From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Jan 6 08:33:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB48143F68E for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7E068570 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DF814884; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x068XTej093112 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:33:29 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x068XTRS093111; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:33:29 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Alexander Leidinger , Alexander Leidinger via freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Strategic Thinking (was: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components) In-reply-to: <20190105120606.Horde.uAUbjCtZfZHG93S2hfmiOCc@webmail.leidinger.net> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201901042219.x04MJf4w085379@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <79545.1546641751@critter.freebsd.dk> <20190105120606.Horde.uAUbjCtZfZHG93S2hfmiOCc@webmail.leidinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <93109.1546763609.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 08:33:29 +0000 Message-ID: <93110.1546763609@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2B7E068570 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.84)[0.843,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.49)[0.488,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[phk.freebsd.dk]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.818,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[asn: 1835(0.50), country: EU(-0.00)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 08:33:40 -0000 -------- In message <20190105120606.Horde.uAUbjCtZfZHG93S2hfmiOCc@webmail.leidinger= .net>, Alexander Leidinger via freebsd-hackers writes: >> Data-centers are booooring! > >Which means that x developers with commit bits in FreeBSD are free to = >develop whatever they want. No, *all* developers with or without commit bits in FreeBSD are free to develop whatever they want. Some of them care about datacenters, and thats *fine*, some of them care about embedded, and thats *fine* and some of them care about laptops, and thats *fine* and so on. The FreeBSD releases contain exactly, and no more or no less, than what people put into them, for whatever reason they put it in. Now, can we drop this inane thread, and check the "At least one Bikeshed" box on the 2019 TODO list, and get back to coding ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .