From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Sun Mar 28 19:35:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AE85AC016 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soren.schmidt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F7mC243Jkz3H54 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soren.schmidt@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id b9so10690909wrt.8 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 12:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=Tg+6uFaHDtseCGVRewXY0rhL/Vc7+Ro+EQ9VuP/HiKc=; b=BEnPO2aqfb9Op8wfRE5GgQUw8vDnJl8XCZDb5Ays60jQ5LdpC96HuKY7qtx8BRhBef h9b0NnervPSmIaLZEqxyskAHf6uCGf+VA75Oo2K96mpZJc4XmUPqC99F+41mU79g/kxF 5lydRs0g73TU2rIt9CWRnS9XRL7iromdoo3R7rgqLmXeJGl24EyUxzMSqMvhWSzA/K1H fyRG/vRF90vDRp3ab5UtG/WRDOwzjEK1tGEHjY5yrvMkUwXhCCn2Yr3iwObHbox+lx4G KZSpod4NosuMTu56GCSnR5rES3Jw38h3ltlNPaIvTsFfEjCHlDoGufqHCPJrO342JdC/ vvrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=Tg+6uFaHDtseCGVRewXY0rhL/Vc7+Ro+EQ9VuP/HiKc=; b=tPb0lHZD/jicNL8AXxdh46O6gWQbgfsRVAp/irthzhSd1JEv4E/KC1bdm0hDo9a+mU F2hLfirnWtmQ6TmD+/yjCQZkLPG2wDZBztvt6W7sDAyqTCXkrve1GvEthbppIBeI6zuW /Idi79Ifgy7WYYwNsStESAmPKRUJrKWicC7A5at5r0lK8a4HAzDDHsquztuNls5OgErO F1nm81gSd50q9uoJwBYuKkWTKM113U9JlA2freBfy/UhGixMsNRVcHDmqAJV+bYaWqZP Unc3eV2aUfrFh8oGzWIU7viRaBc/M7tHWC3sc/4BTc5lpQPLnRIJNPuvoUTPuUn8vQL3 Vbnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531nC8oWdwjySiuyMHj9HEl/Fplg9Xcaym4tG1yg930K7ahKaD/O Wx9oha5eZMdBK2Iglhuzd6TccXzDyJk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWAFAtDyGBavD1d989+bB8ygoRdpHYvP5OAtPAlEnHGARPIhhsZXmqW7or4nVOD1eGnhlT9A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:b355:: with SMTP id k21mr25432534wrd.156.1616960125307; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac.deepcore.dk ([85.27.186.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm26196236wrx.86.2021.03.28.12.35.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Mar 2021 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Schmidt?= Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64? Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 21:35:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <265dbf9c33f4ce09c702c9d7fae93c9b@pyret.net> Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org To: Daniel Engberg References: <7b284f7718556f1cf0a7a205c98db6b1@pyret.net> <8F8F3491-3E1F-45C8-BF61-09F7557F48A5@googlemail.com> <265dbf9c33f4ce09c702c9d7fae93c9b@pyret.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F7mC243Jkz3H54 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BEnPO2aq; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sorenschmidt@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::432 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sorenschmidt@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::432:from]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::432:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::432:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[googlemail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:35:27 -0000 On 28 Mar 2021, at 21.23, Daniel Engberg = wrote: > ESD can kill any type of hardware, there are multiple reasons why you = shouldn't play around with live hardware and powered off for that matter = without any protection regarding ESD. Pretty much all hardware comes = with clear instructions and warnings about it. Without getting too = technical I say that I have a 3A PSU the runs fine at least for me = however quality of PSUs is a different story. It's a RockPro64 paired = with a dual port PCIe NIC however I would recommend higher rated one if = you plan to attach non external powered USB devices. >=20 > We only support mainline u-boot, if you're using forks and/or patched = versions you're kinda "on your own" and there's no (to my knowledge) = support (yet) upstream for booting off NVME or SATA/AHCI. Well, at least u-boot2021.01 has all the needed support to boot a = rockpro64 or pinebookpro from nvme/sata/usb/sd/mmc/net. If you put u-boot into the SPI-flash it will boot from any of the above = media. -- S=C3=B8ren Schmidt sos@deepcore.dk / sos@freebsd.org "So much code to hack, so little time"