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Date:      Thu, 15 May 2014 21:26:16 +0000
From:      "Brandstaetter, Klaus" <kb@hob.de>
To:        'Marcel Moolenaar' <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "ia64@freebsd.org" <ia64@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: [ia64] End of life...
Message-ID:  <E301C27520DD0D4F886945897F66A9EE28C20097@HOBEX21.hob.de>
In-Reply-To: <8DB8FBB4-A167-4C20-BC28-583247202EF4@xcllnt.net>
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Hallo

my name is Klaus Brandst=E4tter,
and I'm the CEO of HOB, a medium-sized German software company.

We have a number of projects based on FreeBSD - x86 and IPF.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org=
] On Behalf Of Marcel Moolenaar
Sent: Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2014 22:12
To: ia64@freebsd.org
Subject: [ia64] End of life...

Executive summary:
Support for ia64 will be removed from FreeBSD-current in the near future wh=
ich means that FreeBSD-10 is the last release of FreeBSD that supports ia64=
.

All,

With the FreeBSD project committed to replace GCC with LLVM/clang on the on=
e hand and GDB with LLDB on the other, development tools that are fundament=
al in supporting ia64 will disappear. While support for
ia64 in FreeBSD could be extended by depending on external developer tools =
to build and develop ia64, it's clear that the gap between CPU architecture=
s natively supported by FreeBSD and ia64 is widening to a point where it's =
extremely unlikely that ia64 will ever be a fully supported architecture.

The limited amount of active development that ia64 needed to not rot away h=
as made it possible for ia64 to remain for as long as it did.
This is to the credit of FreeBSD's architecture and cleanliness. But the am=
ount of time that I personally could spent on ia64 has always been on the l=
ow end and because of this many core bugs took a very long time to fix and =
some are still not fixed to date. Me taking a slight detour to port FreeBSD=
 to SGI's Altix 350 & 450 did not help on that front although I found it ve=
ry educational.

Truth be told -- the learning curve and the enjoyment of working on
ia64 has sloped off for me and the amount of hard work that the CPU archite=
cture demands is only increasing. It's time for me to stop trying and think=
 of other things to spent my free time on. Not that I have to think long or=
 hard -- or at all for that matter ;-) Not only do I not have any free time=
, I already have plenty of things I can do.

So, my last task is to round things up, turn the lights off and close the d=
oor behind me.

For those still running FreeBSD/ia64: thank you!

--
Marcel Moolenaar
marcel@xcllnt.net



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