From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 11 01:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CB416A420 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00007441D6 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:19:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so1038480wra for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:19:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l+WJsdbJyS0iQRo628w6aYCQkZkT6bDQcaAAR4CvFlazvJKUpp/tYeCeDbHvtdGeL1IeiQxgwZn1269TOd0zsEVLL9eB7HY74dXjWO//gcwUU97SaLExtuNFAHRV5NdxiiZ/u4K9pcvw5+Zzp09le2r1PWTSaoxVt+oVBsvER6k= Received: by 10.54.117.8 with SMTP id p8mr1482074wrc; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.122.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0603101719g5db4f47cs@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:19:54 +0000 From: Chris To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20060310020722.GB919@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0603090943qdcc1128u@mail.gmail.com> <20060309180651.GA94019@xor.obsecurity.org> <3aaaa3a0603091750r67188696w@mail.gmail.com> <20060310020722.GB919@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libthr + libtool bump + mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:22:17 -0000 On 10/03/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:50:36AM +0000, Chris wrote: > > On 09/03/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 05:43:10PM +0000, Chris wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I recently noticed after the libtool bump using libthr on 5.3 and 5= .4 > > > > > > What does libtool have to do with it? > > > > > > > release servers for mysql causes the process to hang when a kill is > > > > issued and become unkillable even with -9 and the only way to recov= er > > > > is reboot the server. The problem is not on 6.0 and 5.4-STABLE. S= o > > > > this would suggest to me libthr is updated in the 5.x branch. > > > > > > Probably was. > > > > > > > Will libthr in 5.5 be the same as in 6.0 or does the 6.x version st= ill > > > > have advantages? > > > > > > In general 6.x has too many bug fixes to mention, so chances are it's > > > also good on 6.x. > > > > > > > Should I contact the mysql port maintainer and ask him to add a > > > > warning to the port concerning libthr on 5.4 release and older? > > > > > > You can ask, but the port maintainer does not have to support running > > > on older releases. > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > Ok thanks 5.3 and 5.4 are "old" but not EOL they are still supported I > > thought. > > Old releases sometimes have extended support for security fixes only, > but for ports it's only "most recent release". So 5.4 is still > technically supported by ports, but that will change in a week or two > when 5.5 is released. > > > I dont like upgrading major version every 6-12 months and I > > am sure there are others as well. > > > > So if I have this correct everytime a new major version hits release > > ports may stop working for live release branches and it doesnt matter? > > > > For example some may take the view that 6.x isnt mature enough to use > > until 6.2 or 6.3, > > I'm not responsible for the opinions of others :-) > > If you don't like the support situation, consider that you're not > paying for it anyway, so if you want more support than the thousands > of man-hours donated to you for free by the freebsd volunteers, you > can pay someone for it to your level of comfort. > > Kris > > I understand but it is frustrating that 6.x gets plugged a lot tho when the person mentions they are using 5.x, I hope you understand that when freebsd is used on a mission critical server then it is good to only upgrade when necessary which is usually just for security updates and also to wait for a 2nd or 3rd revision of the new major version as to help avoid teething problems. In that manner I am glad older versions are supported for security patches for a while after release. I wasnt aware ports removed support right away tho so thank you for clarifying that for me. what does confuse me now and I am sure others, you have a situation where only the most recent release is supported and 6.1 is been released shortly before 5.5 if things goto schedule, will both these releases be treated as supported by the ports tree? and why is 5.5 been released at all if people should be upgrading to 6.x to remain supported? Chris