From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 22:52:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB0016A4F6 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:52:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31C8D43D3F for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:52:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 4424 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2004 22:52:31 -0000 Received: from batv-01-028.dialup.netins.net (HELO xyz.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.29) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2004 22:52:31 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041012174711.190f7e40@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:51:23 -0500 To: Newton From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <416C3B42.9040501@ig.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:52:35 -0000 At 15:14 10/12/2004, Newton wrote: >Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in=20 >start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My=20 >experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and=20 >Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window maker =20 >and many of them, were only words. My first fear, was erase my HD. I did=20 >it many times, but I knew how to start again or recover. I'm writing=20 >these things, cause in these years using Linux, I saw a big evolution ,=20 >specially the installer. Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware and=20 >another, made a goob job and you can do it , almost without problems.=20 >But, when I tried FreeBSD installer, I remembered Debian, the worst=20 >installer ! Probably another distributions, like Knoppix, Kurumin ,=20 >Gnoppix to name a few, trying to make the life user easiest ! My first=20 >experience with FreeBSD, was 5.0, with a PC Master, brazilian magazine.=20 >After many tries, a XFree86 error, when I typed startx, disappointed me=20 >again and, I forgot it... On the last month, I downloaded the 2 CDs,=20 >5.2.1, and, the same installer, errors, infinite loops... very=20 >disappointing ! I tried many lists, and with some support,to resolve or=20 >not, the problems. Again, I format my system and, here I am, with=20 >Windows (mainly for games and a problematic usb scanner) and Linux. I=20 >need a more stable system. Many people talked me very good about=20 >FreeBSD. For me, until now , the biggest deception ! Please, I don't=20 >know the FreeBSD objectives, but if you would like that more and more=20 >people can use it, CHANGE this installer. Confuse , in one word !=20 >Disappointing ! I tried standard, express, custom , all packages,=20 >minimum, all kind of ways... I can't understand a looped install. Almost=20 >2 hours after, an error... My video card is recognized , but when you=20 >did post-install, not ! You tried many XFrre86 configs and not.... When=20 >something happens and finally you can start KDE or GNOME or another,=20 >DHCP don't run and so on. Please change this installer and trying to=20 >better hardware and network configuration ! Until this, I'll never tried=20 >FreeBSD again ! Sincerely, Newton - Curitiba - Brazil Hi Newton, Definitely the installer (sysinstall) needs to made more user friendly. Since FreeBSD is a volunteer project, anyone can work on a new 'user-friendly' version. How 'bout you? ;^) I had trouble at first installing FreeBSD, but once I put together a procedure list for myself, it doesn't take much time at all: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ I recommend you start from 'scratch' and install it on a=20 blank hard drive. Good luck! Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/