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Date:      Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:58:34 -0700
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <jdc@koitsu.org>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>, svn-src-stable-9@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r248352 - in stable/9: etc share/mk
Message-ID:  <20130405055834.GA97433@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20130402213534.GA86221@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
References:  <201303152132.r2FLWfwx076672@svn.freebsd.org> <201303200918.08803.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130402175903.GA85393@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <201304021550.43701.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130402213534.GA86221@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>

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On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:35:34PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:50:43PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:59:03 pm Brooks Davis wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:18:08AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:06:31 pm Brooks Davis wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 09:49:47PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   Replace all known uses of ln in the build process with appropriate
> > > > > > > > >   install -l invocations via new INSTALL_LINK and INSTALL_SYMLINK
> > > > > > > > >   variables.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It seems this merge breaks ``make distribution'' and hence mergemaster if your 
> > > > > > > > base system is not updated yet (for example, while updating jail):
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding.  I missed this yesterday.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It works for me on a older 9.0-STABLE system where the base install
> > > > > > > doesn't support -l.  Did you build world or run "make toolchain" in that
> > > > > > > source tree to build the bootstrap copy of install?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, this is after full ``make buildworld buildkernel'' process.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've found the problem thanks to misc/177055.  It is that mergemaster
> > > > > (and etcupdate) set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX to something in their
> > > > > temporary directory and thus deprive themselves of bootstrap tools.
> > > > > Unfortunately, I don't see a trivial fix so I've backed this out for
> > > > > now and will work on this in HEAD.
> > > > 
> > > > Hummmm.  In the case of etcupdate you can use 'etcupdate -B'.  That is actually safe
> > > > to do in the common case where you've just updated /usr/src and built the corresponding
> > > > world in /usr/obj.  It should possibly even by the default for etcupdate if a DESTDIR
> > > > is not specified.
> > > 
> > > Finally getting back to this...
> > > 
> > > etcupdate -B would correct the immediate problem for etcupdate.  I do
> > > think that making it the default if the tree exists makes sense.  It
> > > won't be more broken than a cross installworld is.
> > 
> > Hmmm, checking for the obj tree is a bit hackish.  I'd rather it were more
> > deterministic.  I think I'd like to make it just default to -B and require
> > a new -b flag to build a new tree, but perhaps have it check for a tree
> > and error out if it doesn't exist and you don't give it -b?
> 
> Just switching the default seems fine in practice.  I guess it would
> probably be useful to keep an option to enable the old behavior.
> 
> > > I did a quick test when I first found this issue and it would be easy to
> > > reuse the existing MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in mergemaster as well.
> > > 
> > > I think we'll want to update UPDATING to recommend that the
> > > mergemaster -p stage (and the equivalent for etcupdate) be run using the
> > > version in the source tree, not the installed one.  I do wonder if it
> > > would make sense for them to attempt to find and invoke that version so
> > > simplify bootstrapping.
> > 
> > Currently etcupdate doesn't implement something like -p.  I need to add that as
> > I would prefer to use its conflict resolution for adding users.  (That would
> > also let it serve as a full replacement for mergemaster for those who prefer it.)
> 
> OK, I'll look at switching the default behavior in mergemaster and
> adding an option to revert to the old behavior.
> 
> I'll also change UPDATING to suggest using the mergemaster.sh from the
> source tree for mergemaster -p.

Please be sure to update the relevant comments in src/Makefile too
(see roughly lines 59 onward).

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