From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 30 13:19:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE48C16A418 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2001:1b20:1:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858B13C4B0 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (dybkve@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l6UDJlAT068638; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:19:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l6UDJkAH068637; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:19:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:19:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200707301319.l6UDJkAH068637@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, peterjeremy@optushome.com.au, dennis.melentyev@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070727231905.GJ1152@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:19:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: removing external usb hdd without unmounting causes reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, peterjeremy@optushome.com.au, dennis.melentyev@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:19:54 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > Dennis Melentyev wrote: > > Is there any correct way to initiate funding to rewrite VM/VFS related > > parts (getting non-panicable removable devices)? Who should one > > contact for this? > > I would suggest that the first step is finding someone (or a few > people) with the necessary skills who is/are willing to work on the > problem. Offering funding may increase the potential pool but will > not automatically solve the skills/knowledge issue. By the way, the problem apparently has been solved in DragonFly BSD (i.e. DF BSD does not panic when a mounted FS is physically removed). Maybe it is worth to have a look at what they did to fix it, and possibly port it over to FreeBSD. On the other hand, the internal data structures of the VM subsystem have diverged quite a lot from FreeBSD, so I don't know if it would really help. (No, I'm not volunteering; lack of time and interest.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall