From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 10 12:58:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD491532802 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 12:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (smtp1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8812D752D5 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 12:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 921DF144B4B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:58:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:58:30 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: 29U3+T9Y2cJi01xF23SKyBtoLoOAJ5gntexpi7eE+vmQdeRgnff3zwmoEMS bhqH6Itu+p9nAC1qTW4ScJsK0vXn3DKNy+WCx From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:58:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: Barebone kernel options request X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: COMS/EA14.11/r20171018 Message-ID: X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrgeeggdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvfffurfggoffkpfgtsegrtddtreertdejnecuhfhrohhmpehsrghmihhrrdhothhmrghnvgesnhhumhgvrhhitggrsghlvgdrfhhrnecuffhomhgrihhnpehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgnecukfhppeekjedrvdefuddrgedrudekfeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8812D752D5 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.860,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mta.numericable.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.88)[0.878,0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.936,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[37.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[183.4.231.87.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 12:58:41 -0000 Hello everyone, For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( For i= nstance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted overhead ), b= ut i don't know how to do so. 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I'm looking towards an answer for it thank you in advance Samir From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 10 13:09:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744D31532E27 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (smtp1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CF1F758BC for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B524144690 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:30 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: OfXPsxgCug+Q80maoeSlcqvw5WGcL+wQrHFooXGns69Y34g6iV7GgssNjfw qO8/gtIPFcq9jn8NUZRNh9GEnfYR1KI+LQ7hD From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: Barebone kernel options request X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: COMS/EA14.11/r20171018 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrgeeggdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvfffurfggoffkpfgtgfesthhqtddtredtudenucfhrhhomhepshgrmhhirhdrohhtmhgrnhgvsehnuhhmvghrihgtrggslhgvrdhfrhenucffohhmrghinhepfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghenucfkphepkeejrddvfedurdegrddukeefnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9CF1F758BC X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.39 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.01)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.799,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta.numericable.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.18)[0.185,0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.62)[0.617,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[183.4.231.87.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[37.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:32 -0000 Hello everyone, For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( For i= nstance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted overhead ), b= ut i don't know how to do so. IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsrc.conf )= but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. I'm looking towards an answer for it Thank you in advance Samir From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 10 22:21:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF9D1544049 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay3-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay3-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.184]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1AA86A20A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=+cq0ZiJ0KzQ/VthIqPieq63hs0cTJxQCc3GyC7VY2p4=; b=nWx8UqXVIv+2alSFmfS2CALbdtsOsyiDadr8TaHeAY0JbgbNlRQW0SEg5ne1e7bioK2SKSpsbVKIy ws1jFKcvZrTWVuMLdSwByqN1xo9D/r8Sg9CLs89HGoJnGt8ZbtF+9mHdRjlzwSWxKx34JjX3z0nQZM U1g4ZAm0SBJCYUmM= X-HalOne-Cookie: 70c4355bf4e90f6a827dcd9556bead846c1165fb X-HalOne-ID: a298b3cd-4380-11e9-9a3a-d0431ea8bb03 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.165.244.175]) by mailrelay3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id a298b3cd-4380-11e9-9a3a-d0431ea8bb03; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4bd5b97f171389bb7b7f18ed2b2a50ba4d266907.camel@smormegpa.no> Subject: Re: Barebone kernel options request From: Matthias Oestreicher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:05:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A1AA86A20A X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=nWx8UqXV X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.954,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.936,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx2.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx3.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[184.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.86)[0.864,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.64)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.87), asn: 51468(1.34), country: DK(-0.04)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:21:52 -0000 Am Sonntag, den 10.03.2019, 13:58 +0100 schrieb samir.otmane@numericable.fr: > Hello everyone, > > > For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( > For instance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted > overhead ), but i don't know how to do so. > > > > IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. > > > > I found that page ( > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=src.conf ) but it only > disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. > > > > I'm looking towards an answer for it > > > > thank you in advance > > > > Samir Hei Samir, I guess what you want is this https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html In /usr/src/sys//conf/MINIMAL you already have a very stripped down kernel configuration file. I haven't build this myself though. The kernel FreeBSD runs on by default is, what you would end up if you build the GENERIC kernel. Really, nowadays you must to be extremely low on recources to feel a differnce between GENERIC or something you stripped down. But if you want to try it, go on. If you got a bit of knowledge about hardware drivers, buses etc it will definetely help. Basically, edit GENERIC, strip out the masses of raid controller and network interfaces that you don't need and build it. That's a good start to learn. Read the comments on each line! Don't touch anything that has "bus" in it's device name or comment if your are unexperienced, e.g. scbus or miibus. The latter is listed with the network interface drivers, but it's a bus that many cheap network interfaces depend on. You may savely remove parallel port bus though 😉 In the end, you should clearly know what FreeBSD needs to run and what you need/want. That depends heavily on the hard- and software setup you are going to run. There is also a ../../conf/NOTES as mentioned in the header of GENERIC that has very exaustive comments. Though I find them more useful if you want a add something. The most important comments are in the GENERIC config file. Best Regards, Matthias > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Med vennlig hilsen Matthias Oestreicher Industri- og produksjonsservice Oestreicher Solsletta 34 4658 Tveit t: (+47) 41 18 44 18 m: matthias@inpros.no w: www.inpros.no From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 10 13:09:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F181532E29 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (smtp1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C71D758BF for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EB71144690 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:37 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: KAqt3mZaJN9BoJoj8YAP6tWOStIa5owDX6JzueXZyC9swHNgJLKrIdwAEfX FSZ0ZiE1A5Q4envlW1KdTEH6gRl1CZkTSnZda From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:09:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: Barebone kernel options request X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: COMS/EA14.11/r20171018 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrgeeggdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvfffurfggoffkpfgtgfesthhqtddtredtudenucfhrhhomhepshgrmhhirhdrohhtmhgrnhgvsehnuhhmvghrihgtrggslhgvrdhfrhenucffohhmrghinhepfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghenucfkphepkeejrddvfedurdegrddukeefnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6C71D758BF X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.39 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[37.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.01)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.799,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta.numericable.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.18)[0.185,0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.62)[0.617,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[183.4.231.87.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:09:39 -0000 Hello everyone, For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( For i= nstance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted overhead ), b= ut i don't know how to do so. IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsrc.conf )= but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. I'm looking towards an answer for it Thank you in advance Samir From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 07:08:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C191B1533E21 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A9C686694 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.208.84]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N32y5-1gw3KC0gHd-013Oaz; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:07:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:07:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: samir.otmane@numericable.fr Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Barebone kernel options request Message-Id: <20190311080756.6191bb55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:U8HjbL4EKI8J5oP755YYp3pN0qpPxsY0DCAxU6hfIByIbdM+Ast 1yUFDSsH4nTt02CdUit6u84s2GTEBYMOn03Ylmp9UkJ7fOMm7vKzV5AIv1LXqfW9uDP5ygt ANgW7FF9i2ig/NMPR1KqZ3T2mUg5xDtJKQPL0YGeJ5F2blQ9p/5eH4OuAKmP5C+3OF8Kh8j ILpyg8XDc/hMqI3UnHtbA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cSDT0JVC1Ds=:/We/j7OtcO+I/ppFXnKhMe 5TLnCNKLPRAoTabTfFkZTEOr0otGizZ1R2KLU7ueA13FssRY/AurCV+Nxg4ELBeN3PleGva5L P0gzw7TnCnctA3/J5AE2gofC2bAw3yp3vzvz3JnpBCNIpSNfjCozSPJWwld2r+bT04lbilcDh xYbXaQvDmEZL35/y+xnsKjXJk9LB9vIY3Sduv6xZV1r6zEUKvw07SXOZQzC448e49517M05ab ZbSKU6LHgaUi7+bradw9dvQJxO1E2md45yjLWWHr+wCYc2lOIdCcgMDnGa2lAW7lwt1E7wEXt RRAbQwd9Cxl7a8QEr3qPsQ6mCbDug+yEmhMJWXsyGAp6DtJbZB55/Jp/iAfxx891iLEN8fZRR ol+LEHWImdFmAeytpF/D/fedQF3wG7XyAr1Qdy9iXrilIZqBxV6FrBxrvssANVJw9TcUUbHIW g06xOo9haehBRbQqfJFxliNCoGh30saJmxaKw1nToBfjtV3K7SgKaC0hjjqiUaNtBEhgj7jec lH5OG8YNoFs29VBHS7o6ViQOIL6lMWATocl6vAmnt6K4OAHr5tLIUOAuhSGbJum/n7yHNk0dg K0WvAQ5tB1utlWl3E1FmIouk3HQzOWc+kXwWqN54dVir43vou6BsaZrvN7Ge1u6Kuplei0Gsh hU9KHm6bmo1M5ucc6Gt/FM/TJ0AUTZrkXdCfH7ERVWaxcf4JO5PEszFMV/U92zSDxFwn6gMpK v9QMxB0vjCxABiHCpUCwmCI/RuGTz1Vq1ukN4iuX4WeeHszDQP3X1FG1Dhg= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3A9C686694 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.16 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.79)[ip: (3.27), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.04), asn: 8560(1.73), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[84.208.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.986,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.991,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:08:06 -0000 On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:58:30 +0100 (CET), samir.otmane@numericable.fr wrote: > For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel > ( For instance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted > overhead ), but i don't know how to do so. > > > > IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. Not really. :-) First of all, read chapter 8, "Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel" in The FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do not need. Then you can go ahead and build a kernel based on that configuration file, install it, and boot it. Pay attention to the correct version match of source, world, and kernel on your system. Also read the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile, it contains a nice summary of build targets. You will also find further instructions in "man 7 build". I've been following the tradition of a custom kernel for many years in the past, especially for performance and speed reasons, as well as for following the mindset "I don't have it, therefore I don't need it". Today, this doesn't seem to be a valid reason anymore, but you can always cite security considerations... ;-) Sometimes people will tell you: "Don't write your own configuration file by altering a copy of GENERIC; instead just include GENERIC, add what you want to add, and use nodevice and nooption for what you don't want from GENERIC." Personally, I think this will cause much more work if your goal is to _reduce_ the kernel, instead of just inflating it with additional stuff. But of course, that method will work, too. > I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=src.conf ) > but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. That is correct. The /etc/src.conf file's purpose is to control the build caused by "make buildworld" and has little effect on the kernel - you can use it to avoid building certain kernel modules, though. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Regards, Alex Leo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 08:40:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6EF1537785 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C64E8A78E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.208.84]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M9Fvl-1h6GcE438x-006KAl; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:40:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:40:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Alexandre Leonenko Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Automatic unencryption using /etc/fstab Message-Id: <20190311094020.12d9aad9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:AdbitKHnuh4mzm5d2Hkg7ecPzq4uBEguB8FYJiIaOmnXyL7o29e ayqx3EzJQ75ok0T+6LNWhZBCybu8sMHDrF4aTaLvzRj6jQH9zwSZ1UWf8J2oyRyccBI/Syz q4jZnRW4l885wvuUlK1cTU7WedWkEAoSvWitEkoY8rtVOvlbRNH1Vk3jHDXPcc6Wp0Et+XH fqGVK7a9seFdeSaypq+sw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:scetm5lPxUs=:OODdwkWC2zcMSkaLJKGfZb ODeUoYf3sVPmQnUtswqFJGj8Tpab1EXigIPLFNYLkrwA7cXCbNED975mHgejelfNp4tdOLuoC 1BTYLbV12eb/SbtZdkvlVas8IPskJDNneb5Tkf3idopK+mY0f/hvWblXBk4WAzjPR+FYUY2I9 2sK6kumA0ld3IdYQsP4PYFRVjl3iD5Cszzh0u9J0SkFp7/zqBI05TV14SFq3vt4YAIAi6ppxh 9J4VRAw6bhtuamx5tJawIfe5RpESEfTGw2zpfKSY/Lr+BV7eDZ+fFKgmTcrn6PvPOJbNPnq7m PoTKLHUxOrGsTJPRf5AqkJxoo+9hDbl+tA/nyciH0cTd40/D4iWz6OpISxu0FxoZekVvLJpOY 4+UB1aPgtkqxFng2X6LPlw0VYvH4XudUyTptTy2ukIVnxKEfGFLP2SPnWg9gC0mGFZrSx5xFv Mgo7a9MxklhDixtILFDR8bDcyecDl/mPf2itULgHxXVyMNhc0CbVs2IodILseNYQpGxVvdDl5 cIo7V+IzZkzHPwoWa4g6C3z1fDYn8p1v6ZBw2WvzmZ51nJ28zCfrLTnuVAOMLKKUFP5aIyy+S F/UJmHyf9ZFfI+WmtmWgFLsT5PSZKXdSEmD2C7keJrojY4WsQz8TkMvJlHd8TbsXO/679nULC CfoRZT6vqh6UPxvPNGJlSLjfHWb8kzklmCuS8OSkgUYrVwAaIwgHxJlH3MuVjqQnFz1kVf3s4 kb6KXa451XfnWmhw0dkKl49WUTiEwki5cE8dutXhrs/ASZ1C/oe4xp1DYbc= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5C64E8A78E X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.14 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[84.208.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.84)[0.842,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.71)[0.712,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.963,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.23)[ip: (0.49), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.04), asn: 8560(1.73), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:40:32 -0000 On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:20:46 +0000, Alexandre Leonenko wrote: > Is it possible to use /etc/fstab to point to encryption key file > to unencrypt a second drive on boot up? > > The idea that / root is already encrypted and the file will be > as well. I want to avoid entering passwords multiple time for > few different drives. > > I know Linux can already do that with the LUKS encryption and > was wondering if same thing is possible on FreeBSD. I think FreeBSD supports this approach natively for decades now. Check "18.12.2. Disk Encryption with geli" in The FreeBSD Handbook: https://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/doc/handbook/disks-encrypting.html It is possible to use a key file without a passphrase and use it in an automatic decrypt + mount scenario, but be aware of the security implications. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I want to avoid entering passwords multiple time for > few different drives. > > I know Linux can already do that with the LUKS encryption and > was wondering if same thing is possible on FreeBSD. I think FreeBSD supports this approach natively for decades now. Check "18.12.2. Disk Encryption with geli" in The FreeBSD Handbook: https://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/doc/handbook/disks-encrypting.html It is possible to use a key file without a passphrase and use it in an automatic decrypt + mount scenario, but be aware of the security implications. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 12:15:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CEC154084A for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (smtp7.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B5C393BB5 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E52363095; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:15:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:15:14 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: 4hIgGSXLR03jPO3sNkUFSybI7lW6pXQnT/xokxZoRLBf4Y97Zm7ynP1oJ+k JrBUgvMKJd5RHJLDRcVo+VeC+fsmMeyaq8iTm From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: "Polytropon" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:15:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Re: Barebone kernel options request X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: COMS/EA14.11/r20171018 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20190311080756.6191bb55.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrgeeigdegtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvfffurfggoffkjggtgfesthhqtddtredtudenucfhrhhomhepshgrmhhirhdrohhtmhgrnhgvsehnuhhmvghrihgtrggslhgvrdhfrhenucffohhmrghinhepfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghenucfkphepkeejrddvfedurdegrddukeefnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9B5C393BB5 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.01)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.85)[0.852,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.85)[0.854,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta.numericable.fr]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.05)[0.051,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[43.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[183.4.231.87.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:15:18 -0000 Sorry I misspoke, there's things in kernel-land that i'd like to avoid but = i've seen no options so far for it. (like as it could be nooptions JAIL) I'm already aware of kernel configuration file, i'm just asking if one can= help to get like that (some kind of patch that would add code like #ifdef = JAIL ... #endif). ---- Message d'origine ---- De : "Polytropon" =C0 : samir.otmane@numericable.fr Objet : Re: Barebone kernel options request Date : 11/03/2019 08:07:56 CET Copie =E0 : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:58:30 +0100 (CET), samir.otmane@numericable.fr wrot= e: > For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel > ( For instance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted > overhead ), but i don't know how to do so. >=20 >=20 >=20 > IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. Not really. :-) First of all, read chapter 8, "Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel" in The FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do not need. Then you can go ahead and build a kernel based on that configuration file, install it, and boot it. Pay attention to the correct version match of source, world, and kernel on your system. Also read the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile, it contains a nice summary of build targets. You will also find further instructions in "man 7 build". I've been following the tradition of a custom kernel for many years in the past, especially for performance and speed reasons, as well as for following the mindset "I don't have it, therefore I don't need it". Today, this doesn't seem to be a valid reason anymore, but you can always cite security considerations... ;-) Sometimes people will tell you: "Don't write your own configuration file by altering a copy of GENERIC; instead just include GENERIC, add what you want to add, and use nodevice and nooption for what you don't want from GENERIC." Personally, I think this will cause much more work if your goal is to _reduce_ the kernel, instead of just inflating it with additional stuff. But of course, that method will work, too. > I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsrc.conf= ) > but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. That is correct. The /etc/src.conf file's purpose is to control the build caused by "make buildworld" and has little effect on the kernel - you can use it to avoid building certain kernel modules, though. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 10:52:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52720153CDAC; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1074890918; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[25.123.147.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:52:05 -0000 Hi, [context is building ports with poudriere. I need to keep these ports to maintain a legacy platform] The 'default' for php is now 72. It was 71 and before that, 56. How does one configure the 'default'. I can do it via make.conf like this: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= php=5.6 php=56 and update my ports tree to 488740 but if I do this, I'll still get this error in poudriere logs for phpmyadmin: [00:00:03] Warning: (databases/phpmyadmin): Error: databases/phpmyadmin depends on nonexistent origin 'textproc/php72-xml' (moved to ); Please contact maintainer of the port to fix this. How can I fix this? thanks, -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 10 23:54:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22871517A74 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C190C6DA8F for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 37wRhe16Jsism37wThC0az; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:33:18 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bluetooth firmware? 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Both load rtl8821c_fw.bin and rtl8821c_config.bin and Bluetooth works in both cases. Are these two binaries available under FreeBSD? How do I load them? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 05:32:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219231530ACE for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 05:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x841.google.com (mail-qt1-x841.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::841]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8278C82F23 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 05:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x841.google.com with SMTP id b16so2661283qtt.2 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:32:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yA3XXJ7Xjr3i4XeTUZ9/Plud/h1K/gWw54QPDwi3MEI=; b=gBb7/RYSnc97Blgb3AeBDRH9uClnmISCazkRXmVwYm/RuHNo/pgdsFbiudy9Wpcs4v C7bUk5T+5N7d9CKBl1ORrqQ0xyNWLjQNjc0UccEzsLFVFAtfdJwkXYL3mSqYBGzT8F+u dkR0gqC11+MjVuudD49tB8m+Wz8YqdEPmv8bZQ58psBZQhPIwDBrSoD59MnjXaWJmQro U7BBh6UW9eWyJASCCW5lVwlY4ezKIvrTejpDYjQ/EW7sYKe38Wlho8ptpWF7jBmXvxLm GCho2vrrgOXXZpXbtT81LOyo+J80RdCe2ywwKhjGlBfSlGwZB89uDJbvCff0Z2lLS28t IAQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yA3XXJ7Xjr3i4XeTUZ9/Plud/h1K/gWw54QPDwi3MEI=; b=PdIrF3Yo8u0/LxqCVO/qWlvuvHZvECGJXBhkuD4v1I9wf6RwnkwcHauSRttWPEwX6m Y0z2vLAJX2WWl3cK49dwJwd0sl5jvGXuAdmq+3KRCSN+zcNJS4d4lL2Yl9iA8TpgYYei tiOEAKkXZZav436MElyOwsZDUcPj8+OOUKTjtk+CANB5ToqLBRvy5nI0P66D7SE5hLz9 gENwwBjLW0fIJNHsu188KN1kE7mA59/qBEDZVYiP7QnWZHU+4UAh5Lf3/L+RMdCYIH07 W607CXCTAWXfaib+9K+ICV4QN2u82SrLj+RZVZUQwRB++lEx5UTKr8IUPOp4Jos5D/08 EXKw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX00O1Ftg24XMSwvx+HX/udHa7mMeWtwr6gqUQMDuT+PY5pTucc fk1Af8ZcCA3MkO0l46pyHtwdSgswFTdjYmDPwrSCmw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwgoRVGfa3mWoKBXkSARmPFd0+hyiSoxPQ+okNIad9B9F4hc4OOeB3cwaqe+VeUcv3MkyoLR0XkOTs5wEW/IwM= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:c707:: with SMTP id w7mr791111qvi.42.1552282328259; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:32:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190311023130.GA3936@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20190311023130.GA3936@neutralgood.org> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Barebone kernel options request To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: samir.otmane@numericable.fr, FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8278C82F23 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=gBb7/RYS X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.916,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tenebras.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.51)[0.509,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.52)[ip: (2.26), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.74), asn: 15169(-2.07), country: US(-0.07)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 05:32:11 -0000 My preference for doing this is as follows: Boot from GENERIC w/kernel modules present Record /var/run/dmesg.boot Add all the devices you wish to support (as probed above) in the kernconf. Make sure you include the disk and network drivers for your hardware. Things tend not to work without them. The custom kernconf goes in /usr/src/sys/{arch}/conf, in my case /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf then # cd /usr/src # make kernel # shutdown -r now Just as an example... this is for my pcengines boxen... my /etc/make.conf has KERNCONF=3DMAMELON_NO_IPV6 NO_MODULES=3DTRUE WITHOUT_KERNEL_SYMBOLS=3Dyes And my kernconf has cpu HAMMER ident MAMELON # /etc/make.conf should have: # KERNCONF=3DMAMELON # NO_MODULES=3DTRUE options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking ###########################################################################= ##### # no ipv6 here #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols ###########################################################################= ##### options IPSEC # IP (v4/v6) security options TCP_OFFLOAD # TCP offload options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options QUOTA # Enable disk quotas for UFS options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options TMPFS options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_ELI options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options SCSI_DELAY=3D5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SC= SI options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options HWPMC_HOOKS # Necessary kernel hooks for hwpmc(4) options CAPABILITY_MODE # Capsicum capability mode options CAPABILITIES # Capsicum capabilities options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options RCTL # Resource limits options RACCT options COMPAT_LINUX32 options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options DEVICE_NUMA # I/O Device Affinity options EARLY_AP_STARTUP device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers device uart # Generic UART driver options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_NAT options LIBALIAS options DUMMYNET options ROUTETABLES=3D16 device cpufreq device coretemp device amdtemp # Bus support. device acpi options ACPI_DMAR device pci device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) device ses # Enclosure Services (SES and SAF-TE) device ctl # CAM Target Layer # crypto support device crypto device cryptodev device igb # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer # vt is the new video console driver device vt device vt_vga device vt_efifb # MMC/SD device mmc # MMC/SD bus device mmcsd # MMC/SD memory card device sdhci # Generic PCI SD Host Controller # USB support options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) device ukbd # Keyboard device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device uhid # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device padlock_rng # VIA Padlock RNG device rdrand_rng # Intel Bull Mountain RNG device ether # Ethernet support device vlan # 802.1Q VLAN support device tun # Packet tunnel. device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device firmware # firmware assist module device bpf # Berkeley packet filter On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:06 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 02:09:37PM +0100, samir.otmane@numericable.fr > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( Fo= r > instance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted overhead )= , > but i don't know how to do so. > > > > IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. > > > > I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsrc.con= f > ) but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. > > Three emails to the same list is two email too many. Just one email would > be sufficient, and if you get no response another single email a reasonab= le > period of time later. I don't know if this community has a definition of > "reasonable period of time", though. The LLVM community's is roughly "a > week or so". > > Anyway. On to business: > > What you want is to build a custom kernel. The GENERIC kernel config file > is, for the 64-bit amd64 host, located at: > /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC > > You didn't say what host, but the other hosts are at guessable locations > based on that path, and the filename to look for is "GENERIC". > > You'll need to copy that file and edit out the stuff you don't want. This > will probably take some research and trial and error. > > Note that this may not be granular enough. I don't know if you can remove > jailing, for example. But I don't know that jailing actually increases th= e > overhead in a measureable way if you aren't using it. So it may not be > worth your time to bother with it. This goes double if it requires specia= l > patches to the kernel that you have to maintain forever and incur the > cost forever. You'll need to do the cost/benefit analysis yourself. > > I don't know the current correct method of building custom kernels. It's > no doubt docuemented, and maybe someone will chime in here. > > -- > "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of > invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor ..= . > in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser ... in an irregular way > fascinating to cats,..." -- US patent 5443036, "Method of exercising a ca= t" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 08:38:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B051537703 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82B98A75D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id o7so4005970wrp.12 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 01:38:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=t3ImIqyabkzC+rTKpTjYP6xfmJpmMbUgzo1ojhAKvpo=; b=FctHhgyd1ydoDPE2QnTE8xBrBY3+xVGLEPSQeZx7sNM2vvidANYfEoCqT5loeTQDn/ ZoyG/FkMc+NVzNFARgD8C7UKwwuAShkZpQft8/jigv+D4FbLPnohU2T1T9yfZXiGOnX2 tlNxHmn8sADlCZrmTF8OEMBVoM5DB/FE9hNhT67MRySS7nBN+0Y+19pfOInvlMz1laT7 avju0S/i3brMMZu9lcpgwXGSIbuzL2/+goLMMsSYGo3wmAOJiXKvAXJ5NDRl13glZ3WN WdZkaotIlMnNwlAtmxlEQ1sLXcxhjciE9+s57ZYza/daI4P7TQNF0fZfFvaHyS1a7LNC KVMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=t3ImIqyabkzC+rTKpTjYP6xfmJpmMbUgzo1ojhAKvpo=; b=jYuh5TOur7r0c++G6py+3sBhC9jEypLuu90c/fRrEZLG58ER+ly3y+ezMSUCqVHaeX 3Lm6+CVw63MAHPtNqy7JmrpG4N0PPTDyi4SBe+2uAf6JXT4/y1yNgfTjyfYaj56Mwqn8 fLkF4LgK8r4MYcPI+bUgcT9ICC0AcqYxsLw6nnz66nkkMukGpJuv8UfGoRuXuKS5EMOz J/mF2zZAthfk6KS6lwS8PY/iN9qyyMHh3Ute7Al5dfK+2uHaGrK6EZDsve/CVwRxpu/5 zUDurcRrLS/i6TFffsh+Xx6/HuOnPvfLIWqYCHLhHGtvXwyq4BsXj9p8RPSLcZG13xjL LZkA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXprIkq3Ns1Xk2KREknRKz9P+hQnHU9RZQuGuXTFviub7W5z35c GvvDZze8W/or5boLXMLXjhX2QXwJbZKTCNca2NEwNg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw9kXdapZL2i2VyOdFToeu8Rtu6dcQ9FfnGMdUxb2qtw67iSfq25h0KQ+k2+Hyzbip4L4DKi1ICEoJ3NBGP6DU= X-Received: by 2002:adf:eb84:: with SMTP id t4mr20222992wrn.100.1552293497242; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 01:38:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5187660.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> In-Reply-To: <5187660.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:37:42 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bluetooth firmware? To: Steven Friedrich Cc: User Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A82B98A75D X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=FctHhgyd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::430 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=odhiambo@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.68 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.934,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.73)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.07), country: US(-0.07)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:38:20 -0000 On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 09:21, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I have an HP Slimline Desktop 290-p0014 > Intel core i7-8700 > Integrated Intel UHD Graphics > Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (1X1) and Bluetooth 4.2 M.2 > RealTek 8821 > FreeBSD FreeBSD.friedrich.org 12.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p3 > GENERIC > amd64 > > On this same machine, I also run Kubuntu 18.04.2 and Gentoo. > Both load rtl8821c_fw.bin and rtl8821c_config.bin > and Bluetooth works in both cases. > > Are these two binaries available under FreeBSD? How do I load them? > > When you load FreeBSD, do you see if it detects the card?? You can look at /var/run/dmesg.boot and share that? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 09:36:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6581539F0D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (smtp7.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF6E8D5DB for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8752E62DE2; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:36:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:36:17 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: iaExmoOrROw9Bt8TFKS63s6mBbLmkmycodYIWgKTT9bnHX6RUg77xSBUNpS UIe4tZJO66JTsfamNyzKa5CtnySutnxWU1qbN From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: "Kevin P. 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Actually my ISP webmail is kinda buggy, i apologize for multiple mail send= ing. I'm already aware of kernel compilation options through NOTES file, and ye= ah i'm using amd64 arch. As peoples told me and as i'm actually thinking of it is i might be a litt= le exaggerating about overhead stuff, but yet i'd like to choose what i wan= t to. Samir. ---- Message d'origine ---- De : "Kevin P. Neal" =C0 : samir.otmane@numericable.fr Objet : Re: Barebone kernel options request Date : 11/03/2019 03:31:30 CET Copie =E0 : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 02:09:37PM +0100, samir.otmane@numericable.fr wrot= e: > Hello everyone, >=20 > For my purpose, i would like to get a very barebone FreeBSD kernel ( For= instance i don't want jaling, i'll want to get rid of unwanted overhead ),= but i don't know how to do so. >=20 > IRC chatters told me that it would be very challenging to do so. >=20 > I found that page ( https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsrc.conf= ) but it only disables user-land program building, not kernel-land code. Three emails to the same list is two email too many. Just one email would be sufficient, and if you get no response another single email a reasonabl= e period of time later. I don't know if this community has a definition of "reasonable period of time", though. The LLVM community's is roughly "a week or so". Anyway. On to business: What you want is to build a custom kernel. The GENERIC kernel config file is, for the 64-bit amd64 host, located at: /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC You didn't say what host, but the other hosts are at guessable locations based on that path, and the filename to look for is "GENERIC". You'll need to copy that file and edit out the stuff you don't want. This will probably take some research and trial and error. Note that this may not be granular enough. I don't know if you can remove jailing, for example. But I don't know that jailing actually increases the overhead in a measureable way if you aren't using it. So it may not be worth your time to bother with it. This goes double if it requires special patches to the kernel that you have to maintain forever and incur the cost forever. You'll need to do the cost/benefit analysis yourself. I don't know the current correct method of building custom kernels. It's no doubt docuemented, and maybe someone will chime in here. --=20 "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor ... in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser ... in an irregular way fascinating to cats,..." -- US patent 5443036, "Method of exercising a cat= " _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 12:11:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBF11540690 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@transcriptionharbor.info) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A615C937A6 for ; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:08:57 -0000 Polytropon writes: > You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file > and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do > not need. Proceed with caution here. I do not know if it is currently true, but it has in the past been the case that (e.g.) option Q depends on device F which depends on device B; while the relationship between Q and F is documented in the config file, the one between F and B is not. The easy targets are disk(/RAID) drivers and network cards. After that? Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 13:43:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE149154393D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB3396919 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3419033C22; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 998F8150C488; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: samir.otmane@numericable.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Barebone kernel options request References: <20190311080756.6191bb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <23686.24032.265558.282058@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:35:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <23686.24032.265558.282058@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (Robert Huff's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:08:48 -0400") Message-ID: <44lg1lbkjm.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5AB3396919 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.37)[0.369,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.07)[-0.072,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.57)[0.571,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.09)[ip: (0.09), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.07), asn: 7922(-0.55), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:43:17 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > Polytropon writes: > >> You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file >> and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do >> not need. > > Proceed with caution here. > I do not know if it is currently true, but it has in the past > been the case that (e.g.) option Q depends on device F which depends > on device B; while the relationship between Q and F is documented in > the config file, the one between F and B is not. > The easy targets are disk(/RAID) drivers and network cards. > After that? Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. Furthermore, just because there isn't a dependency today doesn't mean there won't be one next year. This doesn't happen often, and it can still happen if you go the nodevice route, but it's still a bit safer to include all of GENERIC and remove things from there. 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Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff Just out of some sort of morbid curiosity, I would be interested in knowing exactly what problem the OP is trying to correct or alleviate here. If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful machine. "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 14:31:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B201544F64 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (smtp1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB96269DE3 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samir.otmane@numericable.fr) Received: from mowmail-nc1.nc.sdv.fr (mowmail-nc1.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.101]) by smtp1.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B70DC145511; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:30:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [87.231.4.183] by webmail.numericable.fr with http webmail; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:30:58 +0100 (CET) X-EA-Auth: m5ZfLon1sEftB5CFyKExrpieSX94CJXwhNDsUnv2tlh90xAxP0+JYXbWzzw VgQWLHJILfZgbSGyLswzHnZXGC+BAB5zaWfTS From: samir.otmane@numericable.fr To: "Carmel NY" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:30:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Re: Barebone kernel options request X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: COMS/EA14.11/r20171018 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrgeeigdeigecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfffuffrggfokfgjtgfgsehtqhdttdertddunecuhfhrohhmpehsrghmihhrrdhothhmrghnvgesnhhumhgvrhhitggrsghlvgdrfhhrnecuffhomhgrihhnpehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgnecukfhppeekjedrvdefuddrgedrudekfeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AB96269DE3 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.905,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.30)[-0.301,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.960,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mta.numericable.fr]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[outlook.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[37.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[183.4.231.87.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:31:08 -0000 Not really related about hardware, i just don't like being enforced feature= s that i don't need/want of, yet i understand that there will *might* not b= e noticeable performance impact upon keeping/get rid of some features. ---- Message d'origine ---- De : "Carmel NY" =C0 : "FreeBSD" Objet : Re: Barebone kernel options request Date : 11/03/2019 14:54:48 CET On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:08:48 -0400, Robert Huff stated: >Polytropon writes: > >> You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file >> and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do >> not need.=20 > > Proceed with caution here. > I do not know if it is currently true, but it has in the past >been the case that (e.g.) option Q depends on device F which depends >on device B; while the relationship between Q and F is documented in >the config file, the one between F and B is not. > The easy targets are disk(/RAID) drivers and network cards. >After that? Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff Just out of some sort of morbid curiosity, I would be interested in knowing exactly what problem the OP is trying to correct or alleviate here. If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful machine. 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DMARC_NA(0.00)[numericable.fr]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.74)[0.742,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta.numericable.fr]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[outlook.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.111.216.82.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21502, ipnet:82.216.0.0/17, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:41:47 -0000 >Not really related about hardware, i just don't like being enforced >features that i don't need/want of, yet i understand that there will >*might* not be noticeable performance impact upon keeping/get rid of >some features. > > >---- Message d'origine ---- >De : "Carmel NY" >=C0 : "FreeBSD" >Objet : Re: Barebone kernel options request >Date : 11/03/2019 14:54:48 CET > >On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:08:48 -0400, Robert Huff stated: > >>Polytropon writes: >>=20 >>> You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file >>> and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do >>> not need.=20 >> >> Proceed with caution here. >> I do not know if it is currently true, but it has in the past >>been the case that (e.g.) option Q depends on device F which depends >>on device B; while the relationship between Q and F is documented in >>the config file, the one between F and B is not. >> The easy targets are disk(/RAID) drivers and network cards. >>After that? Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> Robert Huff=20 > >Just out of some sort of morbid curiosity, I would be interested in >knowing exactly what problem the OP is trying to correct or alleviate >here. If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the >limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful >machine. "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." > samir.otmane@numericable, could we retire the "Top Posting" technique? --=20 Carmel Sure, i'm sorry for the inconvenience (As i'm not used to mailing list pos= ting-style) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 15:56:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E7C152455A for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7526E6D376 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2698F2D97 for ; 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If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the >limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful >machine. "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." I dunno if this applies to the OP but I also compile custom kernels and world for some machines. My basic reasons: 1. I want available only what is needed, for the os/machine's purpose, so that there's more resources for the machine's job. Each disabled option means that some resource of some type, however tiny, becomes available. These add up. 2. Having only what you need means you have less to maintain, which is important for security. I guess it makes the "vulnerability surface" smaller, at least in theory. 3. It might be the case that the machine I'm maintaining isn't mine, so the option to "buy better hardware" is out of the question. Being able to tailor the OS for exactly the requirement in hand is a major plus point in favour of FreeBSD for me. point #2 above is particularly relevant for an internet-facing machine. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 15:58:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD6F15246D4 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay2-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay2-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 971066D4C7 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=0guAiayGgzT/+yiyiqzGCBYTGuL2QVEpRNb87eRJQ7w=; b=AaJaJE09OBH5/bm1jLVESb2GFbiN2wA3OCqKoUqWdGk6F1709VV7ZGI1mu3QQXoR9fB+uooKvrOB0 oJMGcBwLvVtn0mvSde/Q+WtX7FHJ9xMzr0qZeJrQOdqu5rKxVy3m7xnEbJF2gW6jcNGfNlom9CyzV/ 2UDWpgFJIebPxmYM= X-HalOne-Cookie: 4a2f7be22b1c1956ac61f3c2a17c03cc1c644592 X-HalOne-ID: 50a59a12-4414-11e9-b2e4-d0431ea8a290 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.165.244.175]) by mailrelay2.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 50a59a12-4414-11e9-b2e4-d0431ea8a290; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Barebone kernel options request From: Matthias Oestreicher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:42:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 971066D4C7 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=AaJaJE09 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.980,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.862,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[183.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.67)[0.670,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.60)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.77), asn: 51468(1.28), country: DK(-0.04)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:59 -0000 Am Montag, den 11.03.2019, 15:30 +0100 schrieb samir.otmane@numericable.fr: > Not really related about hardware, i just don't like being enforced features that i > don't need/want of, yet i understand that there will *might* not be noticeable > performance impact upon keeping/get rid of some features. > > > ---- Message d'origine ---- > De : "Carmel NY" > À : "FreeBSD" > Objet : Re: Barebone kernel options request > Date : 11/03/2019 14:54:48 CET > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:08:48 -0400, Robert Huff stated: > > > Polytropon writes: > > > > > You will then make a copy of the GENERIC kernel configuration file > > > and adjust it to your needs, i. e., remove all the entries you do > > > not need. > > > > Proceed with caution here. > > I do not know if it is currently true, but it has in the past > > been the case that (e.g.) option Q depends on device F which depends > > on device B; while the relationship between Q and F is documented in > > the config file, the one between F and B is not. > > The easy targets are disk(/RAID) drivers and network cards. > > After that? Stay alert; trust no-one; keep your un-delete key handy. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Robert Huff > > Just out of some sort of morbid curiosity, I would be interested in > knowing exactly what problem the OP is trying to correct or alleviate > here. If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the > limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful > machine. "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." > Agree. There are only two reasons to build a kernel nowadays IMO: 1. to solve a real problem or 2. to learn about FreeBSD "Not really related about hardware, i just don't like being enforced features" I'd say, most of the kernel is hardware related. You can't really strip down the kernel, if you don't want to touch any of the drivers in the config. You have got several examples already. Now you just have to configure and build the kernel you want. You can't avoid reading the Handbook section you've been pointed to and the comments in GENERIC. There simply isn't THE ulitmate stripped down config that fits anyone and no one will or can do that job for you. Try it, then ask specific questions if you run into trouble building or booting you kernel. P.S. You make it hard for yourself to get help by first posting the same question 3 times and then top posting in addition. This thread is so torn apart that it's not fun to follow. Almost unreadable. No offense, Samir, but this could be something for you: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html It's a good read and will help you post questions in a way that will actually help you get better help. Best Regards Matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 16:03:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23B1524A5F for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC696D9EB for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8598718051 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:03:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Barebone kernel options request To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190311080756.6191bb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <23686.24032.265558.282058@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20190311155608.GB99810@rpi3.zyxst.net> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <413d100f-6bb5-e59c-abed-b32b1842635f@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:03:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190311155608.GB99810@rpi3.zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7FC696D9EB X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.22)[-0.223,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.68)[0.679,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.07)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.748,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:03:11 -0000 On 3/11/19 10:56 AM, tech-lists wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 01:54:48PM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > >> Just out of some sort of morbid curiosity, I would be interested in >> knowing exactly what problem the OP is trying to correct or alleviate >> here. If his storage, memory or whatever resources are stretched to the >> limit, he would be better served by purchasing a newer, more powerful >> machine. "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." > > I dunno if this applies to the OP but I also compile custom kernels and > world for some machines. My basic reasons: > > 1. I want available only what is needed, for the os/machine's purpose, > so that there's more resources for the machine's job. Each disabled > option means that some resource of some type, however tiny, becomes > available. These add up. > > 2. Having only what you need means you have less to maintain, which is > important for security. I guess it makes the "vulnerability surface" > smaller, at least in theory. I mostly achieve that by running these things in jails. Sometimes I have multiple jails representing one "server" - with the same IP, say, these may be in separate jails: shell (where users can ssh to), www, mail, mail/spam filter. Just my $0.02 Valeri > > 3. It might be the case that the machine I'm maintaining isn't mine, so > the option to "buy better hardware" is out of the question. > > Being able to tailor the OS for exactly the requirement in hand is a > major plus point in favour of FreeBSD for me. point #2 above is > particularly relevant for an internet-facing machine. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 11 19:27:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76735152AD1B for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA8437721E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=m+MOROXyeCGYoQRw/wtEsv9lJugacAn1MlfEDqLr3nE=; b=nl9YB90ZDXcVtlfTk+0TjlzDeuLC8MLsRb8m9VH3S+y8BO64yD4XpxHjddgHiPTcEaApiXGSrnR+S stha5Z0GT3KxEv7VpsZvg1dOQ9k5EqL3qzgoaaSSint7R0LgSZf3ExNrCwRm1Jl4jTz3PqMALUgy33 YGwLUYH2tjyWWHvM= X-HalOne-Cookie: 37d78213183632cca87adcf9cd391e27424306ea X-HalOne-ID: 6db6788e-4431-11e9-8e17-d0431ea8a283 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.165.244.175]) by mailrelay1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 6db6788e-4431-11e9-8e17-d0431ea8a283; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <062b749eeb0a04571c2da6913a00bd8acf82bdb9.camel@smormegpa.no> Subject: Re: Re: Barebone kernel options request From: Matthias Oestreicher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:11:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190311170950.GB72099@neutralgood.org> References: <20190311170950.GB72099@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BA8437721E X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=nl9YB90Z X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.801,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[182.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.80)[0.800,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.57)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.68), asn: 51468(1.22), country: DK(-0.04)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:27:23 -0000 Am Montag, den 11.03.2019, 13:09 -0400 schrieb Kevin P. Neal: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 04:42:45PM +0100, Matthias Oestreicher wrote: > > P.S. You make it hard for yourself to get help by first posting the > > same question 3 times > > This was already addressed by the original poster. The multiple postings > were caused by a buggy webmail interface. I think we should just let it > go at that. > I agree. I found that now myself in one of the other posts. > > and then top posting in addition. This thread is so > > torn apart that it's not fun to follow. Almost unreadable. > > No offense, Samir, but this could be something for you: > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > It's a good read and will help you post questions in a way that will actually > > help you get better help. > > I know I started it, and I'm sorry I did. But I don't think that it's a > good idea to list every single thing a person did that was not in the local > style (I refuse to call it "wrong") when they post their first question > to the list. It's not very welcoming. > That wasn't my intention, though I have to admit it looks like I blame for fun. Sorry Samir and welcome to the list. > I just hope we answered the original question sufficiently. > I hope so, too. 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RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[45.217.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.910,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kamila@ksp.sk,kamisouckova@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[45.217.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kamila@ksp.sk,kamisouckova@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.20)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.85), asn: 15169(-2.07), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 23:14:28 -0000 > there's things in kernel-land that i'd like to avoid but i've seen no options so far for it. (like as it could be nooptions JAIL) > I'm already aware of kernel configuration file, i'm just asking if one can help to get like that (some kind of patch that would add code like #ifdef JAIL ... #endif). I believe removing jails cannot be done with just the config file and would be a lot of work to do at all. That said, I wouldn't remove them even if I could and didn't need them for isolating services: jails can also be useful for a variety of "unexpected" purposes, such as building ports with poudriere, poking at boot environments, or even playing with linuxulator. 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Tue, 12 Mar 2019 19:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:27:27 +0000 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: enforcing php56 in a poudriere build Message-ID: <20190312232727.GC34798@rpi3.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20190311105149.GA99810@rpi3.zyxst.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190311105149.GA99810@rpi3.zyxst.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.2 (2019-01-07) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2B93F8BCE4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm2 header.b=xCQMDJEN; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=BTSAaKcn; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 64.147.123.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; 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[1] rather than updating one tree. doh! -- J. 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From: "James B. 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What is the conversion process if this is at all possible? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 03:26:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36ED153A329 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4018F849E1 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 03:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com with SMTP id e126so4373507vse.1 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EU359TWZxz7O1GLQjKS8bREpnqdbQVaqm0Ew0xQem/4=; b=BsYG75AyPiRB50IBYAA/MyJ/T+rMZX+w7gXnm/5uTuO1LJHhxiKiEB2VlvBcUc7lry yDmZDGRgcKj6VOo1LOqt0+2MhJgRgbT+at4yBccWr1FbCh7Z8ce/LBRzNUCYrPT+dNCf EfFAwAlsRM1WTDamCXL/jrP/y9uuvYpAVk0GCKmcypmq/dD2t6k0kNkPGh459WcsnOY+ UO4i/JNOU2Nbozkqj2FI8PbGV8VhOVt/R/8KTOLefsoh1U3UT3CDI14Wzg5hYJTdsQTf JCF/QkQQCok0QlqYmUEjwndBaCyjro2QRoDGRqLIy+eyn8IJbNX090CNGHP06DGCuoJ3 BHpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EU359TWZxz7O1GLQjKS8bREpnqdbQVaqm0Ew0xQem/4=; b=VZKnls2oIep4VkQVaMiOtxbzqK4GYmqRoVEUgU7thlYqC3htCDyLDy3J9AHwhj69m2 YVlcTYGRc54CXFAAsnPp7WaqNh9XRks4JVtPFRfZf0oFT0AeCOz4poEb4shhrP0qmaCa 3o0MN7P2nPinzOVQbsh2hYEOJqRWcviYMgC2OIEUpH6XAWdWosoilJcS1qv4uK1du5I3 QmJsAD+aqc8oh0yxQe7Gi6QhbWhjoO7kyiRfO51YHH+4LIY4wbk9n+hIpmAFmuuRFKIe t/S+7H+zvkT40w+yxUbjJj/2C5olap6n1DDbjed/ddDLdwnoY1KxyUk0kiAire4ZdhFi t87g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUsWzg++AYLv3N3/H77b+/ptS6u4UPAFAPC14pyZQi6P619CmV9 WNjwPiyG+pNcMOUcLpqWix1CyW8075mn2REs6BlGQHi1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzdheNyAu/Tl9Rcpgt1XH3fi72mHfIO2iQ8v+pM8ff0LBFMAcMkFz0doZocuNXFzpeKZgciG28GW8HeqAevISI= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f64f:: with SMTP id u15mr888694vso.1.1552620377507; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:26:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c1:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:26:16 -0700 (PDT) From: B J Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 03:26:16 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4018F849E1 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BsYG75Ay; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of va6bmj@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=va6bmj@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.81), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.73), asn: 15169(-2.08), country: US(-0.07)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.932,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 03:26:26 -0000 Before I did the upgrade, I ran ntpd by putting ntpd_enable="YES" in: /etc/rc.conf Now, when I boot my computer, I get: Security policy loaded: MAC/ntpd (mac_ntpd) Starting ntpd. su: unknown login: ntpd /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start ntpd The upgrade to 12.0 was done with the following: freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install freebsd-update -r 12.0-RELEASE upgrade I restarted the machine and ran: /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install when prompted to do so. I also reinstalled all the packages and, I believe, ports. I didn't, however, run mergemaster or: pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd nor do I recall being prompted to do so during the upgrading process. (Maybe I wasn't paying attention.) Can I get ntpd to run if I ran: pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd Does anyone have any other suggestions? BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 04:17:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0305153BABC for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9898E86B46 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1552622241; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=SqnDdx4RuEVcsKiqAx3YIaJ/mMY=; b=g3Koa4d0NZ8iC/a5uOhY/dfzw46T/SH1wR25+WzWp+ShweJqHHS9QW9Y2WRADZFB fNNKcXcyiILTqJuFzve0rC6GwebU7W/tqQFW4wrdJ8FMnlQoU3pxrQEeUzVOVzLA 71Ecfq0KBxxoT4N7nqxlLyUcvY3c9rGhxDvzUtXSHb0cVTQvBcCLpZI0bgKsm7WQ G/8NqB3M04Ksh/BejNmaqaa6lC36vHlxauTGJTE0smN0Yi4+9f67Eoo4J/bSXyCW ou1roMqwSQvZKyLDEQTk5yWsGV4CuU/xMaW8nITEpNgg+gWW+uRLjWEswKniAYvb ZzaMTJXIEDINV2CDKyQ/wA==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=LobQ8TVc c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=NTGMnVQrEZIA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=QGcA73YFzb-AR5Wx7ZkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:53233] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id C6/34-02630-1A22B8C5; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:57:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23691.8864.403686.789164@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:57:20 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9898E86B46 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=g3Koa4d0; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.83)[ip: (-9.50), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.66), asn: 36271(0.06), country: US(-0.07)]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.rcn.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:17:29 -0000 B J writes: > Does anyone have any other suggestions? Does ports/UPDATING entry 20180803 apply? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 04:18:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AEB153BB45 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB8A86BA5 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id y19so4632679vsc.4 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 21:18:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CGtTPLyq1d44q0fZ8JASdYAyvEl2awgdQVn8aLyE/7w=; b=YP1ee0PYjNinUpRkX89mL5NK3T1j47vE0yT67Yn7wQd33QM2pzg/JoLdMnzWBwpaAp naolyCIFsydcWT8lVmbyZSXQ4BMY42eTAeihkkv2QVvQl9sYyYG/HDRBbxTuj5JCrfn7 IezyoD0aApLlIq5gyP77oZ5fpBpCGOYS+ELQyTR2VOiI7VY9zc6AReS8u0qxUZ00T6rG KEuZHO/MXVFmIO2LGYjz1J1phHdp9yXiWLPjJR5EH+FLSzbnfFnW1n9cHinm4bN+z6lu 6vHpHES8Gjox+St4WuzKl67zdXOYzKYiaaCq+NbI1jiKJLnO72H4HGK5Lo2kw0ZFWics 4vxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CGtTPLyq1d44q0fZ8JASdYAyvEl2awgdQVn8aLyE/7w=; b=bKIuDo2wVwm0z2wuG49caHjp6pTq6jtZUiGAaBhKgcZuFB5Yjcbeu2LC5zmLgawhkJ nLVhCWdh3S/EJ8yC/2JmQn7z/FtM6S0oui/lVcjfeO+j8FHf88wHCZS+sSfWSyLpJz9s AUomwKYbs/I02JeHVLLv8DusMzCh9yspXmh7XRe9WqUVkr/QqAFeK9COZypCkcn4miPY 1JXriOxpXLXObquZfo4E5PpjoyHkvKgxk1O8cK7uihO8khobFp6fWqbjODF7eu8swf75 MI0kAtBXUWax0lC8i4CsqvhNR7eBpPSQZ8iez6X+pBR58wSn0XmHgefCjvHhIJZ+Q29K nfig== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU0KQ+hu8CvB4bcMtPqiaq/tPDlsXXOGgi5s21A7hy1tWhiVVvZ gVFHQDWWeZU/ZkgbDIUJBCNo9WMm1HG19O30RpE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx8r3nS2D7o2a6G5fic0pvz9srirxfj5EM+iWyyO+e2m80K5Cr4sE3xhFgJ7rTYvJgbmoR4Fwe3FbGVS1eX7D8= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ec15:: with SMTP id d21mr906498vso.97.1552623495856; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 21:18:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c1:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 21:18:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23691.8864.403686.789164@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <23691.8864.403686.789164@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: B J Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:18:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start To: Robert Huff Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EFB8A86BA5 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=YP1ee0PY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of va6bmj@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=va6bmj@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(-2.91)[ip: (-9.66), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.73), asn: 15169(-2.08), country: US(-0.07)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:18:18 -0000 On 3/15/19, Robert Huff wrote: > > B J writes: > >> Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Does ports/UPDATING entry 20180803 apply? > Thanks for your reply. I don't think I'm using openntpd. I started running ntpd (which I think is included with the base system) after adding: ntpd_enable="YES" to: /etc/rc.conf BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 04:39:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C704153C620 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D2A28760E for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 076A431DCF; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:39:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D4A31891A; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:39:34 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.1 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:39:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190315.133925.929195982203734953.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3D2A28760E X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.837,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.882,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (0.34), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.17), asn: 2519(0.33), country: JP(-0.07)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.utahime.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.60)[-0.604,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:39:51 -0000 From: B J Subject: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 03:26:16 +0000 > Does anyone have any other suggestions? This is known issue of 12.0. See thread starting with following. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2018-December/283768.html --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 04:54:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA80B153CDEE for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9568588225 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1552625661; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=q0fLIIVJtIynARUbAJ8TfpbHioQ=; b=stnzrUXczRLau/qTjBL/LIllS3QPC1GKpko+r/h3x1y38nOAWW0Ptylnk551/WY6 wp42ioOqNXUmwNWkITufpawDjuSsQPxKCUEmn+ZxcUEdZffk525giQ+NtVM9ptzt UoV4okzaYEHZqbPdthiPCEv67FRGSTHoGeddFhdEKac7I4HUkJ054t76KGFaEHsN 72gGG5gY1YtNB5an5KugYYqsKeBFqRL0BkTZK9h5NhVFHxTxBr/Qz2izz7SiwgPL MXb+SGm+7NEVSDK8FHhUZa8afZzb5J1jjqFy3c4U+h4XPSDU+PILzrLVSC0GGhdm ZRvrZ6BpTTzhOc0G9wMiiw==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=LobQ8TVc c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=NTGMnVQrEZIA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=jRBL4UNixvMLF95jyjkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:13732] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id BA/D4-02630-DFF2B8C5; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23691.12283.731246.141755@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:19 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: B J Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start In-Reply-To: References: <23691.8864.403686.789164@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9568588225 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=stnzrUXc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.84)[ip: (-9.51), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.67), asn: 36271(0.05), country: US(-0.07)]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.rcn.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.79)[-0.788,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:54:24 -0000 B J writes: > I don't think I'm using openntpd. The point was about ntpd having a new user number. Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 06:32:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23781153FA1C for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 06:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85E818AF2A; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 06:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9079B31DFC; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:32:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1F4218979; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:32:14 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.1 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:31:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190315.153146.1842001554870367584.yasu@utahime.org> To: re@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <20190315.133925.929195982203734953.yasu@utahime.org> References: <20190315.133925.929195982203734953.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 85E818AF2A X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.75)[-0.745,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.818,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (0.33), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.17), asn: 2519(0.32), country: JP(-0.07)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.09)[0.094,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 06:32:22 -0000 Dear FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, From: Yasuhiro KIMURA Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:39:25 +0900 (JST) >> Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > This is known issue of 12.0. See thread starting with following. > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2018-December/283768.html I think this issue should be described in FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE Errata. And if possible it also should be fixed as EN. Please consider it. 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I have configured the template file as follows: loader="grub" cpu=2 memory=4G network0_type="virtio-net" network0_switch="public" disk0_type="virtio-blk" disk0_name="disk0.img" grub_install0="linux /isolinux/vmlinuz" grub_install1="initrd /isolinux/initrd.img" grub_run0="linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-573.el6.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root" grub_run1="initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-573.el6.x86_64.img" The ISO image is /zroot/vm/.iso/CentOS-6.10-x86_64-minimal.iso The command to vm used to create the guest is: vm create -s 100G -t centos6-2x4 inet09 && vm install inet09 CentOS-6.10-x86_64-minimal.iso When I start the vm I see this: NAME DATASTORE LOADER CPU MEMORY VNC AUTOSTART STATE inet09 default grub 2 4G - No Bootloader (73220) When I connect to the console then I see this: Booting `inet09 (bhyve run)' error: disk `hd0,1' not found. error: you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... Which eventually turns into this: GNU GRUB version 2.00 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |inet09 (bhyve run) | | | . . . | | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Use the ^ and v keys to select which entry is highlighted. Press enter to boot the selected OS, `e' to edit the commands before booting or `c' for a command-line. Selecting the only entry highlighted gives the initial error message. Dropping into the grub shell I see this: grub> ls (hd0) (host) grub> ls hd0 error: disk `hd0,1' not found. At this point I am at a loss as to how to proceed. What do I do next to get CentOS-6 to boot for initial configuration? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions = wrote: >=20 > Is it possible to move a vmware guest image (whatever it is called) to > byhive? What is the conversion process if this is at all possible? I haven't tried it, but perhaps with qemu-img? =46rom = https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve: Q: Can I use disk images from VirtualBox or other virtualization = platforms on bhyve? A: bhyve does not currently support reading foreign disk image = formats directly, so one will have to convert=20 existing disk images to a raw image using qemu-img. This = can be accomplished by doing the following=20 on a FreeBSD system:=20 $ pkg install qemu-devel $ qemu-img convert -f vmdk -O raw virtual_box_image.vmdk = bhyve_raw_image.img VMDK, QCOW, QCOW2, VDI and more images can be converted to raw = images using the qemu-img(1)=20 utility in the emulators/qemu-devel port. Kirk= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 18:34:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2821529C78 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0EBF7596B; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id x2FIY6c9031679; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id x2FIY588031678; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201903151834.x2FIY588031678@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start In-Reply-To: <20190315.153146.1842001554870367584.yasu@utahime.org> To: Yasuhiro KIMURA Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:34:05 -0700 (PDT) CC: re@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: rgrimes@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E0EBF7596B X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[rgrimes@FreeBSD.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.33)[0.328,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: gndrsh.dnsmgr.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.20)[0.196,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.270,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (0.05), ipnet: 69.59.192.0/19(0.03), asn: 13868(0.01), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:34:10 -0000 > Dear FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, > > From: Yasuhiro KIMURA > Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:39:25 +0900 (JST) > > >> Does anyone have any other suggestions? > > > > This is known issue of 12.0. See thread starting with following. > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2018-December/283768.html > > I think this issue should be described in FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE > Errata. And if possible it also should be fixed as EN. Please consider > it. 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It seems some good links have been taken down and no one cached them before they went away... I have a system with two of these cards with 88 drives attached (relevant dmesg info attached). This is FreeBSD 12.0. Also providing camcontrol devlist. Smartctl asks for information in this format: smartctl -a -d hpt,1/3 /dev/hptrr (under FreeBSD) smartctl -a -d hpt,1/2/3 /dev/hptrr (under FreeBSD) where in the argument hpt,L/M or hpt,L/M/N, the integer L is the controller id, the integer M is the channel number, and the integer N is the PMPort number if it is available. The allowed values of L are from 1 to 4 inclusive, M are from 1 to 8 inclusive and N from 1 to 5 if PMPort available. The /dev/sda-z form should be the device node which stands for the disks derived from the HighPoint RocketRAID controllers under Linux and under FreeBSD, it is the character device which the driver registered (eg, /dev/hptrr, /dev/hptmv6). And also these values are limited by the model of the HighPoint RocketRAID controller. sample error: #smartctl -a -d hpt,1/1/2 /dev/hptrr smartctl 7.0 2018-12-30 r4883 [FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-18, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org Smartctl open device: /dev/hptrr [hpt_disk_1/1/2] failed: No such file or directory --- How do I determine L/M/N for these drives/devices -- I've tried 1/0/0, 1/1/1, 1/3, 1/2/3, and a number of others and none of them seem to go. How do I translate, or what additional commands do I need to run to get this info? Thanks in advance! hptnr0: mem 0xfb340000-0xfb35ffff,0xfb300000-0xfb33ffff irq 26 at device 0.0 on pci2 hptnr: adapter at PCI 1:0:0, IRQ 26 hptnr1: mem 0xfb240000-0xfb25ffff,0xfb200000-0xfb23ffff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci3 hptnr: adapter at PCI 2:0:0, IRQ 32 hptnr: [01:00 00] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 hptnr: [01:00 04] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 hptnr: [01:00 08] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 hptnr: [01:00 12] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 hptnr: [01:00 01] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 hptnr: [01:00 05] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 hptnr: [01:00 09] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 hptnr: [01:00 13] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 hptnr: [01:00 02] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 hptnr: [01:00 06] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 hptnr: [01:00 10] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 hptnr: [01:00 14] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 hptnr: [01:00 03] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 hptnr: [01:00 07] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 hptnr: [01:00 11] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 hptnr: [01:00 15] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 hptnr: [01:00 16] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 hptnr: [01:00 17] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 hptnr: [01:00 18] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 hptnr: [01:00 19] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 hptnr: [01:00 00] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 04] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 08] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 12] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 01] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 05] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 09] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 13] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 02] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 06] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 10] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 14] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 03] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 07] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 11] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 15] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 16] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 17] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 18] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 19] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 20] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 hptnr: [01:00 24] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 hptnr: [01:00 28] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 hptnr: [01:00 32] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 hptnr: [01:00 21] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 hptnr: [01:00 25] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 hptnr: [01:00 29] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 hptnr: [01:00 33] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 hptnr: [01:00 22] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 hptnr: [01:00 26] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 hptnr: [01:00 30] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 hptnr: [01:00 34] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 hptnr: [01:00 23] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 hptnr: [01:00 27] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 hptnr: [01:00 31] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 hptnr: [01:00 35] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 hptnr: [01:00 36] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 hptnr: [01:00 37] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 hptnr: [01:00 38] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 hptnr: [01:00 39] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 hptnr: [01:00 20] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 24] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 28] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 32] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 21] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 25] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 29] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 33] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 22] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 26] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 30] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 34] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 23] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 27] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 31] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 35] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 36] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 37] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 38] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [01:00 39] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 00] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 hptnr: [02:00 04] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 hptnr: [02:00 08] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 hptnr: [02:00 12] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 hptnr: [02:00 01] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 hptnr: [02:00 05] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 hptnr: [02:00 09] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 hptnr: [02:00 13] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 hptnr: [02:00 02] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 hptnr: [02:00 06] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 hptnr: [02:00 10] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 hptnr: [02:00 14] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 hptnr: [02:00 03] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 hptnr: [02:00 07] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 hptnr: [02:00 11] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 hptnr: [02:00 15] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 hptnr: [02:00 16] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 hptnr: [02:00 17] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 hptnr: [02:00 18] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 hptnr: [02:00 19] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 hptnr: [02:00 00] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 04] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 08] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 12] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 01] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 05] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 09] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 13] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 02] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 06] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 10] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 14] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 03] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 07] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 11] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 15] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 16] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 17] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 18] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 19] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 20] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 hptnr: [02:00 24] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 hptnr: [02:00 28] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 hptnr: [02:00 32] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 hptnr: [02:00 21] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 hptnr: [02:00 25] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 hptnr: [02:00 29] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 hptnr: [02:00 33] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 hptnr: [02:00 22] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 hptnr: [02:00 26] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 hptnr: [02:00 30] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 hptnr: [02:00 34] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 hptnr: [02:00 23] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 hptnr: [02:00 27] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 hptnr: [02:00 31] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 hptnr: [02:00 35] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 hptnr: [02:00 36] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 hptnr: [02:00 37] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 hptnr: [02:00 38] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 hptnr: [02:00 39] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 hptnr: [02:00 20] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 24] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 28] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 32] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 21] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 25] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 29] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 33] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 22] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 26] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 30] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 34] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 23] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 27] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 31] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 35] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 36] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 37] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 38] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). hptnr: [02:00 39] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). da0 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 0 lun 0 da1 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 1 lun 0 da3 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 3 lun 0 da2 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 2 lun 0 uhub1: da5 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 5 lun 0 uhub0: da7 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 7 lun 0 da4 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 4 lun 0 da6 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 6 lun 0 uhub2: da9 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 9 lun 0 da11 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 11 lun 0 da8 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 8 lun 0 da13 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 13 lun 0 da15 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 15 lun 0 da10 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 10 lun 0 da17 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 17 lun 0 da12 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 12 lun 0 da19 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 19 lun 0 da14 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 14 lun 0 da21 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 21 lun 0 da16 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 16 lun 0 da23 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 23 lun 0 da18 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 18 lun 0 da25 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 25 lun 0 da27 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 27 lun 0 da20 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 20 lun 0 da29 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 29 lun 0 da41 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 1 lun 0 da31 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 31 lun 0 da43 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 3 lun 0 da33 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 33 lun 0 da45 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 5 lun 0 da40 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 0 lun 0 da22 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 22 lun 0 da42 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 2 lun 0 da47 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 7 lun 0 da44 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 4 lun 0 da49 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 9 lun 0 da46 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 6 lun 0 da48 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 8 lun 0 uhub3da51 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 11 lun 0 da50 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 10 lun 0 da52 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 12 lun 0 da24 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 24 lun 0 da54 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 14 lun 0 uhub3: da56 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 16 lun 0 da26 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 26 lun 0 da58 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 18 lun 0 da60 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 20 lun 0 da28 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 28 lun 0 da62 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 22 lun 0 da53 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 13 lun 0 da64 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 24 lun 0 da55 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 15 lun 0 uhub4da66 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 26 lun 0 da30 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 30 lun 0 uhub4: da68 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 28 lun 0 da32 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 32 lun 0 da70 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 30 lun 0 da35 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 35 lun 0 da34 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 34 lun 0 da37 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 37 lun 0 da36 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 36 lun 0 da39 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 39 lun 0 da38 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 38 lun 0 da72 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 32 lun 0 da57 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 17 lun 0 da74 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 34 lun 0 da59 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 19 lun 0 da76 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 36 lun 0 da61 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 21 lun 0 da78 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 38 lun 0 da63 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 23 lun 0 da65 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 25 lun 0 da67 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 27 lun 0 da69 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 29 lun 0 da71 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 31 lun 0 da73 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 33 lun 0 da75 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 35 lun 0 da77 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 37 lun 0 da79 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 39 lun 0 at scbus12 target 0 lun 0 (pass12,da0) at scbus12 target 1 lun 0 (pass13,da1) at scbus12 target 2 lun 0 (pass14,da2) at scbus12 target 3 lun 0 (pass15,da3) at scbus12 target 4 lun 0 (pass16,da4) at scbus12 target 5 lun 0 (pass17,da5) at scbus12 target 6 lun 0 (pass18,da6) at scbus12 target 7 lun 0 (pass19,da7) at scbus12 target 8 lun 0 (pass20,da8) at scbus12 target 9 lun 0 (pass21,da9) at scbus12 target 10 lun 0 (pass22,da10) at scbus12 target 11 lun 0 (pass23,da11) at scbus12 target 12 lun 0 (pass24,da12) at scbus12 target 13 lun 0 (pass25,da13) at scbus12 target 14 lun 0 (pass26,da14) at scbus12 target 15 lun 0 (pass27,da15) at scbus12 target 16 lun 0 (pass28,da16) at scbus12 target 17 lun 0 (pass29,da17) at scbus12 target 18 lun 0 (pass30,da18) at scbus12 target 19 lun 0 (pass31,da19) at scbus12 target 20 lun 0 (pass32,da20) at scbus12 target 21 lun 0 (pass33,da21) at scbus12 target 22 lun 0 (pass34,da22) at scbus12 target 23 lun 0 (pass35,da23) at scbus12 target 24 lun 0 (pass36,da24) at scbus12 target 25 lun 0 (pass37,da25) at scbus12 target 26 lun 0 (pass38,da26) at scbus12 target 27 lun 0 (pass39,da27) at scbus12 target 28 lun 0 (pass40,da28) at scbus12 target 29 lun 0 (pass41,da29) at scbus12 target 30 lun 0 (pass42,da30) at scbus12 target 31 lun 0 (pass43,da31) at scbus12 target 32 lun 0 (pass44,da32) at scbus12 target 33 lun 0 (pass45,da33) at scbus12 target 34 lun 0 (pass46,da34) at scbus12 target 35 lun 0 (pass47,da35) at scbus12 target 36 lun 0 (pass48,da36) at scbus12 target 37 lun 0 (pass49,da37) at scbus12 target 38 lun 0 (pass50,da38) at scbus12 target 39 lun 0 (pass51,da39) at scbus13 target 0 lun 0 (pass52,da40) at scbus13 target 1 lun 0 (pass53,da41) at scbus13 target 2 lun 0 (pass54,da42) at scbus13 target 3 lun 0 (pass55,da43) at scbus13 target 4 lun 0 (pass56,da44) at scbus13 target 5 lun 0 (pass57,da45) at scbus13 target 6 lun 0 (pass58,da46) at scbus13 target 7 lun 0 (pass59,da47) at scbus13 target 8 lun 0 (pass60,da48) at scbus13 target 9 lun 0 (pass61,da49) at scbus13 target 10 lun 0 (pass62,da50) at scbus13 target 11 lun 0 (pass63,da51) at scbus13 target 12 lun 0 (pass64,da52) at scbus13 target 13 lun 0 (pass65,da53) at scbus13 target 14 lun 0 (pass66,da54) at scbus13 target 15 lun 0 (pass67,da55) at scbus13 target 16 lun 0 (pass68,da56) at scbus13 target 17 lun 0 (pass69,da57) at scbus13 target 18 lun 0 (pass70,da58) at scbus13 target 19 lun 0 (pass71,da59) at scbus13 target 20 lun 0 (pass72,da60) at scbus13 target 21 lun 0 (pass73,da61) at scbus13 target 22 lun 0 (pass74,da62) at scbus13 target 23 lun 0 (pass75,da63) at scbus13 target 24 lun 0 (pass76,da64) at scbus13 target 25 lun 0 (pass77,da65) at scbus13 target 26 lun 0 (pass78,da66) at scbus13 target 27 lun 0 (pass79,da67) at scbus13 target 28 lun 0 (pass80,da68) at scbus13 target 29 lun 0 (pass81,da69) at scbus13 target 30 lun 0 (pass82,da70) at scbus13 target 31 lun 0 (pass83,da71) at scbus13 target 32 lun 0 (pass84,da72) at scbus13 target 33 lun 0 (pass85,da73) at scbus13 target 34 lun 0 (pass86,da74) at scbus13 target 35 lun 0 (pass87,da75) at scbus13 target 36 lun 0 (pass88,da76) at scbus13 target 37 lun 0 (pass89,da77) at scbus13 target 38 lun 0 (pass90,da78) at scbus13 target 39 lun 0 (pass91,da79) Again, thanks in advance! -- FF From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 19:11:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A6E152AA77 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fusionfoto@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN 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Serves me right for reading the man page before just trying it. Apparently somewhere along the line reading smartctl directly (smartctl -i /dev/da0 for example) just works... not of the HPT specific stuff is required. Thanks and sorry for the distraction! On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:57 PM FF wrote: > > I am having a tough time googling the answer for this... It seems some > good links have been taken down and no one cached them before they went > away... > > I have a system with two of these cards with 88 drives attached (relevant > dmesg info attached). This is FreeBSD 12.0. Also providing camcontrol > devlist. > > Smartctl asks for information in this format: > > smartctl -a -d hpt,1/3 /dev/hptrr (under FreeBSD) > smartctl -a -d hpt,1/2/3 /dev/hptrr (under FreeBSD) > > where in the argument hpt,L/M or hpt,L/M/N, the integer L is the > controller id, the integer M is the channel number, and the integer N is > the PMPort number if it is available. The allowed values of L are from 1 to > 4 inclusive, M are from 1 to 8 inclusive and N from 1 to 5 if PMPort > available. The /dev/sda-z form should be the device node which stands for > the disks derived from the HighPoint RocketRAID controllers under Linux and > under FreeBSD, it is the character device which the driver registered (eg, > /dev/hptrr, /dev/hptmv6). And also these values are limited by the model of > the HighPoint RocketRAID controller. > > sample error: > > #smartctl -a -d hpt,1/1/2 /dev/hptrr > smartctl 7.0 2018-12-30 r4883 [FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE amd64] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-18, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, > www.smartmontools.org > > Smartctl open device: /dev/hptrr [hpt_disk_1/1/2] failed: No such file or > directory > > --- > > How do I determine L/M/N for these drives/devices -- I've tried 1/0/0, > 1/1/1, 1/3, 1/2/3, and a number of others and none of them seem to go. How > do I translate, or what additional commands do I need to run to get this > info? > > Thanks in advance! > > hptnr0: mem 0xfb340000-0xfb35ffff,0xfb300000-0xfb33ffff irq 26 at > device 0.0 on pci2 > hptnr: adapter at PCI 1:0:0, IRQ 26 > hptnr1: mem 0xfb240000-0xfb25ffff,0xfb200000-0xfb23ffff irq 32 at > device 0.0 on pci3 > hptnr: adapter at PCI 2:0:0, IRQ 32 > hptnr: [01:00 00] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 > hptnr: [01:00 04] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 > hptnr: [01:00 08] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 > hptnr: [01:00 12] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 > hptnr: [01:00 01] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 > hptnr: [01:00 05] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 > hptnr: [01:00 09] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 > hptnr: [01:00 13] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 > hptnr: [01:00 02] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 > hptnr: [01:00 06] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 > hptnr: [01:00 10] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 > hptnr: [01:00 14] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 > hptnr: [01:00 03] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 > hptnr: [01:00 07] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 > hptnr: [01:00 11] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 > hptnr: [01:00 15] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 > hptnr: [01:00 16] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 > hptnr: [01:00 17] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 > hptnr: [01:00 18] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 > hptnr: [01:00 19] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 > hptnr: [01:00 00] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 04] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 08] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 12] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 01] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 05] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 09] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 13] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 02] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 06] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 10] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 14] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 03] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 07] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 11] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 15] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 16] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 17] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 18] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 19] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 20] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 > hptnr: [01:00 24] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 > hptnr: [01:00 28] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 > hptnr: [01:00 32] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 > hptnr: [01:00 21] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 > hptnr: [01:00 25] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 > hptnr: [01:00 29] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 > hptnr: [01:00 33] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 > hptnr: [01:00 22] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 > hptnr: [01:00 26] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 > hptnr: [01:00 30] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 > hptnr: [01:00 34] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 > hptnr: [01:00 23] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 > hptnr: [01:00 27] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 > hptnr: [01:00 31] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 > hptnr: [01:00 35] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 > hptnr: [01:00 36] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 > hptnr: [01:00 37] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 > hptnr: [01:00 38] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 > hptnr: [01:00 39] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 > hptnr: [01:00 20] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 24] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 28] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 32] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 21] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 25] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 29] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 33] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 22] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 26] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 30] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 34] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 23] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 27] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 31] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 35] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 36] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 37] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 38] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [01:00 39] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 00] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 > hptnr: [02:00 04] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 > hptnr: [02:00 08] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 > hptnr: [02:00 12] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 > hptnr: [02:00 01] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 > hptnr: [02:00 05] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 > hptnr: [02:00 09] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 > hptnr: [02:00 13] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 > hptnr: [02:00 02] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 > hptnr: [02:00 06] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 > hptnr: [02:00 10] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 > hptnr: [02:00 14] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 > hptnr: [02:00 03] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 > hptnr: [02:00 07] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 > hptnr: [02:00 11] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 > hptnr: [02:00 15] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 > hptnr: [02:00 16] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 > hptnr: [02:00 17] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 > hptnr: [02:00 18] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 > hptnr: [02:00 19] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 > hptnr: [02:00 00] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 04] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 08] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 12] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 01] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 05] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 09] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 13] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 02] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 06] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 10] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 14] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 03] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 07] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 11] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 15] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 16] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 17] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 18] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 19] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 20] Start Soft Reset for 0/0 > hptnr: [02:00 24] Start Soft Reset for 1/0 > hptnr: [02:00 28] Start Soft Reset for 2/0 > hptnr: [02:00 32] Start Soft Reset for 3/0 > hptnr: [02:00 21] Start Soft Reset for 0/1 > hptnr: [02:00 25] Start Soft Reset for 1/1 > hptnr: [02:00 29] Start Soft Reset for 2/1 > hptnr: [02:00 33] Start Soft Reset for 3/1 > hptnr: [02:00 22] Start Soft Reset for 0/2 > hptnr: [02:00 26] Start Soft Reset for 1/2 > hptnr: [02:00 30] Start Soft Reset for 2/2 > hptnr: [02:00 34] Start Soft Reset for 3/2 > hptnr: [02:00 23] Start Soft Reset for 0/3 > hptnr: [02:00 27] Start Soft Reset for 1/3 > hptnr: [02:00 31] Start Soft Reset for 2/3 > hptnr: [02:00 35] Start Soft Reset for 3/3 > hptnr: [02:00 36] Start Soft Reset for 0/4 > hptnr: [02:00 37] Start Soft Reset for 1/4 > hptnr: [02:00 38] Start Soft Reset for 2/4 > hptnr: [02:00 39] Start Soft Reset for 3/4 > hptnr: [02:00 20] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 24] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 28] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 32] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 21] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 25] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 29] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 33] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 22] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 26] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 30] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 34] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 23] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 27] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 31] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 35] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 36] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 37] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 38] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > hptnr: [02:00 39] disk probed (spinup mode: 1). > da0 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 0 lun 0 > da1 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 1 lun 0 > da3 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 3 lun 0 > da2 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 2 lun 0 > uhub1: da5 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 5 lun 0 > uhub0: da7 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 7 lun 0 > da4 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 4 lun 0 > da6 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 6 lun 0 > uhub2: da9 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 9 lun 0 > da11 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 11 lun 0 > da8 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 8 lun 0 > da13 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 13 lun 0 > da15 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 15 lun 0 > da10 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 10 lun 0 > da17 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 17 lun 0 > da12 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 12 lun 0 > da19 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 19 lun 0 > da14 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 14 lun 0 > da21 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 21 lun 0 > da16 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 16 lun 0 > da23 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 23 lun 0 > da18 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 18 lun 0 > da25 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 25 lun 0 > da27 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 27 lun 0 > da20 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 20 lun 0 > da29 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 29 lun 0 > da41 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 1 lun 0 > da31 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 31 lun 0 > da43 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 3 lun 0 > da33 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 33 lun 0 > da45 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 5 lun 0 > da40 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 0 lun 0 > da22 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 22 lun 0 > da42 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 2 lun 0 > da47 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 7 lun 0 > da44 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 4 lun 0 > da49 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 9 lun 0 > da46 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 6 lun 0 > da48 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 8 lun 0 > uhub3da51 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 11 lun 0 > da50 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 10 lun 0 > da52 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 12 lun 0 > da24 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 24 lun 0 > da54 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 14 lun 0 > uhub3: da56 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 16 lun 0 > da26 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 26 lun 0 > da58 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 18 lun 0 > da60 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 20 lun 0 > da28 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 28 lun 0 > da62 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 22 lun 0 > da53 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 13 lun 0 > da64 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 24 lun 0 > da55 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 15 lun 0 > uhub4da66 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 26 lun 0 > da30 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 30 lun 0 > uhub4: da68 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 28 lun 0 > da32 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 32 lun 0 > da70 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 30 lun 0 > da35 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 35 lun 0 > da34 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 34 lun 0 > da37 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 37 lun 0 > da36 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 36 lun 0 > da39 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 39 lun 0 > da38 at hptnr0 bus 0 scbus12 target 38 lun 0 > da72 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 32 lun 0 > da57 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 17 lun 0 > da74 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 34 lun 0 > da59 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 19 lun 0 > da76 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 36 lun 0 > da61 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 21 lun 0 > da78 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 38 lun 0 > da63 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 23 lun 0 > da65 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 25 lun 0 > da67 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 27 lun 0 > da69 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 29 lun 0 > da71 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 31 lun 0 > da73 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 33 lun 0 > da75 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 35 lun 0 > da77 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 37 lun 0 > da79 at hptnr1 bus 0 scbus13 target 39 lun 0 > > at scbus12 target 0 lun 0 (pass12,da0) > at scbus12 target 1 lun 0 (pass13,da1) > at scbus12 target 2 lun 0 (pass14,da2) > at scbus12 target 3 lun 0 (pass15,da3) > at scbus12 target 4 lun 0 (pass16,da4) > at scbus12 target 5 lun 0 (pass17,da5) > at scbus12 target 6 lun 0 (pass18,da6) > at scbus12 target 7 lun 0 (pass19,da7) > at scbus12 target 8 lun 0 (pass20,da8) > at scbus12 target 9 lun 0 (pass21,da9) > at scbus12 target 10 lun 0 (pass22,da10) > at scbus12 target 11 lun 0 (pass23,da11) > at scbus12 target 12 lun 0 (pass24,da12) > at scbus12 target 13 lun 0 (pass25,da13) > at scbus12 target 14 lun 0 (pass26,da14) > at scbus12 target 15 lun 0 (pass27,da15) > at scbus12 target 16 lun 0 (pass28,da16) > at scbus12 target 17 lun 0 (pass29,da17) > at scbus12 target 18 lun 0 (pass30,da18) > at scbus12 target 19 lun 0 (pass31,da19) > at scbus12 target 20 lun 0 (pass32,da20) > at scbus12 target 21 lun 0 (pass33,da21) > at scbus12 target 22 lun 0 (pass34,da22) > at scbus12 target 23 lun 0 (pass35,da23) > at scbus12 target 24 lun 0 (pass36,da24) > at scbus12 target 25 lun 0 (pass37,da25) > at scbus12 target 26 lun 0 (pass38,da26) > at scbus12 target 27 lun 0 (pass39,da27) > at scbus12 target 28 lun 0 (pass40,da28) > at scbus12 target 29 lun 0 (pass41,da29) > at scbus12 target 30 lun 0 (pass42,da30) > at scbus12 target 31 lun 0 (pass43,da31) > at scbus12 target 32 lun 0 (pass44,da32) > at scbus12 target 33 lun 0 (pass45,da33) > at scbus12 target 34 lun 0 (pass46,da34) > at scbus12 target 35 lun 0 (pass47,da35) > at scbus12 target 36 lun 0 (pass48,da36) > at scbus12 target 37 lun 0 (pass49,da37) > at scbus12 target 38 lun 0 (pass50,da38) > at scbus12 target 39 lun 0 (pass51,da39) > at scbus13 target 0 lun 0 (pass52,da40) > at scbus13 target 1 lun 0 (pass53,da41) > at scbus13 target 2 lun 0 (pass54,da42) > at scbus13 target 3 lun 0 (pass55,da43) > at scbus13 target 4 lun 0 (pass56,da44) > at scbus13 target 5 lun 0 (pass57,da45) > at scbus13 target 6 lun 0 (pass58,da46) > at scbus13 target 7 lun 0 (pass59,da47) > at scbus13 target 8 lun 0 (pass60,da48) > at scbus13 target 9 lun 0 (pass61,da49) > at scbus13 target 10 lun 0 (pass62,da50) > at scbus13 target 11 lun 0 (pass63,da51) > at scbus13 target 12 lun 0 (pass64,da52) > at scbus13 target 13 lun 0 (pass65,da53) > at scbus13 target 14 lun 0 (pass66,da54) > at scbus13 target 15 lun 0 (pass67,da55) > at scbus13 target 16 lun 0 (pass68,da56) > at scbus13 target 17 lun 0 (pass69,da57) > at scbus13 target 18 lun 0 (pass70,da58) > at scbus13 target 19 lun 0 (pass71,da59) > at scbus13 target 20 lun 0 (pass72,da60) > at scbus13 target 21 lun 0 (pass73,da61) > at scbus13 target 22 lun 0 (pass74,da62) > at scbus13 target 23 lun 0 (pass75,da63) > at scbus13 target 24 lun 0 (pass76,da64) > at scbus13 target 25 lun 0 (pass77,da65) > at scbus13 target 26 lun 0 (pass78,da66) > at scbus13 target 27 lun 0 (pass79,da67) > at scbus13 target 28 lun 0 (pass80,da68) > at scbus13 target 29 lun 0 (pass81,da69) > at scbus13 target 30 lun 0 (pass82,da70) > at scbus13 target 31 lun 0 (pass83,da71) > at scbus13 target 32 lun 0 (pass84,da72) > at scbus13 target 33 lun 0 (pass85,da73) > at scbus13 target 34 lun 0 (pass86,da74) > at scbus13 target 35 lun 0 (pass87,da75) > at scbus13 target 36 lun 0 (pass88,da76) > at scbus13 target 37 lun 0 (pass89,da77) > at scbus13 target 38 lun 0 (pass90,da78) > at scbus13 target 39 lun 0 (pass91,da79) > > Again, thanks in advance! > > -- > FF > -- FF From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 19:44:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197AC152CE14 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 006C38054B for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown 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From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 006C38054B X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.43 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx32.harte-lyne.ca]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.90), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.94), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 19:44:59 -0000 On Fri, March 15, 2019 14:05, Kirk Coombs wrote: > > >> On Mar 14, 2019, at 9:28 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> >> Is it possible to move a vmware guest image (whatever it is >> called) to byhive? What is the conversion process if this >> is at all possible? > > I haven't tried it, but perhaps with qemu-img? From > https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve: > > Kirk I am awaiting delivery of the vmware image. I will try out the instructions at the bhyve site when I have something to work with. In the meantime, as a trial, I am attempting to copy a KVM vm running CentOS-6 from its CentOS host to a bhyve instance on FreeBSD-11.1. The source KVM guest is already in raw format but, it consists of two 32 GB virtual disks which themselves are lvm volumes on the host. I am somewhat perplexed as to how to proceed. I do not wish to disturb the existing vm on its host, just use it as a source for the transfer experiment. I have considered using vmware vCenter Converter for the Linux side and then using the vm to bhyve instructions on FreeBSD. At the moment I cannot even get a new CentOS bhyve vm to boot so I have doubts about getting something this complex to work. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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And even if you did, they are probably not compatible with the FreeBSD sources and requirements. The kernel build process expects C compiler, assembler, linker, and several other tools to work in a specific way. Sure, there is WSL available nowadays, but the L in there means Linux, and the problem would shift to building the FreeBSD kernel (or userland) on Linux. I'm not saying this is entirely impossible, but it seems to be an incredible waste of time to get "Windows" to do something it is not designed to do. ;-) The easiest way to build the FreeBSD is to install a free virtual machine product for "Windows", and run a FreeBSD instance inside it. This makes sure you will have all the tools required to build the build chain (!), the OS and kernel. You can then transfer the results out of the VM using virtual storage or virtual network, in case you want to use them on "Windows"... Check the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile for details, as well as "man 7 build". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I also reinstalled all the packages and, I > believe, ports. I didn't, however, run mergemaster or: > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > nor do I recall being prompted to do so during the upgrading process. > (Maybe I wasn't paying attention.) > > Can I get ntpd to run if I ran: > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > Thanks to everyone who responded. Your comments and suggestions were most helpful. I ran: pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd on one of my computers and rebooted it when it was done. I got the following message in the startup output: ntpd[755]: pid file /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid: Permission denied I checked the file and found that the file has the number 789 in it. By comparison, I have two systems that have fresh installations of FreeBSD 12.0. Neither of them had the problem with ntpd that I mentioned in my original post. I just checked the file on one of them and found that it has the number 885. My question, now, is this: is the condition mentioned in the message I got on the upgraded machine a problem? Is the difference in the ntpd.pid files something to be concerned about? Meanwhile, the computer's clock appears to be running properly as I reset my watch and the both are synchonized, so it seems that problem has been resolved. Thanks. BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 16 23:02:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D98B1541061 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF8BE80F10 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.208.84]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MhToz-1gaebb33J5-00eetM; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 00:02:32 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 00:02:32 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start Message-Id: <20190317000232.58fbb60b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Gpy4AUaL5dsxftU/ILDYlr3QZa5LWSi+acLkbTQ2MbXBaqpZzzf JyYByflXnHV11AG64MZyeju4GYd99Yc0U6hZNkmi3BYf8EY4bIW7wz1gUrjlUGxAUm58q90 THSub5kfcaOCyNdUjEMjDJfYZE065Xq5rBVG3o+L4aFiHIx+c7yZv+0RViGDTeUFGiyc5FG rp2Bjb4M6ZE7ijp0+nXUg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CtLnub4DB9s=:j/OixDMvzvoVqYZOxMXDnp Zr2QIqFIBNYO/pGBily5l25ZBUKrp9E2Kd4YGyST2neuuK5nAUny5UOD7KtQFnnoqZIFxZVGy pocW7QMbgeRNMgaVPJbl5/HJ400ANZxLQeb1PFu5/kN/4Zs/AgyPJ6pJ9XHswOLZTkaRI+QQv ptxnUsS49dFTGcUTnLToTWa4VEM7PgOmUGZE76LORAZWLUoPhhHSgBUD57ZqWZZnF/azriblV FhZ3YKZUvqco3ofwyhiVTTU11ZC4us8vuOM/343yN7OCmOjsabKvVRNn6tAfJRHAf/OKaOgpS IgA7wq9brTk1ZE5CtMhGsfWvWMseaMG6b9YXjQF/uaZCjSM2eIxA/LCYLn2YTKCVey+wQhpNK ot/abo4i1tWmZJGQuUXuMq01yWlt/tsjHNm62bf4kvaIz0i2FriJAdz3/z2Xh3SVefHfZBNsZ vSrTicFKPEYlzCD98x+mrXlMOMMPURPzfBBpsc1OcYLkM4DpHMqHWqY+JH/SaqeAvi81GDfUg 1ija/B9GNBp+tWy2YD5IaAItrP0lvBZOZNVSEgkKArJ5svd4+2/jAXG3bq5cU3sV2gQ8zH0d0 EUHc2SmYGTP5+2R3+Az8ddpJ0+6QLolgOanBEq9ZcCAbGSys5b/XOXAEmRQJANs59zI8H4ZPD wayiuN+8A7tKfh5ke8nAFePwOWCWLJjJ+HBufCfqRZ5KN3SewkYRdfXAX50dd7Sl0fyETody3 RkFL2T8b14fspsTSwa/SEuSyoy63qmM/VKkpJ1H5jyThq/ydP4gw7DSZTRc= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CF8BE80F10 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.42 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[84.208.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.68)[0.678,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.921,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.995,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.44)[ip: (0.47), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.03), asn: 8560(1.70), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:02:37 -0000 On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 22:39:07 +0000, B J wrote: > I ran: > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > on one of my computers and rebooted it when it was done. I got the > following message in the startup output: > > ntpd[755]: pid file /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid: Permission denied > > I checked the file and found that the file has the number 789 in it. > > By comparison, I have two systems that have fresh installations of > FreeBSD 12.0. Neither of them had the problem with ntpd that I > mentioned in my original post. I just checked the file on one of them > and found that it has the number 885. > > My question, now, is this: is the condition mentioned in the message > I got on the upgraded machine a problem? Is the difference in the > ntpd.pid files something to be concerned about? The .pid file contains the process identification ("PID") refering to the ntpd process. If you run the command # ps aux | grep ntpd you should see that number in the 2nd column. However, the error message seems to indicate a permission problem for that file, i. e., the ntpd process cannot (re)write that file. Check the permissions: # ls -l /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid It should have the owner and group set correctly for the "new" environment (the one with the dedicated ntpd user account). It could also be a problem with the directory the file resides in. Check that one with: # ls -ld /var/db/ntp Again, make sure the owner and group (as well as the permission bits) are set correctly. > Meanwhile, the computer's clock appears to be running properly as I > reset my watch and the both are synchonized, so it seems that problem > has been resolved. The ntpd service will be started, but the process file that probably contains a wrong PID could lead to problems if you want to restart the service. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 16 23:16:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E811815415F4 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay4-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay4-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.185]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27602815D8 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=XAz9SldPsdTh34DmTAE0YOo9Zfp4f9J3noBdk9bqnUA=; b=Yqb5EOZu1L/4UDQHkhl5w6I4yZExWrZ5uhqUucMxer1uzdXIpmjWrbhHRiXuqLHL/RWie+3Buo0iy srZA/u0yN3t4lO/1sfkyZNJb7Nuj2YgmeMnrw3dudbwn5rEZLj5ZPAgkJ51ORx8UrQW+86mhgw267k nyyw89IayaRwwNl8= X-HalOne-Cookie: 2ae2868f9209ad6bb47147c9f8894cd716b31c40 X-HalOne-ID: 49945a00-483f-11e9-a598-d0431ea8bb10 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.165.244.175]) by mailrelay4.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 49945a00-483f-11e9-a598-d0431ea8bb10; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <0b43095ae814bfd99a81c773ff248217dec4e01f.camel@smormegpa.no> Subject: Re: Upgraded 11.2 -> 12.0, ntpd Won't Start From: Matthias Oestreicher To: B J , freebsd-questions Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 00:00:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 27602815D8 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=Yqb5EOZu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.81)[0.805,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.47)[0.469,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[185.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx2.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx3.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.24)[0.238,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.54)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.60), asn: 51468(1.16), country: DK(-0.04)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 23:16:42 -0000 Am Samstag, den 16.03.2019, 22:39 +0000 schrieb B J: > On 3/15/19, B J wrote: > > Before I did the upgrade, I ran ntpd by putting > > > > ntpd_enable="YES" > > > > in: > > > > /etc/rc.conf > > > > Now, when I boot my computer, I get: > > > > Security policy loaded: MAC/ntpd (mac_ntpd) > > Starting ntpd. > > su: unknown login: ntpd > > /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start ntpd > > > > The upgrade to 12.0 was done with the following: > > > > freebsd-update fetch > > freebsd-update install > > freebsd-update -r 12.0-RELEASE upgrade > > > > I restarted the machine and ran: > > > > /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install > > > > when prompted to do so. I also reinstalled all the packages and, I > > believe, ports. I didn't, however, run mergemaster or: > > > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > > > nor do I recall being prompted to do so during the upgrading process. > > (Maybe I wasn't paying attention.) > > > > Can I get ntpd to run if I ran: > > > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > > > > > Thanks to everyone who responded. Your comments and suggestions were > most helpful. > > I ran: > > pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > > on one of my computers and rebooted it when it was done. I got the > following message in the startup output: > > ntpd[755]: pid file /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid: Permission denied > > I checked the file and found that the file has the number 789 in it. > > By comparison, I have two systems that have fresh installations of > FreeBSD 12.0. Neither of them had the problem with ntpd that I > mentioned in my original post. I just checked the file on one of them > and found that it has the number 885. > > My question, now, is this: is the condition mentioned in the message > I got on the upgraded machine a problem? Is the difference in the > ntpd.pid files something to be concerned about? > > Meanwhile, the computer's clock appears to be running properly as I > reset my watch and the both are synchonized, so it seems that problem > has been resolved. > >From /usr/ports/updating in FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE 20180719: New uid:gid added, ntpd:ntpd (123:123). Be sure to run mergemaster or take steps to update /etc/passwd before doing installworld on existing systems. Do not skip the "mergemaster -Fp" step before installworld, as described in the update procedures near the bottom of this document. Also, rc.d/ntpd now starts ntpd(8) as user ntpd if the new mac_ntpd(4) policy is available, unless ntpd_flags or the ntp config file contain options that change file/dir locations. When such options (e.g., "statsdir" or "crypto") are used, ntpd can still be run as non-root by setting ntpd_user=ntpd in rc.conf, after taking steps to ensure that all required files/dirs are accessible by the ntpd user. % grep ntpd /etc/group ntpd:*:123: The ntpd user is missing when you are upgrading from pre FreeBSD 12-RELEASE. Create the group and you should be fine. Regards Matthias > Thanks. > > BMJ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"