From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 11:09:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5820FBB for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 11:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C387A2 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 11:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2013 11:08:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2013 11:08:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2013 11:08:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1369307338; bh=/dyOf56SzLztNrcQF7gMEg3zIREm8MNQGmPLzT8EtX0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:CC:Subject; b=iOwSvdmPWSfpT7y9CQJSEJBBy43vxKm9rC/PyBsx7FebRgH1+l0d33Ur/sbH28yPLGgyDSwMUnGoCGRtmBDLZFITOxzSxEqita3/wnEKiKb1a6NykwikymanIhUZ5OIBAhQzhBvGr6tC2Hj1PPguGdJL7fhKC5yrf8X9xiLfybk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 807189.9206.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <807189.9206.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 11:08:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: MchKmXwVM1kuu4kvPmLIaIIjGIisXK8e7fJLip.JQcmoYLq fmTd_hUcepYV_n1CKFZOlsXfFgAtIYf.4eDxlvFm9GclxbGch2VolTl0O2XZ AenCTWVoLqDjqCQfmcD7EP2WYVbUduw1p7jGNouL68VcxjBJjGkkuuhBLvp. W9r8HFrrp28mZaqQ6BMqp90Oe8dFaXMYi_fIveuTp_b1jNbTJBAEktAAHChg yRd.FM3Nr9DrpTkwMr0YAaye1VLU9BGeNgaJtvxdZQELh_SC3FR9fYELZvJN sAeHhGhCsr8wjgGVjW8__feQeYjmSENd4JnSeNiox5p8UfRSfvF6eEGfLTRv lWH4OOogmpFvy5qVy2HawTAD6ZJxAhJ72xwpDh4xgw_AHQ1y1vIvKftcgkUU jAOaNnXsncFO2syughV7DVefwMoUNaJfVVeYQJ85zZJ_8U.AoeE2JT9KOxVv AzFpUn.FJxT_MCpKZhnLlp_gQWSFgbOcJKXee0Lr3IjSRhkeRbQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@74.130.198.7 with plain) by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2013 11:08:58 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default? Cc: Baptiste Daroussin X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 11:09:04 -0000 > A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping > up all the time. > What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there > is a changed option but only when the user explicitly type make config? > Just a proposal, please give your opinion. > Of course make config-recursive behaviour won't change. > regards, > Bapt The new dialog4ports has made the dialog much less disruptive than before, especially when teeing to a log file. So now I don't dread the dialog as I used to. But it would still be good to be able to set options through make.conf, comparable to what pkgsrc (NetBSD and ported to other mostly Unix-like OSes) and portage (Gentoo Linux) do. I have noticed how DOCS with docbook can be very cumbersome and overdone, how many different formats do we need? And hopefully docbook wouldn't have to be rebuilt every time for different ports that might require it. Tom