From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 22:03:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F4106564A for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260BE8FC1D for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.134]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2008 15:03:14 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=Cu5SfzTEizBql84Im4IA:9 a=yXwCmx1hMndzIMGWFulMzs0-2rUA:4 a=D02SvSX6Ox4A:10 a=hMM2GHGroxMA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd2ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2008 15:03:14 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690E61701E for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:03:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:03:13 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081211140313.7ec2cd0d@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20081211202935.X1372@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <11167f520812070853i3b6fa6dei6e5c71669416470@mail.gmail.com> <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207193517.GA20905@laverenz.de> <20081207121431.5dcb37f9@gom.home> <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081211103742.21621a6d@gom.home> <20081211202935.X1372@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:03:15 -0000 On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:30:32 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > for whom? ;) it's just overadvertised nothing more, > ya well i'm not trying to do their advertising :D :D i merely copied it from their page. we did use openbsd for 1 yr for our servers and it was ok though some of the default security was irritating (for us). their elist wasn't nearly as good as this one and had some rather perpetually-angry-at-each-other people on it though there was one fantastic guy (nick holland) who was really knowledgeable and helpful to everyone. the real problem we had with openbsd was that the email system became unstable after doing the upgrades to the next version using their recommended upgrade process. in fact, the recommended upgrade process didn't work on when we tried to go to 4.1 for some of the software, which is really pretty weird. openbsd wants you to upgrade. what was surprising and refreshing here was to hear more than one person (and i think you were one of them), say why upgrade if the system is doing the job you want it to. so i'm not upgrading our servers because everything is working absolutely beautifully! > having no > adventage over FreeBSD in any point. > well i thought the 3.9 fish was kinda cute, but beastie is still much better! -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's