From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 2 6:23: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B7F37B408 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 06:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15oPVi-000GcQ-00; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:22:58 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f92DMwb98425; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:22:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:22:57 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Paul Robinson Cc: Brad Knowles , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: code density vs readability Message-ID: <20011002142257.C98079@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010927141333.A44288@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20011002133112.B98079@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20011002135226.A33832@jake.akitanet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20011002135226.A33832@jake.akitanet.co.uk>; from paul@akita.co.uk on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:52:26PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: | On Oct 2, j mckitrick wrote: | | > I just came to a new conclusion. I think code formatting and personal | > style might be directly related to the editor preferred. This | | | | In that case, I must be a freak. I do about 90% of my code editing in vi and | ed, with mail editing (like now) in pico (backed onto mutt). I have to say, So i'll bet you don't have a lot of blank lines or unnecessary "*****" comment lines and fancy boxes. :-) When every keystroke counts, especially during editing itself, you would probably have a more parsimonious style. | it takes hard work, but the nature of my job means I end up doing a hell of | a lot of code editing on live, remote servers. Don't ask. Needless to say, | when you have minicom up, and you're dialled into a BSD box 300 miles away | and you need to change that line *there* and the term settings aren't right, | you end up quickly re-learning ed. Very quickly. And yes, we can talk about This is why they tell us we should all learn our way around vi because it is *always* there, unlike other editors, and it was *designed* for just this kind of environment (slow terminals, odd settings, etc). | back in the world of :wq! all of a sudden. I once tried learning emacs | but didn't get on with it. Maybe one day. I finally took several people's advice. I didn't give up VI, but emacs is amazing for big, complicated jobs. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message