Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200 From: Dan Lukes <dan@obluda.cz> To: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> Cc: freebsd security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, security-officer@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon Message-ID: <452DF218.3090902@obluda.cz> In-Reply-To: <p06240800c15328312263@[128.113.24.47]> References: <451F6E8E.8020301@freebsd.org> <20061011102106.GY1594@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <20061011151458.L97038@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <20061011083021.C2780@treehorn.dfmm.org> <p06230910c152cf2743ce@[128.113.24.47]> <452D7351.6050804@obluda.cz> <p06240800c15328312263@[128.113.24.47]>
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Garance A Drosihn napsal/wrote, On 10/12/06 04:09: > Your 4.x system is not doing to die when we EOL 4.x. We're only > This is an open-source project. If it really is as easy to support > 4.x with security fixes as you think it is, then "you" (all of you Yes, I'm ready to self-support the 4.x for me. In the fact, the problem is not in system, the problem is in ports, but I used few ports only, so it's acceptable. But, maybe for my poor knowledge of english, you misunderstand the point of my think. The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I speaked about performance in some situation and believe in it's stability. It has been serie of decisions of commiters and release team that create current situation and all I say is, the resulting situation is not good because we must drop product when worse replacement available only. > who depend on a 4.x system) should be able to do that work without > help from "us" (the people running AMD64, ARM, PowerPC, Sparc64, > or even just recent i386 hardware which is not supported by 4.x). I fully understand it. But' I'm not sure if there is sufficient amount of users of those new platform in the community. I sayd the commiters prefer to work on new toys over maintaining the previous code (including it's own). I understant the working on new toys is more interesting work than debugging code with not so exact PR in hand only. Despite of it, I respect the sovereighty of an commiter to decide what he want to work on. May be - the project need to adopt commiters of another sort - those who are ready to review old code, repairing bug and polishing. Well - it's off-topic here. I sayd the current situation (which has no good solution) is result of recent decision. > I don't want to sound unsympathetic here, because up until just > six months ago I was also depending on security fixes for 4.x. > But after having two of my personal PC's fried (due to a broken > air-conditioner), I have now moved on. I'm also preparing to transition, but it's first time I'm changing better version and thinking I'm upgrading to worse system than previous .... Despite of anything I sayd, we should thank for the whole team for it's work. I'm sure anybody do all he can. Dan -- Dan Lukes SISAL MFF UK AKA: dan@obluda.cz, dan@freebsd.cz,dan@kolej.mff.cuni.cz
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