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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:35:58 +0100
From:      Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>
To:        Craig Butler <craig001@lerwick.hopto.org>, cperciva@freebsd.org
Cc:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, kensmith@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, Ken Smith <kensmith@buffalo.edu>, FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd-update(8) under sparc64? Why is it not available?
Message-ID:  <20100325233558.GI20888@alchemy.franken.de>
In-Reply-To: <1269526260.2007.3.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>
References:  <4BA9C0AC.3080801@wooh.hu> <20100324075709.GC13561@lonesome.com> <20100324223809.GA34342@alchemy.franken.de> <4BAB4AB9.2090908@buffalo.edu> <1269526260.2007.3.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:11:00PM +0000, Craig Butler wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 07:36 -0400, Ken Smith wrote:
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> > On 3/24/10 6:38 PM, Marius Strobl wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:57:09AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > >> You're the first one to ask in a while.  Since our userbase is small,
> > >> and developer time is limited, we've never set it up.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > The last time this topic came up IMO there was quite some
> > > interest in getting this running but the showstopper was that
> > > cperciva@ said that a requirement for any platform supported
> > > by freebsd-update(8) would be that the build server is able
> > > to run buildworld in 1 hour at most (unfortunately I currently
> > > just can't find that email). My 4x1.5GHz V440 I originally
> > > intended for this purpose unfortunately still takes 72 minutes
> > > last time I checked. I suspect a 8x1.2GHz V880 would be able
> > > to meet this requirement but I simply can't afford the housing
> > > for such a beast.
> > 
> > I have none that are faster than 900MHz processors, and the
> > one with the most processors in it is 6x750MHz.
> > 
> > > Ken, did the V880s at your university become available as
> > > intended some time ago?
> > 
> > At the moment there are two - one being used by portmgr@
> > for package builds which is the 6x750MHz machine.  The
> > other I do the monthly snapshots and release builds on,
> > it's 4x900MHz.  This was its performance on the world
> > built of 7.3-RELEASE:
> > 
> > >>> World build started on Sat Mar 20 23:34:54 EDT 2010
> > >>> World build completed on Sun Mar 21 00:50:58 EDT 2010
> > 
> 
> Can we bend the rules a little ?? Who set the requirement of an hour ?
> freebsd-update might be a good thing to have..
> 

IIRC it was Colin who once mentioned that this was decided
by the Security Officers in order to be able to react to
high impact security issues affecting multiple branches in
a timely manner should the need ever arise. In any case
he should be the right person to talk to about this so I
CC'ed him.

Marius




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