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From: Gary Chrysler <tcg@ime.net>
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Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup
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Chuck Robey wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote:
> 
> > Terry Lambert wrote:
> > >
> >       <chomp>
> > >
> > > Failure modes:
> > >
> > > 1)      Internal modems.  Don't buy them, you can't trust them.
> > >
> >
> > Thats a matter of opinion Terry.
> > I feel:
> >       External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them.
> >       Or the hardware they require.
> 
> Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt
> with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal
> modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used
> troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes).  If you
> don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you
> might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good
> reason behind it.  I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical
> experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree.
>

Interesting, "Those of us" Implies my exclusion.

You sure seem to know an awefull lot about something you know
nothing about!

> There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and
> seeing results with your eyes.

Neither one is any good if you don't know how to use them.

-Enjoy
Gary
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