From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 23 15:43:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 931) id C0E9D37B401; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:43:50 -0700 From: Juli Mallett To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brooks Davis , Steven Ames , Andrew Mishchenko , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request: remove ssh1 fallback Message-ID: <20021023154350.A97759@FreeBSD.org> References: <20021023155753.GB7503@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <004401c27aad$740a5400$33d90c42@officescape.net> <20021023161643.GA7813@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20021023143917.GA3222@driftin.net> <3DB6F2E1.799FF6F7@mindspring.com> <009001c27ac8$af6d77f0$33d90c42@officescape.net> <20021023123349.A9132@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3DB6FF07.5DAC9CCB@mindspring.com> <20021023131051.A21930@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3DB722CA.2A6E6482@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DB722CA.2A6E6482@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:29:30PM -0700 Organisation: The FreeBSD Project X-Alternate-Addresses: , , , , X-Towel: Yes X-LiveJournal: flata, jmallett X-Negacore: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * De: Terry Lambert [ Data: 2002-10-23 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Request: remove ssh1 fallback ] > [snipped] You're essentially arguing that upgrade should not change anything, but somehow that moving old stuff out of the way should be done? How is it exactly that you propose we take care of the include namespace breakage that GCC has introduced in an automated way, without possibly doing the wrong thing? If we're going to account for people modding their system then we have to leave it up to them, and the people who don't mod even, really, their rc.conf, to nuke the includes stuff. Besides, upgrading a production system in-place is almost never worth the effort it entails, on any system. Version skew, security issues, etc., all make this a less-than-enjoyable option. If you want specifics, I'll be glad to elaborate, but you don't have to be Terr^W^H Kreskin to figure it out. juli. -- Juli Mallett | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message