From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:31:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81E2106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78A38FC25 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R6GPSg002865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:16:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:31:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.157 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:34 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 17:02:05 n j wrote: > Linus Torvalds on KDE4... > > [quote] > > A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I > switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do > what I want it to do. But the whole "break everything" model is > painful for users and they can choose to use something else. > > I realise the reason for the 4.0 release, but I think they did it > badly. They did so many changes it was a half-baked release. It may > turn out to be the right decision in the end and I will re-try KDE, > but I suspect I'm not the only person they lost. I've seen it suggested that KDE4 is faster than KDE3. I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 - granted, my machine is not brand-new: it's a P4 1.8GHz with 512MB of RAM and an NVidia GeForce MX4000 (I mention the graphics card because the latest NVidia binary driver doesn't support it). KDE3.5 does what I want my window manager to do - keeps out of my way and works snappily enough that I don't notice it. I recently installed PCBSD7.02, which uses KDE4.1. It's unusable. For example, with only two applications running - the KBreakout game and the Psi Jabber/XMPP client - the game was unplayable because each time Psi received an incoming chat or event, the game froze for a second or two while KDE struggled to open the chat window. The claim that KDE4 is faster than KDE3 is frankly incredible to me. Jonathan