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[88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o21sm4505362wmr.44.2021.05.23.02.30.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 May 2021 02:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: kld_list="drm", xf86-video-intel To: Matt K Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <68023ace-7338-5e39-28f9-22bf1ff78365@gmail.com> <849f51ec-86a9-ccd8-8bde-175c27b15270@gmail.com> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <4a3b86c6-7343-2fcd-15be-8cb5bf387468@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 10:30:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fnw796r2Xz3D0R X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=mzK55uO/; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::331 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.72 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::331:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.72)[-0.721]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::331:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::331:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 09:30:30 -0000 On 08/05/2021 20:46, Matt K wrote: > … Shouldn't your findings be mentioned in the handbook? By at least a > few words, such as: "if you have problems with > kld_list=radeonkms/i915kms, try kld_list=drm". By-the-book (the FreeBSD Handbook) is, I believe: * more for goodness that is consistent and explicable * less for trial-and-error that leads to goodness without explanation. > Apparently, there are some people with similar problems, so maybe > solving the problem preemptively by documenting it, is the way to go. > I don't know the protocol here, this is my first time contacting the > FreeBSD mailing list. Today it seems that a problem was avoided by _not_ installing xf86-video-intel, which describes as legacy. Matt, would you describe your hardware as legacy? Is your system still freeze-free _with_ xf86-video-intel?