Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:01:07 -0500 From: Tim Kellers <timothyk@wallnet.com> To: "Darren" <backdoc@crotchett.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailman on freebsd Message-ID: <200201030601.g03614Y01885@serv1.wallnet.com> In-Reply-To: <09a401c19353$331271e0$6401a8c0@crotchett.com> References: <20011231020417.G94813-100000@serv1.wallnet.com> <09a401c19353$331271e0$6401a8c0@crotchett.com>
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Ok, I think I've got you covered....
Your mailman cgi-bin entries should look like this:
Scriptalias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/"<Directory
your mailman Directory entry should look like this:
<Directory "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/">
AllowOverride None
Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
(along with the entry for pipermail)
Your httpd.conf leaves out the quotation marks (" ")
(Congratulations, i made this same mistake, too) :-)
Insert the quotation marks and run (as root):
/usr/local/sbin/apachectl graceful
Then, assuming you've configured the "test" list:
http://www.crochet.com/mailman/listinfo
and you should see an intro screen
You can compare it to mine at:
http://dl1.njit.edu/mailman/listinfo
Also be sure to add the alias entries that mailman generates when you create
a new mailing list (newlist command ) to your /etc/mail/aliases (or
mailaliases file --whatever you have it named) then, again as root run the
newaliases command to create the aliases.db entry, kill and restart sendmail.
Mailman generates the alias entry for you during the newlist command, but
doesn't install it anywhere or perform any of the sendmail maintenance steps.
Before you kill sendmail, look at /var/run/sendmail.pid. That file not only
tells you what PID that sendmail is running under, but gives you the flages
to restart sendmail -- tpically /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m.
Hope this does the trick for you, let me know how you make out.
Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 01:03 am, you wrote:
> Tim,
>
> I am just now getting to the GID errors that you warned me about. The
> warnings were:
>
> <snip> Mailman CGI error!!!
> The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by
> the Web server.
>
> The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed
> incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close
> attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being
> stored in your syslog:
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65533, GOT gid 80. (Reconfigure to take
> 80?)
> </snip>
>
> /etc/group showed 65533 belonged to nogroup and (as you might expect) 80
> belonged www. Looking at httpd.conf, I confirmed that apache was running
> as group www. I didn't really want to tinker with the Makefile and
> reinstall mailman. So, the way that I fixed my Mailman CGI error was to
> change apache to run as user nobody and group nogroup. My questions are,
> "is this a security risk"? And, "how likely is it that this will this
> break other things"? I may be wrong, but IIRC, my last freebsd install of
> apache set the user to nobody and the group to nogroup.
>
> And, while I have your attention, maybe you could find it in your heart to
> clarify one last thing. My mailman install is in "/usr/local/mailman/".
> I don't know how to access my mailman/cgi-bin directory from the web. For
> the purposes of debugging the mailman install, I cheated and accessed my
> mailman scripts by using lynx on the freebsd box itself and typing lynx
> http://localhost/mailman/admin from the command line. That's how I got the
> error message above. Based on all of the directives in httpd.conf, I would
> have thought that I could access my mailman/cgi-bin directory via
> www.crotchet.com/admin. Obviously, I'm not understanding it just right.
> See the relevant parts of my httpd.conf below.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> Darren
>
> ServerName www.crotchett.com
> DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www/htdocs/"
> <Directory />
> Options FollowSymLinks
> AllowOverride None
> </Directory>
> <Directory "/usr/local/www/htdocs">
> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
> AllowOverride AuthConfig
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin/"
> <Directory "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin">
> AllowOverride None
> Options None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
> <Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/>
> AllowOverride None
> Options ExecCGI
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
> Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Kellers" <timothyk@serv1.wallnet.com>
> To: "Darren" <backdoc@crotchett.com>
> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: mailman on freebsd
>
> > I've been down this same road before. As a matter of fact, I even went
> > to the length of adding a user mailman (in /usr/home) to try and get it
> > to work.
> >
> > Turns out, though, the porter was right.
> >
> > a user "mailman" with a shell and a real home directory isn't necessary
> > under FreeBSD (it was/is necessary under solaris 8).
> >
> > The docs stress that the most important thing is the crontab.in file and
> > it's proper croning. That is true and it's fairly simple with (as root):
> >
> > crontab -u mailman -l crontab.in
> >
> > The next most important thing in the latest cvsupped mailman port is a
> > thorough reading of the Makefile. If you don't change the GID of mailman
> > to something that both FreeBSD and mailman are expecting (gid 26, i
> > think but that's from memory), the web-interface complains bitterly about
> > not getting the gid it expects.
> >
> > Also be sure that your apache www user (used to be nobody/nogroup, but
> > now it's www/www) also agrees with what mailman is expecting --again, I
> > think it's in the Makefile.
> >
> > I use mailman at work to spam , er e-mail, as many as 4000 students and
> > faculty at a time, and I love it's interface and it's reliability. And I
> > was (and still am, on some machines) a big fan of majordomo.
> >
> > Tim Kellers
> > CPE/NJIT
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Darren wrote:
> > > I am setting up my first list server on FreeBSD. I used the
>
> ports/packages
>
> > > to install Mailman. Following the setup directions on the Mailman
>
> website
>
> > > has raised a couple of questions.
> > >
> > > The first question is in regards to the warning in the documentation to
>
> not
>
> > > be root while running ./configure. I suppose that is so that the files
>
> are
>
> > > owned by a regular user. Since I didn't have to run configure, and
>
> since I
>
> > > was root when I installed the Mailman from the ports or pkgs (I don't
>
> recall
>
> > > which), I was concerned that I might need to change the owners of all
> > > of
>
> the
>
> > > files in the mailman directory from root to mailman. Should I chown -R
> > > mailman /usr/local/mailman? Apparently, other distributions put
> > > mailman
>
> in
>
> > > /home.
> > >
> > > At this point in the install, permissions are supposed to be checked
>
> (with
>
> > > /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f) as the user who installed
>
> Mailman.
>
> > > They checked out OK as root. But, here is where I realized that I
> > > could
>
> not
>
> > > su to mailman. I do have a user mailman that the ports set up for me.
>
> But,
>
> > > the shell is /sbin/nologin. I tried changing that to another shell and
> > > giving mailman a password. But, that still didn't help. I still get
>
> the
>
> > > message, "This account is currently not available".
> > >
> > > Not being able to su to mailman looks like it is going to be a problem
>
> when
>
> > > I get to the crontab step.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Darren
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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