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Date:      Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:34:16 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To:        John Howie <JHowie@msn.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4
Message-ID:  <20001004223416.A32669@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <038b01c02cb2$1b5092c0$fd01a8c0@pacbell.net>; from JHowie@msn.com on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:48:23PM -0700
References:  <23683.970516562@critter> <038b01c02cb2$1b5092c0$fd01a8c0@pacbell.net>

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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:48:23PM -0700, John Howie wrote:
> 
> > Until you do you're asking me to waste my spare time because you
> > cannot be bothered to upgrade your system to recent releases.
> 
> It is not easy to install, configure, and administer and the problem
> is compounded by having to rebuild half of /usr/local in some
> circumstances.

Well, FreeBSD is way easier for me to install than some other OSes, I
have to admit.  Having to rebuild part of my /usr/local is a bit of
pain, since my home machine is not what I would call `state o' the art',
but I prefer a clean, well-defined, upgrade procedure, than the usual
Windows way of format-and-reinstall-everything.

> Maybe if we looked at supporting past releases we could win some
> fans in the business community.

So true.  There are people who are not upgrading to the latest -stable
because they think that their 3.x installations are more stable.  Then
there are those who administer dozens of 3.x installations and want lots
of time to upgrade them all.  Then those who were waiting for 4.1 to
become -stable and *then* start planning their upgrades.

I could not agree more with the above statement.  Recent threads in
-current show that support for older releases should not be dropped the
first few days, weeks or months that a new -stable is released.

> Don't be surprised if FreeBSD doesn't take over the world because we
> don't support users running past releases.

It's all a matter of what you define as 'take over the world', but this
is another topic.  And I'm already way off-topic regarding the original
post, while posting this reply.  I just wanted to add my humble vote in
the `we as in "the people who are actively using older releases" should
spare some of our time in supporting those few that still run older
releases.'  I am nothing but a 4-stable user at the moment, but when I
can help people with 3.x installations, I know I still do my best to
help them :-)

-- 
Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr >


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