From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sun Mar 18 02:29:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBCBF57E48 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FC8790C3 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 538A1F57E46; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F8FF57E45; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: from corp.infotel.ru (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BED790C2; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: from corp (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) by corp.infotel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE970EC05; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:37 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at corp.infotel.ru Received: from corp.infotel.ru ([195.170.219.3]) by corp (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dAs_Du_PJByt; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:24 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru (unknown [195.170.219.74]) by corp.infotel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175D6EBFD; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:24 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F643AC8C5; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:19 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cicgroup.ru Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (mail.cicgroup.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id fCxwNygFXhTD; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:11 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B0AAF3AC806; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:11 +0300 (MSK) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:29:11 +0300 From: Vladimir Kondratyev To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Precision 7520 laptop: built-in mouse "fail"; USB mouse OK In-Reply-To: <20180317232059.GQ1094@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20180317163348.GO1094@albert.catwhisker.org> <20180317232059.GQ1094@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: vladimir@kondratyev.su User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:29:42 -0000 On 2018-03-18 02:20, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 02:02:39AM +0300, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: >> It's probably that your laptop has an ALPS touchpad: >> https://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/dell-inc-precision-7520-precision-sku07b0/desktop/F70B463F27B0466AA190E50F67469F64 > > Hmm... interesting page -- but I see some entries that are > definitely different from the machine I have, including: > > * NVIDIA graphics in my machine is a "Quadro M1200" (vs. "Quadro > M2200") > * Wireless NIC is a Qualcomm Atheros part (vs. Intel(R) Dual Band > Wireless-AC 8265") Try to boot any modern Linux live cd and than grep boot log for "PS/2" string. It should give a clue to your trackpad model name. >> Unfortunately it is not supported by FreeBSD. >> >> I think the best you can do is to remove outdated "ALPS GlidePoint" >> from >> psm's driver probe list and play around hint.psm.0.flags in >> /boot/device.hints > > I'm confused: why would you refer to "ALPS GlidePoint" as "outdated"? Something that called "ALPS GlidePoint" support in current FreeBSD really does a button remap for 20 years old particular model rather then absolute mode activation and packet parsing as it should do. Moreover, there is a report that it just hurts: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=218347 -- WBR Vladimir Kondratyev From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mon Mar 19 00:41:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE6F62536 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB736FCC1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 05FB9F62530; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C61F6252F for ; 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Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:41:12 -0400 From: Shawn Webb To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Precision 7520 laptop: built-in mouse "fail"; USB mouse OK Message-ID: <20180319004112.2slelw5ccw34xubf@mutt-hbsd> References: <20180317163348.GO1094@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q6dufw3ek6m4wtve" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180317163348.GO1094@albert.catwhisker.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6A84658F52456EEE User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171215 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:41:29 -0000 --q6dufw3ek6m4wtve Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 09:33:48AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > As I've migrated from one laptop to another (since around 2000), I don't > recall encountering issues with the built-in mouse before, so this > caught me a bit off guard. :-} >=20 > My last several laptops have all been Dell machines; the one I've > been using regularly for the last 3 years in a Precision M4800; > information on it may be found at > , > and copies of full verbose dmesg.boot files (running stable/11 & > head, built this morning) may be found via > . >=20 > Yesterday, I took delivery of a Dell Precision 7520, the superficial > appearance of which is quite like that of the M4800: Each has both > trackpoint ("eraser-head") pointer and a trackpad; for each machine, > the trackpad has a set of 3 buttons across the top and a set of 3 > across the bottom. (And in each, the set of "mouse components" is > offset to the left by about half the width of the numeric keypad that I > don't use and wish wasn't there. :-/ ) >=20 > However, while the mouse "just works" on the M4800, it does absolutely > nothing in FreeBSD (except create a stationary cursor). (It works > fine going into the BIOS setup and making adjustments to various > things, so this isn't a hardware issue, per se.) >=20 > I built stable/11 @r331093 (amd64) on each of them and saved a verbose > dmesg.boot on each; I have copied them to > . >=20 > I extracted the part (of the dmesgboot files) that involves the > keyboard and mouse for comparison here: How different is the 7520 from the 7510? I'm running HardenedBSD 12-CURRENT on the 7510 without issues. Both the trackpad and the thing below and between the G and H keys (I totally forgot what it's called) work fine for me. Multitouch for vertical scrolling on the trackpad works fine, too. I haven't tried 11-STABLE on this laptop. Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE --q6dufw3ek6m4wtve Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEKrq2ve9q9Ia+iT2eaoRlj1JFbu4FAlqvByMACgkQaoRlj1JF bu7AwA//YitfeWLkwq/CnrLt30qbat9BX0CYO3hNnDYacyhReN4zN7ftLl9Zl4Ri DEDrxgPCqewhEfAGNhBVT7he5gL5+GVpqOQRGWDzXLVMOWj/faOOWPUIO/2ltuRb UhwFZe8Wwi5l3KP5Qg66NnA1Z0v2AGWl1l2IDoh1ptNCZz+ztaATBeklGPlITrRK brFo+l/rbDcVyNHWH7BRPWO7Pl7TdaRsc+Uya5ubwYYL4O4wMEKpMZePxaD8Upez kE/C9BvIyz2INTJ9sIql5RCzXuDWREK2tRc9BCUgCOtPWjTJa4AnoJknkmQAEQuY ZiZYMPxDvMsCrx8kIX9FBQ/+7jSWjJK9Jl6T8iHZWlJ9vq8w4q1khcRoW34SOup0 memFYYwuEzQW/Ugj9ykf11VrDOfPco/923QxkEdv0VS5aoSKBtPFfUW9S50rHrSl Vo5A/01S5jaDCcLzKnybMgpGNYP99vHJ17LF4V5SqquHxeP7InzBnh4K44xSnUwM 5kR78mc7OCmZKePQeeAJQhNYQ1LHhZpuH65pe1B0sRElBu/7YptH29OJ8uwqXQMJ 0lcYHL7OtL40pgHc6dPRCGeN6ARxvNNjmJtVHAHRgnmP62cQTzDqi8px5C/1wnCA 4yn2FRJeshoqcLH131TbZPdti56CiTsYs6WBywFQ3yuzTQT4isc= =NpZs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q6dufw3ek6m4wtve-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mon Mar 19 00:53:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9242CF6314A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265A77039E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DE7A7F63148; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA934F63147 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [198.144.209.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BED17039D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w2J0rHRC005534; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:17 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w2J0rGVN005533; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:53:16 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Shawn Webb Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Precision 7520 laptop: built-in mouse "fail"; USB mouse OK Message-ID: <20180319005316.GD1233@albert.catwhisker.org> Reply-To: mobile@freebsd.org References: <20180317163348.GO1094@albert.catwhisker.org> <20180319004112.2slelw5ccw34xubf@mutt-hbsd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EY/WZ/HvNxOox07X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180319004112.2slelw5ccw34xubf@mutt-hbsd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:53:20 -0000 --EY/WZ/HvNxOox07X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 08:41:12PM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: > ... > How different is the 7520 from the 7510? Well, if I go to Dell's Web site, the "7000 Series" only lists the 7520 and the 7720 now, so I'm guessing that the 7510 may have been last year's model...? As far as actual components... who can say? > I'm running HardenedBSD > 12-CURRENT on the 7510 without issues. Both the trackpad and the thing > below and between the G and H keys (I totally forgot what it's called) > work fine for me. Multitouch for vertical scrolling on the trackpad > works fine, too. Indeed; as note the M4800 worked fine for me, and the M4400 worked fine before that, and various Inspiron/Latitude laptops before that -- all Just Worked. > I haven't tried 11-STABLE on this laptop. I'm content to get it working in either stable/11 or head for now. I posted a somewhat more detailed bit of poking to hackers@ a few minutes ago. > Thanks, > .... Thank you! :-) Peace, david --=20 David H. 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