From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 22:12:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355A816A4D2 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58343D41 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 32372 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2005 22:12:33 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Apr 2005 22:12:33 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.15] (osx.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3PMBvg0027487; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:12:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no> References: <20050413210855.GA15088@bitsurf.net> <200504131714.20356.jkim@niksun.com> <86fyxt1ovu.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050415005850.GB80903@dragon.NUXI.org> <2fd864e050414180911e4e5be@mail.gmail.com> <20050415211600.GA1473@dragon.NUXI.org> <1113603823.91832.7.camel@cream.xbsd.org> <2fd864e050415174048dc579d@mail.gmail.com> <346a802205041519071e4dc609@mail.gmail.com> <4260D654.3060301@mail.uni-mainz.de> <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <26eed6fd4518c4ec43b35a6ad77ef075@FreeBSD.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: John Baldwin Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:06:09 -0400 To: des@des.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: "O. Hartmann" cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:34 -0000 On Apr 16, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > "O. Hartmann" writes: >> My question si: how to force nVidia delivering the needed >> informations? It should be an aspect of customer demand. nVidia >> earns money with each sold nForce based motherboard and each GForce >> based graphics card and the better the support, the more they can >> sell. > > Why would they care about FreeBSD users? Unlike Linux, FreeBSD has > approximately zero brainshare in the computer press, and unlike > FreeBSD, Linux runs perfectly well on nForce chipsets. In fact, the > Asus SK8N which David loathes is "Linux-certified". If I didn't > already know that FreeBSD is perfect and flawless and that David is > the Christ reborn, I'd be tempted to conclude that there is something > wrong with FreeBSD (or David), not with the nForce chipset. The problem is that FreeBSD tries to still use IRQ 0 and use mixed=20 mode. Both Linux and Windows use the lapic timer instead of IRQ 0=20 which 6.0 now does. We just weren't being Windowsy enough, and almost=20= all BIOS writers, etc. use "boots on Windows" as their QA test. --=20 John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =3D http://www.FreeBSD.org=