From owner-cvs-all Fri Jun 16 19:31:18 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from darren2.lnk.telstra.net (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BEA37B53F; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by darren2.lnk.telstra.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id CAA13451; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 02:28:20 GMT From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200006170228.MAA14959@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket. In-Reply-To: <200006162017.VAA02121@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> from Brian Somers at "Jun 16, 0 09:17:07 pm" To: brian@Awfulhak.org (Brian Somers) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:28:09 +1000 (EST) Cc: billf@chc-chimes.com, brian@Awfulhak.org, wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, alfred@FreeBSD.org, nate@yogotech.com, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL37 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In some email I received from Brian Somers, sie wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > > > If natd had been written in the kernel (which no-one would have objected > > > > > to), you would have the exact above scenario. > > > > > > > > I would have, strenuously. > > > > > > Is there a big difference between natd and ipnat ? Or do you object > > > to ipnat ? > > > > I was going to mention that, but I don't use ipfilter and hadn't looked > > to see how application specific ipnat gets. > > I'm no expert with ipnat either - it may be ``cleaner'' than libalias > in that it may avoid protocol-specific knowledge (I think you need a > plug-in to do active ftp properly for example, and all the other > protocols have to be done via a proxy), but then you can argue that > NATing is a disgusting hak anyway.... It sure is :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message