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[70.29.85.38]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s15sm56124809ioe.88.2019.08.01.10.22.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Mark Johnston Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:21:24 -0400 From: Mark Johnston To: Warner Losh Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Ed Maste , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r350505 - in head: contrib/binutils/binutils/doc gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump Message-ID: <20190801172124.GA19051@raichu> References: <201908011442.x71Egfa9047254@repo.freebsd.org> <201908011600.x71G0hri060322@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 45zxtP5Hcmz3xm7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=X1M1pm8K; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markjdb@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=markjdb@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.872,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.73)[ip: (1.95), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.08), asn: 15169(-2.45), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[markj@freebsd.org,markjdb@gmail.com]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[markj@freebsd.org,markjdb@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:22:06 -0000 On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 11:22:46AM -0500, Warner Losh wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 11:00 AM Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > Author: emaste > > > Date: Thu Aug 1 14:42:41 2019 > > > New Revision: 350505 > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/350505 > > > > > > Log: > > > objdump: be explicit that GNU objdump that will be removed > > > > > > We may install llvm-objdump as objdump (see review D18307) or just > > > provide no /usr/bin/objdump, but either way GNU objdump won't be > > > installed in the future. > > > > > > MFC after: 3 days > > > > Can we get a RELNOTES entry for this please? > > > > Great idea. What's the protocol the project wants here? It seems to me that > we'd want a world where either the original committer or folks shepherding > the release notes out the door when the time comes could commit entries to > the file. We should encourage the OC to do it, but have the culture that we > can be relaxed about others doing it too so we have low friction around > this file. This is basically how UPDATING works. It's reasonable to reply to a commit mail and ask the committer to consider adding a RELNOTES entry, perhaps proposing some text. And if the committer doesn't follow up, there's no problem with just going ahead and committing the new entry. That said, I would think that an actual removal of GNU objdump would be the commit that deserves a RELNOTES entry, not this one.