From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 08:22:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9941DCCFE for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 08:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from mail-01.thismonkey.com (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thismonkey.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Vzpl6zJHz3JjB for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 08:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) X-TM-Via-MX: mail-01.thismonkey.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thismonkey.com; s=dkim; t=1575793360; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=v10AOWl2L4uIlmEFhAZHN8lb3oFCKikBhocXwLMGYuE=; b=Kiph4vXtjnJ+CQiKCc5z5oGyIqoTRhNYBJIIufdq2QvQ5bI0p/TJ1YWK+PW12NzN9LVRVa L7EI3rbSpOVv4BBCssDk5eQn4YUvMUOCknHggcebKaKJ7e0b+LWaEGFoNAZOH3p31g9iqx GYrKooZ3SISXPnqDu+uaUPTSluRjCdE= Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (utility-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6601:0:0:a01:120]) by mail-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xB88Mcq0065550 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:22:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xB88McF5093405 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:22:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xB88MbRL093404 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:22:37 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:22:37 +1100 From: Scott Aitken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross-compiling with go for arm on amd64. Possible? 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Unfortunately that didn't > > work as the Go dependency ran out of RAM compiling. And there's no package > > for Go... > > > > So I fired up a VM and installed ports-mgmt/poudriere. Set it all up and > > added dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 to my shopping list... > > > > Unfortunately it skipped lang/go: > > > > Code: > > [00:01:14] [01] [00:00:00] Building lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 > > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Finished lang/go | go-1.13.4,1: Ignored: fails to > > build with qemu-user-static > > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Skipping dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 | > > dnscrypt-proxy2-2.0.31_1: Dependent port lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 ignored > > > > Apparently Go 1.3 won't compile under the emulator (see PR 221297 for some > > background. > > > > Is it possible for go to cross-compile for arm on amd64? > > I don't know about cross-compiling, but I have built go from source on a > Raspberry Pi 2. In my case I was running 12.1-RELEASE, and I built > go-1.13.1,1 about 2 weeks ago. My typescript file doesn't show any > errors, and time showed a 28 minute build time and another 15 minutes to > create a binary package. That was after installing the go14 binary > package. > > -- > Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org > Hi Carl, I had no luck as I said. I killed every daemon I could and simply saw the memory in top approach zero after about 3 minutes into the build, and then the core dump. Other than OS and compiler options (of which I'm using the default) I can't think of why you had success whereas I didn't. This is my dmesg - are you using the same platform? FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC arm FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) VT: init without driver. CPU: ARM Cortex-A7 r0p5 (ECO: 0x00000000) CPU Features: Multiprocessing, Thumb2, Security, Virtualization, Generic Timer, VMSAv7, PXN, LPAE, Coherent Walk Optional instructions: SDIV/UDIV, UMULL, SMULL, SIMD(ext) LoUU:2 LoC:3 LoUIS:2 Cache level 1: 32KB/64B 4-way data cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc 32KB/32B 2-way instruction cache Read-Alloc Cache level 2: 512KB/64B 8-way unified cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc real memory = 0 (0 MB) avail memory = 957149184 (912 MB) No PSCI/SMCCC call function found FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs Thanks, Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 08:55:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A84E1DD93C for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 08:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay4.cretaforce.gr (relay4.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47W0Wy0zj7z3KxL for ; 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Sun, 8 Dec 2019 10:55:06 +0200 (EET) From: Christos Chatzaras Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3601.0.10\)) Subject: Re: kernel panic Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 10:55:05 +0200 References: <6014CAB6-4827-4D6D-B5DD-A9E901047F69@cretaforce.gr> <6C26CD72-2149-4082-BCAF-C7B846092194@cretaforce.gr> <6A5B8B89-31C5-4AB7-AE35-D48E93D54E66@cretaforce.gr> To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <6A5B8B89-31C5-4AB7-AE35-D48E93D54E66@cretaforce.gr> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47W0Wy0zj7z3KxL X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cretaforce.gr header.s=cretaforce header.b=NHB0OymQ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 195.201.253.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.07 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.147]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-2.97)[ip: (-9.69), ipnet: 195.201.0.0/16(-3.58), asn: 24940(-1.59), country: DE(-0.01)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[147.253.201.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[254.150.64.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:55:11 -0000 > On 8 Dec 2019, at 00:09, Christos Chatzaras = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 7 Dec 2019, at 19:44, HiMyNameIsIlNano wrote: >>=20 >> Il sab 7 dic 2019, 18:25 Christos Chatzaras ha >> scritto: >>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 7 Dec 2019, at 19:01, Daniele Mazzotti = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Il giorno ven 6 dic 2019 alle ore 18:21 Christos Chatzaras < >>>> chris@cretaforce.gr> ha scritto: >>>>=20 >>>>> I upload full core.txt here: >>>>>=20 >>>>> https://we.tl/t-AGwrZJbHYP >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 6 Dec 2019, at 18:39, Christos Chatzaras >>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Today and yesterday I had a server crash. The server runs FreeBSD = 12.1 >>>>> without the last "FreeBSD-SA-19:25.mcepsc" patch. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Today I got this: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: Fatal trap 12: page = fault >>>>> while in kernel mode >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: cpuid =3D 3; apic id = =3D 03 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: fault virtual >>> address#011=3D >>>>> 0xffffffff82fb8f38 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: fault code#011#011=3D >>>>> supervisor read data, page not present >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: instruction = pointer#011=3D >>>>> 0x20:0xffffffff810954b6 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: stack pointer#011 >>> =3D >>>>> 0x0:0xfffffe00c3c9f600 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: frame pointer#011 >>> =3D >>>>> 0x0:0xfffffe00c3c9f6b0 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: code = segment#011#011=3D >>> base >>>>> 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #011#011#011=3D DPL = 0, pres >>>>> 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: processor = eflags#011=3D >>>>> interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: current = process#011#011=3D >>>>> 86140 (nginx) >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: trap number#011#011=3D= 12 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: panic: page fault >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: cpuid =3D 3 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: time =3D 1575649514 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: KDB: stack = backtrace: >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #0 = 0xffffffff80c1d207 at >>>>> kdb_backtrace+0x67 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #1 = 0xffffffff80bd053d at >>>>> vpanic+0x19d >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #2 = 0xffffffff80bd0393 at >>>>> panic+0x43 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #3 = 0xffffffff810a7d2c at >>>>> trap_fatal+0x39c >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #4 = 0xffffffff810a7d79 at >>>>> trap_pfault+0x49 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #5 = 0xffffffff810a736f at >>>>> trap+0x29f >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #6 = 0xffffffff8108132c at >>>>> calltrap+0x8 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #7 = 0xffffffff80f0c340 at >>>>> vm_fault_hold+0x1b90 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #8 = 0xffffffff80f0a760 at >>>>> vm_fault+0x60 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #9 = 0xffffffff810a7e94 at >>>>> trap_pfault+0x164 >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #10 = 0xffffffff810a74fb at >>>>> trap+0x42b >>>>>> Dec 6 18:27:18 server36.example.com kernel: #11 = 0xffffffff8108132c at >>>>> calltrap+0x8 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Do you think it's hardware related? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I do not know if this might be relevant, but these line in your log = file >>>> looks suspicious to me: >>>>=20 >>>> __curthread () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu.h:234 >>>> *234 /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu.h: No such file or directory.* >>>> (kgdb) #0 __curthread () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu.h:234 >>>> #1 doadump (textdump=3D) >>>=20 >>> Why you think this line is suspicious? >>>=20 >>> I was running FreeBSD-12.1-BETA3. I upgrade it today to = FreeBSD-12.1-p1. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >>=20 >> Because it is just a few lines above the kernel panic and it says = that the >> file could not be found. That is why I am asking if that can be a = problem >> or not. >>=20 >> Also, is the problem occurring during boot or after startup or when = exactly? >>=20 >=20 > I fetch /usr/src only for upgrading the system and then I remove it. = That's why it says that it doesn't find this file. >=20 > No the problem didn't occur during boot. I think it happened during a = Nginx restart. Today I had another crash with this server. I will move the HDDs to = other hardware to see if this solves the issue. 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 10:54:38AM +0200, Christos Chatzaras wrote: >> I fetch /usr/src only for upgrading the system and then I remove it. Tha= t's why it says that it doesn't find this file. >> >> No the problem didn't occur during boot. I think it happened during a Ng= inx restart. What exact steps did you follow for upgrading? After building/installing with /usr/src, did you make check-old && make del= ete-old && make delete-old-libs ? When I have encountered similar problems before, I have fixed them by rebuilding all ports *after* (system upgrade + removing old system files + rebooting) --=20 J. --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl3tCfwACgkQs8o7QhFz NAU4AA//SHcudUJl1eAkxZiAYuVy57iCn2AFzl6sA1WjDpJkebkXSaW9Ft8Egwd+ TTKhjhU4JWilCDwM/G4GVfIoneuHw6llSe7N+FkdVCIKMutSDk8P0fa5yWBkYTEZ ebdf2zxAroOXW3ivSrI8acQvGBVv1ptRNMfv1Q53gNVOL0vEIWhuD+jssbrGukFs 2YoGZRKcXG/aLwdHQCSWanJR/+fQNvgBs5U9oXAX7Hb+NX9bm47/+osmH/UybNyZ oZYYUPqc6fCujxP07A+Pp/A9Mcui+JLY5IFl0DeYP4Y+ADNr7zh8qHuVOOj4vxEd BYlfjNUax2FiqUKeTMqdzKzrRj7EZN3AaqZwJO9WwnpnXOqWqZtbfxCqsGUDVP7X tC7ILcorbsTlV+LlfSE3adiV7uECPpkLAv2mGtOyK3Cc0NeDTrt4zBgQwQmM+Uav 2pPDxsh9on2HpGMe0AdCT9rv2K4fPB6VpAz0cf0GY/3wFlCR+39ynS58iQW0KHeC LXARxaglXRXNOUWfs+S6IA/KYLqQaCp75zFRmMqPNiK/yVNFfuoeoZdfP2rMBLb/ OZJqxYPkCUSstsCy2NiTBIrthBFDNRv8rvFZVW/b4TYJLj9bOLFv2yrqEoiBsmQg V+pdzAmVwj9rvmnjmC7MbBpRjK261SaLnzyU1J+HFaOXWyOdiiY= =BaS5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 17:11:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C3D1E9C54 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (mx2.dismail.de [159.69.191.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx2.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WCXj22v9z4QxV for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 778dd314 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 18:11:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 441907d6 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 18:11:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 06683075 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 18:11:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 69a335af (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 18:11:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:11:25 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ipfw for unbound Message-ID: <20191208121125.4ec7e9e8@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WCXj22v9z4QxV X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; IP_SCORE(-2.07)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 159.69.0.0/16(1.16), asn: 24940(-1.59), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:159.69.191.136]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[136.191.69.159.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:11:34 -0000 Hi! I have unbound installed on the single, desktop computer with FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE and settings for DNS over TLS which works. I am runing IPFW firewall and I had(have) in my rules for DNS: cmd 01250 allow udp from any to 84.242.218.68 853 out via $pif keep-state $cmd 01300 allow tcp from any to 84.242.218.68 853 out via $pif setup keep-state In unbound.conf I have 5 different forward-addresses. And in /etc/resolv.conf I have nameserver 127.0.0.1. I thought that $cmd 11027 allow udp from any to me dst-port 853 keep-state $cmd 11028 allow tcp from any to me dst-port 853 setup keep-state will works but it doesn't. Should I allow each address than, please? 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l31sm8801666qte.30.2019.12.08.09.16.23 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47WCfH2STqz1y5Y for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:16:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:16:20 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unable to get Xorg up and running with kde5 Message-ID: <20191208121620.00002fb9@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WCfL1v0Sz4RQb X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=oEBZPwgo; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.32), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.22), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.05)]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[seibercom.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:16:28 -0000 I am unable to get 'xorg" working. I built it and kde5 from the ports meta ports. I don't understand this warning near the end of the log: [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory This is the xorg log file: [ 20880.648] X.Org X Server 1.18.4 Release Date: 2016-07-19 [ 20880.648] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 20880.648] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 [ 20880.648] Current Operating System: FreeBSD scorpio.seibercom.net 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [ 20880.648] Build Date: 05 December 2019 02:53:38PM [ 20880.648] [ 20880.648] Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 [ 20880.648] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 20880.648] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 20880.648] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 8 12:09:45 2019 [ 20880.657] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 20880.681] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 20880.681] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 20880.681] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 20880.681] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 20880.681] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 20880.681] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 20880.681] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 20880.681] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices [ 20880.682] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff [ 20880.769] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/ [ 20880.769] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" [ 20880.769] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure devd or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 20880.769] (II) Loader magic: 0x82a4b0 [ 20880.769] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 20880.769] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 20880.769] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0 [ 20880.769] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1 [ 20880.769] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 [ 20880.769] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3e91:1028:0859 rev 0, Mem @ 0x2ffe000000/16777216, 0x2fa0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 [ 20880.769] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 20880.770] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 20880.942] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 20880.942] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 20880.942] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 [ 20880.942] (==) AIGLX enabled [ 20880.942] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0 [ 20880.942] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1 [ 20880.942] (==) Matched scfb as autoconfigured driver 2 [ 20880.942] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3 [ 20880.942] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [ 20880.942] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [ 20880.942] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [ 20881.005] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 20881.005] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 2.99.917 [ 20881.005] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 20881.005] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 20881.005] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" [ 20881.005] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so [ 20881.006] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 20881.006] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.18.4 [ 20881.006] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 20881.006] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 20881.006] (II) LoadModule: "scfb" [ 20881.006] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/scfb_drv.so [ 20881.024] (II) Module scfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 20881.024] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 0.0.4 [ 20881.024] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 20881.024] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" [ 20881.024] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [ 20881.032] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 20881.032] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 2.4.0 [ 20881.032] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 20881.032] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 20881.032] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43 [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics [ 20881.047] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms [ 20881.047] (II) scfb: driver for wsdisplay framebuffer: scfb [ 20881.047] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 20881.047] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) [ 20881.047] (--) using VT number 9 [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for scfb [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe start [ 20881.180] (II) scfb(1): using default device [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe done [ 20881.180] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 20881.180] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 20881.180] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" [ 20881.180] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 20881.180] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices [ 20881.180] (EE) [ 20881.180] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 20881.180] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. [ 20881.180] (EE) [ 20881.181] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 17:16:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DC61EA21E for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay4.cretaforce.gr (relay4.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WCfx2hlHz4RxD for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp2.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 923771F4C7 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:16:53 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cretaforce.gr; s=cretaforce; t=1575825413; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nIyw6PvcTL5Wsq42GgR66C9zZXJk1XnxFdf6q+kTCWY=; b=Y1IL1wUkzNY2eJF8n3M+OsHHJyPEOmBj93Q1VCVceq1MLYXOYwC+gI7vOK5TmgqvSL8rx9 qxOMWmjUzsSNFwTnQ7WV7edRyTDJBlcl050JO5u50QW4u3b0KRJgK5y3F8nU8vC7lnF9Nr 6WGbZgyxtVNIcJhpK2aoneHn10sjsps= Received: from christoss-air.fritz.box (ppp-94-64-150-254.home.otenet.gr [94.64.150.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CDDC2732E for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:16:53 +0200 (EET) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3601.0.10\)) Subject: Re: kernel panic Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:16:52 +0200 References: <6014CAB6-4827-4D6D-B5DD-A9E901047F69@cretaforce.gr> <6C26CD72-2149-4082-BCAF-C7B846092194@cretaforce.gr> <6A5B8B89-31C5-4AB7-AE35-D48E93D54E66@cretaforce.gr> <20191208143419.GB63749@bastion.zyxst.net> To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20191208143419.GB63749@bastion.zyxst.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WCfx2hlHz4RxD X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cretaforce.gr header.s=cretaforce header.b=Y1IL1wUk; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 195.201.253.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.147]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-2.98)[ip: (-9.72), ipnet: 195.201.0.0/16(-3.59), asn: 24940(-1.59), country: DE(-0.01)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[147.253.201.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[254.150.64.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:16:59 -0000 > On 8 Dec 2019, at 16:34, tech-lists wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 10:54:38AM +0200, Christos Chatzaras wrote: >>> I fetch /usr/src only for upgrading the system and then I remove it. = That's why it says that it doesn't find this file. >>>=20 >>> No the problem didn't occur during boot. I think it happened during = a Nginx restart. >=20 > What exact steps did you follow for upgrading? > After building/installing with /usr/src, did you make check-old && = make delete-old && > make delete-old-libs ? >=20 > When I have encountered similar problems before, I have fixed them by > rebuilding all ports *after* (system upgrade + removing old system = files + > rebooting) > --=20 > J. I use these commands: svnup release cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster -UiF make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old-libs rm -fr /usr/obj/usr /usr/src shutdown -r now I didn't rebuild all ports at the end.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 17:17:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7FD1EA4E4 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter02.peak.org (filter02.peak.org [207.55.16.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WCgq3Dg9z4Smt for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 17:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by filter02.peak.org ({c0e096ac-ab76-477d-8a9d-eab3e47a6d30}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20191208171739939_0000 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:17:39 -0800 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096F59801B for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta01.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xpj2pXMhADRH for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org [207.55.17.95]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD3C9808B for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=elm.localnet) by elm.localnet with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ie0Bd-000NvJ-Gf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:17:37 -0800 Received: (from carlj@localhost) by elm.localnet (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xB8HHafw091964; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 09:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj) From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross-compiling with go for arm on amd64. Possible? References: <20191208082237.GA80246@thismonkey.com> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 09:17:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20191208082237.GA80246@thismonkey.com> (Scott Aitken's message of "Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:22:37 +1100") Message-ID: <86pngybutr.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WCgq3Dg9z4Smt X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=peak.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carlj@peak.org designates 207.55.16.93 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carlj@peak.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[peak.org,none]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[asn: 13868(0.03), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[93.16.55.207.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:207.55.0.0/17, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:17:44 -0000 Scott Aitken writes: >> Scott Aitken writes: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > So I wanted to install dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 on my Raspberry Pi running FreeBSD >> > 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC arm. >> > >> > There's no package version, so I tried compiling. Unfortunately that didn't >> > work as the Go dependency ran out of RAM compiling. And there's no package >> > for Go... >> > >> > So I fired up a VM and installed ports-mgmt/poudriere. Set it all up and >> > added dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 to my shopping list... >> > >> > Unfortunately it skipped lang/go: >> > >> > Code: >> > [00:01:14] [01] [00:00:00] Building lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 >> > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Finished lang/go | go-1.13.4,1: Ignored: fails to >> > build with qemu-user-static >> > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Skipping dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 | >> > dnscrypt-proxy2-2.0.31_1: Dependent port lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 ignored >> > >> > Apparently Go 1.3 won't compile under the emulator (see PR 221297 for some >> > background. >> > >> > Is it possible for go to cross-compile for arm on amd64? >> >> I don't know about cross-compiling, but I have built go from source on a >> Raspberry Pi 2. In my case I was running 12.1-RELEASE, and I built >> go-1.13.1,1 about 2 weeks ago. My typescript file doesn't show any >> errors, and time showed a 28 minute build time and another 15 minutes to >> create a binary package. That was after installing the go14 binary >> package. >> >> -- >> Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org >> > Hi Carl, > > I had no luck as I said. I killed every daemon I could and simply saw the > memory in top approach zero after about 3 minutes into the build, and then > the core dump. > > Other than OS and compiler options (of which I'm using the default) I can't > think of why you had success whereas I didn't. > > This is my dmesg - are you using the same platform? > > FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC arm > FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) > VT: init without driver. > CPU: ARM Cortex-A7 r0p5 (ECO: 0x00000000) > CPU Features: > Multiprocessing, Thumb2, Security, Virtualization, Generic Timer, VMSAv7, > PXN, LPAE, Coherent Walk > Optional instructions: > SDIV/UDIV, UMULL, SMULL, SIMD(ext) > LoUU:2 LoC:3 LoUIS:2 > Cache level 1: > 32KB/64B 4-way data cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc > 32KB/32B 2-way instruction cache Read-Alloc > Cache level 2: > 512KB/64B 8-way unified cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc > real memory = 0 (0 MB) > avail memory = 957149184 (912 MB) > No PSCI/SMCCC call function found > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs I am running 12.1-RELEASE instead of the 12.0-RELEASE that you are running, so that used LLVM 8.0.1 instead of LLVM 6.0.1, but otherwise my dmesg is the same. I had actually used pkg to install go14 instead of building it, and my understanding is that go builds using go14. The other possibility I can think of is that maybe you are using -j4 or similar with make, but I didn't. You might want to try an explicit -j1 when building go to see if that works. I just realized that I had about 1.8GB of swap, so you might need to setup a swap file or partition. I doubt that I used anything close to that 1.8GB, but I never looked to see how much. I hope that helps. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 19:39:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC7C1EEEBE for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WGqY2BXVz3HfH for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id a15so13599591wrf.9 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:39:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zfkKAd3rI6798QVZgvHpWaJjKIlfMhXu/ernIuivDvk=; b=nBdAz4KR/8yBYUAy+2xJJkzfVOljYqSKXmsqUYF5ELCRRA3MCPgtskV0ih0xSBP9wv XDR7R0ldBj948nrbwgZwkJcDeA1PrNYolu0cwG92vq7H7vMqujar3N9pPHVhiFytjkoZ 8eKk+5If8VhDlU2am7W8tOdqgGpqfm/Hx8ZP4bDGvCC/X9Xdn8fc95jJiM5j5qwmMXfx DOjziKoLtwyL1wmbJwK5Lb9OUA16G0giW3+OZvQGQThXHAVgnRa+UF8dCqV1HWiZ2HJI +TqruyaD3VIdK2MaZNogvlfey4mxnd6tYffGfKPG5LkCz3rKSLVpCjFEeYyCtDDtgiwX mXTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=zfkKAd3rI6798QVZgvHpWaJjKIlfMhXu/ernIuivDvk=; b=q8HPLS2mMafcKtI6nk/vwC6GCb4WKXNt3RhxwObOIrnQCmmCBUGMk/2xBRPEfcaQjR p1ghWqDCXsVvSHspgPHEdmjW504NGTVHv5FCDh7iXjJS2aWpB4tT6IklxPmlayrMzg+t Dnxryh/G/r7T+UPjxGrabaQ773HvQ5iQkVeSK9p4I+XXN1WbGuc4gDSD4UITpRqQAxfX 8qMFAKAwJ3gV/xNJBS0yH4M3FvyFZHZxgh/5kphfdb+Dx0y7ZCmHgYUXEKTw2MKyDdba HrovB9+1OdZmeXeDMt8TqnHiv7/W8HtPpDmQajE1uJb8GUWp6tXhhmodB5OAuiPtDbHx WVfw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU3Y/ZZuaJByAhbLTaW9i0M4vGjeuPxE7STN1fgi00QIK8NMWuZ CoHdL6ReT90klNW8ZOUrdazhWtfDewd+bA2k78gI X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxVOs1af6HBH9Tczs9cj1fyuWg/6ttmMxoKB7QtDrxWk/J+6Tvld+EQUWomVlrnt7kT7EDYriudU03iPJDHhzs= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6ac2:: with SMTP id u2mr27706724wrw.233.1575833973742; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:39:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191208121620.00002fb9@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20191208121620.00002fb9@seibercom.net> From: HiMyNameIsIlNano Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unable to get Xorg up and running with kde5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WGqY2BXVz3HfH X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 19:39:37 -0000 Il dom 8 dic 2019, 18:16 Jerry ha scritto: > I am unable to get 'xorg" working. I built it and kde5 from the ports > meta ports. I don't understand this warning near the end of the > log: [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > > This is the xorg log file: > > [ 20880.648] > X.Org X Server 1.18.4 > Release Date: 2016-07-19 > [ 20880.648] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > [ 20880.648] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 > [ 20880.648] Current Operating System: FreeBSD scorpio.seibercom.net > 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [ 20880.648] Build Date: 05 December 2019 02:53:38PM > [ 20880.648] > [ 20880.648] Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 > [ 20880.648] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > [ 20880.648] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default > setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > [ 20880.648] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 8 > 12:09:45 2019 > [ 20880.657] (==) Using system config directory > "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" > [ 20880.681] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. > [ 20880.681] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. > [ 20880.681] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) > [ 20880.681] (**) | |-->Monitor "" > [ 20880.681] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". > Using a default monitor configuration. > [ 20880.681] (==) Automatically adding devices > [ 20880.681] (==) Automatically enabling devices > [ 20880.681] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices > [ 20880.682] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff > [ 20880.769] (==) FontPath set to: > /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/, > /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/, > /usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/, > /usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/, > /usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/ > [ 20880.769] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > [ 20880.769] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list of input > devices. > If no devices become available, reconfigure devd or disable > AutoAddDevices. > [ 20880.769] (II) Loader magic: 0x82a4b0 > [ 20880.769] (II) Module ABI versions: > [ 20880.769] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > [ 20880.769] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0 > [ 20880.769] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1 > [ 20880.769] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 > [ 20880.769] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3e91:1028:0859 rev 0, Mem @ > 0x2ffe000000/16777216, 0x2fa0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64, BIOS @ > 0x????????/65536 > [ 20880.769] (II) LoadModule: "glx" > [ 20880.770] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so > [ 20880.942] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 20880.942] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 > [ 20880.942] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 > [ 20880.942] (==) AIGLX enabled > [ 20880.942] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0 > [ 20880.942] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1 > [ 20880.942] (==) Matched scfb as autoconfigured driver 2 > [ 20880.942] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3 > [ 20880.942] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout > [ 20880.942] (II) LoadModule: "intel" > [ 20880.942] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so > [ 20881.005] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 20881.005] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 2.99.917 > [ 20881.005] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 20881.005] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [ 20881.005] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" > [ 20881.005] (II) Loading > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so > [ 20881.006] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 20881.006] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.18.4 > [ 20881.006] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 20881.006] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [ 20881.006] (II) LoadModule: "scfb" > [ 20881.006] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/scfb_drv.so > [ 20881.024] (II) Module scfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 20881.024] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 0.0.4 > [ 20881.024] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [ 20881.024] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" > [ 20881.024] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so > [ 20881.032] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 20881.032] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 2.4.0 > [ 20881.032] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 20881.032] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [ 20881.032] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: > i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, > 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, > Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, > Q33, > GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43 > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics > [ 20881.047] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms > [ 20881.047] (II) scfb: driver for wsdisplay framebuffer: scfb > [ 20881.047] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa > [ 20881.047] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > [ 20881.047] (--) using VT number 9 > > [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting > [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for scfb > [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe start > [ 20881.180] (II) scfb(1): using default device > [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe done > [ 20881.180] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card > support > [ 20881.180] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. > [ 20881.180] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" > [ 20881.180] (EE) > Fatal server error: > [ 20881.180] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs > for all framebuffer devices > [ 20881.180] (EE) > [ 20881.180] (EE) > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > [ 20881.180] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" > for additional information. > [ 20881.180] (EE) > [ 20881.181] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, have you loaded the correct driver for your video card? It looks as if you have an Intel card, is my assumption correct? > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 19:50:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06D61EF366 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WH4H4JL2z3J4G for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.204]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M8yso-1ihs470b26-0067Ej for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 20:50:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:50:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get Xorg up and running with kde5 Message-Id: <20191208205028.23b786a9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191208121620.00002fb9@seibercom.net> References: <20191208121620.00002fb9@seibercom.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:254J99EoquIUuenOStEm9FakecIPvguPzD7/5kxlj8w9jFoPH+h xPPEYV3ziKJTlloHqqZ6powoawnW3/Py+fNzco0nfZMkL59xUwYPqldyUw1zUK/ebiv50TP WZ1ZoUIQLxactsh7LP3FmFxbQ0iOZVpxNiroBrIbzV0mmDwNOthkDrZkCnJOjAgv3AbmnKh yLsJjFCT04DgvYqDMRBbA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:aw/oNy/zBns=:MX8i8TIEHXUI3mfii6bW5H Q1fxVYRgnrwt8XEYl1eF3tVa3W9NjGx4Q/mxNHupERzMrO979KPEqBZR/3PAaWnsuz+G+87n1 2g0B2jcFFCMUnU6FamakT4vJfo21S4f17tkXH3Jg7LlL+NeijzTdVgaSmtphkyfZrRKc0zI7c eDZOBUvfICWpnH2J4VDWlF4+foH8gXKspVTsCk/KE7pHs6/yC8ozBixumxbQjQw8R398z1YCh s5rupXYY/jaYZ+VXned2LwS4scK8cJEfZDz3sp8SjXFDaC3kaRfI6R3adU/asYmhSRkntd44J Kt1k7o6vDd9+br7s6uW15MMASKej0FPDhQ/dL6a0Wk3RH4QbFFg1xvNVO6GbaC8UAUjkDd70v nr2YpxByd2l7A9rDMWSYWktuGucCYj8/3ba08yCKWXaqpb5W/s33sPeS8V/fQoSCcRXOQe6Pv kvuGsBY2DiqC66Zafic3jb/QDNU3YkKdzyFuLMAt3xW5Prkb6yfKXSPGByil08po1ra/ols9u 3z9lJ7UJrGap0YvLN1CYgNYoL1jiplEki7CRgA3uCH6UpDF97yj3+CRFTGSyTJn+Xeh/RWBKR tqVOUDCzxp32EyH8kVanZFk0I8T5cFnRfJQXpo6APLj++kw0yV4i7DcZbvxv+wnDNtPOyk7fJ RTPMn6u5S05hRHKxeR+DMhtHyLny76e/JBk6RK+TCjDUfy0S2BzUi9QZ8ghj/0QAZgu9jHUmA 52zXiVKR0nxdWQ6kM0OHGdpZkkA90V59kg4qQ4SwDy0HaOiSVtW0vFTmWdaW56LFC4mCkECqE 0TsvlrTKpdMBm4I/NHLm1qSBfvH2h8EAvpNdupgO6RLw7RHlkb87g18lttxsiUcm4QY1vMcU3 WZSpXYt6qeKnQy9Wx63g== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WH4H4JL2z3J4G X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 19:50:39 -0000 On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:16:20 -0500, Jerry wrote: > I am unable to get 'xorg" working. I built it and kde5 from the ports > meta ports. I don't understand this warning near the end of the > log: [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > > This is the xorg log file: > > [...] > [ 20881.032] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: > i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, > 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, > Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, > GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43 > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics > [ 20881.047] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics > [...] > [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting > [ 20881.180] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [ 20881.180] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for scfb > [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe start > [ 20881.180] (II) scfb(1): using default device > [ 20881.180] scfb trace: probe done > [ 20881.180] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support > [ 20881.180] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. > [ 20881.180] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" > [ 20881.180] (EE) > Fatal server error: > [ 20881.180] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices > [ 20881.180] (EE) > [ 20881.180] (EE) > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > [ 20881.180] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. > [ 20881.180] (EE) > [ 20881.181] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. It seems you're missing something in your installation. Check the output of "kldstat" if the Intel graphics kernel module and the DRM module have been loaded. You could try to use the "drm-kmod" port (see instructions of the current fashion of loading the module). Also check if your user is a member of the "video" group; however this should be the next step when you get the "permission denied" error message. ;-) Sadly the documentation doesn't seem to be fully up to date, so refering you to the graphics Wiki probably won't be very helpful at the moment. As it seems you're using Intel graphics, this should be relevant: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#Intel_Integrated_Graphics_.28aka_HD_Graphics.29 There's also a "drm-next-kmod", I'm not fully sure where it is supposed to fit into. Information: https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 20:12:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD56F1EFAA4 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay112.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay112.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign RSA OV SSL CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WHY72wWSz3Jtc for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) IronPort-SDR: V0/NPXz+xMo0Fab5Hfskbxh+k/bpbJemReSsbnkeM1GeZqlLqinD6QFqowXrYA195ax0TL5DzE i6VdsxYEzLPIOTn882hqPD/kNmK9ep9XYDH7O/oSUtmJroWDVvsxWYHCnyvKUeaGG2vXW9Lu5s Fn8iwLaM+9W6T75vex0Kzm9PmWF7LATlD1txtmRbIsgEwQ7KZivBHFw1exdBK+JEg6wK4b90ep B68LxcFqkCF22iKMVnfd+uY2k9amqn4Q0PHz6wBK9bB+nOtHUl6ZI8x4HVaJ+FNeVMvLSlnSHr tpA= X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AqCwDrWO1d/1tL8lFlHAEBAQEBBwE?= =?us-ascii?q?BEQEEBAEBgX6CIFloIBIqg3WJA4YVAYIQNQGIAIIgjnGBZwkBAQIBAQEBATc?= =?us-ascii?q?BAYRAAoISJzgTAgMBAQsBAQUBAQEBAQUEbYRrWIVTAQUjMzMLGAICBSECAg9?= =?us-ascii?q?IBgEShh6raIEyhU+DdYEQgQ4ojDKCAIQkPoQWARIBH4MQgl4EjSuLCJYmgji?= =?us-ascii?q?VWieaMo5KnDwiZ3FNMAiDJ1ARFJstQAMwjQ+CMgEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AqCwDrWO1d/1tL8lFlHAEBAQEBBwEBEQEEBAEBgX6CI?= =?us-ascii?q?FloIBIqg3WJA4YVAYIQNQGIAIIgjnGBZwkBAQIBAQEBATcBAYRAAoISJzgTA?= =?us-ascii?q?gMBAQsBAQUBAQEBAQUEbYRrWIVTAQUjMzMLGAICBSECAg9IBgEShh6raIEyh?= =?us-ascii?q?U+DdYEQgQ4ojDKCAIQkPoQWARIBH4MQgl4EjSuLCJYmgjiVWieaMo5KnDwiZ?= =?us-ascii?q?3FNMAiDJ1ARFJstQAMwjQ+CMgEB?= Received: from 91.75-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.242.75.91]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2019 21:12:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xB8KC36J005011; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 21:12:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 21:12:02 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VMSzbA==?= Coosemans To: Jacques Foucry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12-1-RELEASE Cups and Lexmark printer Message-ID: <20191208211202.1ddde630@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20191204082535.GD61479@foucry.net> References: <20191120075200.GB1795@foucry.net> <20191120095313.3adc6452@FreeBSD.org> <20191204082535.GD61479@foucry.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WHY72wWSz3Jtc X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.92 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5432, ipnet:195.238.0.0/19, country:BE]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.951,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 20:12:11 -0000 On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:25:35 +0100 Jacques Foucry wrote: > Le mercredi 20 nov. 2019 =C3=A0 09:53:13 (+0100), T=C4=B3l Coosemans =C3= =A0 =C3=A9crit: >> Try installing cups-filters. =20 > =20 > This solve a part of my issue. Thanks. >=20 > Now I can print with the generic PPD. The lexmark always failed with a fa= ilter > failed" error. Nothing more in the logs :-( >=20 > That annoying because I can't, with the generic PPD, use the recto-verso > capability of my printer. I noticed in your original email you talked about /usr/lib/cups. The locations on FreeBSD are /usr/local/libexec/cups and /usr/local/share/cups. If the Lexmark driver is made for Linux and installs under /usr, maybe you need to move the files to the FreeBSD locations. If there are references to /usr/lib/cups in the PPD files you have to change those too. If some of the driver files are Linux programs you may also need to enable Linux compatibility (linux_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf) and install the linux-c7-cups-libs package. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 8 20:20:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3D61EFD5F for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com (mail-wm1-x32b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WHkr2kFYz3KBB for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id b11so13215125wmj.4 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:20:36 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=GgSwk536Pj51wAbuPNFcWweRHpbg3nf3V3aKRGTBMyE=; b=dCZa1HwVS07daM7YB6P/80wlMCz3x+5BvFSyjuhW6Aqf87A159yZkisMS+M2jVt75G FB5zCvF++IVV3ojzbSMABDy6awt5oa0annKlHv0bsjvNccb1cx7ydqXhk1d5GZStRjkq zC8VOmLIbY5peLsInHV2SP1v3/NsceVt5h/1k6VtjIBJA2ucvrSBe8H5A5VhM0aHTqZv m2gTsyUduiK5QEuuUL5etT+Q6onYlDumqgZfz+fK7ZuYQZ8eYGGlSJB+vMkTqFiPWTKP EPxxz+24Q9IVerZfVEMiYExpePQhJN/DouNpXJWA42Q43gPOkRKaCh28vtd5h7YRfYMY 64uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVEe2bQokeeIQTasfReBE1mEY8/Iw9HR+FA9a9DX49xn2NdskW2 g17I5cPJUCZ8rNk3achOZSewk9MM X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyxcFSY1OBTOIR3mMkHM24adSIgBV/TOJBgr+y8e1NAjbpGiKitFkira/NAell3vLsis27r+A== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7d93:: with SMTP id y141mr21610571wmc.111.1575836433981; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.14] ([90.255.50.175]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z64sm11728017wmg.30.2019.12.08.12.20.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:20:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Either VPN method or Radius Method To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Dave B Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 20:20:32 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WHkr2kFYz3KBB X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.12), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.68), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2019 20:20:37 -0000 I have had with my Telco overchanrging us for IP traffic! I am now planning to use their fibre to either connect to my LAN . Option 1) OpenVPN - USing Virtual Private Network to bypass the telco's data charges and uses our services via tunnelling. 2) Using Radius. I have a computone for my ancient modem pool using radius. I wish to Use Radius as a service again to bypass the telcos. I have freeradius on one server and gnu radius on the other. Pointers needed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi. You need to find out how they meter your IP traffic. If as most do, it's literally a packet (or byte) count, then a VPN won't help, well not much, unless you can successfully compress the data without loosing anything.  All they'll see (hopefully) of the VPN traffic, is bursts of random noise, but the byte count could be higher, while the packet count might be similar.  But, they will still be able to bill you for metered traffic. If it's connection time based, then again, little chance of reducing costs, as I'd expect there to be a flat per connection charge, + time connected type of thing, unless as many mobile carriers do, a "per second" billing scheme on connections (call's.)  But "data" billing is usually on a byte count scheme. Maybe find a lower cost carrier?  If that option is open to you. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 9 05:46:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73531CD64C for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 05:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WXHB6bNSz4Gpg; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 05:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.102.197]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MD9nd-1iV9K64BXN-0095Sa; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 06:45:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 06:45:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?B?VMSzbA==?= Coosemans Cc: Jacques Foucry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12-1-RELEASE Cups and Lexmark printer Message-Id: <20191209064544.f289c225.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191208211202.1ddde630@FreeBSD.org> References: <20191120075200.GB1795@foucry.net> <20191120095313.3adc6452@FreeBSD.org> <20191204082535.GD61479@foucry.net> <20191208211202.1ddde630@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IptPtbzqCd8eWCIJYz9DZl6TpwbsmitSfiSgjSodXtYKptNhhGK 6C+nZeMCxCLj1s90AQlIfMELZQqfGVOMIyMW9Qc6lo8Ors0Il7cXKVZ+zKBhJwxVEPd2SGo Tppys0kpYANFzZLNbgOkSZuA55dEr64Ta8jiKw6jYYrlEJuVnXAGHW0V2fbAZqjFm9bhAHU W/2NrdapymS1HESMv4p9w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ee7DM/BiJ9g=:5s64e3oIP0qqHRF7xyf4Nj VJcabpXnJS/SzzBpzH4AHqXCOOeBEtCJO5SQqzdLbxd60SIKk6Huq+vfVHb91ZjCmqcT69jEA 4pAO1mMOkpcUF7l6HXXUf2ozWcBch+S2KuUAYj5HEzRBmHTMWtbpOxb0FmtjfFy8SVWhD3Xaw 5BvHrMEZHd8vsW9n1190/onkke3BiFDQI7cf9lbZNHx+tUs/XyTLK/gSjiWWOxX5RD+PeXf3n 1kdMPtz9ouN0QxbD7HYdSacl8NREUcEimGSGgex2/4gym3moo71xAi05QTWe3V1T++aERysc0 7oMuUF7tndpzhikb2xsoh3zAZi/oDqxUvymMrhgVzaXHqPb8pyW2BFxonJ2O4QHFpYEu2Gls1 rh+qfknfOpyZt43Z+FzmGnwSEQ00PlcjrjTWNV77K3+c+fApSMZYjk3MaluJQpJKK6Yqtpi5k 3H/H5kE7Ax8N4eqKYpKOGJpzrDYtsPyDVNG8W/GowQUEnz1mRKS/hqwVs+od5mMwv3De48qhi wVYtqC0bkuwKNhLHCnbIKAnxhIgyS3UNNnoVuELMFjgi+iBqiKjUf1JFQWegEqx8ln8JPYDfK PtE+KJ4GpNS0dnTvNQbGoZMiSK0zm2yNUODcGab2tT+LadPuQ7hFIotnj06OzaXy3s2RciwRV 2MOwzTVm1qCGmdQZ3wl+fbSo28lyyFrouiGhU67tEIEeU5g3TOR43luDEQLNxOwB02o/QRa+8 AjmxlnHdXqoClWByx1IOE64jNV5EsJBqcC646i9JrpgvGq/ZmjomUD78VMfcez2FERWy0U17+ ahOxRBj541MnylLUODEGaJBw7RXkEP7XrgniEX4alzzJhhjPQqT436fyCqvq1yeCzZsCFkDQa ZvsbehpS97oTasNCuI0A== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WXHB6bNSz4Gpg X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.135) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.64 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.33)[ip: (0.57), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.16), asn: 8560(2.28), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.102.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.940,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.964,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 05:46:00 -0000 On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 21:12:02 +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:25:35 +0100 Jacques Foucry > wrote: > > Le mercredi 20 nov. 2019 à 09:53:13 (+0100), Tijl Coosemans à écrit: > >> Try installing cups-filters. > > > > This solve a part of my issue. Thanks. > > > > Now I can print with the generic PPD. The lexmark always failed with a failter > > failed" error. Nothing more in the logs :-( > > > > That annoying because I can't, with the generic PPD, use the recto-verso > > capability of my printer. > > I noticed in your original email you talked about /usr/lib/cups. The > locations on FreeBSD are /usr/local/libexec/cups and > /usr/local/share/cups. If the Lexmark driver is made for Linux and > installs under /usr, maybe you need to move the files to the FreeBSD > locations. If there are references to /usr/lib/cups in the PPD files > you have to change those too. If some of the driver files are Linux > programs you may also need to enable Linux compatibility > (linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf) and install the linux-c7-cups-libs > package. It shouldn't be required to run Linux CUPS components unless the driver doesn't just include a PPD, but also programs, i. e., binaries for Linux. If it's just a matter of accessing the duplexing facility of the printer, that's probably something the PPD can achieve on its own. Everything else you mentioned, especially the FreeBSD-specific locations (everything non-OS, including CUPS, belongs to the /usr/local subtree), is fully correct. Many years ago, I also had a Lexmark printer that came with a PPD file intended for Linux ("Linux driver package"), but simply adding that (!) PPD using the CUPS web interface made the printer work as expected. I did _not_ install anything from the Linux driver, just extracted it, and used the PPD file. Maybe this is possible here, too? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 9 14:34:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E49A1D8254 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 14:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from mail-01.thismonkey.com (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thismonkey.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Wm1D64skz3CKh for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 14:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) X-TM-Via-MX: mail-01.thismonkey.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thismonkey.com; s=dkim; t=1575902060; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vhUZ0GKLZvSJwMUiR/bMXvTDLVKvQsGDiIczfMnW8Zs=; b=nYb2TJFCFjxrADXzxrAqp/pPInAVNxB6cMxR6Yvs7K4LGccXUtxt4/zLLgJZbnfm0C57Pt hLUr22z33waSqRl+BQ5htSsuzMsrHC+439eyK+BrPxXLw5DhrHBcJPbubpfik0bzC3OKnP Ldxijin5yj9gBlPdCjxYW8F2wraHfJQ= Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (utility-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6601:0:0:a01:120]) by mail-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xB9EYGOB074871 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xB9EYGZx030372 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xB9EYFP9030346 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:15 +1100 From: Scott Aitken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 809, Issue 1 Message-ID: <20191209143415.GA22252@thismonkey.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at mail-01.thismonkey.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602:0:0:a01:232]); Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:23 +1100 (EST) for IP:'2406:3400:35e:6601::a01:120' DOMAIN:'utility-01.thismonkey.com' HELO:'utility-01.thismonkey.com' FROM:'freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com' RCPT:'' SPF:' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602:0:0:a01:232]); Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:23 +1100 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Wm1D64skz3CKh X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=thismonkey.com header.s=dkim header.b=nYb2TJFC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=thismonkey.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com designates 2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.60)[asn: 10143(2.99), country: AU(0.01)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[thismonkey.com:~]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[thismonkey.com,none]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[thismonkey.com:s=dkim]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10143, ipnet:2406:3400:300::/40, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:34:46 -0000 > Scott Aitken writes: > > >> Scott Aitken writes: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > So I wanted to install dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 on my Raspberry Pi running FreeBSD > >> > 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC arm. > >> > > >> > There's no package version, so I tried compiling. Unfortunately that didn't > >> > work as the Go dependency ran out of RAM compiling. And there's no package > >> > for Go... > >> > > >> > So I fired up a VM and installed ports-mgmt/poudriere. Set it all up and > >> > added dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 to my shopping list... > >> > > >> > Unfortunately it skipped lang/go: > >> > > >> > Code: > >> > [00:01:14] [01] [00:00:00] Building lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 > >> > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Finished lang/go | go-1.13.4,1: Ignored: fails to > >> > build with qemu-user-static > >> > [00:01:16] [01] [00:00:02] Skipping dns/dnscrypt-proxy2 | > >> > dnscrypt-proxy2-2.0.31_1: Dependent port lang/go | go-1.13.4,1 ignored > >> > > >> > Apparently Go 1.3 won't compile under the emulator (see PR 221297 for some > >> > background. > >> > > >> > Is it possible for go to cross-compile for arm on amd64? > >> > >> I don't know about cross-compiling, but I have built go from source on a > >> Raspberry Pi 2. In my case I was running 12.1-RELEASE, and I built > >> go-1.13.1,1 about 2 weeks ago. My typescript file doesn't show any > >> errors, and time showed a 28 minute build time and another 15 minutes to > >> create a binary package. That was after installing the go14 binary > >> package. > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org > >> > > Hi Carl, > > > > I had no luck as I said. I killed every daemon I could and simply saw the > > memory in top approach zero after about 3 minutes into the build, and then > > the core dump. > > > > Other than OS and compiler options (of which I'm using the default) I can't > > think of why you had success whereas I didn't. > > > > This is my dmesg - are you using the same platform? > > > > FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC arm > > FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) > > VT: init without driver. > > CPU: ARM Cortex-A7 r0p5 (ECO: 0x00000000) > > CPU Features: > > Multiprocessing, Thumb2, Security, Virtualization, Generic Timer, VMSAv7, > > PXN, LPAE, Coherent Walk > > Optional instructions: > > SDIV/UDIV, UMULL, SMULL, SIMD(ext) > > LoUU:2 LoC:3 LoUIS:2 > > Cache level 1: > > 32KB/64B 4-way data cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc > > 32KB/32B 2-way instruction cache Read-Alloc > > Cache level 2: > > 512KB/64B 8-way unified cache WB Read-Alloc Write-Alloc > > real memory = 0 (0 MB) > > avail memory = 957149184 (912 MB) > > No PSCI/SMCCC call function found > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > > I am running 12.1-RELEASE instead of the 12.0-RELEASE that you are > running, so that used LLVM 8.0.1 instead of LLVM 6.0.1, but otherwise my > dmesg is the same. I had actually used pkg to install go14 instead of > building it, and my understanding is that go builds using go14. The > other possibility I can think of is that maybe you are using -j4 or > similar with make, but I didn't. You might want to try an explicit -j1 > when building go to see if that works. > > I just realized that I had about 1.8GB of swap, so you might need to > setup a swap file or partition. I doubt that I used anything close to > that 1.8GB, but I never looked to see how much. > > I hope that helps. > -- > Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org Unfortunately I'm using an SD image from the FreeBSD website which doesn't have a swap partition, and then chews up any free space with 'growfs' on first boot. (Something to remember for next time - add swap before growfs runs). So I don't have any swap. I had forgotten about that when I first posted. (I could plug in a USB stick for swap). Still if anyone has had success in cross-compiling in Go for arm I'd I'd love to know. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 9 16:05:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9F01D9EA4 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 16:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Wp2T1jVpz3J9X for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1575907553; x=1578499553; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=eI2EIpGbM/dFEQiw0lOd8kZ5N27EjDd54HJ9au4ylc8=; b=T4oEVCP18B23WJxxml2TbGGA7eOfsHSK8KSXPMcN5NIYrV/kaal5go6LyiDz+66PM6gouXnd7jjqU1ZWvjMfwlJs9TdnDpZFlx11J6EJ5aAZw/U3OKjm+bZF/XjMpUde62slq8zyTfInzuwe0QG0eBdhv7ZrdE2Mu2p/4xQZ1KY= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xY2IwMDAwMDBkMTNjMDEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:05:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:05:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLXe-0008kn-J2; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:05:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 16:05:46 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Scott Aitken Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 809, Issue 1 Message-Id: <20191209160546.1f33d5b57494b0e2a4ffc568@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20191209143415.GA22252@thismonkey.com> References: <20191209143415.GA22252@thismonkey.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Wp2T1jVpz3J9X X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=T4oEVCP1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (-0.38), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.72), asn: 7381(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:05:54 -0000 On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:15 +1100 Scott Aitken wrote: > Unfortunately I'm using an SD image from the FreeBSD website which > doesn't have a swap partition, and then chews up any free space with > 'growfs' on first boot. (Something to remember for next time - add swap > before growfs runs). Do you have some kind of USB device (SSD preferably) that you could plug in and set up swap to ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 9 17:02:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DCF1DADF6 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter02.peak.org (filter02.peak.org [207.55.16.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47WqHz2Pvhz3Lc4 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by filter02.peak.org ({c0e096ac-ab76-477d-8a9d-eab3e47a6d30}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20191209170230066_0000 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 09:02:30 -0800 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8AB98212 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta01.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id WQi1FhowOqts for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailproxy-lb-01.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-01.peak.org [207.55.17.91]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E497982C4 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=elm.localnet) by elm.localnet with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ieMQT-000PJd-4l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 09:02:25 -0800 Received: (from carlj@localhost) by elm.localnet (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xB9H2OCN097316; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 09:02:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj) From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 809, Issue 1 References: <20191209143415.GA22252@thismonkey.com> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 09:02:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20191209143415.GA22252@thismonkey.com> (Scott Aitken's message of "Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:34:15 +1100") Message-ID: <865zipbffj.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47WqHz2Pvhz3Lc4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=peak.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carlj@peak.org designates 207.55.16.93 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carlj@peak.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[asn: 13868(0.02), country: US(-0.05)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[peak.org,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[93.16.55.207.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:207.55.0.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:02:41 -0000 Scott Aitken writes: > Unfortunately I'm using an SD image from the FreeBSD website which doesn't > have a swap partition, and then chews up any free space with 'growfs' on > first boot. (Something to remember for next time - add swap before growfs > runs). > > So I don't have any swap. I had forgotten about that when I first posted. > (I could plug in a USB stick for swap). > > Still if anyone has had success in cross-compiling in Go for arm I'd I'd love > to know. I had set up a swap partition after I used dd to put the image on the card, and before I booted the image. You can use a USB device, or you can just try a swapfile[1]. I just tested the following sequence: #-------------- Start code snip dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1m count=200 echo 'md none swap sw,late,file=/var/swapfile 0 0' >>/etc/fstab swapon -aL #-------------- End code snip That will give you 200MB on a swapfile, which I think will be enough. You can try more if you want, but a swap partition would probably be better. [1] - The handbook also shows how to create a swapfile at: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 10 15:23:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64761DC125 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from mail-01.thismonkey.com (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6602::a01:232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thismonkey.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47XP3K5xFPz3Gfl for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) X-TM-Via-MX: mail-01.thismonkey.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thismonkey.com; s=dkim; t=1575991406; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=p6P3QtC6Wo2wiaW2aeSoyUksb/P0TNyPX/GbJo7jVFE=; b=cCe07h6xmAoowLEW9nXsppNOROQUypDQ2o9f96v1E7BIi4Twzvl4sU5EroiKv8KxFGiSuS /SMAnLzQOsnFQF7qJI4c1IcW4V2ATp20Ds/Pf2bfqc/4L2WxAwNfWdkysmixdfZefSc0it ZTvCll3H2wv8QYBSYDhAK95o1exkh6M= Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (utility-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2406:3400:35e:6601:0:0:a01:120]) by mail-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBAFNO3T064816 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:23:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: from utility-01.thismonkey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBAFNOWf076118 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:23:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by utility-01.thismonkey.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xBAFNN6a076117 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:23:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-lists-5@thismonkey.com) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:23:23 +1100 From: Scott Aitken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross-compiling with go for arm on amd64. Possible? 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(Something to remember for next time - add swap before growfs > > runs). > > > > So I don't have any swap. I had forgotten about that when I first posted. > > (I could plug in a USB stick for swap). > > > > Still if anyone has had success in cross-compiling in Go for arm I'd I'd love > > to know. > > I had set up a swap partition after I used dd to put the image on the > card, and before I booted the image. You can use a USB device, or you > can just try a swapfile[1]. I just tested the following sequence: > > #-------------- Start code snip > dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1m count=200 > echo 'md none swap sw,late,file=/var/swapfile 0 0' >>/etc/fstab > swapon -aL > #-------------- End code snip > > That will give you 200MB on a swapfile, which I think will be enough. > You can try more if you want, but a swap partition would probably be > better. > > [1] - The handbook also shows how to create a swapfile at: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html > > -- > Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org > Great idea Carl, rather than the dd I did: # truncate -s 512M /var/swapfile # ls -als /var/swapfile 96 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 536870912 Dec 11 02:08 /var/swapfile The fstab info was very helpful, thanks. I've now got a 512M swapfile. I think way back in my original post I said that I'd downloaded a pre-built binary for the Pi on the dnscrypt2 github site so I don't need to build go any more (at least not at the moment). But I'm sure the swapfile will save my bacon in the future. Many thanks for your help, Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 10 15:25:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A284D1DC331 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47XP5T03L7z3Gnw for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id t129so11711015qke.10 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:25:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZnFzujdoX8pXxoug/Cn2IF7/lHseYULwbwtyt8pUdk4=; b=imxq/+oGl3YusqmYjXZJ3+prGGaKPpWVQaAXI/fYq1EkaKaAYoj8ZUJviDYHejWpNE dLYTF9931pmPQgG3f9qbDphka6KOPBk9+gKdqko/PCBODO57UWtFdRHmG4Q6Kq4EnkBV 9FXfU2B+3tAVAQXQbQrHIOrEaDl+BmQ/0n43I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZnFzujdoX8pXxoug/Cn2IF7/lHseYULwbwtyt8pUdk4=; b=RTQHzOq6y707CqlZCZ6ZvY+1eh9DRPeekvX1YRrblRy2lsnRb+SXIJdtY0zyPumXOZ 8INeNnjYsSuIliGwWykOLqezbSrmqqJYbDrgirxieO3iYr6HtJqdjOiU6pMIjFW0AH8w ifkB+3S7iUbjj8HGYfRvsg4HeUeQw00z0qm4ya+3Azz/bWPkFw9hx3yHZnSljusHlEnk A8/Hgc0cvMb7EWV2OuruUT/mYdSl9ArYYTo5j9BHrOw1YwfgJ0jGEbaiepm7zwp6RmLg jKAGFpdKh5CqeA9ewZZ62ZwFJi3dypl3rS6WvUpgd+k2adH5oV3e5OmCLJeRUn37VtS3 dOVA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW/Oxd+N4hyduXqICpV6kXafR64Ihzttxc453z0QNxKVNRlyP82 g+ySz5f7M5srw6D5SVleXg3hjCtiayI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxUFueUib//zRcYE0zOW0zzNvcpRGdaNKJOsG0641VEqwhnjVVXOrjuhkIWSAaUXbz7Heu3sw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:4e4e:: with SMTP id c75mr11576961qkb.3.1575991531071; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. 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Unfortunately, kde is still refusing to run. This is the screen output when I type 'startx" Script started on Tue Dec 10 09:52:17 2019 Command: startx xauth: file /home/gerard/.serverauth.85907 does not exist X.Org X Server 1.18.4 Release Date: 2016-07-19 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 Current Operating System: FreeBSD scorpio.seibercom.net 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Build Date: 05 December 2019 02:53:38PM Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Dec 10 09:52:17 2019 (==) Using config directory: "/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) Using system config directory "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. Command exit status: 0 Script done on Tue Dec 10 09:52:19 2019 This is the Xorg.0.log file: [ 567.758] X.Org X Server 1.18.4 Release Date: 2016-07-19 [ 567.758] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 567.758] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 amd64 [ 567.758] Current Operating System: FreeBSD scorpio.seibercom.net 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [ 567.758] Build Date: 05 December 2019 02:53:38PM [ 567.758] [ 567.758] Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 [ 567.758] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 567.758] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 567.759] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Dec 10 10:08:06 2019 [ 567.759] (==) Using config directory: "/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 567.759] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 567.759] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 567.759] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 567.759] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 567.759] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 567.759] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using the first device section listed. [ 567.759] (**) | |-->Device "NVIDIA Card" [ 567.759] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 567.759] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 567.759] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 567.759] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices [ 567.759] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff [ 567.759] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/ [ 567.759] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" [ 567.759] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure devd or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 567.759] (II) Loader magic: 0x82a4b0 [ 567.759] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 567.759] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 567.759] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0 [ 567.759] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1 [ 567.759] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 [ 567.759] (--) PCI: (0:0:2:0) 8086:3e91:1028:0859 rev 0, Mem @ 0x2ffe000000/16777216, 0x2fa0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64 [ 567.759] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:1d01:1458:375c rev 161, Mem @ 0xeb000000/16777216, 0xa0000000/268435456, 0xb0000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000e000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 [ 567.759] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 567.759] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 567.760] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 567.760] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 567.760] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 [ 567.760] (==) AIGLX enabled [ 567.760] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" [ 567.760] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so [ 567.761] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" [ 567.761] compiled for 1.6.99.901, module version = 1.0.0 [ 567.761] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 567.761] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 440.31 Sun Oct 27 02:13:23 UTC 2019 [ 567.761] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs [ 567.761] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) [ 567.761] (--) using VT number 9 [ 567.761] (II) Loading sub module "fb" [ 567.761] (II) LoadModule: "fb" [ 567.761] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so [ 567.761] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 567.761] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 567.761] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 [ 567.761] (II) Loading sub module "wfb" [ 567.761] (II) LoadModule: "wfb" [ 567.761] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so [ 567.761] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 567.761] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 567.761] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 [ 567.761] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" [ 567.761] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" [ 567.761] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in [ 567.761] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 567.761] (II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 [ 567.761] (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 567.761] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 [ 567.761] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 567.761] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) [ 567.762] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration [ 567.762] (II) Loading sub module "glxserver_nvidia" [ 567.762] (II) LoadModule: "glxserver_nvidia" [ 567.762] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglxserver_nvidia.so [ 567.766] (II) Module glxserver_nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" [ 567.766] compiled for 1.6.99.901, module version = 1.0.0 [ 567.766] Module class: X.Org Server Extension [ 567.766] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 440.31 Sun Oct 27 02:11:10 UTC 2019 [ 567.766] (II) NVIDIA: The X server does not support PRIME Render Offload. [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GPU-0 at PCI:1:0:0 [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-0 [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1 (boot) [ 568.132] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GT 1030 (GP108-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 2097152 kBytes [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 86.08.24.00.2f [ 568.132] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 4X [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-0: disconnected [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-0: Internal TMDS [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-0: 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock [ 568.132] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): [ 568.149] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DELL SE198WFP (DFP-1): connected [ 568.149] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DELL SE198WFP (DFP-1): Internal TMDS [ 568.149] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DELL SE198WFP (DFP-1): 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock [ 568.149] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): [ 568.152] (==) NVIDIA(0): [ 568.152] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select" [ 568.152] (==) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode. [ 568.152] (==) NVIDIA(0): [ 568.153] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated MetaModes: [ 568.153] (II) NVIDIA(0): "DFP-1:nvidia-auto-select" [ 568.153] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1440 x 900 [ 568.156] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (89, 87); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config [ 568.156] (--) NVIDIA(0): option [ 568.156] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp [ 568.156] (II) NVIDIA: Reserving 24576.00 MB of virtual memory for indirect memory [ 568.156] (II) NVIDIA: access. [ 568.175] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DFP-1:nvidia-auto-select" [ 568.207] (==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps [ 568.207] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store enabled [ 568.207] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled [ 568.207] (==) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled [ 568.208] (II) Loading sub module "dri2" [ 568.208] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" [ 568.208] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in [ 568.208] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [ 568.208] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nvidia [ 568.208] (--) RandR disabled [ 568.211] (II) Initializing extension GLX [ 568.211] (II) Indirect GLX disabled. [ 568.264] (II) config/devd: probing input devices... [ 568.264] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null) (/dev/kbdmux) [ 568.264] (II) LoadModule: "kbd" [ 568.264] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so [ 568.264] (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 568.264] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.9.0 [ 568.264] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver [ 568.264] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 22.1 [ 568.264] (II) Using input driver 'kbd' for 'kbdmux' [ 568.264] (**) kbdmux: always reports core events [ 568.264] (**) kbdmux: always reports core events [ 568.264] (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" [ 568.264] (**) Option "XkbRules" "base" [ 568.264] (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" [ 568.264] (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" [ 568.264] (**) Option "config_info" "devd:kbdmux" [ 568.264] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "kbdmux" (type: KEYBOARD, id 6) [ 568.264] (II) config/devd: kbdmux is enabled, ignoring device ukbd0 [ 568.265] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null) (/dev/sysmouse) [ 568.265] (II) LoadModule: "mouse" [ 568.265] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so [ 568.265] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 568.265] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.9.3 [ 568.265] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver [ 568.265] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 22.1 [ 568.265] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'sysmouse' [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: always reports core events [ 568.265] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" [ 568.265] (==) sysmouse: Protocol: "Auto" [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: always reports core events [ 568.265] (==) sysmouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: Buttons: 5 [ 568.265] (**) Option "config_info" "devd:sysmouse" [ 568.265] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "sysmouse" (type: MOUSE, id 7) [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0 [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 [ 568.265] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 [ 568.265] (II) sysmouse: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 [ 568.265] (II) sysmouse: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse [ 568.265] (II) config/devd: device /dev/ums0 already opened [ 568.268] (II) config/devd: terminating backend... [ 568.268] (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" [ 568.268] (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" [ 568.382] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 [ 568.383] (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. And this is the ~/.xinitrc file: exec ck-launch-session startkde I don't see any obvious problems.I tried using both the 'nividia.ko" driver and the "nvidia-modeset.ko" driver. Neither worked. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 10 16:08:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AB81DD3A7 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kowalczt.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com (mail-lj1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47XQ3N4RJsz3Jq1 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kowalczt.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id k8so20500215ljh.5 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:08:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Fykg1MEr+Ovg+1/jFcvMKdzl8JvJiSlLe9RUa2xLK4=; b=p/WVam1ekglIAtkrO79EMjlFf07vMzIwD9uiS+TKuGGGAun8xWWIeCwYaODZwu7pnD ZC+liLg3f+aBR9DSIhoPf5cTuMmWBOsXnHDARZDABSI2xLaANhWv9K/mdwQKmVFh6inJ 5Chk8aXBHpo2OJCTcJIjaZJBmDiG6BWebkAHUgeD81Dmarb6HjvzNWgFc1n1r/ynv1k+ tliDLaseIUC+kz4/Ez5hv9YeWI4LSa8ECSINNrS19xOhZ2YlzTx78iYn+jBYP+vuPPEL 7U3445AQRqYtL53f7S0ucFOzfluuRC0bX9PCs9LxWOdymxtkxwNAYb039eAi/AL3v5ri NZxQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Fykg1MEr+Ovg+1/jFcvMKdzl8JvJiSlLe9RUa2xLK4=; b=IOBSIR5tAPMGnP+t7AxUCv5UCZfxNhCKHirz+PE3QGDF/2RmZnb/f9KIR78EnG82yy AyTCYYPaEJrk7HzqD1uF4sSyma1zjOyqU6XnhBYRqM2KDbro60NtO+1/+Z5W62yegTCE BMSZGanTcGAix3B6+g/tKSFEDjoxbcs+z3t5eY9aTTJPK9KTl1UwACsyyIZEUr+LbM88 YC+HipZUOQ8qZSKKNu4ivkSTeKPzdoN12x0MRJHM4WsPOFIA8zzMceXkErLY068JZ3+x eB08eN4pYeECdr6o8f3iiCha4GcUKHR2zYDbqNSVfCYPEFsmX9iUfS4183vnpIKDWHvc 2gTw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUup/pc9jRQTvknzq5BshxQEfmG++BnnPxeCLaKX3ECqbvZkHoC y2l5KVpe5Z0ZVeokSDB0R3aARsHI+4Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqywQ1IphcRzVeUJM1MJPg944B1f+GoTaRiV8poO/b5kx7CwxekyPMyHuq2nxLbXq7q9FyuVig== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a408:: with SMTP id p8mr3215609ljn.145.1575994125554; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kowalczt.ddns.net (94-172-76-61.dynamic.chello.pl. [94.172.76.61]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h19sm2027452ljl.57.2019.12.10.08.08.45 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:08:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tomasz Kowalczyk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get kde5 to run Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <16652873.sFgvYJuXru@kowalczt.ddns.net> In-Reply-To: <20191210102526.00003d12@seibercom.net> References: <20191210102526.00003d12@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47XQ3N4RJsz3Jq1 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:08:48 -0000 On wtorek, 10 grudnia 2019 16:25:26 CET Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD 11.3 > > After failing to get kde5 to run with the build in Intel video chip, I > installed an nVidia card, with the driver, etcetera. Unfortunately, kde >.... > .... > And this is the ~/.xinitrc file: > > exec ck-launch-session startkde I hit the same issue few days ago. (I wasnt using my FreeBSD instalation for some time tho). Looks like some files changed and now i can only run kde from console by changing that line to: exec ck-launch-session startplasma-x11 > ~/.xsession-errors 2>&1 Ofc u dont need to collect console output, but sometimes its usefull. 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c16sm1060865qka.18.2019.12.10.08.26.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47XQSK4r0rz1D8H for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:26:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:26:55 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to get kde5 to run Message-ID: <20191210112655.00002f3d@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <16652873.sFgvYJuXru@kowalczt.ddns.net> References: <20191210102526.00003d12@seibercom.net> <16652873.sFgvYJuXru@kowalczt.ddns.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47XQSN5F0Cz3Km1 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=faGypRVt; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::832 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.21 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.71)[ip: (-9.36), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.22), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:27:01 -0000 On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:08:44 +0100, Tomasz Kowalczyk commented: >On wtorek, 10 grudnia 2019 16:25:26 CET Jerry wrote: >> FreeBSD 11.3 >> >> After failing to get kde5 to run with the build in Intel video chip, >> I installed an nVidia card, with the driver, etcetera. >> Unfortunately, kde >>.... >> .... >> And this is the ~/.xinitrc file: >> >> exec ck-launch-session startkde > >I hit the same issue few days ago. (I wasnt using my FreeBSD >instalation for some time tho). >Looks like some files changed and now i can only run kde from console >by changing that line to: > >exec ck-launch-session startplasma-x11 > ~/.xsession-errors 2>&1 > >Ofc u dont need to collect console output, but sometimes its usefull. Thanks, that did it. I don't know why it isn't stated somewhere though. I wasted three days on this. I even purchased a new video card because I thought it would not support my build-in intel video chip. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 07:11:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1A81CF26B for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: from r2-d2.netlabs.org (r2-d2.netlabs.org [213.238.45.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Xp582DqLz3HbY for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: (qmail 14299 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2019 07:11:36 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 14295, pid: 14297, t: 0.5965s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO eternal.glodok.netlabs.org) (ml-ktk@netlabs.org@114.124.146.240) by 0 with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2019 07:11:36 -0000 Subject: Re: u3g Sierra Wireless LTE device disconnects ppp after 2-3MB of outgoing traffic To: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <972e8912-0ed7-63c8-d079-c11b12f8c9ad@netlabs.org> <6e6176d5-c9c5-b38a-0fe6-8b21c9c33824@sentex.net> From: Adrian Gschwend Message-ID: <6d5e9963-bdfe-81b3-73be-6ee349f9091e@netlabs.org> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:11:32 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6e6176d5-c9c5-b38a-0fe6-8b21c9c33824@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Xp582DqLz3HbY X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml-ktk@netlabs.org has no SPF policy when checking 213.238.45.90) smtp.mailfrom=ml-ktk@netlabs.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.57)[0.573,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.92)[0.916,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.75)[ipnet: 213.238.32.0/20(4.89), asn: 9211(3.85), country: DE(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:11:41 -0000 On 03.12.19 22:50, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I dont use mpd, only the built in ppp.  Can you try it with the built in > ppp ? Looking at your log snippets I meanwhile had issues again and I'm now running on ppp. It behaves ok until it doesn't, so somehow the issues are back here as well. I am currently logging quite a lot so let's see what I figure out. ppp seems nice, I especially like pppctl to see status of the line. What I can't seem to figure out is how to send AT commands like AT!GSTATUS? on "demand" to the modem with pppctl, any ideas of how this would look like? Can't seem to find much on the topic, I think ppp & AT is a bit out of fashion for most. I see the GSTATUS in the log on startup but I would like to check frequency bands from time to time to see if it stays on the same or not. regards Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 13:49:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6EB1D708F for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47XywX1B4bz476G for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22402221CF for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Not seeing email from *bugzilla* to ports-bugs mail list since 3rd December= =2E The mail list itself appears to work fine. Maybe a bugzilla problem? See https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2019-December/thread= =2Ehtml Also no official email address for problem reports for freebsd bugzilla its= elf, at least nothing from a brief glance at the main page. Surprised at that, real= ly. 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WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6d5e9963-bdfe-81b3-73be-6ee349f9091e@netlabs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Xzhm2hYyz496k X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mike@sentex.net designates 2607:f3e0:0:3::19 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mike@sentex.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[pyroxene2a.sentex.ca]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sentex.net]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[pyroxene2a.sentex.ca]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.71)[ipnet: 2607:f3e0::/32(-4.93), asn: 11647(-3.55), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:24:41 -0000 On 12/11/2019 2:11 AM, Adrian Gschwend wrote: > On 03.12.19 22:50, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> I dont use mpd, only the built in ppp.  Can you try it with the built in >> ppp ? Looking at your log snippets > I meanwhile had issues again and I'm now running on ppp. It behaves ok > until it doesn't, so somehow the issues are back here as well. I am > currently logging quite a lot so let's see what I figure out. Do you have LQR/ech enabled ?  Here is the ppp.conf section I use pppgprs:  set device /dev/cuaU0.3  set server /var/run/gprs-internet "" 0177  set speed 921600  set timeout 0  set authname wapuser1  set authkey wap  set dial "ABORT BUSY TIMEOUT 2 \         \"\" \         AT OK-AT-OK \         AT+CFUN=1 OK-AT-OK \         AT+CMEE=2 OK-AT-OK \         AT+CSQ OK \         AT+CGDCONT=2,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"ltemobile.apn\\\" OK \         AT+CGACT? OK-AT-OK \         AT+CGATT? OK \         AT+CGCLASS? OK \         AT+COPS? OK \         AT!GSTATUS? OK \         AT&v OK \         ATD*99# CONNECT"  set crtscts on  #set mtu maximum 296  #set mru maximum 296  disable vjcomp  disable acfcomp  disable deflate  disable deflate24  disable pred1  disable protocomp  disable mppe  disable ipv6cp  set lqrperiod 10  enable lqr  enable echo  disable dns  set ifaddr 10.1.0.2/0 10.1.0.1/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0  add default HISADDR          # See ppp.link* > > ppp seems nice, I especially like pppctl to see status of the line. > > What I can't seem to figure out is how to send AT commands like > AT!GSTATUS? on "demand" to the modem with pppctl, any ideas of how this > would look like? Depending on your modem, some Sierra's dont allow the GSTATUS command from the management port, just signal info. Eg. port /dev/cuaU0.3 is my data port to make my ppp connection on, I can connect to cuaU1.4 to ask some basic info like signal.  Sierra should have a pretty good AT command set manual free to download so you can see what is exactly available. % cu -l /dev/cuaU1.4 Connected Sierra Wireless, Incorporated MC7700 APP1 OK +CSQ: 21,99 OK for whatever reason, ate1 is not respected, so my commands dont show. the above is the output of entering ati and at+csq  set lqrperiod 10  enable lqr  enable echo should allow ppp to reconnect should ppp disconnect. you should in your logs see  ppp[3416]: tun10: LCP: deflink: SendEchoRequest(80560) state = Opened  ppp[3416]: tun10: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoReply(176) state = Opened     ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 16:34:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EE31DA648 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: from r2-d2.netlabs.org (r2-d2.netlabs.org [213.238.45.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y2Zq2kphz4K1F for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: (qmail 39692 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2019 16:34:40 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 39682, pid: 39690, t: 0.4074s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO eternal.glodok.netlabs.org) (ml-ktk@netlabs.org@114.124.167.158) by 0 with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2019 16:34:39 -0000 Subject: Re: u3g Sierra Wireless LTE device disconnects ppp after 2-3MB of outgoing traffic To: mike tancsa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <972e8912-0ed7-63c8-d079-c11b12f8c9ad@netlabs.org> <6e6176d5-c9c5-b38a-0fe6-8b21c9c33824@sentex.net> <6d5e9963-bdfe-81b3-73be-6ee349f9091e@netlabs.org> <56eb59b2-6cbb-cfb0-4594-46644aee7164@sentex.net> From: Adrian Gschwend Message-ID: <8d25dd77-7c71-5a4a-2f2e-78c541e3fb9c@netlabs.org> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:34:36 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56eb59b2-6cbb-cfb0-4594-46644aee7164@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Y2Zq2kphz4K1F X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml-ktk@netlabs.org has no SPF policy when checking 213.238.45.90) smtp.mailfrom=ml-ktk@netlabs.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.18 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.61)[0.609,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.928,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.74)[ipnet: 213.238.32.0/20(4.88), asn: 9211(3.85), country: DE(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:34:44 -0000 On 11.12.19 21:24, mike tancsa wrote: > Do you have LQR/ech enabled ?  Here is the ppp.conf section I use yeah, it's pretty much based on what you proposed, main change was APN. Later I did add set reconnect 3 5 Hoping that this adds something but apparently it does not. > Depending on your modem, some Sierra's dont allow the GSTATUS command > from the management port, just signal info. Eg. port /dev/cuaU0.3 is my > data port to make my ppp connection on, I can connect to cuaU1.4 to ask > some basic info like signal.  Sierra should have a pretty good AT > command set manual free to download so you can see what is exactly > available. yes I have that one. > % cu -l /dev/cuaU1.4 > Connected > Sierra Wireless, Incorporated > MC7700 > APP1 > > OK > +CSQ: 21,99 > OK That does not work on mine, on 2 I get "all ports are connected" but that's where PPP is running on. On the others I get "connected" but never any output (and also no echo) > for whatever reason, ate1 is not respected, so my commands dont show. > the above is the output of entering ati and at+csq I've seen that too >  set lqrperiod 10 >  enable lqr >  enable echo > > should allow ppp to reconnect should ppp disconnect. unfortunately it doesn't. The link seems still up but absolutely nothing goes through anymore. The only thing I can do is kill ppp and restart it, then I have a link again immediately. > you should in your logs see > >  ppp[3416]: tun10: LCP: deflink: SendEchoRequest(80560) state = Opened >  ppp[3416]: tun10: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoReply(176) state = Opened jep: ppp[57554]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoReq: magic 0x245182f7 is wrong, expecting 0x6745dd7e ppp[57554]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(217) state = Opened ppp[57554]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoReply(217) state = Opened ppp[57554]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoRequest(986) state = Opened not sure what's going on with the wrong magic. 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Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:41:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: u3g Sierra Wireless LTE device disconnects ppp after 2-3MB of outgoing traffic To: Adrian Gschwend , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <972e8912-0ed7-63c8-d079-c11b12f8c9ad@netlabs.org> <6e6176d5-c9c5-b38a-0fe6-8b21c9c33824@sentex.net> <6d5e9963-bdfe-81b3-73be-6ee349f9091e@netlabs.org> <56eb59b2-6cbb-cfb0-4594-46644aee7164@sentex.net> <8d25dd77-7c71-5a4a-2f2e-78c541e3fb9c@netlabs.org> From: mike tancsa Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mike@sentex.net; keydata= mQENBFywzOMBCACoNFpwi5MeyEREiCeHtbm6pZJI/HnO+wXdCAWtZkS49weOoVyUj5BEXRZP xflV2ib2hflX4nXqhenaNiia4iaZ9ft3I1ebd7GEbGnsWCvAnob5MvDZyStDAuRxPJK1ya/s +6rOvr+eQiXYNVvfBhrCfrtR/esSkitBGxhUkBjOti8QwzD71JVF5YaOjBAs7jZUKyLGj0kW yDg4jUndudWU7G2yc9GwpHJ9aRSUN8e/mWdIogK0v+QBHfv/dsI6zVB7YuxCC9Fx8WPwfhDH VZC4kdYCQWKXrm7yb4TiVdBh5kgvlO9q3js1yYdfR1x8mjK2bH2RSv4bV3zkNmsDCIxjABEB AAG0HW1pa2UgdGFuY3NhIDxtaWtlQHNlbnRleC5uZXQ+iQFUBBMBCAA+FiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs 4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAlywzOYCGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ eVOEFl5WrMhnPAf7Bf+ola0V9t4i8rwCMGvzkssGaxY/5zNSZO9BgSgfN0WzgmBEOy/3R4km Yn5KH94NltJYAAE5hqkFmAwK6psOqAR9cxHrRfU+gV2KO8pCDc6K/htkQcd/mclJYpCHp6Eq EVJOiAxcNaYuHZkeMdXDuvvI5Rk82VHk84BGgxIqIrhLlkguoPbXOOa+8c/Mpb1sRAGZEOuX EzKNC49+GS9gKW6ISbanyPsGEcFyP7GKMzcHBPf3cPrewZQZ6gBoNscasL6IJeAQDqzQAxbU GjO0qBSMRgnLXK7+DJlxrYdHGXqNbV6AYsmHJ6c2WWWiuRviFBqXinlgJ2FnYebZPAfWibkB DQRcsMzkAQgA1Dpo/xWS66MaOJLwA28sKNMwkEk1Yjs+okOXDOu1F+0qvgE8sVmrOOPvvWr4 axtKRSG1t2QUiZ/ZkW/x/+t0nrM39EANV1VncuQZ1ceIiwTJFqGZQ8kb0+BNkwuNVFHRgXm1 qzAJweEtRdsCMohB+H7BL5LGCVG5JaU0lqFU9pFP40HxEbyzxjsZgSE8LwkI6wcu0BLv6K6c Lm0EiHPOl5G8kgRi38PS7/6s3R8QDsEtbGsYy6O82k3zSLIjuDBwA9GRaeigGppTxzAHVjf5 o9KKu4O7gC2KKVHPegbXS+GK7DU0fjzX57H5bZ6komE5eY4p3oWT/CwVPSGfPs8jOwARAQAB iQE8BBgBCAAmFiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAlywzOQCGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQeVOE Fl5WrMhmjQf/dBCjAVn1J0GzSsHiLvSAQz1cchbdy8LD0Tnpzjgp5KLU7sNojbI8vqt4yKAi cayI88j8+xxNXPMWM4pHELuUuVHS5XTpHa/wwulUtI5w/zyKlUDsIvqTPZLUEwH7DfNBueVM WyNaIjV2kxSmM8rNMC+RkgyfbjGLCkmWsMRVuLIUYpl5D9WHmenUbiErlKU2KvEEXEg/aLKq 3m/AdM9RAYsP9O4l+sAZEfyYoNJzDhTZMzn/9Q0uFPLK9smDQh4WBTFaApveVJPHRKmHPoNF Xxj+yScYdQ4SKH34WnhNSELvnZQ3ulH5tpASmm0w+GxfZqSc8+QCwoKtBRDUxoE56A== Message-ID: <3cbe8ef9-4800-bfc0-ba34-c2ca56c74e17@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:41:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8d25dd77-7c71-5a4a-2f2e-78c541e3fb9c@netlabs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Y2l76pWGz4KNd X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mike@sentex.net designates 2607:f3e0:0:3::19 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mike@sentex.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[pyroxene2a.sentex.ca]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sentex.net]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[pyroxene2a.sentex.ca]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.71)[ipnet: 2607:f3e0::/32(-4.93), asn: 11647(-3.55), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:41:57 -0000 On 12/11/2019 11:34 AM, Adrian Gschwend wrote: > On 11.12.19 21:24, mike tancsa wrote: > >> Do you have LQR/ech enabled ?  Here is the ppp.conf section I use > yeah, it's pretty much based on what you proposed, main change was APN. > > Later I did add > > set reconnect 3 5 > > Hoping that this adds something but apparently it does not. How are you starting ppp ?  ppp -ddial target ? >> Depending on your modem, some Sierra's dont allow the GSTATUS command >> from the management port, just signal info. Eg. port /dev/cuaU0.3 is my >> data port to make my ppp connection on, I can connect to cuaU1.4 to ask >> some basic info like signal.  Sierra should have a pretty good AT >> command set manual free to download so you can see what is exactly >> available. > yes I have that one. > >> % cu -l /dev/cuaU1.4 >> Connected >> Sierra Wireless, Incorporated >> MC7700 >> APP1 >> >> OK >> +CSQ: 21,99 >> OK > That does not work on mine, on 2 I get "all ports are connected" but > that's where PPP is running on. On the others I get "connected" but > never any output (and also no echo) on cuaU1.4 just type ati You wont see what you type, but you should get MCC7700. Does that not work ? > >> for whatever reason, ate1 is not respected, so my commands dont show. >> the above is the output of entering ati and at+csq > I've seen that too > >>  set lqrperiod 10 >>  enable lqr >>  enable echo >> >> should allow ppp to reconnect should ppp disconnect. > unfortunately it doesn't. The link seems still up but absolutely nothing > goes through anymore. > > The only thing I can do is kill ppp and restart it, then I have a link > again immediately. your ppp logs should show you something when the connection dies. Whats in the logs ? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 16:53:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFCC1DAD10 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y30z4JbWz4L22 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=AYr0P4SDn3AXHb7r9vRGe+Dn/cKtDKxc8G+9g+8W3Jo=; b=Vld1a66g3T6YcOY9os4eZAGhx1 fgGAUzNkB0VRSjZzG23fK734jhiqNliHZnLeOAZtDscWpBn5YNGymk7rZkN5q5NnJ+ZiNMw5PRF+V e6ZDtPv/2EoOsIcvSN2JsGQR2V7G1dSMQBpU8YSbbZJh9NSTDfTZSNXKy7XN7/HGy0JU=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1if5FE-000Lzn-0F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:53:48 +0700 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:53:47 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Java: starting a JNLP file? 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To view the server console, I need Java. When I click on "Launch Console" in the IPMI web interface, Firefox downloads a "launch.jnlp" file.=20 What should I install from ports/packages, and what should I configure in Firefox, so that I can view the server console? I have java/openjdk8-jre installed, but /usr/local/bin/java does not seem to know how to handle a .jnlp file. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJd8R8bAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0gg4IALpVD5Xhv4XwVfpqyjyLPEoK tGU7MtTjt9jlUQ+ZDdEGjynGm/JUqc5HMmqbV8c6NDaQBYpKUTg2RkXSm1ucnbDA KyiH1wfYVZytGnjgbNQ86vFeAPTwHOZmlr9vjqwFYHzpo1UQIOTHS79Iy48eoXLG z6GPpeZ55xbMYrs6L1Yua5t7lSNYKoDAQuqTkyDVmtN2kMFcW6oN49asV/5bkF7R Qn9iqpuS/L7ilFLJ/noptGOVIBKLURir8+ChjAgPY7XauqQsFQvMKc2U9J5nLPJ4 RAUmqN1PiMxV6qEQ8hMA1fyqlx0GcQvPCad66R4RqzSGWRIPOhCi3Ai0z3sAQXk= =CGTE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 16:59:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7959A1DAE9D for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: from r2-d2.netlabs.org (r2-d2.netlabs.org [213.238.45.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y37y4V0Lz4LFy for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml-ktk@netlabs.org) Received: (qmail 40922 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2019 16:59:56 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 40918, pid: 40920, t: 0.5633s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO eternal.glodok.netlabs.org) (ml-ktk@netlabs.org@182.0.175.147) by 0 with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2019 16:59:55 -0000 Subject: Re: u3g Sierra Wireless LTE device disconnects ppp after 2-3MB of outgoing traffic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa References: <972e8912-0ed7-63c8-d079-c11b12f8c9ad@netlabs.org> <6e6176d5-c9c5-b38a-0fe6-8b21c9c33824@sentex.net> <6d5e9963-bdfe-81b3-73be-6ee349f9091e@netlabs.org> <56eb59b2-6cbb-cfb0-4594-46644aee7164@sentex.net> <8d25dd77-7c71-5a4a-2f2e-78c541e3fb9c@netlabs.org> <3cbe8ef9-4800-bfc0-ba34-c2ca56c74e17@sentex.net> From: Adrian Gschwend Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:59:52 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3cbe8ef9-4800-bfc0-ba34-c2ca56c74e17@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Y37y4V0Lz4LFy X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml-ktk@netlabs.org has no SPF policy when checking 213.238.45.90) smtp.mailfrom=ml-ktk@netlabs.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.18 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.61)[0.611,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.926,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.74)[ipnet: 213.238.32.0/20(4.87), asn: 9211(3.84), country: DE(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:59:59 -0000 On 11.12.19 23:41, mike tancsa wrote: > How are you starting ppp ?  ppp -ddial target ? exactly. Only thing it tells me is that I do not have a "default" but I guess that's because I labeled it "provider". > on cuaU1.4 just type > > ati > > You wont see what you type, but you should get MCC7700. Does that not work ? no it does not, I guess it's because I have a different card so maybe my hardware behaves a bit different. Mine is a MC7430 (Asian LTE bands) > your ppp logs should show you something when the connection dies. Whats > in the logs ? That is the weird thing, not much so far. Just the ones I posted before and from time to time reporting like ppp[57554]: tun0: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors -> FCS: 22, ADDR: 90, COMD: 0, PROTO: 0 regards Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 17:00:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45351DB048 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x332.google.com (mail-wm1-x332.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::332]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y38j5Ty4z4LNy for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x332.google.com with SMTP id n9so7949411wmd.3 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:00:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=W+Bzx/WrRRtE7JSPXdA8oSDP4YZMFPg54+ynzDXfAlg=; b=OB9ybvQhsvS5/gEZqwfrYPF8yoLD39oBeOCn9c3zfzdTP0pr3uh+Srcfwf3QkYoU+s /OeucoTDNRuSAtbM2apbJlsQydlVJEwM0JGUDXZ/gqhJTh8iTx51SLw4iJ+qC/T/2lBX LNyALbLQnEC1RouwACuPbtjgFQoifgSKvkRsW5RrrP0NSVeDLHJ5a4t4WpAYQ+n3II/1 /BBZrfQkR1I8WjIgRYX99qJ1jB41/6QMhq689SphoCFFRhkaUZoF3Ok9B7FqJ9l0YTaJ Mcp8+VFj+x1UqKSw3BVSN8lurwPj1VYXRnvvq79qhf4Yl8l4lGPhNw06C8Lpi1zI8gAW Ohfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=W+Bzx/WrRRtE7JSPXdA8oSDP4YZMFPg54+ynzDXfAlg=; b=mXjQ8G06nCjUxah81dWyBcoae8UL9Sxuc8DDtfpHBn4DSaCAfTMIxCcM9Cei7pNUCw 1offZrTidc3klOrLQQs2NSzMxruf0rRl+RgPm5nV9cPMYlFUNgyIJ27FG6KS+s7/UgNy WLLu4tpS8pTkiqTCOZcH3vfAp0atMEuV9SZFgobww9G7eYyahYKFgaepcVZmou9JSFTF Nmzq8qB8KNJIt2MIw9EvwusWgKKF9KiOFSsRJTCe/kMfnLg2dPt4z2c1gWq+KwY0UVhO QFaz9OFA28OA9vbcjDp/IWb6B3tI1c5kXTuCuiZ8SJVeTdgYblLaEd9olMbVQ09DwuXo F+7A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX8qzlIUxkI4Df04SQYqcJddnwG3TstMOFWvalEOUmC5IgbE/iE bMq1Wqw5WFfuumaiStLgvUDah3wt3HWc7s0gh4g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqypxQgC+EtDwuQTOc5MaBbLQsk7T9c0qlm6wZX5L2GgDhYCzb1eYCg/HblHErec05xYcC0gCtou6dDDN6AX63c= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:282:: with SMTP id 2mr812872wmk.73.1576083635802; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:00:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191211165347.GA84357@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20191211165347.GA84357@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Antonio Olivares Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:00:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Java: starting a JNLP file? To: Victor Sudakov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Y38j5Ty4z4LNy X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=OB9ybvQh; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::332 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=olivares14031@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.18), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.68), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:00:38 -0000 On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a Supermicro server with IPMI interface. To view the server > console, I need Java. When I click on "Launch Console" in the IPMI web > interface, Firefox downloads a "launch.jnlp" file. > > What should I install from ports/packages, and what should I configure > in Firefox, so that I can view the server console? > > I have java/openjdk8-jre installed, but /usr/local/bin/java does not > seem to know how to handle a .jnlp file. > > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ Dear Sir, You would need to install icedtea-web from ports/pkgs and it should work. The question that remains is if you are running firefox(regular) or firefox-esr. The regular one does not all plugins while firefox-esr does. I have icedtea-web + openjdk working correctly. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 17:09:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EBA1DB4D5 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y3Lq6Ds6z4Lt4 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=9WGC2kvGsApn7McqkHP3qXCATqo73dfNsENo+ci3cgc=; b=URv2JCJ+pVcL47P7APWoSja5z/ 1gbrGsI0SWMCYtaJtuULk/6/aErn99CTv84XfahQhHY3GCYteF4JGSwjiMywOrRDFaFtOiBv4kcUg 4dPDRpWNCJ9nBeG9jWpMAT5FLjyg0YdCDjTe81a/oH21mQFfcoC+o/YZfaq2s/1vpXWg=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1if5UI-000Mj6-CM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 00:09:22 +0700 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 00:09:22 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Java: starting a JNLP file? 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To view the server > > console, I need Java. When I click on "Launch Console" in the IPMI web > > interface, Firefox downloads a "launch.jnlp" file. > > > > What should I install from ports/packages, and what should I configure > > in Firefox, so that I can view the server console? > > > > I have java/openjdk8-jre installed, but /usr/local/bin/java does not > > seem to know how to handle a .jnlp file. > > > > > > -- > > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ >=20 > Dear Sir, >=20 > You would need to install icedtea-web from ports/pkgs and it should > work.=20 Thank you for the hint. icedtea starts, I walk through several security warnings and finally get the message "Error: no iKVM64 in java.library.path". Do you think there is anyt= hing to be done about it? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJd8SLCAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0ox0H/RwxMoRgsonmWjIyHcJQQuV/ do6TzrIPwQ8xzKFRtz1lwYU4THVFeHhg6Wkx3jh9Ci+bgK9SBUiZlIRZObmOWzSV r2NCAD+i3jl19HEUmmxHgIJkIIIYS+0xVWoStYxPHSuCY0nBg8ERzCC0ZSc7yTcJ 01l/W84cV6181TpMGyHH41eXUmzAkaixaDlslj1wQFPZ0oFy7piY9WZXJk+wBHB8 yjMLX/GT/2fqf3YrHcRCtpWDoBFZwcCmFn2DBSbj17/eqeVh5e60yAAimWWD2FIX NlEcE2rndI2DlBRup55t1SB6F+ZMdsBBG8fArsiVLYAXvAO9g566OCXnKuNe2e4= =GSU1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 17:39:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E65A1DC188 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Norman.Gray@glasgow.ac.uk) Received: from plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk (plockton.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y4170fRDz4PNq for ; 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I'd like to add a new VDEV to a pool, and I'm being warned (slightly to=20 my surprise) that there's a 'mismatched replication level'. I'm trying=20 to get a sense of how much of a risk I'd be running by forcing this with=20 -f. Context: * I currently have two raidz2 VDEVs composed of nine 5.5TB disks=20 (thus 2 x ~40TB available) * I'd like to add another raidz2 VDEV composed of six 12TB disks=20 (thus adding a VDEV of ~48TB, roughly the same size as the other two) --=20 this is what prompts the warning about replication level * The storage is a local mirror which it would be very annoying to=20 lose, but it's not holding unique copies of anything * I don't like using -f options unless I'm pretty damn confident I=20 know what's happening (I wouldn't set this up in quite this way from scratch, but this is an=20 old-ish server, and a small budget windfall has allowed me to max out=20 the remaining available slots with new disks). I can appreciate that the ideal planned setup would, in principle, be to=20 have all the VDEVs be symmetrical, in terms of size and number of disks.=20 Is a VDEV mix merely 'not ideal', or 'not great but you'll be fine',=20 or Bad? My mental model of what's going on suggests that, since the pool simply=20 stripes across the VDEVs, it doesn't have to care how the VDEVs=20 themselves are structured, so that a 9x5.5 raidz2 and a 6x12 raidz2=20 would be roughly equally used, and I can't see why there would be a=20 performance or a utilisation difference between the two (but I still=20 count myself as a ZFS tyro). I can see that there would be a reliability issue if the various VDEVs=20 were different sizes of mirrored ones -- this would create different=20 amounts of resilience, and so the warning makes sense in a 'are you=20 sure?' way. If the VDEVs were different sizes and the pool was=20 mirroring over them, then there would obviously be a utilisation issue. Though both of [1] and [2] illustrate only mixing VDEVs of the same=20 type, [2] says merely that 'When using RAIDZ vdevs, it is also a good=20 idea to keep them at the same width and of the same type.' and=20 illustrates a 4-wide plus 8-wide raidz2 as 'not horrible'. The forum=20 post at [3] asks essentially the same question as this email, but=20 receives a rather oblique answer. The question at [4] gets a confident=20 answer which I don't _think_ makes complete sense. Since [1] and [2] are both more authoritative and match my own=20 understanding, I'm inclined to believe that adding this new VDEV would=20 be less than perfect, but reasonable. Am I deceiving myself? Thanks for any advice you can offer, Norman [1]=20 https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/slideshow-explaining-vdev-zpoo= l-zil-and-l2arc-for-noobs.7775/ [2]=20 https://www.ixsystems.com/community/resources/introduction-to-zfs.111/ [3]=20 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/zfs-mismatched-repli-levels.28226/ [4] https://serverfault.com/questions/522782/zfs-with-unsymmetric-vdevs --=20 Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 18:10:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746EF1DCDB1 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 18:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y4hq1DT4z4RgY for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id p17so8022803wmi.3 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:10:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9Gxf/XXgrwwjGxHK8j8WKebsII1mmUkbXEuOThNwsdk=; b=S08nET2762l8Kn9aZY04U9bUDXhelvvqSr5Zv/+xta2h7hkcbL2zgDrk+2BVQZCfEQ Jw3X7XK0CYe7AG6G9xH/lf224X5X7FVaKxYf/H0okAgTuT7gYyms4IVXhHj1lPx4D7Y3 pti8ZI7ylTbnb+aGxX5FakYKwKUdUChxSKJiarzuBqiBAsJIsVabeBYYTFLe+IEBEHIA k9ER++xOmVZVowVkQ3BE7IrUeOz917sIpvJbyOt7yPdUd1TzPUpTQqNB1DBosEqN6+Ni SzHM+mL/jYNc9uwG7Mr/GKGByRI46WHH1HCOAhr1zY4Pw+oMbcRIkY+PmefdW8AhT/th BmKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9Gxf/XXgrwwjGxHK8j8WKebsII1mmUkbXEuOThNwsdk=; b=CS2eCBJKrHFTGyejgAVW6QZAyDZ/STbD6RiG2AUUZeJjdLJb4NBNUAar7mt2NO34Qo yXlw2cAS3DaDLkyhFrQEIBDV3bTkJqDzD3oy8GTm8TpeKNieerkaBOecaG7x+nUzbAZu qdgNC/t5DT8HPduPf6WrJDFVjeiuKGZ8iLOoJwXGyUoamqzYiPRstN/+BeHAcvvlFt09 ikCvZCuxJHKApB9R5HdOT1rt/ACJW1N/qQfik4rJz0XKpHxrO7766inyCHLB37bgSaj5 gRgUuUdNVfrXcBBp/xz+Q3QZPfi9wNm9TCQVsKKGCHR5eSWbBJgXbX3rz37Imy0SWSwv 1ORg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWaN8sNG4E51ikFZbikQpZtiAdsE0uqwvs4xk1a6qckFagDt8HK PXU9JqQr+ATGIgzJJCUh4lPquERPIQulj2hYUef9bGpM X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzdgSOcIfKr0OgRm3HlHhntp8ajVzT+xR2rrSCseZI2AekwMx3HPOlBLyIQnk1jlOlcOKNBLeyz6TbKYEYUCuc= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7e13:: with SMTP id z19mr1227005wmc.67.1576087800634; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:10:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191211165347.GA84357@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191211170922.GA84848@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20191211170922.GA84848@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Antonio Olivares Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 12:09:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Java: starting a JNLP file? 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To view the server > > > console, I need Java. When I click on "Launch Console" in the IPMI web > > > interface, Firefox downloads a "launch.jnlp" file. > > > > > > What should I install from ports/packages, and what should I configure > > > in Firefox, so that I can view the server console? > > > > > > I have java/openjdk8-jre installed, but /usr/local/bin/java does not > > > seem to know how to handle a .jnlp file. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > > > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > You would need to install icedtea-web from ports/pkgs and it should > > work. > > Thank you for the hint. > > icedtea starts, I walk through several security warnings and finally get the > message "Error: no iKVM64 in java.library.path". Do you think there is anything > to be done about it? > > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ Dear Sir, For that error message apparently java from Oracle is needed. As you can verify here: http://navit.pw/r/CodingHelp/post/d2td3z I hope you can get a better solution that you can use openjdk, but I do not know if it can get it to work. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 19:01:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6832D1DE561 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mail.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [216.226.128.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y5qy1TxTz4WHN for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (vitani.den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by mail.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1067A8F644; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:01:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Cross-compiling with go for arm on amd64. Possible? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191210152323.GA47078@thismonkey.com> From: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:01:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191210152323.GA47078@thismonkey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Y5qy1TxTz4WHN X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=cyberleo.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cyberleo@cyberleo.net designates 216.226.128.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cyberleo@cyberleo.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.226.128.180]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[cyberleo.net,none]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13706, ipnet:216.226.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:01:20 -0000 On 12/10/19 9:23 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: > rather than the dd I did: > # truncate -s 512M /var/swapfile > # ls -als /var/swapfile > 96 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 536870912 Dec 11 02:08 /var/swapfile > > The fstab info was very helpful, thanks. I've now got a 512M swapfile. Don't use truncate(1) to create swapfiles. On filesystems that support sparse files, it will not allocate any space on the underlying filesystem. This can lead to a deadlock if the kernel attempts to swap and the filesystem runs out of space to allocate. It can also lead to extreme fragmentation, but that's not much of an issue on flash storage. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Element9 Communications http://www.Element9.net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 11 19:44:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9B41DF7EF for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Y6nL1mfCz4ZVy for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.103.124]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N63NW-1hdSTv09qy-016MXR; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:43:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:43:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: CyberLeo Kitsana Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross-compiling with go for arm on amd64. Possible? 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I've now got a 512M swapfile. > > Don't use truncate(1) to create swapfiles. On filesystems that support > sparse files, it will not allocate any space on the underlying > filesystem. This can lead to a deadlock if the kernel attempts to swap > and the filesystem runs out of space to allocate. It can also lead to > extreme fragmentation, but that's not much of an issue on flash storage. How about this? /etc/rc.local: -------------- SWAP="/ssdswap" /bin/rm -f $SWAP /bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=$SWAP bs=16m seek=500 count=0 /sbin/mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f $SWAP || /bin/sh /bin/chflags nodump $SWAP /bin/rm $SWAP /sbin/swapctl -a /dev/md0 echo -n " swap" /etc/rc.shutdown.local: ----------------------- /sbin/swapctl -d /dev/md0 > /dev/null 2>&1 /sbin/mdconfig -d -u 0 echo -n " swap" This is an untypical and strange method of creating "swap file on demand" on early SSDs (historically grown), but it works. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 04:28:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22331EB176 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YLQV62mzz44HM for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=q8dV/dIn1gh8s2/rfzwfZ42UDbHmkNkEmPcPu0pA1yM=; b=G/0IRRYbUfNCRA5VgA4ctD5Olu +SM8poleaHD5B9DlGXZ+TYEC5Z2g2moUPtavab8FPkOEHbHfy6BvRgU146Dyhqf9aLtyF5nL+Q2U7 Kc3FhD5pDpSBW5xidYUd43bVe6n9kJ9wHsbSB7GoFLaoTpeJANzym+mAspQd/+LtpiSI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ifG5Z-0002iR-8h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:28:33 +0700 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:28:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java: starting a JNLP file? 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As you > can verify here: >=20 > http://navit.pw/r/CodingHelp/post/d2td3z >=20 > I hope you can get a better solution that you can use openjdk, but I > do not know if it can get it to work. >=20 You mean installing java/linux-oracle-jre18 or java/linux-oracle-jdk18 may help? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJd8cHxAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0B+QH/2sua6ml7GKisr54LgYmdpBj Guzvm7CqpcYJZe3PRldYMwsh7+xLxHB4oCOPfzra8CjhxXtq39xaYpo6IVmXR2PH /s6dnx+I8YINqW+nl2JpM5gtsbRCU1BeWom+T4FGRWS36Xu95wlHt7R1w5C16sSh cNY/qVSih5ONBudNAX5cIqucS59wup+ofXIpOijoJU8W+26IHmq+e8LvwA9QAaFO Ku5+A6CHZXhzgEBuymq0fOEZmHbpy88Y4icI/7jJESQ6c1R+6mbGDoWDBFPubLvL xVl3q1Cs0pYH5FyXgqVGnDXiFkxKEl5jQSVHfxsaKrJR4Zqn3b0FbPQeeYatTyU= =ftVm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 05:11:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B2D1EC419 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YMN71fM2z46hx for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:11:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Adding to a zpool -- different redundancies and risks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6104097C-009B-4E9C-A1D8-A2D0E5FECADF@glasgow.ac.uk> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <09b11639-3303-df6b-f70c-6722caaacee7@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:11:18 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6104097C-009B-4E9C-A1D8-A2D0E5FECADF@glasgow.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47YMN71fM2z46hx X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.65)[ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.65), asn: 6939(-3.54), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; URIBL_RED(3.50)[ixsystems.com.multi.uribl.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.87)[-0.871,0]; HAS_ANON_DOMAIN(0.10)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:11:36 -0000 On 2019-12-11 09:39, Norman Gray wrote: > > Greetings. > > I'd like to add a new VDEV to a pool, and I'm being warned (slightly to > my surprise) that there's a 'mismatched replication level'. I'm trying > to get a sense of how much of a risk I'd be running by forcing this with > -f. > > Context: > > * I currently have two raidz2 VDEVs composed of nine 5.5TB disks > (thus 2 x ~40TB available) > * I'd like to add another raidz2 VDEV composed of six 12TB disks > (thus adding a VDEV of ~48TB, roughly the same size as the other two) -- > this is what prompts the warning about replication level > * The storage is a local mirror which it would be very annoying to > lose, but it's not holding unique copies of anything > * I don't like using -f options unless I'm pretty damn confident I > know what's happening > > (I wouldn't set this up in quite this way from scratch, but this is an > old-ish server, and a small budget windfall has allowed me to max out > the remaining available slots with new disks). > > I can appreciate that the ideal planned setup would, in principle, be to > have all the VDEVs be symmetrical, in terms of size and number of disks. > Is a VDEV mix merely 'not ideal', or 'not great but you'll be fine', > or Bad? > > My mental model of what's going on suggests that, since the pool simply > stripes across the VDEVs, it doesn't have to care how the VDEVs > themselves are structured, so that a 9x5.5 raidz2 and a 6x12 raidz2 > would be roughly equally used, and I can't see why there would be a > performance or a utilisation difference between the two (but I still > count myself as a ZFS tyro). > > I can see that there would be a reliability issue if the various VDEVs > were different sizes of mirrored ones -- this would create different > amounts of resilience, and so the warning makes sense in a 'are you > sure?' way. If the VDEVs were different sizes and the pool was > mirroring over them, then there would obviously be a utilisation issue. > > Though both of [1] and [2] illustrate only mixing VDEVs of the same > type, [2] says merely that 'When using RAIDZ vdevs, it is also a good > idea to keep them at the same width and of the same type.' and > illustrates a 4-wide plus 8-wide raidz2 as 'not horrible'. The forum > post at [3] asks essentially the same question as this email, but > receives a rather oblique answer. The question at [4] gets a confident > answer which I don't _think_ makes complete sense. > > Since [1] and [2] are both more authoritative and match my own > understanding, I'm inclined to believe that adding this new VDEV would > be less than perfect, but reasonable. Am I deceiving myself? > > Thanks for any advice you can offer, > > Norman > > > [1] > https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/slideshow-explaining-vdev-zpool-zil-and-l2arc-for-noobs.7775/ > [2] > https://www.ixsystems.com/community/resources/introduction-to-zfs.111/ > [3] > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/zfs-mismatched-repli-levels.28226/ > [4] https://serverfault.com/questions/522782/zfs-with-unsymmetric-vdevs > Please post: 1 The 'zpool create ...' command you used to create the existing pool. 2. The output of 'zpool status' for the existing pool. 3. The output of 'zpool list' for the existing pool. 4. The 'zpool add ...' command you are contemplating. So, you have 24 drives in a 24 drive cage? What are your space and performance goals? What are your sustainability goals as drives and/or VDEV's fail? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 09:13:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9B01CAFAC for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 09:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oleg@theweb.org.ua) Received: from ns.it.odessa.ua (ns.it.odessa.ua [195.128.182.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47YSkp1PFyz4KDY for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 09:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oleg@theweb.org.ua) Received: from ns.it.odessa.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.it.odessa.ua (Sendmail) with ESMTP id 5A9327CB48A for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:12:59 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at it.odessa.ua Received: from ns.it.odessa.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by ns.it.odessa.ua (ns.it.odessa.ua [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3KuBFmDySETo for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:12:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from asus.theweb.org.ua (unknown [10.146.175.36]) by ns.it.odessa.ua (Sendmail) with SMTP id D91D97CB488 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:12:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from asus.theweb.org.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asus.theweb.org.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBC9Ct8l056162 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:12:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from oleg@theweb.org.ua) Received: (from oleg@localhost) by asus.theweb.org.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xBC9CsmZ056161 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:12:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from oleg@theweb.org.ua) X-Authentication-Warning: asus.theweb.org.ua: oleg set sender to oleg@theweb.org.ua using -f From: "Oleg V. Nauman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java: starting a JNLP file? 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As you > > can verify here: > > > > http://navit.pw/r/CodingHelp/post/d2td3z > > > > I hope you can get a better solution that you can use openjdk, but I > > do not know if it can get it to work. > > You mean installing java/linux-oracle-jre18 or java/linux-oracle-jdk18 > may help? Supermicro IPMI JNLP loader require java/linux-oracle-jdk18 You will need to associate .jnlp with /usr/local/linux-oracle-jdk1.8.0/bin/ javaws From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 11:46:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0FD1CDBCD for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-pl1-x634.google.com (mail-pl1-x634.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::634]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YX7q1bPjz4R6C for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-pl1-x634.google.com with SMTP id d15so493741pll.3 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 03:46:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xybXUl6MUWjlVXGkbHqU9tGPAXsLYcCuJxpWgSzoP5o=; b=OXJ60MxiJ/LYTgMqYlJ9mEJqRzI2/fu6+8L3IQ09YKZNDtg0gDPQi187IZwG+WXnUV 4EQZkAopcg4j7I+rJNSFkHPwiknnOcxxd2T8pA1O0mPyo9QZYakpjnQdorvQQT7s1n2e nLzzIiOzXRR/2EUGEnLtCKaCihACM/6NBe2+M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xybXUl6MUWjlVXGkbHqU9tGPAXsLYcCuJxpWgSzoP5o=; b=WKi1eVt5zxfnHCBYy79ZAwii8piIVF2C+pbbdNYdvsdN5WpqKaXU1fuVyTMdVore6/ 3qHbmXs6M6Hst6PWG0BzzFnDyVf/Fj/N12nBgv2dWkrGoLcOwb5a5L5WXySdLUBKKsXH U743VuBJkL3Z1Sny+mbVWow1QYw0ldcMk+gb9LvMzXdudM514U2RsGQ8HyeqOdrrEmnN +X3OxFWTWbDqB2TGTtKXStoZW2PqNvVdJLUPOnF3qiManjO8ZNsINXaeADqJ4e0SmxIy 7AOoBjdmwPrP2k8RuRa8qo/mr0/Luh/a5nuyHAxuSid934k4XR/I45ZXVaMBm0Eu7HB+ 0iBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWBGe41rzeBEVipx6N8SPAREwZ4em2InM0o5ha19BVKxe8vryQC ROo8MGuLH+oKi2mYBGna+yfIerGagwc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqye6EzV9a3L9IjY/VfbrgsYVC4/B7cFocU/XrY7Rp/T1xstYT4NSpu7Fy0ue6fgJ8gvkNT/cQ== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:fc12:: with SMTP id z18mr7778548qvo.17.1576150866226; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 03:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 63sm1646611qki.57.2019.12.12.03.41.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Dec 2019 03:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47YX1X1nJ9z41Wh for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 06:41:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 06:41:03 -0500 From: "Gerard E. 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I think that the page should be updated with this: The startkde script has been replaced by the native executables startplasma-x11 and startplasma-wayland in 5.17. The ~/.xinitrc file should contain: exec ck-launch-session startplasma-x11kde -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 12:03:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D231CF2AB for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YXWQ6VZwz4SNG for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206B740AA7 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 21:03:20 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=utahime.org; s=maybe2019112701; t=1576152200; bh=4aZcAjTJ/KTv9yYS4Bc11UTlHjCVlWIgH1gdPoKdZng=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References; b=T2K8/oOOhc7WjVbjVd6C+56qNwfBltSmVkAlPk43fttoWfR3NrPbakBP1y2IWG5fQ hP0axCGGKBfEj22QvnaHfJtrhVp7gYsP3VVpxINaZ1mclvwc9Mxs+67ULTSKTOsEd+ Z2J41CkC1XM16fLI4fjMp+fstXdbJZxC+sufRgDB5SgmV1DDyZ9y2rbce0eeQCxaxe jB/tE1Z82etJiq7CzoWySdNIMnhtg7w+ACw/fU+bFIBU34dm+jxU1tAEjS30HxTeMl ouLP1dBfqc42Jj4+S6WAMH++6bGtJ+RUUqBG8N/suA2dJHtuBR2A1q47u+P1ITLNY8 w9kOJdb60WtyQ== Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 696064237A; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 21:03:17 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.1 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 21:02:55 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20191212.210255.698194621371978719.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting KDE From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <20191212063922.0dd8c462@scorpio> References: <20191212063922.0dd8c462@scorpio> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47YXWQ6VZwz4SNG X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:03:32 -0000 From: "Gerard E. Seibert" Subject: Starting KDE Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 06:41:03 -0500 > After spending several exasperation days tring to get kde to run via > "startx", I informed that I needed to have this in the "~/.xinitrc" file > > exec ck-launch-session startplasma-x11 > > There is no mention of this on the FreeBSD > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html site. I think that the > page should be updated with this: > > The startkde script has been replaced by the native executables > startplasma-x11 and startplasma-wayland in 5.17. 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On 12 Dec 2019, at 5:11, David Christensen wrote: > Please post: > > 1 The 'zpool create ...' command you used to create the existing=20 > pool. I don't have a note of the exact command, but it would have been=20 something like zpool create pool raidz2 da{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} raidz2 da9=20 da1{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7} > 2. The output of 'zpool status' for the existing pool. # zpool status pool pool: pool state: ONLINE status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool=20 can still be used, but some features are unavailable. action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM pool ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd032 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd033 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd034 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd035 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd036 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd037 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd038 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd039 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd040 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd041 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd042 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd043 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd044 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd045 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd046 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd047 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd048 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/zd049 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors # (Note: since creating the pool, I realised that gpart labels were a Good=20 Thing, hence exported, labelled, and imported the pool, hence the=20 difference from the da* pool creation). > 3. The output of 'zpool list' for the existing pool. # zpool list pool NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP =20 HEALTH ALTROOT pool 98T 75.2T 22.8T - - 29% 76% 1.00x =20 ONLINE - > 4. The 'zpool add ...' command you are contemplating. # zpool add -n pool raidz2 label/zd05{0,1,2,3,4,5} invalid vdev specification use '-f' to override the following errors: mismatched replication level: pool uses 9-way raidz and new vdev uses=20 6-way raidz The six new disks are 12TB; the 18 original ones 5.5TB. > So, you have 24 drives in a 24 drive cage? That's correct -- the maximum the chassis will take. > What are your space and performance goals? Not very explicit: TB/currency-unit as high as possible. Performance:=20 bottlenecks are likely to be elsewhere (network, processing power) so no=20 stringent requirements. Though this is a fairly general-purpose data=20 store, a large fraction of the datasets on the machine comprise a number=20 of 10GB single files, served via NFS. > What are your sustainability goals as drives and/or VDEV's fail? It doesn't have to be high availability, so if I have a drive failure, I=20 can consider shutting the machine down until a replacement disk arrives=20 and can be resilvered. This is a mirror of data where the masters are=20 elsewhere on the planet, so this machine is 'reliable storage but not=20 backed up' (and the users know this). Thus if I do decide to keep=20 running with one failed disk in one VDEV, and the worst comes to the=20 worst and the whole thing explodes... the world won't end. I will be=20 cross, and users will moan, in either case, but they know this is a=20 problem that can fundamentally be solved with more money. I'm sure I could be more sophisticated about this (and any suggestions=20 are welcome), but unfortunately I don't have as much time to spend on=20 storage problems as I'd like, so I'd like to avoid creating a setup=20 which is smarter than I'm able to fix! Best wishes, Norman --=20 Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 14:14:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB7E1D31F1 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (pyroxene19.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:3::19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "pyroxene2.sentex.ca", Issuer "pyroxene2.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YbQm3NFvz3Cbd for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:507e:da16:9907:fffd] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:507e:da16:9907:fffd]) by pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBCEEdOc026919 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); 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Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:49:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Adding to a zpool -- different redundancies and risks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6104097C-009B-4E9C-A1D8-A2D0E5FECADF@glasgow.ac.uk> <09b11639-3303-df6b-f70c-6722caaacee7@holgerdanske.com> <5A01F7F7-9326-47E2-BA6E-79A7D3F0889A@glasgow.ac.uk> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:49:56 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A01F7F7-9326-47E2-BA6E-79A7D3F0889A@glasgow.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Yyrp6Jvvz4VTN X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.58)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.71), asn: 6939(-3.54), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:50:03 -0000 On 2019-12-12 04:42, Norman Gray wrote: > > David, hello. Hi. :-) > On 12 Dec 2019, at 5:11, David Christensen wrote: > >> Please post: >> >> 1 The 'zpool create ...' command you used to create the existing >> pool. On 2019-12-12 06:33, Norman Gray wrote: > # zpool history pool > History for 'pool': > 2017-08-20.15:45:43 zpool create -m /pool pool raidz2 da2 da3 da4 da5 > da6 da7 da8 da9 da10 raidz2 da11 da12 da13 da14 da15 da16 da17 da18 da19 Okay. On 2019-12-12 04:42, Norman Gray wrote: >> 2. The output of 'zpool status' for the existing pool. > > # zpool status pool > pool: pool > state: ONLINE > status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool > can > still be used, but some features are unavailable. > action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, > the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support > the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > pool ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd032 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd033 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd034 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd035 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd036 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd037 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd038 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd039 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd040 ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz2-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd041 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd042 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd043 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd044 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd045 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd046 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd047 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd048 ONLINE 0 0 0 > label/zd049 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > errors: No known data errors > # > > (Note: since creating the pool, I realised that gpart labels were a Good > Thing, hence exported, labelled, and imported the pool, hence the > difference from the da* pool creation). So, two raidz2 vdev's of nine 5.5 TB drives each, striped into one pool. Each vdev can store 7 * 5.5 = 38.5 TB and the pool can store 38.5 + 38.5 = 77 TB. >> 3. The output of 'zpool list' for the existing pool. > > # zpool list pool > NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP > HEALTH ALTROOT > pool 98T 75.2T 22.8T - - 29% 76% 1.00x > ONLINE - So, your pool is 75.2 TB / 77 TB = 97.7% full. >> 4. The 'zpool add ...' command you are contemplating. > > # zpool add -n pool raidz2 label/zd05{0,1,2,3,4,5} > invalid vdev specification > use '-f' to override the following errors: > mismatched replication level: pool uses 9-way raidz and new vdev uses > 6-way raidz I believe your understanding of the warning is correct -- ZFS is saying that the added raidz2 vdev does not having the same number of drives (six) as the two existing raidz2 vdev's (nine drives each). > The six new disks are 12TB; the 18 original ones 5.5TB. As you stated before. >> So, you have 24 drives in a 24 drive cage? > > That's correct -- the maximum the chassis will take. Okay. >> What are your space and performance goals? > > Not very explicit: TB/currency-unit as high as possible. Performance: > bottlenecks are likely to be elsewhere (network, processing power) so no > stringent requirements. Though this is a fairly general-purpose data > store, a large fraction of the datasets on the machine comprise a number > of 10GB single files, served via NFS. > >> What are your sustainability goals as drives and/or VDEV's fail? > > It doesn't have to be high availability, so if I have a drive failure, I > can consider shutting the machine down until a replacement disk arrives > and can be resilvered. This is a mirror of data where the masters are > elsewhere on the planet, so this machine is 'reliable storage but not > backed up' (and the users know this). Thus if I do decide to keep > running with one failed disk in one VDEV, and the worst comes to the > worst and the whole thing explodes... the world won't end. I will be > cross, and users will moan, in either case, but they know this is a > problem that can fundamentally be solved with more money. > > I'm sure I could be more sophisticated about this (and any suggestions > are welcome), but unfortunately I don't have as much time to spend on > storage problems as I'd like, so I'd like to avoid creating a setup > which is smarter than I'm able to fix! > > Best wishes, > > Norman Okay. I believe that if you gave the -f option to 'zfs add', the six 12 TB drives would be formed into a raidz2 vdev and this new vdev would be striped onto your existing pool. The pool would then have a total capacity of 38.5 + 38.5 + 48 = 125 TB and ZFS would start spreading your data across the three vdev's (potentially improving performance under concurrent workloads). The pool could withstand two drive failures in any single raidz2 vdev, but three drive failures in the same vdev would result in total data loss. That said, read this article: https://jrs-s.net/2015/02/06/zfs-you-should-use-mirror-vdevs-not-raidz/ So: 1. Pair the eighteen 5.5 TB drives into nine 5.5 TB mirrors (49.5 TB). 2. Pair the six 12 TB drives into three 12 TB mirrors (36 TB). 3. Stripe all the mirrors into a pool (85.5 TB). The pool could withstand one drive failure in any single mirror, but two drive failures in the same mirror would result in total data loss. The risk of total loss would be especially apparent from the time a drive fails until the time its replacement is resilvered. AIUI this architecture has another benefit -- incremental pool growth. You replace one 5.5 TB drive in a mirror with a 12 TB drive, resilver, replace the other 5.5 TB drive in the same mirror with another 12 TB drive, resilver, and now the pool is 6.5 TB larger. In the long run, you end up with twenty-four 12 TB drives (144 TB pool). The process could then be repeated (or preempted) using even bigger drives. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 13 08:42:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B19A1E74F6 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Z40b3DsKz3Gcl for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.107.177]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N7zW7-1hayz20gol-0153ms; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 09:42:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 09:42:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Does quotas only work on partitions configured as ufs Message-Id: <20191213094202.295f9510.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5DF2F4F4.2000502@gmail.com> References: <5DF2F4F4.2000502@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:x+ujHhvyQJ0S9u5823s09YzFf9xfy5Iybool9iRtXccQrg3J1Wi YXD+xZFSnihRETawAxwEniiTvQD2dcw+XEtnfeFN4T/in6RR1yIXfHORCpsUCOjnVEkDmQE VkXyjtpA6/aRFQb8QhiGEuAhqWnb8SdO6GXTREbwkru5+/Lfcw1IZ0rG4UuQe4EW1EeSQRI acwozK+Ug4gQEmY1kwJ1Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:HHdy8+kTyQQ=:1HYo9JnFDQOFC3XyvlNGy4 VAWj0lx+HtASEmspRJg0VcxaiOG2n9b/lEGucs58xIJPSKE9eH2to1McZDbcigXBTwbydAVwQ vU1+uGZ0amhRV/AjHt/Lm4/AcopWOhy5J04cBIlWbwxqc68BwwoJaUZNy8XePSARTCgYcB3Jp LKjPE7wYHxO1XmIYJ8tU00hKIPm4PZ67eepjWFzrSHPc/qoJu+y9KtvxBFN+C2k2tGjt2swrn xs9yp9iOY5C3Xz1OcrYhS1s1BrQyOTG5pBFXyZbjgxfut2tH0NLXUyFLRuOHa2sqKBGEz27v/ NXmm9EhbgzzR77nLeD4wZSOscolhUJiEBGPbjRZPERIJT3a8C1jdzsApjw9uO4zr9GAl6lD6S HLPPRKeVPTWM1xhszIfnyj5owMRqvj/G5fX9dupwebAALYZXLiCB++i6b1FW1fm4d/ndFEQGf gT0HRFko3flQlOrsWRmXyEEkJRMRj3wi+H+Mfbc6pYzziTgMLFXLNj7916CNk76MegJ/nIUcy A/O+tyDMGkMHqxa/QaJotvVI5na0F2P0M2NMo8J+i5HBdv3cpCSp0I5d7xQTM1AOjyEaeRU1B Usu75QbRcnzhjZNUX5SV35WYgZrf+Gie71EfCLzBSZtb5EVvyFsKgsPRocpP+yFyxjHqT5Ukv CPRFYCx9TGfsM2NYix2EQiJ7nTZRo5JRGPS7zAjpBCTj9AqA1fGeuh3/FglLWWiM1I9dT6FRi h3C7lKLJTy+itKFafiAi5BEC0kOqTXeK7zKQFHcNA8XdzzpvVdDTy/NXWA+yHemQZXDCOd+8h UnGy651u+wzIdyCi4mSzCyFK1egGKMp15Qpa2q8rl1jeQ+glUqu9NN0z5IN3aVRPpavdDCATh Bjt7Ud9JMlx8fAQokZcw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Z40b3DsKz3Gcl X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.87 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[177.107.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.980,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.983,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (1.43), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.17), asn: 8560(2.28), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:42:08 -0000 On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 21:18:28 -0500, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Does quotas only work on partitions configured as ufs No, you can use quotas as well with ZFS. Also note, as a more general statement: Disk quotas are supported by most modern operating systems, including Unix-like systems, such as AIX (using JFS or JFS2 filesystem), Linux (using ext3, ext4, ext2, XFS (integrated support) among other filesystems), Solaris (using UFS or ZFS), Microsoft Windows starting with Windows 2000, Novell NetWare, VMS, and others. The method of administration for disk quotas varies between each of these operating systems. Unix-like systems typically provide a quota command for both administration and monitoring; graphical front-ends to the command may also be used. Unix and Unix-like operating systems frequently feature a grace period where users may exceed their quota limits for a brief period of time. Windows 2000 and newer versions use the "Quota" tab of the disk properties dialog. Other systems provide their own quota management utilities. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_quota -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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On 13 Dec 2019, at 4:49, David Christensen wrote: > On 2019-12-12 04:42, Norman Gray wrote: > > So, two raidz2 vdev's of nine 5.5 TB drives each, striped into one=20 > pool. Each vdev can store 7 * 5.5 =3D 38.5 TB and the pool can store=20 > 38.5 + 38.5 =3D 77 TB. >>> 3. The output of 'zpool list' for the existing pool. >> >> # zpool list pool >> NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP >> HEALTH ALTROOT >> pool 98T 75.2T 22.8T - - 29% 76% 1.00x >> ONLINE - > > So, your pool is 75.2 TB / 77 TB =3D 97.7% full. Well, I have compression turned on, so I take it that the 98TB quoted=20 here is an estimate of the capacity in that case, and that the 76%=20 capacity quoted in this output is the effective capacity -- ie,=20 alloc/size. The zpool(8) manpage documents these two properties as alloc Amount of storage space within the pool that has been physically allocated. capacity Percentage of pool space used. This property can also=20 be referred to by its shortened column name, "cap". size Total size of the storage pool. The term 'physically allocated' is a bit confusing. I'm guessing that=20 it takes compression into account, rather than bytes-in-sectors. I could be misinterpreting this output, though. >>> 4. The 'zpool add ...' command you are contemplating. >> >> # zpool add -n pool raidz2 label/zd05{0,1,2,3,4,5} >> invalid vdev specification >> use '-f' to override the following errors: >> mismatched replication level: pool uses 9-way raidz and new vdev uses >> 6-way raidz > > I believe your understanding of the warning is correct -- ZFS is=20 > saying that the added raidz2 vdev does not having the same number of=20 > drives (six) as the two existing raidz2 vdev's (nine drives each). > I believe that if you gave the -f option to 'zfs add', the six 12 TB=20 > drives would be formed into a raidz2 vdev and this new vdev would be=20 > striped onto your existing pool. Yes, that's what I'd expect. My concern is about the extent to which I=20 should be comfortable overriding the warning this would give me. My feeling is that I should be comfortable, but as the manpage stresses,=20 there isn't an 'undo', here.... > The pool would then have a total capacity of 38.5 + 38.5 + 48 =3D 125 TB Yes, 125TB raw capacity which, with compression, would translate to some=20 larger amount of effective capacity. > That said, read this article: > > https://jrs-s.net/2015/02/06/zfs-you-should-use-mirror-vdevs-not-raidz/ Thanks for the reminder of this. I'm familiar with that article, and=20 it's an interesting point of view. I don't find it completely=20 convincing, though, since I'm not convinced that the speed of=20 resilvering fully compensates for the less than 100% probability of=20 surviving two disk failures. In the last couple of years I've had=20 problems with water ingress over a rack, and with a failed AC which=20 baked a room, so that failure modes which affect multiple disks=20 simultaneously are fairly prominent in my thinking about this sort of=20 issue. Poisson failures are not the only mode to worry about! > AIUI this architecture has another benefit -- incremental pool growth.=20 > You replace one 5.5 TB drive in a mirror with a 12 TB drive, resilver,=20 > replace the other 5.5 TB drive in the same mirror with another 12 TB=20 > drive, resilver, and now the pool is 6.5 TB larger. In the long run,=20 > you end up with twenty-four 12 TB drives (144 TB pool). The process=20 > could then be repeated (or preempted) using even bigger drives. What you say is true, and attractive in principle, but I think I'm=20 unlikely to (want to) grow storage in that way in practice. 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Yesterday we pulled some dead drives from the ZFS pools and replaced them with new drives intended to become spares. After powering the system back up, it looks like the boot volume has been renumbered from da0 to da4. I thought renumbering like this wasn't supposed to happen for at least the last decade, since ATA_STATIC_ID was introduced to the kernel, but there's little doubt that's what's happened. Automatic boot now fails and drops to the third stage loader prompt when the kernel tries to mount the root volume from ufs:/dev/da0p2. I can manually try to mount the root volume as ufs:/dev/da4p2, and the system begins to load the root volume, but then hangs. The only two lines printed after loading da4 are related to loading up the ZFS pools. I can't reproduce the messages again now (explained below), so quoting them verbatim isn't possible, but they're related to the ZFS version being behind and suggesting I upgrade the pools. The messages themselves are not unusual,and I'm used to seeing similar messages in the 'zpool status' output for a while now. What is unusual is that the system seems to hang at this point. I'm concerned that the re-ordering of drives might be causing problems for the system trying to put the ZFS pools back together. I don't really know, though. Does anyone have any insight into what's going on here? There is a new wrinkle... since booting from a USB stick so that I could get into the box and double-check some things, and confirm the location of the root volume, the BIOS no longer seems to see da4 as a potential boot volume. I'm hoping that goes back to the way it was once the USB stick is removed. At the moment I have no way to even get the box to try/fail to boot from its normal boot volume. The machine is many thousands of miles remote, so I haven't tried to do this yet... I can invoke some remote help once that's necessary. BIOS issue aside, I'm hoping there's a way I can pin this drive back to da0. I don't know how that could be done, but if anyone has any suggestions I'd happily try them. Failing that, I suppose I can just insert a vfs.root.mountfrom option in loader.conf. Can anyone clue me into what's happening here, or suggest some further troubleshooting that will help me gain some insight? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 13 21:38:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09221D79AF for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from keymaster.local (ns1.xn--wesstrm-f1a.se [IPv6:2a00:d880:5:1b9::8526]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz", Issuer "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZPDt3Fx6z4Xtm for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from [192.168.69.69] ([192.168.69.69]) by keymaster.local (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBDLcjBW001548 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:38:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=c3=b6m?= Message-ID: <28a92269-832b-61d0-3d25-68be2439dd9c@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:38:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZPDt3Fx6z4Xtm X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:d880:5:1b9::8526) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 198203(-0.17), country: NL(0.02)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.13)[0.129,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.66)[0.661,0]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[keymaster.local]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[keymaster.local]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198203, ipnet:2a00:d880::/32, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pp.dyndns.biz]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:38:55 -0000 On 2019-12-13 21:57, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > After powering the system back up, it looks > like the boot volume has been renumbered from da0 to da4. > > There is a new wrinkle... since booting from a USB stick so that I could > get into the box and double-check some things, and confirm the location of > the root volume, the BIOS no longer seems to see da4 as a potential boot > volume. First thing I would check is the SATA controller mode in BIOS and make sure it didn't switch from AHCI to IDE/Legacy/RAID (or whatever you used to run it as). This assuming the SSD is connected to the mainboard controller of course. I'm not saying this is what happened but at least we could get that possibility out of the way. 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This assuming the SSD is connected to the mainboard > controller of course. > The SSD is on the mainboard controller. I have no idea what the SATA controller's original mode was, but just now it was set to IDE. I tried switching it to AHCI, but that didn't improve anything, and generated a new "AHCI BIOS not installed" error during boot, so I switched it back to IDE. Either of the RAID settings seem like bad choices, since I want direct access to the physical drives for ZFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 13 22:31:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89FE1D8BC1 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from keymaster.local (ns1.xn--wesstrm-f1a.se [81.4.102.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz", Issuer "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZQP03rKKz4bR7 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from [192.168.69.69] ([192.168.69.69]) by keymaster.local (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBDMTaEI001719 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:29:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28a92269-832b-61d0-3d25-68be2439dd9c@pp.dyndns.biz> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=c3=b6m?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:29:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZQP03rKKz4bR7 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz has no SPF policy when checking 81.4.102.176) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 198203(-0.17), country: NL(0.02)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.267,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.71)[0.714,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pp.dyndns.biz]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[keymaster.local]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198203, ipnet:81.4.100.0/22, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[keymaster.local]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:31:01 -0000 > The SSD is on the mainboard controller. I have no idea what the SATA > controller's original mode was, but just now it was set to IDE. I tried > switching it to AHCI, but that didn't improve anything, and generated a new > "AHCI BIOS not installed" error during boot, so I switched it back to IDE. > Either of the RAID settings seem like bad choices, since I want direct > access to the physical drives for ZFS. I've seen systems that emulate 2-port master/slave controllers in IDE/Legacy mode and renumber drives differently in that mode than in AHCI mode. That BIOS setting only affects the mainboard controller and with a 24 disk ZFS pool I assume those disks are connected to some other controller. Regardless, I'd stay away from the RAID mode too though since there's a risk of overwriting some sectors of your system disk. It would've be interesting to know if that setting has changed though... Is there any indication that the BIOS settings were reset during the disk swap? (Date/time being way off for example). Did you verify that the SSD is still connected to the lowest numbered port? ATA_STATIC_ID was removed back in 2015 if I remember correctly so unless you run an ancient FreeBSD version I wouldn't rely on that mechanism. Perhaps you can tell us what kind of system this is in case someone on the list has a similar system and know its quirks. Also, if you're running a GENERIC kernel or not. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 13 23:26:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02FA1D9CF6 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@conundrum.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x22b.google.com (mail-lj1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZRcs5c05z4f4Y for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@conundrum.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id m6so491045ljc.1 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:26:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=conundrum-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=57NJUXU/Zb5iMeXAn48dC7M8cZObn8vWc6uFyMFuSS4=; b=kD1aAgNOOOhv7UsyHLcWv+AkIdRSEoBHV/CFxBvUgAB8SV613fw2WG+xyxw8RP5ZhO pV5eloM5rsfTQbT1nCKYW8pW12xSoPKOWco/zeNlg/1QOUt4BAjYXXNsA0p0HSc2wqZZ ltuT6p7haxuAfNTWIEbokvLMdcMiFZP9FZSfXzU+8BlXKmjlld04YwNe/7mhy+5DlZlR t0rQlQ8mlkZ1HA1uehYHpK97Z+Nfqv3/418//rDpKtjpO82lFtG5fWJcSYN9KTrHSiYJ FHGlO9xupuim8AOGEGDJxB9KhdpbN0v6da0udrj+FMMnpBXwLx+H88oHOJqOPqZUl2NZ rzRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=57NJUXU/Zb5iMeXAn48dC7M8cZObn8vWc6uFyMFuSS4=; b=JywTgHz2NY48ZfNMeyK1dMKFz2cPkM/VqrxIaNyiYfmFPRJo9p2aRQgBYB8qJoXysP 5rlASq2YeQ6rDBrnFRQEjwDpHTD/ELh9NXziKfaD4GzqOXjueceCdIXkozh0kU1W74mH XA+j0JH3qjcCSRLwYRYRVU5wuDj1sM0+ovCLnuNoNQXMzCdXIspkxlBO6PEw7rqbJdM6 MofBULticuYVoBUNZ6Ym9eK1e3JGTgUIPwB9yaKwnd4eKchn4eeEJN6efkrwAe3orVBZ 7oKBrB5m304nFZURmSuiAy7boG+u+v9WNAXbtao4INOyzirPF50+cRdg2+rHDZqFF6rM qD2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWhKRr3N9qwD3XoRM4SkwsKvB9MWgX+qtT2mx2T1wTohxwmRS7u bCCcviPCSPxuKsa+6HKbCGPRem53f1WiVE8ecHXseNZttOe8LA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwswmzPCvOQlfAmwMkNq5dMK5TOwu2H+ry734VXtvKXShsZUSn6DPlO6oghxxmAlCZYgH5jt+TLMcOh5Zxwags= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:6f19:: with SMTP id k25mr11041761ljc.84.1576279579701; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:26:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28a92269-832b-61d0-3d25-68be2439dd9c@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: From: Matthew Pounsett Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZRcs5c05z4f4Y X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=conundrum-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=kD1aAgNO; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of matt@conundrum.com has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::22b) smtp.mailfrom=matt@conundrum.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[conundrum-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[conundrum.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[conundrum-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.79)[ip: (-9.32), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.67), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:26:22 -0000 On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 17:31, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m < freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz> wrote: > > The SSD is on the mainboard controller. I have no idea what the SATA > > controller's original mode was, but just now it was set to IDE. I trie= d > > switching it to AHCI, but that didn't improve anything, and generated a > new > > "AHCI BIOS not installed" error during boot, so I switched it back to > IDE. > > Either of the RAID settings seem like bad choices, since I want direct > > access to the physical drives for ZFS. > > I've seen systems that emulate 2-port master/slave controllers in > IDE/Legacy mode and renumber drives differently in that mode than in > AHCI mode. > Yeah.. I didn't see any difference moving back and forth though. > > That BIOS setting only affects the mainboard controller and with a 24 > disk ZFS pool I assume those disks are connected to some other > controller. Regardless, I'd stay away from the RAID mode too though > since there's a risk of overwriting some sectors of your system disk. It > would've be interesting to know if that setting has changed though... > 48 disks, actually. :) Half of those are on an external JBOD connected via an LSI FC controller. This server is significantly older than my association with it, so I'm uncertain about how the internal 24 drives are connected. If it helps, dmesg only reports ses0 and ses1 drivers. The boot disk and the first 24 ZFS drives are all on ses0. I think that implies only two controllers in use, not three. Is there any indication that the BIOS settings were reset during the > disk swap? (Date/time being way off for example). None that I can see. And, da4 vanished from the BIOS list of bootable devices several reboots after powering the machine back on, so I don't have any reason to think that was directly related to powering the machine off, or to the drive reordering. Its disappearance was coincident with booting the system off a USB installer, but timing is the only connection I can think of between those two things. Before anyone goes there... I did not start the installer, so I have no reason to think it has modified da4's MBR. I'm only booting off that stick to get to a usable shell. The only symptom of a problem that resulted during the power-off/drive swap was that da0 moved to da4 in the first place, and that trying to boot ufs:/dev/da4p2 from the boot prompt seems to fail. > Did you verify that > the SSD is still connected to the lowest numbered port? ATA_STATIC_ID > was removed back in 2015 if I remember correctly so unless you run an > ancient FreeBSD version I wouldn't rely on that mechanism. > Was it? Okay.. I checked the options file in the 11.2 source code earlier today and it still appears in that file, so I thought it was still in use. I haven't had cause to manually compile a kernel since about 2009, so I'm a bit out of date on what the options are. The boot drive wasn't moved... it's mounted inside the chassis, and we were swapping drives in the front-facing array of the JBOD (not even in the main chassis). So, at least physically, it's still connected to the same port. Looks like I was wrong about it being an SSD, but I think that's beside the point. dmesg currently reports the following things about da4 (hand-retyped, not cut and pasted, because I'm on a Java console): ses0: da4,pass4: Element descriptor: 'Slot 01' ses0: da4,pass4: SAS Device Slot Element: 1 Phys at Slot 0 > > Perhaps you can tell us what kind of system this is in case someone on > the list has a similar system and know its quirks. Also, if you're > running a GENERIC kernel or not. > Ah, sorry. I thought I mentioned that this is running 11.2-p7 GENERIC. I apparently forgot to mention the generic part. It has been progressively upgraded over the years. My guess is that the last time it saw a completely fresh install was sometime around the 9.x era, but that's just a guess. The system mainboard is a Supermicro X8DT3. The BIOS is significantly out of date (1.1 dated 2010.. current is 2.2) but we haven't had any BIOS related issues to cause us to want to update. More=E2=80=94possibly relevant=E2=80=94hand transcribing from dmesg: mps0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xfae3c000-0xfa3ffff,0xfae40000-0xfae7ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 mpt0: port 0xfc000-0xc0ff mem 0xfabec000-0xfabeffff,xfabf0000-0xfabfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci5 ses0: Fixed Enclosure Services SPC-3 SCSI device ses1: Fixed Enclosure Services SPC-3 SCSI device From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 04:12:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9F71E1162 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZYz41rLMz3R2l for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=1571uyWsxGwOzzPPknLA4CWTbEUeI8xBvf7uyh6ZggY=; b=oI/CZ9jzTbKJ6gPE99yw9sxARi 9eQdBzWM+9cCqaci77t191GIEIcmO6POIHoz4OwpM5JMkia/MDmyAXpucP2LW7baGyCDh3CAMgCv1 MomFsCAmSRjoQxisK/K6Wei8PHmXhcaXKohux52Tjb8a9Ar7qV9tPjcg5IoGqe8sUEtA=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ifyn2-0002bg-Iw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:12:24 +0700 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:12:24 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox, X11 fonts and 2gis Message-ID: <20191214041224.GA9787@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191201040730.GA55403@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191201183701.58e3fff1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191202130934.GA12388@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191202184502.5b1defc7@demon> <20191202165730.GB18034@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191202220839.5fcc657e@demon> <20191203130003.GA48268@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191203195701.162f0002@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191203195701.162f0002@demon> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZYz41rLMz3R2l X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=oI/CZ9jz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.39)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-2.10), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:12:33 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dmn wrote: >=20 >=20 > There are many things to try to narrow down the list of possible > suspects. After some radical changes in the system I'm seeing the text on the map all right. Now I'm not even sure I want to know what the cause of the problem was, but the changes included: 1. Upgrading from 11.3 to 12.1 2. Upgrading all packages 3. Switching from /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko to graphics/drm-legacy-kmod 4. Switching from Mate to Xfce. Somewhere on this path the problem lay. I made no changes to my shell, locale, firefox settings. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJd9GEoAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0sT0H/1maRis9PP+OrShmyOJEPd0+ TcnJ+oag14Kbz0qgRvUbMBHxHBdxlI+p2ETZKokMJa5XMIpEuf59OoaBwjWMYb/i rdHbrFLStLxOecFrZuTHPv2+Kf0g5rm5eztRj5fGgX2fneyF1qH77yXHmHAxU3KP kkxsg1xWPueqtM+RsxeUurikxIfIINcG/Qr0yWitiU8xcgL0zHpEuqgqfGYyDxkM I/35mQeWzR2HMcv9aPxKfgOvAxMw/FnGSxOlMYUbq81KP/1UHQNoOCgot34bhw+E ekE6jvQ4h+0whrGW0G6Qlbi89mPLZcBchWHLGtnEPPymaPDDdHtkb8YTvq/OwKc= =pjWd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 07:09:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135EC1E4144 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zdtn0B7Bz43lG for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:08:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:08:56 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Zdtn0B7Bz43lG X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.65)[ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.66), asn: 6939(-3.55), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:09:06 -0000 On 2019-12-13 12:57, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > We have a large-ish FreeBSD 11.2-p7 file server with two 24-disk > ZFS pools (20 live 4 spares each) and a single SSD boot volume. > Yesterday we pulled some dead drives from the ZFS pools and replaced > them with new drives intended to become spares. After powering the > system back up, it looks like the boot volume has been renumbered > from da0 to da4. > > I thought renumbering like this wasn't supposed to happen for at > least the last decade, since ATA_STATIC_ID was introduced to the > kernel, but there's little doubt that's what's happened. > > Automatic boot now fails and drops to the third stage loader prompt > when the kernel tries to mount the root volume from ufs:/dev/da0p2. I > can manually try to mount the root volume as ufs:/dev/da4p2, and the > system begins to load the root volume, but then hangs. The only two > lines printed after loading da4 are related to loading up the ZFS > pools. I can't reproduce the messages again now (explained below), > so quoting them verbatim isn't possible, but they're related to the > ZFS version being behind and suggesting I upgrade the pools. The > messages themselves are not unusual,and I'm used to seeing similar > messages in the 'zpool status' output for a while now. What is > unusual is that the system seems to hang at this point. I'm > concerned that the re-ordering of drives might be causing problems > for the system trying to put the ZFS pools back together. I don't > really know, though. Does anyone have any insight into what's going > on here? > > There is a new wrinkle... since booting from a USB stick so that I > could get into the box and double-check some things, and confirm the > location of the root volume, the BIOS no longer seems to see da4 as > a potential boot volume. I'm hoping that goes back to the way it > was once the USB stick is removed. At the moment I have no way to > even get the box to try/fail to boot from its normal boot volume. > The machine is many thousands of miles remote, so I haven't tried to > do this yet... I can invoke some remote help once that's necessary. > > BIOS issue aside, I'm hoping there's a way I can pin this drive back > to da0. I don't know how that could be done, but if anyone has any > suggestions I'd happily try them. Failing that, I suppose I can just > insert a vfs.root.mountfrom option in loader.conf. > > Can anyone clue me into what's happening here, or suggest some > further troubleshooting that will help me gain some insight? > > Thanks! On 2019-12-13 13:57, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > The SSD is on the mainboard controller. I have no idea what the SATA > controller's original mode was, but just now it was set to IDE. I > tried switching it to AHCI, but that didn't improve anything, and > generated> a new "AHCI BIOS not installed" error during boot, so I > switched it back to IDE. Either of the RAID settings seem like bad > choices, since I want direct access to the physical drives for ZFS. On 2019-12-13 15:26, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > 48 disks, actually. :) Half of those are on an external JBOD > connected via an LSI FC controller. This server is significantly > older than my association with it, so I'm uncertain about how the > internal 24 drives are connected. If it helps, dmesg only reports > ses0 and ses1 drivers. The boot disk and the first 24 ZFS drives > are all on ses0. I think that implies only two controllers in use, > not three. One of my favorite Debian tricks is to keep my system drive images smaller than 16.0E+09 bytes, partition my system drives with MBR, have an unencrypted boot partition, an encrypted swap partition, and an encrypted root partition. I can then dd the raw system drive image between HDD's, SSD's, and USB drives, select the boot drive in BIOS, power up, and the system boots the system using the new device. My guess is that this works because I use UUID's in /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab, GRUB reads that information when it is configured/ reconfigured, and GRUB puts that information into /boot/initrd.img-* for use by GRBU during subsequent boots (?). When I tried the above with FreeBSD. swap and root were not found if the system drive device node changes when I dd the image to another device. Apparently, FreeBSD uses device node names in /boot/loader.conf. The work-around is to boot an installer or live disk/memstick to a shell, mount the system drive boot filesystem, and edit /boot/loader.conf; changing the old device node names to the new device node names. As I use ZFS, I also found it was necessary to move aside /boot/zfs/zpoolcache. Perhaps if your edited /boot/loader.conf on your system drive, changed the 'da0' entries to 'da4', moved aside /boot/zfs/zpoolcache, and configured your BIOS to boot from da4, the system would boot. Alternatively, put an HBA into the machine, connect the system drive to it, and hope the drive comes up as da0. (AIUI FreeBSD will scan all the other drives, look for ZFS signatures/ metadata, and assemble your pool(s) regardless of device node names). David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 07:54:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3CD1E4F40 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZfvR0ttpz45fY for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:54:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Adding to a zpool -- different redundancies and risks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6104097C-009B-4E9C-A1D8-A2D0E5FECADF@glasgow.ac.uk> <09b11639-3303-df6b-f70c-6722caaacee7@holgerdanske.com> <5A01F7F7-9326-47E2-BA6E-79A7D3F0889A@glasgow.ac.uk> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:54:39 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZfvR0ttpz45fY X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.65)[ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.66), asn: 6939(-3.55), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:54:43 -0000 On 2019-12-13 06:49, Norman Gray wrote: > > David, hello. > > On 13 Dec 2019, at 4:49, David Christensen wrote: > >> On 2019-12-12 04:42, Norman Gray wrote: >>> # zpool list pool >>> NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP >>> HEALTH ALTROOT >>> pool 98T 75.2T 22.8T - - 29% 76% 1.00x >>> ONLINE - >> >> So, your pool is 75.2 TB / 77 TB = 97.7% full. > > Well, I have compression turned on, so I take it that the 98TB quoted > here is an estimate of the capacity in that case, and that the 76% > capacity quoted in this output is the effective capacity -- ie, > alloc/size. > > The zpool(8) manpage documents these two properties as > > alloc Amount of storage space within the pool that has been > physically allocated. > > capacity Percentage of pool space used. This property can also > be > referred to by its shortened column name, "cap". > > size Total size of the storage pool. > > The term 'physically allocated' is a bit confusing. I'm guessing that > it takes compression into account, rather than bytes-in-sectors. > > I could be misinterpreting this output, though. I believe the 'SIZE 98T' corresponds to eighteen 5.5 TB drives. My bad -- I agree the 'CAP 76%' should be correct and my '97.7% full' calculation is wrong. I use the following command to get compression information: # zfs get -t filesystem compressratio | grep POOLNAME I am still trying to understand how to reconcile 'zpool list', 'zfs list', etc., against df(1) and du(1). >> https://jrs-s.net/2015/02/06/zfs-you-should-use-mirror-vdevs-not-raidz/ > > Thanks for the reminder of this. I'm familiar with that article, and > it's an interesting point of view. I don't find it completely > convincing, though, since I'm not convinced that the speed of > resilvering fully compensates for the less than 100% probability of > surviving two disk failures. I haven't done the benchmarking to find out, but I have read similar assertions and recommendations elsewhere. STFW might yield data to support or refuse the claims. > In the last couple of years I've had > problems with water ingress over a rack, and with a failed AC which > baked a room, so that failure modes which affect multiple disks > simultaneously are fairly prominent in my thinking about this sort of > issue. Poisson failures are not the only mode to worry about! Agreed. I am working towards implementing offsite scheduled replication. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 08:01:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2013B1E59B6 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zg336dNpz46JG for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail21.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.21]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 878FBE0006 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:01:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:31:16 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: I apologise ... 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I apologise, it was born out of frustration on witnessing the capabilities provided by Clear Linux OS. I have realised that I still prefer FreeBSD, not just for it's sane environment, but primarily for this community. Again, I am really sorry, hope I can be forgiven and re-accepted by the community. Best regards, ~Mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 09:37:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281D41E7730; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 09:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd44.google.com (mail-io1-xd44.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZjBL1hBJz4B6Y; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 09:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd44.google.com with SMTP id b10so2117202iof.11; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 01:37:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zFZkwarJMWjbyoRI5fF1qWQHQuEPjbXGULFsJk/sI7Q=; b=uZYLFloLtV31wiB9bRF6XM2SsUO9jR3Jtbz6RW6tRAiEAjsjrlcpBfFo4sim2c8aXb Nkp9MYcvAIr9E0rBTzicccceo3K+t3Zc2yopwNdMqXsO/9VrlPpA5jXVElpUYjWYpWeT VLUxyfTs+g1s4qnPWhH+fVOpABJQh4V+U9t3rW6QAHG1U/hzI0URyNMIX7VlaA2r7au+ s7BWOeoieUL1WsqNeqt0sGZSuv+bHgSUfNdL+3y9WnwLbTbgVWEzEHr9/wjIeBVjIYV6 l33qo4u1KYDosLxP2RgPcARpoBMCdinLRmbTmSiCHTq4T1CcG78wvl/BWWRgsBlm32K7 tTfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zFZkwarJMWjbyoRI5fF1qWQHQuEPjbXGULFsJk/sI7Q=; b=Fepwt8C+E2qnmvKughbX+r5AmLDEAmbghMc+LLFm8rg+L+QyB685xXbPYmAW+ffvtM o4FCLov9OffRzHR3RcExTRTF8rsdtLSxS/PhKUlvvyKg6blDrqbBQjzjNl5D95Z6Sm46 l0Jeu6RfH4n6VhWRT4jghE7jIcRtq4j554w/76NfLfh0YSYxCtXAU8Bc36AR66IcmE6w WUqoWZX4kJJCTa8IzABrLk0Kfd5Dc5DxJfa8qo4KiRWzAyFfXT1+S97erm9eN54QoKds eq4+pMN7bmIX3uy5OKv8gw9LvsSUqVThjWpocFvtzK/lmmFALWXfij4es7/OHYEcL1Xv rWMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUwSBs6mPgUwgfYq1bmadj6kNRE9HgsZXGkUUJMtxs99raMgKSd 59KzbW1enQlWStAAEG/Kq+uxKkmMBNhW//Zp0Tdf/xsG X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyAMPK0kjushSqYG5oVkJ9KQnXS6a0vmPafACdtkDsKBS6QiX5NFJmgcuZSutg/Q+UB4Dh1TURyxgim1imFk7o= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6e02:: with SMTP id d2mr11392404ioh.22.1576316264575; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 01:37:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6638:210:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 01:37:44 -0800 (PST) From: grarpamp Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:37:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Cryptocurrency: BSD's need more wallet ports To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: info@freebsdfoundation.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZjBL1hBJz4B6Y X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=uZYLFloL; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d44 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.4.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.20), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 09:37:47 -0000 Many BSD users follow cryptocurrencies, and would have interest in testing, learning, supporting, and transacting, already have holdings on other OS but might prefer BSD for various reasons over say Windows and Phones, would like to send and receive donations, support development, grow the ecosystems, etc... Yet they can't because there are no wallet and node ports available for many of the most popular coins on BSD. If you're able to contribute to making ports available, that would help grow and enable the intersection of BSD and crypto communities. Obviously such efforts would provide more funding options and exposure for FreeBSD, and bring some of the BSD experience to the coin world. Missing ports (among many others)... Bitcoin_Cash-BCH <-- very popular top five coin with no BSD wallet https://www.bitcoincash.org/wallets.html https://www.bitcoinabc.org/ Zcash-ZEC Bitcoin_SV-BSV Cardano-ADA Grin-GRIN Dash-DASH Beam-BEAM Maker-MKR Decred-DCR Bitcoin_Gold-BTG Dogecoin-DOGE Horizen-ZEN Ravencoin-RVN DigixDAO-DGD Augur-REP Tron-TRX EOS-EOS NEO-NEO XRP-XRP Verge-XVG etc, no particular order, lots to choose from... If you're looking for random potential ports to work on, try sorting by mktcap, price, or volume and click through to each project's homepage and repo, check news and social sites, etc... https://www.coingecko.com/ https://coinmarketcap.com/ https://cryptocurrencynews.com/ https://www.coindesk.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptocurrency/ Announcing new wallet, node, and client software ports on the respective coin's community boards may earn you some coin donations too :) Same for upstreaming patches. Some coins already have Linux wallets you can pull work from. Present (in various state of support or choice of wallet)... Cryptos: bitcoin - core, electrum ethereum - go, parity <-- more wallets could be ported https://ethereum.org/use/ https://docs.ethhub.io/using-ethereum/wallets/desktop/ litecoin monero <-- a GUI client is available if users want that https://web.getmonero.org/downloads/ namecoin qtum zetacoin Hardware wallets: keepkey ledger trezor Fun tools: QtBitcoinTrader cointop This is neither advertisement, shill, advice, correct, nor exhaustive post, so no need to go there. Keep it to porting apps for BSD users. Prune and direct replies to whatever is most suitable list. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 10:05:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE07D1C865F for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from keymaster.local (ns1.xn--wesstrm-f1a.se [81.4.102.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz", Issuer "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zjns22ybz4CxV for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from [192.168.69.69] ([192.168.69.69]) by keymaster.local (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBEA3jxc004426 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:03:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28a92269-832b-61d0-3d25-68be2439dd9c@pp.dyndns.biz> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=c3=b6m?= Message-ID: <7a20b370-6dac-3caf-3f45-fe485c56b372@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:03:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Zjns22ybz4CxV X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz has no SPF policy when checking 81.4.102.176) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.06 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 198203(-0.17), country: NL(0.02)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.18)[0.179,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.71)[0.712,0]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[keymaster.local]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[keymaster.local]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198203, ipnet:81.4.100.0/22, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pp.dyndns.biz]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:05:06 -0000 > 48 disks, actually. :) Half of those are on an external JBOD connected > via an LSI FC controller. This server is significantly older than my > association with it, so I'm uncertain about how the internal 24 drives are > connected. If it helps, dmesg only reports ses0 and ses1 drivers. The > boot disk and the first 24 ZFS drives are all on ses0. I think that > implies only two controllers in use, not three. > Yeah, I see now that your mainboard has a SAS controller in addition to the Intel ICH10 controller. That BIOS setting I suggested would only affect disks attached to the Intel controller. The SAS controller should have it's own option BIOS settings, available through some key combo during boot. I have no experience with these controllers though so I couldn't tell if something in their settings suddenly made them report disks in a different order. Hopefully someone who knows how they work will read this and help you. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 10:18:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708271C8A3F for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zk5p4fm5z4DJy for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: u7xsasMVM1mFAfn8zII0bVhmDRbjPdmjjXtj6U5Q0dUmkJR1KHeJSPqjSib6XH0 Jl3jh2Cg57ZZmw0rJsGXheTk4QUV4_BqnMBACiJlemWERWEom.zDA4.6jjN44Tx8y5_LIBkA487H wY26uMKfGTSoA9gN2.aZVwvz8nzOfMdfD2iBkWuxDNbxpf4wOaPiga4nPzLr9rsPi5g2zcHl1gJc kWovfoOn2Y3fnO2X9Yun7Mo9wXJFQuT7lD_JB_hUDytS_49cvjCKt3KDtlDOQG68SkWjYQZSYCQv TJqlmQTym8094GQmy22qlBLS_mIGdsq9BsMdZDHZyUrbk2HkAqyGWcobIGZoDQLrLBXlzDlVAxii lGv0lNEMpt0FUHbXdAApY_mSySJA.iWBx4nIauQ5ozejBDyUosk2aFSX2yRTANaiM79tqBwEDLPz FOSC.M3tBAceSuRIa3wPe96Kx.Skz35XtVSEPRx1yau6J.893sopCsWbt2ipI5EUQIybN2gcHpeT WMH.llOKc5V17stu8ImSreRNfXXHft4xx3ODJX5_9eeNsvXPbnxO__kLkM0LfGqGNHgp53HbSChF DB.aNu9I.R36Negvz1tVdfpWQFm__VabyWfEra7KDUQT8yZFPBJGzlZwUkZJv_t3DfAXGEP.DHJv RNyeAhKglEYdS6jFQ7Mq32LgiQrkmWuf7ZARMGA_1KXSOYDN28Ozp8ZsSMN9U_sy0M.rdti4.4dw hKGrpb6uPbc3DwlS0PHX2li0aqEDbRZzn3LRJdRZzkE5v12Joy2CTSmromD9d72XLyimpBjkdbsd vPbY2z8D0X2V.GYQiG1gJIr3lVIX.dFkQ9PkjcRpat3EqgQRSKeTP50EySfbI6hLWkqY0nBvKS00 ZyJucXWeqqDsfQDQwzd7EJiuYPurGHJV51hynOrsAL_b5HrO7se0qUmP.7JWDrz3ET36ABZpxchj DEthqp4YkFpw3fnGVuxARazPPzQd1RNQaivy5gIOnTxQrzQjBnlsoklhjZFJE9y.rY11ojr1LvjB mmT5ZiIQFCuKRGh41BJcPUfda43lLBwbaJfqE1EK.pK_0wyQI7Zv.Vul5eCn_gY8y9RJDvhF9__n 3x1SYOXxqBMWcrJD1ZH1LbmiigjKS_Cb1il.8ckXxfgvfUyWt45FCr5bMk_UaDBDVFeKadWoXIhh ue4Po_4YlNiI4BFKOoKCuUqkBlhHkihpw5KrxtjUCJoYnUck7ih6_BX.AOrZ7x_RrdARp82QB8eb eCQQOhY9whCLb2Qo_AzBVvscAS4jh6ZqToCz_7.QCD8cjE1S8UTf_Pf9eRuGEQMFfW6Fmo7PEmsy difROdtNyR3dHlHWbXgPOUgp_14eCa7i5LvS5ZuWVQAlVSQePDA3nW.286wTK0plz8moJz6zH_De gVkeeLZs- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:18:51 +0000 Received: by smtp406.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 72c5c83079d087a8254ea63fcd2b9d7e; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:18:57 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... Message-ID: <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Zk5p4fm5z4DJy X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.21)[-0.214,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.28)[-0.276,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[201.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (7.23), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.25), asn: 34010(1.78), country: GB(-0.08)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[201.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:18:56 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:31:16 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >Twitter Twitter? You probably need to come to terms with yourself (and nobody else) regarding Twitter ;). Who cares about rants that nobody reached? Btw. I'm unable to find one operating system, that fits to all of my needs. IMO the one in all approach is a pitfall, many people probably need to use different operating systems for different tasks. Do we offend a toaster, if we use a knife instead of this toaster to spread butter on a slice of bread? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 11:48:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C331CAB62 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zm4x5gxRz4JHF for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.223.163.143]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mtf39-1hr0YH3NhX-00v5O3; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:10 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... 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I'm unable to find one operating system, that fits to all of my > needs. IMO the one in all approach is a pitfall, many people probably > need to use different operating systems for different tasks. Even though FreeBSD is a multi-purpose operating system - it can be used as a workstation, as a server, for embedded devices, or in "combined forms" -, it doesn't unify all those different purposes in _one_ form. FreeBSD should therefore be seen as a foundation, not as a "one size fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", which it isn't, and which _no_ OS, despite imaginable claims, is. To expect (!) something different than this fact is absolute nonsense. Operating systems, such as application programs, serve specific purposes, and what you need to use depends on what you want to do. You cannot edit videos with a word processor, nor can you manage your bank accounts with a typesetting system. Accepting this truth is an important step to overcome the "But on the box it says..." illusions of marketing (typically ads and FUD). In Linux land, the attitude is a bit different, so this might often lead to confusion (which is basically understandable): Different distributions have different goals. While they share the same kernel and most basic components, the bundled applications are selected and suited (!) for a specific (!!!) purpose, and trying to do something completely different with them will usually lead to disappointment, grief, and anger; i. e., while a multimedia-centered distribution is very good at doing things in that field, it utterly fails at being a server. Linux also does not have the strict libe between "the OS" (the foundation, as mentioned above), and "3rd party software". The choice of _what_ is part of the distribution will be made by the maintainers of the distribution, often with a specific target audience in mind. The result is obvious - dedicated tools fitting specific needs. FreeBSD as the OS (!) works different. It is not Linux. It does not want to be Linux. And that's totally fine, if you ask me. > Do we offend a toaster, if we use a knife instead of this toaster to > spread butter on a slice of bread? Not until the toaster becomes a Cylon... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[209.85.210.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h132sm4400827oif.44.2019.12.14.03.56.32 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so2603443otn.4 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6a50:: with SMTP id h16mr20726051otn.267.1576324592339; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28a92269-832b-61d0-3d25-68be2439dd9c@pp.dyndns.biz> <7a20b370-6dac-3caf-3f45-fe485c56b372@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <7a20b370-6dac-3caf-3f45-fe485c56b372@pp.dyndns.biz> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:56:20 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Root volume renumbered unexpectedly, no longer boots To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZmGW4dZmz4Jjk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=ckieyI3B; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::333) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.23)[ip: (-7.00), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:56:36 -0000 On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:05 AM Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: > > 48 disks, actually. :) Half of those are on an external JBOD connecte= d > > via an LSI FC controller. This server is significantly older than my > > association with it, so I'm uncertain about how the internal 24 drives = are > > connected. If it helps, dmesg only reports ses0 and ses1 drivers. The > > boot disk and the first 24 ZFS drives are all on ses0. I think that > > implies only two controllers in use, not three. > > > > Yeah, I see now that your mainboard has a SAS controller in addition to > the Intel ICH10 controller. That BIOS setting I suggested would only > affect disks attached to the Intel controller. The SAS controller should > have it's own option BIOS settings, available through some key combo > during boot. I have no experience with these controllers though so I > couldn't tell if something in their settings suddenly made them report > disks in a different order. Hopefully someone who knows how they work > will read this and help you. I though that too. Also the first boot disk seems attached to that controll= er. It depends on how the disks were replaced. One by one or all of them at onc= e? It would be best to go to RAID/SAS BIOS and see settings there. Disk order should not change. Usually RAID BIOS will show warnings about missing disks or RAID state change but it should keep the disk order. Except when all disks are set to create one large RAID array. Then controller decides on how to restore the data on the disks. Also this takes some time until array is can get back to full operations. On a HP ProLiant server I also had to boot special CD with RAID utility to set up this controller in a way that was not possible from RAID BIOS screen. Anyways with this kind of play it is always best to create a backup in the first place. Good luck! :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 12:18:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058701CC416 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZmlK0PwNz4Kpv for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1576325885; x=1578917885; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=aZWAzaJ1VaCBHE/x4scY5cM/OSPxREmQtXgmwMoKmtc=; b=Fp16ZLGnqZpBJFPrac+4S6dbd5YtGqLCN5pR1USJIZfOYPvYcXItack3DWfSqmISeZzUrVkMHKceOJjiqeCpH8Ih4xpNFHwq3D8EHUGyWmOtcxULVKovuGNjxR4czjr24SP8ZBb6VfMjfFK49It2tdu0FXEFMGqwHPZDpIjJvbk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xY2QwMDAwMDA1NzRlNzguZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:17:53 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:17:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ig6Mo-000FMl-Qd; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:17:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:17:50 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... 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I'm unable to find one operating system, that fits to all of my I find I'm down to FreeBSD, Android, IOS and assorted embedded Linux these days (not counting the work laptop which runs Windows). > needs. IMO the one in all approach is a pitfall, many people probably > need to use different operating systems for different tasks. Depending on where you draw the boundary of the OS (which as Polytropon notes is quite a variable line) using one OS for nearly everything is be quite possible. FreeBSD can cover a lot of bases because the OS boundary is pretty small (essentially enough to be BSD and to self build). Just add packages and configure until you get what you want. The constraint is really the available packages and FreeBSD is too big for some applications. If you constrict the boundary far enough then Linux (the kernel and minimal common support) does indeed fit all (well quite a lot) even better than FreeBSD (for example I can't run my phone under FreeBSD, neither the hardware nor the apps I use are supported and even if they were there is a lot that wouldn't be useful in a phone OS). Many would say that Linux is not a 'complete' OS - but what does 'complete' really mean ? and who says so ? Looking the other way if you expand the boundary to say Android, LibreElec, Ubuntu, ... then you pretty much have dedicated tools that almost certainly contain much you do not need and cannot easily remove. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 12:19:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6789B1CC5CD for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ot1-x342.google.com (mail-ot1-x342.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::342]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zmmq1cY7z4L1t for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ot1-x342.google.com with SMTP id a15so2665013otf.1 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:19:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GJ+nVsCNL6mGfPRWxqQoiUVAFwzCKYwPgdh5/dwi79U=; b=C3M2flHKbdI2Du+zfIrSCTUADjdV/UXXin5UmJHONj3NWluDNE2kw8o18/8p7a/xUr wxNwZ4jSzLHkg3sCVN05La1P7yF3V9G4Bcw9ePpfEirOMtTHZSVNHKaiPni/amhULGBk cTksOlla/Szw2VHQEeBfNd0JZSw5g/3fdsx/oEedZ2lQJDkCkIi9W6Lg+/XutLknkO/8 yxVLVo38sxVmFk6udgsD0sT3hXkXv+YM3G5klKee21Kv2xno1DcGW+fdybeZ1pZSjXYw J17h5QdDBAiOJROmtzJrs7pcuXnQiFc2wDmqwlhVuMyFzyfbtkL8ryXXUtnB37ede1Q1 n8ZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GJ+nVsCNL6mGfPRWxqQoiUVAFwzCKYwPgdh5/dwi79U=; b=YP8dUPek2xWt8mX76SC4CyDHzEHa4eYa8Rm5lwYsWsN3nEMyijycvAOJdtcGfi1TUf tbTyuxuFsGvGnQmVzqVAZHqt2PcFOkLRPRvsOcJQ6cYkYOgrcAVMGSCEcFjOBXiGGo0j MhCS5gXNKkOXDwXMF2tpPBETaQ1/u2fh5ZGNeEdGMuYfYhtDwNjNU42SNo+lp1EheL8P hX5oAFaD7ju9w905A8N6zdXhf3fMtb0tDgf5cXZiKvyKQ/2FTQUmsIw4lBkaDJDo7DfG VRGNCqVTiS/mTyfGnD2T28Y9Rvm7E8/LCuzg/BhIsdqK8eZLAsApCUNeBsemm0skKJoG B1Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW+ZRI+d7hwEaF9b68v8w7rZCNwexMbfHj0sMh5yRaDUUZCGiTz k7+S9fnFC0jCvYVFkIf5cVtXfLzlPsg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwLrX+lYEgJ2JbIBy8F4cKQ/Rej/LXAu4AnrVOU50FFe0iMgNm9ntfyiiUTKgzb6UHns0lrmA== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7393:: with SMTP id j19mr19665686otk.336.1576325960980; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com (mail-ot1-f51.google.com. [209.85.210.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y18sm4542453oto.27.2019.12.14.04.19.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id r27so2614725otc.8 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:19:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7342:: with SMTP id l2mr20257320otk.98.1576325959927; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 04:19:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:19:08 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... To: Polytropon Cc: Ralf Mardorf , Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Zmmq1cY7z4L1t X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=C3M2flHK; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::342) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (3.01), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:19:24 -0000 On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:48 PM Polytropon wrote: > FreeBSD as the OS (!) works different. It is not Linux. It does > not want to be Linux. And that's totally fine, if you ask me. I also prefer FreeBSD over Linux. Mostly because of Stable Kernel API and Architecture Coherence :-) Just imagine when ATARI VCS comes out! There will be FreeBSD on ATARI! :-P =) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 12:38:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4DF1CCE8A for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from graahnul.grom@ya.ru) Received: from forward102o.mail.yandex.net (forward102o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZnBQ53x5z4Lqr for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from graahnul.grom@ya.ru) Received: from mxback21o.mail.yandex.net (mxback21o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::72]) by forward102o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8875E6680A8E for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:38:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: from sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c1b:2a1f:0:640:6bf5:c5d9]) by mxback21o.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id 35QmdYi1mH-c37WxPmj; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:38:03 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ya.ru; s=mail; t=1576327083; bh=yNgRN0vL2AdH/SiDZLJ07HrPEYjgR3pzEDYYJkJoX9M=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:References:Date:Message-ID; b=EFZzLaw4MUPQwX6Zoh0ZDI6soyGqgu5CtSUcLlGOic+dp/MAASraN5yEBQdtUR2e1 8+vgsc+O0zACLa6VkTA9CoqnFCu25kz6no+RGfH9oCms/JfcZ7uBohESC/E/8YGb7T ZFUppYRuDSJatmXvhC01hfu0S4RqQrdgU0gsZ/qE= Received: by sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 2YqioAI539-c2Sue6Gb; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:38:02 +0300 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:38:00 +0300 From: dmn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox, X11 fonts and 2gis Message-ID: <20191214153800.4f266dae@demon> In-Reply-To: <20191214041224.GA9787@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191201040730.GA55403@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191201183701.58e3fff1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191202130934.GA12388@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191202184502.5b1defc7@demon> <20191202165730.GB18034@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191202220839.5fcc657e@demon> <20191203130003.GA48268@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191203195701.162f0002@demon> <20191214041224.GA9787@admin.sibptus.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZnBQ53x5z4Lqr X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ya.ru header.s=mail header.b=EFZzLaw4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ya.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of graahnul.grom@ya.ru designates 37.140.190.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=graahnul.grom@ya.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ya.ru:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:37.140.128.0/18]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[ya.ru]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ya.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ya.ru,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 37.140.128.0/18(-4.80), asn: 13238(-3.78), country: RU(0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[182.190.140.37.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:37.140.128.0/18, country:RU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[ya.ru] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:38:08 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:12:24 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > After some radical changes in the system I'm seeing the text on the > map all right. Congratulations! :-) > Now I'm not even sure I want to know what the cause of > the problem was, but the changes included: > > 1. Upgrading from 11.3 to 12.1 > 2. Upgrading all packages > 3. Switching from /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko to graphics/drm-legacy-kmod > 4. Switching from Mate to Xfce. > > Somewhere on this path the problem lay. > > I made no changes to my shell, locale, firefox settings. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 13:12:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565FF1CD9C8 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.190.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Znxx09wMz4N0P for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: yHqgMbcVM1naM9J3.TW9UsrTZH4bEm4J6E04UqMN4FuN6DmQ0c3mRLASKtRWz7j k4L5YuBpgWGzdfVQofuEdvdsu.PyCoqRlr.BDSqJKzlUOi2oOzL_XCKiaa0Q2YrIbkDKMvn8iKyg x6nhbhREewtaZoq4rONdyWc_v8gy5hEZNBSO7VKct1MaEcMt9ZdC6CwKlfC61B7st.sngILj24GO OXgrefzPL5vXFunK4wDFaiJNn4jlNiTyJ1aS_7ebJ6zqo97yGZBI4exJLyThc9lX.atIJcLCPAWx ooPLQg.2oGXef.coUS7pK2Co3Jcz057ilbel.trYqVhwjTr.._Eg8ekG9gXWT.wVt6M0FTGco7c0 FIDl.zQ8dcR1i0L_oDrb.ao5Ed9Hs4ImzTanYtv_xuDj8YApEt3DAu4td5DCU94x3KcSSrXxWTzg kBDOnoBOa56roIy098IWZuZYdLGZ74Wp.R_SNWpyU8ZLMgxOwdlbfilHradXpI3euqO675P6rbt_ pI5lHbaOTKda2gx3OL1aos2XFwv76kcKwiub61COIML2EW7i7olQF4JCdec2VrKrnZdyDK1GceRw 43tWlNreQMJwj8wfbeTxJZqvUi9.IdnL1_lqzHdT1692rxHLIfqRSPc6_NZDFbl8yWcwwVdl5CKa 1TTA3H0OFIMln2Jm8TFzlFDmwhl41Z3Q2LW5Z5WHjaAHiu39PicDQUFHdA87LUokG7yH3BE4K6C9 b8YrEaOR.m5mo.SCXpQHP2UG0PgYGP1gH1K6O.2aerCCe0fR0HlwqBuqOT53.tk4Qs3bHAZCotLx YHmPtS0xNfdIl88gVrbqQtiFhxJEJ8nndD2K2rC9bNQNqPK_E5SPpc7KAG5IawtpPLXyKPkyeBLo zRfGqq6gPgTcSZdXq9FMgfxxLUnZlOOIKN4J3wQOCK2hSd.URgt.Jl_L9BlldXhF2mbfi0PHm.Ft EOfkI.rR8WQnXoEHgFNKQF6j5iWKWmFMA8ZpZaRtRqBSqY2k96_a5BeG0dF6qrKBxbz5nGmhj7LE WDM83JVvh4W.N1PU.b53RzEAIE1O64DSq2WlSdnitYu6UWRmOKTG_KoRDyZr3caAGNLaD5KB9R4i I1yDi4X0HJRp5_.1RpQCRF6LBEmSkhuqAGm_5xpLIWM6Qil20lTkV8q..Ve2QxefoRy_zliYV7pN pGCChmZBzB5EyyxuVHN3vFqkLYD2ng6kPp00PYkG2jSkjqB5nIZsL8foAXAL1WggOhxP3jOe2yQo ARNxwmIx1zUIxYETlUstVJKIKuoBAJTXAdtZfmScdYa6cpntXI7brziEEPD2v5dQLoHQ8DZNYc0l 8f2QtylJWhzefnI54VC8aO4qtltPTXjH6Yx3I.Jn6V_3TKDFfm0Y2515vN_TxcmVHpm7DBpVYVS4 VT8c_Yw8sRM7J08unqj485mz287fePbM- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:12:17 +0000 Received: by smtp417.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f74ff362928632ffd500b967537fd2fc; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id d15so2433912pll.3 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 05:12:12 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWzwfwKUPulbnqSWa03rqZEFH9BO37WvHXAUvwdw9bIBCbB+JZ6 cDP5lmv+XHHXscsBBrWguJA7WCCbKkJMu42HV2w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxhzoWVFcTAtPfyXwbYaUqaDPt1SVffQL32eQqVfixZ48IjqsJ/SVjzIBLKeBEHm+sapElVy9K7KIogtzA83AA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8a8f:: with SMTP id x15mr5752174pjn.87.1576329131689; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 05:12:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:11:55 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: I apologise ... 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I'm not on Twitter. How offensive was this tweet? Back in my day, when political/social trolling didn't exist, software flamewars were accepted and, to a certain extent, a rite of passage. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 19:13:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42AB1D4ADD for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qt1-x836.google.com (mail-qt1-x836.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::836]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Zxyv3VF3z4f30 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-qt1-x836.google.com with SMTP id z15so2179438qts.5 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:13:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Ju34Cc7LP8yY6yQwWIcY3vdZn5rQihgataDOkS+hFY=; b=DKqZbK3iEFCcF+iC94OqHjwHG0KsmMV3GfhtXuSqEqeCkbMosNyiSDLrnbVLHfuRK5 WAgdO5nHAbg62zc+hhi7C1ZMsxhMSx98XhZrKbzRujtfc36tC/oSNuVVAvPGv0qxqPJv PsziTHDWzAjWvUUu4eUoD2ul0dZRAssKIWMY4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Ju34Cc7LP8yY6yQwWIcY3vdZn5rQihgataDOkS+hFY=; b=fxyQUCq65UVXshCDEQ//BpIxopWiFl+KmdGnWqXiR+AyfTAQFKojJu0qSW+QOM7Uqt Dj09WW02DNQaWRpGfClE9zaLnBztuvgzySFfJDWjR09d1AfgHEsWDHrCOMZCULGP1Ajm Vraa7aiVqSR0pqlcn/1uI7jgG5ByPy1VnyIzhVhjMt8K3EgVSZbWg9GXfjEyvbJo4AYu lBZEdcSCeEK26WaONaMXK1f4sAI53m2WUWD0H4jZAYZzsYi6Vt3HTeikOV7rBoxjWluz 9Tt5TRrjIyv9I1/OmG1Ajiq0E/wxqVyC2JTY4JVerg63oz8Tj6e6gNUGJsC33rRZDaX6 WcRA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVj8i1SMLhzkW8atskYLH0KTA/TO7i1iZK1aIzfYoxqpq5zireA B58QP1tWoS0O1jtLixf6vqgNXhpzGP0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxxqCRhP/LB3rZkVA7XMNSLWUpNmRn8Q8LYpP6bUQWeXtb7jRyMDC9VY3ro+WJ2pevHFruDSA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:47c1:: with SMTP id d1mr17341060qtr.84.1576350821929; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a24sm4665852qtj.61.2019.12.14.11.13.40 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47Zxyq3lwXz3Ytk for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:13:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:13:34 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Building "Kleopatra" with debug symbols Message-ID: <20191214141334.00001fbf@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Zxyv3VF3z4f30 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=DKqZbK3i; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::836 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.17 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.67)[ip: (-9.21), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:13:44 -0000 I am having a problem with "Kleopatra" crashing. Unfortunately, the back-trace is useless. I was told to build "Kleopatra" with debugging symbols. I have tried a few methods I found while Googling, but nothing actually worked. Probably, because they were based on Linux. Can anyone tel me how to go about it? Thanks! :) -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 19:55:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5102F1D5C56 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ZyvV0WNTz3CnM for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xBEJtaoZ034294 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:55:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1576353337; bh=h2lZSb6TCtrorsCFhOYlpN/t/qO4q9/VpNX52Fm6Afw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=n1L3ykapVRaJSmThs8cIKh/7Vl4KobsSYTMCrYkCYb3WanRiiqi+U1Grd30Pic4yx gEmnKhg2aBhAYGYunLRZX7e86pkClf7pWyqE5bgbWfrvGU9ScCveCtViak6W9X/Hqz QGZqMilw6QI5jFvUzEH9G3GceB1UOIvROQuw3vVaQmPIwD7KGguLBCFO/fp7oQILAZ nbg/ioqgj9WwPqnf/iWGZCD1v/vE87U8/JL5dfPoMGNHjgVOSVZW2J9C/LgaZzMcS2 2Hhv5Aoap11YIhA40M3lKJoYcpmjB/Cu6HHCfPb6x8B3HkyG/D5s7lPy3h5wtni8Sv H8xgj3hmNSdQQ== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xBEJtaQU034291 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:55:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:55:36 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building "Kleopatra" with debug symbols In-Reply-To: <20191214141334.00001fbf@seibercom.net> Message-ID: References: <20191214141334.00001fbf@seibercom.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ZyvV0WNTz3CnM X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:55:50 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:13-0500, Jerry wrote: > I am having a problem with "Kleopatra" crashing. Unfortunately, the > back-trace is useless. I was told to build "Kleopatra" with debugging > symbols. > > I have tried a few methods I found while Googling, but nothing actually > worked. Probably, because they were based on Linux. > > Can anyone tel me how to go about it? I had to do the same for net/ocserv a while back. Option 1: Create /usr/ports/security/kleopatra/Makefile.local, giving it this content: WITH_DEBUG=YES Option 2: Add the aforementioned line to /etc/make.conf. Don't forget to remove or comment it out when you have rebuilt Kleopatra, otherwise all ports will be built with debug symbols, leading to huge executables all over /usr/local. I prefer the first option as it gives me finegrained control over which ports are built with debug symbols or other customizations. -- Trond. 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Robotic lawn mowers, robot vacuum cleaner, Cylon toasters, guitars with Borg implants, all of them probably equipped with Plan 9 from Bell Labs going berserk. Btw. one day my electric guitars were assimilated: https://i.imgur.com/wXiENVI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6TDYQHm.jpg At the moment it's an advantage, I can use those guitars as a digital input device for my computers, but who knows what will happen in the future? At the moment they are seemingly not equipped with an embedded Plan 9. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 22:59:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679381D92B4 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from lime.woodcruft.co.uk (woodcruft.co.uk [81.187.27.248]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b2zL3sFrz3MG4 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27DDE13155D; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:59:19 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I apologise ... Message-ID: <20191214225919.dphhnod2g6lmrnjy@woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute Mail-Followup-To: Frank Shute , mayuresh@kathe.in, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> X-Organisation: 'Woodcruft Ltd.' User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47b2zL3sFrz3MG4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of frank@woodcruft.co.uk designates 81.187.27.248 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=frank@woodcruft.co.uk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[frank@woodcruft.co.uk]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[woodcruft.co.uk]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.70)[ipnet: 81.187.0.0/16(-4.71), asn: 20712(-3.70), country: GB(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20712, ipnet:81.187.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:59:27 -0000 On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 01:31:16PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > I have ranted against FreeBSD in public (on Twitter). > I apologise, it was born out of frustration on witnessing the capabilities > provided by Clear Linux OS. > > I have realised that I still prefer FreeBSD, not just for it's sane > environment, but primarily for this community. > > Again, I am really sorry, hope I can be forgiven and re-accepted by the > community. > > Best regards, > > ~Mayuresh Mayuresh, You need never apologise for your opinions if they are honestly held, even if they happen to be complete garbage! I refer you to Voltaire. You're the piece of grit in the oyster that is required to form a pearl. I've proudly been posting the finest twaddle on this mailing list for ~15 years and have irritated any number of people. I wouldn't bother with Twitter if I were you. It's a forum for the mob and as such should be avoided. "Never in the field of human discourse, has so little, been owed by so few, to so many." Regards, -- Frank --* The Machine Stops.*-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 23:04:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E417A1D9542 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b34w2gf1z3MbN for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 9ptB_TUVM1luS2.yWK2PvnQiRjzhxlmk8.HX4rz.8U2izg2abQ8pGGrKZ_oMZkT I.Z8YsB6KQBENLuxlOAm28_WCeAqCh0YV61uPpGlfKTCiAblmluxLBdmVJQd6b8JeGKsi7bSiNHh FK8JZ_cxOaBPR82Ujgn4lfhyMbj1EY5RT54W2V4Z69.cy0kqUMJ9AvxZWuuB.StYatcAxF_yZQKd cXC25N9iEBvtUG7HFVGOPing6XLXLdT6G29y9owHWxpIA1nJhfW0KEWqO5FsNGB3GfNlX0v_jgQs foKqDgE7jOPHykfz5vlSt90Ood8Dk7tVsWCA48uFVKAYcR7MJLOrOTf_wXpeIkSuY1x5YuVEjlj7 S56rssoem66hTCvFD2QMYnb8Hv0OXxskgLgQTQFTBIorrTJ8rKcamN3N6YPixXRxMLBgzoFuTlHo qr1iGTW56okz8lVP6xeU7bxtLFrBVnug_ESW13FlDKHvFRK4kD0FELZYLdEFd9kdy7DkCziwW4Zn SUGBFyr964Kh8Ynyc3.Ii9Uqv85Uo7O9Rraqin0bQVibXPDvGbKgiXqFROMIKW3y9x9yUg.c_9sY BRVmh3yMNd9aRf4x70kxQQY3wGmz4isgr0a.qKQ_DQQX2zuE8GlWvnby.Hf_MvhS7FL8nHye1Kvm xuY3fhixSPaeb1ISQ2q6eh40tCjcrcdcBMWNo2RpoKeFz5ALRMdHZFFhyUSrOXKiNCfy.dr.5Ndv CBk3JJQ6lcO5zUBG9XNStZbEPLFzM.XqmULgITeuny52_lDr_QJfy9kUWiF6IXBsZYoyN5UK1VZL 9n7Ph3lu4qEri2bizCkG3QE3q1X9HPDvFenfUpY6Nclm7Uf99mNCmJQij57q263bCl6Bb9XXG2s7 9Xrebc6TJH7u35GKaxLKrPplAKAn2rzs2D8ajCUZTZonGOpbY0zrCuFaQXFzM1Gk0pm8CRAvcTr8 UpW_qp9kyXCYpeaNNXt3OsMmbXyFAmuyqXAi0b_THywgzlg7Uxd78H7Cpd6oBWLjNY_LDGhFFv.L buhM0toKSP4i2ePDag4jGVOxnMj6rVnPts3Gg6HliV7JdSfMPicSdN7J9ukU_79J85hEnmtOdugJ 2OuuxErIxZ6lOH6P7K1IfWebH2Xb6WlycnRMkhcNIcH57QlIwnrGlAvc8Lnbhx65jLFlLSin2eHF 5iNX2cXFFQMFt8HfBcCdFv1rOUYd_A23uN9FIz6rLXCpRNQ7ZJ1onPZDG0TKVljqOOXWHSvSZI3z K9fktKxRykKfEIWCpIC9MOLnGsWhXvCUHZz5tYH4sBcYrAkxU5Ul62N2W4Snb7Cn2kqjH0I6sBBB eidQw4wRS1Nvz9_7OMtKKalYarwpnuqCdvM.Y1sPSBMrQTn.EpUP.pgXEeTZjY0l7ZD8tjHOLaeA GWmXtVgJrAWgU4bpY9zCLhjUErF3b2KY- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:13 +0000 Received: by smtp410.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7f535438c97e251013c20608b95ce555; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:04:23 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... Message-ID: <20191215000423.5d43ff86@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47b34w2gf1z3MbN X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.571,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.603,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.177.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.55), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.25), asn: 34010(1.78), country: GB(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:17 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:09 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >FreeBSD should therefore be seen as a foundation, not as a "one size >fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", which it isn't, and which _no_ OS, >despite imaginable claims, is. To expect (!) something different than >this fact is absolute nonsense. "I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do." - HAL 9000 AI{,O} is what users expect nowadays and it will come soon, most likely with harmful secondary effects. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 23:10:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EC41D96FE for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b3D80Jswz3Mk8 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: SaMsFB8VM1lhWFPtgMTSzbKlmB29QSxzffmKL3qd3mqKrnmJiz53VHAgC4zzI3q i47ysKdstKir0yJZ5Q4t6hilbwfFOKzHk3bbCuhCxPH3luX2iQ708eczDoZIsnK1aw9YcXarzuJ8 7W3mLkB.M0LkDorWZWSpZz4oGtJoCyNdhvy8RiZSKXz.oZzEdPq47Z5zoTWeHhz88k3B3lQs4ciO WizNo3VKvhvo4KgYkHLMxtNfZSw9NO.npIF6DrQRIt_tvWrNEz5uk4C1v3aMG9SjzmvmHrwZYvAd RARKLorGYHz44eKZI95JNVHmbcMDgpZkfmqCwe.lWb9VFPsyeS8JkZIra_Pk37RvkjztFa7FbDZY uSM2hjteG9TREThhCtFv5TcbcQTCYQo6ocD5tl3c8Ba3tA_7jaytPoLL5yRG5ga6a6TlpDy7PCoK 4f4XR0TFd9v.4wQ0aLxEv9yHA92JT2DO_cAMbgfRhroQu9FcJM.DZG4W4jPPnwySFFbtMTNxZPNu Igq8jQv0ivwAwd4eDmqFxffk63l16pZIUSEshsZN5OxAvpmCY20L3vpI_pkH_VDI0MSBBYvC0xrL sIenkd_G3zfp80O1EwOsEoUH0pf.Gbe6goDpQsqUy.AtzN4he5ENySvZqX0S0bTzGVMvl2RVw.jO VxoB9j6UjtOR9puSL9guDGiYjPiQ9ZmHzpiulJzrIw387ZTlVKwPrvkPoFhT4Uz..0Q6uBz8xyZ_ sRi2vSCkNY0Ms99xrwChnScldiGYJv2qBAw2w3picqA_vSr9TOcafB7qe.0KWiAaZZHl.6VfLXEP snwLzsXGGBe4kN4MtD1rpSX7fr8TbFzwpRWapn0zyC4V03PWV3TJCOBNi15OZ45TOU1A8pWvR6ur 2YbIZhknVEQ2MU7RWX2Ksfzsz2v2Ni1IgpVDoEGoEDPvMB99..Ct8hpmabuW7N0So53ohbIH8QDq 38YxWQoGxe2iZEec0kqBN3WUToXNW_dSzJuGEbupsK7_O4P3tnB5xns9gvJiPFZplfNzPf.eakc4 miaIOwBFMHNjRIQivFMRF0wPaJpXQIni4UILhBtMP1.4mwBQyHmEE.NFQMrjZjlTiNIdPBZbEaKV rLO7ZtykV3SqmGKrVOkTKQtQk2QduJid7D4YWOOVPHLstr5Iw22fppyMSGhXthAHfPCTVj8uKTgE 3QN1rujTxiCeTQYRLpz2euhxuBbyTX7cYigzf5Nu.eqYIJWTSJ5cKp47EsMndWU3sDmrndua7Jre bacR0kEnv_ibLlWG2pQBH4kKyr7sFrG52dEiIV9COXwwFthCkTxXxwsR8n.f3PmMkVKdbI2E31s7 h_c1GZylnzf44j2IWTtzLYp1NEsLFcHem3mSg2y4SHWeIPatr.gPoIVE.t0hFaZCg1woNcwcTht4 eeC6EquGNhW80ABkT9w-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:10:30 +0000 Received: by smtp412.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d6e7b39f99956c7f1eca2ba2c73cb8c7; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:10:39 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... Message-ID: <20191215001039.24185e7b@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20191215000423.5d43ff86@archlinux> References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191215000423.5d43ff86@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47b3D80Jswz3Mk8 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.39)[-0.385,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.44)[-0.440,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[202.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[202.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.98), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.25), asn: 34010(1.78), country: GB(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:10:33 -0000 On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:04:23 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:09 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >>FreeBSD should therefore be seen as a foundation, not as a "one size >>fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", which it isn't, and which _no_ OS, >>despite imaginable claims, is. To expect (!) something different than >>this fact is absolute nonsense. > >"I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think >that any conscious entity can ever hope to do." - HAL 9000 > >AI{,O} is what users expect nowadays and it will come soon, most likely >with harmful secondary effects. My apologies for the bashism :D. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 23:37:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79B61D9D59 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b3qT6dZ3z3NZS for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com with SMTP id t6so812933qvs.5 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:37:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ViaaZiRV3WuGBLqPxFzCNYakMLRVH4swmAvD9uxhyPs=; b=j3BMpGaChxzXENukdmhTx8w4JtFeLePcMlveG6mrn8TMZH9vDR97gX3VxrtYgEfrOW PmHiJxsPnZJHFVLWGxHwc/AOYRncePhE3JU4P9l0T4P4B3rI/PT3cyMo8VdK0HHgtVza 6e9rxgh0M/afpVDxgNWgYFqAQ30qQGZC/3V7w= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ViaaZiRV3WuGBLqPxFzCNYakMLRVH4swmAvD9uxhyPs=; b=KZKXBpp7TdvWliSJJ0hNLaNAeiESipI9kPgDMTS9TBEkBkHFIkxIiBvkKqdwHnCf1h Jc5oY+OxGCCP0IbzS/KGCsOFrGwQTo+c//WSTABmGtMVb2/UDDzl47TdCENJpagO+Rh1 elCGCVLBIS+O6dTUQpe7zpEsX6EQeFu6FQ8Ezka1Zltx/y7DeviRJG7USAhlX1L3GeER 1VPwrUER2OG/JsE0UO6YgltNwPN400wK2BzNoFjTqNVpP9274VSzFEXMMJqwXHoXOHJL xs5Q/Iexb0ahEGKi5FshKeDJO0AiwKg6oWks/MZP8Cu2c3HrNNTF/8nS9VCjl4jrJjlz eg6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWshchCh4E4C/N1f0HW89X9aX6LjXL6x0A4hqKSUz7PZvatDe8W 4QfdzKeUZMc02D+p8hnVqASHmMklZPc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyma8QnOUzcaN3qCCFXPIXDUjp57rS9aDKeymy7TR8aRZhz/fKtoY0n1W3T6GtlOoaLOqD2HA== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:9610:: with SMTP id 16mr4807622qvx.143.1576366654501; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm3214207qkj.91.2019.12.14.15.37.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47b3qK03Wzz4cG9 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:37:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:37:31 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I apologise ... 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I refer you to Voltaire. > >You're the piece of grit in the oyster that is required to form a >pearl. > >I've proudly been posting the finest twaddle on this mailing list for >~15 years and have irritated any number of people. > >I wouldn't bother with Twitter if I were you. It's a forum for the mob >and as such should be avoided. > > "Never in the field of human discourse, has so little, been owed by > so few, to so many." "Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness." -- Jethro Gibbs -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 23:55:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A310C1DA2EA for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b4Cl2YKlz3PKt for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.223.163.143]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mz9d5-1hlPGn3GZn-00wCGc for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:55:10 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:55:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I apologise ... 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It's a sign of weakness." > > -- Jethro Gibbs "Never give up, never surrender!" -- Peter Quincy Taggart -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...