From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 1 03:50:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B09C9B17 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 03:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46LfP63N9Fz4cp6 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 03:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ftyim2wf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=6ozGgjiJjcrdPIDGTMcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:48480] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 09/48-21293-8EF3B6D5; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:50:00 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Install from .iso Fails Message-ID: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 20:49:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46LfP63N9Fz4cp6 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.11 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.57)[-0.572,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.29)[0.287,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.953,0]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.21), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2019 03:50:03 -0000 I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, and booted. The boot sequence did not complete. It was in a loop ... xchi resetting the controller ... xchi resetting the controller I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root. ps -ax seemed OK. I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU Any ideas? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 1 03:58:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA0C9FD6 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 03:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46LfZP5c1Jz4dCd for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=FYpJO626 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=oBbLpZGrXfYknHIIlzoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:48696] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 13/B4-23186-BC14B6D5; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:58:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Install from .iso Fails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 20:58:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46LfZP5c1Jz4dCd X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.63)[-0.629,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.279,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.20), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2019 03:58:06 -0000 On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. > > I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, and > booted. > > The boot sequence did not complete.  It was in a loop > ... > xchi resetting the controller > ... > xchi resetting the controller > > I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.  ps -ax seemed OK. > > I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. > > Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO > Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU > > Any ideas? > > Tom Dean Typo: xhci rather than xchi. From a Linux console, > lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 Bluetooth Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 1 04:49:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B976CCB474 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 04:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Lgjj70bGz4frs for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 04:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ftyim2wf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=4lfVMp-v5SNAmoLagRQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:46864] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id BD/E1-21293-8DD4B6D5; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 00:49:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Install from .iso Fails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 21:49:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Lgjj70bGz4frs X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.595,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.279,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.19), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2019 04:49:30 -0000 On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. >> >> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, and >> booted. >> >> The boot sequence did not complete.  It was in a loop >> ... >> xchi resetting the controller >> ... >> xchi resetting the controller >> >> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.  ps -ax seemed OK. >> >> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. >> >> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO >> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Tom Dean > > Typo: xhci rather than xchi. > > From a Linux console, > > > lsusb > Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 > Bluetooth > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > _______________________________________________ I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes. Then, I started bsdinstall. Looked good. When bsdinstalled started looking on the web for components to install, all the components were not found. pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address record found. But, the install did do one thing. I tried to install on ata3. bsdinstall actually created partitons on that disk. BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE. Thanks. I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 1 10:03:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF13D58A3 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 10:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Lpgj0wl3z4840 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 10:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.113.112]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mati7-1iaPGC2bjX-00cSKZ; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 12:03:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 12:03:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. > >> > >> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, and= =20 > >> booted. > >> > >> The boot sequence did not complete.=A0 It was in a loop > >> ... > >> xchi resetting the controller > >> ... > >> xchi resetting the controller > >> > >> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.=A0 ps -ax seemed O= K. > >> > >> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. > >> > >> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO > >> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > >> Tom Dean > >=20 > > Typo: xhci rather than xchi. > >=20 > > From a Linux console, > >=20 > > > lsusb > > Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011=20 > > Bluetooth > > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd > > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 > > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching H= ub > > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub > > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > > Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub > > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching H= ub > > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > _______________________________________________ >=20 > I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes. Then, I=20 > started bsdinstall. Looked good. When bsdinstalled started looking on=20 > the web for components to install, all the components were not found. >=20 > pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address record= =20 > found. >=20 > But, the install did do one thing. The "boot only" installation CD assumes you have some kind of Internet connection available, which is one of the first steps in bsdinstall pre-install configuration. From that point on, resources will be obtained via online connection. If you want to do a base install, use the DVD #1 disc image. It contains everything to install the OS. > I tried to install on ata3. bsdinstall actually created partitons on=20 > that disk. That is correct. Did you use the "auto" approach, or did you define everything manually? > BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE. Thanks. You probably selected to install the boot manager, which is to be installed on the 1st disk of the system (because that's where tne "post-POST entry point" is. In your case, ada0 is probably that first disk. > I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. Worked just fine for me; I recently used the DVD #1 to install 12.0 amd64 (single disk install onto a SSD as ada0). As per the handbook - downloaded, verified, burned, booted - worked. As it has for decades. :-) Coming back to the initial problem you described: Is your optical unit attached via USB? Or is it an internal (probably SATA) one? The error messages shown at the top indicate some problem with a USB controller... --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Dean wrote: > On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. >>> >>> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, and booted. >>> >>> The boot sequence did not complete.  It was in a loop >>> ... >>> xchi resetting the controller >>> ... >>> xchi resetting the controller >>> >>> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.  ps -ax seemed OK. >>> >>> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. >>> >>> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO >>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Tom Dean >> >> Typo: xhci rather than xchi. >> >>  From a Linux console, >> >>  > lsusb >> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 Bluetooth >> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd >> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 >> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub >> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub >> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub >> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub >> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >> _______________________________________________ > > I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes.  Then, I started bsdinstall.  Looked good.  When bsdinstalled started looking on the web for components to install, all the components were not found. > > pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address record found. > I wouldn't go around killing install processes and then expect to have a cogent system. If you are stuck with something, like the XHCI error, try a verbose boot: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html It may, or may not, illuminate the issue a bit more. > But, the install did do one thing. > > I tried to install on ata3.  bsdinstall actually created partitons on that disk. > > BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE.  Thanks. Yikes, boot manager perhaps? Is this a multi-OS system? What's the boot manager you are using? > > I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. Maybe the web-based-install-everything-by-download is, but I doubt it. Is the network showing an IP when you're booting and what's its route table look like? Can you ping a known web site, ie, google.com (indicating name resolution & some network operation)? 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Dean wrote: >> On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>> On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>>> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. >>>> >>>> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, >>>> and booted. >>>> >>>> The boot sequence did not complete.  It was in a loop >>>> ... >>>> xchi resetting the controller >>>> ... >>>> xchi resetting the controller >>>> >>>> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.  ps -ax seemed OK. >>>> >>>> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. >>>> >>>> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO >>>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Tom Dean >>> >>> Typo: xhci rather than xchi. >>> >>>  From a Linux console, >>> >>>  > lsusb >>> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 >>> Bluetooth >>> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd >>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 >>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching >>> Hub >>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub >>> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >>> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub >>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching >>> Hub >>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes.  Then, I >> started bsdinstall.  Looked good.  When bsdinstalled started looking >> on the web for components to install, all the components were not found. >> >> pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address >> record found. >> > > I wouldn't go around killing install processes and then expect to have a > cogent system. > > If you are stuck with something, like the XHCI error, try a verbose boot: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html > > > It may, or may not, illuminate the issue a bit more. > >> But, the install did do one thing. >> >> I tried to install on ata3.  bsdinstall actually created partitons on >> that disk. >> >> BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE.  Thanks. > > Yikes, boot manager perhaps? Is this a multi-OS system? What's the boot > manager you are using? > >> >> I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. > > Maybe the web-based-install-everything-by-download is, but I doubt it. > Is the network showing an IP when you're booting and what's its route > table look like? Can you ping a known web site, ie, google.com > (indicating name resolution & some network operation)? > I chose DHCP to start the network and did not see any error messages. I did not ping anything. I did not choose to install a MBR, maybe this is some default? Killing all the install processes BEFORE they did anything should not cause a problem. Looking back over several years' notes I think this is a USB 3.0 problem. USB 3.0 is why I switched to Linux. It is necessary for some of my projects. I want to use FreeBSD because everything else is becoming windoze. I will wait until USB 3.0 is fixed... Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 1 20:05:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDC9E39AD for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 20:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46M42V3YwXz3GXx for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2019 20:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.113.112]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MekvV-1id1ZI0Iwn-00ajs4; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:05:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 22:05:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > On 9/1/19 3:17 AM, MJ wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > On 1/09/2019 2:49 pm, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >>> On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >>>> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. > >>>> > >>>> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD,=20 > >>>> and booted. > >>>> > >>>> The boot sequence did not complete.=A0 It was in a loop > >>>> ... > >>>> xchi resetting the controller > >>>> ... > >>>> xchi resetting the controller > >>>> > >>>> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.=A0 ps -ax seemed= OK. > >>>> > >>>> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. > >>>> > >>>> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO > >>>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas? > >>>> > >>>> Tom Dean > >>> > >>> Typo: xhci rather than xchi. > >>> > >>> =A0From a Linux console, > >>> > >>> =A0> lsusb > >>> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011= =20 > >>> Bluetooth > >>> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd > >>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 > >>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching= =20 > >>> Hub > >>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub > >>> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > >>> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub > >>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > >>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching= =20 > >>> Hub > >>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes.=A0 Then, = I=20 > >> started bsdinstall.=A0 Looked good.=A0 When bsdinstalled started looki= ng=20 > >> on the web for components to install, all the components were not foun= d. > >> > >> pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address=20 > >> record found. > >> > >=20 > > I wouldn't go around killing install processes and then expect to have = a=20 > > cogent system. > >=20 > > If you are stuck with something, like the XHCI error, try a verbose boo= t: > >=20 > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-s= tart.html=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > It may, or may not, illuminate the issue a bit more. > >=20 > >> But, the install did do one thing. > >> > >> I tried to install on ata3.=A0 bsdinstall actually created partitons o= n=20 > >> that disk. > >> > >> BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE.=A0 Thanks. > >=20 > > Yikes, boot manager perhaps? Is this a multi-OS system? What's the boot= =20 > > manager you are using? > >=20 > >> > >> I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. > >=20 > > Maybe the web-based-install-everything-by-download is, but I doubt it.= =20 > > Is the network showing an IP when you're booting and what's its route=20 > > table look like? Can you ping a known web site, ie, google.com=20 > > (indicating name resolution & some network operation)? > >=20 > I chose DHCP to start the network and did not see any error messages. I= =20 > did not ping anything. You should verify that the network can be reached, routing and name resolution work. If you see no error message, you _could_ take that for granted, but it's always useful to make sure it _really_ works. This is the primary reason I use DVD #1: It allows me to install a fully working OS, a point from where I can configure network as needed, and then perform installation from external sources. No "half-baked" things. ;-) > I did not choose to install a MBR, maybe this is some default? Did you choose automatic layout? Today, MBR is not the default anymore. GPT is. There are only very few reasons one would choose to use MBR partitioning. > Killing all the install processes BEFORE they did anything should not=20 > cause a problem. Depends on when a certain step is being performed, e. g., editing or creating a partition table before initializing filesystems, initializing filesystems before copying files. > Looking back over several years' notes I think this is a USB 3.0 problem. >=20 > USB 3.0 is why I switched to Linux. It is necessary for some of my=20 > projects. Yes, this is a problem sometimes. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Dean wrote: >> On 9/1/19 3:17 AM, MJ wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 1/09/2019 2:49 pm, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>>> On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>>>> On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>>>>> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, >>>>>> and booted. >>>>>> >>>>>> The boot sequence did not complete.  It was in a loop >>>>>> ... >>>>>> xchi resetting the controller >>>>>> ... >>>>>> xchi resetting the controller >>>>>> >>>>>> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.  ps -ax seemed OK. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO >>>>>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Dean >>>>> >>>>> Typo: xhci rather than xchi. >>>>> >>>>>  From a Linux console, >>>>> >>>>>  > lsusb >>>>> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 >>>>> Bluetooth >>>>> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd >>>>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 >>>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching >>>>> Hub >>>>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>>>> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub >>>>> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >>>>> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub >>>>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>>>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub >>>>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>>>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching >>>>> Hub >>>>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes.  Then, I >>>> started bsdinstall.  Looked good.  When bsdinstalled started looking >>>> on the web for components to install, all the components were not found. >>>> >>>> pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address >>>> record found. >>>> >>> >>> I wouldn't go around killing install processes and then expect to have a >>> cogent system. >>> >>> If you are stuck with something, like the XHCI error, try a verbose boot: >>> >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html >>> >>> >>> It may, or may not, illuminate the issue a bit more. >>> >>>> But, the install did do one thing. >>>> >>>> I tried to install on ata3.  bsdinstall actually created partitons on >>>> that disk. >>>> >>>> BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE.  Thanks. >>> >>> Yikes, boot manager perhaps? Is this a multi-OS system? What's the boot >>> manager you are using? >>> >>>> >>>> I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. >>> >>> Maybe the web-based-install-everything-by-download is, but I doubt it. >>> Is the network showing an IP when you're booting and what's its route >>> table look like? Can you ping a known web site, ie, google.com >>> (indicating name resolution & some network operation)? >>> >> I chose DHCP to start the network and did not see any error messages. I >> did not ping anything. > > You should verify that the network can be reached, routing > and name resolution work. If you see no error message, you > _could_ take that for granted, but it's always useful to > make sure it _really_ works. > > This is the primary reason I use DVD #1: It allows me to > install a fully working OS, a point from where I can configure > network as needed, and then perform installation from external > sources. No "half-baked" things. ;-) > > > >> I did not choose to install a MBR, maybe this is some default? > > Did you choose automatic layout? Today, MBR is not the > default anymore. GPT is. There are only very few reasons > one would choose to use MBR partitioning. > > > >> Killing all the install processes BEFORE they did anything should not >> cause a problem. > > Depends on when a certain step is being performed, e. g., > editing or creating a partition table before initializing > filesystems, initializing filesystems before copying files. > > > >> Looking back over several years' notes I think this is a USB 3.0 problem. >> >> USB 3.0 is why I switched to Linux. It is necessary for some of my >> projects. > > Yes, this is a problem sometimes. > I killed all the bsdinstall stuff before I answered any of the questions. As soon as the first install box appeared, I switched to ttyv3(?) where root was logged in. Before selecting keyboard model. I use grub at the console to choose the system to boot and I login at a console prompt. In my .bash_profile, I startx. I use TWM because it is least intrusive. I use emacs in an xterm for development. I have a multi-os system. sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 empty - this is where I tried to install FreeBSD sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT sata6g_E1 (empty) sata6g_E2 (empty) After starting bsdinstall on ttyv3(?), I chose the automatic layout. OK, that does not seem to be a reasonable way to go. I will download the DVD set. Is it possible that I get reasonable USB 3.0 support from the full DVD rather than the net install? What do I need to do to avoid scribbling on sata6g_1 HD0? That contains grub. 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Who knows what it has started writing out. If you have to do this, I suggest just rebooting and restarting the installation rather than re-starting via the console. > I use grub at the console to choose the system to boot and I login at a console prompt.  In my .bash_profile, I startx.  I use TWM because it is least intrusive.  I use emacs in an xterm for development. > Not an unremarkable situation, I would think. > I have a multi-os system. > sata6g_1  HD0 SSD    ubuntu 18.04 > sata6g_2  HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 > sata3g_3  HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used (the last best windows IMHO) > sata3g_4  HD3 WD5000 empty - this is where I tried to install FreeBSD > sata3g_5  HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used > sata3g_6  DVD DRW-24B3LT > sata6g_E1 (empty) > sata6g_E2 (empty) > > After starting bsdinstall on ttyv3(?), I chose the automatic layout. That should work. I dare say many others use that format. I would encourage you to use manual layout and so expand your knowledge of why different partitions should be made (like /var and /usr) as separate partitions. It really doesn't take all that long, considering you were attempting to install using the ftp option. (I remember having to map cylinders/heads/sectors to boundaries back in ye olde days of FreeBSD, so it's got easier.. somewhat.) > > OK, that does not seem to be a reasonable way to go. > > I will download the DVD set.  Is it possible that I get reasonable USB 3.0 support from the full DVD rather than the net install? If you haven't used BSD for a while it seems the prudent thing to do. > What do I need to do to avoid scribbling on sata6g_1  HD0?  That contains grub. Don't install a boot manager when it asks. Leave it to Grub. (Not having used Grub for a long time, I expect you need to edit Grub to find the new disk with FreeBSD on it?) 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Dean wrote: [again snipped a lot] > Looking back over several years' notes I think this is a USB 3.0 problem. > > USB 3.0 is why I switched to Linux.  It is necessary for some of my projects. > > I want to use FreeBSD because everything else is becoming windoze. > > I will wait until USB 3.0 is fixed... I don't know that USB 3 is broken. That's news to me. Now, it was broken back in 9.n release time (sorry can't remember specifics) but I've had machines with USB3.0 since 10 and they work fine with attached USB drives (I can't vouch for all of course). Now, that's not to say you don't have buggy firmware, FREEBSD doesn't deal with X device or something. That's entirely possible. What you need to do is get an install happening, then if USB is still not working, post out the results of: dmesg pciconf -lv and probably "usbconfig" would help too for the external hub(s). In your list of USB devices, it shows an external hub. Is the device that is resetting attached to an external hub? In which case, perhaps it's misreporting something like power and you need to apply a quirk to that device. https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=usb_quirk&sektion=4&n=1 This may be further down the track though. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 01:40:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFC1CD368 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MCSt2w95z45vK for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ftyim2wf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=VQFrGCgRZWj5nEglBBkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:57520] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 2E/CC-21293-CF27C6D5; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 21:40:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Install from .iso Fails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> <7ebb0c1b-335e-8b8e-0c1e-1e95ffe050b9@gmail.com> <4f85bc7f-ace1-457c-211a-207acbb755a2@wavecable.com> <20190901220511.b90fab1d.freebsd@edvax.de> <61dd60cd-7fed-aea5-6878-61c9cc1b12aa@wavecable.com> <76573660-4ee9-a25b-d3fa-58b0b4f6cd60@gmail.com> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: <7d26cf5d-cfeb-c66a-39b2-3e2a53ed06be@wavecable.com> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 18:40:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <76573660-4ee9-a25b-d3fa-58b0b4f6cd60@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MCSt2w95z45vK X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.56)[-0.561,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.250,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.896,0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.17), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:40:15 -0000 On 9/1/19 5:54 PM, MJ wrote: > Hi Tom, > > [I cropped a lot of this message - it's needless detail] > >> I killed all the bsdinstall stuff before I answered any of the >> questions.  As soon as the first install box appeared, I switched to >> ttyv3(?) where root was logged in.  Before selecting keyboard model. >> > > It's still risky. Who knows what it has started writing out. If you have > to do this, I suggest just rebooting and restarting the installation > rather than re-starting via the console. Does bsdinstall start writing BEFORE the keyboard model is selected? Before the device is selected? Is this documented in the handbook? I did not see it. > > >> I use grub at the console to choose the system to boot and I login at >> a console prompt.  In my .bash_profile, I startx.  I use TWM because >> it is least intrusive.  I use emacs in an xterm for development. >> > > Not an unremarkable situation, I would think. > >> I have a multi-os system. >> sata6g_1  HD0 SSD    ubuntu 18.04 >> sata6g_2  HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 >> sata3g_3  HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > > (the last best windows IMHO) There was no last best windows. I replaced the windoze before WNT (== ++VMS) with BSD386 0.1. > >> sata3g_4  HD3 WD5000 empty - this is where I tried to install FreeBSD >> sata3g_5  HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used >> sata3g_6  DVD DRW-24B3LT >> sata6g_E1 (empty) >> sata6g_E2 (empty) >> >> After starting bsdinstall on ttyv3(?), I chose the automatic layout. > > That should work. I dare say many others use that format. I would > encourage you to use manual layout and so expand your knowledge of why > different partitions should be made (like /var and /usr) as separate > partitions. It really doesn't take all that long, considering you were > attempting to install using the ftp option. (I remember having to map > cylinders/heads/sectors to boundaries back in ye olde days of FreeBSD, > so it's got easier.. somewhat.) > >> >> OK, that does not seem to be a reasonable way to go. >> >> I will download the DVD set.  Is it possible that I get reasonable USB >> 3.0 support from the full DVD rather than the net install? > > If you haven't used BSD for a while it seems the prudent thing to do. > >> What do I need to do to avoid scribbling on sata6g_1  HD0?  That >> contains grub. > > Don't install a boot manager when it asks. Leave it to Grub. (Not having > used Grub for a long time, I expect you need to edit Grub to find the > new disk with FreeBSD on it?) update-grub > > Regards, > Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 01:43:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB41DCD6FF for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MCXk1gdNz46WV for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=FYpJO626 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=wxpeNFEbEK0Y5PhWVXoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:57524] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 7A/7A-23186-4C37C6D5; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 21:43:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Install from .iso Fails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> <7ebb0c1b-335e-8b8e-0c1e-1e95ffe050b9@gmail.com> <4f85bc7f-ace1-457c-211a-207acbb755a2@wavecable.com> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 18:43:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MCXk1gdNz46WV X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.58)[-0.582,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.272,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.902,0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.17), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:43:34 -0000 On 9/1/19 6:27 PM, MJ wrote: > > In your list of USB devices, it shows an external hub. Is the device > that is resetting attached to an external hub? In which case, perhaps > it's misreporting something like power and you need to apply a quirk to > that device. > I tried with the external hub disconnected - same results. Maybe FreeBSD's USB 3.0 support is not handling my motherboard, an ASUS P9X79 PRO. I never thought, maybe OC has something to do with it. Something to try. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 02:47:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FFBCE723 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 02:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MDyc2HM7z48Tc for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 02:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ftyim2wf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=L4dEbPxg8bGbHTx5rLUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:57928] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 4C/CE-21293-6C28C6D5; Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:47:34 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Message-ID: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 19:47:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MDyc2HM7z48Tc X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.604,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.270,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.17), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 02:47:37 -0000 I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's. Actually, two drives have Windows 7 and its secondary plex. From an earlier post: sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 backup sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT sata6g_E1 (empty) sata6g_E2 (empty) I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and running the way I want. So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just use GPT on the FreeBSD disk? I am leaning toward the later, but, ... I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 08:45:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3EFD726F for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MNv62sy3z4Sr2 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:44:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <448b8e19-5cd4-df63-ca7b-9170f3f839ba@holgerdanske.com> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:44:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MNv62sy3z4Sr2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.52)[ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.45), asn: 6939(-3.12), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.956,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:45:07 -0000 On 9/1/19 7:47 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's.  Actually, two drives have > Windows 7 and its secondary plex.  From an earlier post: > > sata6g_1  HD0 SSD    ubuntu 18.04 > sata6g_2  HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 > sata3g_3  HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > sata3g_4  HD3 WD5000 backup > sata3g_5  HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used > sata3g_6  DVD DRW-24B3LT > sata6g_E1 (empty) > sata6g_E2 (empty) > > I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and > running the way I want. > > So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. > > My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. > > Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just > use GPT on the FreeBSD disk?  I am leaning toward the later, but, ... > > I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. I have a SOHO LAN with several phones/ laptops/ pads/ pods, a few workstations, a file/ version control server, and a maintenance/ backup/ archive/ image server, running Windows XP/ Vista/ 7/ 10, macOS, iOS, FreeBSD, and Debian GNU/ Linux. I use MBR partitioning and one drive for each Windows, BSD, and GNU/ Linux operating system image, and install a hard drive mobile dock in each workstation and server. My typical BSD and Linux system images are 1 GB boot, 1 GB swap, and 10 GB root, and fit on 16+ GB devices (HDD, SSD, USB flash drives). My Windows images are on 180 GB SSD's. A key benefit of this approach is that I avoid issues related to motherboard firmware (BIOS/ EFI/ UEFI), drive partitioning (MBR/ GPT), and bootloaders/ multi-boot (Windows, BSD, GRUB). The only time I need to run CMOS setup is to change the hardware clock. When I want to install an OS, I wipe the system drive/ insert a wiped drive and run the installer in the most straight-forward fashion. (I use complete installer images on USB flash drives.) When I want to change OS's, I power down, remove the system drive, install another system drive, and power up. I use GPT partitioning only for 2+ TB drives -- e.g. data drives and backup/ archive/ image drives. If you are trying to do everything with one computer, do yourself a favor and get another computer (preferably workstation/ server class with ECC memory). Also, get several large internal HDD's and matching mobile dock bays and trays for backups, archives, and images; and rotate them -- live, near-site, off-site. Learn a scripting language and automate administrative chores. Finally, the BSD books by Michael W. Lucas are very practical and TDAIOTFOS2 by McKusick, et al, is definitive. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 11:32:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A419CDA8DF for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 11:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MSc12c7Vz4bck for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 11:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.113.112]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MFKX3-1hyMd81lxx-00Fn4W; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:32:11 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:32:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > On 9/1/19 1:05 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 12:37:21 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> On 9/1/19 3:17 AM, MJ wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 1/09/2019 2:49 pm, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >>>> On 8/31/19 8:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >>>>> On 8/31/19 8:49 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >>>>>> I tried to install FreeBSD and failed. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I downloaded FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso, burned a CD, > >>>>>> and booted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The boot sequence did not complete.=A0 It was in a loop > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>> xchi resetting the controller > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>> xchi resetting the controller > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I could get to the ptty that was logged in as root.=A0 ps -ax seem= ed OK. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think I had FreeBSD on this machine several years ago. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Motherboard ASUS P9X79 PRO > >>>>>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any ideas? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tom Dean > >>>>> > >>>>> Typo: xhci rather than xchi. > >>>>> > >>>>> =A0From a Linux console, > >>>>> > >>>>> =A0> lsusb > >>>>> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:3005 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR3011 > >>>>> Bluetooth > >>>>> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd > >>>>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0768 Microsoft Corp. Sidewinder X4 > >>>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matchi= ng > >>>>> Hub > >>>>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>>>> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub > >>>>> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > >>>>> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub > >>>>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>>>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > >>>>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>>>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matchi= ng > >>>>> Hub > >>>>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> I switched to ttyv3 and killed all the bsdinstall processes.=A0 Then= , I > >>>> started bsdinstall.=A0 Looked good.=A0 When bsdinstalled started loo= king > >>>> on the web for components to install, all the components were not fo= und. > >>>> > >>>> pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/12.0-RELEASE/base.txz no address > >>>> record found. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I wouldn't go around killing install processes and then expect to hav= e a > >>> cogent system. > >>> > >>> If you are stuck with something, like the XHCI error, try a verbose b= oot: > >>> > >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall= -start.html > >>> > >>> > >>> It may, or may not, illuminate the issue a bit more. > >>> > >>>> But, the install did do one thing. > >>>> > >>>> I tried to install on ata3.=A0 bsdinstall actually created partitons= on > >>>> that disk. > >>>> > >>>> BUT, BSDINSTALL ALSO STABBED ATA0 AND MADE IT UNBOOTABLE.=A0 Thanks. > >>> > >>> Yikes, boot manager perhaps? Is this a multi-OS system? What's the bo= ot > >>> manager you are using? > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I guess FreeBSD install is just broken. > >>> > >>> Maybe the web-based-install-everything-by-download is, but I doubt it. > >>> Is the network showing an IP when you're booting and what's its route > >>> table look like? Can you ping a known web site, ie, google.com > >>> (indicating name resolution & some network operation)? > >>> > >> I chose DHCP to start the network and did not see any error messages. = I > >> did not ping anything. > >=20 > > You should verify that the network can be reached, routing > > and name resolution work. If you see no error message, you > > _could_ take that for granted, but it's always useful to > > make sure it _really_ works. > >=20 > > This is the primary reason I use DVD #1: It allows me to > > install a fully working OS, a point from where I can configure > > network as needed, and then perform installation from external > > sources. No "half-baked" things. ;-) > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> I did not choose to install a MBR, maybe this is some default? > >=20 > > Did you choose automatic layout? Today, MBR is not the > > default anymore. GPT is. There are only very few reasons > > one would choose to use MBR partitioning. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> Killing all the install processes BEFORE they did anything should not > >> cause a problem. > >=20 > > Depends on when a certain step is being performed, e. g., > > editing or creating a partition table before initializing > > filesystems, initializing filesystems before copying files. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> Looking back over several years' notes I think this is a USB 3.0 probl= em. > >> > >> USB 3.0 is why I switched to Linux. It is necessary for some of my > >> projects. > >=20 > > Yes, this is a problem sometimes. > >=20 >=20 > I killed all the bsdinstall stuff before I answered any of the=20 > questions. As soon as the first install box appeared, I switched to=20 > ttyv3(?) where root was logged in. Before selecting keyboard model. So you don't want to use bsdinstall? I could understand that... ;-) > I use grub at the console to choose the system to boot [...] Okay, so you already have a boot manager in place. In this case, you only need to add FreeBSD boot code at the beginning of the desired disk, and _not_ make any changes to the first disk (i. e., the boot disk) of the system. After installing FreeBSD to the desired disk, add an entry to the GRUB configuration that hands over control to that particular disk to boot FreeBSD. Dealing with individual disks makes this easy. However, you _could_ do the following: Detach all disks except the one you want to put FreeBSD on. Install it using bsdinstall as if it would be a typical single-disk installation; use the normal boot section (not the boot manager). Add labels to the partitions. Now this disk would boot fine as-is. Re-attach the other disks, and add the GRUB entry as mentioned before for the FreeBSD disk. > [...] and I login at a=20 > console prompt. In my .bash_profile, I startx. I use TWM because it is= =20 > least intrusive. I use emacs in an xterm for development. Interesting setup. > I have a multi-os system. > sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 > sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 > sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 empty - this is where I tried to install FreeBSD > sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used > sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT > sata6g_E1 (empty) > sata6g_E2 (empty) >=20 > After starting bsdinstall on ttyv3(?), I chose the automatic layout. If I remember correctly, that would create the partitions as needed, _and_ add the regular boot code. > OK, that does not seem to be a reasonable way to go. Check the instructions on what the best way is. Multi-OS setups are not very typical, they're not really covered in the documentation. But that doesn't stop you from integrating FreeBSD - I have done that many years ago without any problems. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-bsdinstall= .html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-parti= tioning.html I think the guided partitioning is a better way to allocate disk space. You _could_ also do a manual install (from the 3rd console, i. e., using gpart and newfs to prepare the target disk, and then install the FreeBSD components to that new target). > I will download the DVD set. Is it possible that I get reasonable USB=20 > 3.0 support from the full DVD rather than the net install? Those aren't different in terms of kernel (which is responsible for USB support). But with DVD #1 (the only one you need) you can install the full OS, and boot into a fully working OS after- wards, to make further configurations, like network, ports to add, and so on. > What do I need to do to avoid scribbling on sata6g_1 HD0? That=20 > contains grub. Definitely. Your GRUB configuration is best changed by booting into Linux and using the GRUP setup tool to add a FreeBSD entry ("chain loader"). Maybe the thread "Booting FreeBSD via GRUB" in the FreeBSD forum can be helpful here: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/booting-freebsd-via-grub.60422/ --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Dean wrote: > On 9/1/19 5:54 PM, MJ wrote: > > Hi Tom, > >=20 > > [I cropped a lot of this message - it's needless detail] > >=20 > >> I killed all the bsdinstall stuff before I answered any of the=20 > >> questions.=A0 As soon as the first install box appeared, I switched to= =20 > >> ttyv3(?) where root was logged in.=A0 Before selecting keyboard model. > >> > >=20 > > It's still risky. Who knows what it has started writing out. If you hav= e=20 > > to do this, I suggest just rebooting and restarting the installation=20 > > rather than re-starting via the console. >=20 > Does bsdinstall start writing BEFORE the keyboard model is selected?=20 > Before the device is selected? No. There are two steps that cause writes: The first one is the partitioning step (add partitions, initialize filesystems), the second one is actually installing the software, after the "commit" choice: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-final= -warning.html > Is this documented in the handbook? I did not see it. Well, bsdinstall has its own chapter (referenced above). --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Dean wrote: > I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's. Actually, two drives have > Windows 7 and its secondary plex. From an earlier post: > > sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 > sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 > sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 backup > sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used > sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT > sata6g_E1 (empty) > sata6g_E2 (empty) > > I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and > running the way I want. > > So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. > > My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. > > Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just > use GPT on the FreeBSD disk? I am leaning toward the later, but, ... > > I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. Don't confuse UEFI and GPT. :-) YOu can use both GPT and MBR (not on the same disk, of course, but on different disks). Choosing MBR is suggested today only for the few cases where it's absolutely needed. Use GPT if you can. You cannot "convert" between the two except via "backup, re-init, restore", which probably is not what you have in mind. But as it is about a new installation of FreeBSD into a multi-OS setting, I'd suggest to leave everything untouched, install FreeBSD on its disk using GPT partitioning, and add a "chain loader" entry to GRUB configuration that boots FreeBSD. GRUB can understand both MBR and GPT, so it doesn't matter. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 12:04:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE68DC3F0 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MTKg21X2z4dn6 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=FYpJO626 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=YKh6ZHIKNZMvPgUSbswA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:45752] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 26/1A-23186-5650D6D5; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:04:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 05:04:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MTKg21X2z4dn6 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.71 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.72)[0.720,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.87)[0.871,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.16), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:04:56 -0000 On 9/2/19 4:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 19:47:33 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's. Actually, two drives have >> Windows 7 and its secondary plex. From an earlier post: >> >> sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 >> sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 >> sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used >> sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 backup >> sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used >> sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT >> sata6g_E1 (empty) >> sata6g_E2 (empty) >> >> I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and >> running the way I want. >> >> So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. >> >> My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. >> >> Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just >> use GPT on the FreeBSD disk? I am leaning toward the later, but, ... >> >> I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. > > Don't confuse UEFI and GPT. :-) > > YOu can use both GPT and MBR (not on the same disk, of course, > but on different disks). Choosing MBR is suggested today only > for the few cases where it's absolutely needed. Use GPT if you > can. > > You cannot "convert" between the two except via "backup, re-init, > restore", which probably is not what you have in mind. > > But as it is about a new installation of FreeBSD into a multi-OS > setting, I'd suggest to leave everything untouched, install > FreeBSD on its disk using GPT partitioning, and add a "chain loader" > entry to GRUB configuration that boots FreeBSD. GRUB can understand > both MBR and GPT, so it doesn't matter. > Something, possibly BSDinstall or, maybe something unknown made the 2 Windows 7 disks unbootable. Great, now I can use them for something other than adding weight to the box. I changed HD2, sdc to GPT with gparted. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 on it. I booted sda and used update-grub2. Seemed to go OK, but I could not get grub to boot sdc. The boot menu listed sdc, but when selected igrub actually booted sda. Looking at boot/grub/grub.cfg, I see the menuentry for sdc to have the same values as sda. grub bug?? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 12:11:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C4FDC54C for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MTT838LVz4dx6 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.113.112]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mw99Y-1iLSa13OIW-00s4oN; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 14:11:17 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 14:11:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > On 9/2/19 4:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 19:47:33 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's. Actually, two drives have > >> Windows 7 and its secondary plex. From an earlier post: > >> > >> sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 > >> sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 > >> sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > >> sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 backup > >> sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used > >> sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT > >> sata6g_E1 (empty) > >> sata6g_E2 (empty) > >> > >> I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and > >> running the way I want. > >> > >> So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. > >> > >> My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. > >> > >> Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just > >> use GPT on the FreeBSD disk? I am leaning toward the later, but, ... > >> > >> I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. > > > > Don't confuse UEFI and GPT. :-) > > > > YOu can use both GPT and MBR (not on the same disk, of course, > > but on different disks). Choosing MBR is suggested today only > > for the few cases where it's absolutely needed. Use GPT if you > > can. > > > > You cannot "convert" between the two except via "backup, re-init, > > restore", which probably is not what you have in mind. > > > > But as it is about a new installation of FreeBSD into a multi-OS > > setting, I'd suggest to leave everything untouched, install > > FreeBSD on its disk using GPT partitioning, and add a "chain loader" > > entry to GRUB configuration that boots FreeBSD. GRUB can understand > > both MBR and GPT, so it doesn't matter. > > > > Something, possibly BSDinstall or, maybe something unknown made the 2 > Windows 7 disks unbootable. Great, now I can use them for something > other than adding weight to the box. Maybe there is just some damage to the bootcode of each "Windows". Suggestion: Unplug all disks except one of those (one at each time), boot with a "Windows" installation / repair DVD, restore the boot sector - should boot fine again. However, it sounds totally wrong that a FreeBSD installer even _touches_ disks that are not subject to the FreeBSD installation. I can image that adding boot code (single-boot or boot manager) to the 1st disk of a setup is possible, but what you're describing sounds just wrong. Not entirely impossible, but ... Also boot into Linux and make sure the GRUB configuration is correct. > I changed HD2, sdc to GPT with gparted. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 on it. > I booted sda and used update-grub2. Seemed to go OK, but I could not > get grub to boot sdc. The boot menu listed sdc, but when selected igrub > actually booted sda. Looking at boot/grub/grub.cfg, I see the menuentry > for sdc to have the same values as sda. > > grub bug?? Something went wrong when update-grub2 altered the configuration, I'd guess. You can manually change the GRUB configuration as needed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Dean" Message-ID: <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 06:54:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MWmP0ZKhz3HJM X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.71 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.71)[0.709,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.881,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.16), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:54:46 -0000 On 9/2/19 5:11 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 05:04:52 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> On 9/2/19 4:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 19:47:33 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >>>> I have 5 disk drives, with two (same) OS's. Actually, two drives have >>>> Windows 7 and its secondary plex. From an earlier post: >>>> >>>> sata6g_1 HD0 SSD ubuntu 18.04 >>>> sata6g_2 HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 >>>> sata3g_3 HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used >>>> sata3g_4 HD3 WD5000 backup >>>> sata3g_5 HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used >>>> sata3g_6 DVD DRW-24B3LT >>>> sata6g_E1 (empty) >>>> sata6g_E2 (empty) >>>> >>>> I plan to keep the SSD Ubuntu install until I can get FreeBSD up and >>>> running the way I want. >>>> >>>> So, for now, I want to install FreeBSD on sata3g_5 HD4. >>>> >>>> My motherboard, ASUS P9X79 PRO has support for UEFI boot. >>>> >>>> Is it worth the effort to change everything to GPT, or, should I just >>>> use GPT on the FreeBSD disk? I am leaning toward the later, but, ... >>>> >>>> I think the future has a SSD for FreeBSD. >>> >>> Don't confuse UEFI and GPT. :-) >>> >>> YOu can use both GPT and MBR (not on the same disk, of course, >>> but on different disks). Choosing MBR is suggested today only >>> for the few cases where it's absolutely needed. Use GPT if you >>> can. >>> >>> You cannot "convert" between the two except via "backup, re-init, >>> restore", which probably is not what you have in mind. >>> >>> But as it is about a new installation of FreeBSD into a multi-OS >>> setting, I'd suggest to leave everything untouched, install >>> FreeBSD on its disk using GPT partitioning, and add a "chain loader" >>> entry to GRUB configuration that boots FreeBSD. GRUB can understand >>> both MBR and GPT, so it doesn't matter. >>> >> >> Something, possibly BSDinstall or, maybe something unknown made the 2 >> Windows 7 disks unbootable. Great, now I can use them for something >> other than adding weight to the box. > > Maybe there is just some damage to the bootcode of each "Windows". > Suggestion: Unplug all disks except one of those (one at each time), > boot with a "Windows" installation / repair DVD, restore the boot > sector - should boot fine again. > > However, it sounds totally wrong that a FreeBSD installer even > _touches_ disks that are not subject to the FreeBSD installation. > I can image that adding boot code (single-boot or boot manager) > to the 1st disk of a setup is possible, but what you're describing > sounds just wrong. Not entirely impossible, but ... I downloaded the FreeBSD DVD1. Disabled USB 3.0 support in the "UEFI BIOS", as ASUS calls it. Now, FreeBSD does not go into the xhci loop. I chose the entire 3rd disk, ada2 for FreeBSD, accepted most of the defaults and the installation completed. I did not see where BSDinstall offered a choice about the MBR. However, I can not boot anything but FreeBSD. So, BSDinstall did write something to ada0, I have not discovered what. I can boot HD0 from "UEFI BIOS" Maybe BSDinstall messed with moterboard EFI boot??? > > Also boot into Linux and make sure the GRUB configuration is > correct. > > > >> I changed HD2, sdc to GPT with gparted. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 on it. >> I booted sda and used update-grub2. Seemed to go OK, but I could not >> get grub to boot sdc. The boot menu listed sdc, but when selected igrub >> actually booted sda. Looking at boot/grub/grub.cfg, I see the menuentry >> for sdc to have the same values as sda. >> >> grub bug?? > > Something went wrong when update-grub2 altered the configuration, > I'd guess. You can manually change the GRUB configuration as needed. > I am trying very hard to not do anything non-automatic or not out-of-the-box. Getting old and I forget things... Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 13:55:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4D7DE946 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MWnY6F5Vz3HX1 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=FYpJO626 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=eb6w5M_qNFx8F2PLq2wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:59792] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 65/4E-23186-06F1D6D5; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 09:55:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Install from .iso Fails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <74e749a3-b544-9bd5-d33a-31a05ede550d@wavecable.com> <0aa49415-4e1b-afe8-8e2a-b14935838ba0@wavecable.com> <7ebb0c1b-335e-8b8e-0c1e-1e95ffe050b9@gmail.com> <4f85bc7f-ace1-457c-211a-207acbb755a2@wavecable.com> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 06:55:44 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MWnY6F5Vz3HX1 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.72)[-0.719,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.26)[0.260,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.920,0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.15), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:55:46 -0000 On 9/1/19 6:43 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: removed lots of ? The problem with the .iso failure is that FreeBSD does not support the Asmedia 1042(?) USB 3.0 controller. And, I need USB 3.0. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 14:48:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2995DFB0C for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 14:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MXyg5ry5z3LXw for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 14:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.113.112]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MHGTI-1i0NnS0G80-00DJ2V; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:48:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 16:48:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > I downloaded the FreeBSD DVD1. Disabled USB 3.0 support in the "UEFI > BIOS", as ASUS calls it. Now, FreeBSD does not go into the xhci loop. Very good! By the way, the commonly accepted terminology is either "BIOS" or "UEFI" - it's one or the other. Maybe ASUS is already infested by brainless marketing drones... ;-) > I chose the entire 3rd disk, ada2 for FreeBSD, accepted most of the > defaults and the installation completed. I did not see where BSDinstall > offered a choice about the MBR. However, I can not boot anything but > FreeBSD. So, BSDinstall did write something to ada0, I have not > discovered what. It seems to be the case, and if it is, it's a bad design and dangerous thing! I remember that ye olde sysinstall (which you might remember) did explicitely have a choice. I checked the documentation again: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html 2.6.1. discusses MBR vs. GPT (which is not relevant here), and in the partition editor in fig. 2.14, you probably have seen entries only for ada2 (3rd disk in your system). Nothing about the boot manager? Hmmm... I didn't find it mentioned anywhere on those pages. Maybe the "entire disk" choice implies (!) that the 1st disk of the system (i. e., the _actual_ boot disk) will be modified? If that's the case, again: bad choice. > Maybe BSDinstall messed with moterboard EFI boot??? That shouldn't happen without user interaction. https://wiki.freebsd.org/UEFI https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-introduction.html In combination with the installation documentation, nothing suggests that something like that should happen. > I am trying very hard to not do anything non-automatic or not > out-of-the-box. Getting old and I forget things... But milti-OS is something considered non-standard nowadays, so all the automatic, automagic, magic, and blackmagic methods of doing things seem to depend on a "one OS only" mentality, so you will have to do certain things manually if you wish to make them work (which basically is not impossible, but as I said, non-standard and therefore not considered when designing tools to aid those tasks). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 15:20:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E8FE0C9A for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) Received: from smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com (smtp.emerald.synacor.com [208.47.184.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MYfp49zgz3P97 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@wavecable.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=FYpJO626 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:117 a=OAvc3ylXTZnwW13UMKQG5A==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jlQd9YhnVdoA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=JbhlE8a8jZIA:10 a=C1L7ehIJEW9czuWbKbsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: dG9tZGVhbkB3YXZlY2FibGUuY29t X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: X-CM-Score: X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [24.113.143.192] ([24.113.143.192:44468] helo=[192.168.1.175]) by mail.wavecable.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 85/A2-23186-F133D6D5; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 11:20:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Thomas D. Dean" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:19:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MYfp49zgz3P97 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.61 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp01.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.67)[0.669,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.82)[0.823,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.15), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 15:20:03 -0000 On 9/2/19 7:48 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 06:54:42 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> I downloaded the FreeBSD DVD1. Disabled USB 3.0 support in the "UEFI >> BIOS", as ASUS calls it. Now, FreeBSD does not go into the xhci loop. > > Very good! By the way, the commonly accepted terminology is > either "BIOS" or "UEFI" - it's one or the other. Maybe ASUS > is already infested by brainless marketing drones... ;-) Yes, that is why I quoted ASUS! This motherboard is 7 or 8 years old. I have those 3 unused (now) disks, so might as well play... I think FreeBSD does not fully support my USB 3.0 controller. Linux uses the xhci_hcd driver. FreeBSD seems to use the xhci_pci driver?? On Linux: p9x79> sudo lspci -v | grep -i asm1042 -B5 -A10 Capabilities: [80] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Kernel driver in use: ahci Kernel modules: ahci 08:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB Host Controller (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P8B WS Motherboard Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 Memory at fbc00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K] Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/8 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [68] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=8 Masked- Capabilities: [78] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [80] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd 09:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB Host Controller (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 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It has a cron job that downloads latest sources and the does a build of kernels and a buildworld. This is a build only with the idea that the binaries will be available as required for, say, a zero day problem. This has worked great for years, but I am now seeing this: --- kernel.full --- linking kernel.full ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o kernel.full ... Killed *** [kernel.full] Error code 137 I this is on a Digital Ocean droplet. Another physical server in my domain that does the exact same thing is working fine. Any ideas? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 23:25:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7C6EAC94 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x431.google.com (mail-wr1-x431.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::431]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MmQX2Gybz4VJC for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x431.google.com with SMTP id t16so15428496wra.6 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:25:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Atne2Fiee+DH3zOF42lZK9rzysE6P3k33Fzsk4B3ExU=; b=uy//UwVGW+aIpNSramC+pP9saZ4YqB5D2gPUbdXAXsZivcWRs8Jhgsc2AvTtoDg6Wz 22kfCY8St9OuQgxKEzqNvRcYunoKVgzKjTIyrj8dakU6cs3cf2ytSvkVT4OYhtuHygd+ oi2P6s2Fkjvt++u/I7ptOYrcplUX7OoOTXd0ki1oPIxKmX/bu9uNNfnJEXprLvb9jOGu xdY9RRqk8mKZj0+W+JdkGQzLVAqsW7fFwsT7MU8z98eBHDv7XXuEXxK8QByAZbtmhjFM bE58MTYfcidL4m+hmIkrn+OSadYpOFK/NawD5XQmWIwmdXRHxR/OmFqdle28QlnRrJYM p70Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Atne2Fiee+DH3zOF42lZK9rzysE6P3k33Fzsk4B3ExU=; b=f/bS4KOeYroUuunhv0TK25khBnOyAR0+HlRqBYon5sLzTJ599wHI4s55ML4rbjLitl gH+OuWQDDkAbea0JjHQUDdWCQwi7u2yr1qEX1vz4QA6QuDdkddsCrC26/v2WTXc8VmFG DGxh5qrMvZUiRzsSQTodacYqP3Y+3bKD6e+kpqFswt4NWUlCiGCE2ZyQSzI77xdPMR6V F+D6sA4EngKYNtEpMHssTlycBk6jAk+DgGyieqvvlK1mWCXBB/lZ1Rivlpa02LGdZUfg OaqoYZe5+4oWy6NVk2SZ550BEM+fsXPgI4HOpWk7Vn/KGkOG1MVsKrSVSHKAFMp2cKGO jXhg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVb1KkBE628xGrL9nJtNpbFtDpv2osdBv8ZGERKBAOuar8hVI+E Hij1CvveKANWrMo0SQQ5upUyvqVb2Snez3Zrda6GAQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxgg2iXjUS8N6Uzyu+aMwS59ieZLZ75+17vmVg9EJ1PyqLp2dZNJoKkOdECNYrQ4m0L67W7Fz8XBmlj1AzeXOg= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:640f:: with SMTP id z15mr7444786wru.217.1567466705983; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:25:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a1c:80d0:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 16:25:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Olivares Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 18:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Script from calomel.org, youtube To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MmQX2Gybz4VJC X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=uy//UwVG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::431 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=olivares14031@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.24), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.98), asn: 15169(-2.30), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[calomel.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:25:09 -0000 Dear kind folks, I hope that someone can send me the script in https://calomel.org/youtube_wget.html as an attachment. I have tried copying it with cut+paste in Android phone, but the formatting is off. I cannot get a working copy. I tried getting it with wget, but it did not work Thanks in advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 2 23:43:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E61EB285 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@vipluxstar.ru) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Mmr85DH2z4WV2 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@vipluxstar.ru) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B11ABEB284; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBDAEB283 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@vipluxstar.ru) Received: from vipluxstar.ru (vipluxstar.ru [87.251.86.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Mmr72R9xz4WV1 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@vipluxstar.ru) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:13:03 +0000 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Aleksandr Reply-To: Aleksandr Subject: =?utf-8?B?0J/RgNC10LTQu9C+0LbQtdC90LjQtQ==?= Message-ID: <74bce65c88dfc81da62ff479224eab87@vipluxstar.ru> X-Olxg-Campaign-Uid: we512r501t4dc X-Olxg-Subscriber-Uid: xg1473z5p9d3c X-Sender: info@vipluxstar.ru X-Receiver: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Mmr72R9xz4WV1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[info@vipluxstar.ru]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[vipluxstar.ru:s=key1]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; HAS_PHPMAILER_SIG(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[vipluxstar.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[vipluxstar.ru,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-0.43)[ipnet: 87.251.86.0/24(-3.80), asn: 206873(1.66), country: RU(0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:206873, ipnet:87.251.86.0/24, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 23:43:53 -0000 =D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B5. = =D0=92=D1=8B =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0= =B4=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=81= =D0=B0=D0=B9=D1=82? 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[calomel.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:54:46 -0000 On Monday, September 2, 2019, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear kind folks, > > I hope that someone can send me the script in > > https://calomel.org/youtube_wget.html > > as an attachment. I have tried copying it with cut+paste in Android phone, but the formatting is off. I cannot get a working copy. I tried getting it with wget, but it did not work > > Thanks in advance, > > > Antonio > > I was able to fetch it as of a while. I was getting connection errors. Please disregard sending file as attachment. I have successfully used this script to watch YouTube videos that stopped playing from browser. 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It has a cron job that downloads > latest sources and the does a build of kernels and a buildworld. This > is a build only with the idea that the binaries will be available as > required for, say, a zero day problem. > > This has worked great for years, but I am now seeing this: > > --- kernel.full --- > linking kernel.full > ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o kernel.full ... > Killed > *** [kernel.full] Error code 137 > > > I this is on a Digital Ocean droplet. Another physical server in my > domain that does the exact same thing is working fine. > > Any ideas? > That indicates a signal was sent to the script; SIGKILL in fact. Why? Maybe something in the management of the droplet killed it because it was using too much RAM, disk, your guess is better than mine. Cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 08:56:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326BFD2DFE for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 08:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mx-p1.obspm.fr (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.obspm.fr", Issuer "TERENA SSL CA 3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46N15Z24ZJz43bT for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 08:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from io.chezmoi.fr (io-p2.obspm.fr [145.238.197.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx-p1.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/DIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/04/10) with ESMTP id x838uEPL383042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 10:56:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 10:56:14 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: master.passwd out of sync Message-ID: <20190903085614.GD3644@io.chezmoi.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.11 (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]); Tue, 03 Sep 2019 10:56:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.3 at mx-p1.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46N15Z24ZJz43bT X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Albert.Shih@obspm.fr designates 145.238.193.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Albert.Shih@obspm.fr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[20.193.238.145.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[obspm.fr]; IP_SCORE(-2.30)[ip: (-9.67), ipnet: 145.238.0.0/16(-4.83), asn: 2200(3.01), country: FR(-0.00)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2200, ipnet:145.238.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 08:56:19 -0000 Hi everyone, I try to understand how the /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db are updated with /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb. Anyone known what going to update those file ? The reason is I try to create a account with pw and sometime I got the message pw: user '*******' disappeared during update so I just need to do a /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd and everything work fine. But that's not seem to be normal. So I try to find if they are some cron to do that and didn't find anything. 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So I try to find if they are some cron to > do that and didn't find anything. If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to know what rebuilds the master.passwd under "normal" circumstances? That would be vipw(8). Of course, you can still do as you state here and run pwd_mkdb(8) but better to use the right tool for the job. Remember to set your EDITOR so vipw can use your preferred one. > Regards > > -- > Albert SHIH > Observatoire de Paris > xmpp: jas@obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > Tue 03 Sep 2019 10:51:35 AM CEST > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 11:26:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A7ED7314 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 11:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@scatterlings.org) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46N4R66dnXz4Cc3 for ; 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The OP specified that he's using pw(8) which also manages the password databases (or should, hence the question). vipw(8) is a different tool altogether., and of the two I'd always recommend pw(8). 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R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[outbound.mailhop.org:s=dkim-high]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[outbound.mailhop.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[28.59.28.52.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.20.0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.26)[ipnet: 52.28.0.0/16(-4.89), asn: 16509(-1.36), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.28.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 11:46:24 -0000 On 2019-09-03 12:01, MJ wrote: > Hi Albert, > > On 3/09/2019 6:56 pm, Albert Shih wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I try to understand how the /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db are updated with /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb. >> >> Anyone known what going to update those file ? >> >> The reason is I try to create a account with pw and sometime I got the >> message >> >> pw: user '*******' disappeared during update >> >> so I just need to do a >> >> /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd >> >> and everything work fine. >> >> But that's not seem to be normal. So I try to find if they are some cron to >> do that and didn't find anything. > > If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to know what rebuilds the master.passwd under "normal" circumstances? > > That would be vipw(8). > > Of course, you can still do as you state here and run pwd_mkdb(8) but better to use the right tool for the job. Well, the "new" pw(8) that Albert uses is just as much "the right tool" as the traditional vipw(8), and arguably more "user friendly". With vipw(8) you obviously update /etc/master.passwd yourself, while pw(8) does that for you - and both of them update /etc/passwd and the databases /etc/spwd.db and /etc/pwd.db, from /etc/master.passwd, ultimately using pwd_mkdb(8). The other difference is that vipw(8) completely re-generates /etc/passwd and the databases, while pw(8) updates only the specific user entry (the -u option is passed to pwd_mkdb(8)). Apparently it's this single user entry update that is failing - or at least the getpwnam() check for the added user that pw(8) does fails - vipw(8) (or pwdb(8) without -u) doesn't do any such check, since they update "everything". Anyway Albert, you obviously "shouldn't" get that error message from pw(8), and you "shouldn't" need to run pwd_mkdb(8) yourself after using pw(8). Are you running NIS? And if so, do you use the -Y option to pw(8)? Since you say that you only get the problem "sometimes", one *guess* is that NIS may not be updated (yet) at the point when pw(8) does the getpwnam() check. *If* that is the case, running pwd_mkdb(8) surely won't help - but the passing of time may fix it... --Per > Remember to set your EDITOR so vipw can use your preferred one. > >> Regards >> >> -- >> Albert SHIH >> Observatoire de Paris >> xmpp: jas@obspm.fr >> Heure local/Local time: >> Tue 03 Sep 2019 10:51:35 AM CEST >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > Regards, > Mark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 11:50:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A17D7E82 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 11:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x632.google.com (mail-pl1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::632]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46N4z06Spnz4FZp for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 11:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl1-x632.google.com with SMTP id y1so7761497plp.9 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 04:50:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AiYDQTRNb8J3WEv/axBxJlFKjUzsJ96ULJns8X+5qxI=; b=F4frBgNNVWtKmjBRcvCmbE2Itl6cu+2Asi3CRJbnkeo6LbeWL3SxaHiGdro9aTD0eK x7IMrGQQHa95zH9c0FnmJwfXaBqkM9pe12d7EhgXj1F21l/5U5LHxKfoytQXcc3KBrbh /gI+F0EiA+NwUMhrX5upI6ytsK9V8INPNWUoYoDVcocO35ys5AzqUYAw2G8/sthM0PvO heAx5g7sXboZJMkg0jJCrUAE/YqtG/Mc7wKA7PuodkOr7iT4JGvTjATRyhzeTavyz68U 5dcmEP489cUk0Z19aGRYsDFyS9ys2SdQCHNMDc6CKcOUHIHa6pJm+jfCR5gQriImFbzc dP5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AiYDQTRNb8J3WEv/axBxJlFKjUzsJ96ULJns8X+5qxI=; b=b1vesOlaIaBUxjH/1sD8zqBHwYKK0WamvYFZHk6FM5qIszoQ2oZHVGV80oQzuV76zc +kJjQVeAHB42YEYFVfaYJE31+szAbIDcndxZYWPVYmVryDOylle/My+mgGV/KOxIrX4p xK3+1jsAGU1JpZwjx8zQVm896HhQurClAMh5iIqExj1h4JrMuk2Oizq9oH72LXN/oOXm O/DWeX/wskkX7mLKFWBxHAAgxEso/qPwyEQ9JGQvmkJbHMJzG2GelB4B97SdbNSbF9Ha 6YJJWEeQ0hHdqfudJkTWm7YMdfMhmUmtnEYAwmp88glZosOLFwYvhoN3p5aBmwu7/GIH l6iQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU81D/tTF8xVJ97NNSbRdmQ1a5c2t7RYpSr0lr5ucH6LOfrZ0mN n0oMaxL6HYUB9I3+VcHZd5q2IVfg X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyJNvVNmw4BQv1V6GvvD31oq5vUPBJCJin4mTqAo0gJk+GLsvk6fmoNe3STbIVS9ic1ywUgEg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:33c1:: with SMTP id b59mr35246700plc.104.1567511450663; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 04:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (C-59-101-177-70.mel.connect.net.au. 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The OP specified that he's using pw(8) which > also manages the password databases (or should, hence the question). > vipw(8) is a different tool altogether., and of the two I'd always > recommend pw(8). Horses for courses. Let me see, last time I had this issue using vipw? Ah, zero. (Oh and I'm real outrageous, I edit /etc/group manually!) Regards, Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 13:08:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E2DDA651 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mx-p1.obspm.fr (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.obspm.fr", Issuer "TERENA SSL CA 3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46N6hj5hk3z4L0K for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from io.chezmoi.fr (io-p2.obspm.fr [145.238.197.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx-p1.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/DIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/04/10) with ESMTP id x83D8YbS050675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 15:08:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 15:08:34 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: master.passwd out of sync Message-ID: <20190903130834.GD13052@io.chezmoi.fr> References: <20190903085614.GD3644@io.chezmoi.fr> <152896fe-e1fa-6c4d-b1e4-97d13ea13539@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.11 (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]); Tue, 03 Sep 2019 15:08:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.3 at mx-p1.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46N6hj5hk3z4L0K X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Albert.Shih@obspm.fr designates 145.238.193.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Albert.Shih@obspm.fr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[20.193.238.145.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[obspm.fr]; IP_SCORE(-2.31)[ip: (-9.69), ipnet: 145.238.0.0/16(-4.84), asn: 2200(3.00), country: FR(-0.00)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2200, ipnet:145.238.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:08:38 -0000 Le 03/09/2019 13:46:17+0200, Per Hedeland a crit > > > > Of course, you can still do as you state here and run pwd_mkdb(8) but better to use the right tool for the job. > > Well, the "new" pw(8) that Albert uses is just as much "the right > tool" as the traditional vipw(8), and arguably more "user friendly". > With vipw(8) you obviously update /etc/master.passwd yourself, while > pw(8) does that for you - and both of them update /etc/passwd and the > databases /etc/spwd.db and /etc/pwd.db, from /etc/master.passwd, > ultimately using pwd_mkdb(8). > > The other difference is that vipw(8) completely re-generates > /etc/passwd and the databases, while pw(8) updates only the specific > user entry (the -u option is passed to pwd_mkdb(8)). Apparently it's > this single user entry update that is failing - or at least the > getpwnam() check for the added user that pw(8) does fails - vipw(8) > (or pwdb(8) without -u) doesn't do any such check, since they update > "everything". > > Anyway Albert, you obviously "shouldn't" get that error message from > pw(8), and you "shouldn't" need to run pwd_mkdb(8) yourself after > using pw(8). Are you running NIS? And if so, do you use the -Y option > to pw(8)? Since you say that you only get the problem "sometimes", one > *guess* is that NIS may not be updated (yet) at the point when pw(8) > does the getpwnam() check. *If* that is the case, running pwd_mkdb(8) > surely won't help - but the passing of time may fix it... To be precise. The creation of the account are launch through puppet agent. The agent crash on the error : Error: Could not create user XXXXXX: Execution of '/usr/sbin/pw useradd XXXXXX -d /home/XXXXXX -u 22607 -g YYY -s /usr/local/bin/bash -G network,wheel -m' returned 67: pw: user 'XXXXXX' disappeared during update Error: /Stage[main]/ZZZ::Accounts::XXXXXX_account/User[XXXXXX]/ensure: change from 'absent' to 'present' failed: Could not create user XXXXXX: Execution of '/usr/sbin/pw useradd XXXXXX -d /home/XXXXXX -u 22607 -g YYY -s /usr/local/bin/bash -G nagios,network,wheel -m' returned 67: pw: user 'XXXXXX' disappeared during update So I try the command manually, and end up with the same error (whew....). I check the puppet provider and it indeed do exactly what it say (and just it say) No account are create actually manually on those server, well more than that generaly no connexion on those server. So I run the pwd_mkdb -u and everything work again. When I writing this answer, something occur to me....all server with problem are no so long ago upgrade from 11.2 to 12.0 with freebsd-update. So maybe the problem are from the freebsd-update, they are a old bug report (fix according https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232921 ) about this problem. I will try again with the next upgrade from 11.2 to 12. Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:57:01 PM CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 13:13:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B570DA9A4 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x442.google.com (mail-wr1-x442.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::442]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46N6pJ46wVz4LMw for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x442.google.com with SMTP id t16so17460557wra.6 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 06:13:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FgJwk/XwEYYfBz3n8NR8MVWbUpK3fZTYx3lab9XPV9Y=; b=hU2aNdkprAjloRpYnRNE5YeD664fhkkz7RN9BIB7Kw3VLXulz88amT1DcndCKt3vxH tJQjcxmtj4du6UYMR8YLjb7yODgBldQE4sR9U0bnf5SxpGVwYrrq32+zVX3/W4p9G213 cGp7jsUrhOkI+wNhaksfiPQr1jFW4KyywaZEA3NUGvxuUQ6bMtKwH91bxbZPTGKkym9B lyBW2DMVwzntTCijeaP93gCYEcSZ1mYUKqg5LZLeUfzHGeec2qRbMboIpcA6lde8Cnmy QknLzsFYrUZZwMinke8qfNAlqIv4kakLD0efHSl25J5vSvgoWw42J1TIE0vTKJlNpf13 PpDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FgJwk/XwEYYfBz3n8NR8MVWbUpK3fZTYx3lab9XPV9Y=; b=fW/B/94+Q0wPBQnaBmwqIl9kfewd78Gju53vxGYmD+apxMSasDtmkCuehGUIEuV4AF By2GLwxLfDeopN+sUP9tOFTHLuvlReWZExKsgByKQU0w6F9hLTrkxswvusFhrv2SWV6M Fe4Q6cytHGtQOsyYBWr/vOGuHKkGheiSHq0WGUi0Ll0vsdtK77Bii727TlrLBeIlrRfg l7b0AyRfp9DLFjz4ohJCZmYYR5E7LLALK2c2otlXB4ECymuA5BiTXFCvQPt01INkWxzT t6u8ZPqrnNEZ4SQo0eZgHxTJ7y1bTxewFRfges3N3uQWLJnWA81+wT0CejGrTd3+MFbl q5Hw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVUWABMlQXHYw+Uka4jDYR8NwZVz6XclCaESwG6w/sMmazn+2YY uENw55nSzbqcMyCb/Awan8FvuMEft7MX2wNh3le+XZRi X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwgX2RIjjEZz/y/7zOA0CYIesw8RQh4SvwRmej1O2/k5EIzyqZO5ySlU7xTwAuyqq/eLYnUDbq6tKxuUqbiokM= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:45c3:: with SMTP id b3mr22383999wrs.207.1567516405693; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Antonio Olivares Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 08:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Insecure $ENV{ENV} while running with -T switch at ./youtube_download.pl To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46N6pJ46wVz4LMw X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=hU2aNdkp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::442 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=olivares14031@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; SUBJECT_HAS_CURRENCY(1.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.66), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.98), asn: 15169(-2.30), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[calomel.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:13:29 -0000 Dear kind folks, Dear kind folks, when running youtube_download.pl, I get that message in title. Is there a way to avoid it? and download the video also. ....... part of script missing ..... use strict; use warnings; # ## Calomel.org ,:, Download Youtube videos ## Script Name : youtube_download.pl ## Version : 0.60 ## Valid from : July 2019 ## URL Page : https://calomel.org/youtube_wget.html ## OS Support : Linux, Mac OSX, OpenBSD, FreeBSD # `:` ## Two arguments ## $1 Youtube URL from the browser ## $2 prefix to the file name of the video (optional) # "youtube_download.pl" 216 lines, 7751 characters olivares@pechs-e154$ ./youtube_download.pl //www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgCvqT54Kq0 Insecure $ENV{ENV} while running with -T switch at ./youtube_download.pl line 76. olivares@pechs-e154$ uname -a FreeBSD pechs-e154 12.0-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 GENERIC amd64 olivares@pechs-e154$ Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 20:38:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE1AD769A for ; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.28.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 20:38:56 -0000 On 2019-09-03 15:08, Albert Shih wrote: > Le 03/09/2019 13:46:17+0200, Per Hedeland a crit >>> >>> Of course, you can still do as you state here and run pwd_mkdb(8) but better to use the right tool for the job. >> >> Well, the "new" pw(8) that Albert uses is just as much "the right >> tool" as the traditional vipw(8), and arguably more "user friendly". >> With vipw(8) you obviously update /etc/master.passwd yourself, while >> pw(8) does that for you - and both of them update /etc/passwd and the >> databases /etc/spwd.db and /etc/pwd.db, from /etc/master.passwd, >> ultimately using pwd_mkdb(8). >> >> The other difference is that vipw(8) completely re-generates >> /etc/passwd and the databases, while pw(8) updates only the specific >> user entry (the -u option is passed to pwd_mkdb(8)). Apparently it's >> this single user entry update that is failing - or at least the >> getpwnam() check for the added user that pw(8) does fails - vipw(8) >> (or pwdb(8) without -u) doesn't do any such check, since they update >> "everything". >> >> Anyway Albert, you obviously "shouldn't" get that error message from >> pw(8), and you "shouldn't" need to run pwd_mkdb(8) yourself after >> using pw(8). Are you running NIS? And if so, do you use the -Y option >> to pw(8)? Since you say that you only get the problem "sometimes", one >> *guess* is that NIS may not be updated (yet) at the point when pw(8) >> does the getpwnam() check. *If* that is the case, running pwd_mkdb(8) >> surely won't help - but the passing of time may fix it... > > To be precise. > > The creation of the account are launch through puppet agent. The agent > crash on the error : > > Error: Could not create user XXXXXX: Execution of '/usr/sbin/pw useradd XXXXXX -d /home/XXXXXX -u 22607 -g YYY -s /usr/local/bin/bash -G network,wheel -m' returned 67: pw: user 'XXXXXX' disappeared during update > Error: /Stage[main]/ZZZ::Accounts::XXXXXX_account/User[XXXXXX]/ensure: change from 'absent' to 'present' failed: Could not create user XXXXXX: Execution of '/usr/sbin/pw useradd XXXXXX -d /home/XXXXXX -u 22607 -g YYY -s /usr/local/bin/bash -G nagios,network,wheel -m' returned 67: pw: user 'XXXXXX' disappeared during update > > So I try the command manually, and end up with the same error (whew....). I > check the puppet provider and it indeed do exactly what it say (and just it say) > > No account are create actually manually on those server, well more than > that generaly no connexion on those server. > > So I run the pwd_mkdb -u and everything work again. Did you see something not work (besides the error message) before running pwd_mkdb? E.g. was the new user actually missing from /etc/passwd? > When I writing this answer, something occur to me....all server with > problem are no so long ago upgrade from 11.2 to 12.0 with freebsd-update. > > So maybe the problem are from the freebsd-update, they are a old bug report > (fix according https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232921 ) about this problem. It's not about "this problem", but about the fact that the upgrade adds a user (ntpd) to /etc/master.passwd without running pwd_mkdb *at all* - thus the new user effectively doesn't exist. But it might be a possibility that the out-of-date /etc/passwd / /etc/spwd.db / /etc/pwd.db somehow causes the "single user entry update" to fail. --Per > I will try again with the next upgrade from 11.2 to 12. > > Regards > > -- > Albert SHIH > Observatoire de Paris > xmpp: jas@obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:57:01 PM CEST > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 3 23:18:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB54DC38B for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 23:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46NNDk3sDdz4WM1 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 23:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C4AF4054E for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 23:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x83NIjIb070480 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 19:18:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x83NIioS070477 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 19:18:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 18:41:28 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT In-Reply-To: <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed ReSent-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 19:18:35 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: doug ReSent-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org ReSent-Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46NNDk3sDdz4WM1 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@fledge.watson.org has no SPF policy when checking 204.107.128.30) smtp.mailfrom=doug@fledge.watson.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@fledge.watson.org]; IP_SCORE(2.20)[ip: (5.85), ipnet: 204.107.128.0/24(2.92), asn: 11288(2.27), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.940,0]; REPLYTO_DN_EQ_FROM_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.128.107.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[doug@safeport.com,doug@fledge.watson.org]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[doug@safeport.com,doug@fledge.watson.org]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de,freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 23:18:47 -0000 On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 05:04:52 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> On 9/2/19 4:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: [cut] >> Something, possibly BSDinstall or, maybe something unknown made the 2 >> Windows 7 disks unbootable. Great, now I can use them for something >> other than adding weight to the box. > > Maybe there is just some damage to the bootcode of each "Windows". > Suggestion: Unplug all disks except one of those (one at each time), > boot with a "Windows" installation / repair DVD, restore the boot > sector - should boot fine again. > > However, it sounds totally wrong that a FreeBSD installer even > _touches_ disks that are not subject to the FreeBSD installation. > I can image that adding boot code (single-boot or boot manager) > to the 1st disk of a setup is possible, but what you're describing > sounds just wrong. Not entirely impossible, but ... In July and August of 2018 I had two very strange things from the installer (11.2). One kinda hosed a HP laptop, I solved that with a lenovo getting FreeBSD added without killing windows. More toubling was was trying to configure a Poudriere server. I bought an HP followed by a Microcenter brand doing a UEFI FreeBSD only install with zfs. Could never boot the HP, the Microcenter system was totally hosed, could not even boot into the BIOS. I returned these puppies next trying a DELL that just worked. One year later the details of all this are long gone, but at the time I finally decided the UEFI setup was not the same across the systems I tried. Windows users never experience this becuase the manufactures make windows work with their stuff. YMMV :) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 4 11:48:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD33EEC66 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2019 11:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from relacionamento@mktgrosario.com.br) Received: from mktgfarmalife.com.br (m3.mktgfarmalife.com.br [177.47.8.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46NhtG55L3z4BQQ for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2019 11:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from relacionamento@mktgrosario.com.br) Comments: 51050_4772203_2276_2273 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mktgrosario.com.br; s=k10; t=1567597000; bh=wlCRHi7rslA2mATwyCqCnUYYtxGgJvBWyKqKUJav+hk=; h=List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:From:To:Reply-To:Date:Subject:From:To: Date:Subject:List-Unsubscribe; b=q2vgsAB4iWyRgzBh1LfMtAVA3GG4y8BgqVsAuayUEk5avxteeOtiQmG1VkvV+7blA Jvn/OwInTILbsNMu0w1B0PmlJ4MgJazQV0wsk090cSdafpsey/GaX0xMx36VXRw8oV d9SUcES9q7nxHiSApG0mB5jElaSM+OD0jNfH7YEo= Feedback-ID: 1971:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org:[19448/4] ROS_NEWSLETTER_SET_2019:D1000 DTM_EFFECTIVEMAIL.ANALYZER: 1b27e5a6-baed-49c9-91a1-d41d0f4156d9 DTM_EFFECTIVEMAIL.ANALYZER.DISPARO.ID: 2276 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ros=C3=A1rio_Plus?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: faleconosco@drogariarosario.com.br Date: 4 Sep 2019 08:36:40 -0300 Subject: =?utf-8?B?SmFuYWluYSwgY2hlZ291IG8gbm9zc28gbcOqcyBwcmVmZXJp?= =?utf-8?B?ZG8h?= Message-Id: <20190904113640.B87FB248CC5@mktgfarmalife.com.br> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46NhtG55L3z4BQQ X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mktgrosario.com.br header.s=k10 header.b=q2vgsAB4; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of relacionamento@mktgrosario.com.br designates 177.47.8.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=relacionamento@mktgrosario.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[faleconosco@drogariarosario.com.br]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mktgrosario.com.br:s=k10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:177.47.8.192/26]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1(2.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mktgrosario.com.br]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.987,0]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.77)[0.767,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mktgrosario.com.br:+]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT(0.10)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.989,0]; MIME_HTML_ONLY(0.20)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:~]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[asn: 16397(2.41), country: BR(0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16397, ipnet:177.47.8.0/22, country:BR] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:48:56 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 5 09:20:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710DADFF90 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46PFX942l4z4SVZ for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5nxE-0004rp-2T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 11:21:24 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i5nvr-001qKY-5W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 11:19:59 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:19:59 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VB (virtualbox-ose-5.2.22_2): Debian boots fine but does not show X11 display Message-ID: <20190905091959.GA439030@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46PFX942l4z4SVZ X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of guru@unixarea.de has no SPF policy when checking 178.254.0.206) smtp.mailfrom=guru@unixarea.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[guru@unixarea.de]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.58)[0.578,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixarea.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.57)[ipnet: 178.254.0.0/19(1.55), asn: 42730(1.29), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.76)[0.757,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.966,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:20:11 -0000 Hello, I have a VB image 'qemu-x86_64.vdi' which contains a bootable amd64 (Debian) Linux system running, an upcoming Linux smartphone (Librem5), more information on this here: https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Development_Environment/Boards/qemu.html The host is a 12-CURRENT amd64 and I compiled VB as virtualbox-ose-5.2.22_2 from ports (as all my other ~1400 packages). The guest boots fine and (perhaps) starts automatically some X11 application (the "phosh", the phone shell). It only shows a blinking cursor, nothing else. I can switch with Alt-F1 to a login shell and login there. It's difficult to do that because the screen jumps always after 1-2 secs back to the tty7 (perhaps the phosh is up there). Same is true for Alt-F2...F6. That's why I think on tty7 is someting running. Why I do not have any screen picture there. What can I do to login via network? I can't configure anything in the Debian with this jumping back after 1-2 secs. The VB manager does not offer host-only network at all, only bridged or NAT. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru at unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub Mientras haya voluntad de lucha habrá esperanza de vencer. 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Neal" Cc: =?gb2312?B?p6On2qfcp+Sn4KfiIKesp+Wn5KfWp9+n3Kfgp9M=?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why i need extract not one needed port, but full catalog never needed ports? References: <1567694626.722400563@f512.i.mail.ru> <20190905151446.GA23904@neutralgood.org> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:04:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190905151446.GA23904@neutralgood.org> (Kevin P. Neal's message of "Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:14:46 -0400") Message-ID: <44o8zyenl7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46PQVx747tz3x2C X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.880,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[ip: (0.15), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.42), asn: 7922(-1.21), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.517,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[mail.ru]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 16:04:44 -0000 "Kevin P. Neal" writes: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 05:43:46PM +0300, =A7=A3=A7=DA=A7=DC=A7=E4=A7=E0= =A7=E2 =A7=AC=A7=E5=A7=E4=A7=D6=A7=DF=A7=DC=A7=E0=A7=D3 via freebsd-questio= ns wrote: >>=20 >> Hello. >> I'm try find minimum size OS for server / and as desktop.=20 >> For server I try use freebsd+nginx+python. >> For desktop freebsd+i3. >> The clear freebsd size is ~1Gb. - it is the minimum OS that i found - It= is my favorite now. >> I like work with ports. But why i need dowload and extract ~1Gb empty fo= lders? Is it posible to use next algoritm, for example: >> Do not make portsnap fetch extract >> immediately after installing the system make: >> # /usr/ports/x11/xorg make install clean >> 1. freebsd check the directory /usr/ports/x11/xorg >> >> it is empty >> 2. freebsd check the internet for search "/usr/ports/x11/xorg" >> >> it is found "data" >> 3. freebsd dowload and compile data from internet. >> Why it must make portsnap extract ALL never needed empty folders to >> system before? Is it posible make in future - search and extract >> from internet only one needed port? Like # pkg install xorg > > There are a number of reasons for requiring all of /usr/ports including > the practical impossibility of figuring out ahead of time exactly what is > needed. And even if you wanted to download the files for each port > individually it would take forever iterating until things stopped failing. > Version skew during this process could also be an issue. It's not impossible; it just takes more time and knowledge.=20 In particular, knowledge of make(1) and bsd.port.mk. 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But why i need dowload and extract ~1Gb empty folders? The ports collection that you install locally is a "collection of recipes on how to build software", i. e., the directories aren't empty, they just contain very few (and small) files that describe build procedures, dependencies, and other things. This framework can then be used with regular build tools already provided by the system, like "make search", "make install", or "make deinstall". > Is it posible to use next algoritm, for example: > Do not make portsnap fetch extract > immediately after installing the system make: > # /usr/ports/x11/xorg make install clean > 1. freebsd check the directory /usr/ports/x11/xorg > >> it is empty > 2. freebsd check the internet for search "/usr/ports/x11/xorg" > >> it is found "data" > 3. freebsd dowload and compile data from internet. > Why it must make portsnap extract ALL never needed empty folders to > system before? This is not possible because it would introduce a chain of further "find & download" tasks - for example, X has certain dependencies, those also have dependencies, and they need to be build or present _before_ building X is possible. The ports tree doesn't consume much disk space. Sidenote: If you want to avoid ports, you can always use pkg: "pkg install" will not require the ports tree to be installed; it will resolve the dependencies required by a specific port, and download and install them. No further disk space is needed for building, as no building happens. Only a small database is maintained by pkg itself. > Is it posible make in future - search and extract from internet > only one needed port? Like # pkg install xorg As I mentioned, dependencies have to be considered, and the ports tree contains that information. Furthermore, some ports are just "metaports", so they entirely depend on other ports. > This thought haunts from the very beginning of acquaintance with bsd. > Sorry for my illiteracy in IT The current state of the ports collection is a consensus of space vs. usability. Having only the "recipes" stored locally, and obtaining the actual sources (!) only when required is a decision made long time ago. (NB: For closed source software, "sources" refers to the actual binaries which a "make install" call would download and install.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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O haciendo click en el siguiente enlace. unsubscribe from this list From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 5 17:51:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB92EECC0 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scaner@lavtech.ru) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46PStg2yTdz49YJ for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scaner@lavtech.ru) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6536EEECBF; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B5DEECBE for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scaner@lavtech.ru) Received: from mail.lavtech.ru (mail3.mnogo.ru [212.158.160.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46PStd3s8Qz49Y1 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scaner@lavtech.ru) Received: from lavtech.ru (unknown [37.120.140.217]) by mail.lavtech.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B54F1BE60AA for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 20:34:55 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: info@freebsd.org From: Admin Center To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Notice: New Inbox messages returned- failure to sync Date: 05 Sep 2019 10:34:48 -0700 Message-ID: <20190905103447.8B863DE599DD0E0E@lavtech.ru> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46PStd3s8Qz49Y1 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of scaner@lavtech.ru designates 212.158.160.79 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=scaner@lavtech.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [12.43 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[info@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:212.158.160.79/32]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_WP_URI(0.00)[]; PH_SURBL_MULTI(5.50)[millermedtech.com.multi.surbl.org]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:~,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197695, ipnet:212.158.160.0/23, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.992,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/related]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.10)[2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lavtech.ru]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[79.160.158.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; MIME_HTML_ONLY(0.20)[]; IP_SCORE(2.54)[ip: (5.91), ipnet: 212.158.160.0/23(2.96), asn: 197695(3.80), country: RU(0.01)]; R_NO_SPACE_IN_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 17:51:55 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 5 21:22:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C800D403E for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 21:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46PYYT6hb8z4NyY for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 21:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Why i need extract not one needed port, but full catalog never needed ports? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 15:22:20 -0600 References: <1567694626.722400563@f512.i.mail.ru> <20190905182710.9675eb8f.freebsd@edvax.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20190905182710.9675eb8f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46PYYT6hb8z4NyY X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.979,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.862,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.85), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.23), asn: 209(-0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:22:23 -0000 On 5 Sep 2019, at 10:27, Polytropon wrote: > The ports tree doesn't consume much disk space. The only time I can see the size of ports being an issue is if you are = running on a mini machine like a pi, but even then, it=E2=80=99s what, = about 1GB? Put in a 32GZB microSD instead of that 8. > If you want to avoid ports, you can always use pkg: "pkg install" > will not require the ports tree to be installed; it will resolve > the dependencies required by a specific port, and download and > install them. No further disk space is needed for building, as > no building happens. Only a small database is maintained by pkg > itself. This works very well up until you need to customize a package, and then = you need to figure out yourself if that change requires dependancies to = also be rebuilt. AFAIK, there=E2=80=99s no real good way to integrate a = pkg install and a ports install. But if you are fine with existing packages and their build options (and = I=E2=80=99d guess most people are?) pkg is definitely the way to go. --=20 Stone circles were common enough everywhere in the mountains. 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"The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------- [image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 08:41:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A98ED34E for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-004.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-004.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Prcy1d4hz43bl for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-004.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 415A920190572; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:41:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=curlew.localnet) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id 1i69nk-0001BS-Rv; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 09:41:04 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "@lbutlr" Subject: Re: Why i need extract not one needed port, but full catalog never needed ports? Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 09:41:04 +0100 Message-ID: <11703575.5MqMfjp4zD@curlew> In-Reply-To: References: <1567694626.722400563@f512.i.mail.ru> <20190905182710.9675eb8f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Prcy1d4hz43bl X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk designates 95.142.156.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; IP_SCORE(1.17)[ipnet: 95.142.156.0/22(3.48), asn: 198047(2.43), country: GB(-0.08)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[milibyte.co.uk]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.881,0]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.941,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.156.142.95.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198047, ipnet:95.142.156.0/22, country:GB]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[] X-Spam: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 08:41:23 -0000 On Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:22:20 BST @lbutlr wrote: > AFAIK, there=E2=80=99s no real good way to integrate a pkg install and a = ports install. It works quite well if you sync your ports tree against the version used fo= r the current pkg repository. I have a couple of packages which I build from ports because I need differe= nt options for one of them and the licensing prevents the distribution of a= binary for the other. I have no problems building and installing them when= I sync the ports tree against the pkg repository. To sync my ports tree I use a modified copy of https://gist.github.com/reed= acartwright/8622973baf89b263a6d7 . Unfortunately the script at github hasn'= t been updated since 2015 so doesn't have details of package servers for F= reeBSD versions later than 10.x but is easy to update if you can find the h= ostname of the relevant build server, e.g. beefy6.nyi.freebsd.org for 12.0 = AMD64. An ideal alternative would be if the package system could have a command wh= ich would return the SVN revision of the ports tree used for building the c= urrent repository. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 10:06:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C35EEE84 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46PtWf3lSwz47nR for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from home.lan (unknown [77.109.105.33]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8EB91D4FC2C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:06:49 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gpart bootcode for MBR + ZFS? Message-ID: <20190906100649.GH38457@home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tcC6YSqBgqqkz7Sb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46PtWf3lSwz47nR X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=z@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=z@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.87 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.979,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[33.105.109.77.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[5a=XB=perdition.city=julien]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.89)[ip: (-8.68), ipnet: 193.191.192.0/19(-4.34), asn: 2611(-1.43), country: BE(-0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 10:06:56 -0000 --tcC6YSqBgqqkz7Sb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, It's a long time since I had to deal with MBR partition scheme.. I had to replace a disk (ada1) in an old machine with the following partition scheme: ~/ gpart show =3D> 63 4294967232 ada0 MBR (3.6T) 63 1 - free - (512B) 64 4294967224 1 freebsd [active] (2.0T) 4294967288 7 - free - (3.5K) =3D> 0 4294967224 ada0s1 BSD (2.0T) 0 4194304 1 freebsd-zfs (2.0G) 4194304 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) 71303168 4223664048 4 freebsd-zfs (2.0T) 4294967216 8 - free - (4.0K) =3D> 63 4294967232 ada1 MBR (3.6T) 63 1 - free - (512B) 64 4294967224 1 freebsd [active] (2.0T) 4294967288 7 - free - (3.5K) =3D> 0 4294967224 ada1s1 BSD (2.0T) 0 4194304 1 freebsd-zfs (2.0G) 4194304 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) 71303168 4223664048 4 freebsd-zfs (2.0T) 4294967216 8 - free - (4.0K) I did the usual:=20 $> gpart backup ada0 | gpart restore -F ada1 $> gpart backup ada0s1 | gpart restore -F ada1s1 $> gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot0 ada1 My question is: is it enough or do I need to dd /boot/zfsboot somewhere =2E.? ZFS pools are: ~/ zpool status pool: bootpool state: ONLINE status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can still be used, but some features are unavailable. action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. scan: resilvered 183M in 0 days 00:01:40 with 0 errors on Fri Sep 6 11:1= 3:54 2019 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM bootpool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s1a ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1s1a ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: zroot state: ONLINE status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered. The pool will continue to function, possibly in a degraded state. action: Wait for the resilver to complete. scan: resilver in progress since Fri Sep 6 11:11:33 2019 410G scanned at 138M/s, 210G issued at 70.9M/s, 632G total 210G resilvered, 33.21% done, 0 days 01:41:39 to go config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors and I have the following in loader.conf: vfs.root.mountfrom=3D"zfs:zroot/ROOT/default" zfs_load=3D"YES" zpool_cache_load=3D"YES" zpool_cache_name=3D"/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" zpool_cache_type=3D"/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" Thank you! Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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It does, but you have to do one of the following whenever your build options are different from the port's standard options: a) use "pkg lock" and "pkg unlock" in case of a pkg-based upgrade, and rebuild your custom port from synced-again sources, or b) use poudriere to create a custom repository which pkg uses when performing the upgrade. Depending on _how many_ custom ports you have, one solution is more convenient than the other. Also always keep in mind that introducing a non-standard feature (i. e., enabling one in "make config" that is not selected for the default configuration) might have an effect on other ports, either introducing new dependencies, or requiring another port to be built with a custom option. But that is nothing basically new, it was almost the same in ye olden times when portmaster and the pkg_* tools roamed the FreeBSD software ecosystem. ;-) > I have a couple of packages which I build from ports because > I need different options for one of them and the licensing > prevents the distribution of a binary for the other. I have > no problems building and installing them when I sync the ports > tree against the pkg repository. Exactly that is the typical case where "pkg install" from the default repository is not a solution. > An ideal alternative would be if the package system could have > a command which would return the SVN revision of the ports tree > used for building the current repository. That would be helpful. Checking out that particular version would be easier than grepping in ports' revision histories... By the way, this would probably fill the gap that portdowngrade left behind, i. e., when you know that version 1.2.7 was the last usable version of a particular program, but 1.8.1 is current, and you want to build 1.2.7 - either with the current version of the rest of the ports tree, or with the version that matched _that_ (older) version number, could be maybe because it contained libraries that have been removed in a later version of the tree. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 11:20:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8345EF0BE2 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Pw882KbTz4DhX for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.101.54]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1McXwD-1ij7XN3lnB-00d0rU; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:20:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:20:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. 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Dean wrote: > On 9/2/19 7:48 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 06:54:42 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> I downloaded the FreeBSD DVD1. Disabled USB 3.0 support in the "UEFI > >> BIOS", as ASUS calls it. Now, FreeBSD does not go into the xhci loop. > > > > Very good! By the way, the commonly accepted terminology is > > either "BIOS" or "UEFI" - it's one or the other. Maybe ASUS > > is already infested by brainless marketing drones... ;-) > > Yes, that is why I quoted ASUS! This motherboard is 7 or 8 years old. So software support should be there. > I have those 3 unused (now) disks, so might as well play... Allow me a sidenote regarding bsdinstall in comparison to ye olde sysinstall (which is no longer part of the documentation): When I installed FreeBSD 12.0 amd64, I noticed that all filesystems were initialized as UFS SU+J = with soft updates and journaling. Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp /dev/ada0p2"). At no point during the installation I was asked or had a chance to set how the partitions should be initialized! And imagine a typical "one-partition" system (actually 3 partitions: boot, /, swap) where you cannot easily boot into SUM, have / mounted ro (which is required for changing filesystem attributes) and use tunefs to turn it off - no, you need to boot from external media, which is "nice" when this option is not available... Combined with the desasster that is vt, bsdinstall is somehow a disimprovement for the slightly advanced user... :-/ > I think FreeBSD does not fully support my USB 3.0 controller. Linux > uses the xhci_hcd driver. FreeBSD seems to use the xhci_pci driver?? Could it be possible that you need to load a "support module", i. e., /boot/kernel/acpi_.ko, to make FreeBSD recognize the USB 3.0 ports correctly? If the board's UEFI does support "legacy BIOS booting", try that as well. > On Linux: > p9x79> sudo lspci -v | grep -i asm1042 -B5 -A10 > Capabilities: [80] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 > Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel > Kernel driver in use: ahci > Kernel modules: ahci > > 08:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB > Host Controller (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P8B WS Motherboard > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > Memory at fbc00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K] > Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/8 Maskable- 64bit+ > Capabilities: [68] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=8 Masked- > Capabilities: [78] Power Management version 3 > Capabilities: [80] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 > Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel > Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd > > 09:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB > Host Controller (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P8B WS Motherboard > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 > Memory at fbb00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K] > Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/8 Maskable- 64bit+ > Capabilities: [68] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=8 Masked- > Capabilities: [78] Power Management version 3 > Capabilities: [80] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 > Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel > Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd Yes, looks like a typical USB 3.0 interface. FreeBSD should be able to support that. As I said, check if an additional module might be required. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 11:55:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581BF14A9 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Pwx36HQHz4G64 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from home.lan (unknown [77.109.105.33]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A2D01D4FC2C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:55:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:55:31 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart bootcode for MBR + ZFS? Message-ID: <20190906115531.GI38457@home.lan> References: <20190906100649.GH38457@home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3U8TY7m7wOx7RL1F" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190906100649.GH38457@home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Pwx36HQHz4G64 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=z@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=z@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[33.105.109.77.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[5a=XB=perdition.city=julien]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.93)[ip: (-8.75), ipnet: 193.191.192.0/19(-4.38), asn: 2611(-1.50), country: BE(-0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 11:55:36 -0000 --3U8TY7m7wOx7RL1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 12:06:49PM +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, >=20 > It's a long time since I had to deal with MBR partition scheme.. > I had to replace a disk (ada1) in an old machine with the following > partition scheme: >=20 > ~/ gpart show > =3D> 63 4294967232 ada0 MBR (3.6T) > 63 1 - free - (512B) > 64 4294967224 1 freebsd [active] (2.0T) > 4294967288 7 - free - (3.5K) >=20 > =3D> 0 4294967224 ada0s1 BSD (2.0T) > 0 4194304 1 freebsd-zfs (2.0G) > 4194304 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) > 71303168 4223664048 4 freebsd-zfs (2.0T) > 4294967216 8 - free - (4.0K) >=20 > =3D> 63 4294967232 ada1 MBR (3.6T) > 63 1 - free - (512B) > 64 4294967224 1 freebsd [active] (2.0T) > 4294967288 7 - free - (3.5K) >=20 > =3D> 0 4294967224 ada1s1 BSD (2.0T) > 0 4194304 1 freebsd-zfs (2.0G) > 4194304 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) > 71303168 4223664048 4 freebsd-zfs (2.0T) > 4294967216 8 - free - (4.0K) >=20 > I did the usual:=20 > $> gpart backup ada0 | gpart restore -F ada1 > $> gpart backup ada0s1 | gpart restore -F ada1s1 > $> gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot0 ada1 >=20 > My question is: is it enough or do I need to dd /boot/zfsboot somewhere > ..? >=20 > ZFS pools are: >=20 > ~/ zpool status > pool: bootpool > state: ONLINE > status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can > still be used, but some features are unavailable. > action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, > the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support > the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. > scan: resilvered 183M in 0 days 00:01:40 with 0 errors on Fri Sep 6 11= :13:54 2019 > config: >=20 > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > bootpool ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1a ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1s1a ONLINE 0 0 0 >=20 > errors: No known data errors >=20 > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered. The pool will > continue to function, possibly in a degraded state. > action: Wait for the resilver to complete. > scan: resilver in progress since Fri Sep 6 11:11:33 2019 > 410G scanned at 138M/s, 210G issued at 70.9M/s, 632G total > 210G resilvered, 33.21% done, 0 days 01:41:39 to go > config: >=20 > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 >=20 > errors: No known data errors >=20 > and I have the following in loader.conf: >=20 > vfs.root.mountfrom=3D"zfs:zroot/ROOT/default" > zfs_load=3D"YES" > zpool_cache_load=3D"YES" > zpool_cache_name=3D"/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" > zpool_cache_type=3D"/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > Julien =46rom what I understand I /boot/boot0 (or mbr) only provides stage 0, for stage 1 and stage 2 I should use: $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1 count=3D1 $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1a iseek=3D1 oseek=3D1024 However I'm getting a "Operation not permitted" even with kern.geom.debugflags=3D0x10 .. any idea? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Judging by the prompt... are you doing this as root? $ suggests a non-root user, who of course is not permitted to write to a disk device file directly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 14:13:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED22F4C08 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 14:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Q00V2ccfz4Ply for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 14:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=z+5a=XB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from home.lan (unknown [77.109.105.33]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77D331D500F5; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:13:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:13:42 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart bootcode for MBR + ZFS? Message-ID: <20190906141342.GJ38457@home.lan> References: <20190906100649.GH38457@home.lan> <20190906115531.GI38457@home.lan> <20190906155834.685b57a2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yr/DzoowOgTDcSCF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190906155834.685b57a2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Q00V2ccfz4Ply X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=z@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=z@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; IP_SCORE(-2.96)[ip: (-8.83), ipnet: 193.191.192.0/19(-4.41), asn: 2611(-1.56), country: BE(-0.01)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[33.105.109.77.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[5a=XB=perdition.city=julien]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=z@bebif.be]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 14:13:47 -0000 --yr/DzoowOgTDcSCF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:34PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:55:31 +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: > > From what I understand I /boot/boot0 (or mbr) only provides stage 0, for > > stage 1 and stage 2 I should use: > > $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1 count=3D1 > > $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1a iseek=3D1 oseek=3D1024 > >=20 > > However I'm getting a "Operation not permitted" even with > > kern.geom.debugflags=3D0x10 .. any idea? >=20 > Judging by the prompt... are you doing this as root? $ suggests > a non-root user, who of course is not permitted to write to a > disk device file directly. Yes, I'm doing this as root ..=20 I did the following: $> gpart backup ada0 | gpart restore -F ada1 $> gpart backup ada0s1 | gpart restore -F ada1s1 $> zpool attach bootpool ada0s1a ada1s1a $> zpool attach zroot ada0s1d ada1s1d $> gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr ada1 $> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D0x10 $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1 count=3D1 $> dd if=3D/boot/zfsboot of=3D/dev/ada1s1a iseek=3D1 oseek=3D1024 (last two steps failed) I'm wondering if this is because ZFS is involved ..? (although man 4 geom doesn't say anything about thatr) Julien >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Best regards, Mark Nicholls, (SEO expert) ------------------------------------------------------- Note: Kindly please email with the subject line "Interested" or allow me to sent "Website Audit Report" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 18:25:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E20D3233 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Q5ZZ1Qqfz4j5c for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600 References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Q5ZZ1Qqfz4j5c X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.980,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.85), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.23), asn: 209(-0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.909,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:25:11 -0000 On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: > Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup data = partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp /dev/ada0p2=E2=80=9D).= I=E2=80=99m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to a = problem with dump. Pick one fo the following: 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content 3. Use an older disk format --=20 "You're just impressed by any pretty girl who can walk and talk." "She doesn't have to talk.=E2=80=9D From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 18:37:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5ED380C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 76nemo76@gmx.ch) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Q5rX6NSxz4kB5 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 76nemo76@gmx.ch) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1567795028; bh=hjgI1P9ndFNbcu7yWXIniSdT2dxAzjca+ISrn1tUjyI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject; b=eVy3wLHUQJJAOXmroMmv0qNMIxE52rzYIzJmiYfuvur+wJHvcONLB++/NLzrdwtBO 90IzDw/crSbIetmxBrDnqTH7mzuartllW0TgNyuEPyqtm8gyDa2zgZyXB82YsZf0+l qowRlSU/MsNZJoX99lU3mJk34ufmfZgxNVtTUmEw= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from virtualisation ([85.195.219.254]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M2O6e-1i92fZ05Ww-003tCm for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:29:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:29:31 +0200 From: Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ping6 www.freebsd.org hangs Message-Id: <20190906192931.d5735e1602f98d6b9a2906c0@gmx.ch> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dhBCds2mvXOMn4xUzOXn3+XDa4GZKEwqP7e6OxxF5Zvk8wvL5u1 1D+W3sE25iR4WLdg2IUvf16CO0oD83gPlxGLZuBOXf5MrPkPg19D983oj1oxICwPJye46L9 H4g7nGkhpySlCJ8kqXG+Hz0b7QB5uju/TkzNTDDChUAV9x9NBd+LFLml2NZPHnWmV4FVnZC Et2tYIo7VdwtMAmayscxw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qWi64DRoKek=:J/+8/XY+zKjK5jutDn9oCR sJK5wyOr8oQE/6Qhg22tQKjKEsV+Gzzh7dRcW8oybTiOF9oD/Y216796uwHCJSXBVFdNhSUVJ HJsVqv7m4QjARaYPqYiJpKaXAbNjbxC1toeYiXPOHZPPvbw6ON+2mrj1Zw3cSCgxoWadceLNt 5Zo/4sCFWmnS1o9lzvcHxl8zejxq2CNbYiH+BPNLvNkqXhOonENzgJvWh+leaSBGd+wviwnJg qW8m3YIKko2yYvHqZYp8ewMG7CQiShoCEaVwUB/IK1xBGmuXn5R0HU5kXjUai1PV9VnEgenuU JFIi3Qc/xw0TrqdU7rD1NdJIf8c4mH2KPsXejy0F5bZt8yBTj8JOcvU05UuG47v1d80P3gV0W qo/CosVugtpzlfjLi3gxEZS/mOesC8B4Xgfq30mBdlSN4Q1rtz/UB6Rey5d7oTHcqGAMVGCD5 Hz0b/I1Eoi/mPqXCDWX/sinC7fREUAXTGp7TLkrysoYzYFj20U/0clkJFCnZD6/EAzKo/VNyM cx4Yfsek3uX04rBqqEk4dLWbEhAe6wuDcEGI8wpduLNg4WpZ0LNdFGJtUPsFrCNdxdEQ4vXnN R6lkjn++SZH48Xoqtd43aWz+xhcw20qWpB8gwNjh35RDgI1oLJfLvHN8RmdjY+poDcCCyAtrb pe7LfkTcNqOmjsjntvmxDwFNhgtex+0S2udA1/tPje8jNqwlY4Bef4TtvPuZI72YQpS8V2eeX aUu7vWphXYYoYAiVQyPBQm+TNa02RXwmWPG/lV2NhdTSmU3iz1e1O4b+QKCD4rgb2lTaASIpS GfWMeZZ0H/HAU38B9sDLkjnjfts9Hkku8HSz6qDDYKl10GZMXfjemS7ndFQyDlkmbjQ4xT1os bpVFcNO8F1bVAZBJl8mOMYIy8Ko1R8yPbLNwOW9GHa+/uH2GJ+EWq/W7OHhEtX+OIM/ZCBp/l x2F1NKw7IVH0P78lC61NgxL7aRx4zeXmPNPOfWi1lOGIqdE7XvxLwFKNwzspmAvCbwN9a7qtm MToZtRtzB+4+P9s5S7n8IED2f+gNBM1NuVV/Qdyyw1t05riJLt44YD6SR8vvZIFotDZZLrd9/ XA61wHBy8iStIW5nG8a3oukT84VJDMbX81j1ZcUTuVRnNeq5wvJhUsmrH/jvH3dQeAHqOaSvB uUghuDmG7hIOlDGY2cm+79DXK/5BpVi/y043hMEfVlaJl/E82SoubUJvKmwBSCuPZLAug= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Q5rX6NSxz4kB5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=eVy3wLHU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 76nemo76@gmx.ch designates 212.227.15.15 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=76nemo76@gmx.ch X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.227.15.0/25]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmx.ch]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmx.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.79), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.ch]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmx.net:s=badeba3b8450]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gmx.ch]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:37:18 -0000 Hi All, Sometime when I try to pass the command "ping6 www.freebsd.org" or "ping6 www.google.org" on 12.0-RELEASE-p7 the ping hangs. But after a moment (perhaps 5 minutes), if the command is tried again it works. If I do the same command at the same time from some other machines (FreeBSD 8, many different Linux) the command succeeds without problems. Normally the routers inside the network let pass the ICMP traffic about packet size problem. Do you have an idea what could happens? Thanks =2D- Gmail <76nemo76@gmx.ch> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 19:07:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445E0D43D2 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Q6WP13MNz4ltV for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF370C9B2 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3471:a629:d0ac:ea01]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 342A9F038 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/342A9F038; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: ping6 www.freebsd.org hangs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190906192931.d5735e1602f98d6b9a2906c0@gmx.ch> From: 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19:07:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4l00A0LzQbu8bUbwKNHhDvPc7WnvlKwLk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="m8M25GVXcqzBTgZrTvAF9LBwquWrCKE96"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: ping6 www.freebsd.org hangs References: <20190906192931.d5735e1602f98d6b9a2906c0@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <20190906192931.d5735e1602f98d6b9a2906c0@gmx.ch> --m8M25GVXcqzBTgZrTvAF9LBwquWrCKE96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/09/2019 18:29, Pierre Dupond wrote: > Sometime when I try to pass the command > "ping6 www.freebsd.org" or "ping6 www.google.org" on 12.0-RELEASE-p7 > the ping hangs. But after a moment (perhaps 5 minutes), > if the command is tried again it works. >=20 Do you get the same effect if you ping an IP number directly? eg. instead of ping6 www.freebsd.org try: ping6 2610:1c1:1:606c::50:15 If there is a difference, that suggests the problem is not actually with the pinging, but with the DNS lookup to find the AAAA record of the host you want to ping. 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IP_SCORE(0.57)[ip: (2.04), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 21:44:36 -0000 On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: > > Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup > > data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp /dev/ada0p2”). > > I’m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to a problem > with dump. I'm not primarily complaining about the problems between journaling and dump, I'm complaining because the _choice_ is gone (or at least choice now requires additional booting and fiddling with what has been possible with ye olde sysinstall for decades). > Pick one fo the following: > > 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc > 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content > 3. Use an older disk format This is not always possible. Imagine a setting where you need to introduce a new UFS-based system to a conglomerate where dumps are obtained automatically at runtime. None (!) of the things listed above is a solution. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 6 22:28:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02147D9237 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46QBzV19whz3F0t for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:28:36 -0600 References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <668AE706-2B7D-40F9-B88A-208797D419BB@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46QBzV19whz3F0t X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.979,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.82), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.23), asn: 209(-0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.911,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 22:28:39 -0000 On 6 Sep 2019, at 15:44, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: >> On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: >>> Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup >>> data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp = /dev/ada0p2=E2=80=9D). >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to = a problem >> with dump. >=20 > I'm not primarily complaining about the problems between journaling > and dump, I'm complaining because the _choice_ is gone (or at least > choice now requires additional booting and fiddling with what has been > possible with ye olde sysinstall for decades). The defaults are always going to annoy some people. I=E2=80=99d say = using dump for backup seems like it=E2=80=99s pretty much and edge case = these days. >> Pick one fo the following: >>=20 >> 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc >> 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content >> 3. Use an older disk format >=20 > This is not always possible. Imagine a setting where you need to > introduce a new UFS-based system to a conglomerate where dumps are > obtained automatically at runtime. None (!) of the things listed > above is a solution. Why does it have to be UFS and why can=E2=80=99t you manually format the = disk if you really care that much? --=20 MY MOM IS NOT DATING JERRY SIENFELD Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF06=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 7 12:47:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10155D1998 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 12:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46QZ2R63mDz4XbP for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 12:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.162.60]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mk178-1iZ13f10ye-00kN1n; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 14:47:03 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 14:46:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Convert MBR Partitions to GPT Message-Id: <20190907144659.33354f88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <668AE706-2B7D-40F9-B88A-208797D419BB@kreme.com> References: <1ef6d7eb-a7c9-2a5d-12b2-20c4ef255523@wavecable.com> <20190902133941.e563291f.freebsd@edvax.de> <0e0c086c-a907-d224-98b8-9486d921e7a5@wavecable.com> <20190902141116.264edd01.freebsd@edvax.de> <88cabc53-eff5-3e1a-6e77-2d86da2b8c8d@wavecable.com> <20190902164836.98486301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906132003.a0e2c6a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190906234411.9aba1e00.freebsd@edvax.de> <668AE706-2B7D-40F9-B88A-208797D419BB@kreme.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; 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IP_SCORE(0.54)[ip: (0.34), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.22), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 12:47:29 -0000 On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:28:36 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 6 Sep 2019, at 15:44, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:25:21 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > >> On 6 Sep 2019, at 05:20, Polytropon wrote: > >>> Now, journaling tends to cause problems when using dump to backup > >>> data partition-wise (e. g., "dump -0Lauf /mnt/rootfs.dmp /dev/ada0p2”). > >> > >> I’m not sure that is a problem with journaling as opposed to a problem > >> with dump. > > > > I'm not primarily complaining about the problems between journaling > > and dump, I'm complaining because the _choice_ is gone (or at least > > choice now requires additional booting and fiddling with what has been > > possible with ye olde sysinstall for decades). > > The defaults are always going to annoy some people. I’d say using dump > for backup seems like it’s pretty much and edge case these days. I wouldn't say that. Over the years, I've encountered many settings where there's more than only one partition per disk, and several disks in a system, and backing up data partition-wise is very convenient. As opposed to tools like cp, rsync, or tar, a dump has the advantage that _all_ information (especially "meta-information" such as flags, extended attributes, symlinks and hardlinks) can be saved and restored (!) exactly 1:1, as it should be. Sure, this approach has advantages and disadvantages, but omitting the _choice_ is, in my oinion, the wrong thing to do for the installer. I fully agree with you that SU+J is fine for many settings, especially for "one disk, one partition" single-user systems. Still the installer could offer a means to change that setting, while presenting SU+J as the default. It's not that hard, even ye olde sysinstall did it in a way that I would call "the correct way". :-( > >> Pick one fo the following: > >> > >> 1. Journaling and rsync/tar/etc > >> 2. ZFS Journaling/snapshots and dump to your heart's content > >> 3. Use an older disk format > > > > This is not always possible. Imagine a setting where you need to > > introduce a new UFS-based system to a conglomerate where dumps are > > obtained automatically at runtime. None (!) of the things listed > > above is a solution. > > Why does it have to be UFS and why can’t you manually format the disk > if you really care that much? This is exactly what I want to avoid when I use an installer tool such as bsdinstall. Sure, I now (!) tend to not use bsdinstall, and drop to the CLI in the first step, so I can do the initialization of the filesystems as needed. But that fully defeats the purpose of having the installer. Remember sysinstall? You could change (!) the settings for the automated tasks before they took place, and you would even _know_ what settings would be applied _before_ the steps started. Now, the way the filesystems will be initialized is obscure - you can only see it afterwards. With sysinstall, you could also combine automated and manual things. I have not tried this yet with bsdinstall, but maybe this is a way to deal with it: Partition and init via CLI, then return to the installer, which then actually installs FreeBSD to the prepared partitions? Still a bit inconvenient, but it would work for the cases where journaling is not desired. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I=E2=80=99d sa= y using dump > > for backup seems like it=E2=80=99s pretty much and edge case these= days. > =20 > I wouldn't say that. Over the years, I've encountered many settings > where there's more than only one partition per disk, and several > disks in a system, and backing up data partition-wise is very > convenient. =09If I remember correctly ... =09There is a paper out there - now somewhat old but I believe available on-line - that compares various backup/restore methods for UNIXish systems. =09The conclusion was: many things can work for specific needs, but dump/restore is the only one that does the comnplete job every time. =09 I =5Fthink=5F the author was Elizabeth Zwicky. =09=09=09Respectfully, =09=09=09=09Robert Huff