From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Oct 12 18:47:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B16A12132 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206BE1B71 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1D250A12131; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04842A12130 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C956A1B6F for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: by igkz10 with SMTP id z10so53162264igk.1 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=QeJqTMy3xsMnRShbb/qgntygLsokyyce+4pbncqwnZo=; b=jSBEA4kJ5qYccnqwxzBHAU8e6ojuHLee8HxWfGN2u1AeJnn169g1KMPMm3L6GGBhl/ oICS5dMaW9gOlWD390b4lc2ameBWIYsHASsrV0YDYcJnazTxBXdJbSbBxw2yjncjeB2y SEb2lwVQCGT9OpHhBV+FerJm084pONlW8K8nktX6WB/JXQL/aoyX4V26wybJtvr2I6Fz 8lFFzOAkZ2w/xb0fttg6orkmhmdHA+a6N18R70FiNU1t9xFCdXA4y9Rq8alqubClIYvv 2kuTXDEuxktJWkG/qCAAM23c94/x4lSFpNOxNRdRrHhjOZcrXDnggjYpypbaWUSVpluC W7vw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkgDNQo4RRF9Ts6KF3eF2i3i6/Xbx1RApBdYqoYS6/ZcMbSueGecPSTGLMfO6Qe8lk7iADt X-Received: by 10.50.30.101 with SMTP id r5mr14697990igh.35.1444675672873; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:280:4900:3700:749d:fbb4:f079:870c? ([2601:280:4900:3700:749d:fbb4:f079:870c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 189sm7388881ioe.40.2015.10.12.11.47.51 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh From: Warner Losh X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A9A54F8C-F801-4E94-900F-695E03DB3C40"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Subject: A quick poll Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:47:50 -0600 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:47:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A9A54F8C-F801-4E94-900F-695E03DB3C40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, The topic of including /usr/local in the paths for compilers, linkers, = etc has come up again. I=E2=80=99ve started a poll to judge sentiment in = the community about what the default policy of FreeBSD should be in this = regard. This topic has been much debated in the past. Those against it generally = believe that it pollutes the namespace to include /usr/local/* by = default. The defaults should only include what we include in the system = to avoid accidents. Those for it say that it has become standard in = other projects and that makes it easier for people porting software to = FreeBSD as well as making it easier for users to use stuff they=E2=80=99ve= installed from ports. I make no judgement over which one is =E2=80=9Ccorrect=E2=80=9D since I = can understand the argument on both sides. So I=E2=80=99ve created this poll https://reviews.freebsd.org/V6 to gage = opinion of the project and its users. If I did things right, the poll is = open to everybody. The poll will be used as data, but I make no promises = about what will happen with this data. The poll will sat for 2 weeks, = and I=E2=80=99ll publish the results here. Warner --Apple-Mail=_A9A54F8C-F801-4E94-900F-695E03DB3C40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWHABWAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAZs4QAJNDSjS2taRz/b0Kw/aAdKYC bQmB+N71aDGm6OFyHQZlHSbPyZWFA346RrqaKJagw+AMvcXZB258tMLW0NwTeko+ ZRTBmp5TlKOmboTHzwjueN67svK6IbtEcpWGHhkwFnjinQcaU3cCyOBzvAKme+fH Kcp3+lA6aoTtx0IeWYVGsRb9adz5OJVXUNNpncQTAhBPj5wTkp7Sihq4d0M8Z9YR LE1XnvbWCIivxDnTK/12GzgZQPyi5Oez5WBiuvZWTmx+f4opJ6eB7OISYkoavSAF Q9xaJpxbT8ZgbfJCt0rdBnOOaYwMqFNt191rbpBcSLRW+bjZaX3TTWNtFdZgapd5 Qm8OitggaUhnsBrgIcy/Php2JldG7aBQ6gCuPUokYx+UXYHO/H9NzD8T+PQwgJ44 iQJdI3kaeFnBlQzlXMOxF64h+ZZxE1quRFKcxHDq7jUeF7nySkxDTUeJ40DKZNUL SynEKaTWDIfanKwGPSiz9hG/rA79nqtA1xkbtUCypLqr+mNaY3rGUR9y5/xJar3K ofPrKMsFsltWNGC+MR9EupqgzMmaYkPszYLB2+ckpFba74h1y5j4R1DKAYtclbKe vvIG1gJJg7bTI277Akp84zD3QBePrnDlJ6GpMev05z30zW9Cl2D1fVcDW5oi0upC UOGH5GlN8oG8ThBi4P01 =cuFM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_A9A54F8C-F801-4E94-900F-695E03DB3C40--