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Date:      Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:45:40 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: OT: Dealing with a hosting company with it's head up it's rear end
Message-ID:  <0CC7D096-2F2D-4B54-8C0C-2A2AE1E7FD98@kicp.uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20200815110742.29dd76ce@scorpio.seibercom.net>
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> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote:
>=20
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:37:29 -0400, Aryeh Friedman stated:
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:01 AM Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:59:52 -0400, Aryeh Friedman stated: =20
>>>> Says someone who refuses to help fix a bug because some hardware
>>>> vendor refuses to give them free equipment, even though the bug
>>>> affects equipment you already have. =20
>>>=20
>>> Your analysis is incorrect. I did in fact, rectify the problem.
>>> Coming to the realization that it would cost me both time and money,
>>> I choose a different path. Realizing that I could easily minimise
>>> the situation with a minimum of effort, I simply changed to an OS
>>> that did not suffer from the affliction and offered me more leeway
>>> in completing my job requirements.
>>>=20
>>=20
>> So if you switched OS's, go troll some other list instead of one made
>> up of people who actually care enough about the tools they use to fix
>> the ones that are almost perfect instead of saying my hammer's handle
>> has a little dent in it thus I am going to burn it (making a lot of
>> noise about how evil the hammer is) and use a screwdriver handle to
>> bang a nail in.
>=20
> Your insistent whinny is directed at your hosting company, yet you
> continue to post on a forum that pertains primarily to an OS. Your
> supposed problem would be better directed at a forum dedicated to
> resolving you problems, imaginary or not.
>=20
> There are literally hundreds of sites that pertain to hosting
> available. You might want to try this one:
> https://forums.hostsearch.com/
>=20
>>> There is an old saying, "Piss poor planning on your part, does not
>>> constitute an emergency on my part." The simple fact that you failed
>>> to anticipate potential problems, either now or at some future date,
>>> is solely your fault. =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Maybe it is because I am planning that I am bringing the issues up
>> before they become actual issues (or I guess you can't be bothered to
>> read the whole thread to see that).
>=20
> The issue(s), at least according to you, have already bite you in the
> ass. For the record, I have read all of the thread, including your 18
> and counting posts to that thread, all saying or relating to the same
> supposed issue, your inability to get a hosting company to kiss your
> ass. Poor Aryeh. "Aryeh" good, everyone else bad.
>=20
>> Very few problems cannot be cured with a minimum of effort.
>>> Unfortunately, all to many insist and cursing that darn night rather
>>> than lighting a small candle.
>>>=20
>> You just don't read, do you?  If you did you would see that is =
exactly
>> what I was doing -- attempting to figure out where effort was worth =
it
>> (and which ones were unfixable but due to external stuff I am still
>> stuck with and have no option but to deal with them anyways).   Not
>> taking the lazy way out and saying my hammer sucks and burning it.
>> Burning hammers causes more problems than it solves usually (like the
>> fire spreading to your entire workshop).  Besides nails tend to break
>> screwdriver handles when used as hammers.
>=20
> You are really dense, Your options are quite clearly laid out.=20
>=20
> 1) Negotiate with the company.
>   a) Since that has failed, move onto #2
> 2) Bring legal action
>   a) So far you have failed to do that which indicates that either you
>   have no legal basis for the action or you fear a counter suit that
>   might implement you as culpable in some manner.
> 3) Failing to implement #2, move to a new hosting company that is
>   either willing to implement your requirements of already embellishes
>   them.
>=20
> As any real mechanic knows, if you don't have the tools you need on
> hand, whether from poor planning or whatever, you utilise the tools =
you
> do have on hand. A nail "may" break a screwdrivers handle, but if that
> nail saves a ship from shrinking, do you really think it is not worth
> it? Well, you might. I can just envision you sitting on the deck,
> crying like a wimp because you don't have a hammer to drive in the =
nail
> to seal the latch while the water flows in sinking your ship,
> all-the-while a screwdriver lays unused in your tool belt.
>=20

I agree with you, Jerry, and Rod. Basically, just out of human decency =
when one asks for help one is supposed to accept (and use or dismiss) =
suggestions, not bite back at everyone who payed an effort attempting to =
help. But hey, we all know several names on the list who are different, =
don=E2=80=99t we?

Valeri

> --=20
> Jerry
>=20




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