From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 26 10:16:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D381159883A for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 10:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcaggiano@buildingstars.com) Received: from atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F344F8229E for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 10:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcaggiano@buildingstars.com) Received: from atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.48]) by atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x4QAAAJ8026088 for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 06:10:10 -0400 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01pod6.registeredsite.com [10.30.71.209]) by atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x4QAA4do008172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 06:10:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 17959 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2019 10:10:04 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 98.229.50.146 X-Authenticated-UID: gcaggiano@buildingstars.com Received: from unknown (HELO 127.0.0.1) (gcaggiano@buildingstars.com@98.229.50.146) by 0 with ESMTPA; 26 May 2019 10:09:50 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Mike Broman" Subject: application Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 12:09:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F344F8229E X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.74 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ip: (0.90), ipnet: 209.17.112.0/21(0.26), asn: 19871(0.20), country: US(-0.06)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.61)[0.607,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.989,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID(4.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[119.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 10:16:14 -0000 How is your day? My name is Mike Broman and I'm interested in a position. I've attached a copy of my resume. Password is 123 Best regards! -- Mike Broman From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 26 10:36:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22E8159F157 for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 10:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3609382B2A for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 10:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.118] (helo=smtp10.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hUqW8-0004rt-CM; Sun, 26 May 2019 12:36:40 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp10.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hUqW8-0003EL-7h; Sun, 26 May 2019 12:36:40 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (Amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 631A63433254; Sun, 26 May 2019 12:36:39 +0200 (CEST) From: freebsd@boosten.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: application Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 12:36:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions To: Mike Broman References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=AMnWcezf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=E5NmQfObTbMA:10 a=IQkCWGCtAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=BV8PIrpw43f8hl1Be0oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=acG8gDhrqhfBwc0UlmUA:9 a=EI4jjo8q8EWyNc00:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=P-7dT0Rp5-BDmImCe-OE:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3609382B2A X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[boosten.dyndns.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.753,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[164.34.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=ra]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.39)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-2.12), asn: 33915(0.14), country: NL(0.01)]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.30)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 10:36:52 -0000 Hi Mike, Here=E2=80=99s a CSS position especially for you: .mikebroman { position: relative; } Have fun. Peter > Op 26 mei 2019, om 12:09 heeft Mike Broman = het volgende geschreven: >=20 > How is your day? > My name is Mike Broman and I'm interested in a position. >=20 > I've attached a copy of my resume. > Password is 123 >=20 > Best regards! >=20 > -- > Mike Broman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 26 20:18:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B1115AFB32 for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 20:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F22A86D411 for ; Sun, 26 May 2019 20:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: application Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 14:18:14 -0600 References: To: RW via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F22A86D411 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.838,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.958,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.32)[ip: (-1.05), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.37), asn: 209(-0.10), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.713,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 20:18:24 -0000 On 26 May 2019, at 04:36, Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions = wrote: > .mikebroman { position: relative; } =F0=9F=A4=A3 --=20 "I'm not bad; I'm just drawn that way." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 27 08:28:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F1C15BD0EC for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 08:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffery.lin@clienthubmarketing.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x441.google.com (mail-pf1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::441]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D32889E2B for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 08:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffery.lin@clienthubmarketing.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x441.google.com with SMTP id y11so4312010pfm.13 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 01:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=clienthubmarketing.com; s=google; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-language:thread-index; bh=PoUAbZ//MC08nW3m8wXBkrORo/Et+94EfPCCFXMijAM=; b=Y3yCrNGdDbDG/Es0x7Y3rrQs4JF2daq3JH/UVr6sAfw37czZ6rn12gP+QEArHvHhq6 FSNSR+3DEpY02Vg3UX0SiJ8bXdiQQMdl5LWEnMKVwjtMPmeJWXKnBE7KuxZVPch2hT8L p6fQC5P2zhk3dyXEJBctnC8Kt4VM800Qtsz8Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-language:thread-index; bh=PoUAbZ//MC08nW3m8wXBkrORo/Et+94EfPCCFXMijAM=; b=Rep7QVtZTy+pWVAxDCbejbKODeEeptKPOJITd4cscGZ3luO83AN4ARKDdpBGXrfc4c 7rhX8FO1s0Y+pxN4Jg0UsH6zn2mmYN3w2/EAo/G3e52wXn/HojeJ00Jx4ktEDgXnolTD 0PUIBsJyJb9PxTS2UZMIEp3kRySdWtmHfOHKP2DlGCPZ/Cy63a4tI3ZwPdBp/ApE77Kx KmfqEryqgsJZTXS1yzsGBeWGElIBIwDDNAeUeBK7MP1i0mIu6X8KpB8O5NZNxV44ope6 bW641ljAHKn4HdBCqsHZelmHrBqt0RPt9HUP2cq3hQHRzhCio+2znfq6SIsZ1kdIIWXw 5NOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXWNfe0gkuKC50kCZrEwVU5wdIuxYlrmSxK/YE0CyGUmUeJ3H9E EXNPc73kQsdlMXrkbomvhsYqEc1ehYY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxi9m7bV3LjyJuK0ZWMC0LnruiiWad9ieJtQQ6RY54xqYgxX2yTMiIncJj8XGcDu7n2g2Ecdg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:4f16:: with SMTP id d22mr82013892pgb.148.1558945311920; Mon, 27 May 2019 01:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AdminPC ([157.49.209.25]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v9sm9636096pfm.34.2019.05.27.01.21.50 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 May 2019 01:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffery Lin X-Google-Original-From: "Jeffery Lin" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: The Energy Fair Attendee list 2019 Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 04:20:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdURS7V2qEz+EGh0QI2CrSSYHeRNFwDGQBkQ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8D32889E2B X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=clienthubmarketing.com header.s=google header.b=Y3yCrNGd; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jeffery.lin@clienthubmarketing.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::441 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jeffery.lin@clienthubmarketing.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.07 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[clienthubmarketing.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.862,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[25.209.49.157.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DBL_SPAM(6.50)[clienthubmarketing.com.dbl.spamhaus.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.55)[-0.546,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[clienthubmarketing.com:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[clienthubmarketing.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.95)[ip: (0.90), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.30), asn: 15169(-2.29), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.935,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 08:28:57 -0000 Hi Did you had a chance to review my email ? Let me know your thoughts. Looking forward to hear from you. Jeffery Lin From: Jeffery Lin [mailto:Jeffery.Lin@clienthubmarketing.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:42 AM To: 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org' Subject: The Energy Fair Attendee list 2019 Importance: High Hi Would you be interested in The Energy Fair Attendee list 2019? which includes complete contact details and verified email address. Could you please let me know your thoughts? In turn, I'll get back with precise counts and pricing details for your consideration. Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks and Regards! Jeffery Marketing Coordinator If you do not wish to receive future emails from us, please reply as 'leave out' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 27 17:39:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A6815A6B06 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 17:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38B4976D28 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 17:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x4RHNrDn065686 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 13:23:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 13:23:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ssh timeout question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Mon, 27 May 2019 13:23:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 38B4976D28 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com designates 198.74.231.101 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.74.231.101]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.00)[0.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.802,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[bucksport.safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.78)[0.777,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:198.74.228.0/22, country:US]; IP_SCORE(0.53)[asn: 11288(2.72), country: US(-0.06)]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 17:39:55 -0000 I have broadband service from three different providers: Verizon (MD), Spectrum (FL) and Shentel (VA) so I can say with certainty that this is a function of the modem. ssh connections FreeBSD <---> FreeBSD do not time out. The timeouts appear to be a function of either NAT, DHCP or the number of active connections the router can maintain. My current question is with Verizon FIOS using the (latest??) modem AC1750 Wi-Fi (G1100). I have a home connection (100 mbps) and a business connection (150 mbps) both have the same characteristics. On Verizon (biz) I currently have 24 active and inactive DHCP connections. I do not appear to be hitting any limit here. Connections do not time out except on any ssh connection running pine. The last time I checked pine it does not make any imap requests except when checking for new mail. I'm using the default (150 secs). The other providers modems timeout connections so when I could not find a keepalive setting that worked, I wrote a script to print a character every so often (300 secs works for me). Verizon happily times out pine connections in 2-3 hours. My keepalive script has no effect. I am not sure of the minimum but around 3 hours seems to be the max. Verizon of course says the do not time out connections. Probably true for their network. Not for the modem IMO. Anyone with similar experience or know workarounds? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 27 20:27:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BAD15AA3B6 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 20:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkreme@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-x133.google.com (mail-it1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 522CE84CB8 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 20:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkreme@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-x133.google.com with SMTP id h11so780182itf.5 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=7pErAuXYHuebP33BXLyD0KzABuHOC1Wu2Q8qgFYsf+8=; b=dXLAvLx+bz0msvJEqI9tLcoenFbYLqu9/n3hlSDzBcbEhNiBA94BSBydsezlomDZ+F WFQknuSLOZa9oOhJSZ/6jnMcAdr41PRMOluUYIUilXF8aeUxInA18s/CfcHnZwzXJ3JS SLpi5S821pdpKUuVYUv88kPQZqP6qQM1YNMJRv5JmRB+MulEqfK3xGCOdQwTVhTXEVvq Qzf8scpCnvvzXcA/Pi0KVZe6qhabrbkOw69Cu95g77DtDjrZITLf2Hj17re86TLaqELI DN6PUZTs/Wj+4wMEiMQCV5Eeetot35cMLpPC//04S5Uz6j2dCU17Vyut9M5oN8JtSZSs PnbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=7pErAuXYHuebP33BXLyD0KzABuHOC1Wu2Q8qgFYsf+8=; b=Uw5ZE0vmuxcHa0JtjxQFcuktOCILgznJrLujIVrsgyI4YV1S2kv2/ipnpoyEdGchE0 CQg5naZh8I6L+17UA5zLnfROerDgrT31adE44creG1Eohb3ALXBG03vi7xScrneiXywD shkD7RSX5qAe6AsBAj9Ox8bhqZbxrSD2GbMqAjtxh3hqqmbRCFahnCqcm4zVft97+oy6 F0SaiwRZptwdph1WWKyz387rbsM8swZilmBrKkF9lg/mEKhDYz9EYJd5gPpQ1Af3kKyR CfSItkCg/5Dvo32GYgObtI+bx+X1/0ZXDJ4yUArWtuyWuLENI7cgimnyzLkevatJJDIh HCTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVOKwIXROCH9Yno4uSOURjn9Iym2Aa8jeRKEE89/QuljGFGSK4W 258WLRZ6icGkEgaVH+o0xDlDoBsaCmo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqziJSTSz/TtmVGzbg43+CB5FNhnLxTrPXg6wH2wU12niUUDC9nULYC3H+nMB7EqTazPTjYq4g== X-Received: by 2002:a02:c885:: with SMTP id m5mr6847637jao.101.1558988838614; Mon, 27 May 2019 13:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darth.lan (c-73-14-161-160.hsd1.co.comcast.net. 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My only experience with Verizon was trying to fix a family member's = connection, which involved a constant stream of lies from Verizon. We = could watch the modem drop the connection by observing the lights while = Verizon claimed the connection was stable and had been for days. OTOH, this was at least 10 years ago. Still, I have been thankful ever since that I do not live in the part of = the country apportioned to Verizon. --=20 Updated to be PRCE compatible after 400 years: /(bb|[^b]{2})/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 09:49:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3137F15BC644 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 09:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43F5770A2D for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 09:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail25.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.25]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0649E1C0009 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 09:48:47 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:18:47 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel and most of userland : c : which edition? 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(jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@108.53.192.121) by mail.tridentusa.com with SMTP; 28 May 2019 07:37:36 -0400 From: John Johnstone Subject: Re: ssh timeout question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Message-ID: <8daaed74-b18c-7b3d-12ff-baa76f894bfc@tridentusa.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 07:37:36 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9FC1475A30 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com designates 96.225.19.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.15 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail1.tridentusa.com,mail.tridentusa.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:96.225.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tridentusa.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.34)[0.338,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.25)[asn: 701(1.29), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.481,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 11:44:22 -0000 On 5/27/19 1:23 PM, Doug Denault wrote: > I have broadband service from three different providers: Verizon (MD), > Spectrum > (FL) and Shentel (VA) so I can say with  certainty that this is a function > of the modem. ssh connections FreeBSD <---> FreeBSD do not time out. > > The timeouts appear to be a function of either NAT, DHCP or the number > of active > connections the router can maintain. My current question is with Verizon > FIOS > using the (latest??) modem AC1750 Wi-Fi (G1100). I have a home connection > (100 mbps) and a business connection (150 mbps) both have the same > characteristics. When I had a Verizon MI424WR I had trouble keeping ssh sessions active from a MacOS laptop to a FreeBSD server. On my laptop I created ~/.ssh/config with: ServerAliveInterval 30 and it solved the problem. TCP connection timeouts are a problem due to the timeout values for active states that the router maintains in its state table. Once your system at home completes the SYN, SYN/ACK, ACK handshake to the remote system, the router makes an IP address / port number entry for that connection in his state table. When either of the endpoints explicitly close the connection, the router detects this and deletes the corresponding state in the state table. The router also expires the state when the connection remains idle for longer than router's state timeout value. Any packets that are sent by the endpoints after that are just dropped or rejected since there is no longer any matching state in the state table. It's very common for HTTP connections between web browsers and servers to also go idle before they are explicitly closed. This results in the states being removed prematurely by the router. This isn't noticed by the user though since the browser just opens a new connection to the server. My guess would be that DHCP or number of active connections are not a factor in your case. I also now have a Verizon G1100. I still have my .ssh/config file with ServerAliveInterval set to 30 and I'm able to maintain ssh sessions for many hours as long as the laptop is not set to sleep. > On Verizon (biz) I currently have 24 active and inactive DHCP > connections. I do > not appear to be hitting any limit here. Connections do not time out > except on > any ssh connection running pine. The last time I checked pine it does > not make > any imap requests except when checking for new mail. I'm using the > default (150 > secs). The other providers modems timeout connections so when I could > not find a > keepalive setting that worked, I wrote a script to print a character > every so > often (300 secs works for me). Running a tcpdump session at both ends of your connections to monitor the activity and looking at the packet timestamps should be pretty conclusive to see exactly what is happening. > Verizon happily times out pine connections in 2-3 hours. My keepalive > script has > no effect. I am not sure of the minimum but around 3 hours seems to be > the max. > Verizon of course says the do not time out connections. Probably true > for their > network. Not for the modem IMO. Anyone with similar experience or know > workarounds? - John J. 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This > results in the states being removed prematurely by the router. This > isn't noticed by the user though since the browser just opens a new > connection to the server. > > My guess would be that DHCP or number of active connections are not a > factor in your case. I doubt it's to do with timing out an idle connection since pine is polling for new mail ever 150s. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 17:56:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C2815A7043 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 17:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A92C8AC40 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 17:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAC433C58; Tue, 28 May 2019 13:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B4A36187EE8; Tue, 28 May 2019 13:50:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mayuresh Kathe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel and most of userland : c : which edition? References: <58c53e2e6bc1942004bc9f7fac7d6f80@kathe.in> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 13:50:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <58c53e2e6bc1942004bc9f7fac7d6f80@kathe.in> (Mayuresh Kathe's message of "Tue, 28 May 2019 15:18:47 +0530") Message-ID: <44sgsy8o40.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6A92C8AC40 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.04 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.44)[-0.437,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.51)[0.509,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.935,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.09), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.07), asn: 7922(0.10), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:56:59 -0000 Mayuresh Kathe writes: > which edition of c is-being/has-been used to write the majority of the > kernel and userland? > illumos people are mandating c99 for all new code and have heard about > them taking the efforts to migrate old code to c99 too. > is there any such movement in coding standards happening in > freebsd-land too? See "man 7 style" but the basic gist is that c99 is expected for new code and that updating older code to c99 is typical practice when changing that code for other reasons. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 18:42:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A804D15A8579 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 18:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF0B08C757 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 18:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x4SIgMGd030761 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh timeout question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Tue, 28 May 2019 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AF0B08C757 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com designates 198.74.231.101 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.74.231.101]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.65)[0.649,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.74)[0.744,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[bucksport.safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.88)[0.882,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:198.74.228.0/22, country:US]; IP_SCORE(0.53)[asn: 11288(2.71), country: US(-0.06)]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 18:42:29 -0000 On Tue, 28 May 2019, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2019 07:37:36 -0400 > John Johnstone wrote: > > >> It's very common for HTTP connections between web browsers and >> servers to also go idle before they are explicitly closed. This >> results in the states being removed prematurely by the router. This >> isn't noticed by the user though since the browser just opens a new >> connection to the server. >> >> My guess would be that DHCP or number of active connections are not a >> factor in your case. > > I doubt it's to do with timing out an idle connection since pine is > polling for new mail ever 150s. Thank you all for comments and suggestions. It would not have occurred to me to set the keep-alive value that small, I will try that. That is a lot less irritating than my print a char script that mucks up emails. In google I found someone suggesting setting "IPQoS throughput" in $HOME/.ssh/config. I am going to try both when I next go to a 100% fail location. I'll report back. I also find it strange that sitting in pine triggers the timeout but sitting idle for days does not. 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[73.14.161.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v139sm1645827itb.25.2019.05.28.12.00.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 May 2019 12:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Google Kreme From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: ssh timeout question Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 13:00:33 -0600 References: <8daaed74-b18c-7b3d-12ff-baa76f894bfc@tridentusa.com> To: RW via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <8daaed74-b18c-7b3d-12ff-baa76f894bfc@tridentusa.com> Message-Id: <3C8F1DFF-55B0-4A05-9B7B-B05B64676999@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7186F8CDBE X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JlA0JFs/; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gkreme@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gkreme@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.32 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kremels@kreme.com,gkreme@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kremels@kreme.com,gkreme@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.66)[ip: (-7.62), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.31), asn: 15169(-2.29), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:00:37 -0000 On 28 May 2019, at 05:37, John Johnstone = wrote: > I also now have a Verizon G1100. I still have my .ssh/config file = with ServerAliveInterval set to 30 and I'm able to maintain ssh sessions = for many hours as long as the laptop is not set to sleep. It's not a bad idea to at least test this, but I do not have = ~/.ssh/config at all and my Mac maintains a ssh connection for weeks at = a time. Basically, unless I reboot my FreeBSD server or reboot my Mac, = the connection stays up. --=20 Ninety percent of true love is acute, ear-burning embarrassment. --Wyrd Sisters From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 19:13:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD6815A8FBB for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 154C88D51D for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.181.42]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MhDN4-1h1KR11JDe-00eHxS; Tue, 28 May 2019 21:07:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 21:07:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Serpent7776 Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mayuresh Kathe Subject: Re: kernel and most of userland : c : which edition? 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Yes, "man 9 style" is correct: "FreeBSD Kernel Developer's Manual", "style -- kernel source file style guide". The style is followed in many parts of the userland, but especially contributed code from other platforms and vendors doesn't always follow the style recommendations. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 19:13:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A450F15A8FE6 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD68D54F for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43433C58; Tue, 28 May 2019 15:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EBF73187EE8; Tue, 28 May 2019 15:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Serpent7776 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mayuresh Kathe Subject: Re: kernel and most of userland : c : which edition? References: <58c53e2e6bc1942004bc9f7fac7d6f80@kathe.in> <44sgsy8o40.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190528204823.7e227123@DaemONX> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:13:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190528204823.7e227123@DaemONX> (Serpent's message of "Tue, 28 May 2019 20:48:23 +0200") Message-ID: <44muj68ka4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DCDD68D54F X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.622,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.268,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.927,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.09), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.07), asn: 7922(0.10), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:13:32 -0000 Serpent7776 writes: > On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:50:39 -0400 > Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> Mayuresh Kathe writes: >> >> > which edition of c is-being/has-been used to write the majority of the >> > kernel and userland? >> > illumos people are mandating c99 for all new code and have heard about >> > them taking the efforts to migrate old code to c99 too. >> > is there any such movement in coding standards happening in >> > freebsd-land too? >> >> See "man 7 style" but the basic gist is that c99 is expected for new >> code and that updating older code to c99 is typical practice when >> changing that code for other reasons. > > $ man 7 style > No manual entry for style > > Did you mean `man 9 style`? Yes, I did. In fact, I *should* have just said "man style" because there isn't any other. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 19:16:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FD415A9100 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F598D67B for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C663633C58 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 15:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 34DF7187EE8; Tue, 28 May 2019 15:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh timeout question References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:16:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Doug Denault's message of "Tue, 28 May 2019 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <44imtu8k54.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D8F598D67B X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.34)[0.344,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.06)[0.058,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.09), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.07), asn: 7922(0.10), country: US(-0.06)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:16:31 -0000 Doug Denault writes: > On Tue, 28 May 2019, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> I doubt it's to do with timing out an idle connection since pine is >> polling for new mail ever 150s. > > Thank you all for comments and suggestions. It would not have occurred > to me to set the keep-alive value that small, I will try that. That is > a lot less irritating than my print a char script that mucks up > emails. In google I found someone suggesting setting "IPQoS > throughput" in $HOME/.ssh/config. I am going to try both when I next > go to a 100% fail location. I'll report back. > > I also find it strange that sitting in pine triggers the timeout but > sitting idle for days does not. I don't run into issues with this because my remote sessions tend to have an application running that updates an on-screen time display every minute. That's not why I do it, of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 28 19:36:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1E315AA014 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5F018E643 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 19:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x4SJZuEg097299 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 21:35:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1559072156; bh=tzlbSd+nRt9ziWPx2CAA2XwOCt2GFRUxkgcfkPfzxgU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=a4v3IXOuVXXpM1Ol5NBUBzTcJIgnv8yP/nrlOaW+8chwGBPadBO8MoRWdFqjvfuvC 5lFR4GUvUNARV5N/x5vOHxfO2ouAqPsN4kNtH3VUGTo0WRy6BP6p2cOJbrgG9sdcSC CJu4NOe+jTzzuGVJ2CYbVT2FozW4/+k9DfPMWrWqQm6j8GnHtZWLMgBRcXz538dRCp 8vZqsdx/UlyoRX9/CbDdS++FZVCtpqWTS6Etw/bKIkC4+2+MJ/DoKc0C4GWeiqx/dI cTb42kp71UfAs3lYr41o0DMltR7v9JWENBjQTjJ6P835ej7askmcZHtjwuy7PlhLid tN4WYMZveegpw== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x4SJZuOR097296 for ; Tue, 28 May 2019 21:35:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 21:35:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh timeout question In-Reply-To: <44imtu8k54.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <44imtu8k54.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:36:05 -0000 On Tue, 28 May 2019 15:16-0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I don't run into issues with this because my remote sessions tend to > have an application running that updates an on-screen time display every > minute. That's not why I do it, of course. Unless you need X11 and/or port forwarding, why not try net/mosh? mosh uses ssh to bootstrap itself before it switches to a UDP based protocol running on a port > 60000. mosh is fairly resistant to packet loss and allows for seamless roaming. Roaming is limited to IPv4 or IPv6, depending on which protocol you chose when you did the initial connect. The use of screen or tmux is highly recommended. More information here: https://mosh.org -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 29 20:48:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A4015ACE0B for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 20:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B2786864 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FA44184D48; Wed, 29 May 2019 20:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x4TKmR5e031969; Wed, 29 May 2019 16:48:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x4TKmRLm031966; Wed, 29 May 2019 16:48:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 16:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh timeout question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <44imtu8k54.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90B2786864 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.919,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[fledge2.watson.org,cyrus.watson.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.128.107.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(2.61)[ip: (6.93), ipnet: 204.107.128.0/24(3.46), asn: 11288(2.70), country: US(-0.06)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:48:31 -0000 On Tue, 28 May 2019, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2019 15:16-0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> I don't run into issues with this because my remote sessions tend to >> have an application running that updates an on-screen time display every >> minute. That's not why I do it, of course. > > Unless you need X11 and/or port forwarding, why not try net/mosh? That is kind of the point, I use pine with a mouse. I was hoping someone might have any idea as to why running pine makes the session more likely to be timed out. Seems counterintuitive. When I first wrote my keep-alive script (over DSL) I did find that sending a or some other non-printing char did not stop timeouts. > mosh uses ssh to bootstrap itself before it switches to a UDP based > protocol running on a port > 60000. mosh is fairly resistant to packet > loss and allows for seamless roaming. Roaming is limited to IPv4 or > IPv6, depending on which protocol you chose when you did the initial > connect. The use of screen or tmux is highly recommended. More > information here: https://mosh.org We were thinking about using mosh with blink on IOS and kind of forgot. Thanks for the info. Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 29 20:50:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C565815ACED3 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 20:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F3186910 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 20:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51E23AF79 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 13:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Install -- Doesn't boot Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 13:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: <9845.1559162995@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 66F3186910 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.50)[-0.500,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.21)[-0.206,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:50:05 -0000 I just did a fresh from-scratch install of 12.0 onto a 1TB SATA drive using the memstick img file (dd'd onto a USB stick). All seemed to go just fine, and I made it all the way to the end with no problems. When asked if I wanted to reboot to the new system now I clicked yes, and when the system started to do the BIOS POST stuff I powered off and used the opportunity to remove the USB stick. Then powered on again. The machine -seemed- like it was starting to boot, but then after a few seconds, a BIOS screen came up. Bummer. I repeated to verify this apparent brokenness. I figured that this must be something to do with EFI so I went in and found a BIOS thing titled "Secure Boot menu". That gave me just two options, i.e. (1) Windows UEFI mode or (2) "Other OS". It -was- set to Windows UEFI mode. I changed that to "Other OS" and then power cycled again. Alas, still no joy. What am I doing wrong? Hardware is: CPU: i3-4130 (hyperthreading recently disabled in BIOS) Mobo: ASUS B85M-G Bios: AMI 2.10.1208 (w/ASUS enhancements?) Harddrive: WD1001FALS From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 29 23:42:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB57115B0DE7 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 23:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC89E8D0FF for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 23:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0273AE87 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 16:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] New Install -- Doesn't boot Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 16:42:38 -0700 Message-ID: <10367.1559173358@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EC89E8D0FF X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.85 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.49)[-0.485,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.82)[0.823,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.tristatelogic.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 23:42:41 -0000 After much fidling and experimentation, I can now say that when installing either 12.0-RELEASE or 11.2-RELEASE (and perhaps also earlier releases), under some circumstances (e.g. if one is doing "manual" partitioning using GPT) it may perhaps be of some considerable value to drop down into a shell and execute one or more of the following shell commands prior to actually performing the install: gpart destroy -F ada0 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ada0 bs=1M count=10 where "ada0" would, of course, be replaced by the FreeBSD name for the specific drive where one is planning to install the new OS. Anyway, these additional steps seem to have worked for me, and I am now successfully booting 12.0-RELEASE from the drive in question. Regards, rfg P.S. I am not qualified to comment on why either of the above shell commands might be either necessary or advisable when doing a fresh install on a drive which has already had all partitions removed, e.g. via the Linux gparted tool. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 30 06:13:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5365B15B931B for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 06:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 341C772B67 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 06:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: LuKreme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 00:13:36 -0600 Subject: Booting off usb installer Message-Id: <7E1E01CA-B02B-4476-B6C0-D5946D2E64F8@kreme.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16F156) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 341C772B67 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.959,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.31)[ip: (-1.04), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.36), asn: 209(-0.10), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.46)[0.461,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 06:13:46 -0000 I made a usb installer from FreeBSD-12.0-STABLE-amd64-20190510-r347397-memst= ick.img When I set my FreeBSD 11.2 machine to boot from the usb, it does so and I ge= t a normal looking boot menu, 1 for multi user, 2 for single user, etc. Whichever option I choose, 1 or 2, the machine starts to boot, but then rebo= ots before completion. If there is an error, it passes too quickly for me to= see it. At no point do I get an installer or a login prompt. The hardware is a 3rd? generation i5 and 8GB of RAM. Possibly a Dell machine= ? Should I instead be using the 12.0-RELEASE image? The machine does not have an optical drive in it. --=20 My main job is trying to come up with new and innovative and effective ways t= o reject even more mail. I'm up to about 97% now.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 30 18:14:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EB315A6C8E for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa2e.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A467D970B3 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa2e.google.com with SMTP id v140so949885vkd.7 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=25B3LOHKtk7YzdDZfx7gWMRaR2QHI2xsWm13Ue1qUKY=; b=nwF0U12Mm5RyZWyjU00o+61rFtI6LimzmkmN0x3KHn98Q3HZZg8nUZuVGojp/AZ3V3 uX+ZHx0MCXzUAkqHym869/A16dFUkNb/yU/U93imroAADoVN4AcVgaBvVUSjicHv7Ah7 iWwT2pH1rQOFarANQo3gZQZM6ygis5kTVTSHw9uMzD9G7xV5v4UdD7LhmD8WNCfE8Y7n 6pHvEwjOx5En2Cstkllt/KfYrRgIyOjjqpUZElJfVT1xFGYKTdIVWxYGwZ55PaTWh1ar eJCUcm+Y84XH5Uho5RmdpADR27X7Lps8G9faSUo8YkkeV4A1fwKNLK2FBTyQY7rxr+I4 2O1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=25B3LOHKtk7YzdDZfx7gWMRaR2QHI2xsWm13Ue1qUKY=; b=RCc4owmhb3CXJrWYdsJY4I7ir8XM5F5XQCM2ImUqcN1JIrZ0E5uEVDhX2rBFqjgEMI sYXE7Y/HLxbrf/nkcWRh/eL80QqXA9D/O45h3WqZrpbYxPTDrHha8QD9lAkC+QIYFOKb cgpRkhMluW77U8tQJxqwc2BZ4GjeP+aqQ21hgd3lPfw1+CStd4aC/KCrowZPGIPf5TGx 3dBFObyJl7tt/sEg+I2PRjhJEBdRYHpXU6oon6O5pUDkQnxFGyxm7V0RfsZ0Vq7EtXrS H5oVCjhw/eVC9xBPBUvYa0mxzrnnYqsAn7nCASGKS2zfjRAhjfuHUFbyuSbm8w81Oy8T UDPg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVbz6s0/4k9yTA43M5S+edRXh9Y6/3RB6+r/a/TmSquw7H7BGLb jD9Jhf0ap5EMv75G6+6eoSCV2jW2jjzn7KYPJtZSC5gB X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyqTNxmsT4yaW2Gn5wJNtWB8DL6WAMWIkDboQHlScH3SuH8XqI+tEFExfljaiNPGhCHJab38WAVVmydyWS707w= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:5084:: with SMTP id e126mr2161111vkb.53.1559240092642; Thu, 30 May 2019 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:32c1:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 30 May 2019 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:14:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: mounting memstick.img image on linux loopback? To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A467D970B3 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=nwF0U12M; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.01 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.935,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.06)[ip: (-9.71), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.28), asn: 15169(-2.28), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:14:54 -0000 Hello, Has anyone mounted and altered the memstick.img image on a linux machine via loopback? I'm wanting to alter the 12.0 memstick.img image so that it boots directly to a serial console with no user intervention. I've got several machines without monitors or keyboards that I need them to go directly to a serial terminal for install. Alternatively, if anyone has one of these i'd appreciate it if you could send it to me. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 30 19:01:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E550415A801A for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70A2369EFC for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.166.245]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MDeAZ-1hPWOu3Pmx-00Anen; Thu, 30 May 2019 21:01:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 21:01:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: LuKreme Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting off usb installer Message-Id: <20190530210109.d8163ac7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7E1E01CA-B02B-4476-B6C0-D5946D2E64F8@kreme.com> References: <7E1E01CA-B02B-4476-B6C0-D5946D2E64F8@kreme.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:k4PCe+Z+30LR0hVg4dkQt+Vi1tt3TjuWP1Ibu0v84DUkdfuVQ31 UTf8q1ta7EILasuQ2onOcokL/2QNlfISAeqkcrBH81CQO3uSnjVIOfXgaE1slZk+Su26vSe bMc317xXuH95lO1bavhkMty0gQ237jpKYzAQrw3AJykuOhEw6XYib7J0y+NiY1FMyRssThK GpNC+eZ8LVilJgPMOT/yw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JYPgqa3Wru0=:SlZI7wVazcVLjiOKVCT12A auxZHb0TNuxNiluXsRuLkTEyOlGLHWIW82rBdUyIdysXzALd0pF5lbU8RonGjT4ShyJbgTRZJ +I8gchVQBw2jKdwqfnIsi2Y0ZU0/P1tWielSAB0FfygQeseYr/Js+1A7eAdBu87na0XkNzQCK EXZtNMdy/Fa44UQWU5mdZ7maaCysxMle1Z6eqAMjdVqmZ9Mn3iOIIz2PEubfdw1yvhe3kzeeQ 7nbSTdVCL9iYOpsW5vtFn4mNz+ePEwScE3tc4Btqi0cE3jcy6kJ6rXNHsAYHE3/VRl6Rbo9IA zYaSkwxIRhhCMZQ0c6FYlu61cKARUfyLYRF/TOQ0cjZzZLSYj5w3UOsNPN1Lz35gq9dTjIWxW EIuFR/pRkcI492DXTpfD9qNX+DE2HKWUm6S5BxfibZzH8VRLtiBsDpvH1h5U/D+hOYU8KcZGX KdETrMSg4OmEhRtKj69EnQUmVrJDULs14KThXmW8c2xceXovMqS6z3q1ZIzcuKTYPqZN96Ogu gxaqvCWFQky2RKBFrjV8K3GibXwOA4HagH0eLCK2wkyFA+Hw4fKRydxVs0o1peq5Ce5i//s35 MlqU/3YA7bkVnVZdrnYn9bUsA9fmw8rS1EW8ylTTPXDhQGDe+wAQ8p3ECBn0kTxI3V/O3q6fI m9/zq/e0K/pzm/OCEnnhSRW2q/81+eDq69XTScyF6elGINeYAxWWMw3a+e+U6zcVVWwSLfdVs gyn8Hpge9TB6LBH5FxhhfbnKAYuFr3P6mN3eY1WuQ+u7BQyF7ozrg8YblqU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 70A2369EFC X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.92 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[245.166.103.188.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.963,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.995,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.57)[ip: (1.76), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.46), asn: 8560(2.58), country: DE(-0.00)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:01:27 -0000 On Thu, 30 May 2019 00:13:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > I made a usb installer from > FreeBSD-12.0-STABLE-amd64-20190510-r347397-memstick.img > > When I set my FreeBSD 11.2 machine to boot from the usb, it does so > and I get a normal looking boot menu, 1 for multi user, 2 for single > user, etc. > > Whichever option I choose, 1 or 2, the machine starts to boot, but > then reboots before completion. If there is an error, it passes too > quickly for me to see it. At no point do I get an installer or a > login prompt. > > The hardware is a 3rd? generation i5 and 8GB of RAM. Possibly a Dell > machine? > > Should I instead be using the 12.0-RELEASE image? Yes, definitely try that first. Keep in mind -STABLE is still a development branch, whereas the content of -RELEASE has been tested and verified more extensively. > The machine does not have an optical drive in it. Booting from USB should be standard today, as optical drives become less and less common. Just make sure you don't have any of the restricted boot ("Secure Boot") features activated that might prevent normal booting operations. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 31 12:09:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C69E15BBA40 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 12:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF4D6A835 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 12:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Daily Security is compiling about my backup drive Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 06:09:19 -0600 To: RW via freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1DF4D6A835 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.961,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.31)[ip: (-1.03), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.36), asn: 209(-0.10), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.61)[-0.612,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:09:28 -0000 The Daily Security update email that FreeBS generates is reporting a lot = of error on my /mnt/backup drive (like setuid errors). Is there a way to = let the periodic precess to ignore this mount point? --=20 No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 31 12:29:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B155615BC5D6 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 12:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4B196B3A0 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 12:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id l125so6513657vsl.13 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2Ak4UWmoFHsxBZC4FtkUJc9SnJ6TVSSN5IV/vPHbu/o=; b=oX6UsaG55rnILTD90v8ygn8XOqq8BREnmgqYJXg5EGAPe+SaYd0RxRcPkFuLSk/4Td ZMOTu9QWkr+GfiY0DyK28sUIAnWfE8ijvWHl66lmnA9zBZSb0NsZ1eXEtT+ovmA/+1gZ gJ/Zd6w2UO/9T8dGU0wLkaisyDe505ji0p9Po7IwoADprb8bJSqAmGhEFAR4R2oWQlNT cVC0bRdoAEO2cs2uyTp5OFNOpDu39bJ+EaMgOA6Jbv27EHHPNzNykLGYjtphvgJgygYj V1vd/+XsEifWyEhQodFgx2s13glDFA936R/C8HawUqpUPrtz/AYlu2z5l/n0LMA5+h/C D7tA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2Ak4UWmoFHsxBZC4FtkUJc9SnJ6TVSSN5IV/vPHbu/o=; b=c4MkALCNJiUx/oJwit6gp09+HxMZ0yRDF78hdY7No+vBam6ZPQ7Ot98gK1F+Dsgv1r fei1l4Z/clLtqwn6UwmocJDixRnVwvQI0ojNx1g7mW7d1GaHsEwtLJ0aZxHT2Twg2oK5 IVY/6ItEgOR0XYGk8VunuyHe+k2v0+EoqLi/LbFqwKRfp1bxC1sB82IgRx88RS0LnqYT 6DynnTUUIY8M3BCqqSdKYrirBwsarEYXCRsCECUkOn6sNG7qOp4hCrcTG8ovoD3FurVH 1dmZzKIfX4as39PjiJQmsJ8FaE7FYrL4Z8M1nVZtMYxPkmThGx77dn3GzC5g50+VSsCo T6rg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXmkDfzeGeskd5I6yzKj4AF769gr1/I+XhBRreNOH1blUHpnglx uwEGeeOIgsEOLboucKbrH1IoZMq+ilPQs620po9+Zlqx X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwyuncHsjnHGGgeJh7mBgdzmp5Q37A+eFGwce54DF1A2YtGxm3TBwTcQearDHX/pIRmLYm+79ce3aq3IKs8u+k= X-Received: by 2002:a67:fe99:: with SMTP id b25mr5116837vsr.75.1559305754966; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:29:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:32c1:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 31 May 2019 05:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 08:29:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: error when mounting md0 invalid argument To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D4B196B3A0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oX6UsaG5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-0.202,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:29:17 -0000 Hello, I've got a copy of the FreeBSD 12.0 memstick img file. I'm trying to mount it to make some changes to allow it to go serial terminal by default. I'm doing: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f path/to/img and have also added the -u0 option to that line as well. An mdconfig -l does indeed show /dev/md0 and file -s /dev/md0 shows dos/mbr imgage I believe that was. I then try: mount /dev/md0 /mnt and get invalid argument. Nothing in the logs. I've tried mount_msdosfs and mount_ufs same result invalid argument. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 31 13:03:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374DC15BD16D for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (mail.tridentusa.com [96.225.19.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C16946C632 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: (qmail 94597 invoked from network); 31 May 2019 13:03:40 -0000 Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (172.16.0.32) de/crypted with TLSv1: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA [256/256] DN=none by smtprelay.tridentusa.com with ESMTPS; 31 May 2019 13:03:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 56208 invoked from network); 31 May 2019 09:03:40 -0400 Received: from pool-108-53-192-121.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net (HELO ?192.168.1.156?) (jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@108.53.192.121) by mail.tridentusa.com with SMTP; 31 May 2019 09:03:40 -0400 From: John Johnstone Subject: Re: ssh timeout question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8daaed74-b18c-7b3d-12ff-baa76f894bfc@tridentusa.com> <3C8F1DFF-55B0-4A05-9B7B-B05B64676999@kreme.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:03:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3C8F1DFF-55B0-4A05-9B7B-B05B64676999@kreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C16946C632 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com designates 96.225.19.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.41)[-0.407,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tridentusa.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.78)[-0.780,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.631,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail1.tridentusa.com,mail.tridentusa.com]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[asn: 701(1.28), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:96.225.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 13:03:49 -0000 On 5/28/19 3:00 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > On 28 May 2019, at 05:37, John Johnstone wrote: >> I also now have a Verizon G1100. I still have my .ssh/config file with ServerAliveInterval set to 30 and I'm able to maintain ssh sessions for many hours as long as the laptop is not set to sleep. > > It's not a bad idea to at least test this, but I do not have ~/.ssh/config at all and my Mac maintains a ssh connection for weeks at a time. Basically, unless I reboot my FreeBSD server or reboot my Mac, the connection stays up. I put the ServerAliveInterval in place a long time ago and didn't test the need for it after that. I removed it and yes, connections are staying up without it. Packet monitoring shows TCP Keep-Alives are being sent every 2 hours. - John J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 31 21:33:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C146815C6408 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 21:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30DC285648 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 21:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 14:33:32 -0700 Subject: Re: error when mounting md0 invalid argument To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 14:33:16 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 21:33:35 -0000 On 5/31/19 5:29 AM, David Mehler wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a copy of the FreeBSD 12.0 memstick img file. I'm trying to > mount it to make some changes to allow it to go serial terminal by > default. I'm doing: > > mdconfig -a -t vnode -f path/to/img > and have also added the -u0 option to that line as well. > > An mdconfig -l does indeed show /dev/md0 and file -s /dev/md0 shows > dos/mbr imgage I believe that was. I then try: > > mount /dev/md0 /mnt > > and get invalid argument. Nothing in the logs. I've tried > mount_msdosfs and mount_ufs same result invalid argument. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Thanks. > Dave. I wanted to make changes to: FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img I burned the image to a USB flash drive and then mounted it: 2019-05-23 14:13:46 toor@ragnar ~ # camcontrol devlist | grep -i sandisk at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass5) 2019-05-23 14:16:27 toor@ragnar ~ # gpart show -p da0 => 1 7913470 da0 MBR (3.8G) 1 1600 da0s1 !239 (800K) 1601 1505616 da0s2 freebsd [active] (735M) 1507217 6406254 - free - (3.1G) 2019-05-23 14:17:24 toor@ragnar ~ # gpart show -p da0s2 => 0 1505616 da0s2 BSD (735M) 0 16 - free - (8.0K) 16 1505600 da0s2a freebsd-ufs (735M) 2019-05-23 14:17:53 toor@ragnar ~ # mount /dev/da0s2a /mnt 2019-05-23 14:18:04 toor@ragnar ~ # mount | grep da0s2a /dev/da0s2a on /mnt (ufs, local) The file system reads 100% full, but by working as root I can encroach into the reserved space and make changes to the BSD installer: 2019-05-23 14:18:18 toor@ragnar ~ # cd /mnt/usr/libexec/bsdinstall 2019-05-23 14:19:58 toor@ragnar /mnt/usr/libexec/bsdinstall # vi zfsboot If you have more than a little content to add, the proper way would be to start at the front end of whatever process creates the image. (I haven't learn that, yet.) David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 03:50:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B7215AA436 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 03:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09A9C69B5E for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 03:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x513mAJe007032 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 21:48:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: prusa code on fbsd? 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I just finished building an i3 mk3s and am wondering about trying to run their lynux builds or doing a port. I've been designing using freecad but was getting tests and slicing done at the local library which is running slicer code on windows. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 09:20:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520AD15ADA2D for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 09:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 215FB88E00 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 09:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF2C10195 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 10:20:41 +0100 (BST) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: security/acme-client gone? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 10:20:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 215FB88E00 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.73 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.mythic-beasts.com,mx2.mythic-beasts.com]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.07)[0.071,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.49)[ip: (-7.60), ipnet: 217.155.0.0/16(-3.80), asn: 13037(-0.96), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 09:20:58 -0000 I came to do my weekly port rebuild and poudriere complained that security/acme-client no longer exists. There's nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about it. Anyone know what's happened to it? -- What do we want? A time machine! When do we want it? Errm ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 10:48:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F14315B7672 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 10:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from smtp1.cretaforce.gr (smtp1.cretaforce.gr [159.69.10.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 114528B361 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 10:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40FDB1F94C for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 13:48:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (internet1-5-144-211-42.pat.ren.cosmote.net [5.144.211.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E07CA2730A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 13:48:26 +0300 (EEST) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: security/acme-client gone? Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 13:48:25 +0300 References: To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <59AB8F99-CEFF-44A0-B7C4-200F90D6C790@cretaforce.gr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 114528B361 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 159.69.10.232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.51)[-0.514,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.10.232]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.44)[-0.440,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.cretaforce.gr]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.333,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ipnet: 159.69.0.0/16(3.20), asn: 24940(-1.71), country: DE(-0.00)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[232.10.69.159.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 10:48:37 -0000 > I came to do my weekly port rebuild and poudriere complained that > security/acme-client no longer exists. There's nothing in > /usr/ports/UPDATING about it. Anyone know what's happened to it? Check this: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238073 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 11:47:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6334815BA02A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 11:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0C18CB1A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 11:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565501064B; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 12:47:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: security/acme-client gone? To: Christos Chatzaras , FreeBSD-Questions References: <59AB8F99-CEFF-44A0-B7C4-200F90D6C790@cretaforce.gr> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 12:47:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59AB8F99-CEFF-44A0-B7C4-200F90D6C790@cretaforce.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EB0C18CB1A X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mythic-beasts.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.772,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.40)[ip: (-7.32), ipnet: 217.155.0.0/16(-3.66), asn: 13037(-0.95), country: GB(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 11:47:11 -0000 On 01/06/2019 11:48, Christos Chatzaras wrote: > >> I came to do my weekly port rebuild and poudriere complained that >> security/acme-client no longer exists. There's nothing in >> /usr/ports/UPDATING about it. Anyone know what's happened to it? > > Check this: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238073 Thank you. A shame it was removed. I'll have to decide whether to keep using the old unsupported version or switch to acme.sh. Probably the latter when I have time. -- What do we want? A time machine! When do we want it? Errm ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 12:03:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9DE15BB14D for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 12:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from smtp2.cretaforce.gr (smtp2.cretaforce.gr [159.69.244.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B82D58D6F8 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 12:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp2.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0007D1F97A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 15:02:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (internet1-5-144-211-42.pat.ren.cosmote.net [5.144.211.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACA7A2730A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 15:02:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: security/acme-client gone? Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 15:02:47 +0300 References: <59AB8F99-CEFF-44A0-B7C4-200F90D6C790@cretaforce.gr> To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <086E7AEC-A22D-42F4-8FFA-CA14D88E208B@cretaforce.gr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B82D58D6F8 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 159.69.244.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.47 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.36)[0.362,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.09)[-0.087,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.244.42]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.19)[-0.192,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.cretaforce.gr]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 159.69.0.0/16(3.19), asn: 24940(-1.72), country: DE(-0.00)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.244.69.159.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 12:03:02 -0000 > On 1 Jun 2019, at 14:47, Arthur Chance wrote: > > On 01/06/2019 11:48, Christos Chatzaras wrote: >> >>> I came to do my weekly port rebuild and poudriere complained that >>> security/acme-client no longer exists. There's nothing in >>> /usr/ports/UPDATING about it. Anyone know what's happened to it? >> >> Check this: >> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238073 > > Thank you. A shame it was removed. I'll have to decide whether to keep > using the old unsupported version or switch to acme.sh. Probably the > latter when I have time. I switch to acme.sh It allows 300 SSL / 3 hours as it doesn't need seperate account for each SSL. With acme-client the limit was 10 SSL / 3 hours. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 18:50:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B6515C32BA for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E50672A0D for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 18:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 11:50:04 -0700 Subject: Re: error when mounting md0 invalid argument To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: <0bf3fbee-fe2a-ae2a-116e-09ac82cb18eb@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 11:50:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 18:50:09 -0000 On 6/1/19 5:04 AM, David Mehler wrote: > On 5/31/19, David Christensen wrote: >> On 5/31/19 5:29 AM, David Mehler wrote: >>> I've got a copy of the FreeBSD 12.0 memstick img file. I'm trying >>> to mount it to make some changes to allow it to go serial >>> terminal by default. >> FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img >> >> I burned the image to a USB flash drive and then mounted it: > Hi, > > Thanks, that helped. > > What alterations did you have to make? > > Thanks. Dave. I wanted system images to fit "16 GB" SSD's and USB flash drives, with wiggle room at the end to facilitate image migration: MBR scheme 14g slice 1g boot 1g swap 12g root free space Some of the above can be achieved via the FreeBSD 11.2 installer user interface, but others require changes to the installer script: 2019-06-01 11:28:11 toor@soho ~/FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick/usr/libexec/bsdinstall # cvs diff -r 1.1 zfsboot Index: zfsboot =================================================================== RCS file: /var/local/cvs/dpchrist/FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick/usr/libexec/bsdinstall/zfsboot,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -r1.1 -r1.7 50c50 < : ${ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off} --- > : ${ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off -O copies=2} 92c92 < : ${ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=} --- > : ${ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=-O copies=2} 102c102 < : ${ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_SIZE:=2g} --- > : ${ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_SIZE:=1g} 123c123 < : ${ZFSBOOT_SWAP_SIZE:=2g} --- > : ${ZFSBOOT_SWAP_SIZE:=1g} 133c133 < : ${ZFSBOOT_SWAP_MIRROR=} --- > : ${ZFSBOOT_SWAP_MIRROR=YES} 196a197 > GPART_ADD_ALIGN_WITH_SIZE='gpart add %s -t %s -s %s "%s"' 953c954 < # 2. Add freebsd slice with all available space --- > # 2. Add freebsd slice with size 14g 955,956c956,957 < f_eval_catch $funcname gpart "$GPART_ADD_ALIGN" "$align_small" \ < freebsd $disk || --- > f_eval_catch $funcname gpart "$GPART_ADD_ALIGN_WITH_SIZE" "$align_small" \ > freebsd 14g $disk || 1000c1001 < "$align_small" 2 freebsd-swap ${swapsize}b ${disk}s1 || --- > "$align_big" 2 freebsd-swap ${swapsize}b ${disk}s1 || 1011c1012 < "$align_small" $mbrindex freebsd-zfs ${disk}s1 || return $FAILURE --- > "$align_big" $mbrindex freebsd-zfs ${disk}s1 || return $FAILURE Here is the result: 2019-06-01 11:28:17 toor@soho ~/FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick/usr/libexec/bsdinstall # gpart show -p ada0 ada0s1 => 63 31277169 ada0 MBR (15G) 63 1 - free - (512B) 64 29360128 ada0s1 freebsd [active] (14G) 29360192 1917040 - free - (936M) => 0 29360128 ada0s1 BSD (14G) 0 2097152 ada0s1a freebsd-zfs (1.0G) 2097152 1984 - free - (992K) 2099136 2097152 ada0s1b freebsd-swap (1.0G) 4196288 25163776 ada0s1d freebsd-zfs (12G) 29360064 64 - free - (32K) That almost meets my goals, and will work on 4K drives. (I changed "$align_small" to "$align_big" on lines 1001 and 1012, but missed line 956. This caused the free spaces within the slice. I need to change line 956.) 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0667A74738 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=j0m/CtRw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of walterp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=walterp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.62 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.910,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-7.90), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.27), asn: 15169(-2.28), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 19:44:18 -0000 > > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 12:47:08 +0100 > From: Arthur Chance > To: Christos Chatzaras , FreeBSD-Questions > > Subject: Re: security/acme-client gone? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 01/06/2019 11:48, Christos Chatzaras wrote: > > > >> I came to do my weekly port rebuild and poudriere complained that > >> security/acme-client no longer exists. There's nothing in > >> /usr/ports/UPDATING about it. Anyone know what's happened to it? > > > > Check this: > > > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238073 > > Thank you. A shame it was removed. I'll have to decide whether to keep > using the old unsupported version or switch to acme.sh. Probably the > latter when I have time. > > I've been using acmetool for my certs and I recommend it. Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis