From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sun Apr 12 02:07:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB942AC2C8 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490FWc5zFqz4RZ6 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CD0B42AC2C7; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD772AC2C6 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490FWc57vFz4RZ5 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE1F21DD9 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03C27eX8045891 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03C27eIg045890 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 245304] iwm(4): Add support for Intel 9462 (iwm) wireless devices Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:40 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: wireless X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: blake.darche@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: wireless@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: short_desc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:07:41 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D245304 Blake changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|iwm(4): Add support for |iwm(4): Add support for |Intel 9262 (iwm) wireless |Intel 9462 (iwm) wireless |devices |devices --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sun Apr 12 02:08:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7772AC32A for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490FX04Bgrz4RbQ for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8FEA62AC329; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAFC2AC328 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490FX03K69z4RbP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D41921DDF for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03C280Gr046231 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03C280vR046230 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 245304] iwm(4): Add support for Intel 9462 (iwm) wireless devices Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: wireless X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: blake.darche@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: wireless@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 02:08:00 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D245304 --- Comment #6 from Blake --- (In reply to Adriaan de Groot from comment #5) You are correct. Sorry about that. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sun Apr 12 15:03:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880802C0216 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@metricspace.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490ZkT2Kdvz4DdF for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@metricspace.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4DF012C0214; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA232C0213; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@metricspace.net) Received: from mail.metricspace.net (mail.metricspace.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617::107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490ZkP3sXVz4Dd9; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@metricspace.net) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617:3210:b3ff:fe77:ca3f] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617:3210:b3ff:fe77:ca3f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.metricspace.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B793C6189; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:02 +0000 (UTC) To: wireless@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" From: Eric McCorkle Autocrypt: addr=eric@metricspace.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXonLJBYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdA4oHU11A8qtqD0EtRofyORHbGX1ZIT/mnk9eceKQx56q0 JEVyaWMgTWNDb3JrbGUgPGVyaWNAbWV0cmljc3BhY2UubmV0PoiZBBMWCABBAhsDBQkB4TOA BQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAFiEEPfuJobsx0Me4pIwLPOOjZtwQVqwFAl6JzIAC GQEACgkQPOOjZtwQVqy2DgD+IRCNNfb7C16fjEHazDMBwmBIMz+CTJUdhoz73P9iy0cA/ixK 83qOW46q1fpCpaZtPvv0FRpcZ5EppnNQ0Yuh40YLuDgEXonLJBIKKwYBBAGXVQEFAQEHQCxw rRXlvDoXgDGv2WMrLy9UaJ4fNWXIdlaiiKZIH7lBAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEEPfuJobsx0Me4 pIwLPOOjZtwQVqwFAl6JyyQCGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQPOOjZtwQVqxS7wD+JgzZC4995EL9j2iB qhPUZTIgs61IypLoDx+o1zsSfvkBALs+/jvkQL4plT0hGtfFaa0iMnLeIXKd/1FSNGSD9hQI Subject: Bluetooth not detecting devices Message-ID: <9b3a7b95-9489-f17d-f6a3-527fb0cd501d@metricspace.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 11:02:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5txNtCtizD5gZYPRseCxyxqDEDd7IsXRK" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 490ZkP3sXVz4Dd9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eric@metricspace.net has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:1f11:617::107) smtp.mailfrom=eric@metricspace.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[metricspace.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.81)[ip: (-0.75), ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.66), asn: 6939(-3.60), country: US(-0.05)]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 15:03:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5txNtCtizD5gZYPRseCxyxqDEDd7IsXRK Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tE8ToFtaccphtZD3P5D58nTSZ07z90BNr"; protected-headers="v1" From: Eric McCorkle To: wireless@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <9b3a7b95-9489-f17d-f6a3-527fb0cd501d@metricspace.net> Subject: Bluetooth not detecting devices --tE8ToFtaccphtZD3P5D58nTSZ07z90BNr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, This is probably a longshot, but I'm trying to get bluetooth working on my librem laptops. Both have the Atheros AR9462 wireless card. Here is pciconf -lbev: ath0@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x028000 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor=3D0x168c device=3D0x0034 subvendor=3D0x11ad subdevice=3D0x0802 vendor =3D 'Qualcomm Atheros' device =3D 'AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter' class =3D network bar [10] =3D type Memory, range 64, base 0xb2000000, size 524288, enabled PCI-e errors =3D Correctable Error Detected Corrected =3D Receiver Error Bad TLP Bad DLLP Replay Timer Timeout I have all the kernel modules loaded and the service enabled, and I can do hccontrol inquiry. The problem is that hccontrol inquiry fails to detect any bluetooth devices, even when I have my bluetooth mouse set to discover (my phone picks it up just fine). Is there a way I can detect whether my card and driver are working proper= ly? --tE8ToFtaccphtZD3P5D58nTSZ07z90BNr-- --5txNtCtizD5gZYPRseCxyxqDEDd7IsXRK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYIAB0WIQQ9+4mhuzHQx7ikjAs846Nm3BBWrAUCXpMtogAKCRA846Nm3BBW rD39AQDJq6SEY29+SrVqKz8xykQizeFRw+1fNUgzFLXRG3gvbQD5ARoQUarPLM/Q bpRgP7kttAZqsHBIoUzbkH+1EZpTkgs= =uCB3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5txNtCtizD5gZYPRseCxyxqDEDd7IsXRK-- From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sun Apr 12 21:00:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F0D2A8DBE for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490kft39vlz4f5N for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2378D2A8DAD; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEE22A8DAC for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490kfs41pgz4f4r for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 646107D78 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03CL0bPV069465 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:37 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03CL0be8069458 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:37 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202004122100.03CL0be8069458@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for wireless@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 21:00:39 -0000 To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- New | 237921 | wpi: Memory leak in function wpi_free_tx_ring of Open | 154598 | [ath] Atheros 5424/2424 can't connect to WPA netw Open | 236918 | Crash: in iwn_ampdu_tx_stop (or ieee80211_ht_node Open | 238636 | ath: Fix kernel addresses printed in if_ath_sysct Open | 240776 | iwm: Can't find wifi networks after short time si 5 problems total for which you should take action. From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Mon Apr 13 06:19:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A6A2B40EA for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490z3h4RRdz48bZ for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 966D72B40E9; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963292B40E8 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490z3h3CKjz48bY; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 5F7C510C54; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Jason Bacon Cc: wireless@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ars Technica article Message-ID: <20200413061928.GB90880@FreeBSD.org> References: <3049612.rJTJeGpjCJ@saskatoon.bionicmutton.org> <20200410001102.GB23747@lonesome.com> <4e3bf6be-aecf-7c62-df98-1cc4b01b8db9@gmail.com> <43f83193-e495-2bf2-f85d-91aa0b36c1a0@gmail.com> <0e205fe8-fbc6-5d91-99b0-1bd4870b8a5d@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:19:28 -0000 [ setting CC to a more appropriate -wireless@ list ] On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:20:14PM -0500, Jason Bacon wrote: > ... > I think [well-working gfx stack] a great long-term goal, but it will > take a significant investment of man-hours to get us there. In the > meantime there's a lot of lower-hanging fruit, like minor improvements > to the bsdinstall UI, external media mounting, etc. What I find more frustrating when reading similar articles (they are all more or less the same) is that they rarely focus on FreeBSD's *real* problems (and no, that's not the awkward installer, having to manually find working DRM port + xf86-video driver combination, search for the scattered knowledge of which magic lines to add to /etc/rc.conf and/or /boot/loader.conf, read the Handbook N times before one can set up their bluetooth mouse, et cetera). While installer's issues, better defaults, bash vs sh, sudo, modelines, and those other little things might seem significant for someone coming from Ubuntu, it would take them a day to learn, adopt, and get back most, if not all, from their previous environment. Our real problems aren't solved that easily, and being solved painfully slowly. Leaving X.org/DRM mess aside, we lack a lot in our laptop department. Our WiFi stack is essentially maintained solely by adrian@, and he's currently not very active. Some ~4 y.o. cards like BCM43228 are still not supported [1]. If you search for "atheros" in our Bugzilla, it returns 13 bugs, the latest action being on 2019-01-26 (reassignment). AR5B22 WLAN+Bluetooth combo does not work/broken, discussion [2] had ended nowhere. Realtek 5209 card readers are quite common and also do not work; the WIP OpenBSD driver porting effort [3] is stuck because apparently something is missing in FreeBSD [subsystems], although [the] driver seems to faithfully implement the OpenBSD [code]. No kernel hacker had chimed in to help. :-( Our WMI stack is unmaintained and incomplete: brightness and multimedia keys do not work on many laptops despite corresponding kernel modules being loaded. This list goes on. Yes, these are deep, hard problems, not the low- hanging fruit, but if Foundation decides where to spend some money, I'd rather see it considers these rather than bsdinstall UI, external media mounting, or some other "lipstick on a pig" type of tasks. ./danfe [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202501 [2] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2019-April/008660.html [3] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204521 From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Mon Apr 13 08:40:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F992B718B for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.dave.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x141.google.com (mail-il1-x141.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::141]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4912Bg07ndz4HHM; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.dave.jones@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x141.google.com with SMTP id e4so5566095ils.4; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:40:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jwa37lL/2pAgNAfYOYvPHFMt8fT3BCXv5ecOzFXG7Qs=; b=EdSiMnrD50wKhJyfPbud/xghnPbqKYAi3qtF+cet9uvgln0s7K5JwOZQXA0TRmae+j NuE6u+/LXa9O6HHgnnok28YUR5sh8gU41IQxdpIh/CZr1og8dvUF23bdDe3xujFFgQEx 3DViGu4U6qCd0TCXDPqsyOzFRelSP1waUrGi9+JZG9yjFKYJ0ZPkH96Yea9ksT0PrWo8 RaC5+5fm2xTDmhtaxddjw+Cbi5JcvVV3kdlmJWA+PUbqH3RC+ZCckPD8Uv7/YQUQWEyH f+DLvsXCbuaE6/XHwfpxn6cqIFECR/LxnhzvEPRgGsqqf44RT7q6vn5kFzM61keak1gS byOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jwa37lL/2pAgNAfYOYvPHFMt8fT3BCXv5ecOzFXG7Qs=; b=rR+fFRjYTiqShiFZnmTtPZmSuPmjQ+UBPCDLS1+IgxPvVbvXZ7neGur3Pz0Ljg/7JL qNl4Ra/tqakHulxZlCk1oGNM0oPgjNFU06hwcc1vlTkdhgeP3Z3+hFEOb12dCkMNk+F3 tO2QsjS7MRWAIJp4sGn5FpHmmZGhj6K9vbWu1QcqFAHAmR5GUkNqOHTSzQTGKVxO5LjA Lyo+X9hveaf4aQhSfZd3ceBRRbdTgntF66/6GIPou3AtYQMxKOifLr4sN2nEaj8ESW6H umtt651HHCppZ09e2aeLpRgSDmpW/Jbo4bZ0WN+EuHNUXDvOB5wx/fDgigwgCPD0cK2z wdhw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pubg2Nn3L28uO7eXXg1fOVZU7X4TomjP9VF4iUaT2aOSTXCf48p9 TyeIx4YX4tuF+8BsCTXnunVyk7kk0CKsL7BnsYIHd5XA X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI2IbWm81KG+DU+NYAI8zQvTkSLA4n0ho7PbMUduI7+vS5tySpJ/iWEjYhTY76QmTHbIejNpLjf0faBOJBMmO8= X-Received: by 2002:a92:85cc:: with SMTP id f195mr16030165ilh.20.1586767241835; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:40:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16555971-E22D-4CF5-803F-43F20A594BA9@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <16555971-E22D-4CF5-803F-43F20A594BA9@FreeBSD.org> From: Dave Jones Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:40:30 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD with wireless support for Raspberry Pi 3 To: "Bjoern A. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:40:44 -0000 On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 6:28 PM Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 24 Feb 2020, at 7:20, Dave Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > > I have read that wireless will work on RPi 3: > > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2019-04-2019-06.html#FreeBSD-S= DIO-and-Broadcom-FullMAC-WiFi-Support > > > https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/project/broadcom-fullmac-wifi-integrati= on/ > > > > What's the current status? Thanks. > > Long overdue. Sorry, that=E2=80=99s my fault. I promised to finish it o= n my > own time and life got in the way. > > I am in need of it myself so I hope I=E2=80=99ll have good news for publi= c > testing really soon. > I feel disappointed with the way you handle this project :( Since this project has been funded, please give us a status report like that: https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2020-01-2020-03.html Thanks! 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:49:00 -0000 On 2020-04-13 01:19, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > [ setting CC to a more appropriate -wireless@ list ] > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:20:14PM -0500, Jason Bacon wrote: >> ... >> I think [well-working gfx stack] a great long-term goal, but it will >> take a significant investment of man-hours to get us there. In the >> meantime there's a lot of lower-hanging fruit, like minor improvements= >> to the bsdinstall UI, external media mounting, etc. > What I find more frustrating when reading similar articles (they are > all more or less the same) is that they rarely focus on FreeBSD's *real= * > problems (and no, that's not the awkward installer, having to manually > find working DRM port + xf86-video driver combination, search for the > scattered knowledge of which magic lines to add to /etc/rc.conf and/or > /boot/loader.conf, read the Handbook N times before one can set up thei= r > bluetooth mouse, et cetera). While installer's issues, better defaults= , > bash vs sh, sudo, modelines, and those other little things might seem > significant for someone coming from Ubuntu, it would take them a day > to learn, adopt, and get back most, if not all, from their previous > environment. Our real problems aren't solved that easily, and being > solved painfully slowly. > > Leaving X.org/DRM mess aside, we lack a lot in our laptop department. > Our WiFi stack is essentially maintained solely by adrian@, and he's > currently not very active. Some ~4 y.o. cards like BCM43228 are still > not supported [1]. If you search for "atheros" in our Bugzilla, it > returns 13 bugs, the latest action being on 2019-01-26 (reassignment). > > AR5B22 WLAN+Bluetooth combo does not work/broken, discussion [2] had > ended nowhere. > > Realtek 5209 card readers are quite common and also do not work; the > WIP OpenBSD driver porting effort [3] is stuck because apparently > something is missing in FreeBSD [subsystems], although [the] driver > seems to faithfully implement the OpenBSD [code]. No kernel hacker > had chimed in to help. :-( > > Our WMI stack is unmaintained and incomplete: brightness and multimedia= > keys do not work on many laptops despite corresponding kernel modules > being loaded. > > This list goes on. Yes, these are deep, hard problems, not the low- > hanging fruit, but if Foundation decides where to spend some money, > I'd rather see it considers these rather than bsdinstall UI, external > media mounting, or some other "lipstick on a pig" type of tasks. > > ./danfe > > [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D202501 > [2] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2019-April/008= 660.html > [3] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D204521 Just to be clear, I was not suggesting that the foundation spend money=20 on low-hanging fruit. What I'm saying is that we can make the desktop experience significantly = better by fixing the easy issues before the foundation considers an=20 investment. I suspect that some developers might not think fixing a WiFi issue is=20 worth their time when there are so many other problems with setting up a = desktop system.=C2=A0 On the other hand, if it's easy to build a desktop = machine that mostly works, and WiFi support is one of only a few obvious = shortcomings, that perception might be different. I'll also add that I'm not a proponent of of even trying to make FreeBSD = attractive to people hung up on some of the trivia mentioned in articles = like this one.=C2=A0 I think our primary focus should be on attracting=20 potential contributors, not average Joes who will only make demands on=20 our time.=C2=A0 For that, we don't need a desktop experience for the=20 technically clueless, just one that a reasonably savvy user can easily=20 manage so they can focus on their real work. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 JB --=20 Earth is a beta site. From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Wed Apr 15 20:45:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F472C1E13 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492Z9s5yGXz4PMV for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CC19A2C1E12; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE0F2C1E11 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 492Z9s55kSz4PMT for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA6BB24FEE for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03FKjLOo016229 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03FKjL5R016227 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:21 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 216091] iwn0 issues on FreeBSD11 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:20 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: wireless X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.0-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: regression X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: jwb@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: wireless@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:45:22 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D216091 Jason W. Bacon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jwb@freebsd.org --- Comment #11 from Jason W. Bacon --- You might have better luck setting the MAC on your wired interface instead = of the WiFi. The FreeBSD Handbook has been updated to recommend this strategy since many WiFi chipsets won't accept a new MAC. I don't think iwn is in that categor= y, but it would generate another data point in any case, assuming you're still having this issue on newer FreeBSD versions. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sat Apr 18 08:08:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C9C2C10B9 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4945Ff161mz3GW4 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 25D742C10B7; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A0A2C10B6 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4945Ff0GTtz3GW2 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 048E89192 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03I88rlK035574 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:53 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03I88rmi035573 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:53 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 245354] [Patch] hccontrol features list incomplete/out of date Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: wireless X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: pi@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: wireless@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:08:54 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D245354 --- Comment #1 from Kurt Jaeger --- Looks interesting. Now we have to find a src committer that can approve/com= mit this. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Sat Apr 18 08:24:57 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84052C1ACC for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4945c944fzz3JBX for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8BF7B2C1ACB; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: wireless@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC1E2C1AC8 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4945c93BnXz3JBW for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 692779569 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 03I8OvhY018360 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03I8Ovra018356 for wireless@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 245354] [Patch] hccontrol features list incomplete/out of date Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: wireless X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: hselasky@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: hselasky@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc assigned_to Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:57 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D245354 Hans Petter Selasky changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hselasky@FreeBSD.org Assignee|wireless@FreeBSD.org |hselasky@FreeBSD.org --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=