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Date:      Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:04:37 -0000
From:      Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>
To:        Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles freebsd-tips
Message-ID:  <20050118105959.GB75426@myrddin.originative.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20050118083524.GL79181@wantadilla.lemis.com>
References:  <200501171006.j0HA6CsU042545@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050117232829.GL52890@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20050118081237.GA9406@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050118083524.GL79181@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:05:24PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 at  9:12:37 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:58:29AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote..
> >> On Monday, 17 January 2005 at 10:06:12 +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >>> phk         2005-01-17 10:06:12 UTC
> >>>
> >>>   FreeBSD src repository
> >>>
> >>>   Modified files:
> >>>     games/fortune/datfiles freebsd-tips
> >>>   Log:
> >>>   Minor bit of advice.
> >>
> >> +%
> >> +If you receive email from the grim reaper, you can silence him and
> >> +keep your bit for another year with a token commit to a fortune(6)
> >> +or calendar(1) data file.
> >>
> >> I don't think this is appropriate.  Please back out.
> >
> > Appropriate or not, it is technically accurate..
> 
> Nobody disputed that.
> 
> The questions are:
> 
> 1.  Do we want to tell beginners how to circumvent the intentions of
>     the project?
> 2.  Do we want to tell committers how to circumvent the intentions of
>     the project?
> 
> The whole thing reeks of a nasty, snide comment.  Is this the
> impression that the FreeBSD project wants to cultivate?  There are
> enough trolls out there already.


I think the more pertinent point is that most users are not committers
and this is an in-joke that is totally meaningless outside of
developers. I agree as well that it gives a bad impression to those
outside the project who understand its meaning.

Have we become so insular as a project that we think that FreeBSD's
users are now just its developers?


-- 
Paul Richards




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