From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 15:48:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004AD106564A; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8948FC14; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so1945165yen.13 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qgubgwpQh55WERyAf1HaFUrEpJNtwtF74Jw2ezKUnSs=; b=VxgFbBEc2rXUBt/gwI2NtTUJKdHLixJVIS+IBv+c6bUUIZrqr817Y5boXMErfi26wo /3Cz4IV8d//KUY/I+O4u5byCb+gU4fKlMeJ8Ym2ZEzNv1Eg1J/16GXQlp0lpop0vX8U+ ZbouY0aPNiMCqT1sOAPL761zR5CLkCNh6XAu2jmj7WfL7iKS92qHNHc+yHAWKYgLAlTs q2Y904sNnArDT7CFL8SHVJftZzCIOBOo8+plVBQnUh8/52w74aN4HuJYqOTwv+dKd7FI r1+slraI++W7THMEsAqwS7E+g6T5Euuhc7dyUF/eWgRTjkUqZvxzTnaVjlgPGVBqSQz5 8UPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.80.129 with SMTP id v1mr413222ick.21.1340380101365; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120622152731.303450@gmx.com> References: <20120622152731.303450@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:23 -0000 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Dieter BSD wrote: >> Yes, technically there are still some that exist, for now. However, >> their death certificate is signed and they're so few that it's not >> worth mentioning. > > If you don't think NTSC is worth mentioning, why do you keep posting > the same incorrect statements over and over again? Your disagree that NTSC is out, soon including the very few exceptions that remain? You disagree that NTSC is not worth mentioning at this point? Well, to be fair, one of those is fact but the other is opinion, which everyone is welcome to -- differing or not. > NTSC is not a stream of bits. NTSC is analog. The tuner converts > the NTSC analog waveform into a raw stream of bits. This raw > stream of bits is too large to conviently store on disk, so it > needs to be compressed/encoded into mpeg or similar. Some > tuners include a hardware encoder, but many do not. Nope. > The cx88wiki URL above describes the cx88 software (in ports). > For tuners without a hardware encoder, raw video/audio is the only > thing you can get from the tuner when receiving NTSC. Nope. It seems you want to talk about things more along the lines of what's technically in the realm of possibility while I prefer sticking to real world scenario & application. Which, leaves us at an impasse....I guess. Cheers