From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 7 17:05:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2896310C69B6 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bch@online.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F33E8B80D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bch@online.de) Received: from x201f.onfire.org ([84.181.92.13]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N1g3U-1fglIS1hDU-011xet for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:52:12 +0200 Received: from x201f.onfire.org ([84.181.92.13]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N1g3U-1fglIS1hDU-011xet for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:52:12 +0200 Received: by x201f.onfire.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D6B0709CF; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 18:52:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Barthel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 11.2 SIP telephony with linphone/baresip (only one way working) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:52:11 +0200 Message-ID: <877eitwvgk.fsf@x230.onfire.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:BzNJlCnydpKqtS2USh1ahgxcq7dw/B3FaDKhtbd5vtiTqvxP/Q9 KxcrGWxG6udTInFLpgoC3WHNb8Mpgk8TRzeT90hYIyOXMm/POpXP399yi9fBBJV7UUvoBaO ihhcIcdSz+mrjdurtK+UoBw8X7zImkTUTK6vgJ7PV1jhmvfy6QE1XBur7ztBGd9H1lf9uUd NqFIas1B5w87J685xbPnQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mZEgYDBqEBc=:hTX83yhu+x+JS4GbM9QnI9 X57OQ1Aa+Xo/C5hjAOR9MPl6tA/OKR1ocYR183eVk05uEvA8culillvKyf+AG8Eo3VcrW1Beb z4nB1qKqYExkNVCJRY1M24rJq8Nw9+RLMYiCKaf/OQiCIv9+obtdk+AFarPxFlOzC1qQD4ZSI 0CbokocaGmhGiGD4Kp0KvLoZUB2Ax9TfCBOsAB8rXH0E73cKSNr3UBgJQV6Tf93thqeZRuVLh 2I4g+9U3gv1kp+OA5ypRApsANseMCLiE5fIlhw8Gn4vd8Oq1ncNO9aEWvDKq9LWvVN4Fv5ENz h8kZSqWh3OfE3vloSIxdjG5Gebo+7zXtwnO1W4CCEvC2pHkRMSK7k4unIL4MqVpYqt3Bj7LJf 1jFng3MkqzHlJq6nBKk3JuBST35hT7TOTjieO4nN8I/TVowa7AXEOnJsLAO9nb70kzr3SXmC4 V7NVVLos/ZDt+g4k6GcUi16J0hZGRh1Y+7xl8YpV8IdEi9ye7GtdVa83WRS7tkXy/jPtoupvI 3nbBtgCzYrJCtE+phPxBCfbsu6zY4m8sI7gBCDjazGO1yKwCun1lVy/DEwWzKqm6Puuqd7PGN fygEx/YdLhpk+UGdQoUHP/gseJ8ywsLtANduxCmbNlFDDDOiwBtOhr0G1eSRZMDuQ3oX/Bm9y FJIvQH524x7ia5pLZQzq1fvFjPicj/E5jSR5NPOX1j/kEOwY14bVv4WW4zRe7srl/nfg3ZK0/ K6JeHfj5iiBeZBh+ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 17:05:13 -0000 Hello, I am trying to set up FreeBSD 11.2 and a SIP phone (I am using sipgate.de at the moment). I've installed linphone and baresip. Both clients connect correctly with sipgate.de, I can make outbound calls and the phone rings when a call arrives. However, those things i am saying do not arrive at the other end. (1) linphone: I've tried various settings with/without STUN servers (stun.sipgate.net) using either TCP or UDP but no luck. My microphone seems to work properly because I recorded one call and I can hear my voice. So, I guess it somehow gets blocked somewhere. I've deactivated any firewall I am controlling (pfctl -d). I am sitting behind a Telekom DSL router and other sip clients do work, so I don't think anything gets blocked by the router or provider. I've attached the linphonerc config and described in a text document the settings of the graphical user interface. (2) baresip: I also tested baresip (0.4 from /usr/ports/audio/baresip) and hoped that this program works. However, the behavior is identically to linphone: I can make calls, hear the other end, but an echo test to sip:10005@sipgate.de echo's back nothing. Also, i guess my baresip config can't be that wrong because I used a similar configuration on OpenBSD (baresip 0.5) and on that system, I can make calls and audio is received in both ways. I've changed the audio system from sndio to oss and removed some audio codecs because those modules weren't available on FreeBSD. I've also attached my baresip config and the verbose output during a call. I've tried Jitsi and ekiga also but those weren't able to connect to sipgate.de. There was a similar discussion at [0], but i guess my problem is a bit different since I can hear sound from the communication partner. Is there anything I can set up differently? Perhaps, I am missing out something obvious. Any help is much appreciated, thanks a lot! Christian [0] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/247802.html Sound, Mixer and System: Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) pcm1: (play/rec) default pcm2: (play) pcm3: (play) pcm4: (play) No devices installed from userspace. Mixer vol is currently set to 31:31 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Mixer ogain is currently set to 100:100 Mixer monitor is currently set to 42:42 Recording source: monitor FreeBSD x230.onfire.org 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Sep 27 08:16:24 UTC 2018 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 .linphonerc: [sip] root_ca=/usr/local/share/linphone/rootca.pem verify_server_certs=1 verify_server_cn=1 contact="" media_encryption=none default_proxy=0 multi_transport_migration_done=1 guess_hostname=1 inc_timeout=30 in_call_timeout=0 delayed_timeout=4 register_only_when_network_is_up=1 register_only_when_upnp_is_ok=1 sip_port=5060 sip_tcp_port=5060 sip_tls_port=-1 use_info=0 use_ipv6=0 [misc] uuid=68355fb3-fb0d-4401-ab55-a15fce5bf70c user_certificates_path=/home/bch/.linphone-usr-crt friends_migration_done=1 [video] capture=1 display=1 automatically_initiate=0 automatically_accept=0 self_view=0 show_local=0 displaytype=MSX11Video size=cif [net] download_bw=0 upload_bw=0 adaptive_rate_control=1 mtu=1300 nat_policy_ref=iQtBqdN86Palrtf [GtkUi] videoselfview=0 logs_scroll_to_end=0 advanced_ui=1 uri0=sip:10005@sipgate.de uri1=10005 [auth_info_0] username=XXXXXXXXXXXXX ha1=xxxxxxxxxxx realm=sipgate.de domain=sipgate.de [sound] playback_dev_id=OSS: /dev/dsp ringer_dev_id=OSS: /dev/dsp capture_dev_id=OSS: /dev/dsp echocancellation=1 remote_ring=/usr/local/share/sounds/linphone/ringback.wav playback_gain_db=0.000000 mic_gain_db=0.000000 [nat_policy_0] ref=iQtBqdN86Palrtf stun_server=stun.sipgate.net [rtp] audio_rtp_port=7078 video_rtp_port=9078 text_rtp_port=11078 audio_jitt_comp=60 video_jitt_comp=60 nortp_timeout=30 audio_adaptive_jitt_comp_enabled=1 video_adaptive_jitt_comp_enabled=1 [audio_codec_0] mime=opus rate=48000 channels=2 enabled=1 [audio_codec_1] mime=speex rate=16000 channels=1 enabled=1 [audio_codec_2] mime=speex rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=1 [audio_codec_3] mime=PCMU rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=1 [audio_codec_4] mime=PCMA rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=1 [audio_codec_5] mime=GSM rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_6] mime=G722 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_7] mime=speex rate=32000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_8] mime=G726-16 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_9] mime=G726-24 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_10] mime=G726-32 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_11] mime=G726-40 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_12] mime=AAL2-G726-16 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_13] mime=AAL2-G726-24 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_14] mime=AAL2-G726-32 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_15] mime=AAL2-G726-40 rate=8000 channels=1 enabled=0 [audio_codec_16] mime=L16 rate=44100 channels=2 enabled=0 [audio_codec_17] mime=L16 rate=44100 channels=1 enabled=0 [video_codec_0] mime=VP8 rate=90000 enabled=1 [video_codec_1] mime=MP4V-ES rate=90000 enabled=1 recv_fmtp=profile-level-id=3 [video_codec_2] mime=H263-1998 rate=90000 enabled=0 recv_fmtp=CIF=1;QCIF=1 [video_codec_3] mime=H263 rate=90000 enabled=0 [proxy_0] reg_proxy= reg_identity=sip:XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de quality_reporting_enabled=0 quality_reporting_interval=0 reg_expires=3600 reg_sendregister=1 publish=1 avpf=0 avpf_rr_interval=5 dial_escape_plus=0 privacy=32768 publish_expires=-1 linphone GUI Dialog: Configure a SIP account dialog: Your Sip identity: sip:USER@sipgate.de SIP Proxy address: Registration duration: 3600 Uransport: UDP Route (optional): [[empty]] Contact params: [[empty]] AVPF regulat RTCP interval: 5 [x] Register [x] Publish presecne information [ ] Enable AVPF =========================================== Settings >> Network Settings: [x] Set maximum transmission Unit: 1300 [ ] Send DTMFs as SIP info [ ] Aloow IPv6 Network protocol and ports SIP / UDP port [ ] disabled [ ] random [5060] SIP / TCP port [ ] disabled [ ] random [5060] Audio RTP/UDP: [7078] [x] fixed Video RTP/UDP: [9078] [x] fixed NAT and Firewall [ ] Direct connection to the Internet [ ] Behind NAT / Firwall (specify gateway IP) [x] Behind NAT / Firewall (use STUN to resolve) stun server: [stun.sipgate.net] [ ] Behind NAT / Firewall (use ICE) [ ] Behind NAT / Firewall (use uPNP) Encryption: Media encryption type: None Media encryption is mandatory: [ ] baresip debug: $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -h baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. Usage: baresip [options] options: -6 Prefer IPv6 -d Daemon -e Exec commands -f Config path -m Pre-load modules (repeat) -p Audio files -h -? Help -t Test and exit -u Extra UA parameters -v Verbose debug $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -t baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. Local network address: IPv4=wlan0:192.168.2.108 $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -v baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. Local network address: IPv4=wlan0:192.168.2.108 ui: stdio opus: fmtp="stereo=1;sprop-stereo=1;maxaveragebitrate=28000" aucodec: opus/48000/2 aucodec: G722/16000/1 aucodec: G726-40/8000/1 aucodec: G726-32/8000/1 aucodec: G726-24/8000/1 aucodec: G726-16/8000/1 aucodec: PCMU/8000/1 aucodec: PCMA/8000/1 gsm: GSM v1.0.10 aucodec: GSM/8000/1 aucodec: L16/44100/2 aucodec: L16/32000/2 aucodec: L16/16000/2 aucodec: L16/8000/2 aucodec: L16/44100/1 aucodec: L16/32000/1 aucodec: L16/16000/1 aucodec: L16/8000/1 aucodec: speex/32000/2 aucodec: speex/16000/2 aucodec: speex/8000/2 aucodec: speex/32000/1 aucodec: speex/16000/1 aucodec: speex/8000/1 aufilt: vumeter aufilt: speex_aec aufilt: speex_pp portaudio: device count is 5 portaudio: device 0: /dev/dsp0 portaudio: device 1: /dev/dsp portaudio: device 2: /dev/dsp2 portaudio: device 3: /dev/dsp3 portaudio: device 4: /dev/dsp4 ausrc: portaudio auplay: portaudio ausrc: oss auplay: oss medianat: stun medianat: turn medianat: ice natpmp: found default gateway 192.168.2.1 on interface 'wlan0' natpmp: using NAT-PMP server at 192.168.2.1:5351 natpmp: {n=0} tx 2 bytes medianat: natpmp mediaenc: srtp mediaenc: srtp-mand mediaenc: srtp-mandf mediaenc: dtls_srtpf mediaenc: dtls_srtp mediaenc: srtp-mandf DTLS-SRTP ready with profiles SRTP_AES128_CM_SHA1_80:SRTP_AES128_CM_SHA1_32 uuid: loaded UUID 9cfafb41-c631-1ba0-83df-86e83d90e64c from file /home/bch/.baresip/uuid Populated 1 account Populated 3 contacts Subscribing to 1 contacts Populated 23 audio codecs Populated 3 audio filters Populated 0 video codecs Populated 0 video filters baresip is ready. XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: {0/UDP/v4} 200 OK () [1 binding] All 1 useragent registered successfully! (65 ms) presence: ua=0x80228a400 got event 1 (REGISTER_OK) natpmp: {n=1} tx 2 bytes natpmp: {n=2} tx 2 bytes natpmp: {n=3} tx 2 bytes natpmp: {n=4} tx 2 bytes > 1000natpmp: {n=5} tx 2 bytes > 10005@sipgate.de call: connecting to 'sip:10005@sipgate.de'.. call: SIP Progress: 100 trying -- your call is important to us (/) audio: Set audio decoder: G722 16000Hz 1ch oss: init: 16000 Hz 1 ch, blocksize=128 audio: Set audio encoder: G722 16000Hz 1ch speex_aec: Speex AEC loaded: srate = 16000Hz warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite speex_pp: Speex preprocessor loaded: srate = 16000Hz oss: init: 16000 Hz 1 ch, blocksize=128 audio tx pipeline: oss ---> vumeter ---> speex_aec ---> speex_pp ---> G722 audio rx pipeline: oss <--- vumeter <--- speex_aec <--- G722 XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: Call established: sip:10005@sipgate.de presence: ua=0x80228a400 got event 9 (CALL_ESTABLISHED) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: 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playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No 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playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns)=== ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: Auto-filling the buffer (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: Auto-filling the buffer (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) sip:10005@sipgate.de: session closed: Connection reset by peer ] [ ] warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) presence: ua=0x80228a400 got event 10 (CALL_CLOSED) sip:XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: Call with sip:10005@sipgate.de terminated (duration: 21 secs) main: long async blocking: 130>100 ms (h=0x8008891b0 arg=0x8022ca180) natpmp: {n=7} tx 2 bytes presence: subscriber closed : Operation timed out; will retry in 30 secs (failc=1) # baresip configuration # Core poll_method kqueue # poll, select, kqueue .. # SIP sip_trans_bsize 128 #sip_listen 0.0.0.0:5060 #sip_certificate cert.pem # Audio # audio_dev /dev/dsp audio_player oss,/dev/dsp audio_source oss,/dev/dsp audio_alert oss,/dev/dsp #audio_player sndio,default #audio_source sndio,default #audio_alert sndio,default audio_srate 8000-48000 audio_channels 1-2 #ausrc_srate 48000 #auplay_srate 48000 #ausrc_channels 0 #auplay_channels 0 # Video #video_source v4l2,/dev/video0 #video_display x11,nil video_size 352x288 video_bitrate 500000 video_fps 25 # AVT - Audio/Video Transport rtp_tos 184 #rtp_ports 10000-20000 #rtp_bandwidth 512-1024 # [kbit/s] rtcp_enable yes rtcp_mux no jitter_buffer_delay 5-10 # frames rtp_stats no # Network #dns_server 10.0.0.1:53 #net_interface gif0 # BFCP #bfcp_proto udp #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Modules #module_path /usr/local/lib/baresip/modules module_path /jail/portsj/usr/local/lib/baresip/modules # UI Modules module stdio.so #module cons.so #module httpd.so # Audio codec Modules (in order) module opus.so # module amr.so module g722.so module g726.so module g711.so module gsm.so module l16.so module speex.so # module mpa.so # Audio filter Modules (in encoding order) module vumeter.so #module sndfile.so module speex_aec.so module speex_pp.so #module plc.so # Audio driver Modules #module sndio.so #module aubridge.so #module aufile.so module portaudio.so module oss.so # Video codec Modules (in order) #module avcodec.so #module daala.so #module h265.so #module vpx.so # Video filter Modules (in encoding order) #module selfview.so #module snapshot.so # Video source modules #module v4l2.so #module avformat.so #module x11grab.so #module vidbridge.so # Video display modules #module x11.so #module fakevideo.so # Media NAT modules module stun.so module turn.so module ice.so module natpmp.so # Media encryption modules module srtp.so module dtls_srtp.so #module zrtp.so #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Temporary Modules (loaded then unloaded) module_tmp uuid.so module_tmp account.so #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Application Modules module_app auloop.so module_app contact.so #module_app echo.so module_app menu.so #module_app mwi.so #module_app natbd.so module_app presence.so #module_app syslog.so module_app vidloop.so #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # These modules are in baresip-gtk2 package: #module gst1.so #module gst_video1.so #module_app gtk.so #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Module parameters cons_listen 0.0.0.0:5555 http_listen 0.0.0.0:8000 # Speex codec parameters speex_quality 7 # 0-10 speex_complexity 7 # 0-10 speex_enhancement 0 # 0-1 speex_mode_nb 3 # 1-6 speex_mode_wb 6 # 1-6 speex_vbr 0 # Variable Bit Rate 0-1 speex_vad 0 # Voice Activity Detection 0-1 speex_agc_level 8000 # Opus codec parameters opus_bitrate 28000 # 6000-510000 # Selfview video_selfview window # {window,pip} #selfview_size 64x64 # ICE ice_turn no ice_debug no ice_nomination regular # {regular,aggressive} ice_mode full # {full,lite} From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 7 21:40:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711B10CDE72; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8321E95CBD; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.59.48]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MPp0l-1gM6o71R7z-00Mx6g; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 23:40:40 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.59.48]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MPp0l-1gM6o71R7z-00Mx6g; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 23:40:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 23:40:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) Message-Id: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: 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Replies from that list please keep me CC'd as I'm not subscribed to that list. Thanks in advance! I have a strange and unique problem to solve and would like to ask for pointers into the right direction (or at least pointers into wrong directions _not_ to take). My IBM Thinkpad 755C died. In fact, the very special PSU exploded. It provided special voltages (10V=, 20V=) on a special plug (4-pin semi-rectangular). Its special disk can't be placed into a comparable laptop as it's not a regular 2.5" unit - it's a little bit taller and therefore won't fit the usual (P)ATA 2.5" disk bays. There is some special software on that disk that I need to use from time to time, and there is no way to use a modern laptop (too fast, missing required connectors and drives, as well as low-level control over those resources). The software I have to use is very special and cannot be replaced by anything else. I can access (P)ATA laptop disks fine with FreeBSD and a USB disk adapter, so reading disk content and copying it to somewhere else is not a problem. I plan to dedicate a Fujitsu-Siemens Litebook LFL-G (500 MHz AMD CPU, 128 MB RAM) as a replacement. It will also obtain the functions formerly provided by a Toshiba T-2130CT laptop whose disk drive, power supply, battery, case etc. died. But the disk is still there. The Litebook will get a hard disk of 10 GB (or less, if I still have one) partitioned as follows: 1st slice: 100 MB MS-DOS 5.0 from the Toshiba T-2130CT 2nd slice: 500 MB MS-DOS 6.22 + NDOS from a different DOS system 3rd slice: 1000 MB "Windows '95" + NDOS hybrid that was on the IBM disk in the Thinkpad 755C 4th slice: remaining space: "Windows '98" as it came with that laptop (original CD and license key present) The intended use of "slice" indicates that there will be 4 "DOS primary partitions" on the disk. Staying with the "drive letters" from DOS, every OS should see the partition it booted from as C:, and it would be great if it didn't touch (or maybe even didn't recognize) any of the other partitions. I think I could even use a 500 MB disk and strip everything down to 50 + 100 + 150 + 200 MB as per the layout shown above! That would also be fully sufficient for the special purposes. What I'm asking for _now_ is a convenient way to select which OS to boot. I would not want to use today's GRUB because I don't plan to use Linux on that particular system. In my opinion, the FreeBSD boot manager will work nicely, but it will list all 4 systems with the name "DOS". From what I learned by reading its source, this is due to auto detection. I don't need that feature, I'd think about altering the code in order to hard-code 4 names, like this: F1 DOS 5 F2 DOS 6 F3 Win 95 F4 Win 98 Default: F1 So if I needed to boot the system that formerly ran on the Thinkpad 755C, I'd press F3 and it would boot. Sure, I understand that there is a good chance that I have to reconfigure drivers and such (as it's a typical thing with "Windows"), but that won't be the big problem. I know everything has to fit 512 bytes (and the code of the boot manager illustrates this requirement very nicely by how the text for the possible boot options is stored and selected). Questions: Would you say this is a possible way to go? Or would you suggest that I refresh my assembly knowledge and write something myself, maybe using the existing FreeBSD boot manager as inspiration and organ donor? ;-) Or maybe there is something that can be installed and initially configured from DOS? Distant past... I know there _were_ multi-boot utilities decades ago, but I cannot remember any names. There is no luxury required, no GUI, no boot graphics - just a simple means to select the OS that should be booted. Oh, or maybe there is a long-forgotten functionality in the newer "Windows" versions ('95 and '98 will be finally installed, but none of then will ever see the Internet, of course), those also once contained some kind of strange boot manager? If everything fails, I could still try to use the FreeBSD boot manager "as is", with the following result predicted: F1 DOS F2 DOS F3 DOS F4 DOS Default: F1 I'm not sure if it will recognize old-fashioned "Windows '95" as "DOS" or "Windows"... Thank you for any inspiration! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 02:35:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9552710B01A6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 02:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from out1-8.antispamcloud.com (out1-8.antispamcloud.com [185.201.16.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B60757A7 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 02:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from [153.92.8.106] (helo=srv31.niagahoster.com) by mx35.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g9LNw-0000oy-Rw; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 04:35:10 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ikOuL8zdTNvF5MOIVyP4LmuaCQaQYeprUjsGBBlr8gY=; b=BoWFKCW45nt/uRUTPyhnwdF0AW R5kg3sMYmbNSksWYX1UuR4IgID4WsyqsZ3/inuA9+WTkqbkTCNhM9NVfjbc6dYH7BkTKBZSxMkct8 sAlt24C+sR6cM9JmUX9hnEKCFJtoj3GrvOkdR9xPzD9CQxHvt/mEKHGO0/4dUhFGQwxqFhbZHJHlf nV8HsAFP+IGJqb6yYis8Bfc1t3gbt4sJhpiWHsmK8A4Sutp/UW80nIdDlMlnvC0wUUYLX2xnKmCle nEhJ59yP2aUZvxshZPxqgyM6qjyJDBi5jzBOW1AlyGqcSSQnPBZPLaicLHkHe/4b6YlUDYVZlhKTr LRxlZhdQ==; Received: from [182.1.82.126] (port=44575 helo=X220.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1g9LMu-0005Bt-HH; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:34:15 +0700 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:33:57 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Christian Barthel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 11.2 SIP telephony with linphone/baresip (only one way working) Message-ID: <20181008102305.31c2eedf.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: <877eitwvgk.fsf@x230.onfire.org> References: <877eitwvgk.fsf@x230.onfire.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-AntiSpamCloud-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Username: niaga Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=niaga@out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Class: ham X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.02) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5n4dCkELfFWiVbkuJnW57EN602E9L7XzfQH6nu9C/Fh9KJzpNe6xgvOx q3u0UDjvO23z86M5Twb4F3n0uGnz/8aFZ31yduWiPl8n4FBGFNko8mPblsQv3PtdAUpOGP4nrP6s 9zJFlUIrNGVVNbRCp4S8comMI/MlmyMqYCKpgxl4VrkVq5D4oaud2KgHdRDTaoPAgTtUp75uqlx0 KezvZHX/Vm5Z97BP7a54xR+Bi8bu5uYqVWquzFCUHdsOsi1PW+0Eidzv7xUmtfqhhPMNuJ5rTs/e hr9X5RqEFTfB8h6c8XBIo15TslrtmG58MJbIe9Nj2gH36xYASQ8MSpHHs0ThVqvgDnCZYPJFUbWN 2gaOx7gnV2ssmWN5e66U4f1E6eeY3gvx7MMqWor83813ZOEmyJVNdsbZe26rnA9cdJYVm3crh8qv AByhjgHa32bc299fxN2oReTDHAyOynaY0ClDpfob/mIeeKIYM+QcsoCTIRFsicyJMEhQFtD8PLoi ngDAVE0LDqavceS6CUDOisguC54qR0DXEHm1B53l7yqVVzAFWiDMirclXJp1oBKOouidX4Ts4xdG +C13IyWeZaI7dR5+YNjGIUGUJqSE65+3ezpVeNA1AZIqkDewm4+COGTxmFA0yPoGxfLs7NSvtgmR HdE27RTrtK6NA5E5fRID5HyDI6HUv3MvZTvdD3Z8NPdjzQ6YC7Heg3Xf7O1TOd6Z09bHvzl8BgPQ joNPR6RbZ2TfRPqch8Ux86y1iNSPBLqVtb7TYqDPLmtJ3R5jbGyxFAgY6zCR42Yn3H4RCXCKIbnc qDnMndYz3/9QiZRT94tW5O7oQeCL6qMF0N8r1z3pAXnrGA4CDNa5JkRTD9kWC0tQSTMdbp1IU+2P YaaSyE+oYiHKwTzpAMQF7/d+zFHy3deP8vNnmz84mDUvZqxnq7l0iUd2dFY7u9IaheWB/smJOjBf ZTha4mB3IfXrNHcMTNzWEgTonCSTsfUZEFqp X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine1.antispamcloud.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:35:22 -0000 Hi, did you try to record sound locally? It might be a problem totally outside of telephony. Erich On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:52:11 +0200 Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello,=20 >=20 > I am trying to set up FreeBSD 11.2 and a SIP phone (I am using > sipgate.de at the moment). I've installed linphone and baresip. Both > clients connect correctly with sipgate.de, I can make outbound calls > and the phone rings when a call arrives. However, those things i am > saying do not arrive at the other end. >=20 > (1) linphone: I've tried various settings with/without STUN servers > (stun.sipgate.net) using either TCP or UDP but no luck. My microphone > seems to work properly because I recorded one call and I can hear my > voice. So, I guess it somehow gets blocked somewhere. >=20 > I've deactivated any firewall I am controlling (pfctl -d). I am > sitting behind a Telekom DSL router and other sip clients do work, so > I don't think anything gets blocked by the router or provider.=20 >=20 > I've attached the linphonerc config and described in a text document > the settings of the graphical user interface.=20 >=20 > (2) baresip: I also tested baresip (0.4 from /usr/ports/audio/baresip) > and hoped that this program works. However, the behavior is > identically to linphone: I can make calls, hear the other end, but an > echo test to sip:10005@sipgate.de echo's back nothing. Also, i guess > my baresip config can't be that wrong because I used a similar > configuration on OpenBSD (baresip 0.5) and on that system, I can make > calls and audio is received in both ways. I've changed the audio > system from sndio to oss and removed some audio codecs because those > modules weren't available on FreeBSD.=20 >=20 > I've also attached my baresip config and the verbose output during a > call. >=20 > I've tried Jitsi and ekiga also but those weren't able to connect to > sipgate.de. There was a similar discussion at [0], but i guess my > problem is a bit different since I can hear sound from the > communication partner. >=20 > Is there anything I can set up differently? Perhaps, I am missing out > something obvious. =20 >=20 > Any help is much appreciated, thanks a lot! > Christian >=20 > [0] > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/247802= .html >=20 > =0C > Sound, Mixer and System: >=20 > Installed devices: > pcm0: (play/rec) > pcm1: (play/rec) default > pcm2: (play) > pcm3: (play) > pcm4: (play) > No devices installed from userspace. >=20 > Mixer vol is currently set to 31:31 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 > Mixer ogain is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer monitor is currently set to 42:42 > Recording source: monitor >=20 > FreeBSD x230.onfire.org 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: > Thu Sep 27 08:16:24 UTC 2018 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > =0C > .linphonerc:=20 >=20 > [sip] > root_ca=3D/usr/local/share/linphone/rootca.pem > verify_server_certs=3D1 > verify_server_cn=3D1 > contact=3D"" > media_encryption=3Dnone > default_proxy=3D0 > multi_transport_migration_done=3D1 > guess_hostname=3D1 > inc_timeout=3D30 > in_call_timeout=3D0 > delayed_timeout=3D4 > register_only_when_network_is_up=3D1 > register_only_when_upnp_is_ok=3D1 > sip_port=3D5060 > sip_tcp_port=3D5060 > sip_tls_port=3D-1 > use_info=3D0 > use_ipv6=3D0 >=20 > [misc] > uuid=3D68355fb3-fb0d-4401-ab55-a15fce5bf70c > user_certificates_path=3D/home/bch/.linphone-usr-crt > friends_migration_done=3D1 >=20 > [video] > capture=3D1 > display=3D1 > automatically_initiate=3D0 > automatically_accept=3D0 > self_view=3D0 > show_local=3D0 > displaytype=3DMSX11Video > size=3Dcif >=20 > [net] > download_bw=3D0 > upload_bw=3D0 > adaptive_rate_control=3D1 > mtu=3D1300 > nat_policy_ref=3DiQtBqdN86Palrtf >=20 > [GtkUi] > videoselfview=3D0 > logs_scroll_to_end=3D0 > advanced_ui=3D1 > uri0=3Dsip:10005@sipgate.de > uri1=3D10005 >=20 > [auth_info_0] > username=3DXXXXXXXXXXXXX > ha1=3Dxxxxxxxxxxx > realm=3Dsipgate.de > domain=3Dsipgate.de >=20 > [sound] > playback_dev_id=3DOSS: /dev/dsp > ringer_dev_id=3DOSS: /dev/dsp > capture_dev_id=3DOSS: /dev/dsp > echocancellation=3D1 > remote_ring=3D/usr/local/share/sounds/linphone/ringback.wav > playback_gain_db=3D0.000000 > mic_gain_db=3D0.000000 >=20 > [nat_policy_0] > ref=3DiQtBqdN86Palrtf > stun_server=3Dstun.sipgate.net >=20 > [rtp] > audio_rtp_port=3D7078 > video_rtp_port=3D9078 > text_rtp_port=3D11078 > audio_jitt_comp=3D60 > video_jitt_comp=3D60 > nortp_timeout=3D30 > audio_adaptive_jitt_comp_enabled=3D1 > video_adaptive_jitt_comp_enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_0] > mime=3Dopus > rate=3D48000 > channels=3D2 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_1] > mime=3Dspeex > rate=3D16000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_2] > mime=3Dspeex > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_3] > mime=3DPCMU > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_4] > mime=3DPCMA > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [audio_codec_5] > mime=3DGSM > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_6] > mime=3DG722 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_7] > mime=3Dspeex > rate=3D32000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_8] > mime=3DG726-16 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_9] > mime=3DG726-24 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_10] > mime=3DG726-32 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_11] > mime=3DG726-40 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_12] > mime=3DAAL2-G726-16 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_13] > mime=3DAAL2-G726-24 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_14] > mime=3DAAL2-G726-32 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_15] > mime=3DAAL2-G726-40 > rate=3D8000 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_16] > mime=3DL16 > rate=3D44100 > channels=3D2 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [audio_codec_17] > mime=3DL16 > rate=3D44100 > channels=3D1 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [video_codec_0] > mime=3DVP8 > rate=3D90000 > enabled=3D1 >=20 > [video_codec_1] > mime=3DMP4V-ES > rate=3D90000 > enabled=3D1 > recv_fmtp=3Dprofile-level-id=3D3 >=20 > [video_codec_2] > mime=3DH263-1998 > rate=3D90000 > enabled=3D0 > recv_fmtp=3DCIF=3D1;QCIF=3D1 >=20 > [video_codec_3] > mime=3DH263 > rate=3D90000 > enabled=3D0 >=20 > [proxy_0] > reg_proxy=3D > reg_identity=3Dsip:XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de > quality_reporting_enabled=3D0 > quality_reporting_interval=3D0 > reg_expires=3D3600 > reg_sendregister=3D1 > publish=3D1 > avpf=3D0 > avpf_rr_interval=3D5 > dial_escape_plus=3D0 > privacy=3D32768 > publish_expires=3D-1 >=20 >=20 > =0C > linphone GUI Dialog: >=20 > Configure a SIP account dialog:=20 >=20 > Your Sip identity: sip:USER@sipgate.de > SIP Proxy address: > Registration duration: 3600 > Uransport: UDP > Route (optional): [[empty]] > Contact params: [[empty]] > AVPF regulat RTCP interval: 5 >=20 > [x] Register > [x] Publish presecne information > [ ] Enable AVPF >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Settings >> Network Settings: >=20 > [x] Set maximum transmission Unit: 1300 > [ ] Send DTMFs as SIP info > [ ] Aloow IPv6 >=20 > Network protocol and ports >=20 > SIP / UDP port [ ] disabled [ ] random [5060] > SIP / TCP port [ ] disabled [ ] random [5060] > Audio RTP/UDP: [7078] [x] fixed > Video RTP/UDP: [9078] [x] fixed >=20 > NAT and Firewall >=20 > [ ] Direct connection to the Internet > [ ] Behind NAT / Firwall (specify gateway IP) > [x] Behind NAT / Firewall (use STUN to resolve) stun server: > [stun.sipgate.net] [ ] Behind NAT / Firewall (use ICE) > [ ] Behind NAT / Firewall (use uPNP) >=20 > Encryption:=20 >=20 > Media encryption type: None > Media encryption is mandatory: [ ] =20 >=20 >=20 > =0C > baresip debug:=20 >=20 > $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -h > baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. > Usage: baresip [options] > options: > -6 Prefer IPv6 > -d Daemon > -e Exec commands > -f Config path > -m Pre-load modules (repeat) > -p Audio files > -h -? Help > -t Test and exit > -u Extra UA parameters > -v Verbose debug > $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -t > baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. > Local network address: IPv4=3Dwlan0:192.168.2.108 > $ /jail/portsj/usr/local/bin/baresip -v > baresip v0.4.19 Copyright (C) 2010 - 2016 Alfred E. Heggestad et al. > Local network address: IPv4=3Dwlan0:192.168.2.108 > ui: stdio > opus: fmtp=3D"stereo=3D1;sprop-stereo=3D1;maxaveragebitrate=3D28000" > aucodec: opus/48000/2 > aucodec: G722/16000/1 > aucodec: G726-40/8000/1 > aucodec: G726-32/8000/1 > aucodec: G726-24/8000/1 > aucodec: G726-16/8000/1 > aucodec: PCMU/8000/1 > aucodec: PCMA/8000/1 > gsm: GSM v1.0.10 > aucodec: GSM/8000/1 > aucodec: L16/44100/2 > aucodec: L16/32000/2 > aucodec: L16/16000/2 > aucodec: L16/8000/2 > aucodec: L16/44100/1 > aucodec: L16/32000/1 > aucodec: L16/16000/1 > aucodec: L16/8000/1 > aucodec: speex/32000/2 > aucodec: speex/16000/2 > aucodec: speex/8000/2 > aucodec: speex/32000/1 > aucodec: speex/16000/1 > aucodec: speex/8000/1 > aufilt: vumeter > aufilt: speex_aec > aufilt: speex_pp > portaudio: device count is 5 > portaudio: device 0: /dev/dsp0 > portaudio: device 1: /dev/dsp > portaudio: device 2: /dev/dsp2 > portaudio: device 3: /dev/dsp3 > portaudio: device 4: /dev/dsp4 > ausrc: portaudio > auplay: portaudio > ausrc: oss > auplay: oss > medianat: stun > medianat: turn > medianat: ice > natpmp: found default gateway 192.168.2.1 on interface 'wlan0' > natpmp: using NAT-PMP server at 192.168.2.1:5351 > natpmp: {n=3D0} tx 2 bytes > medianat: natpmp > mediaenc: srtp > mediaenc: srtp-mand > mediaenc: srtp-mandf > mediaenc: dtls_srtpf > mediaenc: dtls_srtp > mediaenc: srtp-mandf > DTLS-SRTP ready with profiles > SRTP_AES128_CM_SHA1_80:SRTP_AES128_CM_SHA1_32 uuid: loaded UUID > 9cfafb41-c631-1ba0-83df-86e83d90e64c from > file /home/bch/.baresip/uuid Populated 1 account Populated 3 contacts > Subscribing to 1 contacts > Populated 23 audio codecs > Populated 3 audio filters > Populated 0 video codecs > Populated 0 video filters > baresip is ready. > XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: {0/UDP/v4} 200 OK () [1 binding] > All 1 useragent registered successfully! (65 ms) > presence: ua=3D0x80228a400 got event 1 (REGISTER_OK) > natpmp: {n=3D1} tx 2 bytes > natpmp: {n=3D2} tx 2 bytes > natpmp: {n=3D3} tx 2 bytes > natpmp: {n=3D4} tx 2 bytes > > 1000natpmp: {n=3D5} tx 2 bytes > > 10005@sipgate.de =20 > call: connecting to 'sip:10005@sipgate.de'.. > call: SIP Progress: 100 trying -- your call is important to us (/) > audio: Set audio decoder: G722 16000Hz 1ch > oss: init: 16000 Hz 1 ch, blocksize=3D128 > audio: Set audio encoder: G722 16000Hz 1ch > speex_aec: Speex AEC loaded: srate =3D 16000Hz > warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete > rewrite speex_pp: Speex preprocessor loaded: srate =3D 16000Hz > oss: init: 16000 Hz 1 ch, blocksize=3D128 > audio tx pipeline: oss ---> vumeter ---> speex_aec ---> > speex_pp ---> G722 audio rx pipeline: oss <--- vumeter <--- > speex_aec <--- G722 XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: Call established: > sip:10005@sipgate.de presence: ua=3D0x80228a400 got event 9 > (CALL_ESTABLISHED) warning: No playback 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and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: > Auto-filling the buffer (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > natpmp: {n=3D6} tx 2 bytes/s) > [ ] [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback fra= me > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns) ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns) ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got 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(your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy 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(your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame 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available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got > xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame available (your > application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: No > playback frame available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: No playback frame available (your application is buggy > and/or got xruns)=3D=3D=3D ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) warning: > Auto-filling the buffer (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) > warning: Auto-filling the buffer (your application is buggy and/or > got xruns) sip:10005@sipgate.de: session closed: Connection reset by > peer ] [ ] warning: No playback frame > available (your application is buggy and/or got xruns) presence: > ua=3D0x80228a400 got event 10 (CALL_CLOSED) sip:XXXXXXXXX@sipgate.de: > Call with sip:10005@sipgate.de terminated (duration: 21 secs) main: > long async blocking: 130>100 ms (h=3D0x8008891b0 arg=3D0x8022ca180) > natpmp: {n=3D7} tx 2 bytes presence: subscriber closed > : Operation timed out; will retry in 30 secs > (failc=3D1) >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0C > # baresip configuration >=20 > # Core > poll_method kqueue # poll, select, > kqueue .. >=20 > # SIP > sip_trans_bsize 128 > #sip_listen 0.0.0.0:5060 > #sip_certificate cert.pem >=20 > # Audio > # audio_dev /dev/dsp > audio_player oss,/dev/dsp > audio_source oss,/dev/dsp > audio_alert oss,/dev/dsp > #audio_player sndio,default > #audio_source sndio,default > #audio_alert sndio,default > audio_srate 8000-48000 > audio_channels 1-2 > #ausrc_srate 48000 > #auplay_srate 48000 > #ausrc_channels 0 > #auplay_channels 0 >=20 > # Video > #video_source v4l2,/dev/video0 > #video_display x11,nil > video_size 352x288 > video_bitrate 500000 > video_fps 25 >=20 > # AVT - Audio/Video Transport > rtp_tos 184 > #rtp_ports 10000-20000 > #rtp_bandwidth 512-1024 # [kbit/s] > rtcp_enable yes > rtcp_mux no > jitter_buffer_delay 5-10 # frames > rtp_stats no >=20 > # Network > #dns_server 10.0.0.1:53 > #net_interface gif0 >=20 > # BFCP > #bfcp_proto udp >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > # Modules >=20 > #module_path /usr/local/lib/baresip/modules > module_path /jail/portsj/usr/local/lib/baresip/modules >=20 > # UI Modules > module stdio.so > #module cons.so > #module httpd.so >=20 > # Audio codec Modules (in order) > module opus.so > # module amr.so > module g722.so > module g726.so > module g711.so > module gsm.so > module l16.so > module speex.so > # module mpa.so >=20 > # Audio filter Modules (in encoding order) > module vumeter.so > #module sndfile.so > module speex_aec.so > module speex_pp.so > #module plc.so >=20 > # Audio driver Modules > #module sndio.so > #module aubridge.so > #module aufile.so > module portaudio.so > module oss.so >=20 > # Video codec Modules (in order) > #module avcodec.so > #module daala.so > #module h265.so > #module vpx.so >=20 > # Video filter Modules (in encoding order) > #module selfview.so > #module snapshot.so >=20 > # Video source modules > #module v4l2.so > #module avformat.so > #module x11grab.so > #module vidbridge.so >=20 > # Video display modules > #module x11.so > #module fakevideo.so >=20 > # Media NAT modules > module stun.so > module turn.so > module ice.so > module natpmp.so >=20 > # Media encryption modules > module srtp.so > module dtls_srtp.so > #module zrtp.so >=20 >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > # Temporary Modules (loaded then unloaded) >=20 > module_tmp uuid.so > module_tmp account.so >=20 >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > # Application Modules >=20 > module_app auloop.so > module_app contact.so > #module_app echo.so > module_app menu.so > #module_app mwi.so > #module_app natbd.so > module_app presence.so > #module_app syslog.so > module_app vidloop.so >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > # These modules are in baresip-gtk2 package: > #module gst1.so > #module gst_video1.so > #module_app gtk.so >=20 >=20 > #------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > # Module parameters >=20 >=20 > cons_listen 0.0.0.0:5555 >=20 > http_listen 0.0.0.0:8000 >=20 > # Speex codec parameters > speex_quality 7 # 0-10 > speex_complexity 7 # 0-10 > speex_enhancement 0 # 0-1 > speex_mode_nb 3 # 1-6 > speex_mode_wb 6 # 1-6 > speex_vbr 0 # Variable Bit Rate 0-1 > speex_vad 0 # Voice Activity Detection 0-1 > speex_agc_level 8000 >=20 > # Opus codec parameters > opus_bitrate 28000 # 6000-510000 >=20 > # Selfview > video_selfview window # {window,pip} > #selfview_size 64x64 >=20 > # ICE > ice_turn no > ice_debug no > ice_nomination regular # {regular,aggressive} > ice_mode full # {full,lite} > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 05:37:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2527610B38AF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 05:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bch@online.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8518C7A8B4 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 05:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bch@online.de) Received: from s12.onfire.org ([195.201.29.73]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mz9IT-1fmvLO21ad-00wDew; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:23:29 +0200 Received: from s12.onfire.org ([195.201.29.73]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mz9IT-1fmvLO21ad-00wDew; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:23:29 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: Erich Dollansky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 11.2 SIP telephony with linphone/baresip (only one way working) References: <877eitwvgk.fsf@x230.onfire.org> <20181008102305.31c2eedf.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:23:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20181008102305.31c2eedf.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> (Erich Dollansky's message of "Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:33:57 +0800") Message-ID: <87sh1hc8q7.fsf@s12.onfire.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rPeXxrzeq8SehoTA3QGm0p39lm1xc/9A3/pCzXh/Q+pOtrZ0AI1 wuFmxE7SBdHUlEKXlZN2D0yGm7pft5qujaifCgAy/JqKpBl+UfEH4SQnqkHcSOr7UxA1I1z 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Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 05:37:06 -0000 Erich Dollansky writes: > did you try to record sound locally? Hello, thanks for your reply. Yes, I did that: I've recored with linphones recording mechanism. I can try recording with something completely different later this day but to me, it seems that recording works fine. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 14:53:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC3E10C1915 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF338D984 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 107C910C1913; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F349110C1912 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 716BA8D982 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id 193-v6so8586535wme.3 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8fq3+2iXHCdSuw0f5VFOAPnMQEgqOhLi+p413gnODTE=; b=Eh+AHV0JQgaPwCM6JgSykrX9GkUWxY9hBbA0VN6IEzSCJ2v9Qhu0QFARYRKrKwlgem NDKx3XWnxnz1f4OL3lfUF7+J7JX9gPpQlDzIynSP51Xw2uxKo/+Pm1NQAcFhT5WtqS2X X0l2wKwVYZn/P9bMLJWuvoXg3qicX0u2x+ssttM0frAyyu/t0PFUB8ZPOERphlIR0SGv zADgpqNiIf2qoPj0UpFgC4Q46rmyi/OUvF5nvY9oWcd/T4Q9P5zypUuOE9hG7ZDEXPQv uPL84CR80kdK8OAYMyEizMXGEDTV/nIgcMqySxsTehiSJQyjf0dcQO+5n1g1A16+CnIc f5ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8fq3+2iXHCdSuw0f5VFOAPnMQEgqOhLi+p413gnODTE=; b=hGgERIJH6HcDFA4D1mGXgHgkNtD4k0OJTOTovq7HucUVxHoZD60eLQ25l4/F0FtetM Ki1AcJJ07TVECWyFvVaoRRunVOQW+vifJSBt8k5xD62D2P4DP3MOnoTtk2XLRwytZlN4 LEC9ZtzCdK9J4uDK9i6zljaXis7H3/6DTBYnV83PyQK+RlvOKBcJD00zB4b49zOrYyqQ xoQSQBWcQrHcfAl2/lcKS0BoB0/N47Mf3kq8Ebd6OWSb5MtQx96Y2ueaZMq2RnwFf0z7 bj0SXgS6JOxfkZfckhJR/L72SQEc23sPBFwHlSknxfN6pmw8pDYRuTRxeA2tYr9fUd9Z +c9g== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogsiOtjz/9D2V/Hfy26Fy6ng5Ip6kjv0jVrAMoCs3UhLiUZm6Fu 3DgH3ZQERIOtscb+4TES+BCcZuMAEQE2jCBMMXiOYIYTv1c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60Is3DniCSENh7i7CJBloYvj7of5jbrYOOioJYvRCKSiu/ZVqfumJR6TCwfY2RkRcuo2eZTTLbmmm9K6A0X4y0= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:3383:: with SMTP id z125-v6mr15391939wmz.56.1539010396755; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:53:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:52:38 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Change from -STABLE to -REALEASE To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:53:19 -0000 Is there a way to change a FreeBSD NN-STABLE to NN-RELEASE? Asking on behalf of freebsd-update :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 15:26:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4716710C29BD for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D72A28F135 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E4C0B209 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/3E4C0B209; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Change from -STABLE to -REALEASE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <8d5911d8-31f2-022b-6545-468672d0886b@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:25:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:26:00 -0000 On 08/10/2018 15:52, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Is there a way to change a FreeBSD NN-STABLE to NN-RELEASE? > Asking on behalf of freebsd-update :-) freebsd-update knows nothing about the NN-STABLE branch. Which means that just running freebsd-update(8) is not necessarily going to give the best results. I have vague memories of trying to do what you're asking (some time ago now), and I /think/ that if you use the 'major version bump' commandline and follow the prompts freebsd-update gives you, you do eventually get to something fairly similar to NN-RELEASE. There may be extraneous files from NN-STABLE still hanging around. You other alternative is to checkout the NN-RELEASE sources, build and install your NN-RELEASE system from source and then you should be able to switch to using freebsd-update(8) -- although your home-built version of NN-RELEASE won't match checksums properly against the official release. In many ways it's probably easier to install a NN-RELEASE box from scratch and then port over the customizations and interesting data from your NN-STABLE box. Assuming you have spare hardware laying around... Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 16:20:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DACA10C3EAB for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E0770F7B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AA43110C3EAA; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8825310C3EA9 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: from dirk.psychedelicpirate.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1560:a000:2:ead:217e:c33d:88d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 183DF70F7A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: from ip5b41b0d1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([91.65.176.209] helo=[10.0.1.83]) by dirk.psychedelicpirate.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g9YGS-0004lH-Lo; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 18:20:12 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-E528C9B9-EB18-45B2-9A46-5064A74F167F; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Change from -STABLE to -REALEASE From: =?utf-8?Q?Niels_Kobsch=C3=A4tzki?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16A366) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 18:20:05 +0200 Cc: questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Odhiambo Washington Sender: nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:20:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-E528C9B9-EB18-45B2-9A46-5064A74F167F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On 8. Oct 2018, at 16:52, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >=20 > Is there a way to change a FreeBSD NN-STABLE to NN-RELEASE? > Asking on behalf of freebsd-update :-) Yes, but only when doing dot- or major-upgrades (11.1 to 11.2 or 10.x to 11 f= or example).=20 Build a generic kernel and world (especially freebsd-update should be built ;= )) and boot from it. Then issue a (iirc) UNAME_r=3D11.1-RELEASE freebsd-update upgrade -r 11.2-RELEASE That will then install a 11.2-Release over your 11.1-stable. I switched more= than a dozen servers but on some I had to do some work on the loader.conf b= ecause I had a pretty minimal kernel before and the system didn=E2=80=99t bo= ot anymore.=20 And while you are at it, set up a poudriere and switch to pkg sourced from y= our local poudriere ;) Niels= --Apple-Mail-E528C9B9-EB18-45B2-9A46-5064A74F167F Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCBTww ggU4MIIEIKADAgECAhEAr6n437vJsiwAUCVEziRuhjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBlzELMAkGA1UE BhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgTEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgG A1UEChMRQ09NT0RPIENBIExpbWl0ZWQxPTA7BgNVBAMTNENPTU9ETyBSU0EgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhl bnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0EwHhcNMTgwNDI0MDAwMDAwWhcNMTkwNDI0MjM1 OTU5WjAnMSUwIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhZuaWVsc0Brb2JzY2hhZXR6a2kubmV0MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA+UxKl+wvB98lHTwqK5LP+601IqSe5PXb+4xq6b5V4XSe5bD8 SjxmB/CNOQfrG8Klz9aH4l/cgu44Zq3HOUAuoAQk9EGb/4d/eETchgz1HDglNGf6EuWEzDUoPbUf u27i/ElHP2gsPEcvbL6w7IMVjP2nSlAgHRxFVq8AtmySUjlkQvdhBp/iXgUgQ4N8Qqw46ZubUg5M DSIhYl6ASUck+vXunzKAo/777m5SjH0DBSaTofLZzaTg0KuuHTwcgHPG6MbBVGGcZbPzLnyGIk8B 6lhxoqKnGQU00WHt3sl4MURXP4SiC24yVhh45cftbgU/oR3fs4vhZGHBRz+WrNl0zwIDAQABo4IB 7DCCAegwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUgq9sjPjF/pZhfOgfPStxSF7Ei8AwHQYDVR0OBBYEFMe2Z/Fvd8u2 EIu7EGgPVeNh2WWoMA4GA1UdDwEB/wQEAwIFoDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMCAGA1UdJQQZMBcGCCsG AQUFBwMEBgsrBgEEAbIxAQMFAjARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBSAwRgYDVR0gBD8wPTA7BgwrBgEE AbIxAQIBAQEwKzApBggrBgEFBQcCARYdaHR0cHM6Ly9zZWN1cmUuY29tb2RvLm5ldC9DUFMwWgYD VR0fBFMwUTBPoE2gS4ZJaHR0cDovL2NybC5jb21vZG9jYS5jb20vQ09NT0RPUlNBQ2xpZW50QXV0 aGVudGljYXRpb25hbmRTZWN1cmVFbWFpbENBLmNybDCBiwYIKwYBBQUHAQEEfzB9MFUGCCsGAQUF BzAChklodHRwOi8vY3J0LmNvbW9kb2NhLmNvbS9DT01PRE9SU0FDbGllbnRBdXRoZW50aWNhdGlv bmFuZFNlY3VyZUVtYWlsQ0EuY3J0MCQGCCsGAQUFBzABhhhodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5jb21vZG9jYS5j b20wIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWbmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOCAQEA BIxWW2q/3yo0LKukWAfdmXRrgvtic2IkibfmTf5LV8UAn+LlczTRE10vTS/O1E3an2Gz3YgH2wQg ynsqFj/XdhfWCGG0crNUM+y7cXbawjb+7O7L+pD/S43n0zDJl3norJ27UOLMXy2s4VJnTRLFBc+/ 8ivptPVcpAKzdxv1jgBRYRJKgBTF8/IzzQiFIcuME8LsQrUsOyPKN44F2B3RUivBUwlWPAPDQLcC 9b6QIKl6Z22eiKgEv3DVRj+N0UQMrz3SLZyClOWTY6KprEl1jDIVmMj35aQ845g38v/u9fKKehnO EvwwqNeAwfW2RcguPbWFsxqKRWuIfLQ2ZmAVQTGCA8owggPGAgEBMIGtMIGXMQswCQYDVQQGEwJH QjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQK ExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDE9MDsGA1UEAxM0Q09NT0RPIFJTQSBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGlj YXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQQIRAK+p+N+7ybIsAFAlRM4kboYwDQYJYIZIAWUDBAIB BQCgggHtMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTE4MTAwODE2 MjAwNVowLwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMSIEIDORw3cpYhYy51Vt2/GEkUwxfHlhpmeKIc7Up6pirswPMIG+ BgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxgbAwga0wgZcxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNo ZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMT0wOwYD VQQDEzRDT01PRE8gUlNBIENsaWVudCBBdXRoZW50aWNhdGlvbiBhbmQgU2VjdXJlIEVtYWlsIENB AhEAr6n437vJsiwAUCVEziRuhjCBwAYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgbCgga0wgZcxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdC MRswGQYDVQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoT EUNPTU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMT0wOwYDVQQDEzRDT01PRE8gUlNBIENsaWVudCBBdXRoZW50aWNh dGlvbiBhbmQgU2VjdXJlIEVtYWlsIENBAhEAr6n437vJsiwAUCVEziRuhjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AASCAQCtwFyV5Ha6t2JSxeChBYTbgAgjXmlJSJ/v6xrORRmcRRIGTsf0uYdZWAHbvf5TbDwx0dAZ tMX7vIPi9KwB6C+fxuxw7wGnQqEzZe7/5jvys79Xi29yF1T/unQAzEAltou9OUtd1ZG1qgzjvX0M JRwAFsDwyq/mRydrAr1p7tpMEAYG4FiFfEi7+lnueIK8BY+5g6XUaqyRCQCT6PMjokAnC2Trla1d RMsazi0G6PGpE5Fx37Rr/nonjOH/pzeEH3sGgpaI2XRBQnEpbLzFMjfM4/mV5CGUPqfC4f+0WLd6 4juPnwNKn26pzm672vY8k3RhZQDx4uRpqZhmpgwygVaxAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-E528C9B9-EB18-45B2-9A46-5064A74F167F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 18:17:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDDA10C6F1A for ; 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Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:08:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 22:07:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: make kernel error To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:08:37 -0000 I am trying to update an 11.1 to 11.2 using source. I am getting the following error during 'make kernel' (never had that error in 20180315 when I successfully compiled the kernel) so I am asking for clues on how to overcome this. ===> bge (all) machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/miibus_if.m -h awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/miidevs2h.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/miidevs awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h clang -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE-11.x/opt_global.h -I. -I/usr/src/sys -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE-11.x -MD -MF.depend.if_bge.o -MTif_bge.o -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -D__printf__=__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-empty-body -Wno-error-parentheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function -Wno-error-pointer-sign -Wno-error-shift-negative-value -Wno-error-address-of-packed-member -mno-aes -mno-avx -std=iso9899:1999 -c /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c -o if_bge.o ld -d -warn-common -r -d -o if_bge.ko if_bge.o :> export_syms awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_bge.ko export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy % if_bge.ko objcopy --strip-debug if_bge.ko ===> bhnd (all) machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include sh /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/tools/nvram_map_gen.sh /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/nvram/nvram_map -h *** Error code 2 Stop. make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/bhnd *** Error code 1 -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 19:50:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ACD10C9A74 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF097A6C2 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DDFFC10C9A71; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B716A10C9A70 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com (mail-wr1-x42b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A94C7A677 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id a13-v6so22089707wrt.5 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:50:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TJvq2wzh1B2P5tYgLqTOhov69u8573D/ePASpU+2QJE=; b=C8WTv9qGyBOgsXnXrNdshMH0Wncv0WcMOFOYQPcCmTYFr+GmLT55Ckkq5uThCU4pLw NnsIoXCptg8h01dqhpOs+JAb/EvMn6tmrPy1qscw0jgG/k+bZLz8kdF6MpNyniyOMv2F sIsniQq+JaIFzgMUqQsHKqST6kdvvkC+iWbZ4KZ/hh9IxmA69Gcd7u6oy+ucVtVT+4f2 F2EpovJqDFgkP1NalNR6utnFtvOojNPgcyifctbuI7Wok7FOCwWVKrV6t837p+49bbMl WrbZ9Ayb6wUZzXROleTjlN+5m+mcFkpjz1PNn952HVNF1LOoSIyyqrJ4YeTHV+AJZKhN bqmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=TJvq2wzh1B2P5tYgLqTOhov69u8573D/ePASpU+2QJE=; b=KkjDeFpt8UvwJxz5BWzSnkwhs1vGaYG5Oy6hM5qtWxjib3lNirSOkI8IxDuRuhX2UQ CJDBcpBY+gcxQv0bJxXUu3NkrPk2wvwAHcXlJsb6ja9JKJ4BdBkW96RpqIPfy0igZpR9 0bhUJyh9b/IDqurTu3VA+DvrS4wa3HqcYT9HGcFaGRKbh8HKCWskcCM8Dphpau7SMGrX eLUp+2LRA/vn4ERcKmxbQz3kQFr9LBRANLKrPmko8FpgRWz3nJAXK6V4Ryq4RvMD5UPS tx3SBDSwHgsd4UeJwbV4fOffd317aIunuwBKtHb4pqeFedJbgu/gjUN4J0Fv/ww2ypPb nSsg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohxgOhIAPwFNF4Tzgt+o98NYDv4UGSgqgkK/cZquQb98sWzML3U seynII6r4hs5n7VZNETjjRWaJ8jIFxZlVwKciwfQG1VTxpP4Ww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60ySMjM6kS7j+8aAChHwDF0xYOy2asvYzMO1vlqpNnfpyOcAdqrxKs6/eWBrshGQc+30/8tLDObeb3RjcJbi68= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f5c6:: with SMTP id k6-v6mr17634133wrp.59.1539028234693; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:50:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 22:49:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: make kernel error To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:50:39 -0000 SOLVED: I ran the command manually: sh /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/tools/nvram_map_gen.sh /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/nvram/nvram_map -h and then did a successful make kernel and I don't know why! On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 22:07, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I am trying to update an 11.1 to 11.2 using source. > I am getting the following error during 'make kernel' (never had that > error in 20180315 when I successfully compiled the kernel) so I am asking > for clues on how to overcome this. > > ===> bge (all) > machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include > x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include > awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/miibus_if.m > -h > awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/miidevs2h.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/miidevs > awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/kern/device_if.m -h > awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/kern/bus_if.m -h > awk -f /usr/src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /usr/src/sys/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h > clang -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE > -nostdinc -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE-11.x/opt_global.h -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE-11.x -MD -MF.depend.if_bge.o -MTif_bge.o > -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector > -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef > -Wno-pointer-sign -D__printf__=__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs > -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas > -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-empty-body > -Wno-error-parentheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function > -Wno-error-pointer-sign -Wno-error-shift-negative-value > -Wno-error-address-of-packed-member -mno-aes -mno-avx -std=iso9899:1999 > -c /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c -o if_bge.o > ld -d -warn-common -r -d -o if_bge.ko if_bge.o > :> export_syms > awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_bge.ko export_syms | xargs -J% > objcopy % if_bge.ko > objcopy --strip-debug if_bge.ko > ===> bhnd (all) > machine -> /usr/src/sys/amd64/include > x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include > sh /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/tools/nvram_map_gen.sh > /usr/src/sys/dev/bhnd/nvram/nvram_map -h > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/bhnd > *** Error code 1 > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > "Oh, the cruft." > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 21:02:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E6610CB4FC; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 21:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward104j.mail.yandex.net (forward104j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DAF87D272; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 21:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback12g.mail.yandex.net (mxback12g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:91]) by forward104j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 987A541CD9; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 00:01:18 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (smtp1p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:6]) by mxback12g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id hplfwsPQ2D-1IgSrv6x; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 00:01:18 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539032478; bh=PgQFt5AWpvRxcev8k01xcf5LUrQHhljsjUoS+kX8kQM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NAOIAXazNQyfTXH534ZYYJGx4eczIJtZmJTOTqYRzOwrl59O07hWrs9kaiX7ItUpM 2KIVI7tYmy00Ene6qQ9c/UGbuE0YZUL+6Ht7A4v9JXEETasZOxQnRf/xq3EyocKCVG OOEtH+xboDLn4qb4eQO8wwKR3q5D1KJ61Zd3Fq3I= Received: by smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Ucz6wPNY68-1GJqRHS0; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 00:01:17 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539032477; bh=PgQFt5AWpvRxcev8k01xcf5LUrQHhljsjUoS+kX8kQM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ABFBd2A7TlzJ2M7s0csLsZuh0ujzyrH0Tg7XoDMptNl4LsqnXqtLeyhHZXNl6fzQl AO1supZO5/i5RlF+S6Bx2vI+69Y6kLDbtDk2/ge80BTrJXqEuMxjtS9abYL4GmXNd4 /ZXkd6q7Z3BIUtTvN8JfNTV63L2H0+tddXpMATb8= Authentication-Results: smtp1p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) To: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hackers References: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:30:10 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 21:02:22 -0000 On 10/08/18 03:10, Polytropon wrote: > I'm crossposting to the freebsd-hackers@ list, hope that's okay. > Replies from that list please keep me CC'd as I'm not subscribed > to that list. Thanks in advance! > > I have a strange and unique problem to solve and would like to > ask for pointers into the right direction (or at least pointers > into wrong directions _not_ to take). > > My IBM Thinkpad 755C died. In fact, the very special PSU exploded. > It provided special voltages (10V=, 20V=) on a special plug (4-pin > semi-rectangular). Its special disk can't be placed into a comparable > laptop as it's not a regular 2.5" unit - it's a little bit taller > and therefore won't fit the usual (P)ATA 2.5" disk bays. There is > some special software on that disk that I need to use from time > to time, and there is no way to use a modern laptop (too fast, > missing required connectors and drives, as well as low-level > control over those resources). The software I have to use is > very special and cannot be replaced by anything else. > > I can access (P)ATA laptop disks fine with FreeBSD and a USB > disk adapter, so reading disk content and copying it to somewhere > else is not a problem. > > I plan to dedicate a Fujitsu-Siemens Litebook LFL-G (500 MHz AMD > CPU, 128 MB RAM) as a replacement. It will also obtain the functions > formerly provided by a Toshiba T-2130CT laptop whose disk drive, > power supply, battery, case etc. died. But the disk is still there. > The Litebook will get a hard disk of 10 GB (or less, if I still > have one) partitioned as follows: > > 1st slice: 100 MB MS-DOS 5.0 from the Toshiba T-2130CT > > 2nd slice: 500 MB MS-DOS 6.22 + NDOS from a different DOS system > > 3rd slice: 1000 MB "Windows '95" + NDOS hybrid that was on the > IBM disk in the Thinkpad 755C > > 4th slice: remaining space: "Windows '98" as it came with that > laptop (original CD and license key present) > > The intended use of "slice" indicates that there will be 4 "DOS > primary partitions" on the disk. Staying with the "drive letters" > from DOS, every OS should see the partition it booted from as C:, > and it would be great if it didn't touch (or maybe even didn't > recognize) any of the other partitions. > > I think I could even use a 500 MB disk and strip everything down > to 50 + 100 + 150 + 200 MB as per the layout shown above! That > would also be fully sufficient for the special purposes. > > What I'm asking for _now_ is a convenient way to select which OS > to boot. I would not want to use today's GRUB because I don't plan > to use Linux on that particular system. In my opinion, the FreeBSD > boot manager will work nicely, but it will list all 4 systems with > the name "DOS". From what I learned by reading its source, this is > due to auto detection. I don't need that feature, I'd think about > altering the code in order to hard-code 4 names, like this: > > F1 DOS 5 > F2 DOS 6 > F3 Win 95 > F4 Win 98 > > Default: F1 > > So if I needed to boot the system that formerly ran on the Thinkpad > 755C, I'd press F3 and it would boot. Sure, I understand that there > is a good chance that I have to reconfigure drivers and such (as > it's a typical thing with "Windows"), but that won't be the big > problem. > > I know everything has to fit 512 bytes (and the code of the boot > manager illustrates this requirement very nicely by how the text > for the possible boot options is stored and selected). > > Questions: > > Would you say this is a possible way to go? Or would you suggest > that I refresh my assembly knowledge and write something myself, > maybe using the existing FreeBSD boot manager as inspiration and > organ donor? ;-) > > Or maybe there is something that can be installed and initially > configured from DOS? > > Distant past... I know there _were_ multi-boot utilities decades > ago, but I cannot remember any names. There is no luxury required, > no GUI, no boot graphics - just a simple means to select the OS > that should be booted. > > Oh, or maybe there is a long-forgotten functionality in the newer > "Windows" versions ('95 and '98 will be finally installed, but > none of then will ever see the Internet, of course), those also > once contained some kind of strange boot manager? > > If everything fails, I could still try to use the FreeBSD boot > manager "as is", with the following result predicted: > > F1 DOS > F2 DOS > F3 DOS > F4 DOS > > Default: F1 > > I'm not sure if it will recognize old-fashioned "Windows '95" > as "DOS" or "Windows"... > > > > Thank you for any inspiration! :-) > > > Poly, I suggest a better way than to use FreeBSD/Linux boot manager. Create 1 primary partition + an EBR with 4 logical drives (with the primary partition at the beginning of the disk). Install 4 x DOS/Win into the logical drives (all using the first primary partition as C:) Finally and if needed, alter the boot.ini in C: as you wish. Does that solve your problem, or compound it ? Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 06:44:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEFA10C1DDB; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 06:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6002A7878A; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 06:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w996iORg042757 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:44:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w996iJXU042752; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:44:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:44:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manish Jain cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) In-Reply-To: <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> Message-ID: References: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 06:44:27 -0000 > > I suggest a better way than to use FreeBSD/Linux boot manager. > > Create 1 primary partition + an EBR with 4 logical drives (with the primary > partition at the beginning of the disk). > > Install 4 x DOS/Win into the logical drives (all using the first primary > partition as C:) > > Finally and if needed, alter the boot.ini in C: as you wish. > > Does that solve your problem, or compound it ? what is boot.ini? i don't remember something like this in DOS. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 14:19:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E74F10AB3DB for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49CCF8AF2D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w99EJIDk037428 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:19:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: OT: Cyrus IMAP's mailing lists Message-ID: <40502983-5ca6-0ae2-5594-4f83d6ad607d@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:19:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:19:35 -0000 Hello. As a long time Cyrus IMAP's user (having several installations all on FreeBSD, to try not to be too OT :), I used to be subscribed to their mailing lists. Since a long time I don't receive any message anymore; I tried subscribing again in several ways, to no avail. The project looks active, however. Does anyone know what happened to them? Are they still working for you? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 16:02:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2501A10B2073 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward106j.mail.yandex.net (forward106j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0EB270178 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback20j.mail.yandex.net (mxback20j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::114]) by forward106j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E2D231807694; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:01:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4j.mail.yandex.net (smtp4j.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1619::15:6]) by mxback20j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id xWQMCGbMik-1nmKJgsQ; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:01:49 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539100909; bh=YuRr2j8MatXQNXYe7taqNfw6u1VIQnFYNvyaDeGw5Ig=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Mk7EyO51N0fL2IbUZX/RD0EN8U+G42T8u+m+gmMeikilYLyCfN4bQ4dwr1hbnz6Dt 9eG5pXzmeWaEZbnFnBSQwAiTEmr/iLP2jUXKLvbdPCI9XwbsiKf3iBSWuqJHz48dYO IKL/k/0Ne3YcOrjDdB7kinF0L0iMxW1yb3HKCTmY= Received: by smtp4j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Ki00IGETaN-1lIWMD3x; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:01:48 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539100908; bh=YuRr2j8MatXQNXYe7taqNfw6u1VIQnFYNvyaDeGw5Ig=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=UGk2rvXX11q5WteMlwoXD4wTmVqsGl6IyPcL/efyq1WKtMc8CQYhNaTalHcLxnVW3 vUM3WnACpSFJiF88Tv5SSZRMMGk82Wj7VQ4zJSpcxBh8O/QisohHSpvL9r6yJB2ZJ5 IpRtMkXBiO1PgKMJZ4xdBo/naLQWtQa3qxrt9WF0= Authentication-Results: smtp4j.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) To: Wojciech Puchar Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions References: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <742396b8-e662-ed00-142a-0f2765674207@yandex.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 21:30:41 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 16:02:07 -0000 On 10/09/18 12:14, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I suggest a better way than to use FreeBSD/Linux boot manager. >> >> Create 1 primary partition + an EBR with 4 logical drives (with the >> primary partition at the beginning of the disk). >> >> Install 4 x DOS/Win into the logical drives (all using the first >> primary partition as C:) >> >> Finally and if needed, alter the boot.ini in C: as you wish. >> >> Does that solve your problem, or compound it ? > > what is boot.ini? i don't remember something like this in DOS. I would have thought C:boot.ini was the standard bootloader configuration file in DOS/Windows - it is, of course, standard in Windows. Since Windows 98 would getting installed last, its boot manager should configure the boot environment correctly. Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 16:02:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6E810B20B3 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward103p.mail.yandex.net (forward103p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 118E7701D4 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback2g.mail.yandex.net (mxback2g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:163]) by forward103p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DBAE12187181; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:02:17 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (smtp2o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::26]) by mxback2g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id j9oXp3DMVX-2HPK5iff; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:02:17 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539100937; bh=E98ov5Rm3tO1eah3JCc2kr12MyWomAZuuLJeX36WleM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=N0Za/nGfOYGDcM1dHN8Z6ZMOVyrjH4dyT2W6SfJ2vqFspWJyPYPxU5HW0LJZk1SZC j+5WCJDjBV2dHEJLFWWSwU9jjQyQMxd4tDazR/AJDbEyOc29DR6gr+7Igjn6jsdj++ DmNJVC0RKd91pjRjrpQAZ1rGltEQwXpFjI9EVnZM= Received: by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ag8dWjzDKR-2GsOXYeh; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:02:16 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539100937; bh=E98ov5Rm3tO1eah3JCc2kr12MyWomAZuuLJeX36WleM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=N0Za/nGfOYGDcM1dHN8Z6ZMOVyrjH4dyT2W6SfJ2vqFspWJyPYPxU5HW0LJZk1SZC j+5WCJDjBV2dHEJLFWWSwU9jjQyQMxd4tDazR/AJDbEyOc29DR6gr+7Igjn6jsdj++ DmNJVC0RKd91pjRjrpQAZ1rGltEQwXpFjI9EVnZM= Authentication-Results: smtp2o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) To: Wojciech Puchar Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions References: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <2f6c261c-e3cf-d24f-eaf5-78aba58d50a3@yandex.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 21:31:09 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 16:02:30 -0000 On 10/09/18 12:14, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I suggest a better way than to use FreeBSD/Linux boot manager. >> >> Create 1 primary partition + an EBR with 4 logical drives (with the >> primary partition at the beginning of the disk). >> >> Install 4 x DOS/Win into the logical drives (all using the first >> primary partition as C:) >> >> Finally and if needed, alter the boot.ini in C: as you wish. >> >> Does that solve your problem, or compound it ? > > what is boot.ini? i don't remember something like this in DOS. I would have thought C:\\boot.ini was the standard bootloader configuration file in DOS/Windows - it is, of course, standard in Windows. Since Windows 98 would getting installed last, its boot manager should configure the boot environment correctly. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:19:47 -0000 Dear Ladies and Gentleman, i am using the 10.2 Freebsd version, which I freshly installed on a virtual machine. But when i try to update i get the following error message (screenshot attached). My intention would be to fix that error and work with the 10.2 version to install the xorg. Although i know, that there are more later versions available. Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and to work around that error attached? I am looking forward for some answer. Best regards, Matthias -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 20:25:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA0410BB2A3 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F527B122 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8BB9C10BB2A2; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A70D10BB2A0 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CA3F7B120 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from pmbp.fritz.box (p5496EFF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.239.249]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3035543C14A8; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Package installation under Freebsd Release 10.2 From: Philipp Vlassakakis In-Reply-To: <03881987-bb56-3aed-da4e-0187f0a4e340@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:25:18 +0200 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6CB976B9-F2F8-458C-B42A-B4ED6AD70432@lists.vlassakakis.de> References: <03881987-bb56-3aed-da4e-0187f0a4e340@gmx.de> To: Matthias Suess X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:25:29 -0000 Hi Matthias, the mailinglist does not support attachments. Could you please copy and paste the entire error message? Regards, Philipp > On 9. Oct 2018, at 22:19, Matthias Suess wrote: >=20 > Dear Ladies and Gentleman, >=20 > i am using the 10.2 Freebsd version, which I freshly installed on a > virtual machine. >=20 > But when i try to update i get the following error message (screenshot > attached). >=20 > My intention would be to fix that error and work with the 10.2 version > to install the xorg. Although i know, that there are more later = versions > available. >=20 > Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and = to > work around that error attached? >=20 > I am looking forward for some answer. >=20 > Best regards, > Matthias >=20 > --=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 20:32:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A4110BB78D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suessmat@gmx.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2940E7B6E0 for ; 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Do you want to fetch and install it now? [y/N]:y/N Bootstrapping pkg from pkg+httpd://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:amd64/quarterly please wait Verifying signature with trusted certificate pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301... done Installing pkg-1.10.5_3... Newer FreeBSD version for package pkg: To ignore this error set IGNORE_OSVERSION=yes - package: 1004000 - running kernel: 1002000 Allow missmatch now?[Y/n]: n Am 09.10.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Philipp Vlassakakis: > Hi Matthias, > > the mailinglist does not support attachments. > Could you please copy and paste the entire error message? > > Regards, > Philipp > >> On 9. Oct 2018, at 22:19, Matthias Suess wrote: >> >> Dear Ladies and Gentleman, >> >> i am using the 10.2 Freebsd version, which I freshly installed on a >> virtual machine. >> >> But when i try to update i get the following error message (screenshot >> attached). >> >> My intention would be to fix that error and work with the 10.2 version >> to install the xorg. Although i know, that there are more later versions >> available. >> >> Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and to >> work around that error attached? >> >> I am looking forward for some answer. >> >> Best regards, >> Matthias >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 20:33:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AA710BB7C8 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E69E17B6F0 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from pmbp.fritz.box (p5496EFF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.239.249]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BD5043C14A8 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:32:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Vlassakakis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.1: chroot users / provide pre-built binaries Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:32:59 +0200 References: <20180628070515.3591314b.freebsd@edvax.de> <6aec1872-509a-5807-23fe-cc22089d58eb@yandex.com> <44a7reagqj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <44a7reagqj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Message-Id: <11DB717D-54C1-4EA0-B2EE-128900AC177A@lists.vlassakakis.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:33:01 -0000 Hi everyone, just FYI and for documentation purposes. Another =E2=80=9Csolution" would be to use scponly = (https://www.freshports.org/shells/scponly/), but it=E2=80=99s = unmaintained for a couple of years.=20 Regards, Philipp > On 28. Jun 2018, at 20:49, Lowell Gilbert = wrote: >=20 > Oleg Cherkasov > writes: >=20 >> On 28. juni 2018 07:05, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:45:02 +0200, Philipp Vlassakakis wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On the one hand I want to save space, so that the binairies >>>> don't have to be in every $HOME, >>>> on the other hand the work is reduced if a binary needs to be >>>> updated. >>>=20 >>> If you want a set of "whitelisted binaries", i. e., a fixed >>> and defined set of binaries a user can call interactively, >>> you'll still be facing the problem mentioned above: The shell. >>> If you allow interactive logins, it's more or less GAME OVER >>> as the shell sadly has too much power. Sure, creating a >>> directory like /secbin (secure binaries), making copies of >>> the binaries you explicitely want to allow, and only have >>> PATH=3D/secbin could be a starting point, but as mentioned >>> above, this won't work. >>>=20 >>> The easiest way to prevent execution of any (!) programs is >>> to disallow interactive access. Tools like scp and sftp will >>> still work, but ssh won't. Setting $SHELL to /sbin/nologin >>> or /does/not/exist in /etc/passwd for those users will >>> prevent the use of ssh (without completely deactivating it >>> for the whole system), and still allow scp uploads. >>>=20 >>> But changing $PATH isn't sufficient. If the user has access >>> to /bin, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, he can manually call >>> binaries from there (via full path). This is where chroot >>> can help. >>=20 >> Bash has RESTRICTED SHELL mode with -r option or may be soft linked = as >> rbash to run in restricted mode. Check man bash and search for >> RESTRICTED SHELL for more details. >=20 > Like other restricted shells, bash's restricted mode is very fragile. > You should never trust that sort of configuration to keep you safe = when > an actively hostile attacker might gain access. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions = > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org = " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 22:12:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E712C10BF5E6 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6319981278 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mf0yy-1fUuv73YPS-00gZzO; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:59:12 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mf0yy-1fUuv73YPS-00gZzO; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:59:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:59:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) Message-Id: <20181009235911.65befcb2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <742396b8-e662-ed00-142a-0f2765674207@yandex.com> References: <20181007234040.028639f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <38342ce8-990a-ce05-7ab9-9f7d6017f91b@yandex.com> <742396b8-e662-ed00-142a-0f2765674207@yandex.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ABCyBKFZu2lWWayFo/7b8axwQjRsUKzsQqhq0+uwSq21OC5omib WVUVdBA+yDnBXWda1EniuudoN0b6brvenUNRmgpYziyCk/K24Z+pGh1D5DSbbJZx8wsOHuB pQ2iavLvUtMAOOY+lFhZ8CLwbkbQMofe17pUfsfV65BvXD3Murr2XfnAwfoRrFdtLSk2wmD tJ0IrkXm7lqYwcEOPjamQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fZ92W+/W250=:Wk349DFdfEZf9/uMK0Tu6m VCno1l9fAFPj0MMKvr2Fv5AdwOqoLpna5YmpUJ/ApPE9ucc5OVmpcrfRv/MPRRsaGl3lH+qdL 09gszpBcoS0jBGhMmljm4t+bfpQ7wMYZKv92zrAE1wmNIQ9uX5WqzF6iZP9JzlximdY1Gr2eI oo7+ApkctNOQRrIl1ZIFVJnEqUAmSjDgYjZDzTzlW3PFYLpTALBsTWWlapv6G+/ji80LKX3DQ Cm33E1o06I2yjRQ+X4uYSyZgGxpsN7huN/Ap/kUKaNZy+sM1zh+tRVp7AaKt64P7TiCQ2Sj77 Xkljlt4KthDM+GR4ByyyKciHYeG+s/UqmJj26/4EvmcnDjJnapN+Mtq/4WdTRvCnGP0l0vslo HttD1qF2JZR07bqn74e7BDXE2UuJAi304xejDzarc2g155XSZY2J4WMjscx/0TqNpsQ7LoX8g F7H85jX9DGfXE9gr0YIlTLjrd99TVP/gv1cXoaHAu+CLaXn50LXi/3n35QKKN2dD/Hm+RcJRz 9CDUAc34zXoLKvylZmMHTJBilxyaAR/g6U7joOdmPxznUmZc2osaz3ZfgMr+FDJWJNeHMxoWL mtSa9bMR9dnQ7zr4Ex/8Oh3xPm13wFJp2EwxB81r4L+lqEXEzifVSLKmcyUSBIpo107gBYxSk CfM3MSgIp/b/sqm7CQqJQklXUBPljJUaH0af1I/T/63Gw66RrJ0nsPUwblFR0NU6aokTjH6CV Qw2WuKTDsZOkMyf4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 22:12:31 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 21:30:41 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > On 10/09/18 12:14, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> I suggest a better way than to use FreeBSD/Linux boot manager. > >> > >> Create 1 primary partition + an EBR with 4 logical drives (with the > >> primary partition at the beginning of the disk). > >> > >> Install 4 x DOS/Win into the logical drives (all using the first > >> primary partition as C:) > >> > >> Finally and if needed, alter the boot.ini in C: as you wish. > >> > >> Does that solve your problem, or compound it ? > > > > what is boot.ini? i don't remember something like this in DOS. > > > I would have thought C:boot.ini was the standard bootloader > configuration file in DOS/Windows - it is, of course, standard in Windows. In DOS, there is no such mechanism. It always needed some external boot manager (or at least a BIOS where you could choose a boot device, but that required individual disks to boot from). I'm not sure this facility is present in the older versions of "Windows" (pre-2000) which are going to be installed on that particular systems. I'm also unsure if it can handle DOS correctly (even though it usually can handle Linux). By the way, depending on the smallest disk I can find, it _might_ be possible that I can install Linux too, and that could be a chance to try Grub. This will make it possible to use that particular laptop for adjacent amateur radio purposes. I'm not sure if DOS will boot from a logical volume inside an extended partition, so maybe I'm going to have to rethink about the layout, maybe something like this is possible: prim. part. 1 = DOS 5.0 prim. part. 2 = DOS 6.22 prim. part. 3 = data exchange (FAT) ext. part = { log. vol. 1 = Windows '95 log. vol. 1 = Windows '98 log. vol. 1 = Linux swap log. vol. 1 = Linux ext2 } With Grub, setting "boot paths" to the five systems installed should be no problem. At least this was possible in much older versions of Grub (I used that to boot DOS or OS/2 or Linux in the past) - no idea if it still works... > Since Windows 98 would getting installed last, its boot manager should > configure the boot environment correctly. That's highly questionable, given the "urge" of destroying existing MBR data that "Windows" usually seems to feel. The common instructions of building multi-boot environments therefore often include the advice to install "Windows" first, and end with the OS that will install the boot manager, or if that's not possible, re-install (!) the boot manager after "Windows" has been installed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 9 23:05:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE78110C0EC0 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D58C83270 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2E32910C0EBF; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E666510C0EBE for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0F58326F for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8B5AB9890; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w99N5YM7052019; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:05:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w99N5XeS052016; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:05:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:05:33 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Matthias Suess cc: Philipp Vlassakakis , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Package installation under Freebsd Release 10.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <03881987-bb56-3aed-da4e-0187f0a4e340@gmx.de> <6CB976B9-F2F8-458C-B42A-B4ED6AD70432@lists.vlassakakis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:05:34 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:05:37 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, Matthias Suess wrote: > For sure: > > root@free1:~# pkg update > The package management tool is not yet installed on your system. > Do you want to fetch and install it now? [y/N]:y/N > Bootstrapping pkg from > pkg+httpd://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:amd64/quarterly please wait > Verifying signature with trusted certificate > pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301... done > Installing pkg-1.10.5_3... > Newer FreeBSD version for package pkg: > To ignore this error set IGNORE_OSVERSION=yes > - package: 1004000 > - running kernel: 1002000 > Allow missmatch now?[Y/n]: n > > Am 09.10.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Philipp Vlassakakis: >> Hi Matthias, >> >> the mailinglist does not support attachments. >> Could you please copy and paste the entire error message? >> >> Regards, >> Philipp >> >>> On 9. Oct 2018, at 22:19, Matthias Suess wrote: >>> >>> Dear Ladies and Gentleman, >>> >>> i am using the 10.2 Freebsd version, which I freshly installed on a >>> virtual machine. >>> >>> But when i try to update i get the following error message (screenshot >>> attached). >>> >>> My intention would be to fix that error and work with the 10.2 version >>> to install the xorg. Although i know, that there are more later versions >>> available. >>> >>> Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and to >>> work around that error attached? >>> >>> I am looking forward for some answer. I believe the question relates to the new EOL policy which says: _______________ Each release is supported by the Security Officer for a limited time only. The designation and expected lifetime of all currently supported branches and their respective releases are given below. The Expected EoL (end-of-life) column indicates the earliest date on which support for that branch or release will end. Please note that these dates may be pushed back if circumstances warrant it. Older releases are not supported and users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to one of these supported releases: Branch Release Type Release Date Expected EoL stable/10 n/a n/a n/a October 31, 2018 releng/10.4 10.4-RELEASE Normal October 3, 2017 October 31, 2018 stable/11 n/a n/a n/a September 30, 2021 releng/11.2 11.2-RELEASE n/a June 28, 2018 11.3-RELEASE + 3 months ---------------- See the handbook for the full wording. This is related (in whole or part?) to the policy that the ports tree is now base on version and not release. I assumed that means ports will [should] work with any release in the same version. I can find nothing about setting IGNORE_OSVERSION in the handbook or in the pkg man page. It is not in 10.3, 11.1 or 11.2 UPDATING. I have updated a webserver running 11.1, php7, mysql56 and apache24 just replying 'y' to this message. I also would love to hear from someone who knows anything about the when and why of this. Because I use a FreeBSD workspace I will be build a set of things I used to install, e.g., mozilla. 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Although i know, that there are more later > versions available. > > Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and > to work around that error attached? > just do not do this. If you are using an older version, you will not be able to distinguish between real warnings or just warnings related to your outdated version. As 12 is not ready yet, you could use 10.4 until the end of the month or use the latest 11 version. 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[image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 11:11:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B96410D01C4 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D1EC7AD14 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) X-Originating-IP: 182.58.191.157 Received: from v520.kathe.in (unknown [182.58.191.157]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91FD11C0009 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end Message-ID: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:11:41 -0000 okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal mailing system under freebsd 11.2. i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the fond memories of "MH". but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH based mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been unable to locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different name like heirloom or something? could someone please help me understand the nitty-grities of getting a personal mail system setup under freebsd? thanks, ~mayuresh ps1: don't know anything about networking or sendmail. ps2: writing this email via mutt under debian. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 15:50:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B6010B4D9B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78E4B86240 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB5A11DC9; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:49:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vkqMD_krdJHq; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73C8711DBA; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42cd9874f66f71befb7501f047a92c8f.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:49:54 -0400 Subject: Re: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Mayuresh Kathe" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:50:08 -0000 On Wed, October 10, 2018 07:11, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a > MH based mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i > have been unable to locate a package for MH, is it listed under > a different name like heirloom or something? > pkg search nmh nmh-1.7.1 Cleaned up MH mailer suite -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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OK, i think i understand many thanks for your time on that! Am 10.10.2018 um 05:08 schrieb Erich Dollansky: > Hi, > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:19:34 +0200 > Matthias Suess wrote: > >> Dear Ladies and Gentleman, >> >> i am using the 10.2 Freebsd version, which I freshly installed on a >> virtual machine. >> >> But when i try to update i get the following error message (screenshot >> attached). >> >> My intention would be to fix that error and work with the 10.2 version >> to install the xorg. Although i know, that there are more later >> versions available. >> >> Is there a procedure to use binary packages with the 10.2 version and >> to work around that error attached? >> > just do not do this. If you are using an older version, you will not be > able to distinguish between real warnings or just warnings related to > your outdated version. As 12 is not ready yet, you could use 10.4 until > the end of the month or use the latest 11 version. > > Erich > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 18:50:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7152610B8CC4 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.haidagwaii.net (mail.haidagwaii.net [23.235.65.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163118C775 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from 254-68-235-23.haidagwaii.net ([23.235.68.254] helo=[192.168.1.8]) by mail.haidagwaii.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1gAJYp-000FCU-8q; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:50:19 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Pazarena Subject: libssl & libcrypto Message-ID: <9beb03cf-aa3c-423c-a223-951f9ffda54f@paz.bz> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:50:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (54) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:50:29 -0000 what is the correct way to upgrade these two libraries ? I created a web of issues when I attempted to upgrade my apache on a 10.3 server . perl was outdated , ssl outdated . I managed to get apache up and running except for ssl/crypto . I am almost ready to swing to an 11.2 replacement ... but not quite . Is there an easy way to re-compile and reinstall these ? -- Jim Pazarena fquest@paz.bz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 22:21:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D86310BE53B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E7C974652 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue001 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LkGC3-1fYoz81Et9-00cONX; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:21:49 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue001 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LkGC3-1fYoz81Et9-00cONX; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:21:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:21:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mayuresh Kathe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end Message-Id: <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> References: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9mLrJEhu/1giqeJBPhuar3XwVtbwo0d3vqDsJ/WvYIG/UaeviCk twKEJutkMxuUczNuaXKiRtVBKSXgYO9jXPoRUc59N+xCbdb5qWFlUychyU3K5VdiHy7xk0D BJ4aECU3EGOUHhKbDq1cGl3eI6yz4EDOKBZ/6LkBAa/7Y5FaoG+HNFt1LoZHzfQhA+Bticc 8LQgFqQEW8uLtCxEJX8jA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CkqXzHXgcc4=:AlCDl/d9hx0fkqZJmSqPgE F0GYENkfiYEoyjDQiPRZqg8VGHjgVdT2rzr4jpsIAAG9qp9cgMQLFwCm4HZkD/IWkV1Q4cby2 s+8ZyS3BfXgYKwxmrQfM2xh0jU5/CgCnq8srEtXNU5moprxfMNO2XiAFbEVaQq/UpA5u37Enb FIgayrEKEXM44uwg5vgfNCd7V0D+1RO+Z000W7ZyLc7HPVe7uCQjs8m1Mc4sFlLksFu+oiZyl YvWEIsYH0K8zJtkCodOb4JNoh33Dghds9Jp1wzeqpthNaLsQUrLhhUfXVTCJLzEpccA/xCyrd IyWH5vCcYq/pdqGhWG53+srG8Xqsn/u030lciDJtJCIJQ0UbxzPRBag3PN/gIMlRRpARrT4Q/ J7PJ740PAKdK05f4LCZN11q2lFgvQRsuaIpe0poIcpKvZt8PcLON2AuJuFMQDQJtaQGb1Mfhu MZcPZAuJFmpTf/K4IKZbk+LTYBYNPCOFM0O4Y9AWzpAFldTB61JBdOvnppa4ur6i2WwxDYpjV Q5s6Q4TsoJ3XQaElOk+96P2HqBP87prC17gmuR+RFbkAQ8Gc0iJF8BH/PBLlKluYMIFa/Csfg 2+i3Y2OcBZy3f1Kl/Mpelb2GalbStF1GJhKr87UiWtZCZtf1WfClRUyviqgH6rU0Jl9dSE4SE TN+bvRD0QqjtCqrhb7l5C27YJfXmTJt+mc1jDUIIXdxxuYmyHT5r1XPAnpXP7t+m9l0aGJpaw qs4c3YCCtjScjPha X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:21:58 -0000 On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal mailing > system under freebsd 11.2. > > i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the fond > memories of "MH". > > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH based > mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been unable to > locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different name like > heirloom or something? MH is just a way of storing mail messages and mailboxes. It's an alternative to classic mbox, and the conceptual origin of MailDir (often considered today's standard). MH mail storage, just like mbox, can be utilized on the server as well as on the client. For example, my MUA Sylpheed uses MH for locally storing messages, while the mail subsystem (sendmail) on my home PC uses mbox. As you can see, they can co-exist. It is even possible to use two different MUAs which operate on the same local mail storage, given they both use the same format. If I remember correctly, this was possible in the past with early versions of Thunderbird, in combination with mutt (or was it pine?), not sure. The big difference is this: | mbox format | MH format -------------------+---------------------+------------ one message is ... | a portion of a file | a file a mailbox is ... | a file | a directory The rules of the MH format basically apply to the MailDir format as well. As you can see, both concepts have advantages and disadvantages. > could someone please help me understand the nitty-grities of getting a > personal mail system setup under freebsd? Can you be more precise about what "mail system" should include for you? The term itself is too broad. A "mail system" could be one, several, or all of those: mail transfer agent - MTA (transmits to other servers) mail delivery agent - MDA (delivers to local boxes) mail user agent - MUA ("mail program" for the user) Basically, the following concepts can be involved: SMTP (send messages to servers or accept them) POP3 (hand over messages to MUA) IMAP (let MUA remotely manipulate messages on server) There are also additional components, such as a web interface, as a replacement for a MUA stand-alone program, or a spam filter, or a "sieve" implemented in the MDA... Note that the descriptions in parentheses are highly oversimplified, as anyone who deals with mail systems (in its broadest meaning) can tell you. ;-) As you initially mentioned "personal mailing system", do you wish to run your own server for receiving messages, or do you only want a means to get your messages from storage elsewhere, and have some specific kind of access to them? Do you think fetchmail + SHH + pine could be such a combination? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40502983-5ca6-0ae2-5594-4f83d6ad607d@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:23:56 -0000 On 10/9/18 4:19 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > As a long time Cyrus IMAP's user (having several installations all on > FreeBSD, to try not to be too OT :), I used to be subscribed to their > mailing lists. > > Since a long time I don't receive any message anymore; I tried > subscribing again in several ways, to no avail. > The project looks active, however. > > Does anyone know what happened to them? > Are they still working for you? Not sure what you mean by "Are they still working for you?" but I assume you mean the mailing list, yes, it is active and it works, not a lot of traffic but the project is still supported mostly by Fastmail. Not sure why you ar not receiving anything but it is here: List-Subscribe: , In a world where almost everyone is going gmail or 365 I think it is needed more than ever to be able to run your own mail server. Cheers, //per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 10 22:44:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B94910BEEF4 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com (mail-wm1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D769F75549 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id 193-v6so7332462wme.3 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vRO9ZwceHeUMwZLmNSthfiuhocNNdmnYxB7gbR6VPmg=; b=AvkMLZutsW6tHBxx3OT3GCbIkk/woDddYZ0dcxQsPNUqAsyuPyxmsTCdE1KMbQQF29 7YMUtrK24xdTnM1rSMUQ3Xm+bs+tSjLG8rqkl2npIEyK/syeVqjSetLzr5HFWyatDMHt agKFteD+4fPtOxmJRqzghsmZfLpRzLfV/OJBq20v5Ep8WfaS+sezjn50SjlJuEPpIOSI gV865MITUfLdcQjLzCjdwwxeNopuM4Y8Qxr/qBD4rfBmaBZvO3vLaXdv1PaFwDsWdK57 cGWrQYNJSM0FTjggVfp/aTAc9CHelBBH6k1dqPcG3dlKM1GFoLmEmA2HFM9D0114g6sS KgOw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiogIfFcCX18OyjONEhVr24IO33qGiNjIryZARCDrtIYd2k8F5F gX2B6idEAJh12vc7Kv73y4r6BwhHep8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60DmWEQCK+OR7BQSfN7gav3n09Bcf8egzZe5/l77WgngKqgFh2Glodj0s6QME3bGKaQKdJipQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:b743:: with SMTP id h64-v6mr2347002wmf.26.1539211478459; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.209.155.76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z7-v6sm5342123wrg.52.2018.10.10.15.44.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 23:44:35 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end Message-ID: <20181010234435.07d72f07@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:44:40 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:21:48 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal > > mailing system under freebsd 11.2. > > > > i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the > > fond memories of "MH". > > > > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH > > based mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been > > unable to locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different > > name like heirloom or something? > > MH is just a way of storing mail messages and mailboxes. It's > an alternative to classic mbox, and the conceptual origin of > MailDir (often considered today's standard). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MH_Message_Handling_System From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 01:47:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA3310C51A0 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc:5400:1ff:feaf:6afb]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A61C7BE82 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gAQ49-0004eY-4w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: swap to a sparse file Message-ID: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:47:07 -0000 Dear Colleagues, I've inherited a swapless FreeBSD 11.2 host with no unused disk space. I would like to add some swap to be on the safe side: in case there is a memory leak etc. On the other hand, I don't like to waste several gigabytes on a precious SSD because perhaps the system will never need this swap space anyway. The FreeBSD Handbook prescribes creating a swap file with "dd if=/dev/zero ..." which would waste the space. Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and make the swap a sparse file? Thanks in advance for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 03:52:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964F310CC557 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D5D8255E for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MxV4T-1fmKVQ1Em9-00xtW3; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:52:37 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.106.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MxV4T-1fmKVQ1Em9-00xtW3; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:52:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:52:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-Id: <20181011055236.138279b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:acfqdj1P/mz2mnqKg4G7kTHPmN2tMD+WCTMz4iOtw2NDnIf7IQC Tvv398sHgBzkQaYFCXZ2CsM/7k2SD3o91Gzg/u9VzMWYaw6emKJ+oqTk0KkucMhk1cTeST3 m9FIsK/dIvaiGm66m3HfFV9I2715M3eiKDBoxRdq2s5BDSd94raSSSwmmYvtsYoohGDjkyh qI5J6GizS9uMZtJc7B78w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5yXOlIGwzh0=:/ftEMWute2bhScfq+krZ5D 7EB0zNSSYVR1sSIMhaOjJgh6/0PIh57i0XkC2ZSRrofMsK8oPsjCMaXkoZpdlHlgGH3yDYoYj YjI91VwseN1as/vbsgTxz+veZi8SxdMGtHD1fPb2+EWn6IJWBJxjPMiav5GdphG+SdbS0g2KD VrKt4drE5EiSkjW4Sf5EsbyWGjYkkVvVU+yzGb2N7uZclJeClI0leZ1sd+1v6uJu48Vy4P1hE +P/+ZUluRPltEqpcfFcxgbokqyxTVI8cjHrBqfZpS4I7Esx8X5rubfQxaD4LLQQylA0TJLTiB petYfD9ZNfa0AsMyz4Co2qUPjidwhVITI6Q38EKD5wd6yPjmFNgfshCvjCyTMeCkIrksy/BTw mqqxgn15BxhMvmI/pt1nnMHHvTCRnjbugsgmoNY1W+okMMkyQSC8otaHCANoYHdUlnQ2cfvbs 4+fjOE54MzRIF9hZA8YaScAlKc+fnKd9o5KGkYvA6ZosfDY7p2R1XBoQdJwTX33Avn39cnjnh JbpDUpNAJFtZ8jJ1Wnz+IRMsKTw0Mg13j2zAIOTgVzC+NP9gvd+AShFzigoklkUp+yUX/JDgz 7ETNpI5xTE6K/bf6web9O8HNJHdLSi9Oo4Ae9PmuznbuoboiQesrCxhCqwcmoiwG3s7LR+HAG vYLxYDFYyL4i9PoWo/5Dk6EhqcNtchYkVKf1P6vYKltUlYfsWaJ2oXv0Qtgba0Njw+rstjmxK 5/RY3fPZHGaJmYWG X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:52:40 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I've inherited a swapless FreeBSD 11.2 host with no unused disk space. > I would like to add some swap to be on the safe side: in case there is > a memory leak etc. > > On the other hand, I don't like to waste several gigabytes on a > precious SSD because perhaps the system will never need this swap > space anyway. Exactly my thoughts. :-) > The FreeBSD Handbook prescribes creating a swap file with "dd if=/dev/zero ..." > which would waste the space. A regular file as swap space also places additional load into the virtual file system, whereas one of the key advantages of a swap _partition_ is that no file access (through a filesystem) has to take place. > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > make the swap a sparse file? I'm using a "pseudo-file" approach which hasn't shown any problems so far. I'm using dd, but no actual disk space will be allocated for the target file. That file then is used like a regular swap partition via mdconfig's virtual node facility, and also deleted. Sure, it probably isn't the ideal solution, but it works. Maybe you can use this for further inspiration? In /etc/rc.local: SWAP="/swap0" /bin/rm -f $SWAP /bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=$SWAP bs=16m seek=500 count=0 /sbin/mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f $SWAP || /bin/sh /bin/chflags nodump $SWAP /bin/rm $SWAP /sbin/swapctl -a /dev/md0 echo -n " swap" In /etc/rc.shutdown.local: /sbin/swapctl -d /dev/md0 > /dev/null 2>&1 /sbin/mdconfig -d -u 0 echo -n " swap" -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 05:41:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6B910D1DA1 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4131C86D70 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w9B5fHl8014598 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:41:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: OT: Cyrus IMAP's mailing lists To: Per olof Ljungmark , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40502983-5ca6-0ae2-5594-4f83d6ad607d@netfence.it> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:41:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:41:38 -0000 On 10/11/18 12:23 AM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Not sure what you mean by "Are they still working for you?" but I assume > you mean the mailing list, yes, it is active and it works, not a lot of > traffic but the project is still supported mostly by Fastmail. Not sure > why you ar not receiving anything but it is here: > > List-Subscribe: , > Thanks for your answer. I tried several times, from diffeent addresses, to contact them. All my subscription/unsubscription/password reminder requests seems to be ignored. I also tried subscribing via the web interface or contacting the admins, by nothing happens. > In a world where almost everyone is going gmail or 365 I think it is > needed more than ever to be able to run your own mail server. Not sure what you mean here, but I have my own mailserver. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 07:43:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE52710D5651 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 551738B87E for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) X-Originating-IP: 182.58.237.172 Received: from v520.kathe.in (unknown [182.58.237.172]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89BDBE0016; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:13:40 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end Message-ID: <20181011074339.xhwxkgjjvcgj5mrp@v520.kathe.in> References: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:43:55 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21:48AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal mailing > > system under freebsd 11.2. > > > > i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the fond > > memories of "MH". > > > > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH based > > mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been unable to > > locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different name like > > heirloom or something? > > MH is just a way of storing mail messages and mailboxes. It's > an alternative to classic mbox, and the conceptual origin of > MailDir (often considered today's standard). afaik, 'mh' was an elegant solution to mailx and other captive user interfaces to the email problem under unix. 'mh' allowed one to follow the "unix philosophy" to _manage_ emails. the fact that it used "one file per email" which _is_ the conceptual origin of maildir is one of the by-products. > > could someone please help me understand the nitty-grities of getting a > > personal mail system setup under freebsd? > > Can you be more precise about what "mail system" should include > for you? The term itself is too broad. A "mail system" could be > one, several, or all of those: > > mail transfer agent - MTA (transmits to other servers) > mail delivery agent - MDA (delivers to local boxes) > mail user agent - MUA ("mail program" for the user) for me, "mail system" would include interacting with my emails to send, receive and manage them as effortlessly as possible, and at the same time being stateless (unlike my current mailer "mutt"). so yeah, i am talking about the "mail _user_agent_" thing. :-) > As you initially mentioned "personal mailing system", do you wish > to run your own server for receiving messages, or do you only want > a means to get your messages from storage elsewhere, and have some > specific kind of access to them? Do you think fetchmail + SHH + pine > could be such a combination? now (as-in unlike the past), i have no intention of running my own mail server for managing mails. i have a mail service provider who manages my mailboxes online for my domain and allows me to access my mails over imap, pop3 and smtp. i think a combination of fetchmail, sendmail and nmh should do the trick for me, but i have no idea about how to setup sendmail for anything, leave aside a simple situation as mine. and sendmail is installed by default under freebsd! :-) ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 07:47:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3410D57FE for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail2.protonmail.ch (mail2.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F00B58BA49 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:47:15 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20181011055236.138279b2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181011055236.138279b2.freebsd@edvax.de> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:47:29 -0000 > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > I've inherited a swapless FreeBSD 11.2 host with no unused disk space. > > I would like to add some swap to be on the safe side: in case there is > > a memory leak etc. > > On the other hand, I don't like to waste several gigabytes on a > > precious SSD because perhaps the system will never need this swap > > space anyway. > > Exactly my thoughts. :-) > > > The FreeBSD Handbook prescribes creating a swap file with "dd if=3D/dev= /zero ..." > > which would waste the space. > > A regular file as swap space also places additional > load into the virtual file system, whereas one of the > key advantages of a swap partition is that no file > access (through a filesystem) has to take place. > > > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > > make the swap a sparse file? > > I'm using a "pseudo-file" approach which hasn't shown any > problems so far. I'm using dd, but no actual disk space > will be allocated for the target file. That file then is > used like a regular swap partition via mdconfig's virtual > node facility, and also deleted. > > Sure, it probably isn't the ideal solution, but it works. > > Maybe you can use this for further inspiration? > > In /etc/rc.local: > > SWAP=3D"/swap0" > /bin/rm -f $SWAP > /bin/dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D$SWAP bs=3D16m seek=3D500 count=3D0 > /sbin/mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f $SWAP || /bin/sh > /bin/chflags nodump $SWAP > /bin/rm $SWAP > /sbin/swapctl -a /dev/md0 > echo -n " swap" > > In /etc/rc.shutdown.local: > > /sbin/swapctl -d /dev/md0 > /dev/null 2>&1 > > /sbin/mdconfig -d -u 0 > echo -n " swap" Another solution if you have a zfs filesystem is to create a new filesystem for swap that would contain only a swapfile. That way the dedicated filesystem would use space only when needed and shrink when unneeded, but you could also set a minimal amount of space and a maximal amount. I do not know what is your exact situation with this host you inherited, but maybe it would not be a bad idea to just reinstall a brand new FreeBSD on it with the partitioning scheme you want (of course, you might need to backup something). Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 11 08:51:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AC910B0759 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6B9C8DFB0 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1539247895; x=1541839895; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=GGi/W2nT7tKOo9q4pmJggSjObra98V96ufVpTlGj9GM=; b=OjIRXN+XwTNVWAVJI22bVuvHIlcDFNJa8/tjQHm8+EOjLEnB4YPaU+BBcJ5vLk3UazKWWWbb7R49X3JsccnFWBv8xNvpA9R6rmoMvFDkqU0ln8lKXlh37fMuQ447RT90LDkZyEh2rCvUQHPD/JScsf46A24UYslpITGJsTRPufA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWQwMDAwMDAwZDVlZGQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r5.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r5.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.39.5.146]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:51:18 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r5.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:51:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gAVkY-000HIM-BD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-Id: <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:35 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > make the swap a sparse file? Just one - if the space isn't there when the system needs it there will be a panic. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 03:38:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A429D10D0D4D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 093828F590; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from dalet420 ([174.0.43.39]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id AoHXg5atGwyxUAoHYgYa9q; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:38:33 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1539315513; bh=0w70Nq8feCMmaJgI7KKIx+g6ma786rUAcVW7TJWTlIQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=Nyc3pYoYYM4RRrhxRKwKftMSIWZcCuj+2K8CLKfHj88KUKZGoTmLiRmEl30vTZNlG ch6P1xykYw3NWrXmRWNRSRjh1lv+B0Ntk7lg78zjJbA44J73zt20VdDz+GwElFzb9Q 5Tb5+IJrlMrU7A52cP1enrsYtPErZty27Grk7GlaAKVeGTV60jpuMIIA5dKHYUGBJo 2Vmd/7oPtzsmQ3X1GZsttxKuA6GOuclvsrUxh1S/DUqUsP8zY1ZJpEuiaJkuE3e/Y5 hyTwAQC5QpRL5K4xPwFajb93w9/MOT0CUBYbp3yMda3+7c6VfZekcOWKH5oDDem9il zaSVx3YI64Nkw== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NPJhBHyg c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:117 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=5mcg790sAAAA:8 a=s9oXJcMGAAAA:8 a=jU4qhlNgAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=FP58Ms26AAAA:8 a=8lNFDXJBU3vkTw5Z4dMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=liFYMbub_p8A:10 a=W4nBnble3TUA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=nfXS7SrylieSTZg11GUA:9 a=bFNtdxA8yylxm4Tv:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=uQeDYW1NI25gHNlrW_eK:22 a=cNNliUDrGJfcKjVfkxUC:22 From: "Dale Scott" To: , Subject: how to install phpvirtualbox with php 7.2 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:38:32 -0600 Message-ID: <007f01d461dd$0dcf67b0$296e3710$@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdRh3B8YvcadGEUDQfGotF8fVroivw== Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAAZQLj9e1Eb5hhr/WGa0ojEYbc15IoQjUirVMwxNWOT/vq0XyeikFA4ZqOU0PT2w4RI85KniIcYzqETIQdNGI/ANroSQQyw6EhWmBy5wGWp/JmKz/rg 9k1rNWowCVhkbo6e6LnQlxbfDfAa9a84JfYOXgX21PJBNN4f0/32lwFzCuHItzd4zkuy6s60yF+mlw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:38:35 -0000 Hi all, the phpvirtualbox port depends on php 7.1 while I have php 7.2 installed. The dependencies are fairly basic and I already have the needed php 7.2 modules installed. Is it possible to force pkg to ignore the dependencies and use my already installed php 7.2? Thanks! Dale dale@whizzer:~ % php --version PHP 7.2.10 (cli) (built: Sep 20 2018 01:15:17) ( NTS ) Copyright (c) 1997-2018 The PHP Group Zend Engine v3.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2018 Zend Technologies dale@whizzer:~ % sudo pkg install phpvirtualbox Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. The following 7 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: phpvirtualbox: 5.2.0_1 php71-session: 7.1.22 php71: 7.1.22 php71-xml: 7.1.22 php71-simplexml: 7.1.22 php71-soap: 7.1.22 php71-json: 7.1.22 Number of packages to be installed: 7 The process will require 39 MiB more space. 6 MiB to be downloaded. Proceed with this action? [y/N]: n dale@whizzer:~ % dale@whizzer:~ % uname -a FreeBSD whizzer.dalescott.net 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Sep 27 08:16:24 UTC 2018 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 dale@whizzer:~ % Thanks! Dale --- Dale R. Scott, P.Eng. 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i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hMlm5y2+W163KBFfUqnPnK6gYft0SQwhvUXv38YCFxOQ7wxYCCT IGqtifmqfupfx8gpJdbPT0YvgHj263Wuz9O6EzkbCr2pl9z7IxySfebmSy3R3+ljp2wzcyI rQt6VAp0PndyGNDjbbpXXDhxWOK9yPTeaIVOboMEzuP8rwF+bkOG5Sx1lfEGAxl6xi8otV5 htp0+1gwTciMPkskGd4zw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:u8s5iqLe8oA=:iNoa8iBD7Rfcm909rKiRrT +gaR4cxuLIo7HYBG85TSmi/bmVAZMkeO2k1J9jw9lpIHxZ5Ru9pMs8zxKE729D0Znj3nVJhUy Lgx4O/3etAUsaOiAqmo4TART/fQQBdXmerVk056DvoE95yToePIQ6u7awf1jp7s29pnwsJ3Me aH3TMtF+Mc+pMHxaZq31EKMSDgeSvlTTF9C3zIRjhXErDoG0o3bR5OcGA2lPo9iS/bCNnLlPs 2dBVRlJG69igjVG+0mwwnlUTjPS1LGob6Xdk9waZdXsu3vozhVhSWD507oBksA5Sbk8Oz+btb roFKt4O/5e5HKJ2a+csL/ax7wJazB4b1LPLGY8Ih6KQyUQKFqKHelNOOJWK4vlLwTssxQtHr4 9UMX90Wpx2D+M4Vd8b95bSqlXPdin+H7z4NFatcmdeIWyBQmygFS7o8Jqw6/ierfMXFQDTL5s iT8oyJa032guS+ICFalb2TMB/K/JmDFXkmuMdMIs+dldT2HX9mjYwZKRLy9BeRfsnpof/93uN nOi0zWHjALo9TOu0MlQ5pAJfduAbYA0yfdYFuNgDy1GS4eYG/gaFXwWsVqz6qSZnd0F4qBddy htY6ORE7W/NS74TZrNufJ+XBjk4AvO1CpojUjgu11IIn6QmLOCo+7Sos0TesQAB41UHQWlsum 9qjkYIPHofiSfC+IX4CP2jZPoOC9yLnafGAjkBgJZQEnCEHSRY860Y9SACQoFXIv2tj2Ik897 qQSkPIJrF1JKTSvB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:05:36 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:13:40 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21:48AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:41:28 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > okay, so i have spent the past 3 days trying to setup a personal mailing > > > system under freebsd 11.2. > > > > > > i have grown to hate the stateful nature of "mutt" and relish the fond > > > memories of "MH". > > > > > > but, i have been unable to find material about how to setup a MH based > > > mailing system for personal use, for that matter, i have been unable to > > > locate a package for MH, is it listed under a different name like > > > heirloom or something? > > > > MH is just a way of storing mail messages and mailboxes. It's > > an alternative to classic mbox, and the conceptual origin of > > MailDir (often considered today's standard). > > afaik, 'mh' was an elegant solution to mailx and other captive user > interfaces to the email problem under unix. > 'mh' allowed one to follow the "unix philosophy" to _manage_ emails. > the fact that it used "one file per email" which _is_ the conceptual > origin of maildir is one of the by-products. I didn't know yet of MH as a software package for dealing with what became famous as the "MH format" for storing messages. Today, many MUAs can use MH for storing, even though they have their own means of manipulating the files and directories that represent messages and mailboxes. Always good to learn something new, even if it's old. :-) > for me, "mail system" would include interacting with my emails to send, > receive and manage them as effortlessly as possible, and at the same > time being stateless (unlike my current mailer "mutt"). > > so yeah, i am talking about the "mail _user_agent_" thing. :-) This looks like a typical MUA setup. > > As you initially mentioned "personal mailing system", do you wish > > to run your own server for receiving messages, or do you only want > > a means to get your messages from storage elsewhere, and have some > > specific kind of access to them? Do you think fetchmail + SHH + pine > > could be such a combination? > > now (as-in unlike the past), i have no intention of running my own mail > server for managing mails. That's good - because doing so involves much more effort and continuous work than it did in the past; you have to "build a reputation", "earn trust", and deal with all the spam which makes more than 90 % of the traffic you're going to encounter. It's not fun anymore... > i have a mail service provider who manages my mailboxes online for my > domain and allows me to access my mails over imap, pop3 and smtp. > > i think a combination of fetchmail, sendmail and nmh should do the trick > for me, but i have no idea about how to setup sendmail for anything, > leave aside a simple situation as mine. and sendmail is installed by > default under freebsd! :-) You don't need a big setup for sendmail. Depending on how you want to get your messages to your mail provider (so _he_ will send them), sendmail's "SmartHost" feature might be an option. However, this could limit your flexibility, so not using sendmail for sending messages, and instead using IMAP would look like the best option today. With fetchmail, no further configuration for sendmail (as the local mailer) would be needed. When you "fetchmail" your messages via POP3 or IMAP, the result will be placed into /var/mail/$USER, for any (!) MUA to pick it up from there. This approach allows you to get your messages independently (!) from what MUA you're using. There is no need to configure your POP or IMAP setting for receiving mail in the MUA, just "get from spool", that's it. This file is in mbox format. So what you need is a mailer that can "remotely manipulate" the messages on your ISP's server (or whoever manages your mailboxes). The _local_ part (local storage) can be in MH format. As I said, the mailer will get the message inbox /var/mail/$USER and then store it in whatever format you want. For example, Sylpheed does it this way (get from spool in mbox, store as MH). Oh, and even though it's a GUI MUA, it's very fast, lightweight, comfortable to use, no additional bloat. Regarding text mode MUAs, I've been using pine (alpine) in the past. If you want to try it as an alternative to mutt, here's some suggestion (even though it deals with "Google Mail", you can use the basic ideas of the instructions for _any_ IMAP-capable mail service provider): https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~csadmin/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_Pine_(Alpine)_for_IMAP_Gmail Oh, and you can access it over SSH, too. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 06:15:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CB910D4875 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F12857431C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAqj0-0005ID-K2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:15:02 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAqj0-0005nz-Fy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:15:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:15:02 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd : personal mailing system : setup : at wits end Message-ID: <20181012061502.GA20956@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20181010111127.pcid2wfesudc7tug@v520.kathe.in> <20181011002148.d07244a1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181011074339.xhwxkgjjvcgj5mrp@v520.kathe.in> <20181012070525.fcabe97d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20181012070525.fcabe97d.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:15:12 -0000 El día Friday, October 12, 2018 a las 07:05:25AM +0200, Polytropon escribió: > ... > > I didn't know yet of MH as a software package for dealing with > what became famous as the "MH format" for storing messages. > Today, many MUAs can use MH for storing, even though they have > their own means of manipulating the files and directories that > represent messages and mailboxes. > > Always good to learn something new, even if it's old. :-) Btw: I'm a happy user of fetchmail / sendmail / mutt on all my FreeBSD laptops for *many* years. Said that, and to learn something new, is MH what we nowadays have as mail/nmh in our beloved ports tree? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub October, 7 -- The GDR was different: Peace instead of Bundeswehr and wars, Druschba instead of Nazis, to live instead of to survive. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 10:32:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D9010B6C6A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward102o.mail.yandex.net (forward102o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9567C345 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from mxback7g.mail.yandex.net (mxback7g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:168]) by forward102o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EF8CB5A01BEE for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:32:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (smtp3p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:8]) by mxback7g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id ROEDCwSgTm-W8XeiqIx; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:32:08 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539340328; bh=Js/tFjmRPa504vhg+01035KiGFxLUZ/NVOoD8yU2JFc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID; b=QUCj2IcoCBA91RlpCJBcjhKPY+Cj2IDmCFvDpdjw3cAvBBoqTly54SAxE8NNvkVXo JZxPprL/rsTPZd3fn7GdmcY8nRRHv/03/h4g99c6EWde0VYT+c5HhGsf/dpfntqORC 3HmUB0XgEV1QsPtL0Q4cZ3LVx/OdXIxKUkEFrN48= Received: by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 96yuKufeaT-W7YKBYxU; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:32:07 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1539340327; bh=Js/tFjmRPa504vhg+01035KiGFxLUZ/NVOoD8yU2JFc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID; b=HPhJo++iO7NDW6/4Cv3i8VdL1UuffSQUSdby61iAQKQBxGsr5RZAjOndydv8P7Pxb ivDw70Z/NnJFEBuxJCWdDlkNULaUCj4jFERgK2eiftpCywcvBzLMXHbviIGExmHgaa L1fykXR9otFyDFYDWTcDUT+F+t+2ODgM22hxFuy8= Authentication-Results: smtp3p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:32:04 -0400 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: GIMP 2.10.6,1 Message-ID: <20181012063204.2a2fb3f0@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:32:20 -0000 Hi! First I have a good experience with 2.10 version but I am confuse with installation: If I have enabled HELPBROWSER it doesn't build And there is for pkg-message: "On FreeBSD 10.4 gimp can cause the following error. (script-fu:3985): LibGimp-ERROR **: shmat() failed: Invalid argument Could not attach to gimp shared memory segment This can be fixed by setting kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. FreeBSD 11.0-R and newer have this set by default." My system is FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 (amd64) and I got the LibGimp error anyway. Does anyone has the same experience, please? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 13:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CBE10BE72E for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B07E183312 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail11.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.11]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4DBA72000A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd packages going the debian way! Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Message-ID: X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:41 -0000 i have been tinkering around with mailing system options under freebsd and have found most of the options are dependent on entire unnecessary bloated external components. eg.; - fetchmail depends on python, why? - nmh depends on curl and libhttp, why? - getmail depends on python + python config suite, why? somehow, freebsd packages seem to be going the debian way, why? i am willing to abandon "nmh" and be happy with mailx, but how do i get my remote emails onto my local system without having to install a bloated fetchmail package which depends on an entire python programming system? btw, the stock sendmail seems nicely minimalistic, good to know. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 13:52:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578510BED5D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: from dirk.psychedelicpirate.com (mail.nielsk.de [213.73.114.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A617839B5 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com) Received: from sam.interdotnet.de ([213.73.110.159] helo=localhost) by dirk.psychedelicpirate.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gAxrS-0003ue-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:52:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:52:14 +0200 From: Niels Kobschaetzki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ignoring/deleting/whatever data errors in zpool Message-ID: <20181012135214.dhesksx2t2tugsur@sam> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Sender: nik@dirk.psychedelicpirate.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:52:25 -0000 Hi, I have a virtual machine that has two virtual disks with a ZFS on it. The storage cluster beneath the virtual disks had severe problems and now I have on one disk a pool with nearly 3000 data errors. I don't care about those data errors and would like to have those files somehow removed from my system, so that the pool becomes healthy again. I did two scrubs and there are still 2720 errors or so. Is there an easy way to purge those files without destroying snapshots and deleting them by hand? I do not even get the output of a zpool status -v poolname redirected to a file, so that I could use a script (besides that snapshots are readonly). What is the way to go here? I don't want to do a restore, I accepted the loss and want the files gone. Niels From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 14:04:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D410BF5B0 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EFEA8423A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w9CE4D5H012120 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:04:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w9CE4DUV012117 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:04:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Ignoring/deleting/whatever data errors in zpool In-Reply-To: <20181012135214.dhesksx2t2tugsur@sam> Message-ID: References: <20181012135214.dhesksx2t2tugsur@sam> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:04:24 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:52+0200, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > I have a virtual machine that has two virtual disks with a ZFS on > it. The storage cluster beneath the virtual disks had severe > problems and now I have on one disk a pool with nearly 3000 data > errors. I don't care about those data errors and would like to have > those files somehow removed from my system, so that the pool becomes > healthy again. I did two scrubs and there are still 2720 errors or > so. Maybe the underlaying storage system is unable to maintain the corrections done by ZFS. > Is there an easy way to purge those files without destroying > snapshots and deleting them by hand? The snapshots themselves may still reference the affected files. Thus, some, if not all, of the snapshots must be destroyed first. > What is the way to go here? I don't want to do a restore, I accepted the > loss and want the files gone. Maybe it's time to abandon the pool altogether. Fix that storage system and recreate everything from scratch. You have my sympathy, data loss is never funny even if the system is expendible. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 15:46:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F4110C21E3 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 986478921C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MMp08-1fuQis0you-00Iome; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:54 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MMp08-1fuQis0you-00Iome; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd packages going the debian way! Message-Id: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Je7mrgysVEl7h4BrWOsWO0cbGGEncUsAfeL4hv6WnIy1D6z0u5p CUPZQ0OxAruF63Hk/wLVBlT0SojK4UtCa0fE1coDsjcr5q1rrC0KxrPSvpTmVGHFRy6akLt FZlvp/zSQIpoL8xhshnYNlwbEkGIVYQqXnmDsKep9eV8JqxdjrxrQmiGlot9P+m4W2eMOf1 4HViGNeXHuVljWVxvXWSw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qTrUdFeDpNE=:KiqK5h7x677bMFsKR8Xryb pbKBPA3zs5Heew83yGYiGZ1vmjrBUges/ki0AWH0ETYo+xwEfwl7zghM3R7VNa4k44yf4Hyq1 tC6TfG949StkOIZ1dh5rY0wM8MYejvbYp/hTiZ6uJ7HT1GUUEGV3TOyf6wsZhr+Goxs3c62M+ eHntA6Vfh5rsyRCIUtZSbgrnjHS8Ps93c26FUSF6UyPx6Cx0heFkKYhz/NCsKBA/8L8AmSHUS Yu2/ENTWlwOA7beQe7QKSjwBI0ubcvAJELIk3UDq30x0CjI8iHLSUZQQl+7oTh1abznJg8HXK tY8uXaI04sr9dchXqjGlHIxoFqr7Bm/0zhoFp2jAeinth5CwbJwCOzX+IFnHB3qGptnUwnHLE c09C5CZ6A281n9SiAR5pIhsr5WRqkvY9tHrosyY/G8WRbz0rDU9+Pd9RwdUshs6/XZzUA/koo +nQZKbbzdis3CeFamLnKqJNfX2mYpEZyoYegSZNzvKuWXYw1orLSW2I57G9HkxC8Nsnb4LwNw +5uqiAapPGQiruRKMZYH5qkUKassVhsQ4CII5lBFeJkZteSFWOnKrOD8d7t2c9BYZ6f5MG/UP F9x9IEo83Mthi8JM86tgmX36B/6+43xQr1c+1wVv0VFTFu0OeEDzgIl4bh5M2zaip+6cI7IUG fjqFZdi9nTVK6Jfo3tWGr3rtYU6h3HfSihaSxBQvsZDACI9RdqNF3YiOgPWpsQqARFWlGcQt5 8Kv119pmasUG5R1i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:46:04 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > i have been tinkering around with mailing system options under freebsd > and have found most of the options are dependent on entire unnecessary > bloated external components. > eg.; > - fetchmail depends on python, why? I think because of the fetchmailconf X11 tool, that one actually requires Python - fetchmail itself doesn't. So in this case, you are much better _not_ using the package (where the default building options don't fit your needs or expectations), and go with "make configure", select only the stuff that you _actually_ want, and then run "make install". > - nmh depends on curl and libhttp, why? Seems to be something new. Older versions didn't need it. > - getmail depends on python + python config suite, why? It surely is a core dependency here. > somehow, freebsd packages seem to be going the debian way, why? Ask those who set the default build options for the packages. This is what lets the list of dependencies grow. It's worth noting that most software today is developed on Linux, and _for_ Linux primarily. The software ported to FreeBSD, i. e., what you find in the ports collection, adds FreeBSD-specific patches, but still heavily depends on a typical Linux build system, like configure, GNU make, and "build suites" which in turn can depend on Python to format the error messages. ;-) > i am willing to abandon "nmh" and be happy with mailx, but how do i get > my remote emails onto my local system without having to install a > bloated > fetchmail package which depends on an entire python programming system? As I said, build fetchmail yourself instead of using the package. Check if there is a "-no-x11" or "-without-gui" package (I doubt it, but that was pretty standard decades ago, like for CVS and gs). There simply is no "one size fits all" package for everything and everyone. But allow me to mention pine / alpine again. It's very versatile and still low on dependencies. Maybe you like it better than mail/mailx? However, when I did use it, I couldn't stand the editor and used other (external) editors, usually joe or mcedit. :-) > btw, the stock sendmail seems nicely minimalistic, good to know. And with the ports system, you can build that version. However, building software from ports with different options than the official packages can (and probably will) cause additional work for you: Either you use "pkg unlock" and "pkg lock" around upgrading your system with "pkg", or you consider using Poudriere (I'm never sure I got the spelling right). But if fetchmail is your only "nonstandard port", using the lock/unlock mechanism is probably okay. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Thanks, amit From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 18:36:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DAA10C66DF for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x441.google.com (mail-wr1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::441]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1A808FD91 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x441.google.com with SMTP id 61-v6so14445369wrb.6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ekUHzb52rmxmz6PS0cLq7NXLn8f9Zyip23QTzk3ffG4=; b=IL8US42J0DfwvOYTpj1X4rXhlstHwTvzaMy4fFECePW6SlZPNjSFoejY3PGeKH0gMo efE/7C3GqoVuKQPHkgKStVnv1w9lHfj2oRHX4QvGyDbSwlvHJAdurmbpqpPBQZst+tUL UE0ChQV4bm4MSMvwg3586Cc8v5pZ0o8uoOt9JPD0Mm1C/6KCVkWKlTx8fbZCnD+HOhmj JqIsAKpDcXQ+BDzEqulStBqD+P0sXOErhtZ9lzFzB8WcZj6pRZ33mcaXCnEIjDL8dowF oG6g8cWmPvcZqEEUKAAyUrtT7lVxm1W3CumCKEqf/bUuPfMHRt4TZoCluz5NBWY6tQgb nMXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohHZRo8HtHVD339+/Vn6BxM9R9OCbhsKRHPwacG8nAQaJuay85Q wFqCtGmwvmft+/qZKneaSIZp/TQjpKg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60tIuTddbFqsmzMyZcwxq4z0oFVKUIIqwUFkfBXHvay0nAPtLxlQ8M9Rt5VLTrj9gkwRYqdBw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ea42:: with SMTP id j2-v6mr6609824wrn.224.1539369397432; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.209.155.76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 18-v6sm3049862wmw.26.2018.10.12.11.36.35 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:36:33 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-ID: <20181012193633.7dc32f86@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:36:39 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > > make the swap a sparse file? > > Just one - if the space isn't there when the system needs it > there will be a panic. Is that really the only reason? I've not paid much attention, but the warnings I've heard about this have made it sound a lot worse. 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Message-ID: <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:11:14 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:53 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > i have been tinkering around with mailing system options under > > freebsd and have found most of the options are dependent on entire > > unnecessary bloated external components. > > eg.; > > - fetchmail depends on python, why? > > I think because of the fetchmailconf X11 tool, that one > actually requires Python - fetchmail itself doesn't. So > in this case, you are much better _not_ using the package > (where the default building options don't fit your needs > or expectations), and go with "make configure", select > only the stuff that you _actually_ want, and then run > "make install". It's strange, the python dependency seems to be unconditional when I would have expected it to be conditional on the X11 option (which is off by default). This may be a mistake. > > - nmh depends on curl and libhttp, why? > > Seems to be something new. Older versions didn't need it. Seems to be for OAUTH authentication, currently just for sending though gmail by the look of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 04:28:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF6510AE10B for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25B6187069 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbizQ-1ffz6d0Egg-00dJEG; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:21 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbizQ-1ffz6d0Egg-00dJEG; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Cc: RW via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: freebsd packages going the debian way! Message-Id: <20181013062320.74a41dc2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:UZD26uh7JvUSbfxPH98JEcM5QtMCa5xXwDEUVBTTsl5NGCO/Bu8 +HAIfjzZSYdmXex5Sb0Zqax1Dl5+VNe/tHxeV1kRlcXUNRJpXZtdmTt+Vb7+wI4YHHo9BaF 0jQyQmy8joZgyvZVgrXpiNy4NXBf76v529puxyoKokkd9HuJIXR1381IK2FdxUTya8m37cl 6xPn6WpYj24W4QHMzUIrw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gSXxOgHr9XI=:zMb/9tAiiZTBRYOKuqdusT 6G+1g9kXe9npmdoV3XuYAwHjPYjg4nH3KP5oLFwVxaBIN5eqbGHCL+cM16zkoTc6MOhokLDzL edHSAdT7tqbYoqfpBVTqDHD2+Ai8maX193Gg2b5JlMK1AqhSZHT2Z2DkH0oIQ1vFujnCyQj6I slSOiHFqphTfb0vcPnX7bcXBuQs2Kh/fd10Cls975+HPZQm+je9eqqC/bbGhlXMM7SFjl1Mzx PFq8CqNoQFjX/x1ZC5FKNJfpzkibBavmJA9E714aggefSdGJZjeXx8uNbrcZOQQMLjqBkmxny T1xZBcnVejpLa1BdX39vRw1Lh6FaScZKTSa9FGYUmVwCptke1+j0G3wZwGaTuTjZuHqJ2Wd6e 7VImb4riFc9Rxde6drTrzr32WmWVYVTusOve7ZVIgGBqxGy9ZRQj7ltcPXjMmYcB4uAcBoshj ED+GSPdBMS5k/eeGwfinGUBc9fHlPcv1jtgEtiqHLgmPsrB5Dy/I4+jhuMLTTk3Q1fffcuzTc octqwuoq31y63EO6kXuu3PsGMmvkUktCTCRPjw0B7BPu+LgeumJE9qWvepHemjyletf9WtN0q jaWkhzaKMS5TORqE0b41ugsqIYFnOyMgzrZechMU59thT97YV5Cnf8N3xnnSPkDZl8PG8PhM0 1gS5l6ggZEv6IQxbgs9z8EcCKJs3ViTbjELXTC0+iOVor8wMz7Dh3sl4ZA1UnmY5RrSeZCSJx Zv/frZ9RvU5YhnRO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:46 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:11:07 +0100, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:53 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > i have been tinkering around with mailing system options under > > > freebsd and have found most of the options are dependent on entire > > > unnecessary bloated external components. > > > eg.; > > > - fetchmail depends on python, why? > > > > I think because of the fetchmailconf X11 tool, that one > > actually requires Python - fetchmail itself doesn't. So > > in this case, you are much better _not_ using the package > > (where the default building options don't fit your needs > > or expectations), and go with "make configure", select > > only the stuff that you _actually_ want, and then run > > "make install". > > It's strange, the python dependency seems to be unconditional when I > would have expected it to be conditional on the X11 option (which is off > by default). This may be a mistake. If it really is, I suspect a typical case of the "documentation does not match reality" Linuxism, as well as "let's just include everything" Linuxism. ;-) > > > - nmh depends on curl and libhttp, why? > > > > Seems to be something new. Older versions didn't need it. > > Seems to be for OAUTH authentication, currently just for sending though > gmail by the look of it. Maybe because "Google Mail is now the standard" it was decided to include it by default. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 07:11:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9840210B7C84 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 07:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46A068CAB9 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 07:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1539414694; x=1542006694; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=0JmGOMs/WdcIzNsyFcrbdZyAw/KpvYfiawWFzfNRveE=; b=c25G9zCeB5MgEkLz/oDdaxciRISPMCUcPUJmtIujFmBNlGGyP/dDca88jzzcFlnzxfN8HWzQsB1rEcMdMYuRANkx5eVlK7Ew63CQVYZzy1QxC/REZEpSGhnnUXtynnGOExfojix+FVutVNslDA5p8IMV7c1uRAJcV1Gpm4TSqoo= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWQwMDAwMDAzNmRkMzguZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.h.in.socketlabs.com (s1-b40f.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.180.15]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 03:11:22 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 03:11:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gBE51-00075r-1c; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:11:19 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:11:18 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-Id: <20181013081118.9e8632405e555c3bf2f9a722@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20181012193633.7dc32f86@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> <20181012193633.7dc32f86@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 07:11:34 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:36:33 +0100 RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > > > make the swap a sparse file? > > > > Just one - if the space isn't there when the system needs it > > there will be a panic. > > Is that really the only reason? I've not paid much attention, but the > warnings I've heard about this have made it sound a lot worse. There's not much worse the system can do than panic, other than deadlock which might happen if memory needs to be allocated in order to add blocks to the file. IIRC swap on a zvol can deadlock that way. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 08:26:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E9F10BB6F7 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585198F7DE for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: KD0IzV8VM1l_sY8MeuHUR.BKAd.ygiOrxNBUKmtY4Z6352b_aGK25qBZVEGJh9s 3x4xIlyLjDX70augREp9kugi.Keu8sx9eBbg2qtPWc7XOve4azJBevFMYQfEggujsYisMK_jjDhp chlV.sjmj2sTRAQFbdpk5IOezDmzD1EIlMQTuW_3ss_G8Sov8wk2p_z8vD3MvIUJ3IFI5q340X2j w8_ZBvt_7KHnsYIFR3V3IfUt2YqAbg9LOi887lPPUCY.mn0_OPQvaHpHnep1lQgGnyFykdMZjYY2 ZiEZ5UKtKk4YT7QOp.caKCWFGzjXctqih2P2GCvgR6FrRXGWWpMp2GiR5qB1AlwSi49flgvono81 GsiBaPeQ0r0Sz4TYk_f853u2JofIm.pVPrvNPfWKbvlnj1XHgc3cgutHVi0q1muALr81xVuX2uVr z5C5yKvKj6svH5zbQn_D_betu.EAxA.ddRhI.AT3zZ8YO1v6R19k6CsvVbwPtN9yW1R5aYVJMWi9 A3pOftPBJp2iKK8D9JH_NJt4m2WJXX_41iZbZA7yfjQ4CdFhdj7GRv6Zl3Y2gyKFNJf3nEwCIsGC cn80rfOoWrX3QL7bssna61Wd5k2rWcx0elZpR5nw_CmcUst3FSOFkDmKBgSTaJhDwczuXYfuBxuT FfTFckoG2F584NWOcc3REvNJHTLAFnx7nFggxwqjLrS_ahRgY8ATMJvfqeeqV21QkIEaund63rwv ap.O8emB5uUiKle.KL_zsoP83tVq.psoHSQ1Ux26kdsHbvaH1r0ZTEwmgvIsi8qL40Ma2H6Te.Gh MOHba.CJzbwFQ__Cyj8Uli1mE8ZhrW3C2E8nBtd5STDQcnwcf6ZL5BFZoAGaSfiXoHR94Uwe.kqQ o64RBRvsq.i3NXZMiJA5.q.HevjSmLd2_.L_kD8.XM2N.QAFx7g588SMjh2sWNlLK2yLdLxLXJ4R cBgaclpiLjXuVC6TuJvcR13KmOsgaijETLfw6sKYk.an4.LSCusuOy4HbMTuqSjaT7q1B767jOTZ BBnYwx.S2L8f47XB5d.29pC8txSzmjG8T5zeqPQJ6AdMnuc8NVK6gJKnchWzbuqEFNLOvT.mxbn8 UVL404MHTF0WGMLopqdfM Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:26:18 +0000 Received: from x5d846811.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([93.132.104.17]) by smtp420.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 069978d6df5ba2d3f91c6d2f36a15b30; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:26:15 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: freebsd packages going the debian way! Message-ID: <20181013102615.14fa4e9e@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20181013062320.74a41dc2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> <20181013062320.74a41dc2.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:26:20 -0000 >>> So in this case, you are much better _not_ using the package >>> (where the default building options don't fit your needs >>> or expectations), and go with "make configure", select >>> only the stuff that you _actually_ want, and then run >>> "make install". >Linuxism As a Linux user I should chime in. In my experience, at least when using Linux, it requires less user maintenance when building an empty dummy package, that fakes to provide an unneeded dependency. On Linux I usually build such dummy packages for at least gvfs and pulseaudio. However, it's just a minority of Linux developers, who make optional dependencies idiotic hard dependencies. Btw. apart from some major desktop environments and some other software, it's usually possible to get in contact with Linux software upstream and usually upstream is willing to correct such issues. Since I'm using a Linux distro that follows upstream to the good and the bad, take a look at this: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Si fetchmail | grep Dep -A2 | head -3 Depends On : openssl Optional Deps : tk: for using fetchmailconf python2: for using fetchmailconf Python is an optional dependency, not a hard dependency. The OP doesn't experience a "Linuxism". If the FreeBSD package makes it a hard dependency, than get in contact with the FreeBSD's package maintainer, since the FreeBSD package is incorrect. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 09:29:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2F510BFAC0 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42F0E71FE8 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.101.149]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M1aQN-1gDj4Z2P2x-0035HN; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:29:16 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.101.149]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M1aQN-1gDj4Z2P2x-0035HN; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:29:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:29:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: freebsd packages going the debian way! 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The OP doesn't > experience a "Linuxism". If the FreeBSD package makes it a hard > dependency, than get in contact with the FreeBSD's package maintainer, > since the FreeBSD package is incorrect. I didn't want to claim the opposite. ;-) Yes, the Tkinter and Python dependencies are only needed for the GUI tool fetchmailconf to work. Regular fetchmail does not need it, and in my opinion, _this_ should be reflected in the default package building options, as fetchmail is often used as CLI tool only, and especially when used on servers, you don't want or need any X11 dependencies. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 13:52:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F7C10CAB46 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com (mail-wr1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D17767B9B2 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id n1-v6so16295437wrt.10 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yWu6+1QnTGHyxO7E1PjxxPLOlugflioCXdiGWF4KPoQ=; b=DSqQ4AtAse15jGpQcEW+JXwjp4oFIgNzJlRA33/yoOGpmcACI5pftvqOhpfGtf1OLo KxUkXVe8wjeVMimVFPHrNjXpu07K9ccvTD+l95UqJZc5lijiKFVFF1//ONTUZE827Qdh 9jz30gBL/DOpu8wTAdzUeTm0hL8tr4ZXjy4PoKm3I+BHc8s2fAgaV+J3fh4POkvokiXn 1+yQSzdKvVcqInTRixgQqQ67F8RDKD9YElu5ewJPhUeTvxLUqi+g7XGK2548oEYZCbeh 1b5WMKvrjUzWjPM1r0zu1o3WE1N/VoCT1FyXEbQalht8uXYuOsym9v2lXTWG3Z8a7huZ /H5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohpZwxxresQkFprE3/q9b3O58sNm9umGK5AREEC0Ngq5Sun1NEb SFE+DGa3azRiGFPaMSmV7TwHH4oUOCk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61PekRC+knaAP8W2WWZe/W1Ctz1VKGg2UudTOQhqi9KQGdknlieEol6M/I93veuBzfT40gxrw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6309:: with SMTP id i9-v6mr8316292wru.163.1539438770325; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.209.155.76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 74-v6sm3868829wmi.23.2018.10.13.06.52.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:52:47 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-ID: <20181013145247.0a4b7f05@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20181013081118.9e8632405e555c3bf2f9a722@sohara.org> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> <20181012193633.7dc32f86@gumby.homeunix.com> <20181013081118.9e8632405e555c3bf2f9a722@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:52:52 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:11:18 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:36:33 +0100 > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 > > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 > > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > > > > make the swap a sparse file? > > > > > > Just one - if the space isn't there when the system needs > > > it there will be a panic. > > > > Is that really the only reason? I've not paid much attention, but > > the warnings I've heard about this have made it sound a lot worse. > > There's not much worse the system can do than panic, other > than deadlock which might happen if memory needs to be allocated in > order to add blocks to the file. IIRC swap on a zvol can deadlock > that way. Yes, but filling up a drive is relatively avoidable - particularly if there's space reserved for root. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 14:19:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316FD10CB6A2 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD6577C60A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1539440379; x=1542032379; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=j2Xo10QhxG2q+3yonoB0hj8ofIo2vTP3QI0GQSBEz60=; b=JY0xFotZePLWpE1KA0QfAkZz2X4PIK5i8TCvuo0g24xubD2hnm1FxWyc4srG2ZFomzw3GqER/mThvlx4L3WvdWSkC7tnjfKKVgn6TjR45b45XklYPVPilJnv1wgYEliw56McfwIAt5/OXsg5f1ki2BmV4Xurumen1XJcGUpNnAw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWQwMDAwMDAzYjA5YTUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.85.171.149]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:19:27 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:19:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gBKlI-0009BI-B0; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:19:24 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:19:23 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW Subject: Re: swap to a sparse file Message-Id: <20181013151923.edca08f54b508dc98b91cb37@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20181013145247.0a4b7f05@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20181011014705.GA17798@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181011085114.bfcdb701b3644728a71eaa38@sohara.org> <20181012193633.7dc32f86@gumby.homeunix.com> <20181013081118.9e8632405e555c3bf2f9a722@sohara.org> <20181013145247.0a4b7f05@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:19:39 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:52:47 +0100 RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:11:18 +0100 > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:36:33 +0100 > > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:51:14 +0100 > > > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:47:05 +0700 > > > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there any good reason I can't just "truncate -s2G /swap0" and > > > > > make the swap a sparse file? > > > > > > > > Just one - if the space isn't there when the system needs > > > > it there will be a panic. > > > > > > Is that really the only reason? I've not paid much attention, but > > > the warnings I've heard about this have made it sound a lot worse. > > > > There's not much worse the system can do than panic, other > > than deadlock which might happen if memory needs to be allocated in > > order to add blocks to the file. IIRC swap on a zvol can deadlock > > that way. > > > Yes, but filling up a drive is relatively avoidable - particularly if > there's space reserved for root. True enough, although if you are counting on having the space available then pre-allocating it is a strong guarantee and prevents the performance penalty of adding a block to a file as an overhead of swapping. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 15:03:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868D910CCA43 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 072f8b28.AMsAABqMR0gAAcEdHQgAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbwgk5@bnc3.mailjet.com) Received: from o163.p8.mailjet.com (o163.p8.mailjet.com [87.253.233.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0890D7DD14 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 072f8b28.AMsAABqMR0gAAcEdHQgAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbwgk5@bnc3.mailjet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; d=bnc3.mailjet.com; i=sales=3Dlondonvintageguitars.com@bnc3.mailjet.com; s=mailjet; h=message-id:mime-version:from:to:subject:date:list-id:list-unsubscribe: precedence:x-csa-complaints:x-mj-mid:x-mj-smtpguid:x-report-abuse-to: content-type; bh=d4dWJuy4Svd6Cirx56ToeY7MNEvs1mR9YpzMYsgtaDI=; b=PEZh6Viw0mKooV2wzqf4LFVmH/6DnZXDOxZJP6rmY+rmKbH1wBrrJHNpD 64qPmZKc5YdZ/yDM61cUrfxWGY1w1e84Xc+BPwIts9vHQ9SOyM1UW5sl8dBp APyTV6f+H3eZojr+P3So5ijaLIJtcPOKs5K0Xu9IVwZCY7sMwlPQ6A= Message-Id: <072f8b28.AMsAABqMR0gAAcEdHQgAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbwgk5@mailjet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Denmark Street Guitars To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Classic Gear Priced to Sell Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Precedence: bulk X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complaints@eco.de X-MJ-Mid: AMsAABqMR0gAAcEdHQgAAEo91zIAAML8oQsAHvWaAAFMuwBbwgk5xTkv9RZQRUyDVg8jnFHkBAABPns X-MJ-SMTPGUID: c5392ff5-1650-454c-8356-0f239c51e404 X-REPORT-ABUSE-TO: Message sent by Mailjet please report to abuse@mailjet.com with a copy of the message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:03:32 -0000 [[HEADLINE]] [[PERMALINK_FULL_LINK]] TITLE OF YOUR EMAIL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The content of your email goes here. 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[65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y23-v6sm13856034itc.0.2018.10.13.15.06.28 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5BC26C64.5090906@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:06:28 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: SVN help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 22:06:31 -0000 Need help with command line svnlite command to download /usr/src/tests/sys/netpfil/pf directory svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/.....what goes here Thanks in advance