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Date:      Fri, 22 Apr 2016 15:15:52 +0300
From:      Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg>
To:        Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
Cc:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <68F587ED-6755-4E40-88B0-E90EAA79B0A4@digsys.bg>
In-Reply-To: <201604190210.u3J2AHef003299@xt.digsys.bg>
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> On 19.04.2016 =D0=B3., at 5:01, Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Honestly, some of us are wondering what exactly is
> behind some of these concerns regarding base packages.
>=20

Not taking a side on this discussion, yet=E2=80=A6 but the first thing =
that occurred to me is that such way of packaging is traditional for the =
Linux =E2=80=9Cdistributions=E2=80=9D. I could imagine people worrying =
at subconscious level that FreeBSD is going the Linux way=E2=80=A6 and =
that if they wanted such a model, they would be using Linux instead. =
Today, people have more choice in packaging =E2=80=94 but if FreeBSD =
goes the Linux way, someone else will fill the void =E2=80=94 so no =
worries in general.

I can see the support nightmare that a packaged base would bring, but as =
always =E2=80=94 this is not enough to judge it. The benefits might be =
worth it in the long run.

I was a long time user of BSD/OS and then switched to FreeBSD when that =
OS was killed. In BSD/OS everything was monolithic. It was rock stable. =
Very dependable and very easy to support. My first few years with =
FreeBSD were spent to get used that the OS was not just one piece, but =
you could end up with different installs.. A bit more support efforts. =
Not that I am complaining :)

As long as packaged base is not mandatory, it is fine by me.

Daniel=



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