Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:16:45 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> To: Daniel Blankensteiner <db@traceroute.dk> Cc: Matt.Smith@uconn.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Base system vs. Ports Message-ID: <20020528221645.GB53061@hades.hell.gr> In-Reply-To: <019901c20664$ea3540d0$6800a8c0@rafter> References: <OFF4CF09FF.852E8028-ON85256BC7.0055D419@groupware.uconn.edu> <019901c20664$ea3540d0$6800a8c0@rafter>
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On 2002-05-28 18:30, Daniel Blankensteiner wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Matt.Smith@uconn.edu> > > I would rather see the base system be very lean, and these components be > > installed simply from ports/packages. > > Well, FreeBSD is a server system so it is natural to have deamons > like ftpd and sshd, in the base system. But like you I wish for a > very small og secure base system, also meaning that NO services are > started by default. Grafical programs and other unnecessari > programs, should not be in the base system. AFAIK the freebsd team > is working on making the system more logical structured and pulling > the base og port system apart, so maybe this will result in a > smaller base system? Guys, not to sound like I'm advocating the devil here, or trying to get you away from FreeBSD. I'd love it if you used FreeBSD, and you found out that tweaking the system can result in a light-weight UNIX system, exactly the way you want it to be. But I've been using NetBSD for a while now, and I have to admit their i386 version has a truly light installation (if one doesn't install many packages or X11). It is very impressive to see stuff like this: % df /netbsd Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a 891217 130417 716240 15% /netbsd Of course, with only 130 MB of space you should not expect anything graphical, or to have space for the sources. You'll need a bit more if you plan to recompile the system from source. If you only want this as a light-weight system that can be used for a UNIX workstation (that gives remote access to other UNIX machines), or as a tiny server that can work in limited space and serve your email, DNS, of even other more demanding services, it is my impression that NetBSD is a truly remarkable thing. Give it a try. After all, it's BSD too. I know I might be flamed for suggesting NetBSD on a FreeBSD list, but having used FreeBSD exclusively for the last few years, I must say that my recent attemps to install NetBSD and OpenBSD have convinced me that those other BSD camps do a wonderful job too. So put down the flame sticks, and don't start running after me with battle axes :-) - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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