is not very readable in any command-line browser, but I had interpreted your statement as meaning that it was too difficult to navigate to the html files in the build tree (?) and so having the generated html files in a different directory would help. Assuming you don't have a NFS or similar mount from your windows box of a filesystem on the FreeBSD machine, I don't know that there are substantially better options than ftp-ing like that. You could 'make install' to a staging area and only have to copy a subset of things, but that's not really much better, I think. > When I have complete knowledge of how to change the handbook I am > planing to update the fdp-primer incorporating this new information. > > Thank you Ben for you help and guidance. You're welcome; I hope we can get things set up and working well for you. -Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 23 12:23:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77445D7903B for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 12:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1481B1EBF for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 12:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b84so22416916wmh.0 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0n9X+RtCjhqnQxwMWv5Mu/3xo2N1vhGs1q9jK/5v0hs=; b=k10Lode4rOqusiMfzKsd4MW1qlPhuNkCgOfT4eX8uU6CcJ6crdwl6V2m3FiolWWDec 0TMeL9lPxfefOkQ6CBgY8Un6Ly7tOlNs/kiqIdCkF0CZ90/YZgHoWr4774sd5o9dCM/N XsNGN+YnCWa9zuBE1GfdkiYBkYjdUFWojvfqKOB/2CJq6Jq8frLt973HE16gUhF9zemx uv/qC6N+vm/zKa/JTi5CoFf1j20oh+fN16SGp98qC67r9mPMxmsZdzZ4l1ipAcDPR0W5 luLSPN5alSq41mzKCDyhIhnsKiMhJAzOee+mzOXXL8hx7emjZaCycMHff/u5EMWYqT/8 4vUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0n9X+RtCjhqnQxwMWv5Mu/3xo2N1vhGs1q9jK/5v0hs=; b=eI5i5p+Oek653LzJPsta8WJqPVeISDotXldUmjaFL0bcva6TRQIWZIhmXS410AVjOx AugoUZ7hj9NTQzLnTNF72yPje3+1RSMFqDBELS0iA9BVDherWLUrJgvZRDAM/t5soTRT o6Ol3XU2VBJW2u4Ywjd5JgnakD3MoOd9Sf/8lyCzFLWEEc8waq5vFHYdRpkcD6VDp2ik kQ+BXhXG9sAgipLsazRZmLDZsF/i4NLXoxzZjvvbA8nn4MQLbm9yKEQLYcO1pU8f+c+u yEXxvzJN8Gv1h+bMNWxoHt7rHERuV7P+XXhuuqRdRmfe4mAv2PeDVmdOvoHQb876ItiS lSlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAIEqK44H8N7nWdZSnccXiB0F1x8jUBQunZRfaLNUQ5FCNny+3a gY/2SFQbNFBaLvVmipkq2EOHmj6y7w== X-Received: by 10.223.134.46 with SMTP id 43mr17881349wrv.123.1495542204237; Tue, 23 May 2017 05:23:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.136.51 with HTTP; Tue, 23 May 2017 05:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 08:23:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Acme client not updating keys automatically To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 12:23:26 -0000 Hello, I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot renew. I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired message. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 23 12:30:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07B8D79304 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 12:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [23.111.151.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76EF31195 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 12:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D427189045A for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: maurice.jlkmail.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=mailman-hosting.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= mailman-hosting.com; h=content-transfer-encoding :content-language:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:to:subject:subject; s=dkim; t=1495542621; x= 1496406622; bh=8IJZOx0h3m4Vfdvwu5qYCyzUcEhm0Yr0KrGTIJRKMBU=; b=F HiyVGexGwfD7VsHG0xve6CHmYCwEahxqxQz2FJyqSRtBl0slAN1nXz7hIhHnNc3o RTMe/Zxyc0YC48E3A27vZMnR7X6uW8zRT9VVr5eyJt5S2JCRT47ZkPRUeB+m2Y6R 91VaqfjDpBC0RsDeXb/kQFeApZB53PGk4b4dNiIQxU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maurice.jlkmail.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-9999 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id eCMDYen_GQa6 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.153] (static-70-104-198-154.nrflva.fios.verizon.net [70.104.198.154]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2BBDD1890449; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Acme client not updating keys automatically To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Mehler References: From: Jim Ohlstein Message-ID: <186862bf-4b82-9ac2-dee4-4de476840f26@mailman-hosting.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 08:30:20 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 12:30:34 -0000 Hello On 05/23/2017 08:23 AM, David Mehler wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web > servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using > py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and > have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot > renew. > > I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices > from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired > message. > > Suggestions welcome. Is it working from the command line manually? Any error message (certbot will log errors to a file - I think it's certbot.log)? Also, have you upgrade to the latest security/py-certbot? 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[74.141.88.57]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l19sm564714ioe.3.2017.05.23.10.43.07 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 May 2017 10:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <592474C7.3070900@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 13:43:35 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Kaduk CC: FreeBSD questions , "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: having trouble making changes to the handbook References: <592041FB.9030408@gmail.com> <20170522050544.GS39245@kduck.kaduk.org> <59231887.7090100@gmail.com> <20170523024852.GV39245@kduck.kaduk.org> In-Reply-To: <20170523024852.GV39245@kduck.kaduk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:43:09 -0000 snip >>>> When I ran the "make" command the resulting html files are just written >>>> into the directory that "make" was run from. How do I tell "make" to >>>> write the output to a location of my selection? >>> 'make install' should respect DESTDIR, of course, and I think (but >>> did not test) that the usual OBJDIR-manipulation variables would >>> work. >>> >> I take this to mean there are existing methods to point the html code >> generated by the make process to a separate path. Being brand new to >> changing content of the handbook I am un-familiar with the DESTIR and >> OBJDIR variables. >> >> Please provide an example of how to code it on the command line. > > `make DESTDIR=/path/to/web/root install` > > will install the compiled html files to the indicated path, but will > also leave a copy of them in the source (doc?) tree where you currently > don't like them. > > The one that I'm not entirely sure would work would be something > like > > `make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/doc` > > which I guess would mirror the directory structure of the doc tree > checkout (using absolute paths!) inside /usr/obj/doc instead of > leaving html files in the source tree. But again, I did not test > that to check. > > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is documented in build(7). > For your information. I did many trial and error runs testing make DESTDIR=/root/htm.text install make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/root/html.text make install -D /root/html.text In all cases the generated html code gets populated into the directory the make command was executed from and /root/html.text directory is left empty. But I discovered that issuing "make install" will cause the /usr/share/doc directory tree to be populated with the handbook html files. This is what I was after from the beginning. Just the html files by them selfs. I don't care where there at as long as its just the html files only. Other thing is "make clean" has to be issued between each cycle of "make install". One last thing. When I go to edit the chapter.xml content I see the text wraped in notation. Is there a special term that this "notation" is normally referred by? 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[69.132.133.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x203sm644031ywx.76.2017.05.23.11.03.11 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 May 2017 11:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ZFS root on single SSD? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: mtiger Message-ID: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 14:03:08 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 18:03:13 -0000 I have a similar situation. I have a nice ssd i am using through a usb port. I can't install this ssd internally because there are no free sata ports nor mounting slots. I would like to use ZFS on it, but I can't get it to boot using the ZFS options from the installer. I'm trying to use version 11 memstick image of the FreeBSD installer. Now if I leave the install media (on a usb flash drive) connected I can boot the drive setup as ZFS no problem. If i remove the install media and try to boot I get an error telling me it can't mount root. Power the system on and off and the problem is still the same. If I do the same installation and select UFS everything works fine every time no matter what usb devices I'm using or have connected. I've tried this on several machines but always with the same result. I've also had the same result using usb external hard drives. I've been through the handbook time and time again. I also get the same problem if I install TrueOS which is using 12-Current. As long as the install media is still connected it will boot the other drive setup for ZFS. If I disconnect the install flash drive it will not boot. Is there a manual installation process documented that would allow me to boot ZFS from a usb drive or am I missing something using the standard installer? Thanks in advance, Jim On 5/22/2017 2:26 AM, Aaron wrote: > Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst > case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from > backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services > since I haven't worked with either before There's a couple of bhyve > front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. Really I > just need to pick one and run with it. > > --Aaron > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: > >> The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As its a >> home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I would >> imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out weigh >> the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are a >> really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in >> theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as >> with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about >> availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the contents >> regularly. >> >> On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: >> >>> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm >>> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare SSD. >>> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root >>> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, >>> COW, >>> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, even >>> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support for >>> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). >>> >>> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? >>> >>> --Aaron >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>> @freebsd.org" >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" On 5/22/2017 4:55 PM, krad wrote: > stay with jails as much as you can, as they will be more stable and far > more lightwieght > > On 22 May 2017 at 07:26, Aaron wrote: > >> Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst >> case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from >> backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services >> since I haven't worked with either before :) There's a couple of bhyve >> front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. Really I >> just need to pick one and run with it. >> >> --Aaron >> >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: >> >>> The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As its >> a >>> home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I >> would >>> imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out >> weigh >>> the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are a >>> really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in >>> theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as >>> with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about >>> availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the contents >>> regularly. >>> >>> On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: >>> >>>> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm >>>> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare >> SSD. >>>> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root >>>> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, >>>> COW, >>>> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, >> even >>>> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support >> for >>>> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). >>>> >>>> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? >>>> >>>> --Aaron >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>>> @freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 24 01:50:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5503D78776 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 01:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mhemmes@ffdyn.com) Received: from granadax.ffdyn.com (granadax.ffdyn.com [96.224.249.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ffdyn.com", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A03531D88 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 01:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mhemmes@ffdyn.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by granadax.ffdyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BA41EF55AA9 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 21:44:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ffdyn.com Received: from granadax.ffdyn.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (granadax.ffdyn.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qcD2fCq10Om0 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 21:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.0.215] (unknown [172.20.0.215]) by granadax.ffdyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D81941EF55A8F for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 21:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Hemmes Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: File Object Auditing Message-Id: <112D5DEC-22F5-43C9-B496-156E07BFD395@ffdyn.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 21:44:19 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14F89) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 01:50:51 -0000 Hello, I'm new to the TrustedBSD Security Event Auditing system and was try= ing to figure out how I can configure auditing for a specific file or folder= . It seems as though audits are performed based on user. I'm trying to con= figure auditing for file read/write access for a folder shared on a server, i= ncluding all child file and folder objects.=20 So let's say I want to audit any files read, written or deleted in the folde= r /volumes/share, where would I create that entry and it's classes? Thanks for your time, =09 Mike Hemmes =E2=80=A2 Vice President =20 Mobile: (631) 983-3403 Office: (866) 493-3473 x101 =E2=80=A2 Fax: (866) 493-0764 120 West Granada Ave, Lindenhurst, NY 11757 mhemmes@ffdyn.com =E2=80=A2 ffdyn.com =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 24 15:56:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E28D7C035 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 15:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk (b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A59413E6 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 15:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from woodcruft.co.uk ([81.187.49.114] helo=lime.woodcruft.co.uk) by b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dDYec-0006BV-M5; Wed, 24 May 2017 16:56:54 +0100 Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0A55321AD3; Wed, 24 May 2017 16:56:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 16:56:48 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: David Mehler Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Acme client not updating keys automatically Message-ID: <20170524155647.GE1232@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute Mail-Followup-To: David Mehler , freebsd-questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'woodcruft.co.uk' User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 15:56:58 -0000 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 08:23:24AM -0400, David Mehler wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web > servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using > py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and > have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot > renew. > > I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices > from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired > message. > > Suggestions welcome. > > Thanks. > Dave. Hi Dave, I'll venture forth an opinion that is maybe a bit controversial. The certbot written in python 2.7, as recommended by Letsencrypt, is a bit crap IMHO. It's possibly fine if you're running a vanilla LAMP stack but start doing such things as s/Linux/FreeBSD/ and s/Apache/Nginx/ and you rapidly end up in trouble. My preference is either for acme.sh: https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh which is an acme client written in portable (POSIX) shell. Or: security/acme-client in ports which is written in C by a BSD bloke. In my experience, the problem with software written in Python is that because the barrier to entry is so low, is that even a mouth-breathing, window-licking, know-nothing moron can write Python...and sure as shit, they invariably do. To be fair, I think a lot of that type are now picking up on Javascript and it's bastard brethren. We've already seen a text editor written in it and I feel it can be only a matter of time before they set their sights on a RTOS...for suitably low values of "real time". Regards, -- Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 24 18:31:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52325D7C02C for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 18:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [IPv6:2604:4500:6:2a6:ec4:7aff:feb5:1bb2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 160661930 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 18:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1275188088B for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: maurice.jlkmail.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=mailman-hosting.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= mailman-hosting.com; h=content-transfer-encoding :content-language:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:to:subject:subject; s=dkim; t=1495650673; x= 1496514674; bh=4vMBnCkrtxhtL58LNVL5It65wVyetLCWM/i1iBolH/c=; b=j X5GKbdk0VV665v3nYXc1K3N8Z3Rnt+7jBlFWme7KAGHG6eY7u3ro7fSHCd5WiKZK vTxdQHDJoAg3L4qTKQbAsLI2hiMq22HHLiQ/FFOEVZ7CErVXBZ2mWdHz2An2UNyv ZuQ++LOVBReseBmXW0X3Z7awf8bTo4VWBla9oad3y4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maurice.jlkmail.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-9999 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id KDwr9PimFL-m for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.153] (static-70-104-198-154.nrflva.fios.verizon.net [70.104.198.154]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 537631880836; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Acme client not updating keys automatically To: David Mehler , freebsd-questions , Frank Shute References: <20170524155647.GE1232@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> From: Jim Ohlstein Message-ID: <2f52e790-3eff-3ca0-46c0-4336b8e38046@mailman-hosting.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 14:31:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170524155647.GE1232@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:31:18 -0000 Hello, On 05/24/2017 11:56 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 08:23:24AM -0400, David Mehler wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web >> servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using >> py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and >> have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot >> renew. >> >> I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices >> from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired >> message. >> >> Suggestions welcome. >> >> Thanks. >> Dave. > > > Hi Dave, > > > I'll venture forth an opinion that is maybe a bit controversial. > > The certbot written in python 2.7, as recommended by Letsencrypt, is a bit > crap IMHO. Not tryinh to start a fight (Honets!), but I'm curious as to how you arrived at that opinion. Code analysis, use for purpose, or just a general opinion of Python kiddie coders? I ask because I use it, and it suits my purpose just fine. Of course I use a few domain/multi-subdomain certs, and I simply force renew them manually the first week of every other month. Doesn't take more than a few minutes for the whole process inclusing reloading nginx, Postfix, Dovecot, etc. Only glitch was recently when one dependency got ahead of py-certbot. A suitable patch was available within a day or so. > > It's possibly fine if you're running a vanilla LAMP stack but start doing > such things as s/Linux/FreeBSD/ and s/Apache/Nginx/ and you rapidly end up > in trouble. > > My preference is either for acme.sh: > > https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh > > which is an acme client written in portable (POSIX) shell. > > Or: security/acme-client in ports which is written in C by a BSD bloke. I didn't realize that existed. Thanks! > > In my experience, the problem with software written in Python is that > because the barrier to entry is so low, is that even a mouth-breathing, > window-licking, know-nothing moron can write Python...and sure as shit, > they invariably do. Tell us how you really feel. ;) > > To be fair, I think a lot of that type are now picking up on Javascript and > it's bastard brethren. We've already seen a text editor written in it and > I feel it can be only a matter of time before they set their sights on a > RTOS...for suitably low values of "real time". > > > Regards, > -- Jim Ohlstein Professional Mailman Hosting https://mailman-hosting.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 24 18:45:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858B9D7C37A for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 18:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [23.111.151.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B10610A8 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 18:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@mailman-hosting.com) Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFEC18808A8 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: maurice.jlkmail.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=mailman-hosting.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= mailman-hosting.com; h=content-transfer-encoding :content-language:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:references:to:from :from:subject:subject; s=dkim; t=1495651500; x=1496515501; bh=s8 49o6KdgObTxsC7k4kWKmaKt0g1JFsHgq71p0JUcD8=; b=C01Ooe3zrkPO8cXOT2 JUtcekI0RjSjBsJZHaHMj3su3PLuENUptkwItCigAXUlNRfW2HraMcuTd+Ptu4Dn 29imsSnLx+2W9euRSH38hnnL8Ji7IsuBi0m1339yo9k5aRcqXKt0+jdnOQIO57a7 FLo9l50/Qw/VSHO8NmjB1K8oY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maurice.jlkmail.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-9999 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from maurice.jlkmail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (maurice.jlkmail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id nsm2K_ZhV3Yz for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.153] (static-70-104-198-154.nrflva.fios.verizon.net [70.104.198.154]) by maurice.jlkmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D7CE1880836; Wed, 24 May 2017 14:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Acme client not updating keys automatically From: Jim Ohlstein To: David Mehler , freebsd-questions , Frank Shute References: <20170524155647.GE1232@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> <2f52e790-3eff-3ca0-46c0-4336b8e38046@mailman-hosting.com> Message-ID: <37e1e540-dd11-8f86-9b17-3a4f31ed530b@mailman-hosting.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 14:44:59 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2f52e790-3eff-3ca0-46c0-4336b8e38046@mailman-hosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:45:12 -0000 Hello, On 05/24/2017 02:31 PM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Hello, > > On 05/24/2017 11:56 AM, Frank Shute wrote: >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 08:23:24AM -0400, David Mehler wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web >>> servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using >>> py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and >>> have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot >>> renew. >>> >>> I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices >>> from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired >>> message. >>> >>> Suggestions welcome. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Dave. >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> I'll venture forth an opinion that is maybe a bit controversial. >> >> The certbot written in python 2.7, as recommended by Letsencrypt, is a >> bit >> crap IMHO. > > Not tryinh to start a fight (Honets!), but I'm curious as to how you > arrived at that opinion. Code analysis, use for purpose, or just a > general opinion of Python kiddie coders? > > I ask because I use it, and it suits my purpose just fine. Of course I > use a few domain/multi-subdomain certs, and I simply force renew them > manually the first week of every other month. Doesn't take more than a > few minutes for the whole process inclusing reloading nginx, Postfix, > Dovecot, etc. Only glitch was recently when one dependency got ahead of > py-certbot. A suitable patch was available within a day or so. > >> >> It's possibly fine if you're running a vanilla LAMP stack but start doing >> such things as s/Linux/FreeBSD/ and s/Apache/Nginx/ and you rapidly >> end up >> in trouble. >> >> My preference is either for acme.sh: >> >> https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh >> >> which is an acme client written in portable (POSIX) shell. >> >> Or: security/acme-client in ports which is written in C by a BSD bloke. > > I didn't realize that existed. Thanks! Add: it has a build dependency on libressl, which apparently makes it a non-starter for portmaster and portupgrade users who rely on the openssl port. It works fine with poudriere, and probably also with synth. > >> >> In my experience, the problem with software written in Python is that >> because the barrier to entry is so low, is that even a mouth-breathing, >> window-licking, know-nothing moron can write Python...and sure as shit, >> they invariably do. > > Tell us how you really feel. ;) > >> >> To be fair, I think a lot of that type are now picking up on >> Javascript and >> it's bastard brethren. We've already seen a text editor written in it and >> I feel it can be only a matter of time before they set their sights on a >> RTOS...for suitably low values of "real time". >> >> >> Regards, >> > -- Jim Ohlstein Professional Mailman Hosting https://mailman-hosting.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 25 02:13:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF771D80C41 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 02:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay7428@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE921162 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 02:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay7428@bellsouth.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; 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Thu, 25 May 2017 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F15F18CF for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [78.35.165.64] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1dDpbN-0002Ir-Ll; Thu, 25 May 2017 12:02:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 12:00:49 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: mtiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS root on single SSD? Message-ID: <20170525120049.3633da28@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> References: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/waNeCLTCJ5UsjuCW5LIs8Y5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:04:59 -0000 --Sig_/waNeCLTCJ5UsjuCW5LIs8Y5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mtiger wrote: > I have a similar situation. I have a nice ssd i am using through a usb=20 > port. I can't install this ssd internally because there are no free sata= =20 > ports nor mounting slots. I would like to use ZFS on it, but I can't get= =20 > it to boot using the ZFS options from the installer. I'm trying to use=20 > version 11 memstick image of the FreeBSD installer. >=20 > Now if I leave the install media (on a usb flash drive) connected I can=20 > boot the drive setup as ZFS no problem. If i remove the install media=20 > and try to boot I get an error telling me it can't mount root. Power the= =20 > system on and off and the problem is still the same. >=20 > If I do the same installation and select UFS everything works fine every= =20 > time no matter what usb devices I'm using or have connected. >=20 > I've tried this on several machines but always with the same result.=20 > I've also had the same result using usb external hard drives. >=20 > I've been through the handbook time and time again. I also get the same=20 > problem if I install TrueOS which is using 12-Current. As long as the=20 > install media is still connected it will boot the other drive setup for=20 > ZFS. If I disconnect the install flash drive it will not boot. The behaviour you describe could be the result of this bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D208882 Fabian --Sig_/waNeCLTCJ5UsjuCW5LIs8Y5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTKUNd6H/m3+ByGULIFiohV/3dUnQUCWSarUgAKCRAFiohV/3dU ncFgAKC+jPqT2Mcn9Y8oPvHZEoOgBH6E+QCgiK+/Yr1YSL6wMEfHdGgkeY3GA+M= =RucA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/waNeCLTCJ5UsjuCW5LIs8Y5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 25 16:49:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E105D825A2 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 16:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B336E19DD for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 16:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v4PGX7X3022548; Fri, 26 May 2017 02:33:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 02:33:06 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Frank Shute cc: David Mehler , Jim Ohlstein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acme client not updating keys automatically In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170526010738.Q54860@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 16:49:56 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 677, Issue 4 Message: 1 On Wed, 24 May 2017 16:56:48 +0100 Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 08:23:24AM -0400, David Mehler wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've got a Freebsd 10.3 system running several ssl-enabled web > > servers. I've got letsencrypt keys for all of them. I'm using > > py27-certbot (am not stuck on it so if there's an alternative), and > > have a cron job set to check keys and update them by doing a certbot > > renew. > > > > I thought something was wrong when I kept getting key expirey notices > > from letsencrypt, then I checked a site and got a key has expired > > message. > > > > Suggestions welcome. > Hi Dave, > > I'll venture forth an opinion that is maybe a bit controversial. > > The certbot written in python 2.7, as recommended by Letsencrypt, is a bit > crap IMHO. > > It's possibly fine if you're running a vanilla LAMP stack but start doing > such things as s/Linux/FreeBSD/ and s/Apache/Nginx/ and you rapidly end up > in trouble. > > My preference is either for acme.sh: > > https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh > > which is an acme client written in portable (POSIX) shell. G'day Frank, I had a look, just for interest really. Very impressive. Clean, clear code and lots of useful shell programming techniques of all sorts, on a quick browse. Thorough built-in help on top of quality online docs. And the first link in the 'Who are using acme.sh' section, FreeBSD.org, points to Peter Wemm's excellent description of how it's used within the FreeBSD cluster, among other interesting cluster theory and practice. https://blog.crashed.org/letsencrypt-in-freebsd-org/ Hard to beat that for a recommendation. As for python: I take your point, though it's not hard to write crappy code in any language - but I think in Pascal, so what would I know! :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 25 18:49:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12922D82369 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 18:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from friedrich.locke@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B77C71F04 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 18:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from friedrich.locke@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id b68so107481583ywe.3 for ; Thu, 25 May 2017 11:49:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oFfs9HO6ICeW8wKlG7UKGUEvFlxp5v5kL0QbpfSKBdE=; b=BeEbIETYpz/FMVkp5Qo0+8LIQKyfTsLcqDsD0Z/1L1+P9EyvI93MMwskPYaPjhJBIq 63NNIKwLM0FnAQRXqHK1nH54nr4nWs3RhiYyqOTsNT2JQKa6K+6xG5C27vR3vmT72Mmr pmD4J6CYN7tavqYwvF2W6ldVO3RSZhN/GVJ7Dyfqo7rLFqB3lgW2bGWCaAilwWgacRgD qdyeunJ8a2M0V7xHpO7NIo3hAJ1m8S0l6chG+KSDDBi1vYSdgZsCOSE+OjWFLe/ha+5D gYdggQJ9j6kITKohTDrW+p8sVibSNv6jN+FAMB88thevQDlTFNHmNtOIfef59i037omw Meyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=oFfs9HO6ICeW8wKlG7UKGUEvFlxp5v5kL0QbpfSKBdE=; b=CmwJglFyFwwmiC70N32b9JYxtmyG7Zsk/QhxcLAU9ApXOOTIgYizagmN0zjKJ1tJzQ bcYlbJenlW+YtHpELTZG8/OfqA52yL/2lnDWW5TpwDCNLxNy07OUOQt9lvSNOGXVduFT xdfd5Kn9IIMZIoaInrR/dRKzjQ9t2k1Sv5lh1p5qEGokm/SNQlTyZY0QZDQIkKG2e8Td m9Y+eloL2YmXKMtQR0mLERUjTlxEEGK2NEsWD1ZkescmTMVeFezqEm3b/j+q9/IgGd2A vrHJvD9T+5FeqvkAK8vKAgBtMbRN4W1GVOzVPTndcyjkfD2vca048Q86PymhNhmnw6+x EAgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDJg5o2paAnrOiHDqlZ/WJFAX39MREs3YnopVIRjYlb7U/NdUk4 T2BYjbqSnwSK2wuGOQPDPz8fXIjkJQ== X-Received: by 10.129.169.69 with SMTP id g66mr32981204ywh.188.1495738181947; Thu, 25 May 2017 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.216 with HTTP; Thu, 25 May 2017 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7eee9d20-3ead-1337-81aa-ee94bde37725@citrin.ru> References: <20161021212721.GA64898@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <7eee9d20-3ead-1337-81aa-ee94bde37725@citrin.ru> From: Friedrich Locke Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 15:49:41 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Maximum PArtition To: Anton Yuzhaninov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 18:49:43 -0000 What is the maximum if i use GPT with UFS and not zfs ? Thanks. On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On 10/21/16 17:27, The Doctor wrote: > >> What is the Maximum Partition for FreeBSd/amd64 ? >> > > Depends on partition scheme used: for MBR it is 2 Tb, for GPT limit is > huge - 8 ZB. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 26 05:06:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB1ED7B605 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 05:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0102015c4326142f-c771bcd3-042a-424a-9852-c280d4a9b83c-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com) Received: from a4-2.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com (a4-2.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com [54.240.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62D941CC4 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 05:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0102015c4326142f-c771bcd3-042a-424a-9852-c280d4a9b83c-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=fzadcz6kfww5m5r7pycd7qo7bkii2yah; d=privosafe.com; t=1495775188; h=List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:From:Subject:To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To:Date:Message-ID; bh=jAe+X4Hi/sTmJhrULVEqUG9UgBqneGj6kqYO7Io+x0I=; b=RVkam6cVLlDgTxNQ9rbDes7H+ggTX64Pz3guen3C/kOO891s4gj0C6jVQ9KKof2Y wEwHhL40bGsBDzp/RqQ6+sD+oi0pYeBz3Vg5KZ4eFbvksooSGDSP5nLjnRFc/xJP8YZ mQYCsVx/Hdspjxnf6zzOr/GyUGbPQD0xyo4NeiNw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=shh3fegwg5fppqsuzphvschd53n6ihuv; d=amazonses.com; t=1495775188; h=List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:From:Subject:To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To:Date:Message-ID:Feedback-ID; bh=jAe+X4Hi/sTmJhrULVEqUG9UgBqneGj6kqYO7Io+x0I=; b=dJPfCrBpYJFWRg3dHbiZ1UT0aSp4mb3dmB9siLgpBigiUnQgOMOUxuQJEd0JhpJ2 eX6/gg3u87ZPcFRaCSqLhdORv+iXgFLD3Eb4i6fQtBSMB3BEBfG6QaPMbjaZVU82fTj qXTccDDC59iBeMCllYtY9/V/MEp8Xt6sfFXLtOIc= From: "Privosafe" Subject: How Secure is your Wi-Fi ? 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In this case, the size limitation of UFS would apply. The UFS2 filesystem was introduced in 2003 as a replacement to the original UFS and provides 64 bit counters and offsets. This allows for files and filesystems to grow to 2^73 bytes (2^64 * 512) in size and hopefully be sufficient for quite a long time. UFS2 largely solved the storage size limits imposed by the filesystem. Unfortunately, many tools and storage mechanisms still use or assume 32 bit values, often keeping FreeBSD limited to 2TB. Source: http://www.pl.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html Find more inspiration here: https://mebsd.com/configure-freebsd-servers/big-partitions-in-freebsd-bigger-than-2tb.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 26 12:14:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23913D83F70 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3D441B0E for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 12:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id c13so6461882qtc.1 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 05:14:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QXO5+3NPK8hv6VCGYK21QLhcD5jGy2O+klCwmxBa5Ak=; b=VCZA7epMEH5DdveTsqEE1O986nKEhmFmOoA2qIq7EfpsOCeDYclj9OiQaVp9OhvV7V 1WJ8WJYoOShPjpIKN9H76RGIc6nWwRyRXoBZ6mN3wHAYZOc50++CS9sJq7WMdKC5tIDb da9etRPmuCAhMjbc4Uf//EsVKjbB8ECIQpWr+VP6auDgcr7C/+LE9yt9/Twuq39LnGB0 uIaTWsYmsMbDxK69MmtNeuYw+NG9AvX0lJ1ZMO8DitDj+w8znrVgDxjRvLq9w9LRYlTj EPY7jFgVVS8TIb28qp/sVkahAjZ7SL7mIfnJYKQUdUgbuV0y9DFXe6g/MZgGGJEwyOOY qenA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QXO5+3NPK8hv6VCGYK21QLhcD5jGy2O+klCwmxBa5Ak=; b=UTmy5fVAGFM8sItLgNIN5WUhWq16xTsBo83+J2yQQUWZWLdXCOT9Z4IrMnKypxqLLj zfnxDXjwDJVERdiXDaHzVCdFu5TlSfCH/4E+360owwElfdprz3MUYm+C0KV0llhQKTYm Kyaf/AX1irimrqHjYHM/CuIRZqlVZTbNjV8YXX0BGfAVldfKCBSlBzAb3AFSAwUhd4zC HllrUqEzpRJ6s4oXxECNA1mJKthx07AQhP/6MZqoNLy27ns7lYFIVshTvyTF6aKPrOda kb6CNDwzaGvt1vRiNrPd7qKpmnRqxKUJ8zlB62wKtkrp2bDaZgAcE72bmuboS+hPy78r e0LA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBzU0OUhhDQ4eedTmVqod+9xcXZVGJDq9rzCJCFPSIrfU1XATbi A6Y4hvrQ/T3F5KCTFxMAFn35EkJnA1y6 X-Received: by 10.200.47.201 with SMTP id m9mr2010593qta.187.1495800865899; Fri, 26 May 2017 05:14:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.135.167 with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2017 05:05:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> References: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> From: krad Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 13:05:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS root on single SSD? To: mtiger Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 12:14:27 -0000 I ran out of ports like you, but decided to go for a sas card instead of usb. You can get them fairly cheap on ebay, just make sure you get a 6gbit HBA one, not a raid variant. Then put the data drives on it and put the boot drive on the MB sata. This is a 3Gbit one and is cheap, and may be good enough for you needs. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25R8071-IBM-LSI-HBA-SAS-Raid-Controller-PCIe-PCI-Express-/292075317522?hash=item44010ba912:g:PLMAAOSw2gxYrA8-&autorefresh=true the faster version. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LSI-SAS9212-4i4e-SAS-HBA-CARD-SATA-SAS-1-EXT-4-INT-6Gbs-68Y7354-46C8935-H3-25326-/292123987576?hash=item4403f24e78:g:eg4AAOSw241YgEyy On 23 May 2017 at 19:03, mtiger wrote: > > I have a similar situation. I have a nice ssd i am using through a usb > port. I can't install this ssd internally because there are no free sata > ports nor mounting slots. I would like to use ZFS on it, but I can't get it > to boot using the ZFS options from the installer. I'm trying to use > version 11 memstick image of the FreeBSD installer. > > Now if I leave the install media (on a usb flash drive) connected I can > boot the drive setup as ZFS no problem. If i remove the install media and > try to boot I get an error telling me it can't mount root. Power the system > on and off and the problem is still the same. > > If I do the same installation and select UFS everything works fine every > time no matter what usb devices I'm using or have connected. > > I've tried this on several machines but always with the same result. I've > also had the same result using usb external hard drives. > > I've been through the handbook time and time again. I also get the same > problem if I install TrueOS which is using 12-Current. As long as the > install media is still connected it will boot the other drive setup for > ZFS. If I disconnect the install flash drive it will not boot. > > Is there a manual installation process documented that would allow me to > boot ZFS from a usb drive or am I missing something using the standard > installer? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jim > > > On 5/22/2017 2:26 AM, Aaron wrote: > > Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst > > case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from > > backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services > > since I haven't worked with either before There's a couple of bhyve > > > front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. > Really I > > just need to pick one and run with it. > > > > --Aaron > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: > > > >> The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As > its a > >> home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I > would > >> imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out > weigh > >> the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are > a > >> really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in > >> theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as > >> with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about > >> availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the > contents > >> regularly. > >> > >> On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: > >> > >>> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm > >>> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare > SSD. > >>> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root > >>> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, > >>> COW, > >>> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, > even > >>> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support > for > >>> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). > >>> > >>> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? > >>> > >>> --Aaron > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > >>> @freebsd.org" > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > > > > On 5/22/2017 4:55 PM, krad wrote: > >> stay with jails as much as you can, as they will be more stable and far >> more lightwieght >> >> On 22 May 2017 at 07:26, Aaron wrote: >> >> Yea, pretty much this. Don't need the same level of availability. Worst >>> case, I'm a bit annoyed and rebuild the OS and restore the configs from >>> backup. Now I just need to figure out jails and bhyve for the services >>> since I haven't worked with either before :) There's a couple of bhyve >>> front ends I've been looking at, sorta on the fence for which one. >>> Really I >>> just need to pick one and run with it. >>> >>> --Aaron >>> >>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:05 AM, krad wrote: >>> >>> The big question is what availability do you need on this server? As its >>>> >>> a >>> >>>> home system I guess not as much as say an enterprise one. Therefore I >>>> >>> would >>> >>>> imagine all the benefits of manageability that come with zfs will out >>>> >>> weigh >>> >>>> the downside, even if running on a single volume. Boot environments are >>>> a >>>> really big thing to safe guard yourself during upgrade time. Although in >>>> theory you could do something with ufs its never going to be as good as >>>> with zfs. Also remember mirroring isnt backup, mirroring is about >>>> availability. Therefore live with a single drive, but backup the >>>> contents >>>> regularly. >>>> >>>> On 16 May 2017 at 06:45, Aaron wrote: >>>> >>>> So, I've been running ZFS root mirror across 2 spinning disks, and I'm >>>>> upgrading my home server/nas and planning on running root on a spare >>>>> >>>> SSD. >>> >>>> However, I'm unsure if it'd be better to run UFS as a single drive root >>>>> instead of ZFS, although I do love all of the ZFS features (snapshots, >>>>> COW, >>>>> scrubbing, etc) and would still like to keep that for my root drive, >>>>> >>>> even >>> >>>> if I'm not mirroring at all. I do notice that FreeBSD has TRIM support >>>>> >>>> for >>> >>>> ZFS (see http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Features#TRIM_Support). >>>>> >>>>> So is there a good reason NOT to run ZFS root on a single drive SSD? >>>>> >>>>> --Aaron >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>>>> @freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >> @freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 26 22:57:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420B5D8352F for ; 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Thank you, Shirley Yang From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 27 04:01:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ECAD840E0 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 04:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lie@eecg.toronto.edu) Received: from m2.ece.utoronto.ca (mail.ece.utoronto.ca [128.100.10.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C071F3C for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 04:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lie@eecg.toronto.edu) Received: from mail.ece.utoronto.ca (mail.ece.utoronto.ca [128.100.10.107]) by m2.ece.utoronto.ca (8.15.1/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v4R3kBbO003925; Fri, 26 May 2017 23:46:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eecg.toronto.edu; s=mail; t=1495856771; bh=8JSRW1Tr/yBzFOvUngatVN4Rx7M7fyKQyQmJUT7Hbqk=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=1fINr59N3K7jBQUt8TX0dky4hsBsgZDNqZpMz/MPr51cRJh2Qqg8Wh1PjUEtuy2dI AoY5CnqV8/nnJtt8PczWPVzBhociECkJvw9WwtuKpU7bQnVlxGXYsR2fK2SdkFej3o wz5NOjjq7eiDhhn5DpEHjf1iz2r8GC1foDCHC3jo= Received: from Heavenly (c-73-15-64-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.15.64.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ece.utoronto.ca (8.15.1/8.14.5) with ESMTPSA id v4R3k9hs003921 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 26 May 2017 23:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Lie" To: "'Dylan Williams'" , "'Mingyue Yang'" Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Help For Getting Bug Reports in Issue Tracker Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 20:46:06 -0700 Message-ID: <083a01d2d69b$c66a0ec0$533e2c40$@eecg.toronto.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQHS1nM8KkExPKG6c0+yTAeCOuQ+u6IHnxsA///qFtA= Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 04:01:18 -0000 Hi Dylan: Privacy and personal data issues were not something we anticipated. I understand the need for caution around these. Can you elaborate on what the issues are? I had thought that since the bug data bases are publicly searchable anyways, there was no more information being revealed by sharing. Is there information in the dumps that isn't available in the web interface? Or is it more the concern of having all of the information shared at once? We are public university in Canada and as such adhere to norms governing research involving human subjects and personal information. If we sought Ethics Review Board review for this research, would this allay concerns? Thanks, David Lie -- Professor Canada Research Chair in Secure and Reliable Computer Systems Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering University of Toronto From: Dylan Williams [mailto:freebsd@host852.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:59 PM To: Mingyue Yang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; David Lie Subject: Re: Help For Getting Bug Reports in Issue Tracker I see potential data privacy/personal data issues associated with this request. Suggest to proceed with caution. On 27 May 2017, at 6:57 AM, Mingyue Yang > wrote: Hello FreeBSD Team, I am a student from University of Toronto doing research. My research topic is to automatically detect security vulnerabilities using machine learning techniques. As part of my research, I need to obtain bug samples and fixes related to security vulnerabilities. I am currently looking into bug reports in the issue tracker of your project: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/. However, crawling the bug tracking repository may not be the best thing to do, as it may be harmful to the website. Thus I am wondering if it is possible to obtain the entire bug tracking database including summary, comments and other status fields for all bug reports? Help is really appreciated! Thank you, Shirley Yang _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 27 04:28:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FB9D84C79 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 04:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD4431F55 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 04:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id e127so8387132wmg.1 for ; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:28:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BU28AMsfX3I546/WXts3J4o+rRGat1/ztDS7M5gKrEQ=; b=Pw5OO0ZoE0mRVmfKkBA0b9xNOWVnn5L39UNSh1ODRfaj8noo5P00htmbUH4lJkGWRY k4Os3EnesL7PY+/nJ5CRV1KEdpNq9X+inpjIcrcgFFTq7e2z9P3NsPekidjYw5Xi0M15 4yhF/jGvZQ1ihsU/jNrhG+7J0MF7iv9va54Yc4pa8fo4gBzUgaNh4IS3QUoipYgCKTY4 WXJkZTgBrQT3r0JmS//+8junoQE9qXE6/Grc/1Al/bUcPYK+RdJlrUSRADdMQ7MkXElA 5+lqtR/QpvhcZPKprR4lu3WeBsEIvLBGOLv8IuC0UvskOMBnmvyvSYT0FVNjpZKW4Pyj CbYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BU28AMsfX3I546/WXts3J4o+rRGat1/ztDS7M5gKrEQ=; b=h+6c/yr4Fpt83HPHiFQg+k7zRsQ6oq+dqhv7FOAW3gVgXIN0+iTHPAA7Fcj2x7sfd7 XtOdZPsmCoSzx5WhXq+2M5I6qO9YL4Ki9QNCK0JHX1Mz2vr85f/j0jLERnaQbc7Xr6Lg voqjZ+nka3llRGsYWA45ikbzfqfB+NAy3ivCspoIZMg957+JxrlyLdfdJ+pn0yEYWdMf BnHD9+3OIUDT4nt/wNFF2dULKjj95XVY/0qbBNKu7a6vfinov/pVZXFbJZKlEgl/UlpE USy+q3Oe6HNfsqiEMrwrIkYpKa9LxBmR+cgHgQAPv6yeLeRd+i45zNAAQ8MWmPiyQ9Df m0Nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBQShyd+bxpwPgFbyC33Ao8KERYw2xY5O+sWgRSZ0lnbywdZDlo qQHk881BEeyEGIEIFzWSeaGpibFpSxuM X-Received: by 10.80.176.198 with SMTP id j64mr4614459edd.168.1495859322271; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:28:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.175.65 with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:28:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 23:28:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help For Getting Bug Reports in Issue Tracker To: Mingyue Yang Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" , David Lie Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 04:28:44 -0000 On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Mingyue Yang < myshirley.yang@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > Hello FreeBSD Team, > > > I am a student from University of Toronto doing research. My research > topic is to automatically detect security vulnerabilities using machine > learning techniques. As part of my research, I need to obtain bug samples > and fixes related to security vulnerabilities. > > > I am currently looking into bug reports in the issue tracker of your > project: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/. However, crawling the bug > tracking repository may not be the best thing to do, as it may be harmful > to the website. Thus I am wondering if it is possible to obtain the entire > bug tracking database including summary, comments and other status fields > for all bug reports? > > > > Help is really appreciated! > > > Thank you, > > Shirley Yang > You might be better served by inquiring to freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 27 13:00:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD98AD85B39 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 13:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtiger090@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x242.google.com (mail-yb0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 817941304 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 13:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtiger090@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x242.google.com with SMTP id r66so276271yba.3 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 06:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=xQ/petX6db+qC4JYWoTL94VcH/dd1TSuv3ltf207nXo=; b=HuWo9FpAepo7MxyYaISogdF12YR2JMcKSsCyA/27YXntf/UOT9phtSCSA6ETTwvWtc 25qS9mVvBqs6ZU8Y8ehT3gs0WPuPPFSu/WG7K0O0ci+o94NlIl+gR8dkwVHkGvTKa8HL 2UWhgpqpUlh0F8zGgrIiVPz4jEzv/VwEUaop4Mxu70BcEG7sqO04EQdP+IMaMpJKgyZ6 q4yUV+qxZmyU6t0RlIZV8nLBsLFgq3uaIIZojPOIIE0zt57Gi0BwDJ0TsgoGvsY728xA XR6R47bnertHYSJUnvaaLNJu8KOmXq7dVht8n/0mAZiOeR96mYeY3VzuMtkBselS8Cpj 4WfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=xQ/petX6db+qC4JYWoTL94VcH/dd1TSuv3ltf207nXo=; b=fvKK+05lFLJiPhTQm4740KPzXdCj5Ke8etJsEWKv2pYd4ipRsGBQfWI+lhetOaq730 1ROgEo2jYVAIxG8rRIP9CsqC2voQ946yyj9gtGLd25lBNAjDH1cUjDnZRfenvO8ClvBZ V8SfFx+gsM2MizO14fkFmZYe24hgcK30yVIlpqBpi0c0nQtHLKPZEErVQ2nkAefBTG4M g9angyI8f7ieNsWSSUuNxq2b84KY5Ds1UTPqHZhKbUdYyDVKqjcpg03jR2nq20ICd5Au gdmRIBdAq/6lf58APGcWpRWWaVBf2X9S9kY0yJtY9K+w9lAEZ2Lt6uyn1l1MEC2oTg/A GcBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCSBhRX4ZvNbAioAdMJeMx4+ly3CuzELm6ASHDpkLHXda2dlgZD KslCdTiVy789TImMYnA= X-Received: by 10.37.108.212 with SMTP id h203mr40598270ybc.77.1495890008346; Sat, 27 May 2017 06:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.249] (cpe-69-132-133-220.carolina.res.rr.com. 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To: Fabian Keil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9f2aef3b-5c7f-858a-2769-48cb150825a0@gmail.com> <20170525120049.3633da28@fabiankeil.de> From: mtiger Message-ID: <34364737-98ee-94e1-b6c2-887dd8a01a33@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 09:00:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170525120049.3633da28@fabiankeil.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:00:09 -0000 Thank You Fabian, I'm going to try pre-release 11.1 later today, I'm hoping this will be fixed. It seems like would be a common problem with ZFS and usb disks being installation options for so long now. Is this not a very common problem? On 5/25/2017 6:00 AM, Fabian Keil wrote: > mtiger wrote: > >> I have a similar situation. I have a nice ssd i am using through a usb >> port. I can't install this ssd internally because there are no free sata >> ports nor mounting slots. I would like to use ZFS on it, but I can't get >> it to boot using the ZFS options from the installer. I'm trying to use >> version 11 memstick image of the FreeBSD installer. >> >> Now if I leave the install media (on a usb flash drive) connected I can >> boot the drive setup as ZFS no problem. If i remove the install media >> and try to boot I get an error telling me it can't mount root. Power the >> system on and off and the problem is still the same. >> >> If I do the same installation and select UFS everything works fine every >> time no matter what usb devices I'm using or have connected. >> >> I've tried this on several machines but always with the same result. >> I've also had the same result using usb external hard drives. >> >> I've been through the handbook time and time again. I also get the same >> problem if I install TrueOS which is using 12-Current. As long as the >> install media is still connected it will boot the other drive setup for >> ZFS. If I disconnect the install flash drive it will not boot. > The behaviour you describe could be the result of this bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=208882 > > Fabian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 27 15:46:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968F1D8597F for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 15:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D8F1FA2 for ; Sat, 27 May 2017 15:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 61514D8597E; Sat, 27 May 2017 15:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F2AD8597D for ; 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