From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sun Oct 14 01:29:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686FC10BA461 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 01:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from dec.sakura.ne.jp (dec.sakura.ne.jp [210.188.226.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A89F07204D for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 01:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from fortune.joker.local (124-18-90-199.dz.commufa.jp [124.18.90.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by dec.sakura.ne.jp (8.15.2/8.15.2/[SAKURA-WEB]/20080708) with ESMTPA id w9E0kVgT018435; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:46:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:46:31 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20181014094631.e982d0de643befc1a8ec208a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <201810130907.w9D97lWG013767@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> References: <201810130111.w9D1Bdbc021214@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <8ABC790B-1AA9-4531-9781-95C1AC397E5E@gmail.com> <201810130907.w9D97lWG013767@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> Reply-To: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96334] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRCAxMRskQiRHJE4bKEJWVBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEskRCQkJEYbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 01:29:43 -0000 青木@名古屋です。　チョット体調を崩しているのでこの後の フォローができないかもしれませんが...。 　・ThinkPad T420のNVS4200搭載モデルで 　・BIOSでディスクリートグラフィックス固定かつUEFI起動 　　（強制的にefifb使用のvtになります）の状態で x11/nvifia-driverを使っていますが、全く問題なくAlt+（Xが絡むと Ctrlも）+Fxで切り替えできてます。 nvidia-modeset.koは使っていますか？　これが導入されて以来、 無いと切り替えが正常にできなかった記憶があります。 これをloader.confなり、rc.confでのkld_listなりで組み込めば 依存関係でnvidia.koも自動的に読み込まれます。 UEFI環境ではvesaドライバは使えなかったと思います（scfbでないと 駄目）ので、CSM（Legacy BIOS互換モード）で起動しているんですよね？ nvidia-modeset.koは、どちらで起動しても大丈夫だったと思いますが...。 もしnvidia-modeset.koをお使いでしたら別の問題ということになります。 On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:07:47 +0900 Hisao Osawa wrote: > 大澤です。 > > アドバイスありがとうございます。 > scfbドライバはなぜか動かなかったのですが、 > vesaドライバで試したところ Ctl+Alt+F2 で問題なくコンソールを > 切り替えられました。 > どうやら使っている nvidia-driver が悪さをしているようです。 > > ちなみに、pciconfによると、 > vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x730a19da chip=0x128710de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > device = 'GK208B [GeForce GT 730]' > class = display > subclass = VGA > です。 > > > 大澤 > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:36:42 +0900, > 内藤 祐一郎 wrote: > > > > 内藤です。 > > > > 細かいところまで把握しているわけではありませんが、 > > グラフィックドライバの相性問題とかはあるかもしれません。 > > > > まずは問題を切り分けるために xf86-video-scfb ドライバを使うとどうなりますか？ > > また、現在使用しているドライバ、グラフィックチップを教えてください。 > > > > -- > > 内藤 祐一郎 > > naito.yuichiro@gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users-jp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-users-jp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sun Oct 14 01:37:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FCD10BAD44 for ; 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Received: from Mintaka.localdomain.smtp2.tbd.t-com.ne.jp (121.net112138206.t-com.ne.jp [112.138.206.121]) by m-msa-tcm01.int.mmtr.basmail.jp with ESMTP id w9E5U7AW013789; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:30:08 +0900 Message-Id: <201810140530.w9E5U7AW013789@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:30:07 +0900 From: Hisao Osawa To: Tomoaki AOKI Cc: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20181014094631.e982d0de643befc1a8ec208a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> References: <201810130111.w9D1Bdbc021214@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <8ABC790B-1AA9-4531-9781-95C1AC397E5E@gmail.com> <201810130907.w9D97lWG013767@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <20181014094631.e982d0de643befc1a8ec208a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/26 (amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96337] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRCAxMRskQiRHJE4bKEJWVBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEskRCQkJEYbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:30:13 -0000 大澤です。 nvidia-modesetは使っています。 これを使わないとそもそもXが起動しませんから。 8年前のマザーボードなのでBIOSしかありません。 FreeBSD Handbookの記述はちょっと曖昧なところもありますが、 scfbはUEFI環境用なのですね。 Xが起動していなければAlt+F?でコンソール切り替えができるのですが、 X起動中にはうまくいかないのでnvidia-driverとビデオカードの 組み合わせで起こっているっていうことなんでしょうね。 大澤 On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:46:31 +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > 青木@名古屋です。　チョット体調を崩しているのでこの後の > フォローができないかもしれませんが...。 > > 　・ThinkPad T420のNVS4200搭載モデルで > 　・BIOSでディスクリートグラフィックス固定かつUEFI起動 > 　　（強制的にefifb使用のvtになります）の状態で > > x11/nvifia-driverを使っていますが、全く問題なくAlt+（Xが絡むと > Ctrlも）+Fxで切り替えできてます。 > nvidia-modeset.koは使っていますか？　これが導入されて以来、 > 無いと切り替えが正常にできなかった記憶があります。 > > これをloader.confなり、rc.confでのkld_listなりで組み込めば > 依存関係でnvidia.koも自動的に読み込まれます。 > > UEFI環境ではvesaドライバは使えなかったと思います（scfbでないと > 駄目）ので、CSM（Legacy BIOS互換モード）で起動しているんですよね？ > nvidia-modeset.koは、どちらで起動しても大丈夫だったと思いますが...。 > > もしnvidia-modeset.koをお使いでしたら別の問題ということになります。 > > 中略 > > -- > 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] > From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sun Oct 14 05:18:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BC010C53DD for ; 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X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; i386-portbld-freebsd8.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96336] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRC0xMS4yIBskQiROGyhCIGphX0pQLmV1Y0pQ?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?IBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:18:34 -0000 やっと、問題の核心に近付いたようです。xorg などを ports から compile するか pkg install するかは関係ないようです。 この問題は 1) FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510 を ISO-IMAGES の CD-ROM から(クリーン)インストール 2) login 時に LC_ALL を ja_JP.eucJP にする設定のみ追加 (例えば /root/.profile に内容に追加) 3) login して startx を実行 4) xterm で Alt-A とか Alt-B などをキー入力すると crush 5) xterm で date コマンドを実行し、その中の「日曜日」など を他の xterm に paste すると crush というものですが、『login sh を /bin/sh にしたとき』発生し、 /bin/csh なら発生しないのでした。 まだ、調べていないのですが、他の sh (例えば bash とか)でも 発生しないかもしれません。 これで、他の方々も再現できると思います。 問題は「何故？」ですが。 平林 浩一 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sun Oct 14 10:44:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2952A10CE52B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@mogami.com) Received: from mail.mogami.com (mail.mogami.com [122.103.163.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDA682D89 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@mogami.com) Received: from ana (ana [192.168.2.130]) by mail.mogami.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9A6618CC3A for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:44:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:44:10 +0900 From: Kouichi Hirabayashi To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20181014194410.b466d0bbf0e976ffbcab2969@mogami.com> Organization: MIT Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; i386-portbld-freebsd8.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96338] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRC0xMS4yIBskQiROGyhCIGphX0pQLmV1Y0pQ?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?IBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:44:19 -0000 やっと、問題の核心に近付いたようです。問題自体は 1) FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510 を ISO-IMAGES の CD-ROM からインストール 2) login 時に LC_ALL を ja_JP.eucJP に設定 (例えば /root/.profile の内容に LC_ALL のみ追加) 3) login して startx を実行 4) xterm で Alt-A とか Alt-B などをキー入力すると crush 5) xterm で date コマンドを実行し、その中の「日曜日」など を他の xterm に paste すると crush 6) kterm の場合も同じ というものですが、『login sh を /bin/sh にしたとき』発生し、 /bin/csh なら発生しないのでした。 login sh として bash を使っても、この問題はでないようです。 問題は「何故？」ですが。 平林 浩一 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Sun Oct 14 23:44:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9A810C8A78 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naito.yuichiro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x629.google.com (mail-pl1-x629.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::629]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB31A7B814 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naito.yuichiro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl1-x629.google.com with SMTP id 1-v6so8364580plv.7 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:43:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=LOAzzfELWnz8+GGTAH1LCaJP5h5SbW+dbbbAZbTVbXg=; b=qR5HW940xxNQz/V04QW166+Loq0zEFqYwIVLVuv7/9+HGCBccefpXhCEuo9nF/cVf6 kqfIwDCBDYvjpEEepFlGSGxIfDEZxLimqt6c19MQxNeZ3H9Y5xYMeOcXQ6J8iYvnJe/B nvpej/9RwGr6tMIhbmd6lnuMyQ8/gSQvTzxBdkInl1v/R8LEcaQv7cEMYnuhO5JFCA90 l4Jo6BnRvqKOsE8aV52I9gvrfwF1Oz7lBWkq9ihwsxY8UmEyNZ/oEHutziriQ63tyRVr JDf0Ya2V3ABIuY9G63AVd4p3z7DK1tEs62raIPZNyMXe6C8/9GQPMiV356c9j4iLbwtU EtKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=LOAzzfELWnz8+GGTAH1LCaJP5h5SbW+dbbbAZbTVbXg=; b=Nk6BzgXigD9E4Fx2tyuhJyayhri1HtYGqiWzzURWKvhAYpD+rDNiuJMQa3vvTM1kwt XfPJ+0qbwW3wybTYj8mi/H8tsvtnws0tLkvhhJgePXPKENFHV06IxVse8ZYQOWgHOdI/ UANk8CylQBiOH6ph3dF4CV+ipXezO8F5fSHCuVsqXOsak7rut1xa1WBgBYtnLdQANO3H jzIuQxjVRFyW9H/aGSYV6Q4mObiDFGauxzEOWloVVA3w2zeK1/kIRoG/UKy+hTKJAjRb ehl2uLMGh9ebA4nm1yy3syBOsT3XDu/4DsxtOcOpKMLHlTsBZ7XzuQUh5/ukru86UQ3q 7lfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog0S+q3OEXcX+0URzCwaLvVqPsdVmUVp02J9ku81pyV8v4qxwL0 +x/VAmHosuF4T6dxwrMa+qFqQWxu X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60Ovt66Sfn516VOaripnnagz0SUXJI6lQBdUBQABa5XfcD6xHlv/igFL8dAtjYvZmRv2J0gMQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:6843:: with SMTP id f3-v6mr14754045pln.64.1539560638426; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2400:2410:c120:8d00:92:6c93:21:2aff? 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<20181014094631.e982d0de643befc1a8ec208a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <201810140530.w9E5U7AW013789@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96340] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRCAxMRskQiRHJE4bKEJWVBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEskRCQkJEYbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:39:45 -0000 広島のISHIIと申します。 On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:30:07 +0900 201810140530.w9E5U7AW013789@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp : Hisao Osawa wrote: > Xが起動していなければAlt+F?でコンソール切り替えができるのですが、 > X起動中にはうまくいかないのでnvidia-driverとビデオカードの > 組み合わせで起こっているっていうことなんでしょうね。 私も随分悩みました。 私の場合、試行錯誤の結果、 /boot//loadre.conf　に、 hw.vga.textmode="1" を書き加えることでしのいでいます。 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<8ABC790B-1AA9-4531-9781-95C1AC397E5E@gmail.com> <201810130907.w9D97lWG013767@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <20181014094631.e982d0de643befc1a8ec208a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <201810140530.w9E5U7AW013789@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp> <20181016223940.cf43fdfdb8d9f41ccdd0948b@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/26 (amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96341] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZUJTRCAxMRskQiRHJE4bKEJWVBskQjRENi0bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEskRCQkJEYbKEI=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 04:08:01 -0000 大澤です。 ISHIIさん、ありがとうございます。 > /boot//loadre.conf　に、 > hw.vga.textmode="1" これも、手ですね。 nvidia-driverの最新版で一通りのオプションを試してみましたが、 どれもだめでした。 しばらくは教えていただいた方法でしのぎます。 大澤 On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:39:39 +0900, ISHII@広島 wrote: > > 広島のISHIIと申します。 > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:30:07 +0900 > 201810140530.w9E5U7AW013789@smtp-tcm.basmail.jp : Hisao Osawa > wrote: > > > Xが起動していなければAlt+F?でコンソール切り替えができるのですが、 > > X起動中にはうまくいかないのでnvidia-driverとビデオカードの > > 組み合わせで起こっているっていうことなんでしょうね。 > > 私も随分悩みました。 > 私の場合、試行錯誤の結果、 > /boot//loadre.conf　に、 > hw.vga.textmode="1" > を書き加えることでしのいでいます。 > > ISHII@広島 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users-jp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-users-jp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >