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Date:      Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:14:13 +0100
From:      Jona Joachim <walkingshadow@grummel.net>
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Torrent Server
Message-ID:  <20070201151413.43706ae3@localhost>
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On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:02:02 -0800
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeremy Faulkner" <gldisater@gmail.com>
> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
> Cc: "Eric Hildebrandt" <hildebeb@mts.net>;
> <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007
> 1:34 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Torrent Server
> 
> 
> > On 1/31/07, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > FreeBSD isn't commercial software, there's no need to go through
> > > all the hocus pocus to conceal the uploader so the RIAA doesen't
> > > sue him.  Standard FTP works perfectly fine at any of the mirror
> > > sites, and you will get your ISO no slower.
> > >
> > > Ted
> >
> > Bittorrent does nothing to conceal the uploader's identity.
> >
> > The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of Amarica) doesn't give a
> > damn about the piracy of commercial software, the RIAA cares about
> > the piracy of music distributed by their member companies.
> > <opinion>The RIAA exists to be the bully for their member companies
> > and to draw the negative public relations away from those member
> > companies.</opinion>
> >
> 
> Which is exactly why I cannot understand why anyone would want to
> use bittorrent to legitimately distribute anything.  Why use a
> service that the RIAA is actively attacking, because such service is
> being used to illegally distribute pirated music?
> 
> It's called guilt by association.
> 
> For the same reason I would be very dismayed if a large porno site
> like playboy.com, hustler.com, etc. put a bunch of banners on their
> website offering free downloads of FreeBSD.  Those porno sites are
> being used for the perfectly legal distribution of images legally
> obtained, by willing participants, all above board, monitored, and
> such.  From a technical perspecitve, the porno sites have some of the
> best bandwidth available. You could make a dozen freedom of speech,
> etc. arguments about how it would be a great thing if those sites
> started distributing FreeBSD.
> 
> But, it would be nothing more than a public relations disaster.
> 
> Sure, bittorrent can be used to legally distribute software.  So can
> porno sites.
> But,  with all the number of willing FTP mirrors out there, who are
> engaged in
> noncontroversial businesses, is it really necessary to deal with
> bittorrent?

<snip>

Illegal music and software was downloaded from FTP servers long before
BitTorrent existed.
I don't think anybody here cares about what the RIAA is saying.
BitTorrent is used to reduce the traffic on FreeBSD mirrors.
You have the right to stop trolling until the Analogy Police comes for
you.

Jona

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