Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:58:49 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: Is it time to retire the scanner ? Message-ID: <20161023185849.0e17cd7b68f775c2fcfe603b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20161023182504.176c7a95.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <VI1PR02MB0974121AA45CD8E1080F5AA6F6D70@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1610220812500.93978@wonkity.com> <VI1PR02MB0974D1AA6728FD0A2A90EC74F6D70@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1610221030240.687@wonkity.com> <CAOgwaMuSxp3_k6K14Q2m2yU0KLXLH5pNCQ=be-__YP8zDzeWQg@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR20MB1397AEFDF13334F33430761C80D70@CY4PR20MB1397.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <20161022224754.162d0870.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR20MB1397EBE3B58A71DC333E72F980D70@CY4PR20MB1397.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <20161023004100.33fc999a.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR20MB1397407568C90AD38138AAEB80D60@CY4PR20MB1397.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <20161023135334.d11fd376.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161023145846.5381df860d1410643eb845a0@sohara.org> <51209.69.209.224.207.1477234260.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20161023172801.4f143b32.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161023165749.bf7c84829910e947a7572260@sohara.org> <20161023182504.176c7a95.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:25:04 +0200 Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:57:49 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 17:28:01 +0200 > > Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 09:51:00 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, October 23, 2016 8:58 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:53:34 +0200 > > > > > Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On FreeBSD, getting that printer to work in CUPS requires no big > > > > >> efforts, you don't even need the PPD file. You even don't _need_ > > > > >> to use CUPS as you can print PS directly to the printer - no > > > > >> driver needed, only a printer spooler. And this hasn't changed > > > > >> in 10 years... > > > > > ` > > > > > Probably not in the previous 10 years too (well it's > > > > > almost 2017 and the LJ4000 came out in 1997), I know for sure > > > > > that you could spool PS to a Laserjet 4 with lpr/lpd under > > > > > FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 because I did just that. > > > > > > > > And to add to that, HP keeps making supplies for their this old > > > > printers. We do have HP LaserJet 4050 in our Department which was > > > > purchased around 2001 or 2002. Still works, HP still makes toners. > > > > Kudos HP! > > > > > > Even "worse": The toner cartridges are quite cheap. People usually > > > think I'm lying when I tell them my home printing costs are 30 Euro > > > every 3 years (this is 10 Euro per year, less than 1 Euro per month). > > > Try to beat _that_ with typical consumer ink cartridge costs... ;-) > > > > About the same as mine using oversized 'CIS' cartridges and bulk > > ink in my Brother inkjet (cheap A3 - hard to resist), but then we don't > > print much perhaps a ream or so per year. > > Some years ago, I met a HP Officejet printer with ink cartridges > (not combined with printing heads!) where you could easily (and > also quite cleanly!) refill the ink from big "bulk ink" bottles > with a set of syringes. Needless to say, it had a scanner with > sheet feeder, a fax, a built-in SD card reader and USB slot, a > color display - and it even was networked! That was the first Pretty close to the spec of my Brother - swapping A3 for fax, and bearing in mind that the refillable cartridges (also not attached to the heads) are a third party add on (cheap though). > time when I tought that there are ink printers which aren't crap > to rip off the customer. And it supported FreeBSD of course. :-) That's the downside with the Brother - I have a Centos userland running in a jail so that I can run a linux install of CUPS to host the Brother driver. In theory I could put the bits in place in a FreeBSD install of CUPS but last time I tried I spent a couple of days getting progressively more confused. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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