From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mon Feb 25 14:38:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A7150C312; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D0328F89B; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gyHOp-0003He-WA; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:38:32 +0100 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gyHOp-0007Pz-TQ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:38:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:38:31 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Michael Gmelin Subject: mini-laptop / netbook for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20190225143831.GA11653@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael Gmelin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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I'm looking for an successor device with more or less the same technical specification: - 11.6" high res display (1024x768) - 4 GByte RAM - 2 CPU, each 1.4 GHz - 256 GByte SSD - Wifi (supported in CURRENT) - Touchpad, USB 3.0, HDMI Any ideas or proposals to test? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Tue Feb 26 05:37:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EFC150BEE3; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B479A6BEE0; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gyVQn-0006gU-MZ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 06:37:30 +0100 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gyVQn-0004jW-Hp; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 06:37:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 06:37:29 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Michael Gmelin Subject: Re: mini-laptop / netbook for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20190226053729.GA13605@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael Gmelin References: <20190225143831.GA11653@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20190225143831.GA11653@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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I'm looking for an > successor device with more or less the same technical specification: > > - 11.6" high res display (1024x768) > - 4 GByte RAM > - 2 CPU, each 1.4 GHz added: amd64 > - 256 GByte SSD > - Wifi (supported in CURRENT) > - Touchpad, USB 3.0, HDMI > > Any ideas or proposals to test? Thanks These Acer C720, also called Chromebook, have been sold for around 200 Euro. I've bought two of them, and later one more as 2nd hand for half of this price. They could not boot any other OS, like Linux or FreeBSD, only CHromeOS. But the work of Michael and other made them to a general purpose netbook. Something in this direction I'm hunting for. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub October, 7 -- The GDR was different: Peace instead of Bundeswehr and wars, Druschba instead of Nazis, to live instead of to survive. From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Tue Feb 26 18:53:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9311522CBE; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9828F6DBCC; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1QIrd4x095583 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:53:45 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1QIrXQq055100 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:53:33 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x1QIrXXW055099; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:53:33 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:53:33 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael Gmelin Subject: Re: mini-laptop / netbook for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20190226185333.GD6635@server.rulingia.com> References: <20190225143831.GA11653@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20190226053729.GA13605@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190226053729.GA13605@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:53:51 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-Feb-26 06:37:29 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: >These Acer C720, also called Chromebook, have been sold for around 200 Eur= o. >I've bought two of them, and later one more as 2nd hand for half of this >price. They could not boot any other OS, like Linux or FreeBSD, only >CHromeOS. But the work of Michael and other made them to a general >purpose netbook. Something in this direction I'm hunting for. There are a fairly wide range of Chromebooks still around. Most are now x86 based. ChromeOS is based on Linux so it may be possible to find the source for drivers for any hardware not supported by FreeBSD. 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