From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 04:55:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F6E4ECF2C for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 04:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNggJ6lXPz4VDy for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 04:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=8XPE+mDElnII7u7u7yMir8AB8SaJQnwzdaA7SmVk6AU=; b=Cl2JfaZRwkf6Pf7aMXT06xs3uR gXwzGLuDcR46kZeYc/4rB7QuVNrO8sUtbnty1JXWiGysEe6WzQwRtMhILrI/nmuJdYNDbUQSfyulg ywawX6K91nQICJw28/GjPQOdbYXxO77RtmLZSbX+I3Twe9T7BGkmmaVM++B7jhCZLkuY=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l3XRB-000NXo-T0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:55:45 +0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:55:45 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ltlfCVbeY4fIxJ3F" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNggJ6lXPz4VDy X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=Cl2JfaZR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 04:55:57 -0000 --ltlfCVbeY4fIxJ3F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a day: pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. I was unable to find the core file. Is anybody experiencing similar issues? 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --ltlfCVbeY4fIxJ3F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgDP3RAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY05MMH/iFlGx5SztdxT9vtkCt3wh6c IKre9LmnuN2M/WM9XrXMtYcJDHFj7H7EE7mJyizZfZ71N6W0MaA/WCaUAP+nwmjH HAQcEqCpAA2041WVkQn0MtnYs87KYWnL9IxJb+gOBdJyyJyB6sePbUpJJDIG8Umy WOvwdBptuePX6idAx7reYTne9LNpp8A4RDMh8CWQD9ov9ISuyrxD/qlkcJx44jUa coGy3Sk1LFilAVvnxQZ5xBN1MrQv8ShcfdLE82cyWmQZ9NgNr4RzWu1iKUlCc2/J 51WDYlqDgoGtiUOixdY19FiNI7Bigp/3eEJ0FrFGMoRf2M7uvwsJjyGAZa2TU4U= =tojA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ltlfCVbeY4fIxJ3F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 05:31:22 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BF34EE187 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNhS947Frz4XRB for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=+Mh5+KqEfITXEO3+DwzqM6qxfqTM9AAIozwZ0FFDA+Y=; b=O2hOC7aQvfHGaWNOJkqbqkIr8k wAP0poWX6a2bc+UxsV/p7UVVmoobGhc1WzbZJIAV/I0p5MkL01nBYB2Z+nSR6EtuiQvx8Wx5Tk1y2 qBVJoWuXskQfC+ieCUng6tpt/zEB1KjleL/TsCWsry2drg3PGN3sa9mNIdhaJutLcTIU=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l3Xzc-000O0F-DH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:31:20 +0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:31:20 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tEOFW/FwQiWuzuT4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNhS947Frz4XRB X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=O2hOC7aQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:31:22 -0000 --tEOFW/FwQiWuzuT4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, >=20 > After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a day: >=20 > pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 >=20 > The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. >=20 > I was unable to find the core file. >=20 > Is anybody experiencing similar issues? >=20 > 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --tEOFW/FwQiWuzuT4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgDQYoAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY01bgH/2NqNqVXw8XQhav3MDFDqACZ PBqwcdsiM6zS0EEpDkpSC2YE/724FyBBIIZFvqY5AhSTMZV9uf/ylpQEHcE3w91H BzZQN05OM1rLKU/CWqDEGFbQD93Qb0wVedfed1kxnxIOeEWGP2KrsDjJ53Wrx/D1 hQMbYEElnSxQfRTSNXiHOoloan6/6NG/qKHe8S49az2lzYb6OluOh2rrZLw2Oj4g uVBS0/B4lC40KXbC4urvId6ZwE8bSEfu9ME+cLwGX82pSVEp+j5Go0YsFXehyz6O Z0CeA06qznHZP7cJ9OLhy+wUfwj7fX39HIUvHrYTKxj6ehxvM9+yz4Z+DWIkuxI= =4vBH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tEOFW/FwQiWuzuT4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 05:37:41 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44BC4EE3C9; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from mail.turbocat.net (turbocat.net [88.99.82.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNhbS5jQNz4Xf7; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from hps2020.home.selasky.org (unknown [178.17.145.105]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.turbocat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D342B260420; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:37:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Microphone stopped working in Frefox and Chrome To: Tomasz CEDRO , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <9025f616-ba3f-ef44-603a-824bd8e4e20a@cedro.info> From: Hans Petter Selasky Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:37:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNhbS5jQNz4Xf7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hps@selasky.org designates 88.99.82.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hps@selasky.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mail.turbocat.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[selasky.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[88.99.82.50:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.992]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[88.99.82.50:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.99.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[desktop,freebsd-ports,freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:38:46 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 05:37:41 -0000 On 1/23/21 11:54 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día sábado, enero 23, 2021 a las 08:56:46p. m. +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > >> El día sábado, enero 23, 2021 a las 02:35:37p. m. +0100, Tomasz CEDRO escribió: >> >>> Quick peak at PulseAudio homepage shows that we work on an outdated version. >>> FreeBSD uses 13.0 from 2019-09-13 while the latest release is 14.2 from >>> 2021-01-16. There is a mention on hot plug in the manual page. Maybe we >>> should update the port first and see if the issue is solved already in the >>> upstream? :-) >>> >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/. >> >> I have updated the port audio/pulseaudio locally on my system to now >> >> $ pkg info | grep pulse >> pulseaudio-14.2_1 Sound server for UNIX >> > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252957 I think Firefox was switched to the OSS backend now? --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 06:39:20 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504F24F069C for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [IPv6:2a01:4f9:4a:1fd8::17]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNjyZ50Rzz4bgK for ; 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PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a01:4f9:4a:1fd8::17:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:39:20 -0000 --AP0VoO/oFQHPp88o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le dimanche 24 janv. 2021 =E0 12:31:20 (+0700), Victor Sudakov =E0 =E9crit: Hello Victor, > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. >=20 > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > >=20 > > After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a day: > >=20 > > pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 > >=20 > > The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. > >=20 > > I was unable to find the core file. > >=20 > > Is anybody experiencing similar issues? > >=20 > > 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 I know it's stupid, and you can forgot my answer, but did you recompile from sources i915kms.ko module? The one which come with pkg is buggy. > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ Whaou a fidonet address :-) I use to be a point. --=20 Jacques Foucry --AP0VoO/oFQHPp88o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEAREKAH0WIQRd29C9s3PtOgNIX2tkcaT/7DX1XwUCYA0V8V8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0NURE QkQwQkRCMzczRUQzQTAzNDg1RjZCNjQ3MUE0RkZFQzM1RjU1RgAKCRBkcaT/7DX1 X3PFAPwJk+V+9zZ6g3tNNzBIU18ySpgSWvkpF04T4IiC+tWNsAEAgXWGZk/lnjiq vexVCJgrmYP+VsbDun4M0Pq+K9+U0lI= =YD2B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AP0VoO/oFQHPp88o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 06:42:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96014F05F7; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khng300@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x235.google.com (mail-oi1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNk2F4jp7z4c6T; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khng300@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x235.google.com with SMTP id g69so10408588oib.12; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:42:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S/+yD7p+NB7GBf5IX9rouQwU8tKiyYUJdTu/RX+uFBc=; b=siPVRboCREg4GQXI8TM4MZwz4nepB/MIoMh/B+QFo+8UrEszvwYSYcR9DYNsQ+AZ/b 9g90EUIdTq9oROewHUIn/4sLIDanK240+mtOBaPuYDYjqVP/jXLR0kYh/p9Hn55LmT5g +dbvxdENbVuN2gEl3PbdI3G6lvCBmAbYxMjvHZ6euQ+7MdKzRFNEM5/IZfj5EWTlCWGM +urJnq2f8rHs7q8vu6FD1hpXJrE6RNPM7oJYw2Uuax6khQzbj8p8AOaz/QTdsDvt7S5a EyoJGagOwshVY31gWSfVHkDOHaEuodN6sQHgQoCIz92rK1Ypzaqun7E2mgpDLkh73edE 5YAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S/+yD7p+NB7GBf5IX9rouQwU8tKiyYUJdTu/RX+uFBc=; b=Ip8c+bY4c2YIMIlZyDeBn0w66IRS0xv4FN+oNW2lQehBn2W27nxn8Pk55sTX9AqQyD 8fsRJ6et5/jdr6kll16c3WqMizwk016PT6dyShc+az9ealR/HxkBTRSatwUAHMSS6eOq sIvciocuB+4HgekdsGNReufjHL4wqHRfXB4CXByFJPl7+jmJsOFoZWHlxU+h4pZQQlpH orYgoUSGZhA2ecBVhkOsG2LNJD/CNXwNH+klMDQrPKmTEoIwRXPrLBfAcKrIkyrLro+y ezTHWxT+6kKcyr326qumWRYCtdX7TSnTFw1iibD6CUdfPMbd4MWVNwP5LWv2Ey4BaIDG 9SoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533TqcKcQ+y7otaRzFctQwXP3127aiPDUtEzGzHFrqIzZT5Db32A pDWoj43/WA2SzA9NMRqecDZuJq/57iclmnvkHRqoLw58etawID+VRiU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzC4MFWAlN/gHt8jkmi4PAdfhJvTuEAzGSVzz1VTe3uGWdP+/39dm12yyi/mJvH20yLrENZsaf/jqDbKQdv4Bo= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4402:: with SMTP id r2mr7658702oia.56.1611470548510; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:42:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9025f616-ba3f-ef44-603a-824bd8e4e20a@cedro.info> In-Reply-To: From: Ka Ho Ng Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:42:16 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Microphone stopped working in Frefox and Chrome To: Hans Petter Selasky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNk2F4jp7z4c6T X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 07:55:46 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:42:29 -0000 It is only the case when no pulseaudio daemon is running. Ka Ho On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 1:37 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote= : > > On 1/23/21 11:54 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El d=C3=ADa s=C3=A1bado, enero 23, 2021 a las 08:56:46p. m. +0100, Matt= hias Apitz escribi=C3=B3: > > > >> El d=C3=ADa s=C3=A1bado, enero 23, 2021 a las 02:35:37p. m. +0100, Tom= asz CEDRO escribi=C3=B3: > >> > >>> Quick peak at PulseAudio homepage shows that we work on an outdated v= ersion. > >>> FreeBSD uses 13.0 from 2019-09-13 while the latest release is 14.2 fr= om > >>> 2021-01-16. There is a mention on hot plug in the manual page. Maybe = we > >>> should update the port first and see if the issue is solved already i= n the > >>> upstream? :-) > >>> > >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/. > >> > >> I have updated the port audio/pulseaudio locally on my system to now > >> > >> $ pkg info | grep pulse > >> pulseaudio-14.2_1 Sound server for UNIX > >> > > > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D252957 > > I think Firefox was switched to the OSS backend now? > > --HPS > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 08:50:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B354F3166; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 08:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNmsy60cHz4hxS; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 08:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.48.85] (helo=c720-r368166.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3b6K-0002u3-6A; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:50:28 +0100 Received: from c720-r368166.fritz.box (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c720-r368166.unixarea.de (8.16.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 10O8oRxf008360 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by c720-r368166.fritz.box (8.16.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 10O8oRfG008359; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: c720-r368166.fritz.box: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:50:26 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Ka Ho Ng Cc: Hans Petter Selasky , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microphone stopped working in Frefox and Chrome Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Ka Ho Ng , Hans Petter Selasky , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , desktop@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <9025f616-ba3f-ef44-603a-824bd8e4e20a@cedro.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r368166 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.48.85 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNmsy60cHz4hxS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 08:50:31 -0000 El día domingo, enero 24, 2021 a las 02:42:16p. m. +0800, Ka Ho Ng escribió: > It is only the case when no pulseaudio daemon is running. > > Ka Ho Whatever FF makes use of, what I want to achieve is that: while FF is already running, plug-in an USB headset and audio (mic and audio out) switches to it (/dev/dsp2.0), and when I disconnect the headset, audio out switches back to the speaker (/dev/dsp1.0). How could this work in our beloved FreeBSD? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub ¡Con Cuba no te metas! «» Don't mess with Cuba! «» Leg Dich nicht mit Kuba an! http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2020/12/25/en-video-con-cuba-no-te-metas/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 09:22:54 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7F24F3FB2 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNnbK1rLyz4kHx for ; 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Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:08:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: IPFW | Too many dynamic rules? To: Michael Sierchio , FreeBSD Mailing List References: From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! 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Knowing so little about ipfw, I think it will be time to raise my learning curve on it. Can you hint me where I can get more information on nub level? Especially the remark Michael made "The lifetime of dynamic rules is, by default, way too long." intriques me. What is the exact result shortening them? Do I undermine ipfw protection by giving it too less or too much time to check incoming requests? Best, Jos Op 22-1-21 om 1:58 schreef Michael Sierchio: > > Vell succes! > Dank je! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 11:31:25 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DEB4F825F for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNrRc2w3Cz4sp1 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=kkGr5qEYfyD1D+dP7sdwgBRbfnQ4z+dG3toWdROi2q0=; b=DpXJWRdCvAlUBsdyZ0wQcvohBx woVI+n8LTt1F0tvvL9qt5vdV+T1hnfvliWV3S9CGHYCFwn50M93Bzr1oVWFaHatY8jqpqRoViC/da EVg53cgtPz8yGHyrIp/iyg0lU/W5d1MIjG3+oZ2iT4uFt8CjxPKxv7ftBC5c8RGt6THw=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l3dc1-0002hZ-VH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:31:21 +0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:31:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QEA6DsRaC/eAbhMl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNrRc2w3Cz4sp1 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=DpXJWRdC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:31:25 -0000 --QEA6DsRaC/eAbhMl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jacques Foucry wrote: > > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from > > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. > >=20 > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > >=20 > > > After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a day: > > >=20 > > > pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > >=20 > > > The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. > > >=20 > > > I was unable to find the core file. > > >=20 > > > Is anybody experiencing similar issues? > > >=20 > > > 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 >=20 > I know it's stupid, and you can forgot my answer, but did you recompile f= rom > sources i915kms.ko module? The one which come with pkg is buggy. No, I did not, just installed from pkg. I'll recompile/install from the ports if you advise so. Is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. Is anything wrong with them? >=20 > > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ >=20 > Whaou a fidonet address :-) I use to be a point. 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FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions,freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 13:35:45 -0000 While browsing the filesystem, i found the folder /usr/share/misc and now i am curious, what kind of files and why they were put there. The list on "13.0-ALPHA2 stable/13-f76393a63" looks like this: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3170 Jan 24 09:18 ascii -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 5265 Jun 25 2020 bc.library -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 374 Jan 24 09:18 birthtoken -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 43643 Jan 24 09:18 bsd-family-tree -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6633 Jan 24 09:18 committers-doc.dot -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 23555 Jan 24 09:18 committers-ports.dot -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 29343 Jan 24 09:18 committers-src.dot -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 19304 Jan 24 09:18 definitions.units -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1390 Jan 24 09:18 flowers drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 Jun 25 2020 fonts -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3267 Jan 24 09:18 gprof.callg -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1064 Jan 24 09:18 gprof.flat -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25 Jan 24 09:18 init.ee -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 15481 Jan 24 09:18 iso3166 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12422 Jan 24 09:18 iso639 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2391 Jan 24 09:18 latin1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1177518 Jan 24 09:18 magic -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6653320 Jan 24 09:18 magic.mgc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 941 Jan 24 09:18 mail.help -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1284 Jan 24 09:18 mail.tildehelp -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1133 Jan 24 09:18 mdoc.template -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 582 Jan 24 09:18 operator -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4165 Jan 24 09:18 organization.dot -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1246724 Jan 24 09:18 pci_vendors -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 10913 Jan 24 09:18 scsi_modes -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 212427 Jan 24 09:18 termcap -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1343488 Jan 24 09:18 termcap.db -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 37626 Jan 24 09:18 usb_hid_usages -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 206318 Jan 24 09:18 usbdevs -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7081 Jan 24 09:18 windrv_stub.c There are - some more, some less technical "lookup" files, like: ascii, birthtoken, flowers, iso3166, iso639, latin1,... - some FreeBSD project related files, like: bsd-family-tree.dot, committers-*.dot, organization.dot These would better be part of the documentation. BTW, on 12.x they are out of date: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=251701 - some configuration an scripting examples, like: init.ee, gprof.callg, gprof.flat,... IMHO better placed in .../examples - development(?) related files, like: pci_vendors, scsi_modes, usb_hid_usages, usbdevs, windrv_stub.c I don't know if these files are used during build-/runtime - some files which are used during (build-?/)runtime: magic, magic.mgc, termcap, termcap.db Shouldn't these be in a more specific place? They are pretty static, so the "var" part in /var/db does not fit, but services.db is located there, too. - is the fonts folder in base, or did some port create it? I'm not sure. 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The one which come with pkg is buggy. >=20 > No, I did not, just installed from pkg. I'll recompile/install from the > ports if you advise so. Well, I've recompiled and installed graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod, now my drm_info output looks like this: https://termbin.com/481e I shall see how often Xorg will crash now. But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? 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Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:41:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:41:25 +0100 From: Jacques Foucry To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Gdev8N1FMRF3koGu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNwgG3b7sz3Mpk X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b=R0R7Qdfc; dkim=pass header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b=uwwSDYlU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=foucry.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net designates 2a01:4f9:4a:1fd8::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[foucry.net:+]; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le dimanche 24 janv. 2021 =E0 18:31:21 (+0700), Victor Sudakov =E0 =E9crit: > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko fr= om > > > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > > > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > > > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. > > >=20 > > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > >=20 > > > > After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a d= ay: > > > >=20 > > > > pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > > >=20 > > > > The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. > > > >=20 > > > > I was unable to find the core file. > > > >=20 > > > > Is anybody experiencing similar issues? > > > >=20 > > > > 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 > >=20 > > I know it's stupid, and you can forgot my answer, but did you recompile= from > > sources i915kms.ko module? The one which come with pkg is buggy. >=20 > No, I did not, just installed from pkg. I'll recompile/install from the > ports if you advise so. That the advice I read here and in other FreeBSD mailing list, I just trans= mit the message. > Is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The default > FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and > /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. I know but each time I upgraded from release to another I had to recompile= =20 drm-fbsd12.0-kmod which seems to be a meta package. > Is anything wrong with them? Not good enough to answering :-( > > > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ > >=20 > > Whaou a fidonet address :-) I use to be a point. >=20 > You still can, even over IPv6. 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The files in that directory (!) are files shared for applications that belong to the FreeBSD operating system. Some of them even have a manpage you can consult, for example "man ascii". Just a few comments: > The list on "13.0-ALPHA2 stable/13-f76393a63" looks like this: > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3170 Jan 24 09:18 ascii ASCII character set. > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 5265 Jun 25 2020 bc.library Library for the arbitrary precision calculator, see "man bc". > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 43643 Jan 24 09:18 bsd-family-tree The BSD family tree. :-) > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 Jun 25 2020 fonts Fonts to be used by the console subsystem, if supplied by the sysadmin; the preinstalled fonts at /usr/share/vt/fonts (vt) and /usr/share/syscons/fonts (sc) are provided by FreeBSD. > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1177518 Jan 24 09:18 magic > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6653320 Jan 24 09:18 magic.mgc File recognition magic, see "man file". > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 582 Jan 24 09:18 operator C language operator precedence. > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1246724 Jan 24 09:18 pci_vendors Brand and model codes. > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 212427 Jan 24 09:18 termcap > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1343488 Jan 24 09:18 termcap.db Terminal capabilities database, see "man 5 termcap". > There are > - some more, some less technical "lookup" files, like: > ascii, birthtoken, flowers, iso3166, iso639, latin1,... Correct - there are programs that use them. > - some FreeBSD project related files, like: > bsd-family-tree.dot, committers-*.dot, organization.dot > These would better be part of the documentation. Maybe. Those files however are maintained directly within the FreeBSD OS distribution. The switch to "base pkg" could move them into some documentation package. > - some configuration an scripting examples, like: > init.ee, gprof.callg, gprof.flat,... > IMHO better placed in .../examples Not sure if they are examples or presets / defaults (in which case they probably could be in a defaults/ subdirectory at some other location). > - development(?) related files, like: > pci_vendors, scsi_modes, usb_hid_usages, usbdevs, windrv_stub.c > I don't know if these files are used during build-/runtime Maybe they are produced for reference by the release building process, or consumed by it? Not sure. :-) > - some files which are used during (build-?/)runtime: > magic, magic.mgc, termcap, termcap.db > Shouldn't these be in a more specific place? They are pretty static, > so the "var" part in /var/db does not fit, > but services.db is located there, too. In the past, /etc/termcap was a real file, now it is a symlink to that misc/ subdirectory. Maybe /usr/share/db would be a possible location for "non-variable" databases? > - is the fonts folder in base, or did some port create it? I'm not sure. Whatever is _not_ in /usr/local belongs to the OS (minus a few obvious exceptions). As mentioned, this directory is to be used by the console subsystem if the sysadmin chose to install them, but see "man 1 vidcontrol" that this is _not_ a default location so the full path would have to be provided if the sysadmin wants to use such a ("nonstandard") font. > What is the history behind /usr/share/misc? More or less, it's a place for miscellaneous files, those that should not "pollute" /etc or /var/db, but somehow _have_ to reside somewhere. There are historical reasons, as you can see from some of the headers, such as @(#)flowers 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/8/93 which makes the file almost 30 years old. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:32:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED884FF159 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from mailout10.t-online.de (mailout10.t-online.de [194.25.134.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNxpH1z45z3h8F for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de (fwd32.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.144]) by mailout10.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id CD44E418B721; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from esprimo.local (SU-PAkZSZhz+4YsorMvhDanEP6H65zNPLxcRucbWNEZDAh1tU8z1paPUZx9TYFpQ9C@[217.226.184.156]) by fwd32.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1l3hNl-35sYsa0; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:32:53 +0100 Received: by esprimo.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17D3958096; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:32:53 +0100 From: Christoph Brinkhaus To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ID: SU-PAkZSZhz+4YsorMvhDanEP6H65zNPLxcRucbWNEZDAh1tU8z1paPUZx9TYFpQ9C X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1611502373-0000C7C3-6A698AE8/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: d239022a-06bb-4b88-8511-72ecafa99ecc X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNxpH1z45z3h8F X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of c.brinkhaus@t-online.de has no SPF policy when checking 194.25.134.21) smtp.mailfrom=c.brinkhaus@t-online.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[217.226.184.156:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[194.25.134.21:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[t-online.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[194.25.134.21:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[194.25.134.21:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[194.25.134.21:from]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:32:56 -0000 Am Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 09:28:11PM +0700 schrieb Victor Sudakov: Hi Victor, > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from > > > > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > > > > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > > > > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. > > > > > > > > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > > > > > After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a day: > > > > > > > > > > pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > > > > > > > > > The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. > > > > > > > > > > I was unable to find the core file. > > > > > > > > > > Is anybody experiencing similar issues? > > > > > > > > > > 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 > > > > > > I know it's stupid, and you can forgot my answer, but did you recompile from > > > sources i915kms.ko module? The one which come with pkg is buggy. > > > > No, I did not, just installed from pkg. I'll recompile/install from the > > ports if you advise so. > > Well, I've recompiled and installed graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod, now my > drm_info output looks like this: https://termbin.com/481e > I shall see how often Xorg will crash now. > > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > Is anything wrong with them? According to the FreeBSD Forum the packages are build for the oldest supported branches. For the 12 series it is currently 12.1. The drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is one of the very rare cases where is a conflict between FreeBSD-12.1 and FreeBSD-12.2 exists. Therefore it must be build from ports for FreeBSD-12.2 installations until FreeBSD-12.1 is end of life. Kind regards, Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:34:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8C4FF170 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNxrP0srMz3hMK for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.94.3]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M26iv-1l1ERG0exV-002YyF; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:34:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:34:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-Id: <20210124163441.b0f6445f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IkhC7Bk9KbmBkHbbryeqxOr9wNhElfdjxfaDti75PKFTv4RCY2p J2/7wl0PN/C8/o1G1PsQXlBqBLKo1jY4rHX7bB85tYULRnJOJ+NJhGjihGIIPVwCcrpAyZn CCLfKVkAGhNM4FkSvCLvIUHkWJWxPZn9sjhAIeB6meLNC0D4YNr+zNdFY8364jObe4XXf/W cY7eUbHDv0hGMXUtTJRaw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:e1gHtDULQL0=:cNzl2wAMF6BdqsUr7ATmbM T2P00xLH3KZu037rQfRmvcjBegGOJvSxceG8OgTzbTXYern9oNVD0cwEuPr3qgvJVSjO2ZMSQ +Kqtbl2W1jOSV+h8sF3bTIXerGVwJbZRsadBBRppIhnV0KVX4SmoGhXnj0oJr2O+8QD/EOqH1 XZey7h2G/h67qLJdl2cvP/mIIPc695DfEj+Mcz7nIQP+LmO14UhH3X2b9oqYzWxqlNxLXiMu1 Ipa51WxaCb0K8lD/LC2dx0aBIe8Z2dQVii4VmaKiy65Jd/tetr7/uWN0K1kQjLzm4GwqI3j3p hYkerb+PjmwATI3ihKh2XPG35CMxLCiEYjXRqcQTzWILjoxJ0Y+DyIhexEbGf4I3YSlrdlWqy HxJWgC0I7x6XH+iEtbSLmSoIj0W8edbAa3EqL5UCf9Z9tdE8+kUoxto5uRNh/ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNxrP0srMz3hMK X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.5.94.3:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:46 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:28:11 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? Modern X hooks deeply into kernel structures, direct rendering is the default, there is no text mode anymore, and Linux is the primary driver for the graphics stack. So - you're stuck with KMS if you want to use X. :-( This particular port is a meta-port that contains several drivers for various brands and models, and it requires the kernel source to be able to actually compile the modules. > The > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > Is anything wrong with them? Wrong binary interface, if I remember correctly, that's why it was neccessary to recompile them manually, and use them instead of what the OS provides. Strange, isn't it? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:44:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EDF4FFBBF for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNy3d3b5Mz3hkD for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10OFiMsY035424; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 10:44:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 10:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Victor Sudakov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNy3d3b5Mz3hkD X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@monochrome.org has no SPF policy when checking 71.163.255.121) smtp.mailfrom=chris@monochrome.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[71.163.255.121:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[71.163.255.121:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:44:30 -0000 This seems like almost the exact issue I had a few days ago. See Tomasz's reply to my post 'drm-kmod kills FreeBSD'. Once I built graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20201016 from ports, X worked well from then on. The one from graphics/drm-kmod crashed my system instantly. /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko didn't crash anything, but also didn't work. On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Jacques Foucry wrote: >>>> I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from >>>> the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled >>>> /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem >>>> freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. >>>> >>>> Victor Sudakov wrote: >>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> After a recent pkg upgrade, Xorg started crashing several times a >>>>> day: >>>>> >>>>> pid 71319 (Xorg), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 6 >>>>> >>>>> The log https://termbin.com/68b1 looks pretty normal to me. >>>>> >>>>> I was unable to find the core file. >>>>> >>>>> Is anybody experiencing similar issues? >>>>> >>>>> 12.2-RELEASE-p2, xorg-server-1.20.9_1,1, xorg-drivers-7.7_6 >>> >>> I know it's stupid, and you can forgot my answer, but did you >>> recompile from sources i915kms.ko module? The one which come with >>> pkg is buggy. >> >> No, I did not, just installed from pkg. I'll recompile/install from the >> ports if you advise so. > > Well, I've recompiled and installed graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod, now my > drm_info output looks like this: https://termbin.com/481e > I shall see how often Xorg will crash now. > > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > Is anything wrong with them? > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ > -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:49:04 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742394D004E for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNy8v3wMHz3jFQ for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=VeM+4/oTtCrDGR85MkuhLaGFBvrWWkaIuTrrJZarnWg=; b=aglLsYtVLIwNgHC8tvSt1m9vMO FxGtP0FFmgnYOzOU0u47di/4TLZxx1bW36FmjVH3nN6vswz0dyE51EXNa7+1crinqNQFt5bhAenGL HMzTNiJYkNMUAUpixN+4loNBIW4rFpnDsvMobMXJMvIEE4Bx2XCH5+t6qdLKiIpVehoM=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l3hdN-0005wz-K3; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:49:01 +0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:49:01 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Christoph Brinkhaus Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3nr2q+61kMiTb5wj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNy8v3wMHz3jFQ X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=aglLsYtV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[t-online.de]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:49:04 -0000 --3nr2q+61kMiTb5wj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: [dd] > >=20 > > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The > > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > =20 > > Is anything wrong with them? >=20 > According to the FreeBSD Forum the packages are build for the oldest > supported branches. For the 12 series it is currently 12.1. The > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is one of the very rare cases where is a conflict > between FreeBSD-12.1 and FreeBSD-12.2 exists. Therefore it must be > build from ports for FreeBSD-12.2 installations until FreeBSD-12.1 is > end of life. My question was a bit different.=20 Why are the /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko modules, those that come with the GENERIC kernel, not good enough? There is no problem keeping *them* in sync with the current installation. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --3nr2q+61kMiTb5wj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgDZbtAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0TjUIAJm+ZsMRQ4dusZnFgXNYFAC/ b9d1F/RjZPe7HrV3Ymp49jD+dhl3KW+YbyOONNqg4bQdWHBhICIazWuqm9vtU8uR HbRmw4gZPz52KqkL0pQne7jZybET4i0IymNqs4kefg3l84ltP2D7nlasetsWsp5A HQb503pesM7n2J7t/84PMpKlumht87SK0r9K8zhhmoJGyobwynt95i7C4T+FiJfN wag3DJhzTpDoy9zhfOCIDOySLPmIb7cOeFgBu770w5Cd3NyoStkztS47LICsk+nN wCXBiEPONi6G6v8reEjNCimJHHSA8oLc01QuYWMhx78OeB2lVDfSQo2bxWOus6w= =4Asf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3nr2q+61kMiTb5wj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:51:50 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6806C4D0232 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNyD554HQz3jVS for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=d3YyUL4DKNjBd3ZAMwgv+Q4XfPY9yEgoxcKxxOzsuPY=; b=BTpqts5XawVz0FwO2KYsZC5TAT UlRatojyr2S494ddA6qasm0HauciyL2s9OQOs2OGH27g4nHmTVMSleDdX95nRufc3+rUadEXQ644m 8WDUjC9p8eWoAXgwEWA6mxQnQwx31CJ5LROsP7cRu1oDmOfIYwQOKf4RDQLl2nhvHfFQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l3hg4-0005zI-73; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:51:48 +0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:51:48 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4MnNA3Jeq3BQ36sL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNyD554HQz3jVS X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=BTpqts5X; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:51:50 -0000 --4MnNA3Jeq3BQ36sL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Hill wrote: > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko didn't crash anything, but also didn't work. The question is then, why do we have it in the default installation? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --4MnNA3Jeq3BQ36sL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgDZeUAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0m7IH/AvRN8Pxnj0SvPXiUHsNdMYz rAmRmbVgbZnejohhQDmkqD6j4oe4OTDz83dy+D321yeoi4pKCO+5YFvDIUNVYKiC 0F6+Pg7HBM3RRXiYoYbJUJqySsipgnEUzuIKKahffx7WNFCHThK+ZpKJsAMd95T7 h43Nc6OFUAavQklPAQVQz4LgtBL8teZCLUTjDyMlYKO3lgVtvPQ8oswr+Gw6H++m 9mnDGog0BeB2fv5K2XjPhWMPhzXMm7BhLm/ArMSnXVF470PoSaoQnI+uYdYW1M+J cwvoIlD7DJUAteLs5qKAvZoelpOFkPhFJhLIM9GlzXuy94hPmYp4sCMvsTnSRr8= =IqIK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4MnNA3Jeq3BQ36sL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 16:00:59 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E194D08C8 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNyQf4TH5z3k0w for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10OG0v8o035483; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:00:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:00:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Victor Sudakov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNyQf4TH5z3k0w X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@monochrome.org has no SPF policy when checking 71.163.255.121) smtp.mailfrom=chris@monochrome.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[71.163.255.121:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[71.163.255.121:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:01:00 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Chris Hill wrote: > >> /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko didn't crash anything, but also didn't work. > > The question is then, why do we have it in the default installation? Perhaps it works with graphics chipsets other than yours and mine. > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ > -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 16:10:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A699F4D0E71 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from mailout12.t-online.de (mailout12.t-online.de [194.25.134.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNydt6Km8z3kyN for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from fwd22.aul.t-online.de (fwd22.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.127]) by mailout12.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F0AA41AD6AA; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:10:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from esprimo.local (JJTTqTZroh8yYU3TcAiyN3kL1HixZPDSZ85QwXjKC0NfWxOPivdfTUhY3rfehgOZ8L@[217.226.184.156]) by fwd22.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1l3hyI-0AWo6a0; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:10:38 +0100 Received: by esprimo.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C85F958111; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:10:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:10:37 +0100 From: Christoph Brinkhaus To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ID: JJTTqTZroh8yYU3TcAiyN3kL1HixZPDSZ85QwXjKC0NfWxOPivdfTUhY3rfehgOZ8L X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1611504638-00011FFC-9049F54C/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 90c4e8f3-708c-4d50-84f3-d1aa3b273f8f X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNydt6Km8z3kyN X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of c.brinkhaus@t-online.de has no SPF policy when checking 194.25.134.22) smtp.mailfrom=c.brinkhaus@t-online.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[194.25.134.22:from]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[194.25.134.22:from]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[217.226.184.156:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[t-online.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[194.25.134.22:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[194.25.134.22:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:10:43 -0000 Am Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:49:01PM +0700 schrieb Victor Sudakov: > Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > [dd] > > > > > > > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? The > > > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > > > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > > > > > Is anything wrong with them? > > > > According to the FreeBSD Forum the packages are build for the oldest > > supported branches. For the 12 series it is currently 12.1. The > > drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is one of the very rare cases where is a conflict > > between FreeBSD-12.1 and FreeBSD-12.2 exists. Therefore it must be > > build from ports for FreeBSD-12.2 installations until FreeBSD-12.1 is > > end of life. > > My question was a bit different. I am sorry for my misunderstanding. > > Why are the /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko modules, > those that come with the GENERIC kernel, not good enough? > > There is no problem keeping *them* in sync with the current installation. At least i915kms.ko works fine with my setup. It is loaded via kld_list="i915kms" in /etc/rc.conf. Iif I am not wrong it should get the module from /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko. The module works together with the Intel driver xf86-video-intel. I have no experience with the drm2.ko module. In the past there have been entries in the Xorg.log that the driver will be discontinued at FreeBSD-13. There is still a lot of time until I have to upgrade to FreeBSD-13. Therefore I have ignored the warning and the hassle with the compilation of the drm stuff. With the newest Intel driver even the warning in the Xorg.log is gone. Kind regards, Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 16:50:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31B34D1DF2 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (mail.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNzWT6qL0z3n0N for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1l3iaS-003RXQ-P3; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:50:04 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 10OGn8Ld035249 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:49:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 10OGn8oq035248 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:49:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: Files in /usr/share/misc Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:49:08 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20210124163010.4a8d45d1.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNzWT6qL0z3n0N X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of news@mips.inka.de has no SPF policy when checking 2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c) smtp.mailfrom=news@mips.inka.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[news]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inka.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202113, ipnet:2a04:c9c7::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:50:15 -0000 On 2021-01-24, Polytropon wrote: >> -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 582 Jan 24 09:18 operator > > C language operator precedence. Also available as the operator(7) man page. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 17:40:39 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEDE4D36F4 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-lj1-x22e.google.com (mail-lj1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DP0df2gXQz3rQZ for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-lj1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p13so12514591ljg.2 for ; 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The default > FreeBSD 12.2 installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and > /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. This graphics/drm-kmod seems to ba "metaport" that initially or with pkg installs automatically the dependencies. But I noticed that rebuilding and reinstalling that port does NOT rebuild and reinstall dependencies. This is why that drm-kmod-fbsd12xxx seems only important (if you use Intel). I am not sure why these modules are not distributed with default kernel but this stuff is Linux KPI port so that may have something to do with GPL tainting..? Also the full path needs to be specified to the drm modules otherwise the default (those distrubuted with kernel that does not work with new cards) are loaded and those does not work (quite obvious isnt it). Brave New World of Bleeding Edge Linux Style :-) :-) However feedback from the lists and forums could have some impact on a release organization :-) >> amdgpu even compiled by hand crashes kernel quite often and it's dangerous >> to use. >> >> you can always fall back to VESA (for bios system) or SCFB (for uefi >> system) generic framebuffer driver. > > Do you remember how to do that, as I have no xorg.conf? The Xserver just > finds whatever it finds. 1. Remove this new drm (drm-kmod, i915, amdgpu, etc) packages + load commands from /etc/rc.conf or /boot/loader.conf. 2. Install x11-drivers/xf86-video-scfb (if you use uefi) or x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa (if you use bios). 3. Generate a default config with Xorg -configure, then copy config from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. 4. Find a "Device" that matches your video card and set Driver "scfb". Try running as root first, if that works try running as user, in case of problems look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, https://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 18:11:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D3D4D4D65 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DP1KD6ppBz3tnk for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.94.3]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MmU5P-1llI5M0o3V-00iTOo; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:11:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:11:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-Id: <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kFiYzFVwm6Uf2WhMTJ3+DFPPEzRaauXfa/TKfHG350zvpCYMCCB rC6NFA+aqSjvUeGSdO6/xu4qlMcT0rRWm75UZ1Lc9LPpT7muFNtrVOjeSPMbLxoW9FL2vBk nX6GW+RQR5i2YGjm2T4EvJcqCek3aFFMnsGJmIc3cd82q5AsNPjEo/btMkb2g9aPlpjpi0+ Yw+0G3EeXDjIC+T8s1cOQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qPssnwRnC40=:jy7lzbvf8muZTT2pURH8in LkjzUKLXxXUumWnvAeHunetfOHMD5gVknXNeAsBOvA3RO5n55I++wXqT1+HfadxgLNQCllNi7 zrGhpA5c5Wj9P+w/YW6D/PlTOVRbeKiVKRvQ+1cQ8JgMY63zuw2PkfowDquRzAbxut1WKlmUn YfYXxBgqImp/zKZkFkGAdyEGoJb/6AnqWfSRCpZu1DMZAACDFXPYKKAfz4hWbqUwjhEhBCqgW lFoct17TtyAoTyTPL9GRY+uV1uAOaHsG1CZn5yaVivHA8Cvcx9g84W3koajQBkLzIHwiOCeAz iAp1NLnnJgBdf0kWvuTIPDh2k6jHBOGNcN4s7y/y69LjCBbQR3hM0NkL/4QPwAG3Y7UIUqQmn k/fil3mzuPeNk2GAsu1rryp3M7StmVBFitWRjmomRlM57n4DCb6Pf1w9nubHS X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DP1KD6ppBz3tnk X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.59 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.5.94.3:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[217.72.192.73:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[217.72.192.73:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[217.72.192.73:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[217.72.192.73:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:11:30 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:40:37 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On 24.01.2021 12:37, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > [...] > > Do you remember how to do that, as I have no xorg.conf? The Xserver just > > finds whatever it finds. > > 1. Remove this new drm (drm-kmod, i915, amdgpu, etc) packages + load > commands from /etc/rc.conf or /boot/loader.conf. > > 2. Install x11-drivers/xf86-video-scfb (if you use uefi) or > x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa (if you use bios). > > 3. Generate a default config with Xorg -configure, then copy config from > /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > 4. Find a "Device" that matches your video card and set Driver "scfb". > > Try running as root first, if that works try running as user, in case of > problems look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log :-) Won't that leave X in VESA mode? Any halfway modern desktop environment or Linux-derived window manager will be slow and useless this way, not to start about using Firefox or LibreOffice or playing video... that's why it's recommended you also know what graphics card you have _and_ install the xf86-video- package that contains the appropriate driver. While VESA should always work as a "lowest level solution", it will probably cause problems for running or at least using actual programs. So like in common Linux-style, we now have two moving parts where historically were zero (because the correct one would have been loaded automatically): kernel DRM driver (kmod KPI) plus X11 driver. And among those, if you're using nVidia hardware or AMD / Radeon, there is even _more_ choice. :-) In most cases, just starting X without a configuration file will do the right thing, given the required parts are present. Only older hardware might need manual intervention. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 19:09:13 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4A74D6793 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-lj1-x229.google.com (mail-lj1-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::229]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DP2bs0S58z4RQJ for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-lj1-x229.google.com with SMTP id f11so12638347ljm.8 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:09:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:organization:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xfNSEhFNjll3XN9APIAycX1C0BvDWPPeAlo7M9/lM80=; b=AgVuDMZhW2LPgb37HDnyYbH24M13mRUa/LuQL3uCZvab2lCDYrFvkwzy8p9QIRfJY/ BafXLootMnTpa9CDA1kBP6TSyzsf1Vy3HZ5qBBYM017tf6es3wi2j5AqDN2ASMznsArP /fIHYqkodEbeI1tw5WZShC9SSF9nC6YJhd/0PPacfMeCKtQ5cjGq/1tE9oqnIayaFdGJ o4R5RH+FD5/nHwJ11KRb78WOsyaXzrmw+cRHranxq6UZBXX8UQ8Of/zqy2DrzkwmLhFT zZbpQIgz1TBE+ykwWxCkb58igsxHnyMLhx644Vq2q07HYr1O8VidsUgtFlhjGM93SFzt Gw5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xfNSEhFNjll3XN9APIAycX1C0BvDWPPeAlo7M9/lM80=; b=RJkyVtXdvJCuo6q9M47eVZE4LhpqDG0Sdg77TqH6f0sbBM+5CXqkfUriNqfKC75Qi7 HJ4GkZh+bNu41uET5qOl1gW/ecppk8zJsTmp8UhZRArl2wS/40YZRa/ARy+z6ofcUoRz ODnthKp9m5+wiqWeVMnwTasmLzMuzj+4pxyU4+r5RMrEfsxROo9riVVRYna3s0+naAoy d7CjV+9Cb8bYlGc6/mPcPq8YfvwTle61ISDkr7SD5LXEfbjTvY+mwGKQF5nfVHLf7Wdb pgS7jvPpXcmdHyR38IU/NYA+3gf7am3J5avWEXbJaFU92dtip2XvVByhSY1gGooekr/4 86Yw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530+ZOs4cLShnY37F5y3oc1IM3WL8L5KrSpcGHk3CgqnUrrgV8fa m+JWUcmJ3e7lOJEQULKG8504R6S7EA5X4xFk X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWeA5cRg9IYloRdtRdhF78kElCH4QkXxtYnX5EpfT5IcnJIUbbedWtxwurhz6pnXpUBWx2kA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:300d:: with SMTP id w13mr689148ljw.383.1611515351055; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([31.179.178.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t25sm1538529lfl.105.2021.01.24.11.09.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:09:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day To: Polytropon Cc: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Organization: CeDeROM Message-ID: <382bee4e-46ca-41b2-12b2-f07295b88b74@cedro.info> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 20:09:07 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DP2bs0S58z4RQJ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=AgVuDMZh; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::229) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::229:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::229:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::229:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:09:14 -0000 On 24.01.2021 19:11, Polytropon wrote: > Won't that leave X in VESA mode? Any halfway modern desktop > environment or Linux-derived window manager will be slow and > useless this way, not to start about using Firefox or LibreOffice > or playing video... that's why it's recommended you also know > what graphics card you have _and_ install the xf86-video- > package that contains the appropriate driver. While VESA should > always work as a "lowest level solution", it will probably cause > problems for running or at least using actual programs. The question was about that fallback solution. I worked many many years on VESA driver and now I work on SCFB. At least its stable and it works. With xf86-video-intel I had serious issues on my laptop. So I switched to drm-kmod-fbsd and X11 modesetting because I need multi-monitor setup that is not available with scfb. The amdgpu crashes my desktop workstation so I switched back to scfb. OpenCL does not work yet so I usually connect over SSH. > In most cases, just starting X without a configuration file > will do the right thing, given the required parts are present. > Only older hardware might need manual intervention. Not with the scfb on my desktop. I had to create and modify the xorg.conf as described :-) I do not complain. I just want to focus on my work. In case of problems I switch to a mobile phone or macbookpro just to get the job done in 5 minutes that I usually have. In my free time I try to (sup)port the new stuff. I want to use it I should also add my brick to make it work :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, https://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 19:30:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366DF4D77C5 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DP34f2CnZz4TQs for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DP33y5YjTzFghG; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1611516635; bh=gQQU2fBnVZeMVJSTpsKMJ+7m3lCJYZ+wwpVs17+88Pc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=PtM3cf0SwD7zZ0zAxl0x0moNfPfUNCZQM3+zdNNKZPwIt0E7aqToHUQb02L+cG9gN 7CxQTnaWGuxfZaXoQcZc4hDhJOcXRfkXI6Z7Iy35ecUzA3GQAFi+TOqE+GDCD6urfD wxS3q/qNwPaNHoYe0mFq06lh3H0sr5AV1SSWk4gQ= X-Riseup-User-ID: 96BEFBC461B528CAFA579AC869A90B76D8435694A7EC4DD5AE98996722E94352 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DP33w0KPrz5vSS; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 20:29:58 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: <20210124202958.1984ba6a@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DP34f2CnZz4TQs X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=PtM3cf0S; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:30:43 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:11:23 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >Only older hardware might need manual intervention. Hi, I didn't read the complete thread, so I don't know if this was already mentioned. Relatively "modern" Intel GPUs need hardcore intervention on Linux machines. If FreeBSD isn't affect, it's nice. Latest Linux kernels suffer from a regression, you either need to migrate from the "intel" to the "modesetting" driver or you need to downgrade to an older, still supported LTS kernel. However, soon or later even LTS kernel support will be dropped by kernel.org. My machine is affected, my relatively "modern" GPU is actually very old, but I won't get rid of issues with the latest and greatest Intel GPU, so I switched to the "modesetting" driver, but using it is a PITA. Firfox suffers from short hangs, Chrome can't be used at all, even not by following a recommended workaround, to use the "disable GPU" feature. I'm back to the "intel" driver... [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf Driver "intel" #Driver "vesa" #Driver "modesetting" ...and build old LTS kernels. JFTR those halfway modern desktop environments or Linux window managers work very good when using the "modesetting" driver. Just important software doesn't work properly. Maybe FreeBSD is affected, too? A few links are provided by https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Installation . "Note: Some (Debian & Ubuntu, Fedora, KDE) recommend not installing the xf86-video-intel driver, and instead falling back on the modesetting driver for Gen4 and newer GPUs (GMA 3000 from 2006 and newer). See [1], [2], Xorg#Installation, and modesetting(4). However, the modesetting driver can cause problems such as Chromium Issue 370022 and vsync jitter/video stutter in mpv." Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 03:02:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ADB4E5518 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DPF5z5WRCz4xw0 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BD5C24E57ED; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2694E5685 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Received: from pmta31.teksavvy.com (pmta31.teksavvy.com [76.10.157.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.teksavvy.com", Issuer "DigiCert SHA2 High Assurance Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPF5y3p4mz4xnB for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) IronPort-SDR: nbpbq6ddkzH9rDzzXk72v4L80dZ82hHlVL4xBz0J53EbzdQfc3DzwpHE4tZNZLit/p7DsRKoVi SuVY0U7ZXK6w== X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GaEgCBNA5g/yWexEVigQmFRwGUYYF?= =?us-ascii?q?qCCWEAJhECwEBAQEBAQEBAQkTGQECBAEBhkUCJTgTAgMBAQsBAQEFAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?GBAIChlqGfhGBcxkIAQGDIoMHskOBATOFWYMwgUSBOI1kG4IAgREnDIc5AQY?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQhlhSwEg1MBKVEJgSQuGZwmV5tbgwGBHZpGBQofgSORd49eqVGMTIFtgXs?= =?us-ascii?q?zGggwgyVPGQ2OKgMXjkQjA2cCBgoBAQMJVwGIdwGCRQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GaEgCBNA5g/yWexEVigQmFRwGUYYFqCCWEAJhECwEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQkTGQECBAEBhkUCJTgTAgMBAQsBAQEFAQEBAQEGBAIChlqGfhGBc?= =?us-ascii?q?xkIAQGDIoMHskOBATOFWYMwgUSBOI1kG4IAgREnDIc5AQYBAQhlhSwEg1MBK?= =?us-ascii?q?VEJgSQuGZwmV5tbgwGBHZpGBQofgSORd49eqVGMTIFtgXszGggwgyVPGQ2OK?= =?us-ascii?q?gMXjkQjA2cCBgoBAQMJVwGIdwGCRQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.79,372,1602561600"; d="scan'208";a="153493634" Received: from 3s1.com ([69.196.158.37]) by smtp13.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 24 Jan 2021 22:02:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (mylocalhost [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by 3s1.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 10P31tTp056558 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:02:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) From: David Banning Subject: clamd appears to hanging To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:01:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (3s1.com [192.168.1.50]); Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:02:10 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPF5y3p4mz4xnB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 76.10.157.38 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of david@skytracker.ca) smtp.mailfrom=david@skytracker.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[76.10.157.38:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[76.10.157.38:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skytracker.ca]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5645, ipnet:76.10.128.0/19, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[76.10.157.38:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 03:02:32 -0000 I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd 9.3. Freshclam appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang on startup, which prevents my server from booting. I don't see anything in the log; Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> +++ Started at Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> clamd daemon 0.98.1 (OS: freebsd9.3, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Running as user clamav (UID 1037, GID 1037) Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Log file size limited to 1048576 bytes. Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Reading databases from /var/db/clamav Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Not loading PUA signatures. Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Bytecode: Security mode set to "TrustSigned". Sun Jan 24 09:59:16 2021 -> Loaded 8576476 signatures. Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Removing stale socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Unix socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 200 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Recursion level limit set to 16. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Files limit set to 10000. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Core-dump limit is 4294967295. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxEmbeddedPE limit set to 10485760 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxHTMLNormalize limit set to 10485760 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxHTMLNoTags limit set to 2097152 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxScriptNormalize limit set to 5242880 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxZipTypeRcg limit set to 1048576 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Archive support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Algorithmic detection enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Portable Executable support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> ELF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Mail files support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> OLE2 support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> PDF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> SWF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> HTML support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Self checking every 600 seconds. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Listening daemon: PID: 75312 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> MaxQueue set to: 100 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Set stacksize to 1114112 Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning of the log. 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To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: Michael Sierchio , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPKD61Swnz56xy X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CK+udIkP; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::331 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::331:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::331:from:127.0.2.255]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::331:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 06:08:07 -0000 On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 3:08 AM Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Thanks for your help, Michael. > > Knowing so little about ipfw, I think it will be time to raise my > learning curve on it. Can you hint me where I can get more information > on nub level? Especially the remark Michael made > > "The lifetime of dynamic rules is, by default, way too long." > > intriques me. What is the exact result shortening them? Do I undermine > ipfw protection by giving it too less or too much time to check incoming > requests? > > Best, Jos > > Op 22-1-21 om 1:58 schreef Michael Sierchio: > > > > Vell succes! > > > Dank je! > ___ > No, you don't undermine security. You enhance it a tiny bit, but significantly. A stateful firewall works by creating a temporary rule allowing traffic that would be rejected. Simple example is a DNS query. It is sent out and, in typical ipfw setups, outgoing UDP packets create a dynamic entry to allow for the reply. To make dynamic rules work efficiently, space is reserved for the maximum number of concurrent dynamic rules that are to be allowed. Unless there is further traffic for a given rule, a dynamic rule is deleted after a preset lifetime. You can look at all ipfw dynamic parameters with 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw | grep dyn_'. You can get the description of a sysctl with the "sysctl -d OID". The default lifetimes are long for the "modern" Internet. The most significant one is probably dyn_udp_lifetime. It would be unusual for it to take anywhere near the default 30 seconds to get a response, but setting it too short will result in failures. Shortening it will clear out old entries more quickly and reduce the chance of running out of space for dynamic rules. A number of years ago, one of the developers wrote a code that sent out UDP packets to a large number of remote systems. A very short time later it did the same thing, but from new sockets. That meant a whole new set of dynamic rules was created every second and sat there for 30 seconds. This quickly filled the available space and replies to further queries were blocked. Not just for his program, but for the whole system. Oops! -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 07:11:11 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F64EC21B; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPLcv6Fwfz3CBp; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from weatherwax.trouble.is (weatherwax.trouble.is [IPv6:2a00:1098:82:3a::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "weatherwax.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: philip/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B90D32BF31; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from rincewind.trouble.is (rincewind.trouble.is [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2a:1715::1:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "rincewind.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by weatherwax.trouble.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPLct0D5nz1xcV; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rincewind.trouble.is (Postfix, authenticated sender philip) id 4DPLcq6M6Bz6FlV; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:07 +0000 (UTC) From: "Philip Paeps" To: mj-mailinglist@gmx.de Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Files in /usr/share/misc Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:11:03 +0800 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5757) Message-ID: <62438B8D-08D3-40D4-829D-B8B23064B0F0@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:12 -0000 On 2021-01-24 21:35:40 (+0800), mj-mailinglist@gmx.de wrote: > - some FreeBSD project related files, like: > bsd-family-tree.dot, committers-*.dot, organization.dot > These would better be part of the documentation. > BTW, on 12.x they are out of date: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=251701 I think we've never bothered merging those to older stable branches because there's not really any point. It might be worth doing so just before a release or something but there's very little benefit. > - development(?) related files, like: > pci_vendors, scsi_modes, usb_hid_usages, usbdevs, windrv_stub.c > I don't know if these files are used during build-/runtime E.g. pci_vendors is used by pciconf(8) and windrv_stub.c is used by ndiscvt(8). I'm sure the others are used by similar utilities that escape my memory. > - some files which are used during (build-?/)runtime: > magic, magic.mgc, termcap, termcap.db Shouldn't these be in a more > specific place? They are pretty static, so the "var" part in /var/db > does not fit, > but services.db is located there, too. The magic* files are used by file(1). See termcap(5) for the others. > - is the fonts folder in base, or did some port create it? I'm not > sure. Hah. 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Hi Martin, Have you read =E2=80=9Cman hier=E2=80=9D, by chance? This might elucidat= e things a bit. 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FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[76.10.157.36:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skytracker.ca]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:52:07 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:09:43 -0000 I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang, which prevents my server from booting. I don't see anything in the log; Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> +++ Started at Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> clamd daemon 0.98.1 (OS: freebsd9.3, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Running as user clamav (UID 1037, GID 1037) Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Log file size limited to 1048576 bytes. Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Reading databases from /var/db/clamav Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Not loading PUA signatures. Sun Jan 24 09:53:57 2021 -> Bytecode: Security mode set to "TrustSigned". Sun Jan 24 09:59:16 2021 -> Loaded 8576476 signatures. Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Removing stale socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Unix socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock Sun Jan 24 10:08:40 2021 -> LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 200 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Recursion level limit set to 16. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Files limit set to 10000. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: Core-dump limit is 4294967295. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxEmbeddedPE limit set to 10485760 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxHTMLNormalize limit set to 10485760 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxHTMLNoTags limit set to 2097152 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxScriptNormalize limit set to 5242880 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Limits: MaxZipTypeRcg limit set to 1048576 bytes. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Archive support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Algorithmic detection enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Portable Executable support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> ELF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Mail files support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> OLE2 support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> PDF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> SWF support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> HTML support enabled. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Self checking every 600 seconds. Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Listening daemon: PID: 75312 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> MaxQueue set to: 100 Sun Jan 24 10:08:41 2021 -> Set stacksize to 1114112 Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning of the log. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 10:01:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAD14D9F54 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DPQNt5b5tz3Qr0 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BFC004D9ED0; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8AC4DA1AA for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DPQNt4kWDz3Qkk for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DPQNm0nhTz2fjV3; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 02:00:56 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: clamd appears to hanging From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20210124160938.GA82891@skytracker.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 02:00:55 -0800 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20210124160938.GA82891@skytracker.ca> To: David Banning X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.0 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPQNt4kWDz3Qkk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[dated,1611936580.6d1518]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:01:03 -0000 > On 24 January 2021, at 08:09, David Banning = wrote: >=20 > I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam = appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang, which prevents my = server from booting. > I don't see anything in the log; >=20 >=20 > Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. > The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning of = the log. Clamd may be waiting on freshclam. However, it still takes clamd = "forever" to load the virus database. You have 2 options: 1. If you connect to the machine via ssh, then edit /etc/rc.d/sshd and = add FILESYSTEMS to the REQUIRE line. That will cause sshd to become = active before clamd tries to start up. You will be able to poke around = and see what is going on. 2. If you use a directly connected terminal, then disable clamd and = freshclam in /etc/rc.d. Boot up and then start them up manually. You = do need to run freshclam first though. =20 In any case, be prepared to wait a long time for clamd to start. -- Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 10:06:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184AF4DA56F for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPQWW2bNxz3h1B for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27018953 for ; 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It works fine with > > Audacity. I am unable to attend videocalls anymore from a FreeBSD box > > where is worked fine recently.. no matter if google chat or zoom :-( > > > > Did anyone observe such problem? > > It seems something got broken on PulseAudio or Firefox / Chrome. I am > working on recent 12.2-RELEASE AMD64. Microphone works in other > applications (i.e. Audacity). > > Quick fix is to use OSS backend in OSS over about:config in Firefox: > media.cubeb.backend oss ^^^ this recent addition/change to firefox is excellent. I can now do video conferencing using my webcam (logitech C920) microphone & camera, and have the audio coming out the USB DAC audio speakers (configured by the usual sysctls). thanks jbeich@ & hps@ for firefox & webcamd that make all of this work. A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 17:31:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583E14EA400 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPcNs1d8kz4knp for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10PHVW1P032997 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:31:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: ruby pkg and user gem/bundle privilege mismatch Message-ID: <9c121e6b-f6d3-0734-22e3-16a7ad6dda72@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:26:50 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:31:33 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPcNs1d8kz4knp X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:31:42 -0000 Some time ago I installed ruby vi pkg install (as root). Now working in my normal user account, I run into privilege violations when trying to do a bundle install: Errno::EACCES: Permission denied @ rb_file_s_rename - (/home/me/.gem/ruby/2.6/cache/rake-13.0.3.gem, /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/2.6/cache/rake-13.0.3.gem) An error occurred while installing rake (13.0.3), and Bundler cannot continue. Make sure that `gem install rake -v '13.0.3' --source 'https://rubygems.org/'` succeeds before bundling. gem install rake -v '13.0.3' --source 'https://rubygems.org/' ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::FilePermissionError) You don't have write permissions for the /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/2.6 directory. This is all true... However, there is a /home/me/.gem/ruby/2.6/cache/rake-13.0.3.gem Is this a path issue, or some larger privilege issue? /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/libexec:/home/me/bin I installed rails as root using "gem install rails --version '=5.2.4' What's the difference between a pkg install of rails and "rem install"? Is it possible to mix a system ruby installation and user gem installs? Do I need to install rvm in order to do that? 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Not sure about ruby but in Python you have system wide packages that you install as root and you can use them but not modify as standard user. Alternatively, you can install you own local Python Virtual Environment (venv) as standard user, so you can get independent working environment that does not depend nor modify the system packages (except you only need Python and VENV packages). You can then modify that local venv as standard user, add new packages, remove packages, etc. You can even have multiple different virtual environments separated for a different tasks (i.e. django web development, zephyr embedded environment, etc). Summing up you should never install local packages as root to use them as standard user. You should rather create your own small virtual environment that you can fully control as standard user with no impact to the system (or when you cannot modify system for instance on the shared hosting environment). This may come helpful: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/486995/ruby-equivalent-of-virtualenv Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, https://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 19:07:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F074ECD2D for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPfWR2KwWz4s8T for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10PJ7RXh033238; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:07:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: ruby pkg and user gem/bundle privilege mismatch To: Tomasz CEDRO , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <9c121e6b-f6d3-0734-22e3-16a7ad6dda72@dreamchaser.org> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <3b533461-c2bf-2068-d965-6ca6ed2c70e5@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:02:44 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:07:27 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPfWR2KwWz4s8T X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:07:32 -0000 On 1/25/21 10:47 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On 25.01.2021 18:26, Gary Aitken wrote: >> (..) I installed rails as root using "gem install rails --version >> '=5.2.4' What's the difference between a pkg install of rails and >> "rem install"? Is it possible to mix a system ruby installation and >> user gem installs? Do I need to install rvm in order to do that? > > Not sure about ruby but in Python you have system wide packages that > you install as root and you can use them but not modify as standard > user. > > Alternatively, you can install you own local Python Virtual > Environment (venv) as standard user, so you can get independent > working environment that does not depend nor modify the system > packages (except you only need Python and VENV packages). You can > then modify that local venv as standard user, add new packages, > remove packages, etc. You can even have multiple different virtual > environments separated for a different tasks (i.e. django web > development, zephyr embedded environment, etc). > > Summing up you should never install local packages as root to use > them as standard user. You should rather create your own small > virtual environment that you can fully control as standard user with > no impact to the system (or when you cannot modify system for > instance on the shared hosting environment). I have lang/ruby26 installed system-wide so it is available to everyone. > This may come helpful: > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/486995/ruby-equivalent-of-virtualenv Thanks; rather confusing, but in this case setting the environment variable GEM_HOME seems to be all that was needed. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 19:16:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF964ECC20; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj-mailinglist@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPfkL46kqz4sH4; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj-mailinglist@gmx.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1611602216; bh=BWgfC5n6zl8TiXZdQXoSwdPk0Cl/bR+ESTFpY4OnH+o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=kpOGwEh8Mp75RsjkMIeIm/K5Yp8BrcUDm88hpXN/9/PQIKXoUZBRElnEvBeXudT7E I2pATc7cNPqwMvq05UZ2EkjJE66lfcJlM7tCoi8fZdRkFc+47rrfajpEhZBHcZIS5h rpFrRj7Kz0HP2gbWTi59WPzKthXGU7DqFQv3StjE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [88.130.78.58] ([88.130.78.58]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-gmx-bap78.server.lan [172.19.172.136]) (via HTTP); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:16:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: mj-mailinglist@gmx.de To: Philip Paeps Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Files in /usr/share/misc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:16:56 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <62438B8D-08D3-40D4-829D-B8B23064B0F0@freebsd.org> References: <62438B8D-08D3-40D4-829D-B8B23064B0F0@freebsd.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OseJtacxGGr+dMsUKwsBRuCIHZptIB6SqbGP4NiGm0WSHrSfnnVqZ+LwCKGAohi2g+54+ aw5fQTsgpkYjWKFGRCLLipsDGp87WfpWOQM8GZPdeMkfsYpJkU9GX+tj0g2hlToGlqaLKTiMAkp4 mRjZqXsXBdwmh0/bndDdbpESfWi4kHI2XsHxhm8o6LHiu/Ye2Or68kWynSgUcmFTgFekgPUSYkfV oFnb0E/8gX3gtkss06QFQLIA94QzbNL1hJ6Hvz7I3t76tgdt7o6jEIEwgTNtOl00Nd4g3c7s1GnG Pg= X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Vxs0TMQxjnM=:jpBuCvZHWsYrUaGeeYrOrc 4o8PGg2RWpPA86OPYGfhqtl7HhPLIPWdOGIcliGcJ1RqylzIc2YtMpVgLXtZOWU1ZLlEEWli6 sWTPhGsFN2Bn8o+tA+avPnsW30rKlug0endLKx7usCNtK4s5lkRgyxppJMYoSuUxv2xjWPqra pN696WZC2wGr6Jah8gGAT5mwBB/yPpxZ15Ihm6O3BTKVFNnRizM9GBjkmzUsYG6UcgXF/T7bn 0JYjNd+Eypge3MPLGF7DNv5wkvWvBQqzyjyUVrf5bkveWXgW2XLoydnCmoS3ZGksFAa0ChGpL h0t8jwfJTjE1DkHHCTa31RsTQvL7rcwt1D2LGIXCvz797T/Wrf0ZGX6TjqUhqV8mFf8AKOoJ1 9yjNKCSGP/wsZFifzjr3x1II3DTdaETXrlYGnDWShiVsKQI/TtrCtD9xB0fjoPg68i/BZDYL7 HIRgsi2xIww9LGYo+sV0pwEMyIPjhu6kMgqh/pK9REN1O00DQIohm8JtRPPR8UGq09q4S+ulr n/6L8onb8REhD2E6Id6gw13R+reGgHLkaxL+R3+gE6i0WHJzeoFpeXuwInnKCJtXVQ3cX3ioI gjlNLSanccjRI= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPfkL46kqz4sH4 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:16:59 -0000 Thank you all for the input. So, this directory is a little bit like the bottom drawer on my desk, where i put things, i don't know where to put else :) the hier man page states: misc/ miscellaneous system-wide ASCII text files About half of the files are ASCII text, according to the file command. The others are UTF-8, ISO-8859 or even binary. There seems a little bit of divergence from the "text" :) -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 19:23:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B94D4ED0EB for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPfsz6c4Pz4t6B for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10PJNYs0033288 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:23:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: packages to be removed; how to determine port conflicts? Message-ID: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:18:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:23:34 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPfsz6c4Pz4t6B X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:23:36 -0000 Attempting to install node.js port (node10, node12, node14), I get this: pkg install node10 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. The following 29 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REMOVED: FreeCAD: 0.18.4_10 firefox: 80.0_3,1 openshot: 2.5.1.236 py37-qt5-webkit: 5.13.1_1 py37-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.13.1_1 qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_2 thunderbird: 68.11.0_1 New packages to be INSTALLED: Box2D: 2.3.1 c-ares: 1.16.1 double-conversion: 3.1.5.19 node10: 10.23.1 Installed packages to be UPGRADED: ... Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: ... Installed, Upgraded, and reinstalled seems ok, but removed is a problem. How to tell why they are being removed? FreeCAD was reinstalled two days ago, so it seems like it should be reasonably up to date. I get more-or-less the same basic list regardless of which nodexx pkg I try to install. Is this simply a matter of reinstalling after they are removed, or does this indicate an incompatibility which will prevent installing at all? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 19:00:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339F84EC7EE for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@daveyelectric.ca) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DPfMk6N8Dz4rcW for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@daveyelectric.ca) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D923B4EC7ED; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E3D4EC7EC for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@daveyelectric.ca) Received: from pmta31.teksavvy.com (pmta31.teksavvy.com [76.10.157.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.teksavvy.com", Issuer "DigiCert SHA2 High Assurance Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPfMk5Pq9z4rnf for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@daveyelectric.ca) IronPort-SDR: tFfYWasn5xoiWSC8tXiISxQIeVJa2eEA4pns8coX5FCunXN3+0qdsHJMrOeClL9PNOluUF8Gy6 05iEvCx9sCsg== X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FQDgDBFA9g/yWexEViHgEBCxIMQIF?= =?us-ascii?q?EC4I8AWRXAWGEQJATAQEBAQEBBoEMCCUDg32GL5AZFIFdCwsBAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?JGAsJAQIEAQEChAREAoF5AiU2Bw4CAwEBCwEBAQUBAQEBAQYEAgKGTgyDVYE?= =?us-ascii?q?HAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARYCDVRpAQEBAwEBIQ8BBRYgCxALDgoCAiY?= =?us-ascii?q?CAicBCSYGAQcFAgQBAQEBFgMEgwUBgmElD7JNgTKFWYNFgT4GgQ4qhm6GUCY?= =?us-ascii?q?beYEHgTgMgWh+PoJdAQSBJwERAgEIgzGCYASCPmBREFgDFmwkLwGdD5tbgwG?= =?us-ascii?q?JMItFhm4FCh+TGo9elB6LH4oUh1WEd4FdDGwjcDMaCDA7gmkTPRkNVpZQhWI?= =?us-ascii?q?jAzARJgIGAQkBAQMJVwGLPQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FQDgDBFA9g/yWexEViHgEBCxIMQIFEC4I8AWRXAWGEQ?= =?us-ascii?q?JATAQEBAQEBBoEMCCUDg32GL5AZFIFdCwsBAQEBAQEBAQEJGAsJAQIEAQECh?= =?us-ascii?q?AREAoF5AiU2Bw4CAwEBCwEBAQUBAQEBAQYEAgKGTgyDVYEHAQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQEBARYCDVRpAQEBAwEBIQ8BBRYgCxALDgoCAiYCAicBCSYGAQcFA?= =?us-ascii?q?gQBAQEBFgMEgwUBgmElD7JNgTKFWYNFgT4GgQ4qhm6GUCYbeYEHgTgMgWh+P?= =?us-ascii?q?oJdAQSBJwERAgEIgzGCYASCPmBREFgDFmwkLwGdD5tbgwGJMItFhm4FCh+TG?= =?us-ascii?q?o9elB6LH4oUh1WEd4FdDGwjcDMaCDA7gmkTPRkNVpZQhWIjAzARJgIGAQkBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QMJVwGLPQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.79,374,1602561600"; d="scan'208";a="153534378" Received: from 3s1.com ([69.196.158.37]) by smtp13.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 25 Jan 2021 14:00:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mylocalhost [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by 3s1.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 10PJ06vj083419; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:00:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dave@daveyelectric.ca) Subject: Re: clamd appears to hanging To: Doug Hardie , David Banning Cc: questions@freebsd.org References: <20210124160938.GA82891@skytracker.ca> From: David Banning Message-ID: <485b6c93-6729-becd-5e01-262299327e1c@daveyelectric.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:00:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (3s1.com [192.168.1.50]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:00:22 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPfMk5Pq9z4rnf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[dated,1611936580.6d1518]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:45:02 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:00:51 -0000 thanks for that - it turns out that when I waited,  spamd -does- eventually start - I think it took 45 minutes - knowing that it was operating was only from sending the eicar virus to myself - it shows that it caught it in the maillog,  but no email cleaned version of the email arrived,  and there is no header in clean emails to show they have been checked - but it works.  That's the good news.  It would be helpful to have -something- that tells me that it is operating - even an occasional clean scan note in maillog would be great. I'll keep an eye to see if it continues to take a long time to start at boot time - I may have to have it -not- start at boot, and start it manually. On 2021-01-25 5:00 a.m., Doug Hardie wrote: >> On 24 January 2021, at 08:09, David Banning wrote: >> >> I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang, which prevents my server from booting. >> I don't see anything in the log; >> >> >> Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. >> The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning of the log. > Clamd may be waiting on freshclam. However, it still takes clamd "forever" to load the virus database. You have 2 options: > > 1. If you connect to the machine via ssh, then edit /etc/rc.d/sshd and add FILESYSTEMS to the REQUIRE line. That will cause sshd to become active before clamd tries to start up. You will be able to poke around and see what is going on. > > 2. If you use a directly connected terminal, then disable clamd and freshclam in /etc/rc.d. Boot up and then start them up manually. You do need to run freshclam first though. > > In any case, be prepared to wait a long time for clamd to start. > > -- Doug > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 25 19:55:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D954EF638 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPgZv68TKz3Dpn for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id i9so692177wmq.1 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:55:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=Z1ZIwoldfxDNJh/RCWJSDU/H+4HWR9tyzW4WSDL256Q=; b=EcYlbUPnJb4HpiBpAkpihvHToclvatf0UvRdSznbaVOUiSR31Bk7XuIE8fUdu719E6 ekudgzL6GT9xyX/M2HGBqtKYHYf6OGDymODbRN8sRwdJNK64/aFhhWISYdbsXXIhYKb5 2YOMj/XT0ugTkUBbT1dFuqDWliND/0nu3+EW1dZeyPxo9E6V5MCTMfuqZendd8P1IrwC a04CTumbbRqyMz/euVCGRUDJDaQ+WvzPlLWlJ+j31Zvnqdlv6fbi7prmfjhhNsl+mHlM hA173DwrqYfxZGyl1peFc4TTEN0/wMmpOZO+VlQvBFef3lrvX26dW0MV96Nui0JlVMBw WIrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=Z1ZIwoldfxDNJh/RCWJSDU/H+4HWR9tyzW4WSDL256Q=; b=sOqz45OU0ue9yAKGIbvWfkYyVmCwNk96EDzwTMyXtaRQvicEw6Yh3ffM9LhJX4uGx1 R1DTpyAm6h2aGm3q+5DE9S9EWWrwVPeJwkbj9EfLiiOitnwvBZU89gfmiejdv61lIsCw 7fNXogcyGdg6651wFJ4ahalpddog+69CkQg7rqT5bZy3XTUrHedbDkjYpgCT0iWmLGXV hgkT+tIHBcZN1X4mjg/O+LvQfprsFTppWbH984ToEa2hqI/re1yihwEAkHd16kvT7bTX 3DTkjcq2fqf7oGM6pAAmHReRzupf1+QIIWAlo5VvoOphjhcxuTA0YONWCRundpxBaOQg AlUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532KkBFfg5avlSOONsLgJTayy54aCHcJ9mwxWjG9ob0OAeNm7DAG Bl8HKM5ovkVrVSPi+Z+Qn/GeWeGjd22x0g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJybVYfTgkLNnqmWpOmWQ206urhWyddcA5XGorAytrEXp+SSHv553ANSuwZDRWF3aJXaVWQLSw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:18d:: with SMTP id 135mr1571648wmb.33.1611604533925; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <3ed3296c-80d6-6d36-f7bc-835bfcb1738e@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:32 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPgZv68TKz3Dpn X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=EcYlbUPn; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::333 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::333:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::333:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::333:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:55:36 -0000 On 25/01/2021 19:18, Gary Aitken wrote: > Attempting to install node.js port (node10, node12, node14), I get this: > > pkg install node10 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up to date. > All repositories are up to date. > The following 29 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): > > Installed packages to be REMOVED: >         FreeCAD: 0.18.4_10 >         firefox: 80.0_3,1 >         openshot: 2.5.1.236 >         py37-qt5-webkit: 5.13.1_1 >         py37-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.13.1_1 >         qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_2 >         thunderbird: 68.11.0_1 > > New packages to be INSTALLED: >         Box2D: 2.3.1 >         c-ares: 1.16.1 >         double-conversion: 3.1.5.19 >         node10: 10.23.1 > > Installed packages to be UPGRADED: > ... > > Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > ... > > Installed, Upgraded, and reinstalled seems ok, but removed is a problem. > How to tell why they are being removed?  FreeCAD was reinstalled two days > ago, so it seems like it should be reasonably up to date.  I get > more-or-less > the same basic list regardless of which nodexx pkg I try to install. > > Is this simply a matter of reinstalling after they are removed, or > does this > indicate an incompatibility which will prevent installing at all? > > Gary Please: uname -a grep url /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf At for example there are some architecture-specific gaps in the table. 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:43:39 -0000 On 25.01.2021 20:02, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Summing up you should never install local packages as root to use >> them as standard user. You should rather create your own small >> virtual environment that you can fully control as standard user with >> no impact to the system (or when you cannot modify system for >> instance on the shared hosting environment). > > I have lang/ruby26 installed system-wide so it is available to everyone. There are two cases: 1. You are using system wide packages and these are used by other packages and programs. But you cannot modify them as standard user. 2. You are creating your own local dedicated virtual environment that you can control as standard user, including installing additional packages that are not system wide. The later is better because you control what you have and what version with no impact on system wide configuration and system configuration does not impact you either. This is especially important when you host your solution on a server where you have no administrative access. This is very common nowadays for web application hosting that use JavaScript, Ruby, Python, etc. You assume some system wide starting point like basic interpreter and web server, then you bootstrap your own local virtual environment to make bigger things work on your local account. Another good example here is the Automated Testing and CI (Continuous Integration) where build/testing scripts can bootstrap several local dedicated environments with a bit of different setup to test different components version impact, test regressions, etc :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, https://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 01:50:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54E4FAC58 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DPqSC1LrKz4Vy6 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2E4A74FAE26; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0C04FAE25 for ; 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dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 76.10.157.36 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of david@skytracker.ca) smtp.mailfrom=david@skytracker.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skytracker.ca]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[76.10.157.36:from]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[76.10.157.36:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5645, ipnet:76.10.128.0/19, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[76.10.157.36:from] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:50:19 -0000 Turns out all is good - I see there is a header now in each email; X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 210125-8, 2021-01-25), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean which I am assuming is from Clamav. On 2021-01-25 2:00 p.m., David Banning wrote: > thanks for that - it turns out that when I waited,  spamd -does- > eventually start - I think it took 45 minutes - knowing that it was > operating was only from sending the eicar virus to myself - it shows > that it caught it in the maillog,  but no email cleaned version of the > email arrived,  and there is no header in clean emails to show they > have been checked - but it works.  That's the good news.  It would be > helpful to have -something- that tells me that it is operating - even > an occasional clean scan note in maillog would be great. > > I'll keep an eye to see if it continues to take a long time to start > at boot time - I may have to have it -not- start at boot, and start it > manually. > > > On 2021-01-25 5:00 a.m., Doug Hardie wrote: >>> On 24 January 2021, at 08:09, David Banning >>> wrote: >>> >>> I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam >>> appears to be working fine,  but clamd seems to hang, which prevents >>> my server from booting. >>> I don't see anything in the log; >>> >>> >>> Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. >>> The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning of >>> the log. >> Clamd may be waiting on freshclam.  However, it still takes clamd >> "forever" to load the virus database.  You have 2 options: >> >> 1.  If you connect to the machine via ssh, then edit /etc/rc.d/sshd >> and add FILESYSTEMS to the REQUIRE line.  That will cause sshd to >> become active before clamd tries to start up.  You will be able to >> poke around and see what is going on. >> >> 2.  If you use a directly connected terminal, then disable clamd and >> freshclam in /etc/rc.d.  Boot up and then start them up manually.  >> You do need to run freshclam first though. >> >> In any case, be prepared to wait a long time for clamd to start. >> >> -- Doug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 04:18:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E644FE7C2 for ; 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d="scan'208,217";a="153560502" Received: from 3s1.com ([69.196.158.37]) by smtp13.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 25 Jan 2021 23:18:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.3.101] ([82.102.30.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by 3s1.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 10Q4ILOt050167; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:18:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Subject: Re: clamd appears to hanging To: Doug Hardie , questions@freebsd.org References: <20210124160938.GA82891@skytracker.ca> <485b6c93-6729-becd-5e01-262299327e1c@daveyelectric.ca> From: David Banning Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:18:00 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (3s1.com [192.168.1.50]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:18:23 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPtl64HkRz4hCQ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 76.10.157.38 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of david@skytracker.ca) smtp.mailfrom=david@skytracker.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skytracker.ca]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[76.10.157.38:from]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[76.10.157.38:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5645, ipnet:76.10.128.0/19, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[76.10.157.38:from] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:18:27 -0000 Well - that was something - it looks like the Avast running on my Windows laptop alters the header of each email for viewing just on my laptop.  When I look at the headers of each email from the shell using Mutt there are no modified headers. But it -does- appears they are being scanned for viruses - here is a clip the log from /var/log/clamav/clamd.log Mon Jan 25 13:04:21 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 13:14:20 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 13:23:15 2021 -> fd[10]: Win.Test.EICAR_HDB-1 FOUND Mon Jan 25 13:24:37 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 13:27:19 2021 -> fd[11]: Win.Test.EICAR_HDB-1 FOUND Mon Jan 25 13:34:37 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 13:44:46 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 13:44:46 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 13:48:05 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 13:55:11 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 13:55:12 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 13:57:40 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:00:22 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:01:10 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:03:24 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:04:15 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:05:09 2021 -> fd[10]: OK Mon Jan 25 14:06:15 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. Mon Jan 25 14:06:15 2021 -> fd[10]: OK It shows the two emails I tried sending with the Eicar fake virus.  And /var/maillog shows simply; Jan 25 13:27:19 3s1 sm-mta[82154]: 10PIRI8l082154: milter=clmilter, quarantine=quarantined by clamav-milter So it appears to scanning for the viruses - I will look to see if there are any setting in the configuration files that might add the headers. On 2021-01-25 9:19 p.m., Doug Hardie wrote: > Clamav headers look like: > > X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.0 at mail > > I don't think those are from clamav.  Are you also using Avast? > > -- Doug > >> On 25 January 2021, at 17:50, David Banning > > wrote: >> >> Turns out all is good - I see there is a header now in each email; >> >> X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 210125-8, 2021-01-25), Inbound message >> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean >> >> which I am assuming is from Clamav. >> On 2021-01-25 2:00 p.m., David Banning wrote: >>> thanks for that - it turns out that when I waited,  spamd -does- >>> eventually start - I think it took 45 minutes - knowing that it was >>> operating was only from sending the eicar virus to myself - it shows >>> that it caught it in the maillog,  but no email cleaned version of >>> the email arrived,  and there is no header in clean emails to show >>> they have been checked - but it works.  That's the good news.  It >>> would be helpful to have -something- that tells me that it is >>> operating - even an occasional clean scan note in maillog would be >>> great. >>> >>> I'll keep an eye to see if it continues to take a long time to start >>> at boot time - I may have to have it -not- start at boot, and start >>> it manually. >>> >>> >>> On 2021-01-25 5:00 a.m., Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>> On 24 January 2021, at 08:09, David Banning >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam >>>>> appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang, which >>>>> prevents my server from booting. >>>>> I don't see anything in the log; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. >>>>> The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning >>>>> of the log. >>>> Clamd may be waiting on freshclam.  However, it still takes clamd >>>> "forever" to load the virus database.  You have 2 options: >>>> >>>> 1.  If you connect to the machine via ssh, then edit /etc/rc.d/sshd >>>> and add FILESYSTEMS to the REQUIRE line.  That will cause sshd to >>>> become active before clamd tries to start up.  You will be able to >>>> poke around and see what is going on. >>>> >>>> 2.  If you use a directly connected terminal, then disable clamd >>>> and freshclam in /etc/rc.d.  Boot up and then start them up >>>> manually.  You do need to run freshclam first though. >>>> >>>> In any case, be prepared to wait a long time for clamd to start. >>>> >>>> -- Doug >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 04:28:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362D4FEA9D for ; 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d="scan'208";a="155924027" Received: from 3s1.com ([69.196.158.37]) by smtp11.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 25 Jan 2021 23:28:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.3.101] ([82.102.30.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by 3s1.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 10Q4ScNi050635; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:28:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david@skytracker.ca) Subject: Re: clamd appears to hanging From: David Banning To: Doug Hardie , questions@freebsd.org References: <20210124160938.GA82891@skytracker.ca> <485b6c93-6729-becd-5e01-262299327e1c@daveyelectric.ca> Message-ID: <49ee8426-64f1-c081-8a98-a3c3e322937a@skytracker.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:28:17 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (3s1.com [192.168.1.50]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:28:40 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPtyy5YjFz4hlF X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 76.10.157.34 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of david@skytracker.ca) smtp.mailfrom=david@skytracker.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[76.10.157.34:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skytracker.ca]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all:c]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[76.10.157.34:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5645, ipnet:76.10.128.0/19, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[76.10.157.34:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:28:44 -0000 Well that was it.  It looks like changing a setting in /usr/local/etc/clamav-milter.conf did the trick. Thanks for your help.  Pardon me for top posting - it that still out of style on this board? On 2021-01-25 11:18 p.m., David Banning wrote: > Well - that was something - it looks like the Avast running on my > Windows laptop alters the header of each email for viewing just on my > laptop.  When I look at the headers of each email from the shell using > Mutt there are no modified headers. But it -does- appears they are > being scanned for viruses - here is a clip the log from > /var/log/clamav/clamd.log > > > Mon Jan 25 13:04:21 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 13:14:20 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 13:23:15 2021 -> fd[10]: Win.Test.EICAR_HDB-1 FOUND > Mon Jan 25 13:24:37 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 13:27:19 2021 -> fd[11]: Win.Test.EICAR_HDB-1 FOUND > Mon Jan 25 13:34:37 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 13:44:46 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 13:44:46 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 13:48:05 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 13:55:11 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 13:55:12 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 13:57:40 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:00:22 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:01:10 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:03:24 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:04:15 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:05:09 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > Mon Jan 25 14:06:15 2021 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK. > Mon Jan 25 14:06:15 2021 -> fd[10]: OK > > > It shows the two emails I tried sending with the Eicar fake virus.  > And /var/maillog shows simply; > > Jan 25 13:27:19 3s1 sm-mta[82154]: 10PIRI8l082154: milter=clmilter, > quarantine=quarantined by clamav-milter > > So it appears to scanning for the viruses - I will look to see if > there are any setting in the configuration files that might add the > headers. > > > On 2021-01-25 9:19 p.m., Doug Hardie wrote: >> Clamav headers look like: >> >> X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.0 at mail >> >> I don't think those are from clamav.  Are you also using Avast? >> >> -- Doug >> >>> On 25 January 2021, at 17:50, David Banning >> > wrote: >>> >>> Turns out all is good - I see there is a header now in each email; >>> >>> X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 210125-8, 2021-01-25), Inbound message >>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean >>> >>> which I am assuming is from Clamav. >>> On 2021-01-25 2:00 p.m., David Banning wrote: >>>> thanks for that - it turns out that when I waited,  spamd -does- >>>> eventually start - I think it took 45 minutes - knowing that it was >>>> operating was only from sending the eicar virus to myself - it >>>> shows that it caught it in the maillog,  but no email cleaned >>>> version of the email arrived,  and there is no header in clean >>>> emails to show they have been checked - but it works.  That's the >>>> good news.  It would be helpful to have -something- that tells me >>>> that it is operating - even an occasional clean scan note in >>>> maillog would be great. >>>> >>>> I'll keep an eye to see if it continues to take a long time to >>>> start at boot time - I may have to have it -not- start at boot, and >>>> start it manually. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2021-01-25 5:00 a.m., Doug Hardie wrote: >>>>>> On 24 January 2021, at 08:09, David Banning >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just installed clamd on an older version of Freebsd. Freshclam >>>>>> appears to be working fine, but clamd seems to hang, which >>>>>> prevents my server from booting. >>>>>> I don't see anything in the log; >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any pointers towards getting this up and running would be helpful. >>>>>> The Freebsd version and Clamd version are noted at the beginning >>>>>> of the log. >>>>> Clamd may be waiting on freshclam.  However, it still takes clamd >>>>> "forever" to load the virus database.  You have 2 options: >>>>> >>>>> 1.  If you connect to the machine via ssh, then edit >>>>> /etc/rc.d/sshd and add FILESYSTEMS to the REQUIRE line. That will >>>>> cause sshd to become active before clamd tries to start up.  You >>>>> will be able to poke around and see what is going on. >>>>> >>>>> 2.  If you use a directly connected terminal, then disable clamd >>>>> and freshclam in /etc/rc.d.  Boot up and then start them up >>>>> manually.  You do need to run freshclam first though. >>>>> >>>>> In any case, be prepared to wait a long time for clamd to start. >>>>> >>>>> -- Doug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 04:48:16 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBB14FF21B for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DPvPW004hz4jls for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10Q4mCnJ034581; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:48:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: packages to be removed; how to determine port conflicts? To: Graham Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> <3ed3296c-80d6-6d36-f7bc-835bfcb1738e@gmail.com> From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: <955c9c42-e613-8bbf-449c-6415fab3369a@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:43:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3ed3296c-80d6-6d36-f7bc-835bfcb1738e@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:48:13 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPvPW004hz4jls X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:48:16 -0000 On 1/25/21 12:55 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 25/01/2021 19:18, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Attempting to install node.js port (node10, node12, node14), I get this: >> >> pkg install node10 >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >> All repositories are up to date. >> The following 29 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> Installed packages to be REMOVED: >>         FreeCAD: 0.18.4_10 >>         firefox: 80.0_3,1 >>         openshot: 2.5.1.236 >>         py37-qt5-webkit: 5.13.1_1 >>         py37-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.13.1_1 >>         qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_2 >>         thunderbird: 68.11.0_1 >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >>         Box2D: 2.3.1 >>         c-ares: 1.16.1 >>         double-conversion: 3.1.5.19 >>         node10: 10.23.1 >> >> Installed packages to be UPGRADED: >> ... >> >> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >> ... >> >> Installed, Upgraded, and reinstalled seems ok, but removed is a problem. >> How to tell why they are being removed?  FreeCAD was reinstalled two days >> ago, so it seems like it should be reasonably up to date.  I get more-or-less >> the same basic list regardless of which nodexx pkg I try to install. >> >> Is this simply a matter of reinstalling after they are removed, or does this >> indicate an incompatibility which will prevent installing at all? ... > > Please: > > uname -a oops, my bad 11.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 1 08:22:33 UTC 2020 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > grep url /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf grep url /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/quarterly", I don't understand the pkg+ part of that. > At for example there are some architecture-specific gaps in the table. If I look at the page for node14: https://www.freshports.org/www/node14/# It shows: Runtime dependencies: ca_root_nss>=0 : security/ca_root_nss Library dependencies: libbrotlidec.so : archivers/brotli libcares.so : dns/c-ares libuv.so : devel/libuv libnghttp2.so : www/libnghttp2 libicui18n.so : devel/icu If I do: pkg info -d firefox | grep -E "ca_root|brotlidec|cares|libuv|nghttp2|icui18n" it shows nothing. Same for each of the other packages noted for deletion. So I don't understand why it will be deleted. 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To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> <3ed3296c-80d6-6d36-f7bc-835bfcb1738e@gmail.com> <955c9c42-e613-8bbf-449c-6415fab3369a@dreamchaser.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <5b1f32c5-6abd-67a3-9d74-c91e4ee089aa@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:47:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <955c9c42-e613-8bbf-449c-6415fab3369a@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DPwjp1K7Hz4mHD X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=gz/sPPDb; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::436 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.94 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.935]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:47:26 -0000 On 26/01/2021 04:43, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 1/25/21 12:55 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: >> On 25/01/2021 19:18, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> Attempting to install node.js port (node10, node12, node14), I get >>> this: >>> >>> pkg install node10 >>> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >>> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >>> All repositories are up to date. >>> The following 29 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): >>> >>> Installed packages to be REMOVED: >>>         FreeCAD: 0.18.4_10 >>>         firefox: 80.0_3,1 >>>         openshot: 2.5.1.236 >>>         py37-qt5-webkit: 5.13.1_1 >>>         py37-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.13.1_1 >>>         qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_2 >>>         thunderbird: 68.11.0_1 >>> >>> New packages to be INSTALLED: >>>         Box2D: 2.3.1 >>>         c-ares: 1.16.1 >>>         double-conversion: 3.1.5.19 >>>         node10: 10.23.1 >>> >>> Installed packages to be UPGRADED: >>> ... >>> >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >>> ... >>> >>> Installed, Upgraded, and reinstalled seems ok, but removed is a >>> problem. >>> How to tell why they are being removed?  FreeCAD was reinstalled two >>> days >>> ago, so it seems like it should be reasonably up to date.  I get >>> more-or-less >>> the same basic list regardless of which nodexx pkg I try to install. >>> >>> Is this simply a matter of reinstalling after they are removed, or >>> does this >>> indicate an incompatibility which will prevent installing at all? > ... >> >> Please: >> >> uname -a > > oops, my bad > 11.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep  1 08:22:33 UTC > 2020 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > >> grep url /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf > > grep url /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf >   url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/quarterly", > I don't understand the pkg+ part of that. >> At for example > there are some architecture-specific gaps in the table. > > If I look at the page for node14: >   https://www.freshports.org/www/node14/# > It shows: > Runtime dependencies: > >         ca_root_nss>=0 : security/ca_root_nss > > Library dependencies: > >         libbrotlidec.so : archivers/brotli >         libcares.so : dns/c-ares >         libuv.so : devel/libuv >         libnghttp2.so : www/libnghttp2 >         libicui18n.so : devel/icu > > If I do: >   pkg info -d firefox | grep -E > "ca_root|brotlidec|cares|libuv|nghttp2|icui18n" > it shows nothing.  Same for each of the other packages noted for > deletion. > So I don't understand why it will be deleted. > > Gary If you precede the attempt to install with this, is there any difference? pkg update -f Then maybe this: pkg install --ignore-missing node10 ---- Side note (hint): , for example, if you like anchoring. There'll be an explanation at in due course. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 08:50:25 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565C84E52BF for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQ0mw39LLz3Cwj for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=O0JYoogSFztEVmIhh3hX0gz39jIiHOlNTjwbA62cDA4=; b=kPlVagtid6CZMNwlWUtdTjiL1u YlJOLkIc+lchxleqvLqyrwDtuea/iPkWyTaE5QmsrNTirIM/60nbSU7A3ZuRgcrz48UCsmgUgv6ii 9uby2nVhTBJ7gCQbB/a1nhtRnXga6zNLszOYXWVkTKjnP4FDd0u5dFYPxzs64UEcvtqQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4K3E-0002iP-5t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:50:16 +0700 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:50:16 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qjl+YhETItgln6Dr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQ0mw39LLz3Cwj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=kPlVagti; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:50:25 -0000 --qjl+YhETItgln6Dr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. Now that I stopped using the kernel module /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and recompiled graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod from ports to use its /boot/modules/i915kms.ko, I have not seen a single coredump of Xorg yet. Thanks to all who have advised to recompile the graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod port for my system. I still fail to understand why /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko is there at all as part of the GENERIC kernel if it does not work. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --qjl+YhETItgln6Dr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgD9fIAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0A9YH/11yYCff8cbbXLTKBtD8pQ0W 0dtqprDl+8IcHfsG82wWLj6PX8NHGuu5sceNS6Gjf5mJ13BH7QV8RCUDfflY8lpk J6CLUX1WryNYmpP56NQwUSdvr8FN8CZQJuD54T2lOaR/MYz31jlbrhehw+OJ5XN5 0JwH0FyCxcuel57bveknm6AWGIhp21KPcc+L5HNDLAZ1+yzrIv/PAF85kfhr+1DT Cv9Qr4LHXpG/TBAhslEtV5Ca+7kdrrIyjGzREx7HXSktNSopWoLc1B9lJNqrwIFi tEy3vJGaN+v2Wp6b6/Vbhup5xhKCkndKJUnIbMwGaYRXLmmitwfJfWxJjpP7E9A= =55Gm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qjl+YhETItgln6Dr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 08:55:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51484E5A02 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQ0vC73BQz3DHC for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D851A011; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:55:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81D471A087; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:55:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: IPFW | Too many dynamic rules? To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Michael Sierchio , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <3cfe3c72-453b-e54e-3c56-9abf80f45be3@cloudzeeland.nl> From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! 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You enhance it a tiny bit, but > significantly. Interesting. Got it, thanks! Best,Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 09:05:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6774E5F9A for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQ16L2rWnz3DxH for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=r/RtvKZRSXbaZM+24Fp/hVYsaeAtv2O0tybaoSe6m8o=; b=CNfXW7YxE0+Zd2DH65osmF0erZ brluDMYTvfmM830W/WxKJtCtR6bjGysE2DrsWFvzvYmJoEJxXOMK+N3Q+10E+KD0tS+TY/rmAXQ+N LFZCdDZrbWLQb+6yU72+FjxQG5ni4NlYBZ4WnnSoJRaWD7wDRYhsg1gv3lKd7FQPfxNo=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4KHx-0002r6-87 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:05:29 +0700 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:05:29 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7jC60BARyymmzU9x" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQ16L2rWnz3DxH X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=CNfXW7Yx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:05:31 -0000 --7jC60BARyymmzU9x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >=20 > I am not sure why these modules are not distributed with default kernel b= ut > this stuff is Linux KPI port so that may have something to do with GPL > tainting..? Also the full path needs to be specified to the drm modules > otherwise the default (those distrubuted with kernel that does not work w= ith > new cards)=20 It is noteworthy that my PC hardware (and the built in video) is older than= FreeBSD 12. > are loaded and those does not work (quite obvious isnt it). Brave > New World of Bleeding Edge Linux Style :-) :-) But really, if a KMS module is not good enough for my videocard or its driver, should it not warn somewhere in the logs or refuse to start, instead of crashing with signal 6 at random moments? Maybe it's the result of the policy that FreeBSD has no "official" GUI/DE which would be more thoroughly tested as a whole. The current approach looks like "if it compiles it is probably OK." --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --7jC60BARyymmzU9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgD9tZAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0IUAH/09Fg7xbeNsbjhYApwdBtYP2 eSctytmvzTf9KRAUwEfUR3uBO0B8R/ixtYPRhtmpC8Oi8smppiuKOEbd337ex7v8 74CQ8GWTzNFfGiGmQ/w7Vln6rUvXwexy0nmP2EJ23X1FE4DabokAC7GbSTizDsK1 Hs5YXuVKlKBFIdqSSR3gbU81Tp7HDnVCfLAYa9cGPtP8Q3KSeQGvPHjas+D6KA4S 90iIpd7K/nq3ZsFi5LDFgWE71nfqDBDkiSK7cFfYeOfvcrt9M96fWidha59yFQCX i0BMm2xI5UqDUEBcz5i60c3qdFb5VVJ5Lj1vgErRQoqtapmbhyNp5Ffns5uozSg= =BocN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7jC60BARyymmzU9x-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 09:11:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E684E61F5 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQ1F1573Jz3Fb4 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=a+BYsGIix/yW62oBddyJJ2iWIRg8RJv6I6TRe2CAVko=; b=pL6VBi47F6yklK45W6N4MQoijx H/iiqZd87mp0cbMfZjoBDbRkiU2MNWavkSnykdwGinCYSNc9kwPyX3ZfTLtAf3KUsKLzArIwbLJOd mJGD1arcNX8Ksb4GsPcwsTA4unxLlKZoPyNatyqvrnIZRciY53nFOsdPszSbOaxAfOfA=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4KNY-0002uX-Cd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:11:16 +0700 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 16:11:16 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> <382bee4e-46ca-41b2-12b2-f07295b88b74@cedro.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kmh0xL4pjnNV9gDq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <382bee4e-46ca-41b2-12b2-f07295b88b74@cedro.info> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQ1F1573Jz3Fb4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=pL6VBi47; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:11:18 -0000 --Kmh0xL4pjnNV9gDq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >=20 > > In most cases, just starting X without a configuration file > > will do the right thing, given the required parts are present. > > Only older hardware might need manual intervention. >=20 > Not with the scfb on my desktop. I had to create and modify the xorg.conf= as > described :-) And if you install only the x11-drivers/xf86-video-scfb and skip the xorg.conf part, what driver does Xort pick up automatically? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --Kmh0xL4pjnNV9gDq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgD9y0AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY061gIAIz3MfoDf429AgZAMy/ZoWzX rEZ6u+MHGnYtVaXA+1SVtjfM2/AvVi/9ulvz60NUejTayGDRZBHsSoQgatDrYITN odTscKwJOYuQ6zvfSkGAZ1OKaOBW1N1kX0lvNU/GCmZGSuaVPOY3ITi0YLOLOxeJ IebxF5PVfByGBUmXWDhuY3I5+4lebJXii8ru6AIkAAeXnongZDkcWVM3JURtlzby 5HtIRDMTD9NMlau5mWEXsB1setq0KFp2wduPseNhfK9Y0HAXpGnQYyYTBqMn8hbR KsXcrMehZ6U8Ui85HuZS2Uiprj6oAeqTw+pUfaywc7AHznEanqt5ummbheQnEfc= =VAHX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kmh0xL4pjnNV9gDq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 09:22:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C424E6AD1 for ; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd00000ac2c9.52150ff8aa223baa7cbea7720df58a77@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:22:00 -0000 On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:50:16 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > I still fail to understand why /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko is there at all > as part of the GENERIC kernel if it does not work. As best as I can understand it the module (and the whole in-tree drm stack) does work for older hardware but is increasingly troublesome on newer hardware and has been slated for removal and replacement by the port following a deprecation policy which means it hasn't quite gone yet. In the old days when there was talk of Vikings taking axes to the tree it would probably have been removed some time ago and there would have been period of complaint about the sudden need to install a port. No policy is perfect. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 26 20:24:38 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C41A4FF681 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQJ9x2rcDz4QwS for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2DE2CC2E for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:24:29 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1611692669; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IiliWW6SUZ77O0OpuJoyTO0e7Xt+YQCYBx7KC3jB20A=; b=tjbovSmlOu0k7aoiHPney0CIIBA0qimyd233g24B5++iQRs+p3w16Gt5fOfIYbyQPqmoB/ le2CtHT0tLJiyI0gaxXpGKHctGjsDHZsFQJYwbNvM+4q2KWqYgPebC4rn753LP4601/aTY OWdqxXS3+WQwe372LliTIfOIHueRpI0= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: stable/12->stable/13 can't find boot filesystem Message-ID: <00572e9a-c127-29bb-bdf2-8759ae56ae53@pinyon.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:24:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.10 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQJ9x2rcDz4QwS X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b=tjbovSml; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:24:38 -0000 Hi there, I'm just started upgrading my stable/12 gang to stable/13 by building from git stable/13 branch. So when I boot bruno into 13/stable using the default kernel, it hangs on mounting the filesystems after the first pass probing phase. I booted 12/stable kernel using kernel.old and that works, mostly. The boot hangs after keyboard initialization and displays: Loader variable: vfs.root.mountfrom=zfs:zroot/ROOT/default ... mountroot> ? gpt/zfs0 gpt/gptboot0 gpt/ssd1 ada1p3 ada1p2 ada1p1 ada0p1 ada1 ada0 cd0 If I try zfs:/dev/ada1p1 per the printed example, it complains that it failed with error 2: unknown filesystem. Any advice would be great. Thanks, Russell loader.conf: kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0" kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="0" zfs_load="YES" ssd1 74.5G 14.7G 59.8G - - 77% 19% 1.00x ONLINE - zroot 632G 62.1G 570G - - 21% 9% 1.00x ONLINE - root@bruno:~ # geom disk list Geom name: cd0 Providers: 1. Name: cd0 Mediasize: 0 (0B) Sectorsize: 2048 Mode: r0w0e0 descr: ASUS BC-12B1ST a ident: (null) rotationrate: unknown fwsectors: 0 fwheads: 0 Geom name: ada0 Providers: 1. Name: ada0 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 0 Mode: r1w1e3 descr: INTEL SSDSA2M080G2GC lunid: 50015179591c362b ident: CVPO005402G4080BGN rotationrate: 0 fwsectors: 63 fwheads: 16 Geom name: ada1 Providers: 1. Name: ada1 Mediasize: 750156374016 (699G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r2w2e4 descr: WDC WD7500AACS-00C7B0 lunid: 50014ee2570816ce ident: WD-WCASM0067588 rotationrate: 5400 fwsectors: 63 fwheads: 16 root@bruno:~ # gpart show => 34 156301421 ada0 GPT (75G) 34 6 - free - (3.0K) 40 156301408 1 freebsd-zfs (75G) 156301448 7 - free - (3.5K) => 40 1465149088 ada1 GPT (699G) 40 1024 1 freebsd-boot (512K) 1064 984 - free - (492K) 2048 134217728 2 freebsd-swap (64G) 134219776 1330927616 3 freebsd-zfs (635G) 1465147392 1736 - free - (868K) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 00:16:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC114E6D02 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQPL06Lb3z4hDg for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10R0GlH5037881; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 17:16:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: packages to be removed; how to determine port conflicts? To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49042aa6-ec9d-6f25-d918-ff69642b91dc@dreamchaser.org> <3ed3296c-80d6-6d36-f7bc-835bfcb1738e@gmail.com> <955c9c42-e613-8bbf-449c-6415fab3369a@dreamchaser.org> <5b1f32c5-6abd-67a3-9d74-c91e4ee089aa@gmail.com> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <2bd1eae2-ec3c-1b50-d894-10f706d62793@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 17:12:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5b1f32c5-6abd-67a3-9d74-c91e4ee089aa@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 26 Jan 2021 17:16:48 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQPL06Lb3z4hDg X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.82 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.481]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:16:58 -0000 On 1/25/21 10:47 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 26/01/2021 04:43, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 1/25/21 12:55 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: >>> On 25/01/2021 19:18, Gary Aitken wrote: >>>> Attempting to install node.js port (node10, node12, node14), I get this: >>>> >>>> pkg install node10 >>>> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >>>> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >>>> All repositories are up to date. >>>> The following 29 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): >>>> >>>> Installed packages to be REMOVED: >>>>         FreeCAD: 0.18.4_10 >>>>         firefox: 80.0_3,1 >>>>         openshot: 2.5.1.236 >>>>         py37-qt5-webkit: 5.13.1_1 >>>>         py37-qt5-webkitwidgets: 5.13.1_1 >>>>         qt5-webkit: 5.212.0.a4_2 >>>>         thunderbird: 68.11.0_1 >>>> >>>> New packages to be INSTALLED: >>>>         Box2D: 2.3.1 >>>>         c-ares: 1.16.1 >>>>         double-conversion: 3.1.5.19 >>>>         node10: 10.23.1 >>>> >>>> Installed packages to be UPGRADED: >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Installed, Upgraded, and reinstalled seems ok, but removed is a problem. >>>> How to tell why they are being removed?  FreeCAD was reinstalled two days >>>> ago, so it seems like it should be reasonably up to date.  I get more-or-less >>>> the same basic list regardless of which nodexx pkg I try to install. >>>> >>>> Is this simply a matter of reinstalling after they are removed, or does this >>>> indicate an incompatibility which will prevent installing at all? >> >> If I look at the page for node14: >>   https://www.freshports.org/www/node14/# >> It shows: >> Runtime dependencies: >> >>         ca_root_nss>=0 : security/ca_root_nss >> >> Library dependencies: >> >>         libbrotlidec.so : archivers/brotli >>         libcares.so : dns/c-ares >>         libuv.so : devel/libuv >>         libnghttp2.so : www/libnghttp2 >>         libicui18n.so : devel/icu >> >> If I do: >>   pkg info -d firefox | grep -E "ca_root|brotlidec|cares|libuv|nghttp2|icui18n" >> it shows nothing.  Same for each of the other packages noted for deletion. >> So I don't understand why it will be deleted. > > If you precede the attempt to install with this, is there any difference? > > pkg update -f no > Then maybe this: > > pkg install --ignore-missing node10 no, same complaints > Side note (hint): , for example, if you like anchoring. There'll be an explanation at in due course. Thanks, that's where I got the values for the grep above. I guess I need to remove and reinstall everything at this point? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 02:13:25 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830BA4EA504 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQRwN3q0Lz4pfR for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=Ni+PlvR/hvqPNuGzPqrHDfDs/bbh+g40LfiAxSp7e8A=; b=kI3dqa2AckO8eyfLFrz+ewDpC2 vAqTuCoKD4QCIz+U7+GKK3oAzVd8VMaxYu+OBCCphaFebvtsmpIhyCkJAgCeWqIe33XR3MIptTFvT TFp1RtemeHQTnh6k5Lxcj/5DR7zZOJ6r8iwp5gSs+Mr2PG6eqScDyUGibpJr5psaSung=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4aKf-000CDS-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:13:21 +0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:13:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b8RSfvk6uDJ280s9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQRwN3q0Lz4pfR X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=kI3dqa2A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:13:25 -0000 --b8RSfvk6uDJ280s9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I forgot to mention that I've tried using /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from > > the package graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod instead of the bundled > > /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - but it is even worse: the X graphics screem > > freezes very soon after startx, maybe a minute or two. >=20 > Now that I stopped using the kernel module /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko and > recompiled graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod from ports to use its > /boot/modules/i915kms.ko, I have not seen a single coredump of Xorg yet. Nope, still crashes (albeit less frequently). I think it's time to migrate to Linux for a desktop (after >20 years on FreeBSD). As a bonus, I'll get at least: 1. A friendly X user switching instead of running two Xservers from two "startx" invocations. 2. Cyrillic filenames support in gvfs (or whatever that removable media automounter is called). --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --b8RSfvk6uDJ280s9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgEMxBAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY02cUH/Rq60wqz+vANS9L6vOsaSq5R iPOm6T+HHKqz4vlhZ5tda8X6ydD5GIJrUdrhoLK+Zg1IrTiOFaqcMBOjwZEnH5ZW vtK9k6qfC9AAlEIVBgM0GwWRLYzA55zD2jpPU/4IlgBe1FkJNrkWxGM3tA5+ojEL wzG8FheyjUpK6uuEnqY8uO99hLjFGNUTs0XlNrWlpbTKUxgTzzdbtJ+UvDnFE/7f WUmqup/7ktKv60sVXFkfHarrAKMhjaFEmc+Dj55WEp76g8DA0uk9pDfqRYTtDUpD 4/YCeYmT/OwEyeiAEUm2lQaipxQL0W+obs03Cc537aKq4L9Oa8iFSm/4lYcXc2E= =N0xn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b8RSfvk6uDJ280s9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 02:47:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF174EA97F for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQSgm0FgSz4r7H for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQSgZ5dB9zFmM6 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:47:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1611715642; bh=YcoqJtBQS+JJbKjwNk2sLIg+F+kRzxWy9nXqFLjW+PE=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=kYzsrM1AYEioBp2zD8EQ4upQmzKC5Zzs4Q//Ct9TIXnHQJGYR2DmzlB7H9q7F1jW1 jjbr1YY7VLUjYb9jCVN5xxHQJ1oesRVC18g4Rbi5+G9oE3q3aQQe7Lu3IMD00Hsm31 WSvDxI1UoFG7/FfnblD0WdC6ra9jO3lmHTpNemWw= X-Riseup-User-ID: C6766D3E6988010E23C2D20C8D28089DAB809CE25829628B7FEA813E089A2C5D Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DQSgZ1bdyz1xtg for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:47:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 03:47:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQSgm0FgSz4r7H X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=kYzsrM1A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:47:33 -0000 The grass is always greener on the other side. On Wed, 2021-01-27 at 09:13 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I think it's time to migrate to Linux for a desktop (after >20 years > on FreeBSD). Linux is a good choice to meet several needs, but Linux isn't a good choice to get rid of Intel GPU issues, see https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2021-January/292754.html . > 2. Cyrillic filenames support in gvfs (or whatever that removable media > automounter is called). [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Si gvfs | grep Description Description : Virtual filesystem implementation for GIO GIO is for Gnome Input/Output Personally, I believe it's better to stay away from gvfs and GNOME, but to fulfill dependencies against gvfs by installing empty dummy packages. I'm using Linux every single day, mainly Arch Linux, second most Ubuntu. 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I cannot buildworld for 12.2-RELEASE. Using /usr/src as svn or git no matter (its set to releng/12.2). Did clean /usr/obj. Any hints welcome :-) # uname -a FreeBSD hexagon 12.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 # /usr/bin/time -h make buildkernel buildworld NO_CLEAN=1 (..) ===> bin/tests (all) ===> cddl (all) ===> cddl/lib (all) ===> cddl/lib/drti (all) ===> cddl/lib/libavl (all) ===> cddl/lib/libctf (all) ===> cddl/lib/libdtrace (all) ===> cddl/lib/libnvpair (all) ===> cddl/lib/libumem (all) ===> cddl/lib/libuutil (all) ===> cddl/lib/libzfs_core (all) ===> cddl/lib/libzfs (all) ===> cddl/lib/libzpool (all) ===> cddl/lib/tests (all) ===> cddl/sbin (all) ===> cddl/sbin/zfs (all) cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2 --sysroot=/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -O2 -pipe -fno-common -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libzpool/common -I/usr/src/cddl/compat/opensolaris/include -I/usr/src/cddl/compat/opensolaris/lib/libumem -I/usr/src/sys/cddl/compat/opensolaris -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/head -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libuutil/common -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libzfs/common -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libzfs_core/common -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libumem/common -I/usr/src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libnvpair -I/usr/src/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common -I/usr/src/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs -I/usr/src/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/common/zfs -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN -g -O0 -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector-strong -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-unused-const-variable -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-unused-local-typedef -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Qunused-arguments -o zfs.full zfs_main.o zfs_iter.o -ljail -lnvpair -luutil -lzfs_core -lzfs ld: error: /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/lib/libuutil.so: undefined reference to __assfail cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) *** Error code 1 Stop. make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/cddl/sbin/zfs *** Error code 1 (..) 39m18.71s real 33m45.09s user 4m10.23s sys -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, https://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 07:20:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7584EF883 for ; 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RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.41)[0.409]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:20:01 -0000 --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The grass is always greener on the other side. >=20 > On Wed, 2021-01-27 at 09:13 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I think it's time to migrate to Linux for a desktop (after >20 years > > on FreeBSD). >=20 > Linux is a good choice to meet several needs, but Linux isn't a good > choice to get rid of Intel GPU issues, see > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2021-January/292754= =2Ehtml . Yes, I've read it in the thread. >=20 > > 2. Cyrillic filenames support in gvfs (or whatever that removable media > > automounter is called). >=20 > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Si gvfs | grep Description > Description : Virtual filesystem implementation for GIO >=20 > GIO is for Gnome Input/Output >=20 > Personally, I believe it's better to stay away from gvfs and GNOME, but > to fulfill dependencies against gvfs by installing empty dummy packages. Well, it's build in into the Xfce port and have not found a way to disable it (the userspace volume mounting) on FreeBSD/Xfce. >=20 > I'm using Linux every single day, mainly Arch Linux, second most Ubuntu. >=20 > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Qi gvfs | head -3 > Name : gvfs > Version : 2013.08.18-1 > Description : Dummy package > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# systemd-nspawn -D /mnt/moonstudio 2>/dev/= null dpkg -l gvfs | grep ii > ii gvfs 2016:07-13-m all Dummy package >=20 > ;) I wish I had an easy way to disable this gvfs automounting stuff in FreeBSD= 's Xfce or Mate, then I'd probably switch to sysutils/automount or something like that. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgERQeAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0hr0IAIyTleHNfykzGLZNRiKwrygB GcU+EEilOubvZdrmIyBhG+h6dSUKjb9k1rJkM2XZpBiwHyl2n/CRJjOJVPTKjyP1 dkYf1alYC1VEy9MzRJc1EPXDHR+lC0IS3uyBg5l2b6+y/00S92IwERGdZFigdnOW OsRP+Im3XvZO4GFBfXbLzI54amfwcdo4MCThYAwMUp5vrNXissdEXaVb8TlOaAsa Bq1VVT6YlJxcKLqYCrj+06/nXO7hVT6AvlvGfe3BcILCekg1xqMuTjVAkO13qkXZ O1cFcGkZiGZFiHJ1yUrFSCDfzF0L0yGwPb2T2UxeNN2Uf18IWg0RAkuVSN3ZIig= =JF6L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 08:00:59 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C814F0AEA for ; 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Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:00:38 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: <20210127090038.4b6252aa@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQbdQ24ctz3MqG X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iHHQNw0x; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:00:59 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:19:58 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >I wish I had an easy way to disable this gvfs automounting stuff in >FreeBSD's Xfce or Mate, then I'd probably switch to sysutils/automount >or something like that. mv /path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n /getoutoftheway/path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n Since by Xfce4 upstream gvfs is anyway just an optional dependency of Thunar, you should get rid of Thunar's trash support, mounting with udisk and remote filesystems. Mate upstream makes gvfs a hard dependency for Caja, but actually you can treat it as an optional dependency, too. It results in the same as for Thunar. You don't render Xfce4, Thunar, Mate or Caja useless, you just get rid of gvfs "features". The same as for Mate and Caja applies to Cinnamon and Nemo, Gnome and Nautilus and any other Xfce4, Mate, Cinnamon or Gnome app that "depends" on gvfs. If you mv or rm gvfs related files or as I do, if you don't install them in the first place, it breaks absolutely nothing, even if apps where build against gvfs. I've got one or the other app installed by a Linux package, that was build against, IOW with gvfs and just replace the gvfs package by a package, that does include nothing. This package only fakes that gvfs is installed to fool the package management. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 12:06:21 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ADD4F752C for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQj4X1ggdz3tDF for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=mYwIEvKSiLT4Xz5FI+2Yglu7TVRn075KIrSeCDicgsQ=; b=ea9hpa4HpsVWAw86jvmCfINfgE bwe6uYrPKxyavVOwKtCxU63zkLnsnFHpY/Jiy6q480zPdkD8QQH3KwK/KA5GGPdmSslEOu7yuJyqk ELp19HisU/zOjvUGABCiegzxOZwZwGdk6m4OOJBiD5V43fvsJcYXBsheX7L6lQZN/Hu4=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4jaO-000Gsj-0J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:06:12 +0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:06:11 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> <20210127090038.4b6252aa@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bV/jRMmDp12cwqU6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210127090038.4b6252aa@archlinux> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQj4X1ggdz3tDF X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=ea9hpa4H; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:06:21 -0000 --bV/jRMmDp12cwqU6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:19:58 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >I wish I had an easy way to disable this gvfs automounting stuff in > >FreeBSD's Xfce or Mate, then I'd probably switch to sysutils/automount > >or something like that. >=20 > mv /path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n /getoutoftheway/path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n This is harsh. I wish I knew what are gvfs files anyway. What if I just "pkg delete -f devel/gvfs"? >=20 > Since by Xfce4 upstream gvfs is anyway just an optional dependency of > Thunar, you should get rid of Thunar's trash support, mounting with > udisk and remote filesystems.=20 Is there no way to disable it at runtime? > with gvfs and just replace the gvfs package by a package, that does > include nothing. This package only fakes that gvfs is installed to fool > the package management. I wish to have this package for FreeBSD. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --bV/jRMmDp12cwqU6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgEVczAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0jZcH/1WX6TOBE/L0mFza+3M1LwZM HxkA9sZ/etrnjlBD+PNtP2AhPL74tl8apurjHhraoUDq189CWRd/dVfjUBAnaBua fGJ/B32JU93ZpoTIPy3BwUN/cGVY44wE1UorOXuIO2ElsYXcllwMKjCTaY8Jxrxp ymb0jDvsuYnje6fDkYkcAkHrsGO25FXy1qWkz9nwF5NBTlXpnGx2MJjgjUhj97jK M6axWTzK0yX+3Pf90NDa2WLdeHKDc0FGo6v9xIWoJV+p1MJHn/SWlloawZKOiiky BKM90roDjM4QoWNI+gUHvL5Sny2VRc1iAFmfO8WiVd064txDRytRyMDNRl7FvUk= =BAu8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bV/jRMmDp12cwqU6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 20:54:41 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494EC4E9DA2 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQwp75pzXz3N5J for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10RKsau7041060 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:54:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: generate top-level pkg install list? Message-ID: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:49:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:54:36 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQwp75pzXz3N5J X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:54:41 -0000 I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of packages to install. In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as I've added a few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to generate such a list from the pkg output. In the past I've used portmaster to get at top-level packages but I'm trying to avoid portmaster and stick with pkg. Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed deliberately and in sequence? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 21:03:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28A4EA2F7 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQx054r4Dz3Ntw for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1611781398; x=1614373398; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=vXLNynLJBol0fd+nxoP3C3/7kFwcI8mCKYl7tvj6ybk=; b=f5hPZUZyQmoEnkBUumzJXqwfGc5icSeCGXq5a+NbLO33GsWzNHfHVVLZXOAWxIoYKtOL6mQ0tvFi0BTjeR4rSKv/3Qk/7Dg0Fv7BKx4TliUNAMC7H9xNAnEOybtharGYtUkbGH1wWckMX8AVaadByvHR6V1c+kT4GQxfsrgyZJc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRjZDAwMDA2ODMyNTMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:03:05 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:03:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4rxv-0007P2-85; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:03:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:03:03 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? Message-Id: <20210127210303.7c906ac962560d33c3e77a4c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQx054r4Dz3Ntw X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=f5hPZUZy; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd0000683253.c7b97d7a2723ea045c70cbfe12ab417e@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:03:18 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:49:55 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of > packages to install. In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as > I've added a few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to > generate such a list from the pkg output. If you have the aliases in /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf then: pkg leaf otherwise either fix that or: pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n-%v' -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 22:41:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774E24EBEFE for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQz9S44Dlz3jKh for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10RMfSGp041335; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:41:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> <20210127210303.7c906ac962560d33c3e77a4c@sohara.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <9d2c734c-5dfd-18f4-8ae6-3983472e9d40@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:36:47 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210127210303.7c906ac962560d33c3e77a4c@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:41:29 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQz9S44Dlz3jKh X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.97 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.33)[0.332]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:41:33 -0000 On 1/27/21 2:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:49:55 -0700 > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of >> packages to install. In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as >> I've added a few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to >> generate such a list from the pkg output. > > If you have the aliases in /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf then: > > pkg leaf > > otherwise either fix that or: > > pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n-%v' Thanks! I was trying to use pkg info and it was looking to be a lot of work. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 22:43:54 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513204EC357 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DQzD92K9nz3jlx for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61F6A8E003; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 10RMhq1Z061052 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:52 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 10RMhpMr061049; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:52 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:51 +0000 (UTC) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Gary Aitken cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? In-Reply-To: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQzD92K9nz3jlx X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@fledge.watson.org has no SPF policy when checking 204.107.128.30) smtp.mailfrom=doug@fledge.watson.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.73 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[204.107.128.30:from]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.73)[0.732]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[204.107.128.30:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:43:54 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, Gary Aitken wrote: > I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of packages > to install. In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as I've added a > few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to generate such a list > from the pkg output. > > In the past I've used portmaster to get at top-level packages but I'm trying > to avoid portmaster and stick with pkg. > > Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed deliberately and > in sequence? > > Thanks, > > Gary pkg prime-origins. It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 04:57:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6084F70C7 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 04:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DR7WD6H7Kz4ZfL for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 04:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10S4vKn4042222; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:57:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? To: doug@safeport.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:52:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:57:20 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DR7WD6H7Kz4ZfL X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 04:57:29 -0000 On 1/27/21 3:43 PM, doug wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of packages >> to install.  In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as I've added a >> few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to generate such a list >> from the pkg output. ... >> Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed deliberately and >> in sequence? > pkg prime-origins. It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: > >   pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" Thanks. I had the pkg info part, it was the pkg query part I needed. I see prime-origins is an alias; it doesn't show up in pkg help unless you already know about it. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 05:18:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6D04F7CEF for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DR7zY3vslz4byb for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10S5IVNY042278 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:18:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: sndio install: pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update Message-ID: <50f55dfd-5467-c8bf-4170-a7659bac73fc@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:13:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:18:32 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DR7zY3vslz4byb X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:18:34 -0000 # pkg install sndio ... New packages to be INSTALLED: sndio: 1.7.0 ... Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y [1/1] Installing sndio-1.7.0... ===> Creating groups. Using existing group '_sndio'. ===> Creating users Creating user '_sndio' with uid '702'. pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update pkg: PRE-INSTALL script failed Anyone know what this is about? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 05:29:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6736F4F8302 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DR8D2422Dz4cbD for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10S5TKVN042308 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:29:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: sndio install: pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update From: Gary Aitken To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <50f55dfd-5467-c8bf-4170-a7659bac73fc@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:24:40 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50f55dfd-5467-c8bf-4170-a7659bac73fc@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:29:20 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DR8D2422Dz4cbD X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:29:23 -0000 On 1/27/21 10:13 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > # pkg install sndio > ... > New packages to be INSTALLED: >         sndio: 1.7.0 > ... > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y > [1/1] Installing sndio-1.7.0... > ===> Creating groups. > Using existing group '_sndio'. > ===> Creating users > Creating user '_sndio' with uid '702'. > pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update > pkg: PRE-INSTALL script failed > > Anyone know what this is about? Forgot: 11.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 1 08:22:33 UTC 2020 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 portsnap fetch and update done today From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 05:37:35 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967454F842B for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DR8PV3stXz4cms for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10S5bWTc042337 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:37:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: sndio install: pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update From: Gary Aitken To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <50f55dfd-5467-c8bf-4170-a7659bac73fc@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: <789961b4-4273-1455-ba61-a2b2057f931f@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:32:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:37:32 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DR8PV3stXz4cms X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 05:37:35 -0000 > On 1/27/21 10:13 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: >> # pkg install sndio >> ... >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> sndio: 1.7.0 >> ... >> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y >> [1/1] Installing sndio-1.7.0... >> ===> Creating groups. >> Using existing group '_sndio'. >> ===> Creating users >> Creating user '_sndio' with uid '702'. >> pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update >> pkg: PRE-INSTALL script failed >> >> Anyone know what this is about? > > Forgot: > > 11.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 1 08:22:33 UTC 2020 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > portsnap fetch and update done today It was caused by /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd being out of sync from a ^c of an install script. vipw and delete last entry (_sndio) fixed it. Sorry for the chatter, up too long. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 07:39:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699114FAC7E for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRC5b4tsdz4jxS for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1611819540; x=1614411540; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=z6arAgxTm4yCU4TxGXxBqSa+wL+lvtEMGPh6boZHqPE=; b=Zs/89WzIFr3ocA3QhOxuGntltB94vWpI8QOG60pqbtY+ZjFBRLikvI/lAOr2KhigESkgqqN3uwGqxnv6VoQabxf1hXXpzhO7nk9ee5xPt3RT32vmFw+ci1x25MszSuW/oMl9KwDwNTvtLhUIJsc9tf1PlsACSYQztSsQd719tYM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRjZDAwMDA3N2Q0YTYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 02:38:40 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 02:38:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l51t0-000COf-Qw; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:38:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:38:38 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sndio install: pw: user '_sndio' disappeared during update Message-Id: <20210128073838.d1f85b4b4d9f7f5e6bc5e077@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <789961b4-4273-1455-ba61-a2b2057f931f@dreamchaser.org> References: <50f55dfd-5467-c8bf-4170-a7659bac73fc@dreamchaser.org> <789961b4-4273-1455-ba61-a2b2057f931f@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRC5b4tsdz4jxS X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=Zs/89WzI; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd000077d4a6.3964e9cf7d37ac424845afa7528178f8@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:39:00 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:32:51 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > It was caused by /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd being out of sync from > a ^c of an install script. > vipw and delete last entry (_sndio) fixed it. > > Sorry for the chatter, up too long. Don't be, I've had similar problems in the past that vanished inexplicably - now I understand why. Thank you. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 07:47:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A297B4FB6BF for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x230.google.com (mail-oi1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRCH14DPtz4knc for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x230.google.com with SMTP id h6so5119409oie.5 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:47:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wiSZBU9lsbvPuoy7i7IMw9AXcMZKwNincd0Jm2BhXUE=; b=fBDLCxXSYdQd9sGbUCJf3/DjaXTZ5cAoLQl8HOIhWNsLFiwOYJcxUvtRVrbTHj5Xey I2pwubPJ2aOpeyAzC3swjXQDo+OD+T/CuPQbMmthH4bSrZGPbnABGYJ7+Z0SAQ4ET3JQ tpbO8giMUsoUXR8UuaZCK8+JNqcw4hQ878G+1kE0wqAX1k1InvpZVH09l2GuPLnQd21p B5damRQsgG15iAdq6wKk5Ht/vboTL3OQIHsy2S6OzhwmSRkVREo81Aw4bxVflzPJLIhW 2QZpBTwvRtXf426X/1Z0XsmmrFi0EO8o8hFdTR+vUpKBHqbxMQ23Rx+QisvMDbSG3F6f 9lfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wiSZBU9lsbvPuoy7i7IMw9AXcMZKwNincd0Jm2BhXUE=; b=U/ghCrSXJo2H6fbi/KC9dvPYxnJKeB7zmRwzgoWwvPHfX3+RPQ/aMPtCh9zXwAcapw rF1xz5JkX/ZJuPPC32TeMPh7eqnB3l8D3Skrd6XCc4p02oydFvX/bYgwnf3RM9Aq6fYP wsNggSHcc8DJQrr2Lc4ZRfik2E8ExxRy/2w8R44fLEyxM/OzXgMO3BbaACIuLSeqjgd4 n9lKh2l01ITBs/8QCRuakolBDwxaj0SfdNVPG3Yb3X3YM9RJYeKSybXSs27/+lLUrBx1 dT3RE1vDp2g9GjITvneP4RjvJ4d8QWdk067sgr4CVcS0oSpv/YqzveePyoih9K7lu1gT /rMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5327TQ2y/0ehSWgpgHS6LrxLwP05Yz7JZAIN2FrKno704i6f1VO4 Zu41C3jAyLqGTp8isbaR+pR2S3lIGPlapzhXqGJQnIpOt47A3A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzljw+RX80uy0mEPMDLzC9Y5Sgd7N/RHb+nZ0chzMmi+qoCx2oa1ALa1TMwOqvVtNfhNeFIOZ9ULfHhr5qcigk= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5384:: with SMTP id h126mr3962455oib.27.1611820028093; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:47:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:46:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: doug@safeport.com, FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRCH14DPtz4knc X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fBDLCxXS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.70 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::230:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::230:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::230:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:47:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:57 PM Gary Aitken wrote: > On 1/27/21 3:43 PM, doug wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, Gary Aitken wrote: > > > >> I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate a top level list of > packages > >> to install. In the past, I've worked off a manual list, but as I've > added a > >> few things over time I'm wondering if it's possible to generate such a > list > >> from the pkg output. > ... > >> Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed deliberately > and > >> in sequence? > > > pkg prime-origins. It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: > > > > pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" > > Thanks. I had the pkg info part, it was the pkg query part I needed. > I see prime-origins is an alias; it doesn't show up in pkg help unless > you already know about it. > > Gary Seems like a note in pkg-message for the pkg port about the alias file would be a good idea. I just stumbled onto it last week, myself. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 16:38:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A20B4E1674 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRR4X1WwHz3pXQ for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10SGcmRo045371; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:38:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? To: Kevin Oberman Cc: doug@safeport.com, FreeBSD Mailing List References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <4bbf2f4f-a187-78af-f875-6e03b39f54f6@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:34:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:38:49 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRR4X1WwHz3pXQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.27 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.968]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:38:53 -0000 >>> Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed >>> deliberately and in sequence? > >> pkg prime-origins. It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: >> >> pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" > > Thanks. I had the pkg info part, it was the pkg query part I > needed. I see prime-origins is an alias; it doesn't show up in pkg > help unless you already know about it. > > Seems like a note in pkg-message for the pkg port about the alias > file would be a good idea. I just stumbled onto it last week, > myself. wouldn't "pkg help" would be a better place, and a modification of the man page to indicate the aliases don't show up in the individual "pkg help " results? Something like: man pkg: alias List ... Note that aliases for individual commands are not listed when "pkg help " is done. pkg help: Note on aliases: Aliases for specific commands are not listed when "pkg help " is done. To list aliases specific to a command, try "pkg alias | grep ", e.g. "pkg alias | grep query" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 16:42:35 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29994E1DA5 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd00008d955a.22f10654b5a6b61b77b5b6bc3f508593@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRR8q06hbz3qFd for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd00008d955a.22f10654b5a6b61b77b5b6bc3f508593@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1611852155; x=1614444155; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xkAHn7d8zvK3V+qc6+P1qrCjWui+Wqvk5JLWg59OQVo=; b=tk1rsrYT2xf2QE8jbHbIbxyODGQ8quRGhJgqtc8r60VzzGYlxE1n7f/hV4uaN7h+wSZOssoUzuu3Q0hr3wMkJhQoaB9xop5Lm1CQEEHL7XmI5SbLibbMA53Zpgdhsc8dDvgq0JpIs5yanJ3+Y8FWZ8zEgGIhlWV2FnHCy8px1iU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRjZDAwMDA4ZDk1NWEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:42:31 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:42:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l5ANJ-000FoI-8f; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:29 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? 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There is pkg alias -l to list the aliases. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 16:46:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0756A4E1EE3 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRRF01Jbtz3qR1 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 10SGk7OT089748 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:46:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:46:07 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Denault To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:46:07 -0500 (EST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRRF01Jbtz3qR1 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com designates 198.74.231.101 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.51 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_SPACES(0.50)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.74.231.101:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.74.231.101]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.74.231.101:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.909]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:198.74.228.0/22, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:46:14 -0000 On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, Gary Aitken wrote: >>>> Any ideas for how to generate a list of packages installed >>>> deliberately and in sequence? >> >>> pkg prime-origins. It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: >>> >>> pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" >> >> Thanks. I had the pkg info part, it was the pkg query part I >> needed. I see prime-origins is an alias; it doesn't show up in pkg >> help unless you already know about it. >> >> Seems like a note in pkg-message for the pkg port about the alias >> file would be a good idea. I just stumbled onto it last week, >> myself. > > wouldn't "pkg help" would be a better place, and a modification of the man > page to indicate the aliases don't show up in the individual "pkg help " > results? > > Something like: > > man pkg: > alias List ... > Note that aliases for individual commands are not listed when > "pkg help " is done. > > pkg help: > Note on aliases: > Aliases for specific commands are not listed when "pkg help " > is done. To list aliases specific to a command, try "pkg alias | grep > ", e.g. "pkg alias | grep query" Maybe if enough people ask. I danced this dance in an earlier thread and submitted a PR (rejected). The answer is somewhat akin to "real men use ed". :) _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 17:06:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719694E32A3 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRRhT5ZNxz3t1Z for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10SH6WeF045470; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:06:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23d9f371-b023-6647-4a63-b9e4a9e6ca61@dreamchaser.org> <14a2618-5268-fa37-8a21-76dcd0a9bab4@fledge.watson.org> <4bbf2f4f-a187-78af-f875-6e03b39f54f6@dreamchaser.org> <20210128164229.4562e939194ddf06938f0fc3@sohara.org> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:01:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210128164229.4562e939194ddf06938f0fc3@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:06:32 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRRhT5ZNxz3t1Z X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:06:34 -0000 >> wouldn't "pkg help" would be a better place, and a modification of the man >> page to indicate the aliases don't show up in the individual "pkg help >> " results? > > There is pkg alias -l to list the aliases. The problem with this is that aliases are generally thought of as something the user adds to make something more convenient for themselves. Or at least that's how I've come to view them. I don't expect anything to come with built in aliases that are effectively part of the packaged commands. Once you know it's what you want, sure, it's easy. But in this case you have to know what you don't know. That doesn't compute. The obvious need for this sort of information is the examples in the tar man page. I suspect many besides me have had to reference the example tar -cf - -C . | tar -xpf - -C to move file hierarchies. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 16:44:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5A84E1DED for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.net) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRRBv18K6z3qRG for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.net) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 10SGiKLh089684; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:44:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.net) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Denault To: Gary Aitken cc: Kevin Oberman , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: generate top-level pkg install list? 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It's in alphabetic order. Date can come from: >>> >>> pkg info | egrep "Name|Installed" >> >> Thanks. I had the pkg info part, it was the pkg query part I >> needed. I see prime-origins is an alias; it doesn't show up in pkg >> help unless you already know about it. >> >> Seems like a note in pkg-message for the pkg port about the alias >> file would be a good idea. I just stumbled onto it last week, >> myself. > > wouldn't "pkg help" would be a better place, and a modification of the man > page to indicate the aliases don't show up in the individual "pkg help " > results? > > Something like: > > man pkg: > alias List ... > Note that aliases for individual commands are not listed when > "pkg help " is done. > > pkg help: > Note on aliases: > Aliases for specific commands are not listed when "pkg help " > is done. To list aliases specific to a command, try "pkg alias | grep > ", e.g. "pkg alias | grep query" Maybe if enough people ask. I danced this dance in an earlier thread and submitted a PR (rejected). The answer is somewhat akin to "real men use ed". :) _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 19:17:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D44E803F for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRVb01fkxz4YCP for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1013F160062 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:16:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4DRVZv6rqfz6tmf; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:16:55 +0100 (CET) From: Walter von Entferndt To: rcarter@pinyon.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable/12->stable/13 can't find boot filesystem Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:16:40 +0100 Message-ID: <2076518.RhTPgMbj8J@t450s.local.lan> X-Face: #$[hC+4[4W*mS3hB&izisyT_#E]^Aq+7Isv`2Tu5q*1~jR@&['74B>Ibyrk]GTJ!j$ NjX=#L2#k2X7OnaaRM_Pd5`>`8OJ3; +I2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:17:00 -0000 Please look at the ouput of "zpool get bootfs". It is recommended to make use of ZFS boot environments (bectl or beadm) to safely perform such updates. Please also note that you have to update the bootblocks, iff you upgrade the zpool (enable new features/historical "version"). -- =|o) "Stell' Dir vor es geht und keiner kriegt's hin." (Wolfgang Neuss) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 19:38:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A7C4E8C8C for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DRW3V1dvgz4ZJm for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C27BD1CC09; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:38:06 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1611862686; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=VVsoWR5A9ON0nj+Lx4ehWUOOFSxgpHtH4/wYOuyXqLY=; b=kHRCcrF9WHn93lNFDbjE2UeCL4wA1xPNIUx+PlYNUzYM3rsKrbsi75f6LnMfAgMBgC6jPA 1xpI0eEK3XmUZteEimHc0wGbNHjft1Qtmjk8k/94IxErcRvgyu5yWv1q5kOBbKRU38oWpr fdpLTXEZLB6b+2FTaQambB0JZ0bNNrk= Subject: Re: stable/12->stable/13 can't find boot filesystem To: Walter von Entferndt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2076518.RhTPgMbj8J@t450s.local.lan> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: <9bcd7f18-a5fc-0b70-ed62-799398f090a7@pinyon.org> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:38:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2076518.RhTPgMbj8J@t450s.local.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.22 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DRW3V1dvgz4ZJm X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b=kHRCcrF9; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:38:15 -0000 On 1/28/21 12:16 PM, Walter von Entferndt wrote: > Please look at the ouput of "zpool get bootfs". It is recommended to > make use of ZFS boot environments (bectl or beadm) to safely perform > such updates. Please also note that you have to update the bootblocks, > iff you upgrade the zpool (enable new features/historical "version"). > root@bruno:/usr/src # zpool get bootfs NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE ssd1 bootfs - default zroot bootfs zroot/ROOT/default local AFAICT, everything is configured correctly. I followed gptzfsboot(8) as carefully as I could. I was wondering about the bootblocks. However, I have not upgraded/enabled new features in my zpools, across all my systems, in quite some time, more than a year at least. Anyway I am in a multi-hour quest currently to bring the box down to stable/12. I am about at the point of reinstalling from scratch. Not a total loss, I know a lot more about the boot and kernel/userland versioning than I did before... Thanks for the reply! Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 22:32:09 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E802E4EF2DB for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kldunn@hiwaay.net) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (mail.hiwaay.net [216.180.158.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DRZw85hkrz4nK3 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kldunn@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 38509 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2021 22:32:08 -0000 Received: from 50-83-57-148.client.mchsi.com (HELO naur.kad-hg.org) (kldunn@hiwaay.net@50.83.57.148) by mail.hiwaay.net with (SSL TLSv1.2 AES128-GCM-SHA256 encrypted) SMTPS (a7a73254-61b8-11eb-a25d-6b937c494b4b); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:32:08 -0500 Subject: Fwd: 12.2-RELEASE installer doesn't detect any disks on Dell UEFI PC References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Karl L. 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I made a USB memstick from this: FreeBSD-12.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img.xz and that will boot up just fine.  However: it can't see any disks on the Dell system, except for itself (ada0), so I cannot install.  I have disabled Secure Boot on the Dell's UEFI boot setup (without that the USB memstick would not boot properly). I had shrunk the Windows C: on the SSD, and the empty D: drive, so Windows now looks like this (Win10 makes this very wide, so each output is in two parts):   PS C:\Windows\system32> Get-Disk   Number Friendly Name Serial Number HealthStatus   ------ ------------- ------------- ------------   1      PM991 NVMe... 3530_4130_4EB3_6021_0025_3846... Healthy   0      WDC WD10EZ...      WD-WCC6Y5CTADLR             Healthy     OperationalStatus      Total Size Partition                                       Style     -----------------      ---------- ----------     Online                  238.47 GB GPT     Online                  931.51 GB GPT   PS C:\Windows\system32> Get-Volume   DriveLetter FriendlyName   FileSystemType DriveType HealthStatus   ----------- ------------   -------------- --------- ------------               FreeBSD Data   NTFS           Fixed     Healthy               Image          NTFS           Fixed     Healthy               DELLSUPPORT    NTFS           Fixed     Healthy   E                          Unknown        CD-ROM    Healthy               WINRETOOLS     NTFS           Fixed     Healthy               FreeBSD System NTFS           Fixed     Healthy   C           OS             NTFS           Fixed     Healthy   D           DATA           NTFS           Fixed     Healthy               ESP            FAT32          Fixed     Healthy     OperationalStatus SizeRemaining      Size     ----------------- -------------      ----     OK                    469.89 GB    470 GB     OK                    153.16 MB  18.04 GB     OK                    491.95 MB   1.57 GB     Unknown                     0 B       0 B     OK                    310.78 MB    990 MB     OK                     99.91 GB    100 GB     OK                     48.57 GB 117.61 GB     OK                    461.28 GB 461.39 GB     OK                     81.34 MB    146 MB Windows Disk Manager shows this in a less confusing image:   http://home.hiwaay.net/~kldunn/dell_xps_8940_diskmgmt.jpg My intent is to install FreeBSD to the 100GB NTFS partition labelled FreeBSD System, allowing for reformatting it to UFS, of course. The installer does not "see" any of the above.  From either the shell or the live system, all /dev has for disk is:   crw-r-----   1 root  operator  0x5f Jan 25 11:10 da0   crw-r-----   1 root  operator  0x60 Jan 25 11:10 da0s1   crw-r-----   1 root  operator  0x61 Jan 25 11:10 da0s2   crw-r-----   1 root  operator  0x64 Jan 25 11:10 da0s2a Those entries are the memstick. So, I am stuck.  What do I do to make the SSD and HD partitions show up? FWIW, here is the dmesg output from the installer shell:   ---<>---   Copyright (c) 1992-2020 The FreeBSD Project.   Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.   FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.   FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE r366954 GENERIC amd64   FreeBSD clang version 10.0.1 (git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-10.0.1-0-gef32c611aa2)   VT(efifb): resolution 800x600   CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz (2904.18-MHz K8-class CPU)     Origin="GenuineIntel"  Id=0xa0655  Family=0x6  Model=0xa5 Stepping=5 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x7ffafbff     AMD Features=0x2c100800     AMD Features2=0x121     Structured Extended Features=0x29c67af     Structured Extended Features2=0x40000008     Structured Extended Features3=0xbc000400     XSAVE Features=0xf     IA32_ARCH_CAPS=0x2b     VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID,VID,PostIntr     TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics   real memory  = 17179869184 (16384 MB)   avail memory = 16342581248 (15585 MB)   Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600   ACPI APIC Table:   FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs   FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s) x 2 hardware threads   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   ioapic0 irqs 0-119 on motherboard   Launching APs: 1 2 5 4 11 3 10 15 7 14 6 13 9 8 12   Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1452089084 Hz quality 1000   random: entropy device external interface   kbd1 at kbdmux0   000.000023 [4336] netmap_init               netmap: loaded module   [ath_hal] loaded   module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff81115e40, 0) error 19   random: registering fast source Intel Secure Key RNG   random: fast provider: "Intel Secure Key RNG"   nexus0   efirtc0: on motherboard   efirtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock, resolution 1.000000s   cryptosoft0: on motherboard   acpi0:   atkbdc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 12.   est0: on cpu0   Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd, ignored (-273.1C)   hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0   hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0   pcm0: at nid 4 on hdaa0   pcm1: at nid 5 on hdaa0   pcm2: at nid 6 on hdaa0   hdacc1: at cad 0 on hdac1   hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1   pcm3: at nid 20,22,21,27 on hdaa1   hdacc2: at cad 2 on hdac1   hdaa2: at nid 1 on hdacc2   pcm4: at nid 3 on hdaa2   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufs/FreeBSD_Install [ro,noatime]...   Root mount waiting for: usbus0 usbus1 CAM   ugen1.1: <0x8086 XHCI root HUB> at usbus1   ugen0.1: <0x10de XHCI root HUB> at usbus0   uhub0: <0x8086 XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus1   uhub1: <0x10de XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0   uhub1: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered   uhub0: 24 ports with 24 removable, self powered   Root mount waiting for: usbus1   Root mount waiting for: usbus1   ugen1.2: at usbus1   umass0 on uhub0   umass0: on usbus1   umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100   umass0:0:0: Attached to scbus0   da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0   da0: Removable Direct Access SPC-2 SCSI device   da0: Serial Number 070A8B8097727547   da0: 40.000MB/s transfers   da0: 14808MB (30326784 512 byte sectors)   da0: quirks=0x2   Root mount waiting for: usbus1   ugen1.3: at usbus1   ukbd0 on uhub0   ukbd0: on usbus1   kbd2 at ukbd0   Root mount waiting for: usbus1   ugen1.4: at usbus1   ugen1.5: at usbus1   Root mount waiting for: usbus1   ugen1.6: at usbus1   mountroot: waiting for device /dev/ufs/FreeBSD_Install...   random: unblocking device.   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   arc4random: no preloaded entropy cache   lo0: link state changed to UP   uhid0 on uhub0   uhid0: on usbus1   ums0 on uhub0   ums0: on usbus1   ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- Karl L. 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Since the introducction of the wonderfull, coll lua to the loader I get the error: ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory With 12.0 I managed once to boot using the pxeboot of 11.2, but that does not work anymore. Do someone boot diskless? I thank for any hint Rod. 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See also: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234031 Would not be better to delay the introduction of the wonderfull, cool lua that every user of FreeBSD wants in the loader until these problems be solved?" Rod. On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Roderick wrote: > > Is there someone booting diskless? > > Since the introducction of the wonderfull, coll lua to the loader I > get the error: > > ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory > > With 12.0 I managed once to boot using the pxeboot of 11.2, but that > does not work anymore. > > Do someone boot diskless? > > I thank for any hint > Rod. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 29 17:07:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D8B4F2AD9 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DS3ft1n9Dz3PmZ for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B04BD8FB for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 19so9390677qkh.3 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:07:18 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531R6ivemLG5RlCtvMQui2Un+v2GmvomD/GN+fMStrTEhbc3WYlo zVuJqs6w7JSSH6XsN0yTA7TVAn3drUQ4CeyeA3g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx2uWNNnZCrKvaaqD2jYipceFAxa1WoFtkLmiQuOVB8Qitjv5wH8NHCy1F4rqq0XZrw7aSpRCmwOKpf9r4WF+Y= X-Received: by 2002:a37:591:: with SMTP id 139mr5103485qkf.493.1611940037661; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:07:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:07:03 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Diskless with 12.x not anymore possible To: Roderick Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:07:18 -0000 On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:04 AM Roderick wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Roderick wrote: > > > > > Is there someone booting diskless? > > > > Since the introducction of the wonderfull, coll lua to the loader I > > get the error: > > > > ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory > > > > With 12.0 I managed once to boot using the pxeboot of 11.2, but that > > does not work anymore. > > > > Do someone boot diskless? > > > > I thank for any hint > > Rod. > > > BTW, I am trying too boot i386. See also: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234031 > > Would not be better to delay the introduction of the wonderfull, cool > lua that every user of FreeBSD wants in the loader until these > problems be solved?" > > Rod. > Just to head this one off at the pass, your problem is not even remotely related to lualoader. 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I have just do the same with FreeBSD 11.4 and it is booting. The problem arises when booting, it does not just boot to the end. This kind of problems arose when lualoader was introduced. Not only I it is pointing to this problems. But lua is so cool, that the problems it produced are head off. Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 29 17:47:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD64F420E for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DS4Yh2TC8z3hpy for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qt1-f169.google.com (mail-qt1-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42A5AE60C for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qt1-f169.google.com with SMTP id c1so7296288qtc.1 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:47:52 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533bQqe305Ubx7ccdkrOHyOcypHf4///nSz5gOHegVOS5ttGOIXP metSrO6NJLIceDZ1ctfbPN1xE45z8vPtj4YCH9g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0pcCL+euBefmoS6OsDUStVd1PSQq7AqPjT6+/FNpNr6Lj4nyMst/h+lwk51tHHkCmS5YoP//PjL35+OYb8X8= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:100b:: with SMTP id z11mr5359704qti.60.1611942471898; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:47:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:47:38 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Diskless with 12.x not anymore possible To: Roderick Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:47:52 -0000 On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:42 AM Roderick wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Kyle Evans wrote: > > > Just to head this one off at the pass, your problem is not even > > remotely related to lualoader. > > I have just do the same with FreeBSD 11.4 and it is booting. > > The problem arises when booting, it does not just boot to the end. > > This kind of problems arose when lualoader was introduced. > > Not only I it is pointing to this problems. > > But lua is so cool, that the problems it produced are head off. > The set of people working on the area that can cause your problem, and the set of people working on lualoader, are completely disjoint. I am not the cause of your problem, and the people that might fix it are not detracted from working in their area because of what I do. 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How do I get old versions? Thanks Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 29 23:58:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09534FD23B for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DSDns3QZcz4bn0 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 10TNwuR8013764 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:58:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:58:56 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Roderick cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Diskless with 12.x not anymore possible In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 1970/01/01 00:00:00 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2021/01/29 17:15:00 #11688224 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSDns3QZcz4bn0 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of feenberg@nber.org designates 198.71.6.79 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=feenberg@nber.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.50 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.71.6.79:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nber.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[198.71.6.79:from]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26287, ipnet:198.71.6.0/23, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:58:58 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Roderick wrote: > > Is there someone booting diskless? We boot a dozen FreeBSD systems diskless to 12.0. I am no longer involved but I asked collegue Alex Aminoff who has done our recent upgrades. Here is his report: We have not had any trouble booting 12.0 diskless. What we did is take our 11.3 installation and upgraded it using freebsd-update . We had to do it carefully using the -b flag. In out boot directory, we have: -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 372736 Dec 23 12:02 boot/loader_lua -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 488960 Dec 23 12:02 boot/loader_lua.efi -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2402 Dec 23 12:02 boot/lua/loader.lua Hope this is of some help. We do like booting diskless and want to thank whoever at FreeBSD keeps it an option for us. > > Since the introducction of the wonderfull, coll lua to the loader I > get the error: > > ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory > > With 12.0 I managed once to boot using the pxeboot of 11.2, but that > does not work anymore. > > Do someone boot diskless? > > I thank for any hint > Rod. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 03:20:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79095523D35 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 03:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSKGT2Ttmz4pS1 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 03:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10U3KOms050566 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 20:20:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: no xpdf pkg? Message-ID: <1f33317c-8072-f561-748a-faaa64b8a468@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 20:15:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Fri, 29 Jan 2021 20:20:24 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSKGT2Ttmz4pS1 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.43 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.84)[0.837]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.971]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 03:20:34 -0000 Can anyone tell me why there is no package available for xpdf on 11.4-RELEASE-p3? freshports seems to imply there should be one. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 04:41:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA40525411 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 04:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSM3z1Npcz4syX for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 04:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10U4fWn6050778 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 21:41:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) From: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: no xpdf pkg? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1f33317c-8072-f561-748a-faaa64b8a468@dreamchaser.org> Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: <42403d93-ed88-52bd-b1c0-11d66042ec46@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 21:36:53 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f33317c-8072-f561-748a-faaa64b8a468@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Fri, 29 Jan 2021 21:41:32 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSM3z1Npcz4syX X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 04:41:36 -0000 On 1/29/21 8:15 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone tell me why there is no package available for xpdf on 11.4-RELEASE-p3? > > freshports seems to imply there should be one. Looks like it is because of problems with the ssl libraries: ===> qt5-gui-5.15.2_2 depends on shared library: libQt5Network.so - not found ===> qt5-network-5.15.2_1 is marked as broken: Qt5 requires Openssl 1.1.1, upgrade to FreeBSD 12.x/13.x or add DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=[openssl|libressl*] to /etc/make.conf. 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I have also an Intel Atom (amd64) that boots FreeBSD 12.2. The problem is with a AMD Geode LX800 (i386), without any drive. It seems problems arise for some systems, for other not. Rod. On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Roderick wrote: > >> >> Is there someone booting diskless? > > We boot a dozen FreeBSD systems diskless to 12.0. I am no longer involved > but I asked collegue Alex Aminoff who has done our recent upgrades. Here is > his report: > > We have not had any trouble booting 12.0 diskless. What we did is take > our 11.3 installation and upgraded it using freebsd-update . We had to > do it carefully using the -b flag. > > In out boot directory, we have: > > -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 372736 Dec 23 12:02 boot/loader_lua > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 488960 Dec 23 12:02 boot/loader_lua.efi > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2402 Dec 23 12:02 boot/lua/loader.lua > > Hope this is of some help. We do like booting diskless and want to thank > whoever at FreeBSD keeps it an option for us. > >> >> Since the introducction of the wonderfull, coll lua to the loader I >> get the error: >> >> ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory >> >> With 12.0 I managed once to boot using the pxeboot of 11.2, but that >> does not work anymore. >> >> Do someone boot diskless? >> >> I thank for any hint >> Rod. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 07:37:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E1F527CF3 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62c.google.com (mail-ej1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSQz33rbZz3J9k for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ej1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id hs11so16335017ejc.1 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:37:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version; bh=FFksbHK3DPfeOPeeXypbCoRtAMwsN1tOxpAWMY5Tau4=; b=coMgxPjkcFET9CPcJRt32WQNIfFS9gPkF4beuT9vp4/lbOmmazNn48rE/g1TXXcvD9 bT4GEtaLBnjp5b7rgWTEGBjPxXpy0Uv/c2B7qktHSFtwJpf1QUv7s9XKNScvbx5xhC2i GbRM07/HEWuPiKZqKXALULHZ4gMNkrNdYMT7gAq39pgWk5qZwdUxvTqon2gkp8Dbhw8E bEQnwyiU7lqGP4VEOjZhXnZs41tJ+uPVE45DyAo3NFqHFcTBvrfF6yP8KWbZRP0j7Q9+ Tw07Kf85g+bou0GgzCvxftEBADF/tOs0hVqn8a9GsKO6WQA91PWAW2M2FMge5jwogBKo 728Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=FFksbHK3DPfeOPeeXypbCoRtAMwsN1tOxpAWMY5Tau4=; b=RRFFY5OVlrqbslIVyGG/q8/JXbeajhrfXNVmSqfD0SioHtArWvfiNgmFdbNj1xhRqW pN/MoSbjuJ3ZfRO7y63wbyLrvPHF4xVTUzaefzWfniGgIJvb9ys1jJOKhLme9qr86dF5 Ab51H972sigmfdaYRlZabkSuRa0U9r3qTMbjiuOw/ize/jONt8PUA6bA0iuZbTs6c0Wn miJYVJKLXa3/DAm8HkmmcLyikdnRLz7vVdfqtGZ40aue8Z78SN6VkJXBAkFzD+5FbYz4 s3hwZqNlMcKz/RNnc78JdD/WB3mgcoCO5EyUoMdvzgQahzpy9foNZ7yyXmzGSUb4P6jG llvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ejjHYGyaoDNjS6StFAZhsd0Bt55Fwwk05pEmgI6Y4fVAkHnjG leQ0o0wdzFx5Qw5HvaiYvkYbSaFmVwo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJytbwkwGQxBIWOp+zxfauKVaySEKNhSLrePwx2eLTNiLeYU1M9IQAqmb36qLKZoi+bBqWuUgg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:cd12:: with SMTP id oz18mr7946936ejb.376.1611992251926; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.26] (dslb-188-102-010-085.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de. 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In-Reply-To: <1f33317c-8072-f561-748a-faaa64b8a468@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: References: <1f33317c-8072-f561-748a-faaa64b8a468@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.23 (BSF 453 2020-06-18) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSQz33rbZz3J9k X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=coMgxPjk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hruodr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hruodr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[188.102.10.85:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from:127.0.2.255]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:37:36 -0000 There is: xpdf3-3.04_11 It does not depend on qt. 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Rod can you share a little more detail on your setup? Ideally enough that somebody else can replicate it and your issue? The lua extensions are undeniably cool and also have been in place for over a couple of years now, enough for this thread https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lua-error-can-not-open-boot-lua-loader-lua.68635/ to give you a few more things to try and additional info to provide. 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[188.102.10.85]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b17sm5809609edv.56.2021.01.30.02.40.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 02:40:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:37:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Roderick To: Dave Cottlehuber cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Diskless with 12.x not anymore possible In-Reply-To: <036a4d5d-3c6c-4eac-a449-df00e64f59dc@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: References: <036a4d5d-3c6c-4eac-a449-df00e64f59dc@www.fastmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.23 (BSF 453 2020-06-18) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSW2Y4qTlz3jxF X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=d30GWXts; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hruodr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::636 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hruodr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[188.102.10.85:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::636:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::636:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::636:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:40:54 -0000 On Sat, 30 Jan 2021, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: >> ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory > > Rod can you share a little more detail on your setup? Ideally enough that somebody else can replicate it and your issue? There is little to share. No dmesg, because I do not reach the point of loading kernel. It is a Futro A220 thin client. No drive. With Free The following works for FreeBSD 10.4, but not for FreeBSD 12.2, if I disable APM: In dhcpd.conf: host pxe-client { hardware ethernet 00:90:DC:A1:99:9F; fixed-address 10.0.0.11; filename "fbsd104-i386/boot/pxeboot"; next-server 10.0.0.1; option root-path "10.0.0.1:/nfsexport/fbsd104-i386";} In /nfsexport/fbsd104-i386 the unpacked base.tgz and kernel.tfz of the FreeBSD 10.4 distribution. In fbsd104-i386/boot/pxeboot the pxeboot from /nfsexport/fbsd104-i386/boot. With FreeBSD 11.2 fails, but it loads the kernel, it is other problem than the cool lua. > The lua extensions are undeniably cool and also have been in place for over a couple of years now, > enough for this thread https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lua-error-can-not-open-boot-lua-loader-lua.68635/ to give you a few more things to try and additional info to provide. Yes, very cool. And since then there is lots of people having problems as you see in that link, but the problems are being ignored because the coolnes of lua blend us. But the bug report insinuates the problem has other source. Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 16:58:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B94F2D17 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSgQQ41dyz4mS5 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10UGwZN0053017 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:58:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: make config-recursive for an individual port Message-ID: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:53:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:58:35 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSgQQ41dyz4mS5 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.267]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.865]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:58:40 -0000 I have most ports installed via packages. But when I do a make config-recursive from the directory of an individual port, it brings up the config dialogs of packages which are already installed. In fact, it appears as if it is trying to configure the whole ports tree, but of that I can't be sure; things like git, curl, bash-completion, etc. Does this mean it is going to try to build those ports as well? Does this mean it will try to install them when I do a make install? If not, why are they being configured in the first place? Now a bit apprehensive... Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 17:08:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E4D4F2E67 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com (mail-wr1-x42f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSgds6rZwz4nJn for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id 7so12072154wrz.0 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:08:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zv3uv9q5EOzaScFfcSsuj8AyJ+Jjldt18J4QqAgbJr4=; b=PhWRUpXQ7kiwQxVGVE1QTOazrqAhnFcuThInFRzOktQDs3Xy8IeMJ0kzBjLoQLJFFs tI5YyJvVTW7eqMa0iCjb3326K6XEu+QTTeMlzR9PpsrXZ2++eMUcl0fUCmp/NqJUreSl cOoKEHPcYafK8doNygPje9IdHMCRmnrkd42qXMzgxHBLMrZmPTPUnh5x8zHMxpp8Ei30 N2a84snUVjDkfbfy80hDtfhLIAAq38DHIKUwkF8OqXHBZY1+DcPKwrkGX6pIdgwTc5g1 uF47XITCzpARleHkhV/Ig281utvU0gdUFitDE5CsuCg1BzQhpMhk3eKjz40icjrIA2px O4aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532F23J3POXWKQjBdPBbtbbiqJWgMx3Iyw1O62IUaKaBipn4cSCo jo8CyADZGBq0hmId8Q50o5JeSHJZ71Wavw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxQ3CJGkp8cce6L4ALPx+dbEggoQ4PHYLbcllaGStp1NAx2xSzTUF70/kKgb0fOQb4iis/LLQ== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:47a8:: with SMTP id 8mr10039308wrb.180.1612026512125; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.223.83.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i7sm9820074wmq.2.2021.01.30.09.08.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:08:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port Message-ID: <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSgds6rZwz4nJn X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.223.83.101:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42f:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42f:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42f:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:34 -0000 On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:53:56 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > I have most ports installed via packages. > But when I do a make config-recursive from the directory of an > individual port, it brings up the config dialogs of packages which > are already installed. In fact, it appears as if it is trying to > configure the whole ports tree, but of that I can't be sure; things > like git, curl, bash-completion, etc. > > Does this mean it is going to try to build those ports as well? > Does this mean it will try to install them when I do a make install? > If not, why are they being configured in the first place? Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the current port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" it will build the dependencies that aren't already installed. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 17:14:39 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A33E4F3255 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSgmt10twz4nrN for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1612026878; x=1614618878; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=KIRa1ibbokbOipJvyfXDOolBtXm6YRwhxLRejZOzTug=; b=VWHw77hjr48c+agjBtu2eAmlsCooMhpIXWdPhMrmfqH7fovJAYSRCPXPhPYyqOck7jK5RhrFS/IMtt2tXf8CIJy67RhUY6YXmAYYrlDHhcCibaDQcGxAt7qAp8/esXEcWcT2NU9ttZYRWS6WquxXnSqS//LWdIc+/oEya9kr2zk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRjZDAwMDBlNDJjOGMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 12:14:26 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 12:14:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l5tpI-000AXt-Pd; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:24 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port Message-Id: <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSgmt10twz4nrN X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=VWHw77hj; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4cd0000e42c8c.3dffc972741f682a68dca2560864192f@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[googlemail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:39 -0000 On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the current > port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" it will build > the dependencies that aren't already installed. It helps minimise building to use make missing to get a list of dependencies and install those with pkg install -A. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 17:48:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83194F41D4 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DShWq06Q3z4r95 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10UHmLbY053144; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:48:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) From: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RW References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:43:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:48:21 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DShWq06Q3z4r95 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:48:23 -0000 On 1/30/21 10:14 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the current >> port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" it will build >> the dependencies that aren't already installed. I understand the -recursive will configure dependent ports. What I don't understand is why it would configure dependent ports which are already installed, since they will not be reinstalled. It makes no sense to configure them without first uninstalling them. I know the process of configuring "hangs around" even if you uninstall a port, but it seems strange to have a behavior inconsistent with the normal order for building things. It is presuming install - configure - deinstall - build - install is a reasonable sequence of operations, where a more reasonable one would be install - deinstall - configure - build - install. > It helps minimise building to use make missing to get a list of > dependencies and install those with pkg install -A. Thanks. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 18:23:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E19F4F52B8 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSjHq4sDYz4syY for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:23:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.139]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXXhv-1lTLoi2A5n-00Z20M; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 19:22:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 19:22:50 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port Message-Id: <20210130192250.bb8ac8f1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9vd4NFAYgQQxKZXvaobdw0hNl6cob8qQgEiqx7ivZ+NLb6dmAML krmIoOmr+SHzVHa9Pu+IRxxcmwpS+v2Qt30rabdVo0TmC7JaugGxCWKzMH4+WBYDumRC2AB W84ECoanK1DgufUVeZZy+Tou33jXlUcOyhMPqTPbC5eB2kWEnoEwUHgt07IlbRoW4FSRIXV FNexKc4LdJQitNXRiu9pg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:IUQ6x/RYJxs=:ZrVVxm1xRgdz7U4VuVeaeH BxGytFrR1T0htQi3sCam1znoSQLtC0Sy6FJjVSlf9fxti2jYQ86Lb1YwSGF4K6ifhGkJdGufr mVFUk/UwqiFrJ0RNxEmGuYrDtedAJUYGTh48HgPNADA66fSwrHqqqW1OnRS7Luxm699jPaJ4H 9pbVg56tSofZJhoQPzgrO0IOZmTA3SC/2Ly9fIRW9+bxxzgUX6gVzWbTxmDE1ztSUr9nKf6UJ 9wtT9IL945yfeGGPllEOXN2uzTFAtAaryjttKCg2tK8FlBu94KdiHQUGPDG1MFWi/dDK44/YI 8Od83kVn8Ka/jj0oq4k+SHIYVdcsv7wq7RR/K2Bs3nSejHaphih/Y6NUq85BY4NY3MmRUkKau xSjVX6CLK0kjicURvM3URDtpQ0GkdHyTERybouikz39uLlJ/yUTPhWRG3TCnx X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSjHq4sDYz4syY X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.59 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.222.9.139:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.985]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[sohara.org,freebsd.org,googlemail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:23:05 -0000 On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:43:42 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 1/30/21 10:14 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 > > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > >> Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the current > >> port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" it will build > >> the dependencies that aren't already installed. > > I understand the -recursive will configure dependent ports. What I don't > understand is why it would configure dependent ports which are already > installed, since they will not be reinstalled. They will be re-installed in case you change options. Only a port with default options equals the already installed package. > It makes no sense to > configure them without first uninstalling them. You can reconfigure them, but only the "make install" step will require uninstalling them first. The configured options will stay; for example, running "make configure" will only allow you to change the options, but nothing else. The changed options might affect the "make" and "make install" stage, and might even introduce new dependencies. That "make configure" step can be done independently of the already installed package, such as the "make patch" step would. Only "make install" affects things that are connected with the already installed port, and "make" _could_ require (re)installation of dependencies, especially if those are build dependencies (as opposed to runtime dependencies) which a certain configuration option might require. Example: You have installed "foo" with the default settings. You do "make configure" and select "optimization". Now the dependency lists changes in a way that "bar-asm" is needed (which it wouldn't for the default settings). You run "make", and because bar-asm isn't there, it will be installed. You then run "make install" - and _here_ it stops because "foo" is still installed. At this stage de-installation and re-installation is needed, but not yet at the configuration stage (or even before it). > It is presuming install - configure - deinstall - build - install > is a reasonable sequence of operations, where a more reasonable one would > be install - deinstall - configure - build - install. Reconfiguring a port does not imply you first have to uninstall it. As mentioned above, only the installation step requires uninstallation of the already installed port, not the configuring step. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 18:53:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C944F5BD0 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSjyz43MYz4vFS for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10UIrP89053294; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:53:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port To: Polytropon Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> <20210130192250.bb8ac8f1.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <23af1d90-df20-adcf-81ad-1bce4dbbbd4e@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:48:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210130192250.bb8ac8f1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:53:25 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSjyz43MYz4vFS X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.109.141.57:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[sohara.org,freebsd.org,googlemail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:53:32 -0000 On 1/30/21 11:22 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:43:42 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 1/30/21 10:14 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 >>> RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> >>>> Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the current >>>> port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" it will build >>>> the dependencies that aren't already installed. >> >> I understand the -recursive will configure dependent ports. What I don't >> understand is why it would configure dependent ports which are already >> installed, since they will not be reinstalled. > > They will be re-installed in case you change options. Only a > port with default options equals the already installed package. But, as you point out later, they will not be re-installed without manually deinstalling first. Which is my point. Why would one go through this process without deinstalling first? Because you want to keep the existing dependencies to run existing stuff? I can see that, but after doing this without deinstalling first your whole set of configurations is inconsistent with what you are running, and you have no way to really know how your running system is configured. >> It makes no sense to >> configure them without first uninstalling them. > > You can reconfigure them, but only the "make install" step > will require uninstalling them first. The configured options > will stay; for example, running "make configure" will only > allow you to change the options, but nothing else. The > changed options might affect the "make" and "make install" > stage, and might even introduce new dependencies. That > "make configure" step can be done independently of the > already installed package, such as the "make patch" > step would. Only "make install" affects things that are > connected with the already installed port, and "make" > _could_ require (re)installation of dependencies, especially > if those are build dependencies (as opposed to runtime > dependencies) which a certain configuration option might > require. thanks for the clear explanation >> It is presuming install - configure - deinstall - build - install >> is a reasonable sequence of operations, where a more reasonable one would >> be install - deinstall - configure - build - install. > > Reconfiguring a port does not imply you first have to > uninstall it. As mentioned above, only the installation > step requires uninstallation of the already installed > port, not the configuring step. I understand now how it works; I still question why it works that way, since it leaves you with a system whose configuration you can't determine. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 19:00:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A034F610E for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 19:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSk7M4Kz6z4vRt for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 19:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 50259 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2021 19:00:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=c451.6015acd8.k2101; bh=YOKh35n7GK57Kkqhsd/AmcfqJfVgfXTHGq5KB70qgXQ=; b=VfUDreTPgLRqa5zq/3Vrr4MBB/PYfp4/Uyyy1cD6SgGmLS/M0lYJPITMgVlZYBCcJl/+H0dCabv9T+G1PVZUD5fALryy3G0zxpVw2Heqj6btS24X/31Db2qD5WRyADY+D+i2+3vL5GD1skLJSgALM+hz2nb2vrxKirY+3vzlXXA/v3BiHEBYEdlX7qccsL1atQBniPMqtR+dhlc4lKVvDXgv7ca+4XoDLa5iLV6dcnGSA9QEoRgZmZfimy6/IoRa1eALEWSdjXBEBbdIuNz3Lu0p4KWgI5M8/oCZ8t+XPUhFC26MkIKU4Vc9blqv115bMFcaCAQ9S+QyRSe2bsEjCQ== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD) via TCP6; 30 Jan 2021 19:00:40 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 030D86D029BF; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:00:39 -0500 (EST) Date: 30 Jan 2021 14:00:39 -0500 Message-Id: <20210130190040.030D86D029BF@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no xpdf pkg? 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Try xpdf3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 30 22:31:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4318C4FADE1 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x335.google.com (mail-wm1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DSppk29Yxz3NKR for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x335.google.com with SMTP id i9so10007918wmq.1 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:31:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1cFpyiftQvBQG+fZ3aCcCrsODu1yhCSoGI6S9SjTulA=; b=jon5LtdrBHFPVxY9g/rGRnp9R1t+snsLASqQalKxwQtcO5bRBXHWVm/hXIFarvf5l7 3HGefVU8bXxQpuqnISJtEy+eyXa0FGdcm0RjRiEI9vknQJR8AC0NBcdNBGZhpC7du7u8 Vck+4356T5M1Z/wIX5aiyfKj9HVs0vrReVXrGXRYSa5JK/YNDP5Yx+I4KoWCuqmBh55o ELVJFAfn6EEtafO1fhVLqnDwTV5wbhZ4aoJ1NMMvC4Gi68PrZCUiUhzSHprlX053FR0n Egvddy1cRD6xLIfvd/xmyqYJUrxGhVdj4KhpV8Bt0XzL6CUgFfnHAJqnAOljUmkhkQKx B/NQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530PNJjraA49Q3w72lo4xI/CVs37Mlf/7fr3+riuWYbsM5ojxj2w 7we4WIEswAv2fASyn4U7vMlgpjT/++t20g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwJXN/EnTiNMJyeCQFRr39OVaz0D13imN3O48xU5LM2H/4DWL2a4XeK1+WSka0o+Aysu4XTBQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:22c8:: with SMTP id 8mr7020556wmg.11.1612045901026; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:31:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.223.83.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z63sm15794528wme.8.2021.01.30.14.31.40 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:31:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:31:39 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make config-recursive for an individual port Message-ID: <20210130223139.44dc3483@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5dfb1c4a-d7b3-2059-c76e-7cfd1490c812@dreamchaser.org> <20210130170828.0299f4b5@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210130171424.b9e0f55048c5c3b9cff042f5@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DSppk29Yxz3NKR X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.223.83.101:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::335:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::335:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::335:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:31:43 -0000 On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:43:42 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > On 1/30/21 10:14 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:08:28 +0000 > > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > >> Because that's what the "-recursive" part means - configure the > >> current port and anything it depends on. When you "make install" > >> it will build the dependencies that aren't already installed. > > I understand the -recursive will configure dependent ports. What I > don't understand is why it would configure dependent ports which are > already installed, since they will not be reinstalled. Because you asked it to by using the 'config-recursive' target rather than 'config'. The config-recursive target is a lot older than pkg(8) and it's not optimised for what you are trying to do. Probably what you want is: make config make -DBATCH install or just the second line if you want the default options for the current port. As already mentioned running "make missing" and pre-installing missing packages with pkg(8) makes sense if you want to save time, though not necessarily effort. Once you have the dependencies installed it will probably be straightforward to maintain it, with pkg upgrade handling the dependencies.