Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:39:11 -0700 (MST) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: ivoras@gmail.com Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r184691 - head/sys/compat/linprocfs Message-ID: <20081105.163911.420518480.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730811051526p3a978848uf904a149cb81fbce@mail.gmail.com> References: <200811051508.mA5F89XD030040@svn.freebsd.org> <20081105.150108.1649771743.imp@bsdimp.com> <9bbcef730811051526p3a978848uf904a149cb81fbce@mail.gmail.com>
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"Ivan Voras" <ivoras@gmail.com> writes:
: 2008/11/5 M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>:
: > In message: <200811051508.mA5F89XD030040@svn.freebsd.org>
: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: > : utf-8
: >
: > Is there some reason to prefer utf-8 over the 8-bit iso character set
: > we were using?
:
: Reason? You mean you actually *like* 8-bit code pages in the first place? :)
Liked? Not necessarily. Understood: yes. Just didn't have a clue
why the change.
: As a person from a country that has during its history decided it
: really needs 3-4 dots and dashes in its alphabet that make it (the
: alphabet) not representable in ASCII, and who has had Many Fun Days
: converting between various 8-bit code pages, ISO standard or not, and
: especially with deducing which code page is actually being used as all
: bytes are created equal (and Microsoft just *had* to tweak two letters
: from iso8859-2 into Latin2), I welcome UTF-8 with a warm room, a beer,
: peanuts and a backrub.
Hmmmm. peanuts....
: UTF-8 (as opposed to old 8-bit code pages which need to die as soon as
: possible and UTF-16 which got itself messed up with endianess) in
: unambiguous. A sequence of proper UTF-8 bytes (and UTF-8 has a
: structure so not every random collection of bytes with the 8th bit set
: is proper UTF-8) can always be linked to the same letter.
:
: This is why there's such a big push to get systems to properly support
: UTF-8. FreeBSD had a SoC project this year that was supposed to
: properly implement Unicode collations (and thus collation of UTF-8
: strings) but it looks dead or in a dormant state right now (though I
: didn't follow it attentively).
That makes sense.
Warner
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