From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 12:47:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D60AEECC for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C9782663 for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n15so2442876wiw.2 for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=645ne/UwGI2vs7g2rbEg22unSbGe/d7erdfsgvJubLM=; b=LQ+U3z2A0VVJAmJluuWjdWvdvQ8NPD0NOmtxtGhcB9auMspRutAILYhJk7sGGtG8i/ LUmONg8g0CS4tIF8Y7aROhXFAktln8iy1FC3p+REJ+cO57Rg2R26IML0cQOzjo18TVFZ LdSI5JGphkcEujc2YUXMsxFAxkayCmQUGQMVNxke4/qT3rBZ1F9KvM9PNG5fAnuT4UKW Iqatci9vfxkvuLTq/rBthEis2cWzInqBBwJQHdZq0iPyXOCW2Tg90daYbVA5VrJUOsP0 Pcz6drFNopuUsXbqMgF+L5JMX+pLn4H/XwVzoD8yFyXTd467123BLozU2pfEdpkcRLCs lo+g== X-Received: by 10.194.82.9 with SMTP id e9mr31299958wjy.45.1401540442618; Sat, 31 May 2014 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (2e40c57b.skybroadband.com. [46.64.197.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l9sm14538551wic.21.2014.05.31.05.47.21 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 31 May 2014 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 13:47:18 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please configure this list to subscriber-only, was contact your bank immediately Message-ID: <20140531134718.2ca133b7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140529175530.9492.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20140529144617.6271902f@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140529175530.9492.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 12:47:24 -0000 On 29 May 2014 17:55:30 -0000 John Levine wrote: > >> It=92s really becoming a PITA to stay on the list. > > > >It is really trivial to filter out. I use a separate address for > >lists and filter anything that lacks either an appropriate List-Id > >or an appropriate domain in a References header. The in-list spam is > >negligible. >=20 > Today there seems to be as much spam as real mail, and more meta-spam > than either. >=20 > Every other list I'm on limits posting to subscribers which stops the > spam dead. Nearly all the spam is just blasted out at random and the > list's address happens to be one of the million targets. It's very > rare in my experience for a spammer to go to the effort of signing up > for a list to spam through it. Have you checked the received headers to determine whether it's genuinely in-list? I'm only seeing a small amount of in-list spam in questions, comparable to the ports and chat lists which I think do require subscription.