From owner-freebsd-net Tue May 23 7:13:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC6037BB05 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 07:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA59407; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:13:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200005231413.KAA59407@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Wilbert de Graaf" Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, "Olaf Hoyer" X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: PPPoE standard? References: <4.1.20000521000029.00c86bd0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> <000a01bfc2d2$ae4d85a0$bcf0fea9@icsi.berkeley.edu> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 May 2000 20:14:28 PDT." <000a01bfc2d2$ae4d85a0$bcf0fea9@icsi.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:13:34 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi Olaf, > > > Is this standardized already in a RFC? > > Heard some opinions from some guys that this is not standardized yet... > > I's RFC 2516 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2516.txt) As one of the authors of this protocol, I'll also mention to be complete that this is an informational RFC, which has a different standing than a protocol that has gone through the entire IETF standardization process. At the time, we had a problem that needed to be solved, but wanted to esure that the solution was an open one. Much of the work was happening within the ADSL Forum (imagine the cantina scene from the original Star Wars movie, and you'll get a sense of what I thought of how well that body works). Since work done in the ADSL forum (e.g, documents) are only available to ADSL Forum members at $6K a year, we (e.g., UUNET along with Redback Networks) decided to publish it within the IETF, and then reference it in the ADSL Forum contribution we made. Essentially, it says "See RFC-2516 for how it works." The success of PPPOE in the marketplace doesn't seem to have been hurt any by the status of the RFC (for example, RADIUS was also an Informational RFC until very recently). It's been widely adopted by lots of folks. > > Anyone knows what OS is used in those "routers" for cable modems/DSL lines > > manufactured by DLink, Linksys etc.? > > You mean the router terminating this PPP ? I don't know the OS, but router > manufacturers like Cisco and Redback.support it. I've got one of the Linksys boxes, and they work pretty hard to hide what runs inside. (If you're not familiar with the Linksys box, it's a box with an Ethernet "uplink" to the Cable Modem or DSL box, a small router or NAT, and a 4 port ethernet switch on the "local network" side.) If I had to guess, I'd say it ran Linux since some of their other small boxes seem to run Linux. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message