From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 16 01:24:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB4262EF95 for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 01:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kludev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x135.google.com (mail-il1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FjPgg0J43z4swM for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 01:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kludev@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x135.google.com with SMTP id c16so3054444ilo.1 for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DqFvJVkVZpf2L+ry6niLZZpxmjzXkoGCW30gjbi+1Dw=; b=px3wUQ8VVzpi1FtgBsHR5OWUVcpiBl0OkbSCy9HL76W0td0MNIni1FvhYRmjl6YXIX zvD34VCb0zSTEEDGomVRCusoxnT2baHu3Vd+FfCPwf14FjkRGP4WITVCyo4IODJZJm0b 4cYBUqXsoHlZK9wQIcHeZmn+st48/kihS7ptVu2F8xCL3k97z0Qrg0fumMx7DzX/sErX wsmfocnSL9nVzStUInG/Ofrf2bUFjBGFZu7QXSrdFnyFidHr288uJRVVB4zmdgMUM6E8 SOP2+MVqdmoSJdf2MsD27uVNnyFg42eHQ/0SlYJ7TMQ9AuMzlfLPOkn9VcpNlljozlb7 ziZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DqFvJVkVZpf2L+ry6niLZZpxmjzXkoGCW30gjbi+1Dw=; b=YhyxGKy5s4gh3kCLCKrOOuoZMQ9F63PbdyRV1s3KqaftBh1mNguqWnqIb//i44DaGB 2PvdewsW/rkstt6HALjWiYOctRmX/3G5c2Tt6Hj7mbIKW0tnpzUsckPUApPk1PnbdgAQ L94Ypic3zagZbMRR6IOtTIlK25RKYQcT8mXbhKb6s/a/x4EEE6JE2w6B7RB8fxphshFu IUPsPxKFiPUe/HrNGwPzGOts6dqsFBiJ2IV7h25CSx5GaGJTO+x+y93kDJVkBLFDu82f khruX1epXwVqCSwWHJ01FY+33H+IR8N6Fb9IIYMDqEamJ4CGN67O5b0WNmhMrDcWK1r/ BEfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530YM+5H5/iuyI4oijZ0tiwQISdvHIuQI3rmUpGnaCnej0vjvMy4 YI8JT+8xkmuDZs6nOFFYxqYEs4IcOxrvMBLy3H8kndHi X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0iILhZEZtlWfv0+YUkNsO0NckFN7hgD9rs6WvMkxyD2KTqDZj0pQL2C+YY3hJuQxEi8geQ5WPO44QcnWF7TA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:13ad:: with SMTP id h13mr500043ilo.169.1621128270146; Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: K Lu Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Can non-root user create/start services? 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The scenario is that I want to mount a cloud storage fuse using rclone[1]. But this only makes sense at user level, not system wide. If I cannot then what would be the suggestion? Thanks! K [1]: https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_mount/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 16 17:53:04 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B062ADBA for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 17:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FjqcH3yKtz4vV3 for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 17:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1liKwi-0000ub-GF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 May 2021 19:52:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonesy Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 17:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FjqcH3yKtz4vV3 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[116.202.254.214:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[116.202.254.214:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_REJECT(2.00)[jonz.net : SPF not aligned (strict), No valid DKIM,reject]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[SPAM_TRAP_gmane@jonz.net,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[SPAM_TRAP_gmane@jonz.net,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 May 2021 04:38:57 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 17:53:04 -0000 On Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:19 -0700, K Lu wrote: > As subject asks. The scenario is that I want to mount a cloud storage fuse > using rclone[1]. But this only makes sense at user level, not system wide. > > If I cannot then what would be the suggestion? sshfs -p 22 -- userid@example.net:/home/userid/ $HOME/-mount-point-/ ... using public/private key for login. Later, to unmount: fusermount -u $HOME/-mount-point-/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 17 13:19:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7E4647769 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dvoich@optonline.net) Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.optonline.net", Issuer "DigiCert Global CA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FkKV30G2Rz4qkS for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dvoich@optonline.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=optonline.net; s=dkim-001; t=1621257562; bh=IarZ9SKJ+B4SffsdjwMEWax04FuKRdAvdtCBHCaGIa0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id; b=FQEeoRu2Wl2ixQtEI50RAz4DaxfWX/2FCtVJUKoldcD9c2YcKyJd3Vh+VFNan9ol4 nmryzbQ9YCd+L8lVOjKfsHEzqMmHDyWGpfgUfoPaZ5sA4evVXHc1no0Tth1WQbsXRz jTFMtE4Bc9Mfhvcpqme4JK6AbnIDFc8+z+tM5V26D9AE5G/i/S7vTAB3U+VOwsHTdK XIbtNSWUsn4kgmg7ZUkNuHY1ROGfL+1Ruxopf9R7CcaaZeC87rFxJBJFKrUIqfGPY2 g4jn3L7USrxUP9bAFn4mYfUmZBOct2xD6NutXkLqnYa/KRKKC4FkRX3oCMzu/VLMYK yjolPKzDuK//A== X-Content-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=INKZ9jnG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=HwdfnXRxwAscIlw0plT8Bw==:117 a=HwdfnXRxwAscIlw0plT8Bw==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=OK-8mIdLAAAA:8 a=aOkUPqCTaNGvZjkbDvUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=bPPIUcp-n4lFe3GeRkWd:22 Received: from [24.185.145.223] ([24.185.145.223:33780] helo=happy.dwarf7.net) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 1C/A0-17081-A5D62A06; Mon, 17 May 2021 09:19:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 09:19:21 -0400 From: Vlad Markov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? Message-Id: <20210517091921.7bcbba9fa9e74266170acf37@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FkKV30G2Rz4qkS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=optonline.net header.s=dkim-001 header.b=FQEeoRu2; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dvoich@optonline.net designates 167.206.4.220 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dvoich@optonline.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.11 / 15.00]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[167.206.4.220:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[optonline.net]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:167.206.4.192/27]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[optonline.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.30)[-0.300]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[167.206.4.220:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[optonline.net]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6128, ipnet:167.206.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[optonline.net:s=dkim-001]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[24.185.145.223:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[167.206.4.220:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[optonline.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.71)[-0.708]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[optonline.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[167.206.4.220:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:19:24 -0000 On Sun, 16 May 2021 17:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Jonesy via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:19 -0700, K Lu wrote: > > As subject asks. The scenario is that I want to mount a cloud storage fuse > > using rclone[1]. But this only makes sense at user level, not system wide. > > > > If I cannot then what would be the suggestion? > > sshfs -p 22 -- userid@example.net:/home/userid/ $HOME/-mount-point-/ > > ... using public/private key for login. > > Later, to unmount: > > fusermount -u $HOME/-mount-point-/ > I use smbnetfs which is a fuse mount as a regular user. MOUNT_CMD="/usr/local/bin/smbnetfs" MOUNT_PT="/home/vlad/share" I followed the directions in the handbook to make this happen. Its possible your situation is equivalent. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 17 17:24:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080C664E1D6 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 17:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpg.telissant.net (smtpg.telissant.net [104.225.1.73]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FkQwc4zWqz4g3P for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 17:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from sacada.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FkQwV5wVDz2D1r8 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:24:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpg.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by sacada.3dresearch.com (sacada.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CYA7UyWB1cpg for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (unknown [71.112.242.160]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elettra@sacada.3dresearch.com) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FkQwV2Xcvz2D1r7 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elettra.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D8B5576085 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:23:59 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: amavisd-new does not reliably restart Message-Id: <20210517132359.e9c95c96177e641165a45157@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FkQwc4zWqz4g3P X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of web@3dresearch.com designates 104.225.1.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=web@3dresearch.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ENVFROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.112.242.160:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[104.225.1.73:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:104.225.1.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[3dresearch.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[104.225.1.73:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 17:24:18 -0000 Hello Everyone, For some time, amavisd-new does not restart every time newsyslog(8) starts new log file (FreeBSD 12.2-STABLE r368820, amavisd-new-2.12.0_1,1). Example of normal restart (I notice the log entries "warm restart on HUP" and similar): https://pastebin.com/2Rt6inin Example of restart (after almost 3 minutes) manually or with monit(1): https://pastebin.com/1jNAvDe4 Entry in /etc/newsyslog.conf: /var/log/amavisd.log vscan:vscan 644 30 * @T00 JC /var/amavis/amavisd.pid Would you please give me a hint? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 02:14:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF6763ADF8 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 02:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from p-impout008.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (p-impout008aa.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net [47.43.26.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fkfhh41fcz3mcb for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 02:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([74.130.26.206]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id ipFklmCP2nDwfipFklzzjo; Tue, 18 May 2021 02:14:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=I5Kg+Psg c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=60a3230c a=z/aFADl9BQgjty3gllkVug==:117 a=z/aFADl9BQgjty3gllkVug==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=PljyrcicN9Sn4ki-4cYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=Ew2E2A-JSTLzCXPT_086:22 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Subject: Can't start X Message-ID: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 22:14:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfBsPT5Stz7xXQv0s+ekJudOBvlKg7EcYbn8Ts6DCszsh6dqMtUZDqk3pandsoVUt11JgPgd3r9VRtyYrVwgTRvmNbcMiu0bgsY8LU2RoliXBU+QEA8YQ F3vY0XBouWrlwqJQLIdamwJzB1tvSKhA7pgu8+7kcIfaWNplVrEqfjiYp+YkbUMgClKP2ztGXZIdQCKsVH+HZ8xpV80UxBFLPAw= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fkfhh41fcz3mcb X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@twc.com designates 47.43.26.139 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.79 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[47.43.26.139:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[TWC.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[47.43.26.139:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[TWC.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:47.43.26.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.49)[-0.491]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40294, ipnet:47.43.24.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[74.130.26.206:received] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 02:14:45 -0000 Get message about WARNING: Kernel has no file descriptor comparison support I'm running 12.2-STABLE, I git everyday both /usr/ports and /usr/src. I've tried deleting all of my ports and re-installing them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 03:25:09 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B573E63C581 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 03:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x1029.google.com (mail-pj1-x1029.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FkhFw6hByz4TF2 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 03:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pj1-x1029.google.com with SMTP id pi6-20020a17090b1e46b029015cec51d7cdso759102pjb.5 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 20:25:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=O6ITVaupozZVWbWL555LEcElTOD08RMM5Y66jlBpAQU=; b=diWCNL1G9/jjOWpd/vm7nWuYBO6cI/4/ZYHw0GUgNnqysxfVG/xR7gyi4O1fa+1gqa XjOFqrlqaO7DHToLYAHZkbhVyY34vXg0jc6EFUff3QSfL01fiCvl2BUf2Zm5JM4qKw/L gLJjU2i/sa1A9EXKQmoqalR29xtyjZX+FKdwPSA9zYnt7yPnPsBHttbZSxsVMWFkDrYU ToOafnbe4727n9MR6UfHcGspJMUdGfpgGQV9RipAIn+BW9+jr/RjV1rn9lBJzNc0xjMJ zm0RvBbIZYB9oGztzv7rDWz6ss2CJmYCpHcKzgIMRnCfy5I9vCSwIKS5Gr+ELGZ85jrG H/Bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=O6ITVaupozZVWbWL555LEcElTOD08RMM5Y66jlBpAQU=; b=LuneNoCZQzYsdWVGaBWio3wqy+N4ABtuPiZ5qbZ2vh9FejnuYvXOjjPtAgT58C1+EM zHtBI/u1jI3L5t6fMNXtsUqfUl6hV6jbyqb3raIokqVYra+5KCADVSFxOHFYuZVw316W lal9CkVrwW4NP/J3gChzfIisEHF0yWQ3NutI/S4AlNh4kZ+RpCGy7kc2w+L14MJZYBwZ N07fnyOGMQHkh1gOn5isGHfTPnntoZ/dF/0CLch+e/1xHebcXNdtyq9dl67WhREdqRSA wj2lR+pKCEdWUegN8yNJWgLem06R/z62tDxvlJvWnt8+orhZRpxg9LYs+VrXfCmhoqFz tlPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530fZeukS5OMMFqHSz6+LYN2w6K8gLwwKGM9ckRuDBbeSF4T0u93 YHygfHMc+sGE9FQqu8hXocQtkAXuPhU5k35XKuJiu0CZ0d6/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0s70FQ1//FL6ZuqJ7qHHWVeRi4taNyTMDquhooeaPtPpFgOWyN8uwgqTo2vaZ8sUcmlgx5v0JWT0VFRAdgQk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:aa02:b029:f0:cc19:faae with SMTP id be2-20020a170902aa02b02900f0cc19faaemr2084756plb.57.1621308307552; Mon, 17 May 2021 20:25:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> In-Reply-To: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> From: Paul Procacci Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 23:24:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can't start X To: Steven Friedrich Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FkhFw6hByz4TF2 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=diWCNL1G; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pprocacci@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pprocacci@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.26 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.74)[0.741]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 03:25:09 -0000 The error message comes from mesa. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=57e4d0aa1c16d3be36ccee4065c55901cb6fad43 You may want to try removing your font-config caches or any caches that use mesa in some fashion and trying again. On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:14 PM Steven Friedrich wrote: > Get message about WARNING: Kernel has no file descriptor comparison support > > I'm running 12.2-STABLE, I git everyday both /usr/ports and /usr/src. > > I've tried deleting all of my ports and re-installing them. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 03:32:22 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249B463C33C for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 03:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from p-impout006.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (p-impout006aa.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net [47.43.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FkhQF115gz4VVB for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 03:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([74.130.26.206]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id iqSrlzkFtB5K5iqSrlitpM; Tue, 18 May 2021 03:32:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=ZqIol/3G c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=60a3353d a=z/aFADl9BQgjty3gllkVug==:117 a=z/aFADl9BQgjty3gllkVug==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=e5mUnYsNAAAA:8 a=UNWf5WQ7AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=c7nMs09XatBAV32i0_4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=RVOkqqOxTTsJNUD7kmAA:9 a=_4L4l0W5Ak4W2pez:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Vxmtnl_E_bksehYqCbjh:22 a=TmY6P1tBX-PGzTCW-pm6:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Subject: Re: Can't start X Cc: FreeBSD Questions References: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> From: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <38a8e918-ede9-de5b-d3a0-9d9a78ba07ef@TWC.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 23:32:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfMYQJolw1jxsYBjhuRGr6TQ88zlEuNxfbGDeLyB+MOxuljLIV34Ik+ELggl5MbfgsNr055wVjoxABkD7V6lkD+c74NF98W1zECXPSk3c8jCZWVmhSliP tdqdp/KGc+LLrU2SFPFLevd5WDxuFKW6clSOQ5Ll/OKcIWoyVP4LMbzIyIRn2OkTv46ENoAVVhkw14JWT8H8YZOngGsW8IEz9Gk= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FkhQF115gz4VVB X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@twc.com designates 47.43.26.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.52 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[TWC.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:47.43.26.0/24]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[74.130.26.206:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40294, ipnet:47.43.24.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[47.43.26.137:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[TWC.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[47.43.26.137:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.822]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 03:32:22 -0000 On 5/17/2021 11:24 PM, Paul Procacci wrote: > The error message comes from mesa. > > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=57e4d0aa1c16d3be36ccee4065c55901cb6fad43 > > > You may want to try removing your font-config caches or any caches > that use mesa in some fashion and trying again. How do I remove font-config caches? > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:14 PM Steven Friedrich > wrote: > > Get message about WARNING: Kernel has no file descriptor > comparison support > > I'm running 12.2-STABLE, I git everyday both /usr/ports and /usr/src. > > I've tried deleting all of my ports and re-installing them. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > > -- > __________________ > > :(){ :|:& };: From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 05:38:08 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4100063FEB6 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 05:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com (mail-wr1-x42b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FklCM3w1Bz4s6Y for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 05:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id p7so4963285wru.10 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 22:38:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=6liqKgtkvZ5LJii62eIB4XNo2p85CRAiAgsfZXMYgUE=; b=Er0JzIFSiZVbGAxb5K6Gae4YeFWNrpa7/oz53YyFHG0TZh+g7Bc9gW/fgIZNUdu9cJ jbAjLSSIxVBqpkeA680rxDLuZfRcCeUdZRKQVrBHC7jjGMXM/IGNHUzLl05GXzd5+aRt 83KBW9XxIXsIFecfEy9+1xPCLoZp9JxlWbJdHKvuwDsGNqPtYoT94qr67wT2mnre5X2r /qGHAH6YJdxh0rIv70cqJA2srbgGq2gozzSNOcbmt7HwW0rJeMtQgeobgSLhNzVuVXtL 0LaB9HimTUjyKHJ1IbyG/FJ8MhlSznKQzBZQleEdeahuwQH432LbhMQ3KvpG9BDBVyC8 3hGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=6liqKgtkvZ5LJii62eIB4XNo2p85CRAiAgsfZXMYgUE=; b=W4f8pAMOQjSbGPVzWg/pACxk7ee+urYFjX/Fts9aBDXTjb20yE5oRQyd74QTmOeATJ ruKN5/rAtq5C9JIdjHw/8W8oIVyr+909cwAShLcjztQtigsuw4h77Gmxfb7hRsQP9EjL FvEjbxiZx7luzW2m8WIFILeMpE6wZ+x8qH4YgNm4yQedyHM27c7qMPvb1WmXCXgCjPh3 4UBjp4/mxtWBGDXrx92vGdJTo9i5mkOvGI2c2jX6i00F8pRZoc1ABeVmH6LSkBkKGxNi Od7wqtCBNql3kkiSs5qPOAAMYdfW4EGN3kkMF9UxiYCfvR3DITaO0PeVe3D0FChMgSk/ 0Y4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ytLOCzAsjhTBOH3S5RZp11RP1IcrF8/s0nDu8akQt3bwSG3iD 0n7dYoX+H6JulJSaHMrhf21aOyvkL6Lc+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzTjrahVfSmWiTAkzO0G8PqFUSF5kvMIwpncMhETY9av1QX/0yElVqlaqM5Z1lq26fA6O0k4g== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6701:: with SMTP id o1mr4472113wru.390.1621316285401; Mon, 17 May 2021 22:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. [88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 61sm21155283wrm.52.2021.05.17.22.38.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 May 2021 22:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: caches for fontconfig and Mesa (was: Can't start X) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> <38a8e918-ede9-de5b-d3a0-9d9a78ba07ef@TWC.com> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 06:38:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <38a8e918-ede9-de5b-d3a0-9d9a78ba07ef@TWC.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FklCM3w1Bz4s6Y X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Er0JzIFS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42b:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42b:from:127.0.2.255]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42b:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 05:38:08 -0000 On 18/05/2021 04:32, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On 5/17/2021 11:24 PM, Paul Procacci wrote: >> The error message comes from mesa. >> >> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=57e4d0aa1c16d3be36ccee4065c55901cb6fad43 >> >> >> >> You may want to try removing your font-config caches or any caches >> that use mesa in some fashion and trying again. > How do I remove font-config caches? I can't find a relevant manual page – sorry – but I'm aware of the fontconfig directories in some users' home directories. % du -hs ~/.cache/fontconfig 2.8M    /home/grahamperrin/.cache/fontconfig % sudo du -hs /root/.cache/fontconfig grahamperrin's password: du: /root/.cache/fontconfig: No such file or directory % pkg info -x fontconfig mesa fontconfig-2.13.93,1 linux-c7-fontconfig-2.13.0 mesa-dri-20.2.3_1 mesa-libs-20.2.3 % man fontconfig No manual entry for fontconfig % From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 06:28:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C172641388 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 06:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ml@daemonbytes.net) Received: from www442.your-server.de (www442.your-server.de [78.47.106.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FkmKc25Lgz3HsK for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 06:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ml@daemonbytes.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daemonbytes.net; s=default2011; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=YnjyDQWpxFctH56Nj2VIO2hBZdqPMqhGFqoCRaEu840=; b=M+ritdGDY4qAm5+ZHz3po3msQl HoBf18JTlIV9rnxUkLF+EOARnRIqw7I0xZFMuOpMQBYayjBVt1B4LHuEcrVWzD+7pqMps2JukYqq5 ogAwUhfHLY2GZkxZSKe+WLUtOamvCQiV/VEVa/9h+RzuaBxBbCtRE8D0t4l1gX9+bqoY63ZegK8i9 s++1u6aUaIlDfzKKRq0Z3VtcCd0Sq2ntBLGCmCnm52DRPwjC3Tdx+0RMLHh6qMMAivzG68kXcaGAB oD1qCGIh+BWGODxUQZpfTy36TPvuvbqa/UHGKw4xdM8d8ICRu7pgaT5Maz842ahZwYOCsWPmvtKqK /qn6/FUw==; Received: from sslproxy06.your-server.de ([78.46.172.3]) by www442.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1litDP-000DKP-SH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:28 +0200 Received: from [2003:df:9f4c:9400:389c:c994:c5aa:4600] (helo=beastie) by sslproxy06.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1litDP-000LaF-PS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:27 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 08:26:35 +0200 From: Daniel Dowse To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: caches for fontconfig and Mesa (was: Can't start X) Message-Id: <20210518082635.fc33dab92ecaec4fe99a619a@daemonbytes.net> In-Reply-To: References: <79a1bf20-2dfc-96cd-a88b-74f2020df351@TWC.com> <38a8e918-ede9-de5b-d3a0-9d9a78ba07ef@TWC.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: freebsd-ml@daemonbytes.net X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.103.2/26173/Mon May 17 13:11:33 2021) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FkmKc25Lgz3HsK X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=daemonbytes.net header.s=default2011 header.b=M+ritdGD; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-ml@daemonbytes.net designates 78.47.106.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-ml@daemonbytes.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[daemonbytes.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[78.47.106.34:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[daemonbytes.net:~]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[daemonbytes.net:s=default2011]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[78.47.106.34:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 06:28:37 -0000 On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:38:03 +0100 Graham Perrin wrote: > [snip] > >> You may want to try removing your font-config caches or any caches > >> that use mesa in some fashion and trying again. > > How do I remove font-config caches? > [snap] Hi, you can try fc-cache -rv -- Daniel Dowse From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 16:31:26 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09230651447 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42c.google.com (mail-wr1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fl1j9459dz3FVc for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id y14so8839730wrm.13 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=LTg0IolSuGC+cQ4huJKMoSvlwekDYMSgh3wZrtUuZiA=; b=ND582M6Fx986UHircetrVQpipeTt4S3i4VdRK0Y4RWaIJff7al0GIGBUd1nPCgVdJt HhT8qxYUulUV4rstNmRHGioFlXOVwY6gvBNDguo/lSGqvY00CoMwZ/cPmiqfsPk8ZQ2T 7MGewLuVhxZsRD+cqqLegy6SEp28VDyA45O/2nKNUA9lVxqlG3zx8Q+gRZbnz0asIP15 xv0KsUrnmjB9CRaJrmQucSbtvPgjbCE00x0+aOMFBbvQU1I2TwUoARzYAOBcGKiP29No jEt4QNvVQeLSvpZ7Fp2dhTpPbz5N+62k0XBFu0DC5wob2qyAIPQjjUtAcgdhorgIrPEV eZ9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=LTg0IolSuGC+cQ4huJKMoSvlwekDYMSgh3wZrtUuZiA=; b=IvLwaSAvLk6YBQ9PGDrAj/vZwyFxavo5TTiELUnx/3QdWv5LZYyQ9x/3xXj2QQvt/F UNkDj61AArgIqGSx5sNRvrG5/Rr+Ixgfq2rfXprUdXoiVhOqxgpj4g4Mv0WTwS8Idqn5 vWAYcNmo2cf1sbejW7en/O9XVmNj539I1pt3krNe+UpYFPsQA4L3+i92ncpPdCFS1L/G mKezjBQaR0v1C7dph6nhM/E+CkJJBkHMFwZcAUn34yXI493vb+eeJPfbwyUX+c6CWlDj aU7IoyJVeAINUwSzX4v7Rr7oUFZzH+0AlpTJpeSSTcgI0W3F/8XE7skjWfLv6MPxGTKr CriA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5314HBW7ixYHzlEBwpQZMqD81cFFBae4lfAws4LdrwoylroUPvvC 3fLrUJfifdd4QWoyM12fGnACt54SgU8KIg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyp/oq5+HK7HXYEg4bosN6ncyudOQE16vF7S9NnoFD/Y19P0fHyU51w1+TzVNvYH9VxayeswQ== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6910:: with SMTP id t16mr7999476wru.416.1621355483646; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. 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TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[47.43.26.132:from:127.0.2.255]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[74.130.26.206:received]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[TWC.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:47.43.26.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40294, ipnet:47.43.24.0/21, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:59:51 -0000 On 5/18/2021 2:26 AM, Daniel Dowse wrote: > On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:38:03 +0100 > Graham Perrin wrote: > >> [snip] >>>> You may want to try removing your font-config caches or any caches >>>> that use mesa in some fashion and trying again. >>> How do I remove font-config caches? >> [snap] > Hi, > > you can try > > fc-cache -rv Thanks, that did clear and rebuild the caches.  I didn't see any related to mesa or dri. My system still can't start X though.  I appreciate the help. 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To: K Lu Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fl6JJ6fFNz4mPv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=UWJeTfSs; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::629) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.27 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.968]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::629:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::629:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::629:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.994]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:58:41 -0000 On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:47 PM K Lu wrote: > And I'm more curious about the general question of "how can a non-root user create/start freebsd services" - Any suggestions :) Why would you like that? You can set services to start in /etc/rc.conf as root ans just have them running (with provided parameters). You can run your own network services on non-restricted ports (above 1024) as standard user. You can also use sudo to perform root actions as standard user. In general Unix always separates root (administrator tasks) from users (non administrative tasks). This is why "gaining root" as standard/restricted user is always the most interesting part ;-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 20:01:26 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41187656568 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 20:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ed1-x533.google.com (mail-ed1-x533.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::533]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fl6MS6M5tz4nY0 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 20:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ed1-x533.google.com with SMTP id r11so12619362edt.13 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=93x+kxNQ90WUygzRf4nL7j6Y1NUWmBgjzkrGuJESVzU=; b=HnyypK5xCto9CJspP63tpIW3Q7R6W8jTLVdy2JxtoJoVFQMr1aCdsKtPhIDdwEGHuP 3JxqoB1z207olM1Kl+rKbZwrOS4WJUu4qj1Lh+wYktkJgYmOIkORGft+F+Wh0v4V5rDD E945xbzFDuwKefXXRf4Pl/96YB/SAn73pEH7gHYsawISSoa/IsKOSMuu1mhpU+gyrbVZ NsbuEAq4PMz2qZccumf8JsnNWWIenOamMszNe6NBE+CTZgQiQMG4tv5/+0pjGHstxE2Q JBsnWxez/5DqD4W26juDiJmqAgrSRRntdsNntvEkWrnj/tR65jZxY40iIr83OmV4rr+g jmIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=93x+kxNQ90WUygzRf4nL7j6Y1NUWmBgjzkrGuJESVzU=; b=X4rITLYoiDGyJylwWJNRq1iTLMu2trfOF7O9c4hXoFVhVst73ZGFyYIDfUc4ufQtMU +LmkEqlKiPfJnnvPtmG6baAtx0/nFkx1VHYppNUlTgeH7MvuLNjJlEQaOErvFv18wDOM KObRjPL0i4anSrQnOTq236j45tTbpYLvihw7bimCuSCNGYHt+SJ6TQL4pM6vmciwkOf4 q9sTKMNYvvgw3380AUKU+xA6OxBieIykW9RY8Horx2bmESNf3fchRlO0DFhPQKYrq0Pl kSN3IwdYbSfAhWE5jGEPFdr/a11rcj5l/gnvtFgvlQu5948WqX/2ZQxg2bvIALjwGn/M lMyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320YI3TZjUWuZ4Gccy7QffDP0QHftk1RJ2FLGGTIpjTPCwQi2+H VOnpBsTS5Gf3+CVC/d91MOj5zmhoEzHPYfv4RhBokQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxopALfa2Sa6ag2jnSzogfHRLoTwjNQTr1hoWtZT9Mbq18b7mm1oYbc6lDh+kLUTaAcp9hdlwbMue9Byunxm50= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:111a:: with SMTP id u26mr8905858edv.260.1621368083557; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:01:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 22:01:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? To: K Lu Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fl6MS6M5tz4nY0 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=HnyypK5x; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::533) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.983]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::533:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::533:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::533:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.979]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 20:01:26 -0000 On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:58 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > In general Unix always separates root (administrator tasks) from users > (non administrative tasks). This is why "gaining root" as > standard/restricted user is always the most interesting part ;-) Clarification - any way for your user to perform root operations is also a good way for others to perform root actions - this is usually a serious security threat and you want avoid that :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 21:28:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC463657C62 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 21:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com (mail-ej1-x630.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::630]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fl8Hx62Wfz3hpH for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 21:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id s22so16595921ejv.12 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vTpdvJ5gOigjMANRigFzPl1mDcOkWD8HVeR0/fsgdbY=; b=QQJ+MPOtd5lbkXN6vVjuq2kl1rmRM97ZpAIyanliXDRAdNLVlZI3675hgeKxm9NaqB V7jK7ZeNnRd91UKccO4qN5rAp7J3JfdGSJzCTAnV0C/bBA1ekDyKQO4MmWty8ueq3xnj iwFZbtJsbm8NBKllB79SxPV4Sh5puibHoDzA0Awxnt3m47wxTZwV7oRkB/ggawXhJaCs jgAhZuqdUk/1fzvf9t2HiZQMghKEl8ruavU3mP8tvncXThf8u4jEjWeeevqyHB+hM9+7 C2870Fg5sQGE6Ca5/lubhq7tzySRIyysCHIvE9iOoSi1lRlDFD/HL0eF6d1TOZ032pe5 n1UQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vTpdvJ5gOigjMANRigFzPl1mDcOkWD8HVeR0/fsgdbY=; b=ewniiIiZbuvCMFswqqWafS5YO7peBeLvEcHfIsWiauaGxjUjeBHx99fmkI1mf8hUyW CzovPgP4j17dXy8sjKdQu5XQwerwK6R2/J31mFk2cstE/GE8LW4cII4MU8cKHpPCWE5M pFvAo5uOnqCOmH4UrFfTt0bM+mZ6wKsYy6XRJb3NLxBb+ySi9nJq349dPHwn0I23gXMk GutkDFMgTKX5/UIYLJkZVuep3sI0ZOpJ6tI6KAJ4kGatKjMgsrJ5Yj2tD34Cp53cpcDq R/PxQM/L8VSN/dW522mqZg//Xqvxj6tGBKw0gsM4RXlrqBdUgd6SFxGsgIAatgp853+g wIvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532B3AMPJWumjMyVufdQpxLFbpQ+WojYjUnNYrYgEv5Z47GmjvyY qFIOt44Xx663ZLXUzo9rvVJFOCJPtA4h4hBnEiBddA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzuL4XW6E3UoCYTVUmbdMKlPOiiJT1CXHAlki30nTm/6t5mNdrhwH9heHTjcIO+H5d6OQpqimNpoZtrYyL4w5k= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:a245:: with SMTP id bi5mr8456945ejb.316.1621373307897; Tue, 18 May 2021 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:28:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? To: K Lu Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fl8Hx62Wfz3hpH X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=QQJ+MPOt; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::630) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.28 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.984]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::630:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::630:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::630:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 21:28:30 -0000 On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:52 PM K Lu wrote: > Right, I don't want to change to root for those tasks. > > That's why I'm curious, if the user can define and start "per-user" > services. Not sure if I elaborate the use cases well :) > > Another option I can think of is using user cron jobs. Are there other options? Cron is good to run periodic tasks - every hour, day, week, month. You may want to put your local services into ~/.profile but that requires login for them to be launched. They would not launch at boot. You may set a system service to run as selected local user (i.e. vbox) so you can access and probably control them as selected user (i.e. manually kill, kill -HUP, start beyond system service). You may put some services or script into /etc/rc.d/local that would launch your local user services. You may provide a web interface to see status and provide enable/disable switch if you do not even want to login. Either way you would probably have to create a control (start/stop/status) scripts for your local services in your home directory (i.e. $HOME/.local/etc/rc.d/). They could be started with /etc/rc.d/local at boot or periodically controlled by cron - when not running start would take place, when running no action taken, when crashed they would start again. Cron will however execute them no matter if you like it or not, so either you edit your cron (crontab -e) or some additional enable/disable flag for a service would have to be part of your local configuration scripts. You may take a look at /etc/rc.d/local as an example :-) Good luck! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 22:33:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8118631230 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d20000bdcf57.800c33ad8c8c759c1437614cfa9973ca@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fl9lQ6dCwz4ZVr for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d20000bdcf57.800c33ad8c8c759c1437614cfa9973ca@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1621377235; x=1623969235; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xysyUgzaB3NU2oOm6rGj/N6MJsiB5PhRWQhSjHuf3ZM=; b=XckKHZZX6u1eDWa9iKutXRKnmd2PcL+/OuWBuMT+7JY2Yiyf45YgIcvoBwTfj63OKEfqZJh7cDxrpBW53KBVcBUuwRprpsZLIsoExRYDYQu+vS5c+bGspwsvAtcwrq1AvLA65UzAFPKMkBCdU4vQIG8oT/LC/B1imvnTKzM6Ers= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkMjAwMDBiZGNmNTcuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.189.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 18 May 2021 18:33:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 18 May 2021 18:33:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1lj8HT-000BJa-5a; Tue, 18 May 2021 23:33:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:33:38 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: K Lu , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? 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Not sure if I elaborate the use cases well :) > > > > Another option I can think of is using user cron jobs. Are there other > > options? > > Cron is good to run periodic tasks - every hour, day, week, month. Also @reboot which is ideal for services. > You may want to put your local services into ~/.profile but that > requires login for them to be launched. They would not launch at boot. They would also launch for every login. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 18 20:52:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0F1657616 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 20:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kludev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fl7Vq6ZbYz3Gpb for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kludev@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id z24so10826941ioj.7 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:52:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YBDHY3/RLmusKJmPCecUqMJWfUPs2i/Yprb509/EdPg=; b=UMbJqlqziRmW1zbDg3E6SgdHVlaRxFHsYXo9hPcScnghA1hYFrXyqBIOd0vSYLBnSb AVIxi9mOYZ5c0U4Uh5EeicAtNecZeLCfmgRfQB0hPEpKnHwa3wSA/iIbo2MIKUT84hbx J9CdxJqoXOI/v5tH3ovpXg8meZzX2v4wC4iM8iibe4/j7f64v7xMmq7+uiBUHj4AHSzi 8P+xUHS0TZK/ZI5PmgDwv0IQLOZCyqE8TRocZBKzoi6rjDw4WCAQZinimjXtg1rUbKWY PHU0Gia4MQg4IyzqMJp6gb/3VFQbtSRTKLvvCLaPdmrDVJrGgZCpnL7U1g0GyV7VCikI hOWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YBDHY3/RLmusKJmPCecUqMJWfUPs2i/Yprb509/EdPg=; b=Met+BIN8Wn85AQd6K6EzcbL75FIY+EjR0vtrqmDSqOmM7U3UjIUg2VnlgI21aVUDYf wY2mAbv0oMkX5PJnTNN32TY1G653c/zythhyr2CiUOSf7j+llRA+Q5MF54oCmp/LgQ4M LchhMFq6uxbVMNxF5z33GYRZy+Lk2UKqDxrq2OHC0OEVNlO+H/cgA5JzE9kGpDKfdS3G DstEOfI1eTt1LCwKRBUP2RJ0ZgxdYwR1EsGZ0P+44jSiS5TZZryLXhcWEFtDcKOjZyNY XpiuWzloh0mSALjKnaBFco18wa80j+v89Luaw1h5EXB/p1SKoszvM+TGbB5TBIVs33Xp x5KQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533b2JrokhQ2FyOIDZB+VgEGmQJte9qGQ5M+hKKJUZs0fuLvj6gX wfJ92vQXSrrqQ2Bi9TIx4xqt4ZnGJKgk6fk57kk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDVhKiGa9siTQZfwV4KXsvDwZM1LSoKEeQESJLeESueA3vs0Cbch7ytK3Gs3/IsvE4L05mw6AqFpbeIGiAMsI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:3146:: with SMTP id m6mr6139201ioy.158.1621371171011; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:52:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: K Lu Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 13:52:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fl7Vq6ZbYz3Gpb X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=UMbJqlqz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kludev@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kludev@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f:from:127.0.2.255]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:29:10 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 20:52:52 -0000 Right, I don't want to change to root for those tasks. Reason I want non-root user create/start services is because, the user may want to run a long running, daemonized program, eg, a FUSE process, which can reliably automatically start when the system starts. Or another example is, the user wants to run its own IRC bouncer, or IRC bot, etc. For all these scenarios, the tasks are highly personal, which don't suit running as root, and yet they require to be long running and non-interactive, which fits freebsd service well. That's why I'm curious, if the user can define and start "per-user" services. Not sure if I elaborate the use cases well :) Another option I can think of is using user cron jobs. Are there other options? Thanks! On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:01 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:58 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > In general Unix always separates root (administrator tasks) from users > > (non administrative tasks). This is why "gaining root" as > > standard/restricted user is always the most interesting part ;-) > > Clarification - any way for your user to perform root operations is > also a good way for others to perform root actions - this is usually a > serious security threat and you want avoid that :-) > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 19 06:06:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2036386F1 for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 06:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d20000c3ebd2.763526b66e9c192547d7409c74c394e3@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FlMn548Sbz4Xg2 for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 06:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d20000c3ebd2.763526b66e9c192547d7409c74c394e3@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1621404362; x=1623996362; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=LzvtFRMw5yu1iqcbicEdGjUWwxptApd5qQZDIU0WuAc=; b=JKUe/sL5mEw2+ithwlEpEQKWcdFrDYBdYOJFFe1+6lKMht0koLBs1ENAOQ+LuQZ4FrA4qdy9Wolb8DB8orxxvC44Mpu28waDD7W83ADpsbdNJEo9KDtbmTUscKilg4jx1Y3TS9iB3Ms+qcCLU6P864AKRQfHqltLxMEo0b1K4ew= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkMjAwMDBjM2ViZDIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 19 May 2021 02:05:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 19 May 2021 02:05:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ljFLA-000DA2-Mj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 07:05:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 07:05:56 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can non-root user create/start services? 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Are there other > options? User crontab entries with @reboot as the time, -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 19 06:12:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2988638B59 for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 06:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@kartoteka.ru) Received: from mx.kartoteka.ru (mx.kartoteka.ru [213.252.120.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "192.168.0.2", Issuer "192.168.0.2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FlMwG3Cf9z4Z81 for ; Wed, 19 May 2021 06:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@kartoteka.ru) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:12:10 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=92=D0=B8=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help, package update 403 Forbidden Reply-To: admin@kartoteka.ru Mail-Reply-To: admin@kartoteka.ru Message-ID: Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=9E=D0=9E=D0=9E_=C2=AB=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=BC?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8A_=D0=9A=D0=90=D0=A0?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=9E=D0=A2=D0=95=D0=9A=D0=90=C2=BB?= X-Rspamd-Server: 127.0.0.1 X-Rspamd-Scan-Time: 0.11 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FlMwG3Cf9z4Z81 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.69 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[admin@kartoteka.ru]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[213.252.120.118:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[kartoteka.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[kartoteka.ru,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5523, ipnet:213.252.64.0/18, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[kartoteka.ru:s=mail]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[admin]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[kartoteka.ru:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 May 2021 06:36:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 06:12:15 -0000 Good day, package update does not work pkg: [1]http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/latest/All/ - 403 Forbidden, this is normal? -- Vik References 1. http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/latest/All/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 20 19:52:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9C64762A for ; Thu, 20 May 2021 19:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [174.136.99.202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-384) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FmL4X4KK5z4s16 for ; Thu, 20 May 2021 19:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:19e:3088:41ba:2f0:4222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384 client-signature ECDSA (P-384) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FmL4T6zwSzVbf2 for ; Thu, 20 May 2021 15:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.11.2.100] (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.11.2.100]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FmL4S4xmQzHcFK for ; Thu, 20 May 2021 15:52:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Subject: Logger - core dump To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:52:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FmL4X4KK5z4s16 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51-02]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[mgm51.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:174.136.99.202]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[174.136.99.202:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2001:558:6017:19e:3088:41ba:2f0:4222:received] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 19:52:45 -0000 FreeBSD 13.0 amd64 logger has been doing a core dump multiple times a day... # lldb -c logger.core -- logger (lldb) target create "logger" --core "logger.core" Core file '/usr/local/var/opendnssec/signer/logger.core' (x86_64) was loaded. (lldb) thread backtrace all * thread #1, name = 'logger', stop reason = signal SIGABRT * frame #0: 0x00000008003902ea libc.so.7`__sys_thr_kill + 10 frame #1: 0x0000000800305064 libc.so.7`__raise + 52 frame #2: 0x00000008003b9f29 libc.so.7`abort + 73 frame #3: 0x00000008002e7f81 libc.so.7`__assert + 81 frame #4: 0x000000080024d954 libcasper.so.1`___lldb_unnamed_symbol3$$libcasper.so.1 + 436 frame #5: 0x000000080024d798 libcasper.so.1`zygote_init + 168 frame #6: 0x000000080024c3bb libcasper.so.1`casper_main_loop + 27 frame #7: 0x000000080024b8bf libcasper.so.1`cap_init + 175 frame #8: 0x0000000000203361 logger`___lldb_unnamed_symbol1$$logger + 1361 frame #9: 0x0000000000202c20 logger`___lldb_unnamed_symbol4$$logger + 256 (lldb) It occurs when the opendnssec signerd program calls a script (written for /bin/sh) after a zone has been signed. The script has calls to logger to track the status of various operations. It is during those calls that logger dumps core. This has started occurring since I upgraded from 12.2p6 to 13.0. Also during that upgrade, the opendnssec package went from 2.1.8 to 2.1.9. (I would have been happier if only one thing had changed, but can't change that now... :) ) I see the logger core dumps only when called by the opendsnsec signerd program, as described above. I do not know what to do next... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 22 01:32:38 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6936407B0 for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 01:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fn5ZF5JG2z4XGD for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 01:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com with SMTP id r8so29878423ybb.9 for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Hqd43ZiEnUINdxMEYy1dOkc6gskLmvZfHeqLcdNxePE=; b=vbFqIdL8dFiVvPcsfz00L5k3nUI+vys/aT+7HU/PqnBdGQJk6O8cxGPiL65M2JVFQk tI7gqGWYHB5gIvu8BHBDOGQG4pJtakkc+1g90EtziJvjtg10ZWOl0FTkJ8jsIihVYiO6 JG8sFBIzj+LPSRsHU2JqevesBFJXvIOtCvm3fRjCa64Q/MxOvK9AJoFNkuIuW7TRnfIn ma3wM3SMgOeYHgpCiYkuKTzUc7dDvtQNjPWqvjc0P6NE5GfRe//IuyU2gAb3LUSo356K Z5MpYHrzz7z2bt6ahKyWtWfMdgwYXI6qT7dy6zJmum1VbX+VuEF+cGQK93yeoWBwqQOs RX1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Hqd43ZiEnUINdxMEYy1dOkc6gskLmvZfHeqLcdNxePE=; b=Z+Wu6JQSrYrY5QrJLf7vnlGXkR+ew/rt/jkMMXuuKGQkKIl4bol0mWHrlKHXY/8eAT KW4okvOHH8/Gn6E/e8saxZBCcw/8/Zpii3pVr75Ab2yx2tSWaJUU7TQ+q/BSXWEnc+3T N1ZyqDx+BKKoZVJtTeK7xcrtr4OgWAEqyMVgMssCbCKzBo6xmZviellyF5gN0E5cz35P Zn4DwIPiY8gBYeDQG+c0yF/+E4/cAkUDOOelswhXkWQvEDf031ozRNpH7ZY668wWwuuO KpgACcShbdI++TbRN4QU/97n/V99Z85xNwPIA48ZSN/nhTnPJahqs7K5GJK+iLOB4gvE 3nfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533c9gVPktzdgM8FoPmkFBCbhYu+eUjycXTDoerWQQjTxy4+pYtX zZbfdYcXlCr+xIhDyba7uD2sC++c37wKDZUAekGm63gisqBzsA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxF3RHafX6r3i77SHU+sj3PJOnYa9Juha57RAPjn62wzccA1+Gn4Ns61/ALyVum80vP+uXrrbVnnkgWeEznhrs= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7507:: with SMTP id q7mr18448987ybc.27.1621647156442; Fri, 21 May 2021 18:32:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Aleksandr Miroslav Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 18:32:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: bsd make: intermediate target? (BSD equivalent of GNU's .INTERMEDIATE) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fn5ZF5JG2z4XGD X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=vbFqIdL8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of alexmiroslav@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=alexmiroslav@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 01:32:38 -0000 I'm looking for the FreeBSD make equivalent of the following GNU Makefile: all: foo foo: bar cp bar foo rm -f bar bar: echo foo > bar .INTERMEDIATE: bar Without that ".INTERMEDIATE: bar" line, GNU make would recreate bar every single time. With it, once foo is created, it is left alone, even if bar is deleted. Is there a way to do such a thing with FreeBSD make? The only way I can think of is to put it all under one target foo. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 22 08:31:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B49647C1E for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from p-impout005.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (p-impout005aa.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net [47.43.26.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FnGsY0xCBz4tfr for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.177.163]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id kN2Xl55K0c70ykN2XlSKEy; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:22 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=QYWjAuXv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=60a8c15a a=xqrt2BZAGHte7XHhrxJgbA==:117 a=xqrt2BZAGHte7XHhrxJgbA==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=HpEJnUlJZJkA:10 a=zWgZKoy31UIA:10 a=jrJ0xvU8winx91V-8wwA:9 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:52 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (and other FreeBSD lists) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfB/LRZpwg1D7bizqXqoybpi/o1BErkEx0pYztLzEqvmkpa321ZlU3CHLSg1wrAMJjvUswRCE+ilUARndDCpcCk8Gz72n52YHtrBXF1EtfFO+Wd2XPHGc HxeHVyhjupH67ZRVFAudG/CdsgHN19vEmStsWMO1xcqNQw3fWunhBuypg/p409nCjzS53PGFLFkdKQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FnGsY0xCBz4tfr X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mueller6722@twc.com designates 47.43.26.136 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mueller6722@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.21 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[96.28.177.163:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[47.43.26.136:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[47.43.26.136:from:127.0.2.255]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:47.43.26.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40294, ipnet:47.43.24.0/21, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:30 -0000 > Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the > mailing list. > Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this > message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your > information. > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 43 I have been getting messages on various FreeBSD lists and would like to know if others have been having problems like this. I want to see if the bug is with FreeBSD mailing-list servers or with my server. I seem to do OK with other lists I am on. Do other FreeBSD list members get this problem? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 22 08:35:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7036E647F93 for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaver@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FnGyW2Mrvz4vrq for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaver@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FnGyT4jNNzDqnR for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 01:35:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1621672545; bh=DwRQ0LUgl9Cmapd+UzAjp6HMHe8kwZ8NorygKP4R8hQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=dV8hchO6O9ct7zMi1uPLnTfy9LPfkEacfM1q12vIZZKg4BYMKiLBCik4AFQgjHZim pAR9OcC3uMN/txXDGS3SONf90rZTacn2JCfHRPbjkRzLpU3s64Uexm/2m1hfU9CSNT MiDIr6PJ7kxkXNUhNurSTErKnMK19zoBMNTJLj6Y= X-Riseup-User-ID: CE22515B6C6157D6AC82CC33F6FDA6F5391240FF3A71864E91BCC69BC7EE4C9E Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FnGyT37Sjz5vbQ for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 01:35:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 01:35:45 -0700 From: Weaver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (and other FreeBSD lists) In-Reply-To: mid:1 References: mid:1 Message-ID: <88da78ae16cdf4428835666065f22c20@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FnGyW2Mrvz4vrq X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=dV8hchO6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of weaver@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=weaver@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:35:48 -0000 On 22-05-2021 18:31, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the >> mailing list. > >> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this >> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your >> information. > >> Here is the list of the bounced messages: >> - 43 > > I have been getting messages on various FreeBSD lists and would like > to know if others have been having problems like this. > > I want to see if the bug is with FreeBSD mailing-list servers or with my server. > > I seem to do OK with other lists I am on. > > Do other FreeBSD list members get this problem? No problem here. -- 'The rich and powerful piss on us, and the media tell us it's raining'. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 22 08:39:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6C9647D6B for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from maybe.home.utahime.org (gate.home.utahime.org [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FnH334cnyz4xq3 for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 08:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by maybe.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F38AB35603 for ; Sat, 22 May 2021 17:39:33 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=utahime.org; s=maybe2019112701; t=1621672774; bh=1Dascyk1+gJbCOZXjIxLmZQLzXBhu2hN2Bt274jvfeQ=; h=Date:To:Subject:From; b=xV3mR6BBZVGpoW3WolEkptHBAaVtyuNQXqDaznFVQw9qsZ0G07iCU7Rmhv7HTetTx Wdvq2WKKQJVlRqZxXyVebPH0Al5uHTNuFd1ya7AYXIAoB+hh7VeHgt1c2yqn80KCqa L3WOeZWeCLRGqi8yAg3iVJCcns62NAZ+1j53O7tg6Oa7ksR1vnpy07bBV9xwOLtEZi Ls21K/kHpiEzsVvsovvsPsM3ksL0YgG9EM/P6bZt1Nrnx+iQBl2ANfhcvwO5EJ2oAY nRrgBIp7xPveGfgohFXkPqaUKaQSO25n4hjxPjQzOyOByO18hfb5uClBKsPHl26IxN KFs6DIgoON9ew== Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9D9C4B731; Sat, 22 May 2021 17:39:31 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 17:38:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20210522.173850.983604927754686335.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (and other FreeBSD lists) From: Yasuhiro Kimura X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 27.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FnH334cnyz4xq3 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=utahime.org header.s=maybe2019112701 header.b=xV3mR6BB; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[maybe.home.utahime.org]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[maybe.home.utahime.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[utahime.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[183.180.29.210:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[utahime.org:s=maybe2019112701]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[183.180.29.210:from:127.0.2.255]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:39:44 -0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (and other FreeBSD lists) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:31:52 +0000 > I have been getting messages on various FreeBSD lists and would like to know if others have been having problems like this. > > I want to see if the bug is with FreeBSD mailing-list servers or with my server. > > I seem to do OK with other lists I am on. > > Do other FreeBSD list members get this problem? > > Tom I also have been getting same massage. And in my case, it is because spamish message is sent to ML and spam filter on my mail server refuses to recieve it. --- Yasuhiro Kimura