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Date:      Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:32:32 -0600
From:      "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
To:        "Peter Giessel" <pgiessel@mac.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Message-ID:  <ef10de9a0701092032i5cec65bs5dfa81a2009a8ae0@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <5D85F408-0110-1000-948B-AE501311BEDA-Webmail-10020@mac.com>
References:  <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <ef10de9a0701091508k7f1775f7h4c2cdc8c7498e7fc@mail.gmail.com> <5D85F408-0110-1000-948B-AE501311BEDA-Webmail-10020@mac.com>

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On 1/9/07, Peter Giessel <pgiessel@mac.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 09, 2007, at 02:38PM, "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM
> >for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly:
>
> Why is another project's problems FreeBSD's problem?
> Xorg isn't even in the base system.
>

It's FreeBSD's problem because Xorg doesn't hard lock the system on
other systems.
It's FreeBSD's problem because other systems don't have these problems.
It's FreeBSD's problem because DRM/DRI is a part of the kernel.

> >2. Fix SATA RAID driver problems?
>
> If you buy a quality SATA Raid card, with quality support, this isn't an
> issue.  3ware regularly updates the drivers for their cards and
> regularly commits their updates back into the base system.  Buy
> a cheep card, get cheep support, buy a quality card, get quality
> support.
>

I agree that if you buy a cheap RAID card you get cheap support, which
is why I buy $800 SATA RAID cards. I'm primarily talking about on
motherboard RAID 1 solutions. Native SATA RAID 1 support in FreeBSD is
in such disarray I not sure where to begin. How about reading and
writing metadata and failing gracefully, without a system panic, when
a drive momentary doesn't respond to commands. inband rebuilding after
a failure would be nice as well... I'm tired of fucking around with
this shit.



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